Thursday Forum: June 5, 2014

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  1. A Lurker

    Oooo, an unvarnished thread. I should say something witty.

    Witty, there, I’ve said it – oh, and I hope podium?

  2. Token

    I look with wonder at the Conrovian splender of this new thread…

  3. Steve of Glasshouse

    mmm..sushi for lunch

  4. C.L.

    I agree with Alan Jones that Chris Kenny should re-sue and take all of them to the cleaners.

  5. A Lurker

    From the previous thread…

    I’d prefer Barnaby, if the backbench Liberals could get over themselves.

    I’d prefer him too – a decent man, says what he means and means what he says, and in language understandable to the average Aussie. He saved a life too.

  6. Token

    I agree with Alan Jones that Chris Kenny should re-sue and take all of them to the cleaners.

    He should be able to continue his existing actions, add the Chaser’s company, Andrew Hansen &SBS to the list.

    It is an investment with a guaranteed return.

  7. C.L.

    Marion and James Peet celebrate their platinum (70th) wedding anniversary.

  8. Gab

    Where was Malcolm Turnbull for the past five weeks trying to “sell” the budget? It’s only been this week that he actually makes mention of the budget and only becuase he’s being challenged about it.

  9. Carpe Jugulum

    Top Twenty – wooo hooo

  10. Infidel Tiger

    FORMER NSW Labor MP Eddie Obeid has scoffed at ICAC’s finding that he and Joe Tripodi were corrupt over lucrative retail leases in Circular Quay, saying he believes there’s a one per cent chance he will face prosecution.

    He’s right you know.

  11. Woolfe

    We are all winners at the IPA

  12. Gab

    70 years married! That is just so wonderful. They don’t make them like that anymore 🙁

    The smitten couple used to send each other love notes in Morse code while they worked on the World War II Enigma project in 1942.

    Gorgeous.

  13. calli

    Eddie will walk with a smirk all over his ugly dial. I’m still amazed that O’barrell wasn’t imprisoned over that bottle of wine.

  14. Rabz

    Where was Malcolm Turnbull for the past five weeks trying to “sell” the budget?

    Even Squire Turnbull knows there’s no market for glittered turds.

    Oh, wait

  15. johanna

    I’d prefer Barnaby, if the backbench Liberals could get over themselves.

    Barnaby would be an excellent Minister in almost any portfolio, except one with access to infrastructure funding from taxpayers, or trade policy. He has a bit of an agrarian socialist/protectionist blind spot.

    Other than that, he has an excellent BS detector, and is an ornament to the Coalition.

    But because of that, he would be a lousy and divisive PM.

  16. stackja

    Eddie got his go from Bob.

  17. Aussiepundit

    I agree with Alan Jones that Chris Kenny should re-sue and take all of them to the cleaners.

    SBS and the Chaser have nullified any victory he had, effectively turning it into a loss.
    I hope he does it.

  18. Gab

    Blair reports the Mayor of Parkes is very upset the taxpayer-funded scientists will soon leave. And why is he so upset about it?:

    Our local music and drama society has probably got some of the best sound and lighting set ups of any in Australia because we have had those technicians to be able to put it all together,” he said.

  19. calli

    Waters and Mason…all in all they’re just another brick in the wall.

    I shall have to dust off my Stones albums…

  20. Fibro

    ABC News tonight:

    Repeating the Chaser Hamster image? 100%
    Throwing over to Morrow and Co’s twitter? 100%

    Coverage of ICAC findings against Obeid and Co? 6 seconds
    Coverage of Jones/Turnbull? 6 minutes

    No, of course the ABC is not biased.

  21. Token

    I’d prefer Barnaby, if the backbench Liberals could get over themselves.

    I think there is something to Latham’s idea that the taming of Barnaby has given space and oxygen for Professor SkyWhale and his un-thinking automons.

  22. twostix

    ‘Stones tells anti-Semetic Pink Floyd to get fucked:

    I like the way the SMH spruiks the BDS “movement” while forgetting to mention that one of Australia’s leading BDS academics is being prosecuted under the SMH’s beloved “race hate law”…S18C.

  23. OK hammy – I’ll pay you that one, but that’s because I’m a nice person.

  24. Infidel Tiger

    The Stones are not only going on with the show, scheduled for Thursday morning Australia time, but the group has also agreed to delay their opening by 45 minutes to allow devout Jews time to reach the concert after the end of the Jewish holiday of Shavuot, during which Orthodox Jews cannot drive, handle money — or press “Play” on Exile on Main Street.

    Fuck Pink Floyd. Shit music, shit people.

  25. I agree with Alan Jones that Chris Kenny should re-sue and take all of them to the cleaners.

    SBS and the Chaser have nullified any victory he had, effectively turning it into a loss.
    I hope he does it.

    I find that with these things, what goes around very often comes around.

    In the not too distant future, the notably humourless Chaser ‘boys’ will find themselves on the receiving end of a lampoon that will skewer them particularly painfully. They will immediately rush off to the courts, but they will lose.

    You have been warned.

  26. johanna

    Token, history tells us that around 10% of the electorate (boosted by a higher percentage in Queensland) will vote for any crook, clown or idiot who pretends to be an “anti-politician.”

    That’s not a reason to endorse any of it.

  27. Gab

    I agree with Alan Jones that Chris Kenny should re-sue and take all of them to the cleaners.

    No point as it’s the taxpayer that ends up funding it all. Now if Kenny could sue the Chaser children and Mark Scott personally, that would be a different matter. That would hurt them in the hip pocket. As it stands, both Chaser and Scott have an unending supply of funds via the taxpayer.

  28. hammy

    OK hammy – I’ll pay you that one, but that’s because I’m a nice person.

    You have no say in the matter, Pip. First is first, whether you say so or not.

  29. twostix

    Anti-boycott Israelis say their appearance is especially significant because in 2010 the Pixies joined the Klaxons and Gorillaz Sound System

    Yes. Their twenty remaining fans in Israel were devastated and global geopolitical doctrine had to be re-written in response to the Klaxons not playing.

  30. Andore Jr.

    the Conrovian splender of this new thread

    No doubt he will be running with this gag again during today’s question time… to be honest it’s starting to get a bit cringe-worthy

  31. .

    The smitten couple used to send each other love notes in Morse code while they worked on the World War II Enigma project in 1942.

    James Peet would rightfully be convicted under sexual harassment laws which protect women these days from rape culture. Why do you conservatives want to go back to the 1950s anyway? This is a good and proper law. Agitating for it’s removal is clearly cultural Marxism! Libertarians and their fascist ways always are so transparent, it is like clockwork and reveals their inner Communist allegiance.

    Joe Goodacre was right. We have no reason to complain about this. Either we move to Nigeria or we convert the whole country to non mainline Christianity and then we can think about civil rights!

    If James Peet had any honour, he’d issue a statement renouncing the vilification of Islam which lead to the tragic accident that happened to Lee Rigby, condemn the Catholic church for the famine in Ireland in 1942 and write a letter to his children advising them they are children of rape (as are any children with a father) and he asks for forgiveness but can never truly be sorry until he is dead and forgotten.

    Britain is going to hell in a hand-basket.

  32. incoherent rambler

    Refining my view.
    Given the minister responsible admits he has no control over the ABC and SBS.

    Not without precedent the Attorney General and/or the Justice Minister can have their departments initiate civil action on behalf of the people of Australia.

    So,
    Ministers we beseech you,
    We the descendants of Western European culture who with religious fervour are beholden to the principles of the enlightenment, are offended by the inaccuracies, degradation and vilification of our cultural/religious beliefs that has been broadcast and published by the ABC and SBS.

    Thank you for your assistance in prosecuting (under secion 18C) this matter on our behalf.

    yours

  33. nic

    the Pixies joined the Klaxons and Gorillaz Sound System

    I thought for a minute it was a Palestinian complaint regarding punitive crowd dispersal measures used by the Isrealis.

  34. dover_beach

    He should be able to continue his existing actions, add the Chaser’s company, Andrew Hansen &SBS to the list.

    If I were the judge I would fine them each, and have them also clean the toilets of LNP/LDP/FF state and federal parliamentary offices until they retire at the age of 70.

  35. calli

    Good heavens, Dot! Did someone put a couple of extra lumps in your tea? 🙂

  36. egg_

    You have no say in the matter, Pip. First is first, whether you say so or not.

    “The Hamster Decides’?
    Pipped by the Hamster, again.

  37. Baldrick

    Not sure if this was posted on the old fred but it’s worth a listen:
    2GB – Alan Jones and Malcolm Turnbull interview this morning.

  38. egg_

    I find that with these things, what goes around very often comes around.

    From anther fred, they’ve effectively been replaced by The Roast on Aunty and The Feed on SBS, and of course, there’s always tired ol’ Micallef.

    ‘The Checkout’ being their latest offering before they finally check out?

  39. Haven’t heard it, but Turncoat’s response suggest that the Liberal charade is starting to come apart at the seams.

  40. Steve D

    There’s no reason the Minister for Communications should be responsible for the ABC. Separate the management of the hardware from the management of the content. Assuming we don’t just shut it down and fire them all.

  41. egg_

    Haven’t heard it, but Turncoat’s response suggest that the Liberal charade is starting to come apart at the seams.

    Re Wontongate – a case of Mal being on an errand from Tony, but using it to his own advantage?

  42. Rabz

    “The Hamster Hammburglar Decides”

    Your ALPBC brings you a wacky new comedy extravaganza where Australia’s much loved Peoples’ Plenipotentiary conducts mock show trials of various Enemies of the State, including both current and historical figures.

    Rated G.

  43. Max

    ‘Stones tells anti-Semetic Pink Floyd to get fucked:

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/pink-floyd-hits-out-at-rolling-stones-for-playing-in-israel-20140605-zrxzr.html

    Pink Floyd are right. Israel has 400 nukes with targets all over the world, Rome, all the cities in Europe, many cities throughout Russia and the USA. No discussion of Israeli geopolitics is complete without consideration of the “Sampson Option” Israel plans to Nuke the world

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Samson_Option

    Holding a Nuclear gun to humanities head and then complain when Pink Floyd wont play there, F#cking arrogance ??

  44. Grigory M

    I’m in the hippy, happy, hot 100.

    (I see you-know-who hamming it up at No. 1 again)

  45. Infidel Tiger

    Max, firstly you are a but of nutter.

    Secondly, Israel couldn’t give fat rodent’s ring gear whether Pink Floyd play there or not.

  46. Baldrick

    Malcolm Turnbull has pulled out of four appearances on the ABC’s flagship radio and TV current affairs shows in the month since the federal budget, and some of the Communications Minister’s allies are privately blaming the Prime Minister’s office for intervening to stop his apperances (sic) . However, some Turnbull supporters have told Fairfax Media that Mr Abbott’s office had played a part in stopping the appearances by the cabinet minister.

    ‘Supporters’ of Lord Wentworth? Are there any, apart from himself?

  47. Infidel Tiger

    Not sure if this was posted on the old fred but it’s worth a listen:
    2GB – Alan Jones and Malcolm Turnbull interview this morning.

    I can’t think of anything worse than listening to those two pompous bloviating cocks.

    The ABC costs us a billion a year.

    Jones has cost us tens of billions every year with his anti-CSG junk science populism.

  48. Robert Blair

    calli:

    Pink Floyd stopped being Pink Floyd when Syd Barret died. What you see now is the dried up old zombie husk of Pink Floyd.

    As for the Stones – it is possible to measure a modern musicians worth by simply measuring the amount the amount of attention they pay to Bob Dylan.

    On that measure the Stones rate very highly indeed.

    For your viewing pleasure, this mashup of “Sympathy for the Devil” by the Neptunes is pretty awesome: Sympathy for the Devil

  49. Tom

    ‘Supporters’ of Lord Wentworth? Are there any, apart from himself?

    Peta Credlin is also from the Liberal Socialist Greenfilth faction — and she used to be Lord Wentworth’s chief of staff.

    BTW, Alan Jones slaughtered his lordship this morning — because AJ prepares for such interview2s with hours of research.

  50. TonyOrlando

    Heh – while I never confuse blocking comment on privately owned blogs with free speech, I can also respectfully point out if your ideas were so solid you wouldn’t feel the need to protect them.

    Also I have a sneaking suspicion that my comment about second-raters who wouldn’t be able to make it without a hand up may have touched a sore spot in more than one quarter….

    [You remind me too much of trolls that we’ve had to ban in the past. Sinc]

  51. Tom

    Israel plans to Nuke the world

    A bit of a nutter, IT??? FMD.

    It’s a matt-haired lesbian from the Fitzroy Wholefoods Co-op branch of Hamas.

  52. Delta A

    Barnaby having great fun in QT.

  53. johanna

    Robert Blair (a fine Scottish name, BTW) – the last decent Floyd album was “Animals” in 1977. The albums up to then were of uneven quality, but there were flashes, sometimes lasting for long periods, of real brilliance.

    I saw them perform in the mid 80s. The production values were possibly the best I have ever seen and heard, but the content, other than the pre 1978 stuff, was boring, overblown rubbish.

    It is a mystery to me why anyone still cares about what they do.

  54. Ren Hoek

    Max, shine on you crazy diamond.

  55. Max

    Read the books Tom

    Seymour Hersh is an incredibly well regarded and credible journalist

  56. .

    Infidel Tiger
    #1334613, posted on June 5, 2014 at 2:03 pm
    Max, firstly you are a bit of nutter.

    Max. Tell us your opinion about Iranian geopolitical theory.

  57. Andrew

    Barnaby just annihilated Tanya in Question Time 🙂

  58. Delta A

    Barnaby again. He’s on fire.

  59. Dr.Sir Fred Lenin

    I am totaly in favour of Chris Kenny sueing scott,the alpbc board ,the middle aged boys,wogtv,and turnballs. Get to the real culprits that filthy perverted sketch was Gross Defamation and did irreprable damage to Chris Kennys reputation.I was typical stupid high school rubbish ,written by middle aged juveniles,not one member of the group had the decency to point out this was unacceptable behavior.
    Give it to them Chris,wreck their lives all of the useless Grubs.love to see the Bloody lot of them begging at Centrelink Lefturd Mongrels.probably a bunch of Bitchy Poofters.

  60. johanna

    Did you exchange
    A walk on part in the war,
    For a lead role in a cage?

    Pink Floyd, “Wish You Were Here.”

    A self-fulfilling prophesy.

  61. .

    No conspiracy theories here mate – just facts – Israeli politicians have spoken fairly openly about it in the past

    Do you think they were going to nuke Moscow or were they going to nuke New York?

    Blimey. Think who was backing their enemies and how the Americans refused to get involved in Yom Kippur.

  62. Max

    Max. Tell us your opinion about Iranian geopolitical theory.

    They will keep trying to get the bomb and delivery systems and threaten every rational actor in the region. Using Asymmetric warfare and client state actors is probably most likely. So Israel needs to build more fences.

    So they need to be stopped and that is most safely done as early as possible and pre-emptively by the Americans.. But Obama’s weakness has embolden them

  63. Lysander

    Barnaby is gold. #qt

  64. Baldrick

    Where’s the Skywhale today in QT?

  65. Max

    Do you think they were going to nuke Moscow or were they going to nuke New York?

    Blimey. Think who was backing their enemies and how the Americans refused to get involved in Yom Kippur.

    Moscow — but that still probably starts WW3

  66. egg_

    BTW, Alan Jones slaughtered his lordship this morning

    The whole saga’s playing out like a reality TV show of Ruddesque proportions – what Canberra has been reduced to – entertainment for the masses?

    On E-TV tonight:

    Why didn’t Mal read the script as prescribed by AJ?
    Why should he?
    You decide: poll…

  67. .

    TonyOrlando
    #1334624, posted on June 5, 2014 at 2:11 pm
    Heh – while I never confuse blocking comment on privately owned blogs with free speech, I can also respectfully point out if your ideas were so solid you wouldn’t feel the need to protect them.

    Also I have a sneaking suspicion that my comment about second-raters who wouldn’t be able to make it without a hand up may have touched a sore spot in more than one quarter….

    The problem is, champ, that you’re a moron.

    Your legal opinion is shit. You make shit about about economic stats and protest “it’s in a spreadsheet at home”. You then whinge other people can’t use Excel, even after you don’t cite your data source.

    You have nothing to offer us. I don’t expect you’d win pre selection as an ALP candidate for local elections.

  68. JC

    Read the books Tom

    Seymour Hersh is an incredibly well regarded and credible journalist

    No he isn’t , Hersh is a lying sack of shit caught out years ago making stuff up about the Bush666 administration. You dishonest fucking moron.

  69. Max

    You dishonest fucking moron.

    Why does Israel have 100’s of nukes if it doesn’t have 100’s of targets ?

  70. Token

    [You remind me too much of trolls that we’ve had to ban in the past. Sinc]

    Quite so.

    At least the previous visit_s_ has taught it that this is a private blog.

  71. .

    Max

    So they were the good guys like us and the US, fighting the USSR.

    The muppets saying they threatened to nuke America to get their own way are just fucking unhinged. Some fringe MP says some whacko shit? Happens all the time. The PM of Israel would not ring up the White House and threaten nuclear war.

    America hearing that threat may in minutes do what the Arabs have failed to do for 66 years.

  72. Lysander

    The problem is, champ, that you’re a moron.

    Your legal opinion is shit. You make shit about about economic stats and protest “it’s in a spreadsheet at home”. You then whinge other people can’t use Excel, even after you don’t cite your data source.

    You have nothing to offer us. I don’t expect you’d win pre selection as an ALP candidate for local elections.

    Yup; ALP accept losers.

  73. johanna

    Baldrick
    #1334655, posted on June 5, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    Where’s the Skywhale today in QT?

    Well, yesterday he couldn’t be there because he had to “have lunch” in Brisbane.

    Who knows where this one-man locust plague is having lunch today?

    So what. He gets paid whether he turns up or not, without valid excuse. Thanks, taxpayers!

  74. Tom

    LOL. Seymour Hersh published the Sampson Option in 1991 — two years after Reagan’s term effectively ended the Cold War and the same year the Soviet Union was disbanded.

  75. Infidel Tiger

    Truss gave Katter a lovely touch up when he thanked him for showing up to to parliament finally.

  76. TonyOrlando1

    [You remind me too much of trolls that we’ve had to ban in the past. Sinc]

    Given a troll here is anyone to the left of Genghis Khan, that doesn’t say much.
    Still your site, your choice. One only hopes that the new marketplace in tertiary education you seem so excited by, will see RMIT students get academics that spend their hours either teaching or serious research, not monitoring a low grade blog.
    The most overpaid forum moderator in the entire public service!

    PS – no I am not expecting it to be published – I would just hate you not to see it.

  77. Robert Blair

    Johanna:

    Robert Blair (a fine Scottish name, BTW)

    Och, aye, thankee lassie! Curiously, all my great-grandparents, bar one (a Swedish sailor who fell from grace with the sea, in Brisbane, in 1983) were Scots.

    But I just want make it all too concise and too clear,
    Whilst you are here,

    I meant what I said about Dylan measuring worth – and as your parents had the good sense to name you after one Dylan’s best songs, you too must be very worthy: Visions of Johanna

  78. .

    Max
    #1334667, posted on June 5, 2014 at 2:38 pm
    You dishonest fucking moron.

    Why does Israel have 100?s of nukes if it doesn’t have 100?s of targets ?

    Flexible response, third strike capability, tactical and nuclear targets, bunkerised hard targets…

    Israel has fought wars with Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Egypt and proxy wars with Libya, Iran in Palestine and Lebanon.

    I’m questioning your reasoning behind why you think they might only have 50 or so targets.

    One nuke is enough to make blackmail possible. They don’t need hundreds for that. They do for a two front war with multiple enemies and varied targets.

  79. Max

    The PM of Israel would not ring up the White House and threaten nuclear war.

    During the Yom Kippur war in Mid October 1973 Israel had put its Jericho missiles fitted with nuclear warheads, on high alert. The Israelis had done so in an easily detectible way, probably to sway the Americans into the air lift of supplies.

  80. hoppers

    Viewing habits:
    Morning: Sky News for about a half hour
    Evening: Sky News PVO (grr) then Richo (grrrrrr) or whatever, then a bit of lifestyle channel or similar then Masterchef or MKR depending on the season, maybe a bit of TLC if it’s not one of their bloody tattoo programmes or Natgeo or similar.

    What’s this ABC thing you lot keep going on about? Sounds kinda nasty.

  81. Baldrick

    Thanks johanna … he’s keeping a low-profile since his attack on Credlin. If it’s at all possible a Skywhale could keep a low-profile.

  82. calli

    Robert Blair…thanks. Their work just doesn’t age (even if they’re more Strolling Bones these days).

    Johanna, I remember when Dark Side of the Moon was first released and my pals used to play it in an endless loop… The only song I remember with any affection is Learning to Fly (from a later album, if memory serves). And I’m a Prog Rock fan…[runs]

  83. Fisky

    Turnbull’s strategy for winning the leadership is to crack stupid jokes containing the word “Conrovian” and to piss off the entire backbench by defending the government’s enemies. He’s a weird guy.

  84. .

    Max
    #1334687, posted on June 5, 2014 at 2:48 pm
    The PM of Israel would not ring up the White House and threaten nuclear war.

    During the Yom Kippur war in Mid October 1973 Israel had put its Jericho missiles fitted with nuclear warheads, on high alert. The Israelis had done so in an easily detectible way, probably to sway the Americans into the air lift of supplies.

    How the fuck does that equate to threatening to nuke Naples, Paris or New York?!

  85. Ubique

    I knew Vidkun Quisling’s twin Martin Hamilton-Smith was under seige in Adelaide, but didn’t realise it had got so serious the cops had to be called in this morning.

  86. nic

    Lol, Lord Wentworth ‘silenced’:

    (SMH) Malcolm muted: PM ‘silencing Turnbull’

  87. val majkus

    FORMER NSW Labor powerbrokers Eddie Obeid and Joe Tripodi has been found to be corrupt over the nondisclosure of the ownership of cafes at Circular Quay and attempts to renew the leases without a tender.

    The Independent Commission Against Corruption found that Mr Obeid misused his position as a member of parliament to lobby ministers and public servants on several occasions over the leases for the cafes, which he and his family secretly owned. It recommended that the Director of Public Prosecutions consider charges of misconduct in public office against him.

    ICAC: Statement on findings of corrupt conduct

    Mr Tripodi was found to be corrupt for not disclosing to his cabinet colleagues his knowledge of Mr Obeid ownership of the leases, knowing that Cabinet’s endorsement of changes to commercial lease policy would benefit Mr Obeid. No criminal charges were recommended against him.

  88. Max

    http://articles.latimes.com/2002/apr/07/opinion/op-perlmutter

    Israel has been building nuclear weapons for 30 years. The Jews understand what passive and powerless acceptance of doom has meant for them in the past, and they have ensured against it. Masada was not an example to follow–it hurt the Romans not a whit, but Sampson in Gaza? With an H-bomb? What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens?

    For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away–unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans–have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?

  89. Max

    How the fuck does that equate to threatening to nuke Naples, Paris or New York?!

    I know its the Guardian but consider where the quote is coming from

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/sep/21/israelandthepalestinians.bookextracts

    Martin van Creveld, professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

    We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: “Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.” I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.’

  90. Ubique

    ‘Supporters’ of Lord Wentworth? Are there any, apart from himself?

    Lord Wentworth has plenty of avid supporters, it’s just that the vast bulk of them will never vote for him while he’s in the Liberal Party.

  91. Infidel Tiger

    He’s a weird guy.

    He’s the sort of guy that is feeling unwell and in need of some soup, so he goes to an upmarket restaurant with a coterie of the nation’s top public servants and an obese dinosaur and boat enthusiast.

  92. Tom

    Leftism mental illness update: capitalism caused the Tiananmen Square massacre.

  93. Andrew

    Bandt moving to suspend standing orders….lol

  94. daggers

    That Jones interview this morning is astonishing. He is incandescently hostile at times. I’ve never heard Jones before and am impressed.

  95. OK hammy – I’ll pay you that one, but that’s because I’m a nice person.

    You have no say in the matter, Pip. First is first, whether you say so or not.

    Poor old hammy; you’re quite right. I should cut you some slack.

    Hey – when are we seeing that selfie again as your gravatar? It was very helpful to put a face to the name. Is it Rod Mead or Ron Mead? can’t remember.

  96. harrys on the boat

    Who is this fucking Max clown? Is it Birdy?

  97. Ren Hoek

    What about the protocols of Sodastream masterminded by that Russian spy the Black Widow?

  98. Infidel Tiger

    That Jones interview this morning is astonishing. He is incandescently hostile at times.

    You should hear the way he speaks to his drycleaner and butler!

  99. Grigory M

    The only song I remember with any affection is Learning to Fly (from a later album, if memory serves)

    calli – it’s hard to imagine you having A Momentary Lapse of Reason. 😉

  100. Baldrick

    Tom
    #1334706, posted on June 5, 2014 at 2:59 pm
    Leftism mental illness update: capitalism caused the Tiananmen Square massacre.

    … and it of course comes from their ABC with the heading: China’s shift towards capitalism creates inequality and anger. FMD!

  101. Token

    FORMER NSW Labor powerbrokers Eddie Obeid and Joe Tripodi has been found to be corrupt over the nondisclosure of the ownership of cafes at Circular Quay and attempts to renew the leases without a tender.

    So , how many charges will be laid from this latest document from ICAC?

    The Obeid’s are sitting in the mansion in Hunters Hill laughing.

    Reality is that ICAC showed that they are a toothless tiger when they took out O’Farrell for no good reason.

  102. Infidel Tiger

    Bandt moving to suspend standing orders….lol

    What for?

  103. Tekweni

    Do we now have a conspiracy theory troll? Must be a X files or UFO blog he could hang around on.

  104. Shelley

    Scott Morrison also performing up to par as usual.

  105. Pyrmonter

    What the …?

    Nicola Roxon – she of the plain packaging, campaigning A-G, heading the accountants ethical standards board

    http://www.apesb.org.au/attachments/MR_APESB_IncomingChair_Final.pdf

  106. Token

    That Jones interview this morning is astonishing. He is incandescently hostile at times.

    It was not one of his better interviews. Starting off by lecturing and dictating undermined his message.

    By providing a laundry list of faults of the ABC, and no follow up when Lord Wentworth went to the tired & predictable defense, was a big fail. He should’ve done Lord Wentworth slowly over his cowardly endorsements of the ABC.

  107. Max

    Who is this fucking Max clown? Is it Birdy?

    Nup – read the links, get the books, its all there in their own words. not a conspiracy website involved.

  108. A Lurker

    On behalf of all Conservative Queenslanders (and despite not voting at any time for any of the following) I’d like to Apologise for my State inflicting Rudd, Swan, Palmer, Katter and Slipper on the rest of the nation.

    I’d like to assure Australia that most, some, a few of, perhaps one or two of the rest are relatively normal.

  109. Andrew

    What for?

    Because he didn’t get the answer he was wanting in regards to the Nats/Libs fuel tax story

  110. twostix

    Turnbull is getting beaten like a red-headed step child by Bolt and now Jones, and so he’s going all out thinking that the five or six ABC and Fairfax loyalist Liberal party members that exist are actually an army will come to his rescue. Apparently he really believes what the leftist fluffers are saying to him.

    It’s King Canute style craziness, he’s honestly a worse politician than Stephen Conroy.

  111. johanna

    IT, as someone who inhabited the Sydney CBD near Lord Wentworth’s office in the late 80s – early 90s, let’s just just say it is probably not the first time he told his wife one thing and did another.

    Johanna, I remember when Dark Side of the Moon was first released and my pals used to play it in an endless loop… The only song I remember with any affection is Learning to Fly (from a later album, if memory serves). And I’m a Prog Rock fan…[runs]

    Calli, when you explain what “prog rock” means, perhaps we can discuss it. I am forgiving of almost any musical taste, except for trad jazz and large slabs of rap.

    Dark Side was a pretty good album, but to me it was nowhere near as good as many of the less popular offerings. It was sort of muzak for that generation.

    Tuned in to the second half of QT, and there were some fine direct hits, especially Scott Morrison’s memorable reminder. He pointed out that in addition to there being no boats for 24 weeks, it was 100 days since the Shadow Minister for Immigration had asked him a question about it.

    Zap! Powee! Right in the gonads. The Shadow Minister’s discomfort was impossible to miss.

  112. Gab

    Who is this fucking Max clown? Is it Birdy?

    Only if he’s had a lobotomy.

  113. Baldrick

    Four Burmese refugees have avoided convictions after being caught with dead koalas and possums in their car in South Australia.

    In the rear of the vehicle police found two dead adult koalas and a baby koala, along with 14 dead ringtail possums. The animals had no fur and were charred. The group’s lawyer told the court the four were unaware they were committing an offence, as in refugee camps in Thailand the hunting of animals to supplement the diet was commonplace. The magistrate expressed confidence the offence arose from a cultural misunderstanding and that the group would not reoffend.

    The hunting of animals in Thailand, to supplement their diet, may have been commonplace, but it is commonplace in Australia to pay refugees welfare so they don’t have to supplement their diet with native animals.

  114. harrys on the boat

    Pink Floyd are shit. When I was doing A-Levels Pink Floyd was for the stoner wankers who couldn’t handle acid or afford ecstacy.

  115. jumpnmcar

    ” cultural misunderstanding ” IS the best defence.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-05/cultural-misunderstanding-blamed-for-dead-koalas-and-possums-fo/5503036

    Would it work as well in Burma ?
    Maybe not

  116. Infidel Tiger

    It’s very hard to lisyen to Shorten in Fauxrage Mode. His high inflection and Christian Bruvvers accent goes into over drive.

  117. Mr Rusty

    China’s shift towards capitalism creates inequality and anger.

    Unlike China’s shift towards Communism which created piles and piles of famine-ravaged corpses.

  118. A Lurker

    ” cultural misunderstanding ” IS the best defence.

    Cultural misunderstanding my foot. They’re kept in detention for how many weeks or months – surely they are given some education on what they can and can’t do if they are released into the community.

    You know like getting all sexual with little children, and killing and roasting koalas (which are on a threatened species list) and other native animals.

    p.s. The maximum penalty for killing a koala in Australia is a $300,000 fine, or two years imprisonment.

  119. A Lurker

    p.s. Cue outrage from The Greens in 5…4…3…2….1

    *crickets*

  120. Tom

    IT, as someone who inhabited the Sydney CBD near Lord Wentworth’s office in the late 80s – early 90s, let’s just just say it is probably not the first time he told his wife one thing and did another.

    How dare you leave us hanging like that, Johanna! The full Cat exclusive — now!!!

  121. Kaboom

    Ignorance of the Law is no a great excuse!

    Go forth and prosper!

  122. Meanwhile, in a textbook case of “progressive” projection, Bill Shorten accuses the government’s ministers of being ventriloquists’ dummies. It is Bill Shorten who has Joe Ludwig’s large, controlling fist up his arse.

  123. Zaphod

    Cultural misunderstanding my foot.

    I reckon their first koala taste would be their last.

  124. Kaboom

    Besides, Koalas taste really gamy, with an overlay of eucalyptus extrusion. You really have to gut them thoroughly before cooking.

  125. Token

    China’s shift towards capitalism creates inequality and anger.

    Unlike China’s shift towards Communism which created piles and piles of famine-ravaged corpses.

    To a lefty obessed with equity, that is a feature, not a bug.

  126. Max

    Only if he’s had a lobotomy.

    USAF Counterproliferation Center at Maxwell AFB good enough for you?

    http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/cpc-pubs/farr.htm

    or try and get your hands on a copy of this Jane’s Intelligence Review :

    “Israel reviews its nuclear deterrent,” Jane’s Intelligence Review 10, no.11 (November 1998), pgs 11-13.

  127. Infidel Tiger

    ” cultural misunderstanding ” IS the best defence.

    Hey it works for child rape, so eating a few koalas is no biggie.

  128. Token

    I reckon their first koala taste would be their last.

    I think the correct punishment is to get the boys to eat the whole lot in one sitting.

  129. Infidel Tiger

    Max, we are well aware that Israel has nuclear bombs.

    We weren’t aware they were planning on using them against Pink Floyd, but we strongly approve.

  130. nic

    Turnbull is getting beaten like a red-headed step child by Bolt and now Jones, and so he’s going all out thinking that the five or six ABC and Fairfax loyalist Liberal party members that exist are actually an army will come to his rescue. Apparently he really believes what the leftist fluffers are saying to him.

    Yeah, its hard to fathom. Its certainly not winning any friends within the Libs or their supporter base. Unless of course that’s exactly what he wants….

  131. Rabz

    Regarding the culturally misunderstood ruffugees and the regrettably roasted koalas, I believe Clive Hamilton might have an agreeable solution for all parties.

    One approach worthy of serious consideration would be to charge a fee for visitors to Kangaroo Island to hunt koalas.

    This could be a true win-win situation. 🙂

  132. .

    Martin van Creveld, professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

    We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome.

    An academic said something so the government must support it. Hersch has been caught out lying about this stuff before as well.

    You would be best getting shock therapy and forgetting about this Max.

  133. Haven’t heard it, but Turncoat’s response suggest that the Liberal charade is starting to come apart at the seams.

    Re Wontongate – a case of Mal being on an errand from Tony, but using it to his own advantage?

    I just realized that that came out wrong! It of course should have said “but Turncoat’s response suggest that the his Liberal charade is starting to come apart at the seams.”

    Sorry about that, chief!

  134. H B Bear

    Nanny Roxon is the most successful ambulance chasing senior associate ever.

    Wonder what the APESB will do when the Royal Commission gets around to her part in the AWU slush fund cover up?

  135. Tom

    Gunman’s suicide ends South Snowtown siege:

    Ethical Standards are now investigating his death as a death in custody.

    “That is standard procedure, if a prisoner dies in a watch-house or if we’re surrounding a house and someone dies inside, even if we’ve got no direct contact with them, it’s still classed as a death in custody,” a police spokesman said.

  136. .

    How is it custody if they have not yet been arrested?

    What did SA did to that common law definition of arrest?

    I’m sure Joe Goodacre will defend this trivial stupidity the SA government has legislated itself into.

    Because if we complain, we ought to be deported. Free people accept deprivation of liberties and government incompetence.

  137. johanna

    I don’t give a rat’s about them roasting possums and koalas – especially possums, which are a pest that cannot be dealt with here in the ACT thanks to the luvvies.

    People in detention are given intensive courses in “protected” and “endangered “species”? Unicorn poo based fairy dust seems to have descended on some commenters.

    Most indigenous (in the literal sense) Australians wouldn’t know the arcane highways and byways of how nutty enviro-greens have made us liable to going to jail for accidentally or intentionally harming one of their pets. Unless a wind turbine does it, of course. Then it’s OK.

    Where I live, brushtail possums are a pest species by any standard. They invade roofspaces, eat people’s gardens (especially young fruit and veges) and are about as likely to become extinct as cockroaches.

    But they are not allowed to even be moved, let alone exterminated. They are “native”, you see.

    Just like our “native” population (whom, I hasten to add, should not be moved against their will, let alone exterminated) – this addiction of the Left to the ideology of never intervening is very selectively applied. They hate kangaroo culling. An RSPCA operative publicly attacked his boss because rabbit holes were concreted over.

    OTOH, they are mustard on regulating everything from how we treat our pets to how farmers look after their animals. Too much intervention is barely enough.

    While they are welcome to cower in caves, eating roots and berries (h/t Yogi), and not killing either predators or potential food, let them keep it to themselves.

  138. val majkus

    talking about Malcolm, he’s on 7.30 tonight – reported by Bolt via SMH

  139. johanna

    Tom
    #1334755, posted on June 5, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    IT, as someone who inhabited the Sydney CBD near Lord Wentworth’s office in the late 80s – early 90s, let’s just just say it is probably not the first time he told his wife one thing and did another.

    How dare you leave us hanging like that, Johanna! The full Cat exclusive — now!!!

    Ummm – how can I put this?

    I used to work in the State Office Block in Sydney, aka the Black Stump, now sadly demolished.

    Not far away was (funnily enough) the Wentworth Hotel, then one of the best hotels in Sydney. It had a shopping precinct, and escalators which were used by the unwashed.

    Does anyone remember Sir Les Patterson and his gorgeous personal assistants? Let’s just say that it came to mind when I saw a well-known figure and companion on the escalators and heading towards the hotel lifts at lunchtime. More than once.

    Of course, as we know from the movies, a lot of business is conducted in hotel rooms.

  140. Token

    Nanny Roxon is the most successful ambulance chasing senior associate ever.

    She really is the perfect person to dictate on ethical standards.

    In the case of Ashby’s sexual harassment claims against Slipper and the commonwealth, Roxon has worked assiduously from the beginning on simultaneous legal and political strategies.

    Since Ashby first filed his claim in the Federal Court late on the afternoon of Friday, April 20, Roxon has provided a public running commentary on the virtues of Ashby’s claims, defended Slipper’s rights vehemently, sought to kill Ashby’s case completely and keep the politically explosive text messages secret. As Attorney-General she has apologised to the Federal Court for favouring Slipper over Ashby during hearings and for giving the appearance the court may not have been impartial.

    This was done knowing Slipper’s own texts displayed such a level of crudity and disrespect for women that his position as Speaker was no longer tenable, and showed exchanges about Asbhy’s sexuality, his sex life and his preference for men, and suggestions and invitations from Slipper, including to a gay bar.

    While a party to the litigation, Roxon and other ministers accused Ashby of “ulterior motives” and political conspiracy to damage Slipper and bring down the “democratically elected government”. Even after the commonwealth folded its case and paid Ashby $50,000 to settle his claim against the government for breach of contract, Roxon continued to describe the claim as “vexatious” and called for the separate case against Slipper to be dropped.

    We can only guess she’ll ensure more accountants like those who signed off on the actual financial results Swan releeased each year, knowing full where they were not true or fair.

  141. Token

    Ummm – how can I put this?

    Lucy Turnbull is a former Lord Mayor of Sydney, so only a fool would believe she is young & naive, but that line she gave at Q&A really sounded like what Hillary would say after another of Bubba’s nights out.

  142. GlendaH

    How did these “refugees” kill all these animals? I would be very surprised if “refugees” were given gun licenses.

  143. Tom

    Because the Fucktard Media Industrial Complex has largely succeeded in turning federal politics into a headless, neverending activist street rally, attention has been diverted from one of the most brazen grabs for power in Victoriastan’s history:

    VICTORIAN Opposition leader Daniel Andrews has vowed he will not accept a compromise strategy of suspending rogue MP Geoff Shaw from parliament, saying only expulsion will suffice.

    Despite warnings from Premier Denis Napthine that Mr Shaw could mount a legal challenge if he was expelled, Mr Andrews today indicated he would push on with plans to move an expulsion motion when parliament resumes on Tuesday.

    Labor wants Mr Shaw expelled from parliament, which would trigger a by-election in his seat of Frankston.

    Dr Napthine says he’s seeking legal advice, reluctant to rush into any sanctions against Mr Shaw for fear the case could end up in the High Court.

    The Australian understands that all options are being investigated by the government, although a temporary suspension through the winter break was being actively considered to stave off a by-election before the November 29 election.

  144. Alfonso

    Israel has 400 nucs and ICBMs? Excellent.
    It means Iran has a vested interest in committing any delusional 12th Imam impersonators in the governing elite to the prophet’s best funny farm.
    The Israelis won’t be doing any more “work shall make you free” stuff.

  145. Tom

    Does anyone remember Sir Les Patterson and his gorgeous personal assistants? Let’s just say that it came to mind when I saw a well-known figure and companion on the escalators and heading towards the hotel lifts at lunchtime. More than once.

    Gold!

    Thank you, Johanna.

    You read about it first at the Cat. Sinc, give Johanna a raise.

  146. Twodogs

    A fair bit of mis- information and/or uninformed comment about what the Americans did to assist Israel during Yom Kipur. The USA extended the full capacity of its strategic inter continental air supply forces – non stop – to provide Israel with the necessary ability to survive with the war fighting equipment, ammunition and all other requirements requested. Without the USA Israel was dead meat… Congress debated the supply of FAE (Concussion Bomb) to Israel but could not risk turning the capital cities of Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon into parking lots and starting WW lll with the Russians.

  147. A Lurker

    Johanna, where I live Koalas aren’t in plentiful supply so I’m happy for them to be protected. Possums on the other hand are quite numerous so yeah – a few going missing here or there isn’t an issue.

    What is the issue is the ‘cultural misunderstanding’ excuse. Surely people kept in detention should be attending classes on how to act appropriately in our culture – but the incidents here and there, not only about roasted koala, but also that Afghani who thought that sexual acts with underage children was no problemo, and other refugees who have been pinged on various sexual assault charges evidently prove that a percentage are placed in the community with only the haziest idea on how to behave in Australia.

  148. .

    I agree Alfonso. Max thinks the Jews are holding the poor Southern Fried Presidents of America to ransom. What utter shit Max has swallowed. I hope he investigates what “second and third strike capability” mean.

  149. calli

    Johanna, I think I would be way out of my depth discussing music with you. I’m like one of those dull art lovers who knows nothing of art but knows what they like.

    As for Prog Rock, I guess it’s a fairly wide genre, but my favourites would have to be Genesis, Yes and Focus, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Jethro Tull, with ELO as a late starter.

    But more often or not, if you passed by my kitchen window, you would hear an orchestra belting out Purcell or Handel or one of their peers. And learning to play the piano is on my bucket list (I have a nice little Kawai bought for the children sitting in the corner and I want to make it feel wanted). /Spacechook

  150. Twodogs

    Israel has 400 nucs and ICBMs? Excellent.
    It means Iran has a vested interest in committing any delusional 12th Imam impersonators in the governing elite to the prophet’s best funny farm.
    The Israelis won’t be doing any more “work shall make you free” stuff.

    Israel has nowhere near 400 nukes (120 best) and no ICBMs. Wishful thinking.

  151. calli

    So…lunchtime trysts at The Elephant’s Urinal. How sweet…and romantic. 🙂

  152. .

    I thought they had about 80-120 tactical nuclear weapons that were submarine launched.

    So they have second strike capability in the least.

  153. Max

    no ICBMs. Wishful thinking.

    Page 36 – Jericho III is an ICBM

    http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/crs/rl30427.pdf

  154. .

    So max do you think they want second and third strike capability or wanted to nuke the West?

    Previously you said you thought they didn’t want to hit NY or the Frogs.

    I presume you’ve accepted the idea they followed a second and third strike doctrine then or otherwise simply have a lower end of estimated weapons for tactical and strategic use in a limited or general war against one or multiple enemies.

  155. Alfonso

    I use the word ICBM loosely…..say over 5000km range and maybe over 10000km according to stratpage.

    Hesitate to use Wiki, however the number is moveable… seems reasonable……”Estimates as to the size of the Israeli nuclear arsenal vary between 75 and 400 nuclear warheads. In 2014, former US president Jimmy Carter stated that Israel has “300 or more” nuclear weapons.[20]

    It is estimated that the Israel nuclear deterrent force has the ability to deliver them by intermediate-range ballistic missile, intercontinental ballistic missile, aircraft, and submarine-launched cruise missile.[2]”

  156. Gab

    let’s just just say it is probably not the first time he told his wife one thing and did another.

    Absolutely!

  157. johanna

    Lurker, lessons about not eating koalas would be near the bottom of my list.

    Anyway, according to the luvvies, they are practically extinct. How did they get them anyway, by climbing up huge gum trees? Whole story sounds suss to me.

    As for possums, eating one is about as significant as a lion taking one from a herd of impala.

  158. egg_

    talking about Malcolm, he’s on 7.30 tonight

    Struth, he IS in KRudd mode…

  159. goatjam

    “As for possums, eating one is about as significant as a lion taking one from a herd of impala.”

    What would a possum be doing in a herd of impala?

  160. Tom

    Damn! Australia has gone from the outright dearest minimum wage in the world to just one of the highest, even though Trades Hall (a.k.a. Fair Work Australia) continues to push it through the roof. What’s another 100,000 jobs disappearing in the Australian black hole?:

    “While today’s increase in the minimum wage may seem modest, applying the 2003 modelling from the now Labor frontbencher Andrew Leigh, it is estimated that today’s decision will cost around 100,000 jobs – principally the jobs of the low skilled. The most vulnerable workers will be the hardest hit by this increase, through job losses and slower employment growth,” said Mr [Aaron] Lane.

    “The minimum wage is only a safety net for those that have already secured employment. Today’s decision will be of little comfort to those unemployed people who will now find it harder to get a job, or those low paid workers whose hours may be cut as a result of today’s decision. Increasing the minimum wage will guarantee lower living standards for those adversely affected.

  161. Gab

    I don’t give a rat’s about them roasting possums and koalas – especially possums,

    They are welcome to come to my place and gather up as many possums as their little red Ford Cortina with one brown panel can carry.

  162. Eddystone

    Ethical Standards are now investigating his death as a death in custody.

    How is it custody if they have not yet been arrested?

    Any death within 24 hours of contact with SAPOL is classified as a “death in custody”. Even an RBT stop counts as contact.

    It’s that “duty of care” bullshit that the progressive left have brought in to screw over anyone who has official contact with the dolebludgers.

  163. .

    Sodium fluoroacetate, folks.

  164. Baldrick

    How did these “refugees” kill all these animals? I would be very surprised if “refugees” were given gun licenses.

    Probably bow hunting. If they’re Burmese refugees from Thailand then sure as eggs they’d be Rohingya Muslims, so the killing of the animals would need to be prepared a la halal style.

  165. Max

    So max do you think they want second and third strike capability or wanted to nuke the West?

    Agree – they want second and third strike capability as a deterrent against and enemy 1st strike… and thats understandable./

    BUT even if Seymour Hersh’s book is a lie, and I never new that, and have been given no references to refute Seymour Hersh’s description of the Samson Option. If they target Russia, and I think they would, that will very likely start WW3 and the end of the world.

    America should have wiped out all Iranian capabilities during the war in Iraq, after-all there was strong evidence that Iran was fighting a proxy war by arming Al-Qaeda in Iraq. Sadly the only missles on Obamas mind were at the Chicago “mans ranch” bar and sauna.

  166. .

    Any death within 24 hours of contact with SAPOL is classified as a “death in custody”. Even an RBT stop counts as contact.

    Mind blowing stupidity. Where is Joe Goodacre to defend this?

  167. Zaphod

    I thought they had about 80-120 tactical nuclear weapons that were submarine launched.

    Perhaps Mordechai Vanunu knows.

  168. Gab

    Israel has 400 nucs and ICBMs?

    I hope they have loads more than that, they probably have. They’ll need it as the world seems intent on annihilating the Jews, for some bizarre confected reason.

  169. .

    BUT even if Seymour Hersh’s book is a lie

    Stop right there.

    There is no need to extrapolate the dishonesty any further.

  170. Eddystone

    Anyway, according to the luvvies, they are practically extinct.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

    They are common in the Adelaide Hills and are starting to encroach on the suburbs.

  171. .

    Zaphod

    What I quote is a reasonable estimate from reliable sources. The higher end of the estimates is not credible.

  172. Max

    There is no need to extrapolate the dishonesty any further.

    give me a link/evidence that he’s a liar and I’ll beleive it

  173. Tiny Dancer

    Dot, as stupid as it seems, I suspect that is the case, more or less, across Australia. It’s another leftard induced attack on institutions and denial of personal responsibility.

  174. Ren Hoek

    I woke up this morning, ABC was still there.
    ABC, this guy, ABC, this guy, ABC, this guy…

  175. Gab

    How can someone be “in custody” when the cops are nowhere near the guy? Do they think cops have a secret transporter or something?

  176. A Lurker

    How did they get them anyway, by climbing up huge gum trees?

    Makeshift spears? Bow and arrows? A slingshot? Or perhaps they pelted them with rocks?

    Whole story sounds suss to me.

    Agreed! Refugees are given taxpayer funded welfare money to buy food so the whole hunting (and gathering) shouldn’t be necessary. Makes me think that they are mailing our welfare money to mum & dad back home in Burma, or to help finance the rest of the village to come out here (perhaps they haven’t been made aware of ‘Morrison’s Lifeboats’).

  177. Tom

    They are welcome to come to my place and gather up as many possums as their little red Ford Cortina with one brown panel can carry.

    Can I come to your next communal acid freakout party? I’ll bring a big block of northern Afghan hash. Nothing but the best for us!

  178. Grigory M

    The Elephant’s Urinal

    I’ve had the odd beer and lunch at the Wentworth – but never heard it referred to as that.

    As for the Black Stump – a difficult demolition – full of asbestos. The 6 storey Premier’s Wing was where Gerry Gleeson ran the NSW Public Sector from during the reign of Neville Wran – I hope they salted and limed the earth after it was knocked down.

  179. .

    The smoking gun. Form the 1st article. It has plenty of links you can follow.

    Hersch is a bullshitter but he was also duped:

    In 1991, Hersh published The Samson Option: Israel’s Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy, which featured a variety of stupendous (and occasionally, contradictory) allegations. To take but a handful: Hersh alleged that, during the 1973 Yom Kippur War, Israel blackmailed the United States into launching a weapons airlift by threatening to deploy its nuclear arsenal against Arab adversaries—a claim that Richard Nixon later said had “no foundation whatsoever.” Hersh also wrote that Israel had targeted cities in the Soviet Union with its nuclear arsenal while simultaneously passing along American nuclear secrets to Moscow.

    The source for this, and much else in the book, was Ari Ben-Menashe, an Israeli con man and “spinner of tangled yarns,” according to Time. Perhaps the most infamous of such yarns was the 1980 meeting Ben-Menashe claims to have witnessed in Paris where then Vice Presidential candidate George H.W. Bush persuaded Iranian leaders to hold American hostages until after the election. Hersh himself would later admit that Ben-Menashe “lies like people breathe.”

  180. Gab

    Can I come to your next communal acid freakout party?

    Sure. Brink Tequila, seems appropriate for the event.

  181. Robert Blair

    Calli:

    As for Prog Rock

    Alan Parsons Project.

    Also, Air are pretty good.

  182. Gab

    Bring … brink? A combine of bring and drink?

  183. .

    Purple Drank?

    Sounds more like New Hamsterdam than Nimbin.

  184. johanna

    calli
    #1334822, posted on June 5, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    Johanna, I think I would be way out of my depth discussing music with you. I’m like one of those dull art lovers who knows nothing of art but knows what they like.

    As for Prog Rock, I guess it’s a fairly wide genre, but my favourites would have to be Genesis, Yes and Focus, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Jethro Tull, with ELO as a late starter.

    But more often or not, if you passed by my kitchen window, you would hear an orchestra belting out Purcell or Handel or one of their peers. And learning to play the piano is on my bucket list (I have a nice little Kawai bought for the children sitting in the corner and I want to make it feel wanted). /Spacechook

    The Yes Album (their first) is one of my all time favourites. “Your Move” is a classic:

    Move me on to any black square
    Use me anytime you want
    Just remember that the goal
    Is for us all to capture all we want
    (Move me on to any black square)

    Don’t surround yourself with yourself
    Move on back two squares
    Send an instant comment to me
    Initial it with loving care

    Getting back to Lord Malcolm, like Clinton (described as “a hard dog to keep on the porch”) he has a wife who he has claimed is much smarter than he is. And Lucy, like Hillary, is certainly not stupid in the academic sense.

    Presumably this is the kind of flattery and charm that stops them from calling the dog control when the pooch disappears from the porch.

    Not that I care. That is between them. But when it enters into political discussion (e.g. Mal’s dinner) and the possibility of lies being told, that is another matter.

  185. Dr.Sir Fred Lenin

    I see O’Beid and Tripodi are guilty of corruption? WELL! Who’da thunk ? Paddy O ‘. beid said” I will spend some of the money I stole to defend my good name” , Tripodi was shattered at being Expelled from de Pardee! “Shit ,wot am I gonna do for a dollar now? im Rooted” It is rumoured O’Beid will be fined $100 ,and receive a 50 year jail sentence ,suspende for 80 years ,and Tripodi wil be let off with a caution.
    I mean where are you going to find a judge that wasnt appointed by the LIARS Pardee?

  186. Anyway, according to the luvvies, they are practically extinct.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

    They are common in the Adelaide Hills and are starting to encroach on the suburbs.

    Are we talking about koalas, Jews, or prog rock bands?

  187. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Max

    (I assume you have named yourself after SS-Gruppenführer und Generalleutnant der Polizei Max Thomas, head of Einsatzkommando C)

    Pink Floyd are right. Israel has 400 nukes with targets all over the world, Rome, all the cities in Europe, many cities throughout Russia and the USA. No discussion of Israeli geopolitics is complete without consideration of the “Sampson Option” Israel plans to Nuke the world

    We have a particularly rabid anti-semitic racist dog here, don’t we? I am betting that his forehead slopes backwards from his eyebrows at a seventy degree angle.

    After all, this barking mad anti-semite apparently believes the armies of teh vatican are poised to overrun Israel.

    That’s high-octane whackjobbery right there.

    Not related to Joe Vialls, are you?

  188. it is estimated that today’s decision will cost around 100,000 jobs – principally the jobs of the low skilled.

    Yep, we start paying the new rate in about a month. The pay rise is about on a par with putting another person on the payroll.
    So I’ve a month to work out which position is to be eliminated to pay for the wage rise.

    Smart work Fair Work dickheads. You’ve cost at least one kid their job here. Waddaya going to say to who it is that gets fired?

  189. Perhaps the lovely lady’s zipper was stuck, and kind Lord Wentworth was going up to her hotel room to help her unstick it. Or did he have his Hermes wallet out at the desk?

    tee hee

    Malcolm strikes me as more of a man-bag man.

  190. calli

    The Eliphant’s Urinal. Must be an ‘in’ builder joke. My father was involved in the construction, and the moment they saw the plans, it was dubbed thus.

  191. Tiny Dancer

    Now, leave me alone while I further work on the very special photoshops of Sinclair Davidson I keep encrypted on the hard drive.

    Before you click on the link it’s just the former resident centrelink fraudster pretending he doesn’t miss the place.

  192. Robert Blair

    Dot:

    Purple Drank?

    It’s relatively harmless if you mix it yourself. You’re gonna need some hard-to-get ingredients, tho – starting with pretty much pure codeine.

    The effect is kinda like morphine, without the initial rush, and a lot more cotton-mouth.

    Keats and Coleridge would be cool with it

  193. Dr.Sir Fred Lenin

    Tripodi sounds like Italian for “Jake the Peg”.am I wromg?

  194. .

    I can’t wait until a Centrelink FIT and the AFP haul his arse away for hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of ill gotten, taxpayer funded gains.

  195. .

    The effect is kinda like morphine, without the initial rush, and a lot more cotton-mouth.

    Dad thought he was flying to Honkers whilst on morphine. Talk about chasing the dragon.

  196. hzhousewife

    Yep, we start paying the new rate in about a month. The pay rise is about on a par with putting another person on the payroll.
    So I’ve a month to work out which position is to be eliminated to pay for the wage rise.

    Smart work Fair Work dickheads. You’ve cost at least one kid their job here. Waddaya going to say to who it is that gets fired?

    We take the same approach, Steve. Last time I cut the five hour shifts down to four hours. The Saturday student is about to leave as she has practicums for the rest of the year so I’ll do Saturdays myself for a while – butter, there goes the housework.

  197. johanna

    Gab
    #1334852, posted on June 5, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    I don’t give a rat’s about them roasting possums and koalas – especially possums,

    They are welcome to come to my place and gather up as many possums as their little red Ford Cortina with one brown panel can carry.

    When they’ve finished, they can come to mine.

    FGS, brushtail possums are a hugely successful species. They thrive in urban areas – go to Hyde Park in the middle of the Sydney CBD and there they are foraging in the bins. Some idiot introduced them to NZ and now they are a noxious species that can be shot on sight.

    But here in the Glorious People’s Democratic Republic of the ACT we can’t even relocate them because it would be traumatic for them. Give me strength.

    Calli and other Prog Rock fans – there are limits. “Air” pretty well summed it up. Must admit that I thought that Peter Gabriel was a complete lightweight until I saw an episode of “Homicide: Life on the Street” about a serial killer. In the closing scenes, where they caught him, they played this.

    Unforgettable. Chilling. Always thought that Gabriel was better than average.

  198. .

    FGS, brushtail possums are a hugely successful species. They thrive in urban areas – go to Hyde Park in the middle of the Sydney CBD and there they are foraging in the bins.

    By christ they walk on their hind legs, beg for shrapnel and smell like piss…

    They also have chips and gravy stuck in their beard and have been wearing the same tracksuit pants for months.

  199. Gab

    They thrive in urban areas – go to Hyde Park in the middle of the Sydney CBD and there they are foraging in the bins.

    Pfft! One held me up and swiped my mobile while on my way around The ‘Tan in Melbourne.

  200. johanna

    Gab
    #1334852, posted on June 5, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    I don’t give a rat’s about them roasting possums and koalas – especially possums,

    They are welcome to come to my place and gather up as many possums as their little red Ford Cortina with one brown panel can carry.

    When they’ve finished, they can come to mine.

    FGS, brushtail possums are a hugely successful species. They thrive in urban areas – go to Hyde Park in the middle of the Sydney CBD and there they are foraging in the bins. Some idiot introduced them to NZ and now they are a noxious species that can be shot on sight.

    But here in the Glorious People’s Democratic Republic of the ACT we can’t even relocate them because it would be traumatic for them. Give me strength.

    Calli and other Prog Rock fans – there are limits. “Air” pretty well summed it up. Must admit that I thought that Peter Gabriel was a complete lightweight until I saw an episode of “Homicide: Life on the Street” about a serial killer. In the closing scenes, where they caught him, they played this.

    Unforgettable. Chilling.

  201. kae

    Relocate possums?

    Hilarious.

    Friend in Injune had a possum in his roof. He relocated it.

    The locals laughed at him. “The possum will be back at your place before you get home,” they said.

  202. calli

    I have some lovely ‘mink’ gloves from NZ, and a delightfully soft and warm scarf made from the same exotic beastie.

    Brushtail possums do have some redeeming features.

  203. Aristogeiton

    johanna
    #1334942, posted on June 5, 2014 at 5:55 pm
    […]
    Calli and other Prog Rock fans – there are limits. “Air” pretty well summed it up. Must admit that I thought that Peter Gabriel was a complete lightweight until I saw an episode of “Homicide: Life on the Street” about a serial killer. In the closing scenes, where they caught him, they played this.

    A discussion of pop music? This is for you, Rabz.

  204. johanna

    Sorry about double post. Anything is possible here, whether intended or not.

  205. .

    Possum farms, porpoise recipes, low cost, tax exempt tobacco supplies…the Catallaxy Files blog run by Prof. Sinclair Davidson and started by the esteemed Jason Soon is a gift which keeps on giving.

    May long it prosper and offend the sensibilities of those who wish to use the state to impose their utopia on the rest of us.

  206. calli

    Can you cook porpoise in a Thermomix? Tinta will know.

  207. kae

    Of course you can cook porpoise in a Thermomix.

    It’s an all porpoise appliance.

  208. .

    http://www.godecookery.com/mtrans/mtrans19.htm

    Puddyng of purpaysse

    PERIOD: England, 15th century | SOURCE: Harleian MS 279 | CLASS: Authentic

    DESCRIPTION: Stuffed porpoise stomach

    GODE COOKERY TRANSLATION (of recipe):

    Pudding of porpoise. Take the Blood of him, & the grease of him self, & Oatmeal, & Salt, & Pepper, & Ginger, & mix these together well, & then put this in the Gut of the porpoise, & then let it boil easily, & not hard, a good while; & then take him up, & broil him a little, & then serve forth.

    INGREDIENTS:

    Porpoise blood
    Porpoise grease
    Oatmeal
    Salt
    Pepper
    Ginger
    One porpoise stomach

    DIRECTIONS:

    Combine the porpoise blood, porpoise grease, and oatmeal, & season it with salt, pepper, & ginger. This should be a thick & moist stuffing-like mixture. Stuff the porpoise stomach about half full with this, as the stuffing will swell during cooking.. Sew up the stomach tightly or secure each end with string, & prick it all over with a large needle to avoid bursting. Put an upturned plate in the base of a pot of boiling water, stand the stomach on this and bring back to the boil; boil steadily for 3 to 4 hours. Cook until done; remove from water and drain well. Place in a broiler and cook for several minutes on both sides to slightly crisp the skin, then serve.

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    This recipe is essentially a porpoise haggis, as it uses all the elements found in the traditional Scottich haggis of a boiled sheep stomach with an oatmeal stuffing.

    If for some reason you are unable to find a porpoise stomach, you might try a sheep stomach, still used today when making haggis (nah, we want the porpoise thanks). Alternatively, you may do the “American” version of making haggis, which leaves out the stomach entirely and has the mixture baked in a loaf pan.

    Also, you may substitute a little white wine for the porpoise blood and butter or suet for the porpoise grease (nah, we don’t want to do that). Vegetable shortening may be also be used for the porpoise grease; the original recipe was probably intended for Lent and porpoise grease would have been an acceptable animal fat to use at that time (rightly so). Vegetable shortening will probably be the closest and easiest alternative to fish grease if you wish to keep this a Lenten dish.

  209. calli

    It’s an all porpoise appliance.

    😛

  210. calli

    Which reminds me…Leigh Lowe…you are sorely missed.

  211. Slayer of Memes

    VICTORIAN Opposition leader Daniel Andrews has vowed he will not accept a compromise strategy of suspending rogue MP Geoff Shaw from parliament, saying only expulsion will suffice.

    Despite warnings from Premier Denis Napthine that Mr Shaw could mount a legal challenge if he was expelled, Mr Andrews today indicated he would push on with plans to move an expulsion motion when parliament resumes on Tuesday.

    Meanwhile the same Mr Andrews has insisted that the proper processes need to be followed before he expels the CFMEU from Labor (again… remember also that Mr Andrews was the one who brought them back in) after the CFMEU admitted one of its organisers had acted corruptly to gain access to worksites…

    OPPOSITION Leader Daniel Andrews has been challenged to show leadership and either support the CFMEU or sever the union’s relationship with the Victorian Labor Party.

    Planning Minister Matthew Guy made the call after a senior CFMEU organiser has resigned after claims he received kickbacks in exchange for access to multimillion-dollar building contracts, the construction union has confirmed.

    Mr Andrews, whose Socialist Left faction welcomed the CFMEU back into its ranks last year, said he would deal with the ramifications “once the facts are established”.

    “One rule me for me, another for thee”, eh Mr Andrews?

    Hypocrite.

  212. kae

    I couldn’t let it go.

    And I make apology for that.

  213. Grigory M

    It’s an all porpoise appliance.

    Ha – seal of approval for that one, kae.

  214. Infidel Tiger

    They thrive in urban areas – go to Hyde Park in the middle of the Sydney CBD and there they are foraging in the bins.

    As many Cat regulars will know, I once chased squirrels through the Fitzroy Gardens. Some other Cat regulars and since banned commentators took me to task and claimed they were actually possums.

    I still maintain they were squirrels, but I haven’t been able to relocate the colony or get that drunk again.

  215. kae

    I dunno, IT.

    That level of inebriation could be something to aim for under the past RGR and current regimes. 😉

  216. Ren Hoek

    Codeine?
    Drokk.
    You juves belong in an isocube.
    Get a job.

  217. Tekweni

    Just had a Reachtel poll on the Qld budget. That’s a first for me. Enjoyed pressing 5 for rating the ALP leader.

  218. nic

    As many Cat regulars will know, I once chased squirrels through the Fitzroy Gardens

    A bit of tail is a bit of tail I spose

  219. johanna

    Andrew Bolt hates possums too – they eat his tulips.

    Possums are quite possibly Left-Wing agitators. That’s certainly how I feel about them when the suckers have eaten my new plant shoots, crapped in the birdbath and had a rave party on my roof.

  220. nic

    Friend in Injune had a possum in his roof. He relocated it.

    Perhaps the furry scamp was ‘relocated’ to possum heaven?

  221. calli

    Rave party? My lot do Riverdance…in hobnailed boots.

    And they even eat the red hot chillies straight off the bush…sturdy little buggers. My beautiful fig tree can be full of fruit one day…chomped the next.

    I hates those possumses…

  222. Friend in Injune had a possum in his roof. He relocated it.
    Perhaps the furry scamp was ‘relocated’ to possum heaven?

    They won’t come back from there.

  223. Steve of Glasshouse

    For all of you footy tragics, Catch of the Day has team pillow plush toys; WTF is the Essendon one?

  224. Baldrick

    Let’s see how the Libs handle this one:

    A fresh controversy is brewing over the use of factory ships in Australian waters, with a plan to bring in a 4400-tonne east European-owned ship. Meridian 1 would fish for blue grenadier in the Southern Ocean off Tasmania at a time of opposition to the use of foreign charter factory-freezer ships in local waters.
    Meridian 1 has been fishing in New Zealand, and a proposal to bring it to Australia is being developed by Tasmania’s Petuna Seafoods, and New Zealand’s Sealord, according to the Australian Marine Conservation Society.

    My guess – first they’ll support it, then once the greenfilth start screaming, they’ll back down and won’t allow it into Australian waters.

  225. .

    Please fish for blue grenadier. I can’t get enough.

    Some idiot from the greens will chime in how happy I will be with coffee enemas and an organic, fairtrade wheat bran diet.

    They can go to hell.

    Australian fisheries are very well managed and largely nowhere near the capacity they can handle.

    These stupid, misanthropic pricks want people to eat like an 8th century peasant.

    They can go to hell.

  226. Delta A

    Koalas really are a problem on Kangaroo Island. Many were relocated to the Island to protect them from diseases rife on the mainland. But in places they have really taken over. Now the Boffins-in-Charge (BiC) have come up with all sorts of ideas to reduce the koala population and the stress they are inflicting on the native vegetation.

    Apparently koalas have a personal space requirement about the size of a football field. They don’t like being crowded out. So the BiC employ youths to shimmy up the trees and catch koalas to dispatch off for sterilization (of the koalas, not the youths.)

    The local farmers have developed their own control programs. It has something to do with lead-poisoned koalas dropping without explanation from the trees. Very curious.

  227. Infidel Tiger

    They should export the little fellas to Asia. I reckon they’d fetch at least $25,000 a piece.

  228. C.L.

    Jerusalem: Recently the two surviving founders of Pink Floyd sent the rock band equivalent of a diplomatic cable – an open letter published in Salon – to the Rolling Stones. They asked Mick Jagger and his crew to cancel their first-ever concert in Israel to demonstrate solidarity with the Palestinian people and their struggle against occupation.

    But Pink Floyd hit a wall.

    The Stones are not only going on with the show, scheduled for Thursday morning Australia time, but the group has also agreed to delay their opening by 45 minutes to allow devout Jews time to reach the concert after the end of the Jewish holiday of Shavuot, during which Orthodox Jews cannot drive, handle money — or press “Play” on Exile on Main Street.

    Thanks, Jupes.

    Confirming what I’ve always said: Pink Floyd are total crap.

    Anybody who supports BDS, who supports “Palestine” is an anti-semite.

    Pink Floyd back the extermination of the Jews.

    It’s that simple.

  229. C.L.

    Was that black velvet Julie Bishop wore today in QT?

    Grrrr!

  230. .

    Sometimes I feel the BDS folk need to live in Palestine to understand how the Palis are suffering under Hamas etc., not because Israel won’t sit back and cop artillery fire.

    No reasonable person with kids would see Tomorrow’s Pioneers and conclude the place was being run by normal people.

  231. johanna

    Perzackly, IT.

    These dumb little evolutionary dead-ends are fascinating to foreigners, like pandas, which have similar characteristics.

    So, we should be selling neutered individuals, and perhaps sperm and females, to the highest bidder.

    Does anyone seriously think that tourists won’t come to Australia because there are koalas in their local zoo?

  232. Delta A

    IT, you are so right. And not even export solely to Asia. I met a local during a walk through Mount Macedon. He said their koalas had pretty much disappeared. Kangaroo Island’s koalas are thriving to pest proportions. How about a sensible relocation? It would have to be cheaper than sending a human monkey up a tree and then sterilisation (of the koala, not… well, we’ve already done this bit.)

  233. C.L.

    The theme of Labor’s QT today was RUMOURS.

    Ahahahahaha.

    Did a Senior Labor Figure come up with this?

  234. C.L.

    Holy Toledo.

    Scott Morrison stopped just short of braining the ALP frontbench with a cricket bat today.

    When he approaches the Dispatch Box they all wet their pants.

  235. Gab

    Possums are quite possibly Left-Wing agitators

    No doubt about it. They come onto my property uninvited, crap everywhere, snarl at me when I tell them to shoo (or throw misdirected tennis balls at them), eat the monstero delicio plant and then go running along the roof to jump, Matrix fashion, onto the umbrella tree. Bastardos!

  236. Gab

    Nobody does contests like the Italians. Nobody.

  237. jumpnmcar

    I wonder the cost of a Spermaceti bath nowadays.
    I only ask for ITs sake as it’s magnificent moisturiser.

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