Thursday Forum: June 5, 2014

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  1. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Dot:

    Puddyng of purpaysse

    You are a fiery-panted lying liar who lies, Dot!

    I got the contract for The Palmer of Clive’s, (gourmand extraordinaire) mid afternoon snack, and “purpaysse” is translated as ‘full grown mature Blue Whale’.

    He has two. With chips.

    (it’s a bit of a bugger getting all the blood and blubber mixed, right, but)

  2. jumpnmcar

    Damnation!!
    Last comment on previous page is almost never seen.
    Oh well, that’s the way it goes……

  3. eb

    As a denizen of the Democratic Socialist People’s Republic of the ACT we have had two possums re-located. We rang up a pest control guy who left a trap on the roof with an apple as bait. First night we got a furry beastie. The pest control guy took the beastie away and re-located it somewhere. Three nights later we got the second one. They have been used for greyhound training as far as I know.

  4. calli

    I looked, Jump.

    But I wish I hadn’t. :)

  5. C.L.

    Those Italian ladies show the way for women in public life.

  6. Grigory M

    The theme of Labor’s QT today was RUMOURS.

    Totally trumped by a virtuoso performance by Barnaby on the subject of rumours.

  7. .

    Clive said the Killer Whale Haggis was an entree.

  8. C.L.

    A well-dressed Hugh Jackman …

    Nice to see patent leather and laces back in fashion.

  9. Gab

    Funny thing, CL, I stumbled upon those ladies due to a search query in youtube for “Scott Morrison” and filtered ‘today’. Didn’t find any video of Morrison for his performance in QT today, but.

  10. calli

    Sooo…you Googled Morrison and got…Bunga Bunga?

    Not vroooooooom?

  11. Zaphod

    Totally trumped by a virtuoso performance by Barnaby on the subject of rumours.

    Hopefully, Bolt and Jones were listening.

  12. candy

    Nice shoes indeed.
    Hugh Jackman is always such a gentleman. Lovely wife, too.

  13. Token

    Barnaby is the only person who can make me laugh when reading ag stats

  14. Gab

    Good find, Token! Thanks.

  15. Gab

    Yes it does look like velvet, CL but could be a deep dark blue. In any case, JBish looked stunning.

  16. Token

    Morrison is from the 45min mark

  17. candy

    In any case, JBish looked stunning.

    Gorgeous today. The Labor ladies don’t come close to her style, and fitness and trimness.

  18. jumpnmcar

    I literally clapped when Barnaby was asked a question today.
    And I was driving the ute at the time.
    He never disappoints.
    A ” Barnabys greatest hits ” CD is on my Xmas list.

  19. Gab

    She runs everyday, Candy and has been doing so for years. That’s bound to keep one in shape.

  20. candy

    She runs everyday, Candy and has been doing so for years. That’s bound to keep one in shape.

    Yep. And an excellent Foreign Minister too, and not a whinger, a real team player. An excellent “role model for women”, if we can speak in those kind of terms without sounding silly.

  21. Token

    I literally clapped when Barnaby was asked a question today.
    And I was driving the ute at the time.
    He never disappoints.

    It was great how he noted how afraid the “Front Bench full of failed Immigration Ministers” are of him. Morrison & Turnbull got telling digs in about that as well.

    It is interesting that the Liar’s Party empty suits only way to deal with the talent in the government is to not provide them any air time.

  22. calli

    It’s velvet, black stockings and boots. And a lovely, chunky silver necklace. She’s very stylish…and classy.

  23. Gab

    LOL Just watching Morrison whip the Labor curs on border control. I swear I thought he was going to say “You f**kwits” at the end when he said “You failures!”

  24. C.L.

    Julie’s cut her hair, too – as I recommended a while back.

    She looked incredible in QT today.

  25. candy

    Julie’s cut her hair, too – as I recommended a while back.

    You did, C.L., and her new do has made her perkier and prettier.

    Let us know when you have more recommendations for other ladies in Parliament! :)

  26. Token

    Nice to see that the Member for “at least we’ve got Indi” gets to a lot of quality time where she can really discuss women’s issues with her buddy the SkyWhale for Fairfax.

  27. Token

    Good to hear that Bolt/Price are noting how senior and serious terrorists are the 5 Talibans traded for the deserter.

  28. Gab

    Let us know when you have more recommendations for other ladies in Parliament! :)

    lol reminds me of the very first time I commented here, Candy. I’d been reading the blog for a bit and thoroughly enjoyed the discourse and banter back then, which was of a more serious nature, peppered with wit and comedic commentary. Then to my comeplete surprise, Sinclair linked to red carpet fashions and the fellahs here jumped in giving their expert opinions, proffering remedial measures for the fashion unconscious on the carpet. Nothing smarmy, mind, except for sfb’s comments. Natch.

    Ah, the good old days where nearly every open forum was a thread of doom argument over some historical incident and/or figure … Campion, Fractional reserve, Campion, Keelhaul, Marines v soldiers, WTC…

  29. Ripper

    I literally clapped when Barnaby was asked a question today.
    And I was driving the ute at the time.
    He never disappoints.
    A ” Barnabys greatest hits ” CD is on my Xmas list.

    Yet the ABC managed to twist it by omitting half of his answers.

    Watch the Video

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-05/labor-says-nationals-played-like-a-banjo-by-liberals/5503408

    Read Hansard
    http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;db=CHAMBER;id=chamber%2Fhansardr%2F1b09bdff-83b9-4530-a94e-a7856b753e0b%2F0110;query=Id%3A%22chamber%2Fhansardr%2F1b09bdff-83b9-4530-a94e-a7856b753e0b%2F0000%22

    Sack them all!

  30. candy

    Then to my comeplete surprise, Sinclair linked to red carpet fashions and the fellahs here jumped in giving their expert opinions, proffering remedial measures for the fashion unconscious on the carpet

    Yes, it’s great when blokes give their opinions of fashion and hairstyles (and remedial measures), isn’t it.
    It’s always fascinating what they like and don’t like.

    .. the old days of sfb, the conservative Catholic …

  31. Peter from SA

    Vid: David Lloyd George giving a speech in 1932

    Yes Gab we know you’re very clever … but no need to apologise for the Italian girlz? after all, anything is high-brow art these days?

  32. Baldrick

    According to the Silly Moaning Hearld-
    Attacks on Malcolm Turnbull have been linked to a reshuffle of the Abbott ministry:

    The public undermining of Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull and questions over his loyalty to Tony Abbott have been linked to expectations inside the Coalition that the Prime Minister is heading towards a ”mini-reshuffle” of the ministry.

    A reshuffle after only 8 months isn’t a good look – if true.

  33. Rabz

    A reshuffle after only 8 months isn’t a good look – if true.

    It will be if Squire Turnbull is relegated to the back bench.

    Oh FFS, who am I kidding.

  34. Gab

    Yes Gab we know you’re very clever

    You do? Why thank you. I don’t agree with you, however.

  35. Gab

    According to the Silly Moaning Hearld-
    Attacks on Malcolm Turnbull have been linked to a reshuffle of the Abbott ministry:

    Ah, more rumours fed to them by Shorten. Send in the Barnator.

  36. stackja

    Baldrick
    #1335205, posted on June 5, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    SMH wants to help the ALP, by making up stories again.
    Meanwhile Bob Carr’s mate Eddie is claiming he is innocent.
    Which of course Eddie is entitled to say.
    As we may say about RGR.

  37. calli

    Rumours is it? Only if Doris Bagshaw is involved.

  38. twostix

    A reshuffle after only 8 months isn’t a good look – if true.

    I don’t think firing one or two useless fuckers would be a bad look for Abbott. In fact I think people are sort of demanding he do something like that.

  39. Baldrick

    It will be if Squire Turnbull is relegated to the back bench.
    Oh FFS, who am I kidding.

    Perhaps they’re going to give Skywhale a cabinet position … Minister of Food.

  40. Infidel Tiger

    The public undermining of Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull and questions over his loyalty to Tony Abbott have been linked to expectations inside the Coalition that the Prime Minister is heading towards a ”mini-reshuffle” of the ministry.

    Just give Barnabus and Sir Scott two super ministries. Send everyone else to the backbench.

  41. Peter from SA

    No sarc there Gab you ARE clever and I enjoy your work.
    But (there’s always a but) the Italian Job has me a bit confused however … I see you’ve tried to explain it by a Scott Morrison search. A likely story!

  42. Gab

    Come on, Peter. Truth is stranger than fiction. I really don’t trawl youtube for scantily clad ladies as they’re not my type.
    ———————————————————————–
    Now, that Philippa Martyr, she’s a clever girl.

  43. Baldrick

    Feral Cats Responsible For The Extinction Of Some Australian Mammals, Study Says

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  44. candy

    The public undermining of Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull and questions over his loyalty to Tony Abbott have been linked to expectations inside the Coalition that the Prime Minister is heading towards a ”mini-reshuffle” of the ministry.

    Fairfax and ABC consider Malcolm Turnbull to be the victim. It shows the very close relationship between M. Turnbull and the left media.

  45. jumpnmcar

    If there were to be a reshuffle, and there won’t , then a new portfolio ” Youth Affairs ” should be created and headed by Minister Wyatt Roy.
    Let the ALP choose a shadow to be obliterated on the floor .

  46. stackja

    Fairfax and ABC consider Malcolm Turnbull to be the victim. It shows the very close relationship between M. Turnbull and the left media.

    It It shows the very close relationship between the left media and the ALP diversionary tactics.

  47. Tom

    Fairfax and ABC consider Malcolm Turnbull to be the victim.

    I won’t inscribe a long line of Hahahahahahahahas, Candy, but that is exceptionally humorous, in a deranged sort of way.

  48. twostix

    Fairfax and ABC consider Malcolm Turnbull to be the victim. It shows the very close relationship between M. Turnbull and the left media.

    I bet Turnbull will he honestly surprised and gutted when he’s destroyed. He really believes that the ABC and Fairfax are the middle and News Corp and AJ are simply “far right” crazies who have no deep support.

    It’s the ABC and Fairfax set who have told him this and being stupider than the functional retard Stephen Conroy, Turnbull has believed every word they’ve said to and about him.

    Post-destruction expect another Australian Story episode where he tearfully tells of his crucifixion at the hands of evil Andrew Bolt and the “far-right” while ABC leftist laugh behind his back at his gullibility and vanity.

  49. pete m

    IT – Pyne is doing ok as well. I’d also whack C Bernardi into a families portfolio just to watch lefty heads explode.

  50. Peter from SA

    ah I see. You trawl for quite different things.
    Yes I’m kinda new to this whole blogosphere (if that is the right word) … but that Phillipa seems a very wholesome and decent girl. I might follow here more closely. Thanks for the tip …

  51. Peter from SA

    her not here …. well … you know …

  52. Peter from SA

    oh and Philippa, of course …

  53. Grigory M

    Perhaps they’re going to give Skywhale a cabinet position …

    Speaker, maybe. Bronnie just isn’t tough enough.

  54. Gab

    Yes I’m kinda new to this whole blogosphere (if that is the right word)

    Yes it is the correct word and we were all new to this blogging thing at some stage.

    ————————————————-

    JC, it’s at 23.30 so your 25 prediction is looking good.

  55. twostix

    The totalitarian public school system now speaks about “social intelligence”. That is, teaching children to “socialise” (as defined by public servants and dysfunctional academics) properly is given as much classroom time as abc, 123′s’.

    Turnbull would be regarded as very low on the “social intellegence” scale, owing to his gullibility and constantly being used and mocked by what he thinks are his “friends” who actually despise him. He’s so shit at reading people he’d probably be put in a program.

  56. johanna

    QT today was a real treat. Barnaby (I was thinking of putting a cutout here, then suddenly two questions! … You want to know who has influence? Eddie Obeid! etc)

    And then Morrison ripped them a new one.

    Warren Truss was surprisingly good. Hardly inspirational, but solid.

  57. JC

    Gab

    You can’t believe my disappointment waking up this morning and finding out it only went up 1.6%. How shocking!

  58. pete m

    for those that follow them, new episodes of Comedians in cars getting coffee released 19 June.

  59. Peter from SA

    Gab: I can’t believe I enjoyed the whole Rudd come-back solely through watching Sky News. Really. It was biggest laugh I’ve ever had. Well to enjoy it here must have been something else …

  60. Helen

    See the member for Indi backed up the Green to the hilt, suprise? Not!

    I did enjoy watching question time on youtube, Joyce and Morrison were wonderful and even Malcolm was on fire re Dollys knifing abilities!

  61. JC

    ECB cuts rates, announces deposits by banks with the ECB will now be charged -.15% and further policy announcements late this afternoon.

  62. pete m

    lol barnaby was good! Loved his wild dogs comment too – woof !

  63. Gab

    Warren Truss was surprisingly good. Hardly inspirational, but solid.

    I really don’t like Truss much however he is very good on points when he speaks in QT or debates issues. I just wish he wouldn’t stumble with his words so much.

  64. Gab

    Well to enjoy it here must have been something else

    It was, it was. Mocking Rudd was thoroughly enjoyable.

  65. johanna

    Turnbull would be regarded as very low on the “social intellegence” scale, owing to his gullibility and constantly being used and mocked by what he thinks are his “friends” who actually despise him. He’s so shit at reading people he’d probably be put in a program.

    Que? Did you not read Dot’s post today about how he made all the right noises about economic policy? But failed to deliver? On the contrary, making the right noises, aka “social intelligence” is precisely what he is good at.

    While the whole concept of “social intelligence” is worth another discussion, to the extent that it means making people think that you empathise with them in the short term is a quality usually associated with sociopaths, grifters and politicians.

  66. Gab

    Bronnie treats the Labor rabble like they were her grandkids when she should be treating them like they were repeat offenders.

  67. twostix

    Que? Did you not read Dot’s post today about how he made all the right noises about economic policy? But failed to deliver? On the contrary, making the right noises, aka “social intelligence” is precisely what he is good at.

    Turnbull really believes the ABC / Fairfax kids like him and think he’s awesome and funny.

    They hate his guts and piss in his beer for a laugh. He’s a total social retard.

  68. twostix

    Johanna on an unrelated matter, was it you who home-schooled your kids?

  69. johanna

    Bronnie is getting past it. She remembers the Standing Orders like yesterday, but often has trouble remembering who is the Member for What.

  70. Aristogeiton

    Infidel Tiger
    #1335267, posted on June 5, 2014 at 10:13 pm
    Fresh from conquering religion, Richard Dawkins has now declared a jihad against fairy tales:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/10875912/Reading-fairy-stories-to-children-is-harmful-says-Richard-Dawkins.html

    As an atheist, this prick embarrasses me. Note to athiests: atheism is not a system of ethics, and neither is ‘secular humanism’.

  71. johanna

    twostix, nup, not me re homeschooling.

    But if you think that the ABC don’t regard Mal as a buddy, you are mistaken. He is just the sort of chap they want (and have) at their launches and soirees, complete with smoked salmon canapes and whatever French champagne is in fashion this week. And he will be there, with Lucy, grinning broadly. Why, these people love me! Just a testament to their impeccable taste.

  72. twostix

    Fresh from conquering religion, Richard Dawkins has now declared a jihad against fairy tales:

    The author of The Selfish Gene and The God Delusion has previously said the had could not condemn the ‘mild paedophilia’ he experience as a boy.

    More evidence that every raging atheist is a suffering soul and mentally damaged and should be handled with patronising compassion. Yes, yes you’ve suffered in your youth at the hands of abusers. We all understand your trauma now let’s not burn down every church in the land and kill millions of people in response to that as your idealogical forefathers did.

  73. Infidel Tiger

    Deadman has homeschooled his children, Twostix.

    They’ve probably had the finest classical education in the western world.

  74. twostix

    But if you think that the ABC don’t regard Mal as a buddy, you are mistaken. He is just the sort of chap they want (and have) at their launches and soirees, complete with smoked salmon canapes and whatever French champagne is in fashion this week. And he will be there, with Lucy, grinning broadly. Why, these people love me! Just a testament to their impeccable taste.

    I’m just going off their behavior toward him when he was leader. They mocked him mercilessly.

  75. Joe Goodacre

    Edge of Tommorrow starring Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt is an excellent movie and I would highly recommend it. Great performances by the cast and a compelling storyline. Cruise performs out of his skin as well.

  76. Aristogeiton

    Infidel Tiger
    #1335276, posted on June 5, 2014 at 10:22 pm
    Deadman has homeschooled his children, Twostix.

    They’ve probably had the finest classical education in the western world.

    Will Deadman adopt me? I’m not housetrained.

  77. Infidel Tiger

    I’m just going off their behavior toward him when he was leader. They mocked him mercilessly.

    John McCain and Mitt Romney were Republicans who were beloved by the left. The moment they threatened them, they were viciously destroyed.

    It’s the same reason I want Plibersek or Swan to be Labor leader.

  78. dover_beach

    Deadman has homeschooled his children, Twostix.

    They’ve probably had the finest classical education in the western world.

    Almost a certainty.

  79. dover_beach

    From IT’s link:

    Reading fairy stories to children is harmful because it instils a false belief in the supernatural from a young age, the evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins has warned.
    Speaking at the Cheltenham Science Festival, Dawkins, a prominent atheist, said that it was ‘pernicious’ to teach children about facts that were ‘statistically improbable’ such as a frog turning into a prince.

    What an idiot. Sean Carroll, however, although philosophical incompetent, needs to be reckoned with.

  80. Zaphod

    The Dawkins story is a beat up.
    Update -

    “I’m really interested in research on the question on what effects fairy tales have on the child’s mind. On balance, I suspect it may be a beneficial effect rather than a bad effect,” he told the BBC.

  81. Gab

    Maclown Turnbull whining on home turf, the 7.30 report tonight.

  82. johanna

    Why is “the effects that fairy tales have on children’s minds” even considered as a valid area for research?

    What nonsense. What garbage. Going back to first principles, the confounders are so many that the exercise is worthless.

    Taxpayers, cuts to public research funding are often in the interests of science. This sort of crap reduces it to a 400 word column on Daily Life.

  83. C.L.

    I cancel my earlier WJW Award for the week.

    The new winner is Obama administration Deputy Assistant Secretary Brandon Friedman. He says Bowe Bergdahl was justified in deserting his comrades and joining the Taliban because his platoon leaders were probably “psychopaths.”

    We have a US administration that fully supports the extermination of Israel, Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood and the Taliban. Which is no great surprise given that Barack Hussein Soetoro was and almost certainly still is a Muslim.

  84. dover_beach

    Speaking at the Cheltenham Science Festival, Dawkins, a prominent atheist, said that it was ‘pernicious’ to teach children about facts that were ‘statistically improbable’

    Hmm, like the emergence of universe, life , intelligence, out of nothing?

  85. twostix

    John McCain and Mitt Romney were Republicans who were beloved by the left. The moment they threatened them, they were viciously destroyed.

    Whenever Turnull comes up I keep being reminded of Bill Whittles video on the Obama administration “gaslighting” the American people.

    It’s like we’re supposed to completely forget that Turnbull led the Liberal party already. He was leader. He was a compelte and utter fuck up and he was hated by everyone. The left mocked him mercilessly knowing full well that he was absolutely no threat to them. I was still a pop-leftist at that stage – he was an absolute joke, nay, he was a gift from the Liberal party to us. Even at the height of the whole ute-gate thing it was all a joke. And that was before everyone found out what a complete dunce he is and it was all fake.

    Yet he’s discussed as though he’s an unknown quantity as leader. Like all that history never happened. Weird shit.

  86. Grigory M

    Will Deadman adopt me?

    Maybe, Aristogeiton – you declared your love for him a couple of days ago ;)

  87. C.L.

    I suppose it’s conceivable that if Turnbull returned to the leadership the government’s stocks would soar and Bill Shorten would be destroyed. If that happened you could guarantee – confidently take to the bank – that the ABC, Fairfax, Jon Faine, the Chaser “boys” and the whole matrix of left-wing zombies in this country would dust off their Goldman Sachs one-liners, Potts Point sneers, Packer-era rumours, Godwin Grech analyses, “out of touch” umbrage, pomposity critiques etc etc etc.

  88. Infidel Tiger

    “I’m really interested in research on the question on what effects fairy tales have on the child’s mind. On balance, I suspect it may be a beneficial effect rather than a bad effect,” he told the BBC.

    You mean after he was ridiculed by even his most devoted supporters as a complete nutcase,he changed his mind? Sounds like a deathbed conversion to me.

  89. Gab

    The left mocked him mercilessly knowing full well that he was absolutely no threat to them. I was still a pop-leftist at that stage – he was an absolute joke, nay, he was a gift from the Liberal party to us. Even at the height of the whole ute-gate thing it was all a joke. And that was before everyone found out what a complete dunce he is and it was all fake.

    So when did the Left suddenly fall in live with Malcolm?

  90. Gab

    *sigh*, in love not in live.

  91. .

    Can you be a lapsed Catholic with strong objectivist leanings and a belief in secular humanism?

    Or do my beliefs once again oppress people and make me a criminal under Victorian law?

  92. Aristogeiton

    Grigory M
    #1335312, posted on June 5, 2014 at 11:13 pm
    Will Deadman adopt me?

    Maybe, Aristogeiton – you declared your love for him a couple of days ago ;)

    I didn’t want him to adopt me in the way of the ancient Greeks.

  93. incoherent rambler

    If you wish to see Dawkins destroyed in print, read Melanie Phillips.

  94. Andrew

    OK, assume a reshuffle.

    Sir Scott, which portfolios would you like? Hockey, stay where you are – taking volunteers for Artie Obeid’s vacant position. Julie, the ambassadors all like you.

    Then there’s Lord Malcolm. Actually doing a reasonable job with NBN. So let’s take his toys away from him – he might do his homework in future. New portfolio: Science and Technology. Fixed a Twitter sneer (“no Science Ministry”), includes the NBN but not the ABC.

  95. If you wish to see Dawkins destroyed in print, read Melanie Phillips.

    Read Melanie Phillips in general, or is there a specific piece that you had in mind?

  96. incoherent rambler

    “The world turned upside down.” and various publications on her blog.

  97. twostix

    So when did the Left suddenly fall in live with Malcolm?

    The moment Abbott rolled him.

    It’s hard to remember what an incredible revolution that was. Tony Abbott as leader of the Liberal Party? LOLZLOLZLOLZ. The mad monk? This is going to be so easy.
    That went well.

    Abbott should remember his roots. That’s when people liked him. He demolished the most popular PM ever simply by being a little bit rough and tough – like he was under Howard. This newish mincing poodle Abbott which only exists to appease the leftist media and leftists is disliked by all.

  98. Andrew

    Yet he’s discussed as though he’s an unknown quantity as leader. Like all that history never happened. Weird shit.

    Yes. I had these Green-voting commie scumbags pushing Lord Malcolm. They read somewhere (possibly Farrelly in the SMH) that he would be wildly popular. I question them on how many people actually stated the intention to elect LM when they had the chance, pointing out that he was not only the most unpopular LOTO in a thousand years but actually A666 is one of the HIGHEST approval LOTOs in history, in what is a wildly unpopular job. Just blank looks – it’s like they had no idea he was LOTO as recently as 2009.

    Then they typically parrot David Marr’s “AUS doesn’t want A666 – they never have.” I ask them to explain why he produced a 7% swing in only 9 months to the 2010 election and then repeated the swing SINCE the election. More blank looks. These people genuinely would not know how to pick their nose unless Twitter provided them with instructions. But they have jobs, and are allowed to vote.

  99. incoherent rambler

    This newish mincing poodle Abbott which only exists to appease the leftist media and leftists[,] is disliked by all.

    Love it.

  100. Gab

    So the Left hated Turnbull as leader of the Libs but then fell in love with him the second Abbott ousted him. So why on earth would people believe – especially malcolm – that they would still love him and vote for him if he became leader of the Libs again?

    Abbott should remember his roots. That’s when people liked him. He demolished the most popular PM ever simply by being a little bit rough and tough – like he was under Howard.

    Yep. I miss the Tone of old too and him trying to please the Left gains him no respect from either side of politics.

  101. dover_beach

    If you wish to see Dawkins destroyed in print, read Melanie Phillips.

    “The world turned upside down.” and various publications on her blog.

    Thanks for this; it will have to be most excellent to overtake Feser’s The Last Superstition.

  102. Infidel Tiger

    Die Nanny, Die!

    LABOR’S nanny state push to kill off the country’s addiction to cigarettes with plain packaging has backfired, with new sales figures showing tobacco consumption growing during the first full year of the new laws.

    Eighteen months after the previous government’s laws came into force, new data, obtained by The Australian, shows that tobacco sales volumes increased by 59 million “sticks”, or individual cigarettes or their roll-your-own equivalents last year.

    What great news!

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/labors-plain-packaging-fails-as-cigarette-sales-rise/story-e6frg6n6-1226945123085

  103. Gab

    LABOR’S nanny state push to kill off the country’s addiction to cigarettes with plain packaging has backfired, with new sales figures showing tobacco consumption growing during the first full year of the new laws.

    Gee, none of us saw that coming. And how much are we paying now that tobacco companies have taken Australia to court over this utterly stupid stupid idea from that dumb bint Roxon?

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/labors-plain-packaging-fails-as-cigarette-sales-rise/story-e6frg6n6-1226945123085

  104. Infidel Tiger

    That doesn’t even include all the illegal smokes that are being consumed.

    I’m fucking shocked that prohobition isn’t working. There’s no precedent.

  105. incoherent rambler

    Feser’s The Last Superstition.

    If you are into such readings – Paul Davies – God and the New Physics

  106. incoherent rambler

    I’m … shocked that prohibition isn’t working. There’s no precedent.

    Whilst illegally smoking cigars and drinking whisky indoors in the UK, I asked why everyone seemed to ignore the indoor smoking ban. The answer, “the cold outside will kill you”.

  107. dover_beach

    If you are into such readings – Paul Davies – God and the New Physics

    I read that over 20 years ago, IR, when I was an atheist. Dusting it off and reading it with new eyes would be interesting but will have to wait until the end of the year.

  108. C.L.

    Kermit Gosnell’s son changes name to avoid the family disgrace.

    Then he burgles a house with a knife and gets shot multiple times.

    Apples, trees etc.

  109. Foggyfig

    Have just finished watching todays question time – what was Bandt on about? with the fuel tax credit/rebate?

  110. Gab

    when I was an atheist.

    That surprised me. No rational reason why it should, but it did.

  111. dover_beach

    That surprised me. No rational reason why it should, but it did.

    Yes. I’m a revert, Gab. Deo gratias.

  112. Foggyfig

    Can I ask why you reverted, dover?

    I am a lapsed Catholic but have been thinking a lot about my spiritual needs (not sure if that is the right term)

  113. Foggyfig

    PS – dover, I don’t mind if you tell me to rack off ;)

  114. dover_beach

    Can I ask why you reverted, dover?

    The road didn’t begin with Feser’s The Last Superstition but it was certainly helped. In many ways, my reversion is a lot like Feser’s.

  115. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Dover and Foggyfig, this is an interesting conversation to drop into in the early hours of the Southern Hemisphere but the Early Evening in the Northern one. We have just come back from Forza d’Agro, a medieval village which overlooks the coastline from way up high (very, very high) on the way towards the Straits of Messina. It has ‘Godfather’ fame from the movie – I think via the very old and unusual Sicilian church (maybe for that wedding?), and a small cathedral too. Both were numinous places where we sat for a while to drink in religion with a capital R in a highly devotional context. We all seem to need something that is spiritual, but most of us don’t know what it is. I am aware of some force of existence; that is all. Dere ya go, Lizzie, says my Hairy Irish Ape, a completely (well, almost) lapsed Catholic who is still immersed in sacred music, as we round yet another scarifying hairpin bend and he points to a Madonna statue while I cringe in fear at the drop and the truck advancing at us way over the line. Ya’ve got some help at hand, he announces.

    Human beings seem to have an urge to seek their creation in high places, and their end in the underground in caves and catacombs. That much is obvious.

  116. Cold-Hands

    So what is new? Bolt confirms what everyone knows and why Fauxfacts is going down the tubes…

    I can reveal that Fairfax just makes stuff up:

    Fairfax Media can also reveal that Bolt and Jones have asked Labor for ammunition to use against Mr Turnbull, particularly in relation to his stewardship of the national broadband network.

    Complete crap. I have asked no one from any party for any such material. Nor have I used any such material. I don’t even believe Turnbull has done anything but a good job in his portfolio.

    Fairfax is lying or being spun by Labor or being fed untruths by a paranoiac.

    But to make this crazier, Fairfax claims that I am actually egged on by Liberals, while being fed material by Labor. What a grand conspiracy this is!

  117. Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower:

    Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force! You are about to embark upon a great crusade, toward which we have striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty loving people everywhere march with you. In company with our brave Allies and brothers in arms on other fronts, you will bring about the destruction of the German war machine, the elimination of Nazi tyranny over the oppressed peoples of Europe, and security for ourselves in a free world.
    Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well equipped and battle hardened, he will fight savagely.
    But this is the year 1944! Much has happened since the Nazi triumphs of 1940-41. The United Nations have inflicted upon the Germans great defeats, in open battle, man to man. Our air offensive has seriously reduced their strength in the air and their capacity to wage war on the ground. Our home fronts have given us an overwhelming superiority in weapons and munitions of war, and placed at our disposal great reserves of trained fighting men. The tide has turned! The free men of the world are marching together to victory!
    I have full confidence in your courage, devotion to duty and skill in battle. We will accept nothing less than full victory!
    Good Luck! And let us all beseech the blessings of Almighty God upon this great and noble undertaking.

  118. Cold-Hands

    Dramatic original footage of the Allied D-Day invasion of northern France that heralded the end of the Second World War in this narrated news reel from 1944.

  119. Baldrick

    Thanks Cold-Hands. Ya gota love the dramatic music and steely voices of those old newsreels.

  120. Senile Old Guy

    Edge of Tomorrow starring Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt is an excellent movie and I would highly recommend it.

    Thanks Joe. Going by your record, this means that it is crap and should be avoided at all costs.

  121. Cold-Hands

    Professor Skywhale makes a strategic retreat… as Hedley Thomas continues to hold his feet to the fire.

    CLIVE Palmer has quietly quit as a director of his flagship company Mineralogy and two other major entities amid a forensic financial investigation by China’s inter­national investment company into where more than $12 million of its funds went in the weeks before the federal election.

    Legal experts told The Aus­tralian yesterday that Mr Palmer’s resignation from the most important company in his corporate network may not distance him from any fallout from his escalating dispute with his Chinese business partner, Citic Pacific, which has accused the resources tycoon in court documents of wrongfully spending the money.

    According to documents filed with the corporate regulator and a recent update of Mr Palmer’s pecuniary interests register, he stepped down from the board Mineralogy on May 20 and from the companies behind his trouble-plagued Queensland Nickel refinery on April 5. The Queensland government last night called on the founder and leader of the Palmer United Party to make a public explanation about his resignation from his companies, where he continues to be the major shareholder. Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney, who last month relied on parliamentary privilege to describe Mr Palmer as a “crook”, said the federal parliamentarian needed to explain why he had resigned from the companies.

    “Mr Palmer can’t keep brushing off the serious questions being asked about his business activities. It’s time he came clean and told the people of Australia what’s really going on,’’ Mr Seeney said.

    “These are companies … at the very heart of Mr Palmer’s business empire. Is he trying to distance himself from these companies now, and if so why?

    “Does this have anything to do with the serious allegations levelled against Mr Palmer in the Federal Court by his Chinese business partners?”

    …The battle between the Chinese and Mr Palmer worsened last month when Mineralogy was accused in court documents of wrongfully spending more than $12m and of having no legitimate reason to siphon the cash, $10m of which was taken from an account in August last year and a further $2.17m in September, just days before the election.

    Mr Palmer’s costly election campaign saw candidates stand in every seat at a time his companies were under severe financial stress, but he has strenuously denied the allegations that Chinese money was wrongfully spent to bankroll his political career.

    Documents obtained by The Australian show that the two sums that left the National Australia Bank account dwarfed all other withdrawals. Mineralogy told Citic Pacific that the funds were for “port management” expenses, but documentation to support the expenditure was not produced.

    Citic Pacific, which has called for a “searching inquiry”, said Mr Palmer’s resignations would make no difference to the pursuit of the allegedly missing funds. The matters including hundreds of documents and bank statements are likely to be referred to police.

    The Professor will have difficulty holding himself up as the honest “anti-politician” once Citic drags him before the courts.

  122. Gab

    Heavens! Alan Jones is advocating for decriminalization of cannabis.

  123. Foggyfig

    Thanks, dover, I will do some reading. :)

  124. calli

    Twostix, Ellen of Tasmania also homeschooled her children.

    As for Dawkins and fairy tales, what a Mr. Gradgrind he is. His children didn’t turn out well at all…but that’s just silly fiction, isn’t it. Couldn’t possible happen in real life.

  125. calli

    exam, snappy, snappy, snappy! :D

  126. calli

    eam…sorry, sorry, sorry!

  127. Helen

    Abbott should remember his roots. That’s when people liked him. He demolished the most popular PM ever simply by being a little bit rough and tough – like he was under Howard.

    Yep, Tone light has none of the guts of Tone OP. Ten foot tall and bulletproof is Tone OP. Tone light is well, a bit like a fairy in the front bar.

  128. Bruce of Newcastle

    The progressive nannies are mad as fruitcakes on acid:

    On punishment of young scientists

    The 16 year old scientist Kiera Wilmot in Bartow Florida was expelled and arrested after performing the classical “erupting volcano” experiment.

    The Principal of the school, Ron Pritchard, was alerted by the school police and decided that action needed to be taken. He had the young scientist handcuffed and arrested, expelled and to top it all off he had her charged on two separate felony crimes, possession and discharge of a weapon on school grounds and discharging a destructive device.

    If the stuff I got up to with exothermic reactions at that age was subject to the same standards I’d still be in gaol now. And so would all the chemists I went through school and university with.

    And then I read this today as well:

    Climatologist Dr. David Legates tells the U.S. Senate of ‘the silencing of the dissenters’

    But too many in places of prominence and with loud voices have made this a war zone. Scientists like Bengtsson and myself have tenure or its equivalent and are somewhat insulated from the extreme attacks. But young scientists quickly learn to ‘do what is expected of them’ or at least remain quiet, lest they lose their career before it begins.

    I leave you with this thought: When scientific views come under political attack, so too does independent thinking and good policy-making because all require rational thought to be effective.

    It is not a good time to be a scientist.

  129. Combine_Dave

    Fresh from conquering religion, Richard Dawkins has now declared a jihad against fairy tales:

    Looks like he’s increasingly struggling to find relevance in a secular west. ^^ A cry for help?

    At least he is consistent with his views on magical thinking (as opposed to a certain politician’s apparent liberalism dissolving into nothingness following election night), although he may be behaving a little too literal by targeting the actual “magic’ in children’s stories.

    To be honest, does anyone actually read traditional fairy tales (aka Brothers Grimm’s work) anymore?
    Not that Thomas the tank engine’s talking engines don’t depart from a strict rationalist perspective of reality :D

  130. Rabz

    Alan Jones is advocating for decriminalization of cannabis.

    And as we all know – Jones would never advocate for something out of self interest. So when is he outing himself as a Rasta?

  131. Tom

    The Fucktard Media Industrial Complex’s manic Alinskyist jihad against the AbbottSatan Regime is getting quite unhinged. This is leading both Fauxfacts websites:

    Prime Minister Tony Abbott has refused to condemn two conservative commentators engaged in a bitter public dispute with one of his most senior ministers, praising the two as his personal friends.

    After a week of public insults between his Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull on the one hand and News Corporation commentator Andrew Bolt and Sydney shock-jock Alan Jones on the other, Mr Abbott pointedly declined to criticise the outspoken media personalities.

    He said also that criticism comes with the territory for people in politics.

    That, along with another observation that there had been some “over-excited chatter” made in recent days, could be seen by Mr Turnbull as a thinly disguised message to him to pull his head in.

    Asked directly if he agreed with Mr Turnbull’s criticism of Mr Jones as a bomb-thrower doing the Labor party’s work, and the claim that Mr Jones and Mr Bolt were running a concerted campaign against Mr Turnbull, Mr Abbott replied “no”.

    “Alan is a friend of mine, Andrew Bolt is a friend of mine, I think that they are both very significant commentators and they’ve got a lot to say as you know,” he said in Paris.

    And, Cold Hands noted above, the howler monkeys at ShakeMyHead/Pravda are now actually making stuff up:

    Fairfax Media can also reveal that Bolt and Jones have asked Labor for ammunition to use against Mr Turnbull, particularly in relation to his stewardship of the national broadband network.

    What Fauxfacts Media is actually revealing is that it is accepting as fact anti-LNP junk that being fed to it by Tits Shorten’s office.

  132. Rabz

    Tone light is well, a bit like a fairy in the front bar.

    And FFS, could he do something about that monotonous, wooden, speaking style? I’ve seen fence posts that are more animated.

  133. Rabz

    Prime Minister Tony Abbott has refused to condemn two conservative commentators

    This is seriously pathetic stuff. But hey, there’s always Barking Betty and Daily Life to keep those hundreds of thousands of paying readers coming back.

  134. calli

    To be honest, does anyone actually read traditional fairy tales (aka Brothers Grimm’s work) anymore?

    I have been treated these past few weeks to a two year old warbling ‘Let it Go’ from Disney’s latest, ‘Frozen’. It’s a version of Hans Christian Andersen’s ‘The Snow Queen’. Littlies are still enjoying fairy tales, just in a different form.

  135. Tel

    The 16 year old scientist Kiera Wilmot in Bartow Florida was expelled and arrested after performing the classical “erupting volcano” experiment.

    JC keeps talking bullish on the US economy, but I see articles all the time indicating deep and momentous social implosion. Things are not set to get better in the near future. Yeah I know that bad news stories get published in preference to good news, but even allowing for that… the bad news stories are not “cat falls out of tree” type stories, we are talking “inmates take over the asylum”.

  136. Tom

    NSW Premier Mike Baird says he is open to looking at legislative changes to make it easier to launch corruption prosecutions, following several new corruption findings against former NSW Labor powerbroker Eddie Obeid and one against his fellow factional leader Joe Tripodi.
    He is also considering whether politicians who are found corrupt should keep their parliamentary superannuation.

    Asked if he would change the rules of evidence to make it easier to prosecute, Mr Baird said: “My mind is completely open, in terms of action we need to take.”

    Despite a string of corruption findings against politicians and public officials, prosecutions have been few. Even with a $2 million boost to the Director of Public Prosecutions’ budget, dozens of referrals are still awaiting action.

    That’s right, you clown. You wouldn’t want to be too hasty. I mean, ICAC found Obeid was corrupt a year ago and the Liars-appointed DPP bureaucracy refuses to act on it.

    What is about the LNP that keep electing polite pissants as leaders?

  137. WhaleHunt Fun

    And they get to read Mr Calton’s columns for free.

  138. calli

    What Fauxfacts Media is actually revealing is that it is accepting as fact anti-LNP junk that being fed to it by Tits Shorten’s office.

    They have become the publishing version of Steptoe and Son, rag and bone merchants. You could almost cast the bandanaman as old Albert and Butch as young Harry. And they appear to be just as profitable.

  139. Gab

    From Cold-hands’ link above:

    Mr Turnbull was forced for a fourth straight day on Thursday to affirm his loyalty to the Prime Minister and support for the budget during a combative interview with Sydney radio host Alan Jones.

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. The egomaniac is busting a gut to get interviews.

    Bolt has updated at the link.

  140. Gab

    The 16 year old scientist

    How does one become a scientist at 16 years of age?

  141. Demosthenes

    If the stuff I got up to with exothermic reactions at that age was subject to the same standards I’d still be in gaol now. And so would all the chemists I went through school and university with.

    In high school we built a hydrogen bomb as a class exercise. Well, we exploded some hydrogen in a cannon-type arrangement, but our teacher liked to call it a bomb. Our projectile went four storeys high. Not possible in today’s America, and probably not even in today’s Australia.

  142. dover_beach

    At least he is consistent with his views on magical thinking

    Fairy tales are not “magical thinking” any more than works of fiction are “magical thinking”.

  143. incoherent rambler

    does anyone actually read traditional fairy tales

    Try C.J. Dennis.

    Hist hark! The night is very dark.
    And we’ve to go a mile or so across the possum park
    Step light, keeping to right

  144. C.L.

    Texas gun store wants imprisoned Marine returned home, proposes swap:

    Will Trade Obama to Mexico for Sgt. Tahmooressi.

  145. Token

    The author of The Selfish Gene and The God Delusion has previously said the had could not condemn the ‘mild paedophilia’ he experience as a boy.

    Do we have a link to this?

    We need to know what he menas by “mild paedophilia”?
    Is that when a member of the athiest state abuses a child?
    Is that what Whoopi Goldberg’s was describing as “not rape, rape?”

    The science is settled, children who suffer even “mild” levels of sexual abuse will suffer long term trauma (though will too often excuse the act & the abusers). We can also discuss how people who degrade the seriousness of abuse too often repeat the trauma.

  146. Gab

    Nigerian Christians Shepherded Into Church & Machine-Gunned by Boko Haram.

    When will the Pope say something about this situation?
    When will major Muslim leaders speak out and condemn the actions of Boko Haram?

  147. Demosthenes

    When will the Pope say something about this situation?

    In his Easter address, and on several other occasions.

    When will major Muslim leaders speak out and condemn the actions of Boko Haram?

    They have.

  148. john constantine

    tax funded sbs, after years of running dead on west papua under rudd/gillard/rudd, have their dateline program running indonesian brutality stories.

    if it is an issue under the great abbottbeast, why wasn’t it an issue under the sainted rudd, or the sainted gillard, or the sainted rised again rudd?.

    sabotage the government, using government funding.

    they can still broadcast this into asia somehow, right?. never let a chance go by.

  149. Token

    It’s a version of Hans Christian Andersen’s ‘The Snow Queen’. Littlies are still enjoying fairy tales, just in a different form.

    Our 4yo has learned a lot of complex messages from that tale. She is working through them slowly. Only a total moron who ignores the amazing work that is required to move a single cell lifefore into an adult with a human brain would even say fairy stories are not important and effective.

  150. cynical1

    Nigerian Christians Shepherded Into Church & Machine-Gunned by Boko Haram.

    Suppose UN special forces going on search and destroy footing is a bit optimistic?

  151. C.L.

    Are homosexuals soon to be trumped as the top suit in grievance poker?

    UNIV. OF CHICAGO STUDENTS OFFENDED BY GAY ACTIVIST’S “TRANSPHOBIC SLUR”.

    And “trannie” is the new n-word:

    CHICAGO – LGBTQ students at the University of Chicago are circulating a petition objecting to slurs gay rights activist Dan Savage used during a exchange at the school’s Institute of Politics event last week. They said they were made to “feel uncomfortable” by a “transphobic slur” used during Savage’s presentation.

    The incident occurred when, according to several sources, Savage and [the event hostess Ana Marie] Cox began discussing [Savage's] personal history as a gay man. According to a first-year student and member of the LGBTQ community who asked to be identified as Hex, Savage used the slur t—– as an example in an anecdote about reclaiming words. Cox then added, “I used to make jokes about t—-ies,” audience members recounted.

    “That was one of the most hurtful parts,” Hex said, explaining the perceived insult was that Cox used the slur to refer to the group of people she joked about. “In that context, it was like being applied to all transgender people,” it said.

    /Instapundit

  152. Token

    They have. … once the international press coverage occurred.

    By contrast let’s play that same game on this search – “muslims condemn killing christians africa middle east”

    Why do the articles run out after only 1 page? Why do the articles then get onto the endless claims of persecution by muslims?

  153. Gab

    They need to repeat their condemnations in a much stronger voice rather than just mewling about ‘Boko Haram’ are not muslims. Weasel words.

    The Pope mumbled something at Easter. How about today?

  154. Tom

    When leftists, as the usually do, commandeer the committees that dole out arts grants and awards, there’s not a peep as they stash away the cash. But if a non-leftist is allowed a say in the distribution of taxpayer moolah, the process has been “politicised”.

    The most craven hypocrisy ever published about the Prime Minister’s Literary Awards is here. Bolt’s take is here. Hendo’s Media Watch Dog later today is sure to be a ripper.

  155. calli

    Dan Savage…I thought that name was familiar.

    Erk.

  156. Gab

    > Suppose UN special forces going on search and destroy footing is a bit optimistic?

    The UN is run by a dictator of Arabs. They’re not going to do anything.

  157. Alfonso

    Nigerian Christians Shepherded Into Church & Machine-Gunned by Boko Haram.

    Nigerian Christians pining for a 2nd Amendment about now.

  158. .

    Gab
    #1335564, posted on June 6, 2014 at 8:31 am
    The 16 year old scientist

    How does one become a scientist at 16 years of age?

    If a 16 year old does not live as a scientist, they’re dead on the inside…or they’ve grown up very, very quickly.

  159. Gab

    If a 16 year old does not live as a scientist, they’re dead on the inside…or they’ve grown up very, very quickly.

    That’s all very nice but the article gave the deliberate impression that he’s a qualified professional.

  160. To be honest, does anyone actually read traditional fairy tales (aka Brothers Grimm’s work) anymore?

    I do, I love ‘em.

  161. LGBTQ Terminology” from the good people, um, things at the University of Wisconsin LA Crosse Pride Center.

  162. .

    Rabz
    #1335540, posted on June 6, 2014 at 8:04 am
    Alan Jones is advocating for decriminalization of cannabis.

    And as we all know – Jones would never advocate for something out of self interest. So when is he outing himself as a Rasta?

    This seems good given his reach and we’re generally anti prohibitionists here but really I take it as his total capture by the dreadlocked, unemployable hippies.

    Yah man. This is tha Ala-an Jo-wnes hour on 2-G-B mon.

  163. Tom

    Are homosexuals soon to be trumped as the top suit in grievance poker?

    It’d be hysterically funny if it weren’t so serious. The mentally deranged malcontents of the left have largely succeeded in destroying common law rights developed over centuries and replaced them with group rights. What happens when everyone has to belong to a designated group nominated by an unelected bureaucracy to navigate the law? Of course, it’s a rhetorical question. The left will not rest until it has achieved the totalitarian state of its dreams, where rules are only for other people — the proletariat, who must obey the elite. It’s only 23 years since the Soviet Union was disbanded and already the left is trying to reconstitute it in the West. It’ll all end so well.

  164. .

    That’s all very nice but the article gave the deliberate impression that he’s a qualified professional.

    As a child, I always despised Doogie Howser.

  165. val majkus

    for temperature enthusiasts

    :Still no global warming for 17 years 9 months

    By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley – Special to Climate Depot

    According to the RSS satellite data, whose value for May 2014 has just been published, the global warming trend in the 17 years 9 years since September 1996 is zero (Fig. 1). The 213 months without global warming represent more than half the 425-month satellite data record since January 1979. No one now in high school has lived through global warming.

  166. Myrrdin Seren

    > Suppose UN special forces going on search and destroy footing is a bit optimistic?

    The UN is run by a dictator of Arabs. They’re not going to do anything.

    There are no “UN Special Forces” to start with. National governments may contribute forces to specific missions, but the track record isn’t great.

    Also, from CL’s link:

    Boko Haram’s latest offensive came as it was reported Nigerian army officers have been convicted by courts martial for colluding with the al-Qaeda allied group, including providing them with weapons and secret intelligence.

    Ten generals and five other senior officers were found guilty in the first of what were said to be several ongoing prosecutions of corrupt soldiers, Nigerian media reported.

    Would it be possible to find ten corrupt Nigerian generals ?

    I guess so – probably puts them on a par with most members of parliament.

    But would ten generals be overtly taking kick-backs from Boko Harum ? I doubt that.

    Sounds more like the presidential family using a cover to dispense with some troubling officers.

    In either scenario it suggests gross instability within and between the government and the military.

    So before the Western nations that actually have effective special forces start getting hashtag campaigns going to dispatch troops in to Nigeria – let’s consider they will be enjoying lukewarm official support at best, and in the worst case while be having to watch their backs for attacks while hunting Boko Harum.

    Let’s not drop our diggers into another failed state s**tfight.

  167. lotocoti

    I must say I enjoyed the howls of outrage on the wireless this morning over the QLD Treasurer’s comments.

    Typically, the ALPBC presenter didn’t see fit to explain to his audience that ‘free stuff’ costs money.

  168. egg_

    Attacks on Malcolm Turnbull have been linked to a reshuffle of the Abbott ministry

    From previous, recent activity has hints of a rumoured handover, i.e. it’s not all just Turnbull’s doing – there’s likely far more going om behind the scenes – Credlin rearranging the furniture in the bunker?

    If you take the tidbits in the press as Gospel, you’re deluding yourself.

    Methinks ‘Wontongate’ had Credlin’s hands all over it.

  169. Ellen of Tasmania

    Twostix, Ellen of Tasmania also homeschooled her children.

    We did indeed. Right through to tertiary, except for our oldest’s prep (1st) year. Absolutely no regrets about doing that. Kids did super-well at tertiary level and are now well respected in their chosen fields. They want the same experience for their own children.

    We followed a classical education approach – including Latin, Logic, Music etc. And just to get up Dawkin’s nose it was a classical Christian education and to rub it all in a bit further they were also drenched in fairy tale, myth and legend – European, Greek, Norse; you name it.

    The terrain of Narnia and Middle Earth was as familiar to them as their own neighbourhood.

    And Dover’s right (what’s new?) – as if everything from nothing isn’t a fantastical story in and of itself. Dawkins is a foolish man.

  170. nic

    Are homosexuals soon to be trumped as the top suit in grievance poker?

    I spose its more a case of once that happens, who is the next group to rise to the top of grievence poker? Animals? Vegetables? We know ‘the earth/mother earth’ is up there.

  171. egg_

    Abbott should remember his roots. That’s when people liked him. He demolished the most popular PM ever simply by being a little bit rough and tough – like he was under Howard. This newish mincing poodle Abbott which only exists to appease the leftist media and leftists is disliked by all.

    Bingo.
    The new Abbott is Turnbull-lite.

  172. Combine_Dave

    It’s a version of Hans Christian Andersen’s ‘The Snow Queen’. Littlies are still enjoying fairy tales, just in a different form.

    Our 4yo has learned a lot of complex messages from that tale. She is working through them slowly. Only a total moron who ignores the amazing work that is required to move a single cell lifefore into an adult with a human brain would even say fairy stories are not important and effective.

    My little monkey would be extremely displeased if I were to read anything other than a story involving talking cars, talking trains, iron man (and occasionally hulk), the smurfs (but only the ones with Gagamel) but he’s not close to 4 yet, so maybe there’s time to introduce him to that :D

    I do have a download of Frozen… but he didn’t enjoy it (ie; wouldn’t sit and watch it and then was a little unhappy that I wouldn’t shut it off immediately and put 海绵宝宝/hǎi mián bǎo bǎo on his “puta”).

  173. nic

    Prime Minister Tony Abbott has refused to condemn two conservative commentators

    Seriously, for what? Did Faufacts have a similar headline about journalists who speculated about the fall of Rudd or Gillard? Then again, it was probably only Bolt who dared utter such.

  174. Bruce of Newcastle

    That’s all very nice but the article gave the deliberate impression that he’s a qualified professional.

    She’s a science student, to be accurate (and no its not my article, I just go there for the volcanoes).

    Some people do take liberties with the definition of a scientist, and given most of the US population are completely clueless, she’d probably does qualify relatively speaking.

  175. nic

    Dave, well done for having a bi-lingual kid.

  176. cynical1

    “This is what happens at the end of wars,” Obama said, speaking in Poland.

    “That was true for George Washington, that was true for Abraham Lincoln, that was true for FDR. That’s been true of every combat situation, that at some point, you make sure that you try to get your folks back. And that’s the right thing to do,” he continued.

    Read it and weep.

    George, Abe and the big O. Brothers in arms….

  177. Helen

    Apologies if any one has already posted, but truth is often terrible

    Palmersaurus

  178. cynical1

    There are no “UN Special Forces” to start with.

    Just for you.

    SARC SARC SARC…

  179. nic

    Kermit Gosnell’s son changes name to avoid the family disgrace.

    Perhaps in hindsight, Fozzie wasn’t such a good choice after all.

  180. Token

    Wow, The Australian’s series to celebrate 50 years brought reminds us on some important stories which warned the world of what we are facing today.

    WORLD events rather than domestic dramas dominated the headlines of 1981. Ronald Reagan was sworn in as president of the US on January 20, only to be wounded in an assassination attempt 68 days later. Pope John Paul II was also shot and wounded in St Peter’s Square and Egypt’s president Anwar Sadat was killed as he saluted a military victory parade.

    The left and radical islam use of violence has esculated since those days.

    Bill Mitchell’s cartoon on the state of IR is equally as valid today.

  181. .

    Boko Haram?

    Send in the IDF special forces. They’ll know what to do.

  182. Token

    Boko Haram’s latest offensive came as it was reported Nigerian army officers have been convicted by courts martial for colluding with the al-Qaeda allied group, including providing them with weapons and secret intelligence.

    Mona Charem recently noted Obama really can’t lecture Nigeria about negotiating & doing trades with terrorist after his administration just traded traded 5 very dangerous former senior ministers & governors from the Taliban government of Afghanistan for 1 deserter who got 6 of his fellow soldiers killed.

  183. C.L.

    Brandis does well …

    AUSTRALIA has made a historic shift in its policy on Israel’s control over the Palestinian territories, dumping its 47-year-old position that Arab land captured in 1967 is “occupied”.

    Anti-semite Labor Party outraged:

    Opposition foreign affairs spokeswoman Tanya Plibersek’s office last night described the change as a “foreign policy embarrassment”.

    It will be recalled that Tanya Plibersek believes the Jews are running a “rogue state.”

  184. Gab

    she’s a science student, to be accurate (and no its not my article, I just go there for the volcanoes).

    No, she isn’t. She’s a kid playing around with sciencey stuff. If she had a Human Anatomy game would the journalist be referring to her as a doctor?

  185. Combine_Dave

    Rabz
    #1335540, posted on June 6, 2014 at 8:04 am
    Alan Jones is advocating for decriminalization of cannabis.

    And as we all know – Jones would never advocate for something out of self interest. So when is he outing himself as a Rasta?

    This seems good given his reach and we’re generally anti prohibitionists here but really I take it as his total capture by the dreadlocked, unemployable hippies.

    Yah man. This is tha Ala-an Jo-wnes hour on 2-G-B mon.

    Does that explain why he hates CSG?

  186. Myrrdin Seren

    that was true for FDR.

    FDR died before WW2 ended.

    Both Obama and his Gen Whatever speechwriters know nothing of history.

  187. johanna

    Token, Mark Steyn has also written a very good piece about the latest act of treason by Obummer.

    The terrorists Mr Matanov is accused of “aiding and abetting” killed four people. What of the five high-level terrorists Barack Obama has just sprung from Gitmo to wander around Qatar at liberty for a year and then head off wherever they wish? Let’s take just one of them, Mullah Norullah Noori, according to a report from JTF-GTMO, leaked by Wikileaks:

    Detainee was a senior Taliban military commander in Mazar-e-Sharif during hostilities against US and Coalition forces in late 2001. Detainee was also the Taliban governor for the Balkh and Laghman provinces and is wanted by the United Nations (UN) for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiite Muslims.

    So Barack Obama has just liberated an internationally wanted war criminal who’s killed thousands of people. If going to a Boston restaurant with terrorists who’ve killed four people is worth 40 years in the Big House, how long would you get for helping terrorists who’ve killed thousands?

  188. Bruce of Newcastle

    She was in science classes Gab. They still have them in schools. Students who attend science classes are called science students. If they go to history classes they may also be called history students. Simultaneously. This is amazing but true.

    So she did an unauthorised experiment at school, got handcuffed and arrested. When bored we used to run gas into the garbage cans under the benches and explode them in our science classes. But were never arrested.

    The sodium fires were the best value though.

  189. incoherent rambler

    The sodium fires were the best value though.

    Touch powder on the window sill (for the pigeons).

  190. Gab

    science students.

    yes, not a scientist as yet.

    We used to throw Na metal down the drains in the lab for the pop when bored. The boss wasn’t too happy about it though.

  191. johanna

    Any of our resident macro economists care to comment on this? I’m always mystified by this stuff, but would like to improve!

    Why did the European Central Bank cut rates and introduce a negative overnight deposit rate which will essentially charge European Banks for the privilege of avoiding risk and depositing cash with the European Central Bank? This is best explained through a series of graphics.

  192. Peter from SA

    Yes Johanna it is incredible the ECB is trying to force banks to lend their money by charging a “negative interest rate” on money sitting around (surely this is a type of tax?). So there will be a mini-boom in bedroom furniture as people buy bigger mattresses to stuff their cash into. Buy IKEA shares!

    Talk about flogging a dead horse. or grasping at straws. maybe the Euro economy is just structurally stuffed for so many other reasons.

  193. Token

    I do have a download of Frozen… but he didn’t enjoy it

    Some boys like it, nearly all girls LOVE it

  194. Bruce of Newcastle

    Why did the European Central Bank cut rates and introduce a negative overnight deposit rate

    Most big economies in Europe have loan/deposit ratios below 1 because the borrowers are not borrowing and the investors are not investing. So they put it in the ECB because it is the safest place to be. The ECB doesn’t want it because they want the banks to be lending to investors, thereby making the money move and (supposedly) provide Keynesian stimulus. At the same time the ECB is tightening banking licences to force them to hold more capital, which works in exactly the opposite direction, since cash on deposit at the ECB can count towards their Tier 1′s. And they are tying up companies in ever more bureaucracy such that they can’t invest for a profit anyway, and their customers have no money to buy anything because of Green induced increases in electricity prices.

    No one ever said the EU was a logical place.

  195. Token

    Mark Steyn has also written a very good piece about the latest act of treason by Obummer

    This is really a left/right thing. The left is in an unholy alliance with radical islam, so they rationalise and enable men with a history of killing, raping and brutalising children (remember when they cared about girls being able to go to school) being released to brutalise and kill once more.

  196. Smart work Fair Work dickheads. You’ve cost at least one kid their job here. Waddaya going to say to who it is that gets fired?

    Ummm…”Don’t worry, kid. It’s for a greater cause”.

    Or more likely thinking to the effect of “it’s not all about you, sunshine! Stop being so greeeedy!!”.

    It reminds me if an old Rodney Rude joke…

    “Doctor comes up to me and says”I got good news and bad news”. “Give it to me, doc, what’s the bad news?”

    “You’ve got a week to live”.

    “Whaaat! What’s the fucking good news?!!”

    “See that hot nurse over there?”

    “Yeah?”

    “I’m fucking her!!!”

    No prizes for guessing who the doctor represents.

  197. johanna

    Thanks, Bruce and Peter.

    What I don’t understand is why the ECB is perceived as the only safe haven for overnight funds. Surely there are other options available to European banks, which while they might be slightly riskier, at least offer the prospect of a return instead of a fee?

  198. FDR died before WW2 ended.

    Well, obviously. That tends to happen when you take advantage of a convention not having legal status and try and become “President for life”.

    Yeah, yeah, he was democratically elected, blah, blah. So was Adolf Hitler.

  199. calli

    I do have a download of Frozen… but he didn’t enjoy it

    Some boys like it, nearly all girls LOVE it

    My two little fellas love it…lots of action and swords. They particularly like the bit where the heroine punches the cad in the nose. The other one they love is Turbo. And because I’m a big kid at heart, I love them too.

  200. nic

    lots of action and swords

    How long before that sort of thing gets tuts tuts about the need to use conflict resolution in non-violent ways?

  201. Peter from SA

    What I don’t understand is why the ECB is perceived as the only safe haven for overnight funds. Surely there are other options available to European banks, which while they might be slightly riskier, at least offer the prospect of a return instead of a fee?

    Bruce explained it much better. They have to have a certain percentage in Tier 1 assets and the ECB is by definition risk free, as it issues the currency. But his point about the EU not being entirely rational kind of nails it.

  202. Bruce of Newcastle

    Surely there are other options available to European banks, which while they might be slightly riskier, at least offer the prospect of a return instead of a fee?

    Traditionally they would buy government bonds, but government bonds are extremely risky at the moment as their price is at a high point. So they would get a slightly better return from the coupon (ie interest) rate, but they could easily lose a huge amount if the market value of the bonds fall. As is likely since Irish bonds for example are now pricier than US Treasuries, which is insane.

    Even being charged a negative interest rate you can see why the ECB is going have its work cut out getting the bankers to leave the security of the ECB deposit window.

    The real answer is remove the barriers to business and lower taxes and welfare, but politicians won’t do it since that is what “austerity” is.

  203. Token

    How long before that sort of thing gets tuts tuts about the need to use conflict resolution in non-violent ways?

    It has been often noted that the Hollywood types who spend a lot of money to get the D’Rats elected, and a first to sign up on gun control, make gazillions out of movies which depend on gun and sword violence to give them pep.

    It is part of the great game which ensures billions in taxpayer funds are channelled to an industry which donates tens of millions to the D’Rats.

  204. Token

    The real answer is remove the barriers to business and lower taxes and welfare, but politicians won’t do it since that is what “austerity” is.

    The regressive pro-gubbermint statists refusal to address the critical reform is leading to outcomes which are increasingly absurd.

    Aren’t we lucky the Liars Party & Green-reichers demand we copy the European model, and that if there was an election today the people of Australia would let them get back to that project?

  205. Bruce of Newcastle

    Another illustration why the EU is doing it is this:

    Here Is The Mystery, And Completely Indiscriminate, Buyer Of Stocks In The First Quarter

    (While this is the US, its also happening in the EU too)

    Companies have had big cash piles for a while now. That is because nothing they could invest in could meet their internal board approved hurdle rates of return. They can’t just leave the cash in the bank because they lose after inflation. There is nowhere they can invest it to make a return since interest rates are so low. So they buy back their own shares and cancel them.

    Which raises their share prices on the sharemarket (and makes the CEO’s big bonuses).

    And that is a big reason why both bonds AND shares are at peak right at the same time.

  206. the bad news stories are not “cat falls out of tree” type stories, we are talking “inmates take over the asylum”.

    That’s an understatement. That sort of wildly out of kilter response is more than simple insanity, surely. It is no less than a form of psychosis which has clearly affected authority at all levels. The leftist disease is the cause to which there is no obvious cure.

    Why aren’t the parents taking to the streets? I’d be calling for their resignation, loudly and persistently. It cannot be allowed to be considered normal, rational behaviour.

  207. Peter from SA

    Aren’t we lucky the Liars Party & Green-reichers demand we copy the European model, and that if there was an election today the people of Australia would let them get back to that project?

    I’ve been thinking here in Adelaide (or Radelaide according to an apparently spontaneous but seemingly government funded youth/social media thingo) the place has gone full Euro. Lots of money is spent in the inner-city … which is quite a nice place to visit like lots of European cities. And it is where the ruling class lives, works, plays and goes to Uni.
    But don’t visit the outer suburbs where a growing welfare underclass has nil chance of ever getting a job or making a positive contribution to society. All they can aspire to be is either a petty drug dealer (on the DSP) or a baby factory (on PP).

  208. johanna

    Thanks, guys. But I still don’t understand why the banks would not just plonk their overnight money into another bank – for example our Reserve Bank or even one of our very safe Big Four. Is that illegal?

    Appreciate your patience in educating this macro-economics dolt. :)

  209. Token

    FFS, the NBN is another project that must be hung around the neck of the Liars Party incompetents:

    About 118,000 homes and businesses that should be connected to the national broadband network can’t use the service because of defective fibre connections.

    The government-owned company building the network is set to pay ­contractors tens of millions extra to fix the problems and resolve a two-year negotiation stalemate.

    …Sources close to NBN Co said it would cost more than $100 million to fix the buildings already passed, ­including up to $40 million in extra fees to contractors.

  210. Bruce of Newcastle

    Thanks, guys. But I still don’t understand why the banks would not just plonk their overnight money into another bank

    That is because of a thing called bailing in. If a bank fails any depositor can lose everything they had deposited in an EU based bank above about €100,000.

    Although that directive isn’t supposed to take effect until 2016, in practice it already is in place, since the depositors in Cyprus got just such a haircut when Cyprus had to be bailed out.

    So the banks deposit money in the ECB since it can’t go bust. It has a infinite pot of freshly printed money if depositors want their money back fast.

  211. johanna

    Gosh Bruce, I see what you mean when you say that logic is not the strong suit of EU thinking.

    So they would rather pay a fee for having their money minded overnight than take a risk that the Commonwealth Bank or Westpac might go broke tomorrow, and make some money along the way.

    No wonder Europe is going down the pan.

  212. Bruce of Newcastle

    So they would rather pay a fee for having their money minded overnight than take a risk that the Commonwealth Bank or Westpac might go broke tomorrow

    Yes. The cost of overnight deposits is 1/365th of 0.1%…ie not much. But if a commercial bank goes insolvent overnight for whatever reason the cost is 99.99%. The risk committee in any bank is not going OK putting it in some other bank when even there the annual rate of interest is going to be 1% or less anyway.

    In these days of computer fueled high finance it only takes one bad derivatives bet, or internal fraud case and a bank can go under. Theoretically. Like Northern Rock or Lehman Bros.

    All this is because the pollies in the EU can’t see any way to get their economies in shape without being instantly turfed out of office. People don’t like their free stuff being taken away from them.

  213. Token

    Drudge confirmed what I suspected, the Obamas are likely to follow the Clinton’s route so the Chicago machine can get another 8 years in the White House.

    After all, only a racist would vote against an African American wymmynse.

  214. Peter from SA

    And what is the chance that the ECB changes won’t work the way they expect? For example, rather than increasing business lending it might just increase speculative property lending?

  215. Bruce of Newcastle

    After all, only a racist would vote against an African American wymmynse.

    Except for Condoleezza Rice. Its only misogyny if the victim isn’t a conservative.

  216. johanna

    Golly, the world of banking is more like voodoo than economics.

    The chances of our government letting one of the Big Four go under are infinitesimally small. OTOH, while the rate of return on overnight funds is not large, most businesses take the view that any profit is better than none.

    But not European banks, apparently. Remind me never to buy any shares in them.

  217. .

    About 118,000 homes and businesses that should be connected to the national broadband network can’t use the service because of defective fibre connections.

    The government-owned company building the network is set to pay ­contractors tens of millions extra to fix the problems and resolve a two-year negotiation stalemate.

    …Sources close to NBN Co said it would cost more than $100 million to fix the buildings already passed, ­including up to $40 million in extra fees to contractors.

    Remember how monty, Steve from Brisbane and Homer told us we were nutjobs for questioning the feasibility of the ludicrous project?

    What dunderheads.

  218. Bruce of Newcastle

    For example, rather than increasing business lending it might just increase speculative property lending

    That was one good thing about the bust up in the EU in about 2012. In the PIIGS there was a big housing boom and the banks got burnt, and so did the investors. There’s lots of stock overhanging the market especially in Spain and Ireland. The Germans like to rent not buy. So a property bubble won’t happen again anytime soon, except maybe in Poland and the UK (house prices there have been fairly frothy, including due to investors wanting rental returns).

    I suspect they will just sit on the cash, or return it to shareholders like Siemens at the link I gave.

  219. Bruce of Newcastle

    The chances of our government letting one of the Big Four go under are infinitesimally small.

    That is not the same thing as depositors losing their deposits…except for people with under $250,000 in their accounts (since they are voters). Every dollar above that would be fair game for the government to steal.

  220. After all, only a racist would vote against an African American wymmynse.

    Except for Condoleezza Rice. Its only misogyny if the victim isn’t a conservative.

    And Mia Love.
    I’d like to see Michelle Malkin run too, just to watch the multi-culti feminists tangle themselves into knots with all the reasons why it is “racist” to vote against Michelle Obama, whilst waging jihad against Condi/Mia/Malkin et al.

  221. For example, rather than increasing business lending it might just increase speculative property lending

    In this mighty nation of Oz, banks are dumping business lending as fast as they can.
    Why take risks (or facilitate the functioning of the economy) when you can pump out home loans & commercial property loans?
    Thanks Kevin Rudd. Dickhead.

  222. .

    Mia Love is probably in the long run the most electable.

    Malkin might be a bit too much acerbic. If she actually campaigned perceptions might change.

    Rice is in the prime spot now, but I always thought she was more of a wonk than an actual politician.

  223. Combine_Dave

    I do have a download of Frozen… but he didn’t enjoy it

    Some boys like it, nearly all girls LOVE it

    Ahh, well I’ll a retain a copy in case the next one comes out as a girl :D
    - Not that I am encouraging TV/PC watching.

    I was so proud last night when the little fella was recognising words and saying them before I had a chance to, while I was reading him a bed time story.

    Sure beats sitting down and watching any Hollywood/Disney/Bollywood kid’s blockbuster with him :D

  224. Mia Love is probably in the long run the most electable.

    She’d have won hands down and now be kicking arse ass in Washington, were it an Australian-style preferential voting system there.

    Malkin might be a bit too much acerbic. If she actually campaigned perceptions might change.

    Unelectable unless she could campaign effectively. She’s like Bolt, great with the printed word, not so user-friendly to swinging voters when in electronic media or on her feet

    Rice is in the prime spot now, but I always thought she was more of a wonk than an actual politician.

    She may as well run for Prez. She’d be miles ahead of the past coule of candidates the Repubs have put forward.

  225. val majkus

    talking about home schooling I have a friend who home schooled all 8 of her children – with magnificent results from the viewpoint of academic achievement and professional success
    her husband sadly died prematurely in 2011 but she continues to home school the youngest of their children
    magnificent achievement – hats off to her and to all the other home schoolers

  226. Combine_Dave

    Edge of Tomorrow starring Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt is an excellent movie and I would highly recommend it.

    Thanks Joe. Going by your record, this means that it is crap and should be avoided at all costs

    Now thats a bit harsh. Looks like a cracker of a film. Now Cloud Atlas, that was complete dross.

    The book however started limply and is only just starting to get interesting.

  227. calli

    The synopsis is a bit like Groundhog Day…but wiv tanks and guns and lots of splodey stuff.

    Sounds okay to me.

  228. Token

    Except for Condoleezza Rice. Its only misogyny if the victim isn’t a conservative

    P-lease, we all know people are not of the hard left (e.g. the recently ejected Jean Kitson) are not people so they have no human rights.

  229. Foggyfig

    Just listened to Chris Smith talking to Mike Willisee about Clive Palmer – worth listening to when the podcast is on 2gb. A small snippet on Ricky Muir as well. :( You think we are in a toilet now wait until the new Senate is in.

  230. johanna

    Bruce, the chance of the Australian government letting people with deposits in one of the Big Four lose their money are infinitesimally small as well. Ain’t gonna happen.

    Bugger all (numerically) people or companies have more than 250 grand just sitting in the bank anyway. I would bet everything I own that taxpayers would reimburse those that did, in the very unlikely event that one of the Big Four crashed and burned.

    European banks are not interested in making money by taking even the tiniest risk. They obviously prefer gaming the regulatory system instead. Rather like the home-grown product.

  231. talking about home schooling ….. hats off to her and to all the other home schoolers

    Yair, well, I see the sentiment, but I’ll never get my head around it.
    There is so much of the nation who isn’t within reach of a school (especially a high school), and the parents go to such incredible lengths and sacrifices to attempt to get their kids to a school that your heart almost bleeds.
    Then you read about people who have something others will never have (access to a school) and they eschew this.
    Someone people don’t know when they are well off.

  232. MemoryVault

    Yair, well, I see the sentiment, but I’ll never get my head around it.
    Someone people don’t know when they are well off.

    There is absolutely nothing “well” about the public school system these days, Steve.
    Especially for boys.

  233. There is absolutely nothing “well” about the public school system these days, Steve.
    Especially for boys.

    Perhaps my experience is limited.
    When I went to school (& it still works this way in that town) if the kids aren’t learning properly, there will be some “robust discussion” at P&C meetings, and if the school still doesn’t correct things, some of the fathers will corner the headmaster in the pub or at a rodeo & discuss the situation wtih him in a more informal but unmistakeable manner.

  234. twostix

    When I went to school (& it still works this way in that town) if the kids aren’t learning properly, there will be some “robust discussion” at P&C meetings, and if the school still doesn’t correct things, some of the fathers will corner the headmaster in the pub or at a rodeo & discuss the situation wtih him in a more informal but unmistakeable manner.

    lol. When was this 1875?

  235. Max

    There is absolutely nothing “well” about the public school system these days, Steve.
    Especially for boys.

    90+% of the teachers are female and they have 10% (and increasing) of the boys on powerful drugs.

    Imagine the uproar if those genders were reversed

  236. lol. When was this 1875?

    It’ll be happening there tonight, in the unlikely event the kids aren’t having the Three R’s rammed down their neck on schooldays.

  237. 90+% of the teachers are female and they have 10% (and increasing) of the boys on powerful drugs.

    In Balmain & Macquarie Fields perhaps. Not in Wheelyabarraback.

  238. Nigerian Christians pining for a 2nd Amendment guns n’ ammo about now.

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