Threat of sanctions

Here is a story that deserves greater publicity. Threats are being made against our trade, commerce and prosperity if Australia does not accede to foreign demands.

Australia could be hit with trade sanctions over the Abbott’s government’s decision to stop calling East Jerusalem “occupied”, a term used in United Nations resolutions and supported in votes by the Australian government.

The head of the General Delegation of Palestine to Australia, Izzat Abdulhadi, said the decision would “unfortunately” influence trade between Australia and the Arab world.

“I’m afraid this will really cast a lot of shadows, negative shadows, over relations between Australia and the Arab world, and there will be a sort of negative consequences,” Abdulhadi told ABC radio.

“We need Australia to change this position again to be more compatible with international law and United Nations resolutions.”

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62 Responses to Threat of sanctions

  1. Kaboom

    By Allah, wait until they find out about the GM sheep – the bacon flavoured ones!

  2. Alfonso

    “would “unfortunately” influence trade between Australia and the Arab world”.
    What, dates and live sheep? We’ll get over it.
    Oil is available anywhere for spot, champion.
    Australia must immediately retaliate by banning 3rd world muslim immigration of any sort.

    Win, win… eh Izzy.

  3. It will be interesting to see the Abbott666 reaction. Appease or not appease? Or raise the stakes?
    Also interesting will be the reaction of the Left. Back Australia and Israel, or back the Arabs?
    Lefty heads will explode.

  4. 'S

    Call their bluff. Ask that all parties recognise Israels right to exist.
    Indonesia might be a concern if they get swept up in it.
    Would be good to see trade figures between these countries.

  5. Helen

    Go for it Abdulhadi. We will survive. Of course, the risk to you Abdulhadi, in making this threat/demand, is that other countries might get the courage to say ‘go for it’, meaning you will actually loose influence. Are you a betting man, Abdulhadi?

  6. johanna

    The Middle East is a major market for sheep and wheat, especially the former. But whether the food importing countries are going to cut off these markets because of bleating by the Palestinians is another matter. And we don’t do much business with Syria, either.

    These are staple foods, not luxuries. Food shortages are not a way for already tottery governments to ingratiate themselves with the populace.

  7. Robbo

    Just tell Mr Abdulhadi and his made mates to get stuffed. We can survive without them and their trade and we can also survive without allowing into our country the people like him who want to come here and then cause mayhem under the protection of our laws. I have had more than enough of these idiots and their crazy religion.

  8. JC

    Don’t change it. Our government has already telegraphed our views on the disputed lands anyway.

  9. Paul

    “Australia must immediately retaliate by banning 3rd world muslim immigration of any sort.”

    Alfonso for PM….now!

  10. Goanna

    The Egyptians can’t afford to buy the same grain that the Chinese feed to their pigs.
    They like their ‘strong horse’ leaders but if you look around you see mostly donkeys.

  11. Bill Posters

    Is Palestine even a country? What is its native language?I thought it was just a bunch or arab tribes cobbled together by the terrorist Arafat.

  12. brc

    Feeble economies aren’t really in a position to be dictating trade agreements. Particularly when one of their exports most people are familiar with are economic migrants.

  13. Combine_Dave

    Indonesia might be a concern if they get swept up in it.
    Would be good to see trade figures between these countries.

    Pretty small in the big scheme of things. As is our trade with Indonesia suprisingly.

  14. Crossie

    You mean the Palestinians will refuse to take our foreign aid money? Will wonders never cease!

  15. 'S

    I read the link – thought it was from the Australian a day or two ago. They have trade with Indonesia at 4.7 billion and the Arab league at 3.5. There’s always mention of the peace process being threatened. Always gets a laugh. Even funnier are the guardian comments …. sanctions on Australia …. worst government ever …. climate change, etc …
    Do people cry as they post comments?

  16. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Another buffoon who wants to get his piggish snout into the trough of western money.

    Looks more like he’s asking for a bribe; for go-away money.

    A short message involving fornication and travel and we won’t see him again.

    Australian wheat feeds Egypt and the Saudis pay for it. Sheep exports go to teh Gulf. They all despise the so-called ‘pallies’ and treat them like dirt.

  17. Andrew

    Also interesting will be the reaction of the Left. Back Australia and Israel, or back the Arabs?

    Were you still drunk when you wrote that? AUS and Israel are on one side, the Left and the Arabs (or any other Muslims) on the other. There’s no contemplation or confusion here – they will automatically side against us.

    The heads would have exploded had Abbott666 adopted Blabbersac’s position of extreme anti-Semitism. That would have confused them to no end – is their ADS worse than their BDS?

  18. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    The ‘General Delegation of Palestine to Australia’ pretends to be a diplomatic entity. It’s apparently funded by the UN/EU and is basically a pack of propagandists and terrorist sympathisers on the make with western money.

    Love to see them audited. Bet that most of the finding is stolen and stuck into personal bank accounts. Hey, it was good enough for that peddo arafat….

    They are to all intents and purposes corrupt spongers, propagandists and beggars with a severe case of Jew-hatred.

    And as anti-semitic swine they can sod off.

  19. Mort

    I think MK50′s travel suggestion is the best advice.

  20. Is Palestine even a country? What is its native language?I thought it was just a bunch or arab tribes cobbled together by the terrorist Arafat.

    It’s just a leftist narrative. But i’m happy for them to have their own country, so long as they recognise explicitly Israel’s right to exist. But in the meantime, don’t buy our stuff. As nan used to say, “seen if i care!”

  21. Do people cry as they post comments?

    Soil themselves, most likely.

  22. jupes

    It’s funny isn’t it that according to Muslims the West Bank is now ‘occupied’.

    However from 1948 to 1967 it was part of Jordan. No one was agitating for the ‘return’ of the West Bank to the ‘Palestinians’ back in those days.

    What is the difference now? Oh, the Jews control the area and every single Muslim nation, no matter how far removed, considers the West Bank occupied. Can anyone see just a hint of racism involved here?

  23. Dr.Sir Fred Lenin

    Abdullah was shaking a rug out of his second floor flat,a passing Aussie called out”whats wrong mohammed ,wont it start?”. More muslim stories,A representative of the sudanese community complained TV wasnt shiwing any sudanese culture,TV channels were instructed to play “Crime Stoppers” five nights a week!

  24. tomix

    They certainly ganged up on Howard, along with the australian Left, when Pakistan refused that sheep ship on “disease” grounds.

    Iirc, Eritrea was the only country that would accept it, plus feed and a million dollars.

    Meanwhile, it was front page news for weeks.

  25. lotocoti

    Dear Mr Izzat Abdulhadi,
    Please give your negative consequences a light coating of machine oil and …

  26. JMH

    Let the pangs of hunger strike these idiots. It’s the only thing that may get through their primitive skulls. I fully agree with Alfonso – ban the importation of potential terrorists now. Not later. Now.

  27. johanna

    I have found some figures on meat exports to the Middle East here (click on the Market Report link for PDF).

    Our biggest market as of a couple of years ago was the UAE, where we exported around 14 million tonnes of mutton and around 6 million tonnes of lamb (in both cases we are the largest international supplier), plus a hefty 10 million tonnes of beef. The Saudis and Jordan are the next two, although they are much smaller.

    So sheep meat exporters especially might be worried if the Palestinians convinced the UAE to stop buying our product. But dumping the supplier of more than half your sheep meat is not something done quickly or lightly.

    There’s some useful Middle East market analysis in the report (23 pages long) for those who are interested.

  28. cuckoo

    Don’t worry, it is getting publicity…on the ABC, who are treating it as a good news story.

  29. Old School Conservative

    Thanks for the reminder Abdulhadi – it is time for Australia to get out of the UN.

  30. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    sheep meat exporters especially might be worried

    As someone who supplies sheep to the live export trade, you bet I am. Try seeing the price fall from just over $110 per head, to just over $50 per head, which is what happened recently, and the effect that has on a farm budget already stretched by the odd year of drought.

  31. Bruce of Newcastle

    Today Hamas is calling for a new intifada, which means they want to kill some more Jews like last time. The difference is now they are officially part of the Palestinian government. Yet the ABC, Fairfax, Guardian, Independent and PBL are all quiet on this announcement.

    When they treat both sides with neutral reporting then maybe I might actually be prepared to listen to what they say.

    Hell would freeze over before the ABC or Guardian actually did real reporting, so I am safe to say this.

  32. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Don’t worry about it ZK2A. The markets live sheep go to consider ‘palestinians’ to be scum-of-the-earth.

    No way they will change anything important like trade just to please people they regard as criminal scum.

  33. Tel

    My gut feeling is that the wealthy Arab nations are unlikely to abandon their comfortable lifestyle because some Palestinian delegation told them to. If they can use the controversy to knock down the price, that would be more like it.

  34. struth

    I wonder if it’s racist to think ….I have never met a good arab….even if I can honestly say it is true

  35. old bloke

    Australia could be hit with trade sanctions over the Abbott’s government’s decision to stop calling East Jerusalem “occupied”

    Wasn’t East Jerusalem originally the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem until the Jordanians took control of it prior to the 1967 Six Day War?

  36. Also interesting will be the reaction of the Left. Back Australia and Israel, or back the Arabs?

    Were you still drunk when you wrote that? AUS and Israel are on one side, the Left and the Arabs (or any other Muslims) on the other. There’s no contemplation or confusion here – they will automatically side against us.
    It looks pretty straightforward to me. I question the reaction of the Left. Will they go the Full Retard, or sob a lot?

  37. .

    Australia could be hit with trade sanctions over the Abbott’s government’s decision to stop calling East Jerusalem “occupied”, a term used in United Nations resolutions and supported in votes by the Australian government.

    Bullshit.

    Next.

  38. Woolfe

    That would mean we would not be allowed to buy stuff from them which would, oh, wait…

  39. James D

    Gillard raised the refugee intake, which is immune from normal controls like the fact you have to be skilled, law-abiding, smart, etc, from 12,000 a year to 20,000 a year.

    Every year, regardless of how many boat-people we get, we actually actively go out to places like Sudan and net in thousands of these people until we have 20,000.

    The problem will only get worse. We need to totally end the refugee program, or reduce it massively.

  40. gabrianga

    United Nations >UNESCO>World Heritage and all appendages should be amputated like tomorrow.

    Fraser started by giving away the highly mineralised land he had just given to the Aboriginal Traditional Owners of the N.T. so even they couldn’t enter into resource ventures on that land.

    Downhill ever since with Hawke, Keating, Howard, Rudd, Gillard, Rudd giving 100% support to these political thugs in New York ,Paris and all other luxury spots around the world.

    For a change,tell them to piss off Mr Abbott, as we in Australia can competently manage our own land without their “advice”

  41. .

    The problem will only get worse. We need to totally end the refugee program, or reduce it massively.

    What about escaping oppression?

    Please. Refusing refugees has been disastrous in history.

    Study history, James.

  42. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Don’t worry about it, ZK2A

    It’s just that I didn’t think any sane individual would shut down the live cattle trade, either, and the repercussions from that cost me a few bob.

  43. Farmer Gez

    At least the loss of wheat markets to Iraq was over war. To put trade at risk over a moral stance concerning unimportant wording smacks of stupidity. Plenty of grain in the market currently so we could easily find our grain locked out. Did “Genius George Brandis” give even a thought to trade implications? This could be the biggest stuff up by this Government by far. Let’s hope that the a Arab response is just bluster or that DFAT can quickly calm the waters, my income literally relies on it.

  44. Gab

    It’s just that I didn’t think any sane individual would shut down the live cattle trade, either, and the repercussions from that cost me a few bob.

    It’s outrageous! The morons of the gillard government just reacted emotionally and dumped on Australians in preference to some hear-say notion portrayed in a video of suspect source. The damage they exacted upon average Australians on the land was criminal and they walked away from it without any punishment. They will never be held accountable for the loss of life and loss of business they caused. Criminal.

  45. Jock

    I don’t want to eat halal food. Yet these days it is foisted on us. I would urge everyone to avoid all halal foods. It is ridiculous that this is allowed just to keep Arabs/ Muslims happy.

  46. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    my income literally relies on it.

    You and me both. A quarter of all wheat exports go to the Middle East, and no-one will ever forget that ar$e clown, Bob Hawke promising that no Australian businesses would suffer as a result of Australia taking part in the 1991 shooting match. The Australian wheat industry was the only business to suffer, and we are still waiting to be paid…..

  47. johanna

    Jock, are you giving up fruit and vegetables? They are halal, you know.

    There is a big difference between the absolutely criminal actions of the Labor government in shutting down live exports because of a TV program, Bob Hawke getting us involved in a war, and a bunch of unshaven Palestinians rattling their scitimars because of a semantic change in our foreign policy.

    The first two were overt acts by our government which were inevitably going to lead to market losses. No question. And in both cases, there was no justification from the point of view of the nation’s interests. None.

    This one is somewhat different. The only people who seem to care are the Palestinians, who (as others have pointed out) don’t have much influence on the trade policy of wealthy Arab countries. Affluent citizens of the UAE are unlikely to give up their Aussie mutton, lamb and beef – 26 million tonnes of it a year – because of this bunch of ragtag and bobtail terrorists. A tit for tat trade war with the West is the last thing that they want.

    I trust that Julie Bishop listened politely to the Palestinians, and then told them that their views would be taken into consideration – diplomatese for “fuck off, pal.”

  48. no-one will ever forget that ar$e clown, Bob Hawke promising that no Australian businesses would suffer as a result of Australia taking part in the 1991 shooting match. The Australian wheat industry was the only business to suffer, and we are still waiting to be paid…..

    Remember it clearly. Also remember Hawke “forgiving” Egypt’s wheat debt to Australia that year, as a thank you for Egypt supporting our side in that shooting match.

    It wasn’t his money to forgive. It was the income of thirty thousand or so Australian families. (This in addition to the $600,000 Iraqi wheat debt that had to be written off.) This was the end of my father’s sharefarming career.

  49. stackja

    When will the USA do as we are being told to do? USA Congress voting on this, I doubt.

  50. Mort

    Dot:

    Bullshit. Next

    I’ll go along with that.

  51. Damian C


    Our biggest market as of a couple of years ago was the UAE, where we exported around 14 million tonnes of mutton and around 6 million tonnes of lamb (in both cases we are the largest international supplier), plus a hefty 10 million tonnes of beef. The Saudis and Jordan are the next two, although they are much smaller

    .

    Just for the record Johanna, I am pretty sure those figures are in thousands of tonnes, not millions. Speaking as a former sheperd, we would have to slaughter most of the national sheep flock to get together 14 million tonnes of mutton.

    And yes, the duly elected Australian parliament shall set our foreign policy, not a bunch of kleptocracies, in-bred monarchies and dictators.

  52. old bloke

    I question the reaction of the Left. Will they go the Full Retard, or sob a lot?

    This just shows the power of the new demographic Labor has brought into Australia. There once was a time when both the Left and the Right were in general agreement about Israel, though for different reasons. The Left were enamored to Israel’s collectivist Kibbutzim movement, and the Right saw the re-creation of Israel as a bright light of democracy in the mid-east.

    The State of Israel came into existence in 1948 when the Secretary General of the UN was from Australia’s Left, the ill-fated Dr. Evatt, who actively promoted the Jewish State within the UN, and introduced the proposal to the UN General Assembly. Again, it was the Australian Ambassador to the UN, following the directions of the Chifley Labor government then in power, who was the first to vote for the re-creation of the Jewish state.

    The conservative governments since have also been supporters of the Jew’s right to live in peace in Israel, from Menzies to Abbott nowadays. It was always the same with the ALP up until and including Hawke’s Prime Ministership, since then madness has gradually seeped into the ALP. Why the change?, Muslim voters began to outnumber Jewish voters.

    The ALP needs the Muslim vote to survive, for example they managed to retain their western Sydney seats against the swing to the Liberals thanks to the support of the Muslim vote. Without that voting bloc, the ALP probably would have come in third behind the Nationals (imagine Warren Truss as the Leader of the Opposition vs. Tony Abbott as PM). Their power was expanding rapidly under Rudd – Gillard; they managed to block Paul Howes’s Senate bid, and they had Dhimmi Carr voting against Israel in the UN; shameful days indeed.

    And this is the biggest problem facing the ALP, the traditional “working class” have become aspirational so they need support from, and became the voice for, all manner of fringe leftist causes (including rabid leftist & Islamist Jew haters), and they are competing in that market place against the further left & absolutely loony Greens.

  53. Wozzup

    Screw them I say. We should stand up for our principles. By acceding to their threats and blackmail we are just playing into their hands. And we are playing into their hands by using language that offers implicit support for their cause.

    While Abbott is about it, why not press them on what “occupied lands” really means to this bunch. I bet you that if you can get them to tell the truth (they will not) they will have to admit that it means ALL of Israel. Just ask Hamas. That is the way most of these people use it. That is what I object to. And its why Israel has been so implacable in its dealings with them. When they have made peace offerings toward this mob the hand of conciliation and friendship has been slapped away because they refuse to accept Israels right to exist. In fact its even worse than that. They also subscribe to a rabid and virulent form of antisemitism that dates back some one and a half millenia and will not actually ever be assuaged short of murdering all Jews. As I said. Screw them.

    One more thing those of you who wish to support the kind of pro islamic clap trap put about by labor, the left and the UN …educate yourself on the “Palestinian cause.” Read this.

    https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2014/06/tactical-myth-palestinian-identity/

  54. johanna

    Nice analysis, old bloke. From my experience, it certainly fits western Sydney.

    They’ve gone from the working class to the dregs of the middle class to absolutely anyone who might vote for them.

  55. JohnA

    I see. And what international Law declares that the territory must be called “occupied”?

    And what is the definition of “UN-occupied”? (No, not United Nations – heaven forbid!)

    I would have thought that occupied meant “there are people there, and a government is responsible to maintain order”. So then the question is which is the proper government to administer the place? THAT’S a dispute. So “disputed territory” sounds logical to me.

    But I don’t think Muslims need any encouragement to sexual proclivity. Instead I would say: “build a bridge, traverse a bridge”.

  56. MT Isa Miner

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    #1346800, posted on June 14, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    The problem will only get worse. We need to totally end the refugee program, or reduce it massively.

    What about escaping oppression?

    Please. Refusing refugees has been disastrous in history.

    Study history, James.

    Dot, why is it our problem to solve when they don’t really want to solve the problem themselves. Not like we haven’t coughed up the cash to help either.

    Or are you saying that they can’t. If they can’t solve their own problems in their own country and with their own people- shit why do we want people that handicapped here?

    Other countries/people have been oppressed and have got out from under. English, Swiss, Holland, all of the bits of Europe was oppressed at some stage. I don’t mean the WW’s either. I do like history in my old age. There’s a lot to learn.

  57. MT Isa Miner

    johanna

    #1346852, posted on June 14, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    Jock, are you giving up fruit and vegetables? They are halal, you know.

    Huh? You well know that fruit and veg don’t need certification to be halal, johanna. Mudding the water is not on.

    Its the regulations crap and the sting of all of us paying more to keep a multiculti bunch of whingers happy that I object to ( probably Jock too) . At least the kosher crap for the Jews is done privately and doesn’t cost every happy little vegemite money.

  58. Alfonso

    MT, the LDP doesn’t give a rats about Western culture or even link past national success to cultural values. They are as trapped by undergraduate political dogma as the left.
    According to LDP thought bubbles as many Chinese Uyghurs can buy their way in as have funds (it’ll never happen is the defence, until it does presumably)….gee, the People’s Republic might even finance their move to Aust. as a solution to the “unrest”.

    For a $1 billion, at $50,000/ cultural invader, the Saudi’s get to finance 20,000 3rd world Sunni Caliphate extenders into Australia each year…..beer money for the House of Saud.
    And they get to change Australia in just a few decades without the sheep even being asked.
    Same ‘ol LDP.

  59. johanna

    Huh? You well know that fruit and veg don’t need certification to be halal, johanna. Mudding the water is not on.

    My point was that statements like “I don’t want to eat Halal food” are meaningless.

    If you have a gripe about certification, say so, and explain why.

    I will eat anything that is yummy, whether it is or is not certified Halal, free-range, organic or whatever. People who think that food choices should be determined by ideology or religion are free to do so. That’s up to them. But it is food faddism masquerading as politics, IMO. Fruit and veg are Halal, not to mention Kosher. Stating that is not muddying the waters, it is trying to clear them.

  60. cohenite

    Still looking for a moderate fucking muslim.

  61. .

    cohenite thinks Ed Husic is a militant Muslim?!

    I don’t care for giving people handouts. Giving handouts comes at the cost punishing taxes!

    The world rejected refugees once and they regretted it deeply.

    SS St Louis anyone?

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