Wednesday Tuesday Forum: June 17, 2014

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  1. C.L.

    ABC Online:

    “the greatest goal ever scored by an Australian”

    “magnificent”

    “world-class”

    “Full credit”

    “magnificent”

    “impressed”

    “brilliant”

    “magnificent”

    “outstanding”

    Netherlands beat Socceroos 3-2.

  2. Anne

    Thanks Gab and Foggy.

    I hesitate. I’m feeling far too amiable this morning to be outraged by the outrageous.

    Maybe just a peak…

  3. nic

    Only ‘white’ people are racist remember. As Chinese aren’t the ‘victims’, not much will come of this:

    http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=30&art_id=146551&sid=42473157&con_type=3

  4. C.L.

    Seems like the vast majority of objections to the mosque were on the grounds of it being, well, Islamic.

    Like the vast majority of objections to the Ku Klux Klan are on the grounds that they’re, well, the Ku Klux Klan.

  5. Baldrick

    nic
    #1352238, posted on June 19, 2014 at 10:07 am
    Only ‘white’ people are racist remember. As Chinese aren’t the ‘victims’, not much will come of this:

    … and here’s the ad. LOL

  6. Anne

    CL 10.08

    Seems like the vast majority of objections to the mosque were on the grounds of it being, well, Islamic.

    I understand protestors prevailed by burying a pig at the proposed World Trade Centre Mosque site.

    Why didn’t the Bendigo mob do that?

  7. Gab

    Just for you, Dot and the residents of Bendigo. A song in celebration.

  8. Anne

    Baldrick, 10.17

    No subtitles? That’s pretty funny even without the sound.

  9. .

    Well Gab if you want shit like the Kelo decision, that’s on you.

  10. Rabz

    Anne,

    I don’t do twatter.

  11. Gab

    Aww, c’mon Dot, no need to get miffy about it all. I was just teasing.
    All together now … “Allahhhhhhh Akbar…”

  12. .

    If you support the Kelo decision, than that shit is on you.

  13. Anne

    I don’t do twatter.

    You’re a smart man.

    I don’t either, except for following people like Krauthammer, DanHannan, Twitchy and @fredthompson, who is my favourite.

  14. Anne

    What about the pig thing?

    If that works… a pork chop in every yard?

    Seriously, I’d like some opinions on this.

  15. Gab

    Stop it, Anne! If you support the Kelso decision then that’s on you!

  16. Infidel Tiger

    Fantastic news about the High Court decision on school chaplains.

    That is going to make hundreds, if not thousands of government program’s unconstitutional! Woohoo!

  17. Anne

    Kelso? Ooh… I’ll read that when I get back.

    Walkies!

  18. .

    Hopefully it will make FAGS and the RDA grants unconstitutional.

  19. tom

    WTF, Gab? In 50 words or fewer.

  20. nic

    Baldrick, remember when ‘how I met your mother’ had caucasians dressed as Chinese? It was funny too, however, some had contrary opinions. The video is quite revealing about how other cultures view certain nationalities.

  21. Infidel Tiger

    It potentially makes the NDIS unconstutional!

    My God, imagine if those arseclowns in Canberra had to govern by the constitution?

  22. Eddystone

    That goal was a fluke fantastic!

    I think we can confidently say that the Socceroos almost won the World Cup. (Except for not getting enough goals to win a game. Apart from that, brilliant.)

  23. Baldrick

    nic
    #1352309, posted on June 19, 2014 at 10:50 am

    As per your link above nic -

    AMCB’s Eni Lestari told The Standard: “It’s racist – how they actually racially profiled a foreign domestic worker as dark-skinned and curly haired. They used a Chinese man acting like Southeast Asian people … you are making a joke of the other race.”

    Apparently, it’s more an insult to the AMCB that the bumbling, Filipino accented, foreign domestic worker was depicted with dark skin and curly hair.

  24. Infidel Tiger

    So we’re out of the Soccer Games already.

    I confidently predict a government enquiry and more boondoggling.

  25. lotocoti

    I confidently predict a government enquiry and more boondoggling.

    Frank Lowy will insist $100M from the taxpayers now will return eleventy-billion if we host the 2056 World Cup.

  26. nic

    Apparently, it’s more an insult to the AMCB that the bumbling, Filipino accented, foreign domestic worker was depicted with dark skin and curly hair.

    Lol, that’s another issue.

  27. One more match to go, IT; we’re still to play Spain.

  28. Helen

    The soccer games enquiry will report that more money is nneded to be invested ;- a soccer acadamy no less, so that good Aussie kids who know the words to the Oi Oi anthem overseas b grade players can be trained to realise their potential – just like tennis, swimming, hockey etc.

  29. Helen

    needed, academy – noddy no glasses me ..

  30. brc

    Sure the soccer boys lost, but they did better than expected.

    Spain, the last cup winners and amongst the favourites, got spanked by the netherlands 5-1. Australia, considered to be a new and useless team destined for humiliation, lost 3-2 against the same team. Australia will now face up against Spain for an interesting match.

    Confining your interest in sport only to the winner is like confining your enjoyment of wine to only the first bottle. Australia has done better than expected, the team is performing better than expectations. It’s Ok to barrack for a team that is destined not to win, but to take interest in how they get on, and how they play.

  31. Rabz

    Give it a rest, peoples – I’m hurting big time, I tells ya!

    :(

  32. .

    I’m backing Australia. I’m just sick of the low bar the SBS and some fanatical fans have.

  33. Snoopy

    If getting kicked out of the World Cup means that Jimoin gets the flick, it’s a small price to pay.

  34. Infidel Tiger

    One more match to go, IT; we’re still to play Spain.

    Australia will now face up against Spain for an interesting match.

    A nail biting match to determine last place.

  35. Rabz

    that Jimoin gets the flick

    Yes, there’s a village somewhere being cruelly deprived of its idiot.

  36. Rabz

    A nail biting match to determine last place.

    Australian soccer – a global powerhouse!

  37. nic

    Yes, there’s a village somewhere being cruelly deprived of its idiot.

    In his case, literally.

  38. JMH

    Hmmm – SLF – if K/Court report on the money.

  39. C.L.

    Jimoin

    Funny for a week in 1989.

  40. Baldrick

    tom
    #1352379, posted on June 19, 2014 at 11:52 am
    Breaking latest: bullshit everywhere.

    That’s just bullshit tom :)

  41. Gab

    http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2014/06/19/bill-shorten-arrested-and-interviewed-by-sexual-crimes-squad-regarding-alleged-rape-of-16-yr-old-girl/

    Nah, that story can’t be true otherwise we’d have seen it reported by Fairfax publications, the Guardian and the ABC. *smirk*

  42. Infidel Tiger

    Was listening to the wireless this morning when lo and behold the ABC announcer said they had Nobel laureate Barry Marshall on the line to talk about GM foods and the recent court case in WA. At this stage I and the announcer naturally assumed he was going to talk about Frankenfoods, instead he ripped into anti-GM foodies and their supporter as liars and frauds. Geoff Hutchison ended up doing the old “sorry Barry, would love to talk, but we have time constraints” thing. The next bloke on was from the Pastoralists & Graziers who wanted to Barry back on!

  43. Grigory M

    Forget about the placings – Australia has done well to just be in the World Cup. Our team has played some very good soccer (football) against some of the world’s best teams. Goals scored at this level are often by happenstance – for winners and losers there are always good plays that result in near-misses. So, be proud of them and cheer for them in their next game – against the reigning World Champions, Spain. They deserve our support.

  44. Gab

    instead he ripped into anti-GM foodies and their supporter as liars and frauds

    Good on him. I guess the ABC doesn’t do its homework and believes everyone is anti-GM becuase the ABC is.

  45. H B Bear

    Geoff Hutchison ended up doing the old “sorry Barry, would love to talk, but we have time constraints” thing.

    Nanna Hutch is funny when things don’t go his way.

    He had someone on after the budget saying they couldn’t afford to buy a new wheelchair for their kid. I sent a text in asking how many wheelchairs you could buy with the $1.1bn it cost to run the ALPBC. He read it out and then had a little tanty.

  46. .

    The shit that gets said in Parliament:

    First of all stuff I wish was true:

    Some ALP stooge from QLD:

    Sue Boyce is a true liberal.

    The liberal party is being taken over by the tea party zealots.

    The budget is cruel.

    Secondly, some delusional crap that would have required Tasmania to have electricity three times cheaper than the mainland back in the 1980s:

    Katter: Privatisation made Tasmanian power four times more expensive than whilst in state ownership and is why there is no capital investment.

  47. Infidel Tiger

    Forget about the placings – Australia has done well to just be in the World Cup.

    This is classic loser talk. It’s not the Special Olympics. If you want a ribbon for coming last, enter an egg and spoon race at kindy.

    Anything short of total victory is complete failure.

  48. JMH

    Gab: Nah, that story can’t be true otherwise we’d have seen it reported by Fairfax publications, the Guardian and the ABC. *smirk*

    What would we do without those reliable and acute journals of record, Gab? The thought is too horrible to contemplate for a fraction of a nano-second!

  49. tom

    He read it out and then had a little tanty.

    Quality work, Humphrey.

  50. Bruce of Newcastle

    Australia has done well to just be in the World Cup.

    Anything short of total victory is complete failure.

    Well we did win. That is probably even good enough for Infi.

    Kookaburras thrash the Netherlands to win hockey World Cup

    Sport is war.

  51. Baldrick

    Australia’s FIFA Ranking position … 62. We belong in the ‘special’ category.

  52. .

    Not good enough. No clean sheet. No double from the girls.

    Thank their cotton socks they aren’t from pre 2003 Iraq!

    Criello only got three dragflick PC goals?

    IT, what is a suitable punishment?

  53. nic

    IT, what is a suitable punishment?

    Diversity lectures from a coven of frightbats until performances improve

  54. .

    Baldrick
    #1352446, posted on June 19, 2014 at 12:43 pm
    Australia’s FIFA Ranking position … 62. We belong in the ‘special’ category.

    That’s got to be bullshit.

    Holland might have put in a weaker team, but to lose 2-3 to the last runners up and a current grand final contender and be in the final 32?

    How the fuck does that make you #62?!

  55. Infidel Tiger

    IT, what is a suitable punishment?

    Playing soccer is suitable punishment enough.

  56. twostix

    What is this shit?

    http://online.wsj.com/articles/rupert-murdoch-immigration-reform-cant-wait-1403134311

    Talk about mealy mouthed. Come out and say it Murdoch: You want the US to have an open border with Mexico.

  57. Baldrick

    Baldrick
    #1352446, posted on June 19, 2014 at 12:43 pm
    Australia’s FIFA Ranking position … 62. We belong in the ‘special’ category.
    That’s got to be bullshit.

    Beats me. Ask FIFA.

  58. Snoopy

    We belong in the ‘special’ category.

    And that doesn’t mean two-tone paint + radio + heater and demister.

  59. Infidel Tiger

    6 months without a boat.

    Take a bow, Sir Scott.

  60. nic

    6 months without a boat.

    Sigh, an extended monsoon owing global warming plus push factors pulling.

  61. Baldrick

    Didn’t somebody make a song about 6 months without a leaky boat?

  62. Bruce of Newcastle

    Come out and say it Murdoch

    Easy answer, just abolish all borders and call it all Texas.

    Canada can be North Texas and Mexico can be South Texas. Problem solved. Rick Perry can be the first President

  63. Grigory M

    This is classic loser talk.

    Classic realist talk is what it is, IT. There are no Rooneys or Ronaldos in the Australian team – and seemingly none coming up through the ranks here. The Portugese may have reason to diss their team, especially after Ronaldo’s poor performance against Germany, – but we don’t.

  64. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    was from the Pastoralists and Graziers

    Known as “Puffers and Grunters” here in the Wild West.

  65. Steve D

    Bolta’s reporting the dinner with Sir Cumference went for $5200 at the Midwinter Ball last night. Hopefully the winning bidder factored-in the need to stop and pick up a pizza on the way home.

  66. .

    Banned by Bob Hawke during the First Gulf War, or so I have been led to believe by an elder sibling.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar7DgREshAk&feature=kp

  67. .

    Steve D
    #1352472, posted on June 19, 2014 at 1:03 pm
    Bolta’s reporting the dinner with Sir Cumference went for $5200 at the Midwinter Ball last night. Hopefully the winning bidder factored-in the need to stop and pick up a pizza on the way home.

    That’s a hell of a lot of all you can eat ham and pineapple pizza at the soiree for starters…

  68. tom

    Blair Derangement Syndrome has created a micro-counter-propaganda industry, which, of course, will be gone in a day or two when the dickless fucktard progressives move onto the next thought bubble. I couldn’t help groaning when they dredged this up from the 1970s, which roughly translates as: if you’re a super-intelligent non-leftist male like Blair, you must be scared of smart chicks. FMD.

  69. Rabz

    if you’re a super-intelligent non-leftist male like Blair, you must be scared of smart chicks

    Yes, because as we all know, Barking Betty, Clam Bistro, et al are all veritable female Einsteins.

    FFS.

  70. Rabz

    Banned by Bob Hawke during the First Gulf War, or so I have been led to believe by an elder sibling.

    Dot – I believe it was banned by the BBC during the Falklands War.

  71. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I believe it was banned by the BBC during the Falklands War

    If I remember rightly, it was banned by the BBC following the sinking of HMS Sheffield.

  72. Rabz

    Ask FIFA.

    Just don’t forget to bring your brown paper bags chockers with the folding stuff.

  73. Supplice

    Meanwhile, in Victim Poker, a white homosexual professor sues a black college for discrimination.

  74. johanna

    Denise
    #1352184, posted on June 19, 2014 at 9:00 am

    Benny Hinn is about as authentic as a three dollar note. He’s one of the certain men who’ve crept in unawares who through covetousness make merchandise of gullible undiscerning Christians.

    I once caught part of this scumbag’sprogram where he claimed to be curing things like cancer and diabetes on stage, and was soliciting funds on the strength of it. It made me so angry I actually complained in writing – first to the channel (who flipped me off), and then to ACMA.

    Three months later I got a long and incomprehensible reply from ACMA, the upshot of which was that there is nothing in what he was doing that breaches any of the gazillion pages of legislation, regulations and guidelines that govern broadcasting in this country.

    Yep, outright fraud on TV is perfectly legal. So why do we need the gazillion pages of bumph? Why, so that a throwaway line by Alan Jones on the radio can force him to be sent to re-education camp, of course.

    Disgraceful.

  75. An Iraq veteran writes on the situation that has developed recently.

    I’ll tell you what, let’s go back to Iraq.

    Oh, yes, let us do that.

    I’ll dig out my uniform and strap on my pistol and gird up my sword and ride into battle yet again.

    Just so long as Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, Rush Limbaugh, Anne Coulter, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Paul Ryan, Sarah Palin, Rick Perry, and every single one of those powdered, Botoxed talking heads at Fox News are in the vanguard. That’s right, you cowards, you put on a uniform and you lead the charge this time around. The Koch brothers and Mitt Romney can pay for it, every goddamned penny, we’ll bleed them until they’re dry and then we’ll pull the gold fillings from their teeth to pay for it right along with the rest of their Wall Street cronies. You fuckers got rich off the last one, you can damned well pay for this one. And when you run out of money, we’ll take your blood, fair’s fair.

    Strap John McCain into the cockpit of an A-4 Skyhawk and let him fly air cover.

    If he gets himself shot down and taken prisoner again, well, you know what? F**k him, leave him to the enemy because frankly his hate and bile and raging insanity have done more damage to this country than Bowe Bergdahl ever did.

    The terrorists can keep him.

    RTWT.

  76. Foggyfig

    FIVE kicked out during QT – must have too much alcohol still in the system :D :D

  77. Andrew

    Shorten has asked the same 3 questions all week.

    Censure motion now.

  78. Aristogeiton

    1735099
    #1352620, posted on June 19, 2014 at 2:40 pm
    [...]
    RTWT.

    No.

  79. H B Bear

    Good to see Credlin has got weird, religious nutjob Kevin Andrews out doing plenty of media today to remind people of the quality ministers in the Abbott cabinet.

  80. Pedro the Ignorant

    Go and have your afternoon nap, you senile old fool, numbers.

    Not everyone here hates the Americans like you.

  81. JC

    Just randomly

    I’m passionate about the complexity of the push pull factors.

  82. Bruce of Newcastle

    An Iraq veteran writes on the situation that has developed recently.

    You’ll get a lot of agreement for that view here Numbers, including from me. Provided, of course, you replace “Koch brothers” by “Tom Steyer”.

    The Iraqis can stew in their own juice, since when Obama offered to maintain US forces in their country they answered “fuck off”.

  83. Rabz

    remind people of the quality ministers in the Abbott cabinet

    Thanks for that, Bear. What an uplifting tale – sounds like the Pink Batts equivalent of relationship counselling.

    Here’s hoping no one ends up dead.

  84. Not everyone here hates the Americans like you.

    The person quoted is an American.

    Go and have your afternoon nap, you senile old fool, numbers.

    Living up to your tag, again or still.

  85. Baldrick

    Knob-gobbling DOG alert!

  86. Infidel Tiger

    Can you believe the chutzpah of this Jon Fain character? Neil Mitchell and Faine had some sort of debate and this exchange took place:

    That is undeniably more than a blip, but the numbers remain extremely tight. The rest of the year promises to be a fascinating tussle – as was the Press Club encounter. An interesting discussion found some areas of common ground, but Faine’s insistence that he and Mitchell had different “values” had Mitchell scratching his head.

    “How are we enslaved to the advertisers?’’ he asked Faine.
    Faine: “Because that’s the reason your radio station exists.”

    Mitchell was having none of the implication that he was compromised by working for a commercial station, declaring: “Crap. We do not operate that way.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/radio-waves-midyear-ratings-roundup-20140617-zsafr.html#ixzz353qtlp3W

  87. Bruce of Newcastle

    “How are we enslaved to the advertisers?’’ he asked Faine.
    Faine: “Because that’s the reason your radio station exists.”

    Easily fixed. It works for SBS for example. I’d really like ABC’s Jon Faine doing voice overs for car companies and male-health services.

    Would save taxpayers like me about half the ABC budget too.

  88. Armadillo

    strap on my pistol and gird up my sword and ride into battle yet again.

    FMD nUmbers, how old is this demented leftie you quote? Are sure he hasn’t got Iraq confused with an old John Wayne movie?

  89. JC

    Hahahahahahahahah renewballs sure look like the answer.

    Lost in all the media hoopla about President Obama’s recent announcement of EPA carbon emission regulations was this news that coal was in fact the fastest-growing fossil fuel globally in 2013. That’s right: despite all of the hundreds of billions of dollars in government subsidies for renewable fuels spent in the United States, Germany, Spain, France and myriad other countries over the last 40 years, and despite all of the hyperbolic rhetoric and goofy signage deployed by the professional protest crowd that makes up most of our climate alarmist population, the use of coal grew at a faster pace in 2013 than any other fossil fuel.

    There is a very valid and important reason for this that professional alarmists like Bill McKibben and Al Gore studiously ignore: countries need abundant supplies of affordable energy in order for their economies to grow. The United States is fortunate to have a scalable alternative to coal, thanks to the massive new supplies of shale natural gas that have been unlocked in recent years by advancing technology. Our country can afford to force the retirement of older coal-fired power generation thanks to the existence of this abundant, affordable, and most importantly, scalable alternative.

    Globally, we currently see a different story. Across the world, no source of fuel for use in power generation is more abundant or affordable than coal. That is reality, and until that reality changes, not much else about the global energy mix will change.

    And here we get to the main challenge climate alarmists face: how do we replace the energy sources they propose to eliminate via regulation or outright government bans? McKibben talks about eliminating virtually all fossil fuel usage within the next few decades, yet the recently released BP Global Energy Outlook projects that, by 2035, fossil fuels will make up an 81% share of the world’s total energy mix, barely down from 86% in 2012. Natural gas usage will rise, coal and oil usage will fall, but taken in total, fossil fuels will still power most of the earth.

    Renewables, other than hydroelectric, would gain from their current 2% of the mix to 7%. Indeed, even that projection seems somewhat optimistic where renewables are concerned, given that their share of the global energy mix has not increased at all since 1998, despite all the massive government subsidy efforts around the world.

    Promoters of renewables have for decades talked about how nebulous leaps in technology that would make their preferred projects competitive in the marketplace are just around the corner, but that corner seems to be more of an unending, gradual curve. Meanwhile, governments in developed nations like Spain and Germany that have in recent years embarked on massive subsidy and mandate programs designed to artificially increase market share for renewable fuel sources find themselves today in budgetary crises due to overspending and facing furious publics tired of paying hyper-inflated utility bills. Both countries recently announced they are now backing away from their subsidy and mandate regimes, with Germany somewhat ironically now encouraging more coal-fired generation to be built.

    As mentioned above, countries must have abundant and affordable energy to grow their economies. While natural gas is price competitive with coal in the United States, the rest of the world is not so fortunate. Thus, coal becomes the choice in these other countries.

    Nowhere is the alarmist conundrum more evident than when discussing what they propose developing nations do in the future to secure the energy sources necessary to have any hope of moving their own people out of poverty. McKibben openly talks about the need to end economic growth as a goal, and then embellishes his central concept with a lot of distracting, flowery language about the need to make growth “more local”, and other nonsense that no economist actually believes.

    Let’s be clear here: The reality is that economic growth – fueled by abundant, affordable energy – has moved billions of human beings out of poverty over the past 150 years, and it is the only real hope developing nations have of moving their own billions of human beings out of their existing poverty in the coming 150 years. This is simply not a truly arguable point.

    Neither McKibben nor anyone else in the alarmist community can offer a sensible answer to how renewables can facilitate that growth once they have succeeded in eliminating fossil fuels. What we get instead is coded language about leaps in technology that never seem to come, conserving energy and altering our excessive lifestyles that, when boiled down, essentially mean that we have to all just get used to living in a world without economic growth.

    To this point, the alarmists have been able to float along without having to address these pressing questions in any real way thanks to an utter lack of curiosity on the part of most news reporters and editors. The next time Mr. McKibben is asked a tough question by a news reporter will be the first time that has happened.

    The Manhattan Institute’s Robert Bryce, in a great piece in the Wall Street Journal, did the math on what it would take for wind energy just to keep up with global growth in energy demand:

    Merely to keep pace with the global growth in electricity demand would require the installation of about 280,000 megawatts of new wind-energy capacity every year. According to several academic studies, the areal power density of wind energy—that is, the amount of power that can be derived from a given amount of land—is about one watt per square meter. This means that installing the requisite additional wind capacity would require covering about 280,000 square kilometers (108,000 square miles of land)—an area nearly the size of Italy—with wind turbines, every year.

    Things don’t get any more feasible with solar:

    What would be required if we relied on solar energy to keep up with expected growth in electricity demand? Let’s look at Germany, which has more solar capacity than any other country, about 33,000 megawatts. In 2012 those solar facilities produced 28 terawatt-hours of electricity. Thus the world would have to install about 16 times as much photovoltaic capacity as Germany’s entire installed base, and it would have to do so every year.

    Again, that is just to keep up with demand growth, in addition to having to replace all of our existing fossil fuel and nuclear power plants. There are only so many land masses the size of Italy to be dedicated to renewable energy before we begin to run out. Yet, no one in the American news media wants to pose these very real, pressing questions to McKibben and his fellow alarmists.

    But the questions remain, and the conundrum is very real. How do we replace 86% of the world’s energy mix without forcing everyone to live in abject poverty? At this time, no one, including Messrs. Gore and McKibben, has any real, viable answer.

  90. Bruce of Newcastle

    Billionaire Michael Bloomberg’s business news website tells social security recipients how to better suck on the Federal teat:

    How to Boost Your Social Security Check by 76%

    The left, including Bloomberg, are bonkers.

  91. Di

    Shorten has asked the same 3 questions all week.

    Censure motion now.

    I thought the really interesting thing about QT today was the sense that the LNP are just about at the end of their tether. The ALP have script…that’s it – just a script.

    The booing & catcalling whilst Pine was reading the letter from the mature age student, illustrated just how far removed the ALP are from the taxpayers of this country.

    This together with Abbott’s responses to the PPL this week – why should normal workers not be entitled to what the Public Service & you yourself are entitled to – this needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

    The ALP is a bankrupt party – they have nothing.

  92. twostix

    If he gets himself shot down and taken prisoner again, well, you know what? F**k him, leave him to the enemy because frankly his hate and bile and raging insanity have done more damage to this country than Bowe Bergdahl ever did.

    - This hate and bile filled raging insanity brought to you by the Projectatron V2.3.

    Projectatron: allowing leftists to project their inner hate and tortured pathologies onto everyone else since 2003.

  93. Rabz

    So, instead of repealing the R/G/R legislative change as soon as possible after being elected, these utterly absurd, freedom hating, statist numpties are still faffing about releasing useless discussion papers and referring to the thieving of money from peoples’ bank accounts as “arrangements relating to the transfer of unclaimed bank accounts and life insurance policies to the Government through the Australian Securities and Investment Commission”.

    Just fix it, you fucking idiots.

  94. tom

    The next time Mr. McKibben is asked a tough question by a news reporter will be the first time that has happened.

    There’s your problem right there.

    The press historically protected the public interest. Now they’re barracking for and protecting the thieves of the common wealth.

  95. Grigory M

    Good to see Credlin has got weird, religious nutjob Kevin Andrews out doing plenty of media today to remind people of the quality ministers in the Abbott cabinet.

    What an uplifting tale – sounds like the Pink Batts equivalent of relationship counselling.

    Nice to see Kevin out and about promoting the family business – gifted $200M in the Budget. Leaves the Rudd family business favours in the shade.

  96. .

    Abbott and Hockey are supporters of stealing money in bank accounts. This is why they won’t repeal.

    All those in favour of confiscating core deposits that are a backbone of stability in our banking system…raise your right hand.

  97. Mark from Melbourne

    @anne

    Naïve.

    If there are Islamic persons in Bendigo who wish to worship and who have been legally admitted to this country (or have been born here), then surely – subject to all sorts of planning provisions, which seem at first glance to have been applied in this case – why should they not be allowed to build a place of worship simply on the grounds that they are Islamic?

    Happy to have them denied for any genuine reason (traffic, noise). Happy for Australia to decide that we won’t take any more Islamics (or types of Islamics, for the matter of that) if that is what we choose.

    Not happy to support what seems the blatant discrimation against a certain religion as practiced by legal residents.

    “First they came…”

  98. James in Melbourne

    Hahahahahahahahah renewballs sure look like the answer.

    Where does that come from, JC?

  99. Andrew

    Tony Abbott is a particular embarrassment, unilaterally tripling our carbon emissions target while US President Barack Obama reduces America’s by a third.

    To suggest the Kenyan cut US emissions targets by 1/3 requires the assumption that the US is zero emissions in everything it does except electricity generation. No cars, farming, people breathing, heating oil – and that 100% of its power is coal-driven. The Kenyan’s target applies to coal generation – nothing else. So that’s just a ridiculous lie. (If only there was a Fact Checking Unit somewhere that could pull her up on this. Or some kind of Meeja Watching unit that watched stuff written by the meeja.)

    The claim that Abbott666 tripled our emission targets is interesting though. Considering both parties appear on the face of it to have a target of -5E.

    It seems she’s referring to some secret much more severe (and therefore economy-destroying) targets buried in the CEF legislation – and indeed, the corrupt CEF modelling by Treasury uses a -80E scenario. $1tr would be the bill for that one. Interesting that one of the Regressives is openly admitting to that – normally they like to keep these “surprises” for when it’s too late to do anything.

  100. Denise

    johanna
    #1352602, posted on June 19, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    Denise
    #1352184, posted on June 19, 2014 at 9:00 am

    Benny Hinn is about as authentic as a three dollar note. He’s one of the certain men who’ve crept in unawares who through covetousness make merchandise of gullible undiscerning Christians.

    I once caught part of this scumbag’sprogram where he claimed to be curing things like cancer and diabetes on stage, and was soliciting funds on the strength of it. It made me so angry I actually complained in writing – first to the channel (who flipped me off), and then to ACMA.

    Three months later I got a long and incomprehensible reply from ACMA, the upshot of which was that there is nothing in what he was doing that breaches any of the gazillion pages of legislation, regulations and guidelines that govern broadcasting in this country.

    Yep, outright fraud on TV is perfectly legal. So why do we need the gazillion pages of bumph? Why, so that a throwaway line by Alan Jones on the radio can force him to be sent to re-education camp, of course.

    Disgraceful.

    I agree. He’s actually been caught out making false prophecies like people were going to be healed and then they died because they stopped taking their medication. He has settled a lot of claims out of court – all paid for by peabrained ‘Christians’ who probably go without food to sponsor this ‘true man of God’. The Bible is full of warnings against charlatans, but the world is sadly full of people who are happy to surrender their thinking to con men. His ex-wife was no better; cavorting round the stage telling people they needed a Holy Ghost enema right up their %#@ before doing a face plant. Very dignified indeed.

    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

    I’m glad you complained. It’s typical of the MSM to have him on, he’s one of ‘them’.

  101. johanna

    I agree, Mark. Despite the bile directed at every person on the planet born into a Muslim family by some here, I have friends who happen to be Muslims, and they are about as much of a threat as Presbyterians. They have as much right to a place of worship as anyone else, subject, as you say, to all of the usual requirements.

    It is illogical to say that depriving people of a public place of worship will affect terrorism and anti-social behaviour. Those who are so inclined will just meet up in private instead.

    If there are genuine concerns about this development, fair enough. I imagine that they would apply to a big evangelical church opening up down the street as well. But opposing it just because you don’t like a particular religion is a very different, and anti-liberty, thing. Who’s next?

  102. Bruce of Newcastle

    Where does that come from, JC?

    Small trick, James, copy the first line to Google. They see all:

    The Unasked Climate Question: How To Replace 86% Of The World’s Energy Mix?

  103. Armadillo

    I’m struggling to understand Bolt’s link to Kimberley Kitching (he has her on his TV show a fair bit). Are they friends, or what’s the go?

    It comes as a close ally of Ms Jackson, Marco Bolano, has been subject to a police report after being accused of threatening, harassing and spitting at an opponent from the HSU outside the royal commission on union corruption.
    Kimberley Kitching, an HSU employee in Victoria and former candidate for Labor preselection, reported Mr Bolano to NSW Police. Mr Bolano rejected the claim.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/royal-commission-kathy-jackson-unable-to-explain-how-slush-fund-payments-were-spent-20140619-zsezw.html#ixzz354Jbcn7U

    And also this from an earlier linked story at Kangaroo Court.

    Mr Landeryou and his wife Kimberley Kitching who are both good friends of Bill Shorten are well-known for their smear tactics. So much so that when Kimberley ran for Labor Party pre-selection last year in Julia Gillard’s old seat of Lalor other candidates were scared off. It said in the Melbourne paper The Age last year where it quoted Stephen Mayne:

    “He said Kitching had co-ordinated a “disgracefully negative campaign” on behalf of lord mayoral candidate Peter McMullin in 2008. And he said that quality Labor women were reluctant to nominate in Lalor “because they fear the smear that always tends to follow the Landeryou-Kitching duo around”.”

  104. Andrew

    Even lefties on the ABC are admitting that Scott Morrison was right on stopping boats. Shocked!

  105. Grigory M

    I’m glad you complained. It’s typical of the MSM to have him on, he’s one of ‘them’.

    Denise – I agree entirely with all you and Johanna have said about Hinn. While channel-flicking this morning, I was surprised to see that he is still on TV here. My reason for commenting about him was because of the “cholesterol is fine, statins are bad” views he and his program guest were promoting.

  106. lotocoti

    An Iraq veteran writes on the situation that has developed recently.

    Jesse Macbeth has a new writing gig.

  107. Pete of Perth

    Baldrick,

    This toothpaste used to be available in Singapore, they have since renamed it Darlie: Darkie Toothpaste

  108. Pete of Perth

    Also changed the logo to a white guy

  109. johanna

    I’m glad you complained. It’s typical of the MSM to have him on, he’s one of ‘them’.

    Denise, one of the reasons that ACMA let him off the hook was that Benny Hinn’s shows are paid presentations – in other words, just ads by another name. So, they argued, it was not really covered by the rules relating to public broadcasting. This pathetic sophistry in the face of outright fraud and ripping people off made me sick to the stomach. And he is on most days of the week, for half an hour at a time.

    OTOH, a 15 second statement by Alan Jones on the radio is of huge concern, and requiring the imposition of sanctions.

    It is eerily reminiscent of the ABC’s refusal to admit that the Chaser “boys” segment about Mr Kenny was worthy of concern, until they were dragged into court on a hiding to nothing.

  110. twostix

    I have friends who happen to be Muslims, and they are about as much of a threat as Presbyterians.

    LOL

    All over the world Muslims make a major push murdering thousands, securing countries and implementing Islamic law anywhere and everywhere they can and…surprise, surprise! All of sudden squishy “moderates” suddenlyall have wonderfully benign muslim “friends” again and feel it necessary to tell everyone who wonderful these imaginary friends are.

    It’s like clockwork. Muslims be Muslims and western moderates suddenly feel the need to safetly turn them into impotent Presbyterians.

  111. johanna

    twostix, it’s like saying that all Christians are firebreathing fundamentalists, and just as dishonest.

    My friends are like nominal Anglicans who go to church at Christmas and Easter, if then. Most of any population are not passionate believers, but hold such beliefs as they have because of who their parents are.

    Bigotry is repellent to anyone who reserves the right to make individual judgements. Or, is tarring billions of people with one brush because of their religion acceptable in your view?

  112. Bruce of Newcastle

    it’s like saying that all Christians are firebreathing fundamentalists, and just as dishonest.

    Sorry Johanna its not. To commit mass murder the Crusaders had to ignore the Bible. The ISIS kiddies only have to do what the Koran says. “Moderate Muslims” can only be moderate by ignoring their own text. Which is why the current ‘Islamic Reformation’ is producing the opposite of the 16thC Christian equivalent.

    There is a bias between the two doctrines. Unless you acknowledge this you cannot understand the problem.

  113. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Not happy to support what seems the blatant discrimation against a certain religion as practiced by legal residents.

    Before getting to that point, or making comment on the matter, I’d ask two questions.

    1. Who is funding the Mosque and what is that funding’s structure?

    2. Is the mosque ‘oversized’ for the local populace?

    If teh answers are 1. Saudi and Gulf States Governments and 2. yes, then you are looking at a wahabist-salafist influence which is smply not wanted here, full stop.

    Because that is a ‘conquest mosque’ (their description, not mine) signalling an intent to conquer the area for the ummah. It has schools etc attached in order to ‘re-educate’ the surviving infidels after the conquest. In wahabist and salafist thought processes, this is a base, and every inch of land from which you can hear the muzzien’s ghastly screechings is now permanently and irrevocably islamic territory.

    It does not matter what you or I think of the rationality of their view (I think they are so wrong-headed as to be hilarious), that’s their view and the associated intent.

    I might also add that this is the reason such mosques are not allowed in malaysia – a muslim country – becuase they are wahabist and salafist mosques and they hate those bastards.

  114. Notafan

    Can Christians build churches in Muslim countries?
    Are mosques in Australia being used to recruit jihadists?
    Do we know if the muslims in Bendigo will be ‘moderate’
    If the head of Australia Post was a Presbyterian would there be outrage that 2 million that rightly belongs to taxpayers is being donated to a Presbyterian museum that is effectively controlled by his family?

  115. JC

    LOL, thew Argies blinked. Billionaire, Paul Singer should go straight to heaven.

    Argentina finds itself at the place it tried to avoid for a decade: the negotiating table with billionaire Paul Singer, and potentially all the holders of defaulted debt the government likes to call “vultures.”

    Less than 24 hours after the economy minister detailed plans to skirt the U.S. court order obligating Argentina to repay Singer $1.5 billion, a government lawyer said the nation will seek a deal with the hedge fund manager. A rally in the debt Argentina had refused to honor signals creditors, whose potential claims Citigroup Inc. estimates could be as high as $16 billion, expect to get repaid.

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-06-18/billionaire-foe-gets-long-awaited-call-to-talk-argentina-credit
    Almost 100 years of these rats defaulting on their debt.

  116. tom

    God, this is a great blog.

    And, no, I will not deconstruct that sentence/my culture.

  117. Gab

    Fight, you bastards. Peace is for the infidels.

  118. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Bruce of Newcastle:

    The Iraqis can stew in their own juice, since when Obama offered to maintain US forces in their country they answered “fuck off”.

    Actually, it was not like that. Max Boot did the research in October 2011 and here’s what he found:

    The popular explanation is that the Iraqis refused to provide legal immunity for U.S. troops if they are accused of breaking Iraq’s laws. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki himself said: “When the Americans asked for immunity, the Iraqi side answered that it was not possible. The discussions over the number of trainers and the place of training stopped. Now that the issue of immunity was decided and that no immunity to be given, the withdrawal has started.”

    But Mr. Maliki and other Iraqi political figures expressed exactly the same reservations about immunity in 2008 during the negotiation of the last Status of Forces Agreement. Indeed those concerns were more acute at the time because there were so many more U.S. personnel in Iraq—nearly 150,000, compared with fewer than 50,000 today. So why was it possible for the Bush administration to reach a deal with the Iraqis but not for the Obama administration?

    Quite simply it was a matter of will: President Bush really wanted to get a deal done, whereas Mr. Obama did not. Mr. Bush spoke weekly with Mr. Maliki by video teleconference. Mr. Obama had not spoken with Mr. Maliki for months before calling him in late October to announce the end of negotiations. Mr. Obama and his senior aides did not even bother to meet with Iraqi officials at the United Nations General Assembly in September.

    The administration didn’t even open talks on renewing the Status of Forces Agreement until this summer, a few months before U.S. troops would have to start shuttering their remaining bases to pull out by Dec. 31. The previous agreement, in 2008, took a year to negotiate.

    The recent negotiations were jinxed from the start by the insistence of State Department and Pentagon lawyers that any immunity provisions be ratified by the Iraqi parliament—something that the U.S. hadn’t insisted on in 2008 and that would be almost impossible to get today. In many other countries, including throughout the Arab world, U.S. personnel operate under a Memorandum of Understanding that doesn’t require parliamentary ratification. Why not in Iraq? Mr. Obama could have chosen to override the lawyers’ excessive demands, but he didn’t.

    Also

    As Glenn Reynolds noted late last year, “Ideology required that the Iraq War be a failure, even if it needed a nunc pro tunc effort to make it so.”

    This disaster was delberately created by Chimpster H Preshizzle (Paco™) to meet his own agenda.

    Defeat was snatched from the jaws of victory deliberately by the Chimpster-Shizz (Paco™).

    If 15,000 troops had been left under a 2008 style SOFA this would resemble Korea – prosperity on one side of the line, a dystopian hell on the other beloved only by socialists and greenfilth, ISIS would not have poked a nose over the border as it would have been blown off. ALL the blood spilled is on the hands of the the Chimpster-Shizz (Paco™). Every. Single. Drop. Of. It.

  119. Aristogeiton

    twostix
    #1352792, posted on June 19, 2014 at 6:03 pm
    I have friends who happen to be Muslims, and they are about as much of a threat as Presbyterians.

    LOL

    All over the world Muslims make a major push murdering thousands, securing countries and implementing Islamic law anywhere and everywhere they can and…surprise, surprise! All of sudden squishy “moderates” suddenlyall have wonderfully benign muslim “friends” again and feel it necessary to tell everyone who wonderful these imaginary friends are.

    It’s like clockwork. Muslims be Muslims and western moderates suddenly feel the need to safetly turn them into impotent Presbyterians.

    You really are a fucking prize hypocrite. Here’s you raging against Number’s anti-Bush post earlier today:

    twostix
    #1352704, posted on June 19, 2014 at 4:16 pm
    [...]
    - This hate and bile filled raging insanity brought to you by the Projectatron V2.3.

    Projectatron: allowing leftists to project their inner hate and tortured pathologies onto everyone else since 2003.

    You were armpit deep in supportive posts earlier in the thread where calls were made to execute all members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    I know that you are a dimwitted, illiberal bigot; I’ll try yet again to explain it to you using one of the liberty quotes from this site:

    “Strictly, libertarianism is only a philosophy of government. It does not offer a vision of the good or moral life. A libertarian can, in theory, hold any social belief they like. All they have to do is oppose the government forcing those beliefs on others.”
    (Chris Berg)

  120. johanna

    Can Christians build churches in Muslim countries?

    So, we should be taking our cues from what is or is not allowed in other countries?

    Surely what we are about is forming our own views, not playing tit for tat irrespective of the merits like kids in the schoolyard.

  121. Baldrick

    Perpetual Motion
    #1352796, posted on June 19, 2014 at 6:13 pm
    LOL. #BRINGBACKOURHUMVEE

    Well that’s gonna earn someone a very stern and sustained wedgie once Obambi gets his hands on them. Either that or a terse text.

  122. The Iraqis can stew in their own juice, since when Obama offered to maintain US forces in their country they answered “fuck off”.

    nice.
    So these victims and their loved ones can stew in their own juice then?
    So the civilians who will be tortured and killed can ‘stew in their own juices’ because some western newspaper ran a poll?
    Char. Ming.

  123. So, we should be taking our cues from what is or is not allowed in other countries?

    Surely what we are about is forming our own views, not playing tit for tat irrespective of the merits like kids in the schoolyard.

    Johanna, it’s not childishness. It’s a serious principle: freedom to practise religion is NOT granted in Islamic countries, because Islamic countries are not like ‘Christian countries’.

    Christian countries contain a small practising population, a large nominal population, and guarantee religious freedom and equality to all their citizens, regardless of faith. They may have a state church, but that just means they get a slice of the taxation action. The state church doesn’t get to make the laws.

    Islamic countries are just that: Islamic. They have Islamic law that has a double standard for Muslims and infidels; they do not guarantee anything like religious freedom and equality for their citizens, and yes, the religion actually gets to make the laws – in fact, it IS the laws.

    So the issue of the lack of Christian churches in Muslim countries is a very big red flag for allowing Islamic dominance of any kind in any part of Australia. They do not have the same ideas about freedom and equality as we do, and they are not backward in coming forward about this.

  124. Bruce of Newcastle

    “When the Americans asked for immunity, the Iraqi side answered that it was not possible. The discussions over the number of trainers and the place of training stopped. Now that the issue of immunity was decided and that no immunity to be given, the withdrawal has started.”

    Mk50, I do understand English. The translation of the above passage into vernacular requires seven letters. Which I used.

    What Maliki did not fully understand is that Obama wanted precisely this response, so he could have an excuse. He is doing exactly the same thing in Afghanistan for the same reason: he, for ideological reasons, wants out. Completely. The only thing he recognises as a constraint is domestic politics.

  125. Aristogeiton

    Philippa Martyr
    #1352838, posted on June 19, 2014 at 6:44 pm
    [...]
    [Muslim countries] do not have the same ideas about freedom and equality as we do, and they are not backward in coming forward about this.

    Hilarious. They seem to have the same views about religious freedom as you do.

  126. A Lurker

    Your average Anglican, Presbyterian, Baptist or Catholic church in Australia isn’t usually a breeding ground for hard-line fanatics, anti-Australian sentiment, misogyny or terrorism, so there is simply no equivalence there. However if you were to accuse certain churches of wandering away from the Bible to preach Gaia-worship – then you might have a point – I mean they might be deluded, but I wouldn’t classify them as dangerous.

    As for the mosque – I’d normally not consider Bendigo as an Islamic community, and this data from 2011 indicates that Bendigo is primarily an English-speaking Christian city with the majority of non-Australians coming from countries other than Islamic ones.

    So unless a truckload of Islamic refugee-types have decided to call Bendigo home, it’s hard to understand why that city has been chosen – unless it is for the purposes that MK50 has outlined above.

  127. DrBeauGan

    The great majority of muslims are muslim for the same reason the great majority of christians are christian, they were brought up in the faith and lack the combination of brain and moral fortitude to reject the mumbo-jumbo. Also, good people take the good bits of a religion and ignore the bad bits while arseholes do it the other war around. And yes, there are good bits in Islam and bad bits in the bible.

    If the god of Abraham had ordered me to sacrifice my firstborne son, I’d have told Him to sod off. Abraham didn’t.

  128. Aristogeiton

    You lot are hilarious. It’s all day “small Government, private property and freedom!” (propositions with which I agree), but add Islam into the mix and it’s “more government, no property and no freedom”. Embarrassing.

  129. Grigory M

    What Maliki did not fully understand is that Obama wanted precisely this response, so he could have an excuse.

    Correct.

    He is doing exactly the same thing in Afghanistan for the same reason: he, for ideological reasons, wants out. Completely. The only thing he recognises as a constraint is domestic politics.

    Correct.

  130. Fisky

    So the issue of the lack of Christian churches in Muslim countries is a very big red flag for allowing Islamic dominance of any kind in any part of Australia. They do not have the same ideas about freedom and equality as we do, and they are not backward in coming forward about this.

    It would be wrong and sectarian to ban mosques in Australia, but I think it may be wise to ban all Saudi and Iranian funding of mosques in Australia. You are free to build a mosque, but you are not free to accept money from regimes that do not allow the construction of temples and churches.

  131. .

    Presbyterians?

    I fear for our liberties from athiest ex Methodists – I present exhibit A, Nicola Roxon.

  132. Fisky

    Surely what we are about is forming our own views, not playing tit for tat irrespective of the merits like kids in the schoolyard.

    Tit-for-tat is a rather dumbed down way of expressing the ideas of “negotiation” and “leverage”. If we want to effect change in countries that ban church construction, then a feasible way to do this is to prohibit those countries from funding proselytism of their own faith (such as Wahhabism or Shia Islam). That will send the message that they are totally hypocritical and will not be allowed to seal off their own countries from outside ideas, without affecting the liberties of non-extremist Muslims in Australia.

    And any Muslim who insists on being allowed to take funds from Saudi Arabia or Iran is an extremist.

  133. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Philippa is correct. I have seen senior mullahs laughing their heads off at the absolute insanity of the sugegstion of the idea of ‘separation of church and state’. They simply did not have the worldview to accept that the idea was anything but the ravings of a lunatic, let alone that it’s actually a western norm. It’was like trying to explain the smell of the colour 9 to a deaf, dumb, blind man with no sense of smell.

    They simply lacked the worldview, concepts and language to get to grips with it. They could not even discuss it. No concepts or words to do so. The Indonesian mullahs present could understand it and discuss it in Indonesian and English (and Dutch) but not in Arabic. And the seniors spoke only arabic.

  134. DrBeauGan

    I agree, dot. I fear loony lefties far more than mad mullahs. In Oz, the LLs have the numbers.

  135. Baldrick

    New fred is now open for business …

  136. Grigory M

    Fuck off, Ari – you tosser.

  137. Bruce of Newcastle

    So these victims and their loved ones can stew in their own juice then?

    Aussiepundit – Responsibility to protect is a lefty concept which they breach more than they uphold. Like in Rwanda. I prefer Heb 13:17 myself. As I said to Mk50 just now Maliki did not offer what Obama ‘wanted’ so Obama was given the excuse he was always after – to get out, period. If Maliki really wanted the US to remain in Iraq he could have negotiated it. He did not. Therefore it is to Maliki you should direct your ire.

    If he wants help he can always ask the UN. Which he hasn’t, and won’t, since it is political suicide. But if he was really concerned about his people he would ask for real help. So far he’s not done so.

  138. .

    It would be wrong and sectarian to ban mosques in Australia, but I think it may be wise to ban all Saudi and Iranian funding of mosques in Australia. You are free to build a mosque, but you are not free to accept money from regimes that do not allow the construction of temples and churches.

    I’d wish the Greens and activist groups with foreign oil funding would be shut down in a similar way in their scurrilous anti coal, anti CSG and anti shale campaigns…

  139. Aristogeiton

    .
    #1352852, posted on June 19, 2014 at 6:57 pm
    Presbyterians?

    I fear for our liberties from athiest ex Methodists – I present exhibit A, Nicola Roxon.

    This has all been done to death in other threads. I’m surprised at Philippa, who I thought was a Catholic and a historian. Persecution of Catholics in England was justified using the very same logic used by cohenite, twostix and other assorted nutters (see Blackstone, quoted in previous thread to much mockery). There was the Papists Act 1778 and various Acts of Uniformity before then. This is not novel, and you would think that we had learned better by now, having the benefit of history.

  140. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    I have no problem with people building mosques in Australia (that’s my culture speaking).

    So long as they raise the money themselves, and not one cent of foreign money from government ours or anyone elses – especially anyone elses – from any ‘foreign islamic charity’ (all foreign government agencies) or ‘charitable individuals’ AKA launderers of foreign government money is permitted.

    If the muslims in Bendigo want a mosque, go for it. Let them commence their local fundraising to do so.

  141. Fisky

    This article says a great deal about what kind of person would join the Muslim Brotherhood, and the solution is not novel and already being applied by the Sisi government – execute as many of them as possible.

    Punishment rape in Egypt by the Muslim Brotherhood

    Brotherhood sympathizers recently went on a sexual assault and rape spree in Egypt as a way of “getting even” with those women who dared to celebrate the presidential victory of Abdel Fatteh al-Sisi — the former army chief who overthrew Muslim Brotherhood rule.

    On June 8, when tens of thousands of Egyptians congregated in Tahrir Square to celebrate Sisi’s inauguration, dozens of women were sexually assaulted and many more harassed. According to a statement later released by the Ministry of Interior, seven men between the ages of 15 and 49 were arrested for sexually assaulting “a number of women.”

  142. Anne

    Mark from Melbourne.

    Global Islamisation is incompatible with freedom, democracy, mini skirts, crisp white wine and FREEDOM!

    You should read up on Sharia Law. You’ll probably be living under it before you die.

    …and I do mean under it.

  143. .

    What a load of shit Anne.

    Be scared to death by something or be dominated by it.

    Kids talk about ghost stories like this.

  144. tom

    Dot, you’re such a contrarian, you’re actually a fruitloop. Just as well we all love you.

  145. Gab

    Brotherhood sympathizers recently went on a sexual assault and rape spree in Egypt as a way of “getting even” with those women who dared to celebrate the presidential victory of Abdel Fatteh al-Sisi — the former army chief who overthrew Muslim Brotherhood rule.

    According to our Madge Morrison none of this would happen if there were more females in the Australian Army.

  146. Aussiepundit – Responsibility to protect is a lefty concept which they breach more than they uphold. Like in Rwanda. I prefer Heb 13:17 myself. As I said to Mk50 just now Maliki did not offer what Obama ‘wanted’ so Obama was given the excuse he was always after – to get out, period. If Maliki really wanted the US to remain in Iraq he could have negotiated it. He did not. Therefore it is to Maliki you should direct your ire.

    I wasn’t talking about ‘responsibility to protect’, I was talking about the callous aresholery of someone who would make a comment that Iraqis can ‘stew in their own juices’ in reference to the sudden hostile takeover by ISIS.

  147. Anne

    Dot, 7.22

    Be scared to death by something or be dominated by it.

    What does that mean Dot?

    If we are scared to death of something oughtn’t we try to prevent it from prevailing?

    This beast is coming and half the Western world is asleep.

  148. .

    Tom

    You think the idea of tolerating normal muslims and blowing the heads of fanatical ones is loopy.

    It’s what the West has been doing for decades if not centuries.

    Read Churchill for more.

  149. .

    This beast is coming and half the Western world is asleep.

    Big deal. Nearly all of those narcoleptic Westerners vote.

  150. jupes

    It’s what the West has been doing for decades if not centuries.

    True. However now we have invited the fuckers to live amongst us.

    That increases the degree of difficulty somewhat.

  151. Anne

    This beast is coming and half the Western world is asleep.

    Big deal. Nearly all of those narcoleptic Westerners vote.

    The same Westerners who have waved in Socialism the past decade or more?

    I’m trying to find an article for you Dot but I’m tired and you are uncharacteristically hysterical tonight.

    I’ll do it tomorrow.

  152. Bruce of Newcastle

    I wasn’t talking about ‘responsibility to protect’,

    Yes you were. Either we have a unilateral responsibility to protect people like the ones in line of fire of ISIS or we don’t. You very strongly implied we should be helping them despite their own government rejecting Western help on the ground. (Airstrikes can hardly help people in the clutches of ISIS, and could make things even worse for them).

    Can’t have it both ways. If the Iraqi authorities reject help then we can’t help…unless you subscribe to R2P, which I do not. I subscribe to all people being individually responsible to God for their actions, with those people given secular power being required to give an account. That is what I mean by stew in their own juice – Maliki and the Iraq parliament have the responsibility, not us. It’d be different if they asked for assistance – they have not for their own reasons.

  153. Denise

    Grigory M
    #1352781, posted on June 19, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    I’m glad you complained. It’s typical of the MSM to have him on, he’s one of ‘them’.

    Denise – I agree entirely with all you and Johanna have said about Hinn. While channel-flicking this morning, I was surprised to see that he is still on TV here. My reason for commenting about him was because of the “cholesterol is fine, statins are bad” views he and his program guest were promoting.

    Yep. I knew from all your other posts that you weren’t trying to get converts to Benny and Kenny (Copeland). These fellas get people off their meds and then when they get sick it’s secretly off to the most expensive hospitals around.

    But you know, there are so many mugs simply asking to be fleeced. That’s the thing that gets to me. And many churches are guilty of collabarating in this fraud. There was an accountant who after he retired, spent his life debunking these chaps, even wrote a foreword to a book called ‘The confusing world of Benny Hinn’ and the churches banned it and told their congregants not to read it. So they didn’t.

    B00942 – The Confusing World of Benny Hinn – Book …
    http://www.thebereancall.org/content/confusing-world-benny-hinn

    Foreword by Dave Hunt. From the back cover: … “The Confusing World of Benny Hinn stands as the definitive examination of the TV preacher bizarre theology.

  154. Denise

    johanna
    #1352789, posted on June 19, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    I’m glad you complained. It’s typical of the MSM to have him on, he’s one of ‘them’.

    Denise, one of the reasons that ACMA let him off the hook was that Benny Hinn’s shows are paid presentations – in other words, just ads by another name. So, they argued, it was not really covered by the rules relating to public broadcasting. This pathetic sophistry in the face of outright fraud and ripping people off made me sick to the stomach. And he is on most days of the week, for half an hour at a time.

    OTOH, a 15 second statement by Alan Jones on the radio is of huge concern, and requiring the imposition of sanctions.

    It is eerily reminiscent of the ABC’s refusal to admit that the Chaser “boys” segment about Mr Kenny was worthy of concern, until they were dragged into court on a hiding to nothing.

    Yes. Absolutely. Must say I’m always agreeably surprised by how much you know about the source of all these symptoms of postmodern decadence. The world needs very badly this sort of contextual commentary which, disappointingly, the Libs aren’t providing. It should be so easy for them to blow Labor out of the water, yet they refrain. ‘There is no discharge in this war…’ is something they don’t seem to realize.

  155. athiest ex Methodists

    Ooh, I dislike those athy ex-Methodists; the athier they are the more I dislike ’em.

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