Wednesday Forum: June 25, 2014

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  1. .

    The Fin is the most anti business business paper in the world.

    I’m shocked that anyone in the private sector still reads it.

  2. Gab

    Global Partnership for Education puts Julia Gillard in charge of $30 billion fund.

    LOL she’ll turn it into a $160 billion debt in two years.

    They deserve each other.

  3. nic

    Global Partnership for Education puts Julia Gillard in charge of $30 billion fund.

    They say you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear, but you can make a high paying career out of a few words.

  4. johanna

    Dot, there’s a fair degree of inertia in the continuing purchase of the Fin by businesses as well. As for the most anti-business business paper in the world, the UK Financial Times would give it a run for its money. They have former Fairfax luvvie Pilita Clark as their Environment Correspondent, and she’s mustard for glowbull warmening and terribly concerned about the impact of evil humans on Da Plannet.

  5. Baldrick

    Prez Obambi asks Congress for $500,000 to train and equip “appropriately vetted” Syrian rebels.

    Mr. Obama’s request calls for the Pentagon to “train and equip vetted elements of the Syrian armed opposition to help defend the Syrian people, stabilize areas under opposition control, facilitate the provision of essential services, counter terrorist threats and promote conditions for a negotiated settlement.”

    Can somebody explain what’s the difference between an “appropriately vetted” Islamist and a hard-line Jihadist?

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    Can somebody explain what’s the difference between an “appropriately vetted” Islamist and a hard-line Jihadist

    Yes. An appropriately vetted Islamist has standards. He will not use the weapons on American targets, he will only on-sell them to the hard-line Jihadist.

  7. Mr Rusty

    Global Partnership for Education puts Julia Gillard in charge of $30 billion fund.

    TLS has already ordered new print runs for The Communist Manifesto, The Female Eunuch and Rules for Radicals and purchased every copy of An Inconvenient Truth ready for shipping to every school in every corner of the globe.

  8. John of Perth

    half a billion to continue to openly support and train Islamist rebellion in Syria and they have the breathtaking hypocrisy to accuse Russia in Ukraine. They already trained the ISIS in Jordan and look what that lead to.

    Why hasn’t he been impeached yet…. the US has gone to levels of insanity in foreign and domestic policy. I swear if Teleprompter could find another policy to ruin the country further he would implement it immediately.

  9. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Fin is the most anti business business paper in the world.

    Nah, Bloomberg is that. Green as grass and twice as clueless. I look at it each day in wonder, but rarely do anything but check what the markets did.

    The wonder is that Bloomberg himself likes to say he’s a Republican.

  10. Token

    The Fin is the most anti business business paper in the world.

    Their financial / economics articles are too often so light weight that you wonder if the person is in 1st year of business school (let alone the editors & subs).

  11. Annie A

    Some entertainment while you wait…

    link

  12. Gab

    Mr. Obama’s request calls for the Pentagon to “train and equip vetted elements of the Syrian armed opposition to help defend the Syrian people, stabilize areas under opposition control, facilitate the provision of essential services, counter terrorist threats and promote conditions for a negotiated settlement.”

    Fast and Furious v2.0

  13. Tracey

    Tim Wilson is the interviewee on One Plus One tonight. SBS at 8:30.

  14. Cold-Hands

    It must be later than I thought- Media Watchdog is up for this week:

    ● Stop Press: Peter FitzSimons on God (the Other One)
    Can You Bear It?: Mark Scott on Clive Palmer; The Age on Tony Abbott; Hugh McDermott on Rebekah Brooks; John Hewson Dances with Dinosaurs
    MWD Exclusive: The Saturday Paper Censors Gerard Henderson
    MWD Updates: Prophecy and Analysis from Bob Ellis & Mike Carlton
    Nancy’s Five Paws Award: Paul Murray, Grace Collier & Chris Uhlmann All Score
    Live at the SMH with Sectarian Letter Writers & the Awesome (but not readily understandable) Elizabeth Farrelly
    Nancy’s Pick-of-the-Week: Mike Seccombe Steps Forward
    Great Media U-Turns of Our Time: Mark Latham on John Howard
    Correspondence: With a Little Help from Erik Jensen & Tom Westland (in defence of David Marr)

  15. nic

    Lol, this is worth a re-post from Hendo’s Media watchdog:

    ● THE FALSE PROPHET OF PALM BEACH – AN UPDATE

    How is Bob Ellis seeing the world through his crystal ball? Here’s how. This is the seer’s latest prophesy – which he handed down on his blog at 12.15 pm on 25 June, around pre-lunch drinks time.

    The Palmer-Abbott shakedown inconclusive. Outside chance J. [Julie] Bishop will force a spill when Abbott reveals to the Ministry the abject surrender [on the carbon tax] he has in mind and her old ally Turnbull comes back as Prime Minister by Saturday.

    Wonderful. Just wonderful as Saturday approaches.

    ● THE PHILOSOPHER KING OF WHALE BEACH – AN UPDATE

    Here is Mike (“I’ll-pour-the-gin”) Carlton’s tweet sent out on Wednesday 25 June at 6.51 pm around pre-dinner drinks time:

    Cute of Palmer to front with Al Gore, though. It will drive the climate change deniers at News Corpse to an apoplectic frenzy. Just watch.

    Your man Carlton seemed unaware that Clive Palmer announced that he would support the Coalition’s repeal of the carbon tax.

    Yet more Northern Beaches’ wonder.

  16. .

    Bloomberg at least has the market data as its core business, Bloomberg as a paper is nonsense.

    Forbes is about the only sensible, business friendly paper.

    Only them, Vanity Fair or openly libertarian things like Reason or Mises.org are worth reading for market and policy commentary.

  17. .

    Yet more Northern Beaches’ wonder.

    I somewhat resemble that remark, not everyone who has lived there is a bloody idiot. I never developed the “northern beaches twang”. I also didn’t live there as a kid and didn’t smoke herculean amounts of dope when I was 15.

  18. H B Bear

    Australia’s most widely published geriatric care provider, La Tingle, takes time out from mashing pumpkin and cutting up steak into bite size pieces long enough to put pen to paper. Unfortunately, her wrongologist tendencies kick in again,

    A triumph! Laura Tingle on the Clive & Al show on The Australian Financial Review website, Wednesday:

    CLIVE Palmer’s stunning wedging of not just Tony Abbott but Labor and the Greens means climate change remains on the table as an issue for the next election.

    Tingle’s colleague Neil Chenoweth tweeting his approval:

    BRILLIANT piece by (Laura Tingle) on the Palmer gambit.

    Even among Fauxfacts talentless hacks that have yet to be made redundant and the J school kiddies, Chenoweth is particularly useless.

  19. Infidel Tiger

    I love these taps and just assumed they were either German or American:

    Zip Tap inventor debuts on BRW Rich List.

  20. Cold-Hands

    If this DARPA project has been declassified, you wonder how much better are the ones they’ve still got up their sleeve…

  21. MsDolittle

    and didn’t smoke herculean amounts of dope when I was 15.

    So only a small amount at 16, then? Bet you inhaled.

  22. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Pickering does have a way with words!

    The only real losers from yesterday’s charade was Christine Milne and her Green comrades. How did they feel watching their messiah play stinky finger with the devil?

    Abbott got what he wanted, Clive got what he wanted and Al went home with another $200,000 he can use on his carbon trading scam.

  23. MsDolittle

    Zip taps – what about my ritual, staring out the window, thinking about nothing as the billy boils?

  24. jumpnmcar

    Cold hands
    And we have no idea where M370 is.

  25. nerblnob

    Has anyone commented on India ratifying nuclear treaty? Good times for uranium miners then?

  26. JC

    Blob

    There’s tons of enriched uranium around and won’t make a difference I reckon.

  27. nerblnob

    JC, so, some modest increase in exports to India, but no boom? I don’t know that market at all.

  28. Baldrick

    Best wishes to all Muslims in Australia and around the world for this holy month of Ramadan – The Australian Labor Party.

    Christians and Jews are reminded to stay indoors.

  29. Grigory M

    Yet more Northern Beaches’ Boob Ellis wonder.

    FIFY, nic – he’s not the exemplar – no need to diss the Northern Beaches.

  30. Steve D

    “Where’s the Kaboom? There’s Supposed to Be an Earth-Shattering Kaboom!”

    ~ Greenies following many use of peaceful use of nuclear energy by India?

  31. Snoopy

    Zip Tap inventor debuts on BRW Rich List.

    Love his face. You can see the character of the man right there. Thanks IT.

  32. notafan

    Mr. Obama’s request calls for the Pentagon to “train and equip vetted elements of the Syrian armed opposition to help defend the Syrian people, stabilize areas under opposition control, facilitate the provision of essential services, counter terrorist threats and promote conditions for a negotiated settlement.”

    And what happened to the last lot? Oh that’s right ISIS murdered the Free Syrians and took their equipment.

  33. nic

    FIFY, nic – he’s not the exemplar – no need to diss the Northern Beaches.

    Fixed it for Hendo, Grigory, his words.

  34. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Hey YEAH!!

    The 2014 Ramadan Bombathon‘s (TROP™) about to kick off!

    Sweet.

    I reckon the lads will do better than last year’s score.

    For 2014 I am going for

    342 muslim terrorist attacks
    29 muslim splodeydopes
    2005 killed by muslim terrorists
    3250 wounded by muslim terrorists

    I reckon they can do it for this year’s Ramadan Bombathon(TROP™) – break the 2000 barrier, that is.

    I’ve got a bet with a few friends. We all kick in 25 bucks. Closest wins a ham wot we buy with the dosh.

  35. Armadillo

    I’ve got a bet with a few friends. We all kick in 25 bucks. Closest wins a ham wot we buy with the dosh.

    More than happy to hold the ‘kitty’ for you MK50. Are any of your friends Jewish? If so, it would be insulting to send the prize. I’ll hold onto it for you.

    Disclaimer: Armadillo is the sole arbitrator of ‘who is Jewish, and those he might suspect as being Jewish’.

  36. calli

    Zip Tap inventor debuts on BRW Rich List.

    Love his face. You can see the character of the man right there. Thanks IT.

    He is a good bloke. I know someone who works for him, and they have nothing but praise for him. He is kind, and that’s rare these days.

  37. Grigory M

    Not shown as a quote, nic – so, that line appeared to be yours – apologies.

  38. Lysander

    BUFFER zones around abortion clinics in the state of Massachusetts have been deemed unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court on grounds that they limit freedom of expression.
    The Massachusetts law struck down by the high court had required protesters to stay at least 10 metres from the entrances to clinics that provide abortions.

    The ruling could have implications for other US states that have similar “buffer” legislation.

    The high court ruled unanimously that the 2007 Massachusetts restriction violates the First Amendment of the US Constitution, which ensures freedom of expression.

    The law, the court said in a decision written by Chief Justice John Roberts, “restricts access to ‘public way[s]’ and ‘sidewalk[s],’ places that have traditionally been open for speech activities.” The decision acknowledged that the buffer zones had served Massachusetts’ “legitimate interests in maintaining public safety on streets and sidewalks.” But at the same time, it said, “they impose serious burdens on petitioners’ speech, depriving them of their two primary methods of communicating with arriving patients: close, personal conversations and distribution of literature.” Seven anti-abortion advocates led by plaintiff Eleanor McCullen appealed the case to the Supreme Court.

    Anti-abortion advocates have set up long-running protests outside many clinics. In some instances, demonstrators have brandished pictures of aborted fetuses, handed out informational pamphlets and suggested alternatives to abortions to women arriving at clinics.

  39. .

    If they want a buffer zone – buy the surrounding land.

    Private property works.

  40. .

    MsDolittle
    #1361967, posted on June 27, 2014 at 4:21 pm
    and didn’t smoke herculean amounts of dope when I was 15.

    So only a small amount at 16, then? Bet you inhaled.

    My advice for those finding Walrasian equilibrium conceptually difficult is to get absolutely blotto. It worked for me.

  41. 10 metres isn’t far.
    A law that does nothing to stop people getting right in someone’s face and harassing them, preventing them from going about their law abiding way. Hmmm.

  42. Baldrick

    Closest wins a ham wot we buy with the dosh.

    What more fitting prize could there be for Ramadan Bombathon(TROP™) , ‘spect maybe a years subscription to Haraam Weekly.

  43. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, the ABC has been caught running dead on the RC into the unions (and some ex-girlfriend or other).

    ABC coverage of the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption

    Looks like they are feeling a little sensitive. Poor loves. They work so hard could do with a holiday. Forever. Shut em down.

  44. Rudiau

    Happy Ramadan for the Muslims and a Merry Christmas Happy Holidays for the infidels.

  45. That the matter was even raised with them, and that the ABC feels they have to defend their “coverage” (cough) tells the casual observer all they need to know.

  46. Baldrick

    Does Ramadan Bombathon(TROP™) trump Ramadan Shop ’till ya Jihad ? Just asking.

  47. Happy Ramadan for the Muslims and a Merry Christmas Happy Holidays for the infidels.

    Woolies haven’t done it well. Clueless morons.

    Ramadan is not a “Happy” type event is not not a celebration as is Christmas.

  48. Rudiau

    Love this comment on their FB page.

    Lee Schweikert Instead of giving the generic excuse you keep giving why not explain why you insist on pandering to 2 % of the population a cult that promotes barbarism and death to 98% who do not follow their leader.. As you see fit to alter Merry Christmas to Happy Holidays maybe ou could see fit to alter happy ramadam to happy child abuse, happy stoning, happy animal cruelty day.. afterall they are all what this cult promotes..
    Mohammad Abu Jwaied i feel sorry for you ignorant people
    1 · 2 hours ago
    Lee Schweikert Please dont feel sorry Mohammad Abu Jwaid I dont want your pity as I am entitled to my opinions as you are.. You choose to follow a path I dont but I dont want your cult rammed down my throat at the shops.. Just like your fellow muslims have managed to scream offence at my Christmas in MY country I have the right to scream offense at this display for a barbaric cult!!

  49. calli

    I do hope Woolies have a promotion for “bacon week” alongside their “Happy Ramadan” wishes.

    Now that would be truly multiculti.

  50. Rudiau

    Lee and Abu then go on to debate whether Islam is a cult or religion.

  51. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Baldrick: Does Ramadan Bombathon(TROP™) trump Ramadan Shop ’till ya Jihad ? Just asking.

    Yup.

    More splodies.
    More blood’n'guts.
    LOTS more corpses and screamy goings on.

  52. Rudiau

    I do hope Woolies have a promotion for “bacon week” alongside their “Happy Ramadan” wishes.

    You owe Mrs Rudi a new keyboard.

  53. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Bacon Week, and the Ramadan Bombathon(TROP™).

    Hmmm….

    This might be a good multiculti logo.

  54. nic

    I do hope Woolies have a promotion for “bacon week” alongside their “Happy Ramadan” wishes.

    A world cup promotion with heaps of beer and pork scratching snacks

  55. Baldrick

    Happy Ramadan for the Muslims and a Merry Christmas Happy Holidays for the infidels.

    Not so fast … Saudi Arabia will expel non-Muslims who disrespect Ramadan:

    Saudi authorities threatened Thursday to expel non-Muslim foreigners who eat, drink or smoke in public during the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, which begins this weekend.
    Those who violate (that)… will face the necessary measures, including terminating work contracts and being deported,” the statement added.

    So you wouldn’t actually be celebrating Ramadan, if you were a non-Islamist, living in Saudi Arabia.

  56. Baldrick

    This might be a good multiculti logo

    LOL

  57. Bruce of Newcastle

    Never attack a mosque with bacon. You can do serious time.

  58. calli

    Well, as a Christian with a Jewish daughter, I would be delighted to see both “Happy Christmas” and “Happy Hanukkah”, rather than the insipid and grotesque “Happy Holidays”.

    Australians used to be able to call a spade a spade…

  59. nic

    Roses are reddish
    Violets are bluish
    If It wasn’t for Jesus
    We’d all be Jewish.

  60. C.L.

    Pair jailed for Edinburgh’s Central Mosque bacon attack

    A teenage girl and 39-year old man who desecrated an Edinburgh mosque by attacking it with strips of bacon have both been jailed.

    Chelsea Lambie, 18, from Paisley, was sentenced to 12 months and Douglas Cruikshank, from Galashiels, to nine months.

    They attached bacon to door handles and threw strips inside Edinburgh’s Central Mosque on 31 January 2013.

    Cruikshank pled guilty. Lambie was found guilty after denying the charges.

    Sheriff Alistair Noble, at Edinburgh Sheriff Court, said: “It does not seem to me there is any way to deal with this case other than by custody.”

    It really is a shame so many good people died defending Britain.

  61. Dianne

    Australians used to be able to call a spade a spade…

    In some 1/4′s we still do.

  62. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Bruce – silly pommies. But that’s expected, all the smart ones came here. Those who remained on poverty rock thought to themselves that this was a great line of reasoning: ‘Eee bah goom, ‘oo wants to trade this loovely sleet and drizzle, knacker-cracking cold and tugging the forelock to some inbred upper class twit for sunshine, warmth and opportunity? Not me, lad!’

    Potato headed peasants and gormless gits the lot of ‘em.

    No brains.

    This is the way the Danes did the deed!

  63. C.L.

    More from that BBC link:

    A security guard at the mosque told the trial of the offence the bacon would have caused to Muslims.

    Usman Mahmood said: “I was surprised if a person did it for a joke. It is against our culture and religion.

    “We do not eat pork or even touch it. I felt very bad seeing this meat in my sacred place.

    “It hurt my feelings when I saw this meat hanging inside the mosque in the worshipping area. It was very disturbing.”

    The court heard that during a police interview Lambie had admitted being a member of the Scottish Defence League.

    The pair were accused of behaving in a threatening or abusive manner likely to cause fear and alarm.

    She ADMITTED it!

  64. calli

    It really is a shame so many good people died defending Britain.

    The “flower of France” died at Agincourt. England waited 500 years…

  65. Gab

    I would be delighted to see both “Happy Christmas” and “Happy Hanukkah”, rather than the insipid and grotesque “Happy Holidays”.

    Sadly, in 21st century Australian democracy, Happy Christmas and Happy Hanukkah are deemed offensive in schools, councils, shopping centres, supermarkets etc but Happy Ramadan is not.

  66. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bacon is deadly stuff, Mk50. You could buy a lot of bacon with that $500 million Obama wants to spend.

    It would be equally effective.

  67. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    What Phillipa said!

    To paraphrase

    As a Christian with Israeli mates, I am delighted to say both “Happy Christmas” and “Happy Hanukkah”, ignore the pathetic Americanism “Happy Holidays” and hope for 342 muslim terrorist attacks, 29 muslim splodeydopes, 2005 killed by muslim terrorists and 3250 wounded by muslim terrorists during the 2014 Ramadan Bombathon(TROP™).

    (Hey, there’s a triple-smoked ham riding on this.)

  68. calli

    Mk50…I’m chuffed that you would confuse my ramblings with the lovely Philippa. Bless you. :oops:

  69. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Do tell, CL.

    That’s the Diplomad’s tale of how pakistani muslims torture and abuse dogs and other animals. Psycho’s the lot of them.

  70. Potato headed peasants and gormless gits the lot of ‘em.

    No brains.

    Racist bigot.

  71. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Australian used to be able to call a spade a spade

    More likely to call a spade a (expletive deleted) shovel

  72. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Calli – oops.

    {looks suspiciously at rum bottle}

  73. calli

    A witness who was working nearby told the ABC the man was naked and walking on the roof when he fell on top of the train’s electrical system.

    He said the man was “convulsing and shaking” and was on fire for about five minutes.

    Hush, C.L. They still have to determine the cause of death. Hypothermia?

  74. Armadillo

    Police Probe London Sign Saying ‘Muslims Don’t Like Dogs’.

    That’s dead set true CL. There is a story behind it. Mohammad was bitten by a dog. A cat laid on his chest.

  75. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    NUmbers me old slimy white supremacist bigot and dusky-person hating terrorist supporting stalinist scumvermin, how are you?

    I thought I heard the sound of something disgusting slithering out from under a rock.

  76. Grigory M

    Hush, C.L. They still have to determine the cause of death. Hypothermia?

    Well – he was naked – in Melbourne – at the end of June. ;)

  77. Armadillo

    (Hey, there’s a triple-smoked ham riding on this.)

    Armadillo will decide that. We have an iron clad agreement.

  78. calli

    Open and shut case then. Someone needs to alert the Darwin Awards.

    Just when you think you’ve seen all that peak stupid can offer, along comes another.

  79. A cat laid on his chest.

    A cat laid what on his chest?

  80. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hey Numbers, Mk50 was talking about a whole nation. Which has every race under the sun.

    They are run by a ‘conservative’ government which is as limp, wet and green as tinned asparagus, and see fit to gaol someone for a year for putting bacon on a doorhandle. Here you would have to run someone over whilst drunk with an expired license while on bail for goat molesting to receive a sentence that harsh.

  81. nic

    Open and shut case then. Someone needs to alert the Darwin Awards.

    Wait till they examine the root causes. Im sure Tony Abbott has played a role there somewhere

  82. Rudiau

    If there had been stricter gun control laws this poor in-offensive armed robber may have lived.

  83. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Calli, there was a ghastly video of a bloke in New York (drunk) who got on to the subway like and earthed the third (live) rail. Nothing anyone could do except watch him quite literally fry. I think the body caught fire eventually.

    I’ve hauled lots of dead’uns out of the sea and seen my share of mass graves, but that was grim.

  84. Armadillo

    A cat laid what on his chest?

    Oh crap. Grammar alert. I suspect I’m about to be layed off?

  85. Grigory M

    Wait till they examine the root causes

    The examiner will probably freeze to death.

  86. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Bruce:

    Here you would have to run someone over whilst drunk with an expired license while on bail for goat molesting …

    Hey!

    Don’t blow ALL of Number’s little secrets!

  87. calli

    I’ve hauled lots of dead’uns out of the sea and seen my share of mass graves, but that was grim.

    Seen horrors too, Mk50. My pity is for the idiot’s grieving family.

    Four young gents were sent up into roof spaces to staple down worse than useless “insulation”…

  88. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    I can only agree Calli. We got a few – a very few – back from the old grey widow-maker alive, once.

    That was a very, very good day. 15 families got to see Dad/Uncle/Brother/Son come home again.

  89. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sorry, Mk50, I draw the line on that one. Unacceptable mate. Apology from me too, I would not make such a statement about anyone and am sad it resulted from something I did write.

    A guy got himself banned by Sinc once for saying things like that about me in the depths of a very long and very old thread. Don’t do it.

  90. Cold-Hands

    That’s the Diplomad’s tale of how pakistani muslims torture and abuse dogs and other animals. Psycho’s the lot of them.

    He obviously doesn’t vet his comments- that first one seems to have nothing to do with his post.

  91. Leo G

    ABC Fractured Fact check:

    Tony Abbott overstating household savings from axing the carbon tax

    The claim: Tony Abbott says Australian households will benefit to the tune of $550 a year if the carbon tax is axed.
    The ABCFC verdict: Based on Treasury modelling, households will be better off by around $550 in 2014-15 if the current legislation is scrapped. However the following year the estimated impact on households drops to $280.

    But Tony Abbott has clearly stated that the saving was a bonus- a $550 a year bonus- meaning that the saving over a full year was expected to be $550 for each household and proportionally less for a lesser period.
    The ABC wrongly states that the following year the savings drops to $280 (note: not the savings per year). In fact, if the ABC figure for the 2015-2016 year is correct then the saving is $848 (or $424 a year over the two year period. By the third year the saving is $1271 ( $424 a year over the 3-year period)
    The ABC Factcheck claim is wrong to state that: “the impact on average households would plummet to $280 in 2015-16 and rise to $423 in 2016-17″. Impact on households dropping to $280 implies households had returned the previous years bonus.

  92. srr

    If this DARPA project has been declassified, you wonder how much better are the ones they’ve still got up their sleeve…

    Remember Dick Tracy’s TV Phone watch, and how much longer we had to wait for basic camera phones.

    I tend to view all the new wizz bangery we mere mortals are given to play with, are about that far behind the Real New toys of The Really Big Boys.

    This is a good thing, considering what some decided pressure cookers and cheap mobiles are useful for.

  93. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    the old, grey widow- maker

    Kipling? (To the shame of the younger generation, I am prone to quoting Kipling while as pi$$ed as a newt while tired and emotional, and you did mention looking at the rum bottle…..)

  94. Baldrick

    1735099
    #1362159, posted on June 27, 2014 at 7:33 pm
    Racist bigot.

    Piss off you rabid DOG.

  95. Peter from SA

    ABC Fractured Fact check:

    All this stuff is so hopelessly contextual that the ABC should just give up trying to say what is factual or not.

  96. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Bruce:

    Sorry, Mk50, I draw the line on that one. Unacceptable mate. Apology from me too, I would not make such a statement about anyone and am sad it resulted from something I did write.

    Fair enough. I publicly apologise, then, to you and Numbers for any offence caused.

  97. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    ZK2A Kipling?

    yes. Harp Song of the Dane Women.

    WHAT is a woman that you forsake her,
    And the hearth-fire and the home-acre.
    To go with the old grey Widow-maker?

  98. calli

    As I enjoy a delicious second third glass of Cab Sav, I think of Kipling, too.

    But we are at the one thousand, one hundredth comment…one hundred too late for my favourite poem.

  99. Armadillo

    Fair enough. I publicly apologise, then, to you and Numbers for any offence caused.

    I still get to keep the kitty right? If not, I too deserve an apology.

  100. Peter from SA

    On the stuff about how Pakistani’s treat animals.

    I spent several weeks travelling in rural Pakistan between Peshawar and Quetta in the early 90s. Some of it was near the Afghan border and rather scary. All those I travelled with came away with the understanding that bestiality, and to some extent, homosexuality, were a norm of rural male youths in Pakistan. The females work their guts out year-round. The males only work during harvest season. So during other times of the year, like when I was there, in every village were groups of idle males sitting around drinking tea. I could add the hyperbowl that they had their hands down their pants (shalwar kameez), which was only true most of the time. The place was like a tinder-box …

  101. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Oh, and Mount Gay rum.

    Gah. Crappy day from the get go, and to cap it just got some news regarding “Fair Winds and Following Seas”.

    Hence the rum.

  102. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Hmmm….. tasty.

    ARMADILLO FRICASSEE
    1 armadillo, cut into pieces
    2 med. potatoes
    2 onions, sliced
    2 carrots, coin chopped
    1 stalk celery, chopped
    1 bay leaf
    1/4 tsp. thyme
    1/2 c. butter
    1/2 c. flour
    1/2 tsp. salt
    1/4 tsp. pepper
    Dust armadillo meat in flour, salt, and pepper. Brown on both sides in the butter. Put enough water in pot to cover after adding remaining vegetables. Cover and simmer until meat is tender, about 2 hours. Add seasoned flour and water to thicken liquid.

  103. Geriatric Mayfly

    Mk50. I have forgotten the exact terminology; but ‘carbonated penis syndrome’ will do. Not uncommon amongst tramps who, shack up in the underground system, get up for a piss in the night, and their aim hits the live rail. Ouch and out.

  104. twostix

    Racist bigot.

    Interrogated, harrassed and frightened any young Asian looking McDonald’s workers about their immigration status lately you creep?

  105. Grigory M

    carbonated penis syndrome’ … Not uncommon amongst tramps who, shack up in the underground system, get up for a piss in the night, and their aim hits the live rail. Ouch and out.

    BS according to Myth Busters.

  106. C.L.

    These are some of the fine Labor-appointed ‘judges’ who have campaigned militantly for Justice Carmody to quit before he begins …

    There is no other way to describe this decision but as objectively pro-child rape:

    A SUNSHINE Coast mother feels the judicial system has again failed her young son after the state’s highest court deemed the sentence imposed on the man who brutally raped him was sufficient.

    Christopher John McCoy, 21, pleaded guilty earlier this year to brutally raping and committing revolting sex acts on the eight-year-old.

    He was sentenced to three years in jail, suspended after serving nine months.

    Attorney-General Jarrod Bleijie appealed the sentence, saying it was manifestly inadequate.

    However, the Queensland Court of Appeal rejected the appeal this week, saying the sentence was in line with similar cases.

    The boy’s mother, who cannot be identified in order to protect her son’s identity, said the latest saga in the sordid tale had left her a “shattered woman”.

    She said she had lost all faith in the system established to protect society’s most vulnerable – our children.

    “I am bitterly disappointed and absolutely speechless,” she said.

    “The system is very screwed up if a child rapist can walk free after only serving nine months.

    “The whole situation is disgusting . . . the crime, the initial sentence, the letter, the appeal.”

    One of the acts committed was sodomy.

    Oh yeah, McCoy also sent a letter to his victim from jail.

    Community anger grew to a crescendo the following day after it was revealed McCoy had refused to participate in the sexual offenders program while inside jail.

    Nine months. He’ll be out in September.

    Ray Hadley rightly attacks the decision, audio at that link.

    These judges ought to be removed from the bench by parliament immediately.

  107. Leo G

    I am prone to quoting Kipling while … tired and emotional, and you did mention looking at the rum bottle…..)

    ‘Rum-ti-tum-tra-la’

  108. Baldrick

    Fair enough. I publicly apologise, then, to you and Numbers for any offence caused.

    FMD, the DOG nUmbers deserves no apology. Get real Bruce.

  109. Grigory M

    DOG

    Kid stuff. Just ignore the troll.

  110. Armadillo

    Hmmm….. tasty.

    No apology needed. Carry on…

  111. twostix

    the Queensland Court of Appeal rejected the appeal this week, saying the sentence was in line with similar cases.

    Hey Ari!

    Your system isn’t working.

    Elected Judges would do the trick though. Let Justice Carmondy and his cohorts explain clearly to the their electorate why they don’t think child rapists should be imprisoned for long periods of time.

  112. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    the old grey Widow maker

    I read Kipling’s “Captain’s Courageous” all those years ago, and was reminded of the lines you quote while seeing the Museum of the Atlantic Fisheries in Halifax a few years ago. There’s a memorial to all those lost with the fishing fleets with their names, and some fool asked why so many of them had the last same names.

    “Well, if you went to sea, fishing, with your father, and two brothers, and the ship was lost with all hands……”

  113. Baldrick

    Grigory M
    #1362242, posted on June 27, 2014 at 8:25 pm
    DOG
    Kid stuff. Just ignore the troll.

    … in your opinion.

  114. twostix

    Ugh let Justice CarmondyJustices Margaret McMurdo and Roslyn Atkinson explain to their electorates, etc , etc.

  115. .

    Bleijie ought to remove that judge poste haste.

  116. srr

    A cheery little ditty that makes you want to live…if only to watch it again…

    DUMB WAYS TO DIE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw&feature=kp

  117. twostix

    That name rings a bell:
    Justices Margaret McMurdo…

    Justices Margaret McMurdo and Roslyn Atkinson both noted the comparable cases were “more serious” to which the offenders only received “slightly larger sentences.”

    Oh yeah:

    Court of Appeal president Justice Margaret McMurdo has lamented the lack of female talent appointed to the judiciary.

    And then

    QUEENSLAND’S top female judge has hit out at Attorney-General Jarrod Bleijie for implying she sought to get her husband a promotion – but refused to detail her version of events.

    The QLD Judiciary is an absolute cesspit of nepotism, corruption and child rapist sympathisers. Force them to face the public every ten years to beg for their jobs.

  118. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    C.L.
    #1362234, posted on June 27, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Rule .303′s tempting some days.

  119. Gab

    The QLD Judiciary is an absolute cesspit of nepotism, corruption and child rapist sympathisers.

    Better make that the Australian judiciary.

  120. C.L.

    The QLD Judiciary is an absolute cesspit of nepotism, corruption and child rapist sympathisers.

    Right.

    Just as a matter of historical interest, it’s worth mentioning again that the Queensland Labor Party is the only political party in the world to have chosen as leader and deputy leader men later jailed for child sex offences.

  121. twostix

    More Margaret McMurdo politicking:

    2008:

    Queensland Court of Appeal president Margaret McMurdo issued the rare public rebuke to Opposition legal affairs spokesman George Brandis, a Senior Counsel, after he earlier this month referred the legislation, already passed by the House of Representatives with bipartisan support, to a Senate inquiry.

    Rare? Not so rare in hindsight.

    But gee McMurdo certainly likes to involve herself in politics. Perhaps we she would indulge her by letting her put her political beliefs to the electorate…during her election campaign.

    Here she is looking very serious and judicial as one would expect from one of QLD’s most “senior” judges.

  122. oldsalt

    Kipling. Anyone who’s lived in Asia can substitute his/her part for Mandalay and feel the pangs.

    And don’t forget Robert Service, ‘There’s a race of men who don’t fit in, a race that can’t stay still, they break the hearts of kith and kin and roam the world at will…’

  123. twostix

    Back in the ’90′s when women were mocking males full time and smugly telling us how much better they’d run things with all their womanly compassion and stuff, did anyone realise they meant they’d have compassion towards child rapists?
    Anyway aside from Kirner, Gillard, Bligh, Lawrence, McMurdo, O’Shane, etc, etc this experiment with quotas and elevating arbitrary women into positions of power seems to be going well.

  124. brc

    What’s the bet baconing the local mosque would get you 9 months around here.

    That sentence is absolutely sickening.

    They guy shouldn’t see daylight for at least 20 years.

    He will re-offend. Of this there is no doubt. These people are playing lottery with kids lives.

    Someone should contact the Morecombes for comment.

  125. C.L.

    2008?

    Try today:

    Court of Appeal President Margaret McMurdo mentions soured legal-government relations in de Jersey speech.

    COURT of Appeal President Justice Margaret McMurdo has referenced the soured relationship between the judiciary and the Newman Government during her speech farewelling outgoing Chief Justice Paul de Jersey today…

    “Your appointment as Chief Justice appeared to herald an appropriately cooperative working relationship between the judiciary and the executive, delicately balancing the ever present and inevitable tension so that each arm acted independently but with mutual courtesy and respect, regardless of the dominant political party in the legislative arm, at least until recently.”

  126. Snoopy

    Deadman

    What’s the go with ‘the premises’ these days? Back in the day I thought that ‘premises’ was like ‘sheep’, either singular or plural as context warranted. Now it seems “the premise’ is de rigeur when singular is meant. Sounds weird to me.

  127. C.L.

    And here she is giving a speech trashing the LNP.

    Everyone understand now why these slimeballs are wetting their pants about Carmody?

    He’s not one of them.

  128. brc

    There must be some way the public can get a judge booted. Somebody must have the power to do it. Surely some public pressure placed somewhere can make this happen.

    All the tears, all the parades, all the millions of dollars spent finding Daniel Morcombe and the simplest of lessons appears not to be learnt.

    Lock these filth away so they cannot reoffend.

  129. Snoopy

    McMurdo is a disgraceful arsewipe. Fortunately she’s costing taxpayers a bomb.

  130. twostix

    In light of the above articles like these with Judges whinging and whining seem even more self-indulgent and grotesque:

    Every judge and magistrate interviewed in 2010 insisted it was unthinkable and unheard of now, but what irks them these days is a more subtle pressure – the willingness of politicians to climb aboard populist law and order campaigns regardless of the impact on the standing of the courts and the state’s prison population.

    How dare those vulgar politicians promise law and order.

    And then there’s the whinging:

    Attorneys-general do not ride to the defence of judges as they used to. “We seem to have lost that support,” Justice Megan Latham laments.

    It is fair game, she says, to talk of where the law needs reform. But all too often it is easier to attack a particular judge, as she knows from experience.

    The premier Bob Carr caned her in 2001 when she handed down sentences that he considered too light for three gang rapists. She, too, thought they were lenient at the time, but followed the prevailing range of rape sentences – as judges must, “because that’s equal justice”.

    And there’s this:

    Perhaps the thing that stings judges and magistrates most of all is the persistent perception that they are “out of touch”

    The striking photo in his chambers of his Hunter Valley vineyard suggests he does have an avenue of escape from time to time. “

    Out of touch? Well I never. Have a good weekend at the Vineyard Your Honour!

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/the-secret-lives-of-judges-20101016-16o9w.html#ixzz35pv3k0xf

  131. brc

    That’s it. I’m writing to Bleije on Monday asking what he is going to do about it.

    There’s no senate. The labor party has 8 seats.

    Pass minimum sentencing laws for child sex offenders. They could do this quickly. Who is going to oppose? The Tarago-dwelling opposition? The one who has had leaders locked up for child sex offences?

    This McMurdo nut will probably freak. good. Let her be on record saying she supports the right of child sex offenders to walk freely after a light rap on the knuckles and a couple of optional counselling sessions.

  132. johanna

    They’re not all wimps, twostix. The two toughest magistrates here in the ACT are Karen Fryar and Bernadette Boss. Defendants with previous form especially will go to great lengths to avoid appearing before them. They don’t take excuses about how somebody was mean to you at school once or that you need to stay out of jail because your girlfriend’s father just died. They are Aussie Judge Judys!

    The rest (mostly blokes) are pretty pathetic though.

  133. That’s it. I’m writing to Bleije on Monday asking what he is going to do about it.

    You’re wasting your time.
    He can’t read…………..

  134. brc

    I think that was sarcasm. Fortunately.

  135. C.L.

    Although I’ve criticised his idiotic bikie laws and will continue to do so, I have to hand it to Bleije for now legendary slap-down of McMurdo.

    She whined publicly about LNP sexism regarding the bench.

    He revealed she’d tried to have her hubbie appointed to a bench of his own.

    She’ll never fully recover.

  136. Tom

    Here she is looking very serious and judicial

    … and like an Emily’s List ALP loudmouth, promoted from the dregs of mediocrity by an affirmative action program because she has neither the talent of the respect of her peers to do it on merit. And, like everything else that has come from this diseased milieu, she has no understanding of justice, just loyalty to her tribe.

    The Liars Party has almost singlehandedly destroyed community confidence in the judiciary Australia-wide.

  137. brc

    Although I’ve criticised his idiotic bikie laws and will continue to do so, I have to hand it to Bleije for now legendary slap-down of McMurdo.

    You have to get used to this with LNP politicians. They’re only mildly incompetent instead of totally incompetent. Occasionally they get something right.

    If only they showed that sort of spine continuously.

    Passing some minimum child sex offender sentencing laws would certainly have public support and no opponents worth mentioning. Get the Morecombes to help launch the policy in Clive fashion.

    Maybe all the vile offenders would nick off to another state, even.

  138. Snoopy

    The Liars Party has almost singlehandedly destroyed community confidence in the judiciary Australia-wide.

    That’s a very small price to pay for gender equality.

  139. Armadillo

    I suspect the “Musical Interlude” from Sinc is a deflection. There will be a new Fred any minute now.

  140. twostix

    Passing some minimum child sex offender sentencing laws would certainly have public support and no opponents worth mentioning. Get the Morecombes to help launch the policy in Clive fashion.

    This strikes me as treating the symptom rather than the root issue.

    And the “justice” system finds ways to white-ant them anyway.

  141. Aristogeiton

    C.L.
    #1362312, posted on June 27, 2014 at 9:16 pm
    Although I’ve criticised his idiotic bikie laws and will continue to do so, I have to hand it to Bleije for now legendary slap-down of McMurdo.

    She whined publicly about LNP sexism regarding the bench.

    He revealed she’d tried to have her hubbie appointed to a bench of his own.

    Yeah, that was fair game. She behaved miserably and only has herself to blame.

  142. brc is about to write to the Attorney-General of Queensland:

    That’s it. I’m writing to Bleije on Monday asking what he is going to do about it.

    Longtime Qld schoolmaster mentions that the same Attorney-General was educated in the Queensland public education system:

    You’re wasting your time.
    He can’t read…………..

  143. Nic

    Funny how many Emily’s list type recipients that bray about the rights of women, go all soft when sentencing a sex offender .

  144. What’s the go with ‘the premises’ these days?

    Snoopy, I’ve noted for some time that people such as Malcolm Turnbull insist on using “the premise” when referring to places which may be forced to connect to the NBN. That is, of course, catachrestic; “premises”, deriving from legal terminology—land and all the buildings thereon premised, that is bequeathed, in a will—ought never to be used in the singular (like “quarters” and “digs”). We already have sufficient words for “home” or “dwelling” which may be used in the singular—domicile, say, or abode, residence, habitation or pad—that we need not misuse another term.

  145. .

    1735099
    #1362307, posted on June 27, 2014 at 9:12 pm
    That’s it. I’m writing to Bleije on Monday asking what he is going to do about it.

    You’re wasting your time.
    He can’t read…………..

    You can’t write. You can’t teach. You can’t tell the truth…

  146. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    He can’t read

    Someone involved in teaching children with special needs, attacks someone for being unable to read. Jarrod Bleije was born in 1982…

  147. brc

    Minimum sentencing has it’s problems.

    It’s certainly better than letting scum back out onto the streets after 9 months.

    If the problem is that previous offenders have got light sentences, so the judges can’t be harsh, then fix the law so the judges have a new precedent to follow.

    This is not some bikies witch hunt. Nobody is removing the right to appeal a bad trial or anything like that. Just simply saying to judges – if you find someone in the dock charged with these crimes, you can’t lock them up for a shorter period of, say, 10 years.

    Jails full? Boo Hoo. Build some new ones, preferably out west in the middle of nowhere where it is hot and unpleasant. Call it Keynesian stimulus for a local economy somewhere.

  148. Steve D

    See the bombers fly up get buried.

    [Didn't think Sinc would have the heart to post.]

  149. C.L.

    Supreme Court voids 35-foot abortion clinic buffer.

    LOL:

    Clinic officials said they are most concerned about safety because of past incidents of violence.

  150. LOL, indeed. But we should not get carried away. Dems in Congress are busying themselves with federal legislation that would override state restrictions on abortion. Ever the lapdogs of the abortion mill owners.

  151. Sinclair Davidson

    This year the Bombers will have earned 9th spot.

  152. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    You can’t teach

    Numbers, who reminds us that the mark of a society, is how that society treats it’s disadvantaged members
    sneers at someone who “can’t read.”

  153. Tom

    They’re as good as they were last year, Snic. Which means they have gone backwards.

  154. Tim Stanley hits it out of the park: The Catholic Church will not be changing its views on sex. It cannot and it should not
    I particularly liked this:

    The first proposition is so unremarkable as to be not worth remarking upon. Except to say that one of the chief causes of the laity’s ignorance of what their Church teaches on sex is down to the fact that – despite the media’s claims to the contrary – the Church never talks about sex. I have never once sat through a sermon in which a priest has railed against the evils of condoms or given an illustrated lecture on the benefits of the withdrawal method. Not that I would wish Fr MacKenzie to do either. But the fact that the laity’s family and religious lives are sometimes lived at odds with each other cries out for the Church to catechise them better, preferably in school.

  155. Tiny Dancer

    Mt Gay rum and large breasts. Hmmmmmmmmh.

  156. .

    I have never once sat through a sermon in which a priest has railed against the evils of condoms or given an illustrated lecture on the benefits of the withdrawal method.

    We never even got a sex talk during a sermon at a Catholic boys high school.

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