Did Al Gore get played?

Yesterday afternoon I watched the Palmer circus press conference where he more or less announced that he would agree to the repeal of the carbon tax, but only on condition that all savings are passed back to consumers, and that the Parliament legislates that Australia will participate in a future international ETS. In the meantime he would be voting against “direct action”.

At least that was my understanding of what he said – The Australian has the same impression.

My understanding of “direct action” has always been that it is a stop-gap measure between ending the carbon tax and participating in an international scheme (whatever that might be) – being seen to do something, but not actually doing much.

Yesterday’s announcement translates into:

We’re going to do nothing, until everyone else does something.

That has been my position all along, so well done Clive.

In the meantime Clive Palmer managed to get Al Gore to stand next to him and more or less provide legitimacy to a policy that Gore would abhor if he understood what Palmer has just done.

I think Jonathan Green summed it up:

All very strange – but in one sense it lets everyone back away from the carbon tax with their dignity intact (except the Greens, but then they have no dignity). The tax is repealed, direct action never happens, and we agree to participate in an international scheme (something both major parties in Canberra would have done anyway) if and when it ever happens.

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109 Responses to Did Al Gore get played?

  1. jupes

    Did Al Gore get playedpayed?

    I dare say so.

  2. AP

    I wonder if Gore awoke this morning with a headache and slightly lower self-esteem?

  3. Grandma

    Played? More likely he was paid!

  4. Gab

    Clive and Al. Hmmm…

    Goremer? Gormer?

    Clival?

    Cligore? Cligoresauraus Rex?

  5. john constantine

    the idea of al gore doing pub sportsmans nights for the swampie set seemed like a funny.

    then i realised that gore already does pub sportsmans nights for the swampy set, but, at really nice venues, he charges ten grand a ticket, and the money is paid by taxpayers/non government organisations [from tax payers dollars]

  6. Joe Goodacre

    Seems more likely he was paid and did his job – to provide the sell for Clive appearing to be for climate change, but actually doing nothing in practice.

    Well played Clive and thank you from the sceptics.

  7. steve

    We’re going to do nothing, until everyone else does something

    Now that is an inconvenient truth

  8. Anthony

    After reading the transcript for last night’s Lateline, it would appear that the future participation in an ETS is not a condition for repealing the carbon tax but simply Palmer being Palmer on the abolition of taxes that affect his businesses.

  9. feelthebern

    Contrary to what the ABC & Fairfax press says today, this is a pretty good result.
    At breakfast this morning – make sure you turn up early Tony, before Clive eats all the bacon & egg rolls – Tony should thank Clive.
    At some stage this Clean Energy Finance Corp & the RET can be looked at.
    But the biggies, carbon tax, a real ETS, direct action are all now in the bin.

    This is like when you are in a car accident & when you pull yourself out of the wreck, you find you don’t have a scratch on you.
    You have to pat yourself down to double check you’re OK.

    Alls well that ends well.

  10. incoherent rambler

    In another era, when metrics rather than belief ruled, primary school graduates would heap ridicule on the two press conferencees.

    I despair when simple propaganda can elevate either of these gentleman to press conference status.

  11. Andore Jr.

    This is hilarious. He literally used Gore as a shield against any political flanking from the Greens / GetUp.

    I’m thinking of bringing Gore along next time I want to talk only to the adults in charge.

  12. Infidel Tiger

    Keeping the the CEFC is a worry. No doubt Clive and Al are involved in some green energy scam on the taxpayers.

    I’ve always thought the Renewable Energy Target caused far more problems than the carbon tax ever would and that doesn’t look in any danger of going.

  13. Bruce of Newcastle

    The analysis on Price & Bolt last evening was that Gore charges between $150,000 and $500,000 for appearances. And that the circumstances of this appearance would have leant towards the high end of the scale.

    Gore’s appearance fees are available on this talent booking website.

  14. And of course big Al did not want to answer any “hard” questions as usual – so they had to rush of to an “urgent” dinner at 5.45 pm. That was Clives first dinner, probably had a couple more later that evening!

  15. Token

    I think Jonathan Green summed it up:

    Guessing that al gore is now available for birthday parties, hens nights, etc

    — Jonathan Green (@GreenJ) June 25, 2014

    Purchase that cable TV network no-one watch by the 100% oil sheidom owned Al Jazeera proved that Gore will be anyone’s biatch for the right price.

  16. .

    Infidel Tiger
    #1360645, posted on June 26, 2014 at 8:46 am
    Keeping the the CEFC is a worry. No doubt Clive and Al are involved in some green energy scam on the taxpayers.

    I’ve always thought the Renewable Energy Target caused far more problems than the carbon tax ever would and that doesn’t look in any danger of going.

    This is what JC says, I tend to agree with you guys. The RET could be a real cancer on the economy.

  17. manalive

    Palmer …… more or less announced that he would agree to the repeal of the carbon tax, but only on condition that all savings are passed back to consumers ….

    I don’t believe a word the flabby clown utters.

  18. Token

    In the meantime Clive Palmer managed to get Al Gore to stand next to him and more or less provide legitimacy to a policy that Gore would abhor if he understood what Palmer has just done.

    In a world with a media that are watchdogs for the public, this type of dog & pony trick would be exposed in 20 seconds.

    We don’t live in that world.

  19. Tom

    Transcript of Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen feeding his favourite chook.

  20. Token

    I’ve always thought the Renewable Energy Target caused far more problems than the carbon tax ever would and that doesn’t look in any danger of going.

    That is the bedrock which layers upon layers of business choking regulation will be piled.

  21. Alfonso

    Sweet, Al’s credibility now below zero…… a fitting fate for the king of the Gilt Edged Carbon Indulgences market.

    Al was the mark. Clive’s sting was sublime.

  22. Judith Sloan

    Hopefully keeping the RET doesn’t preclude some changes to it. Then that would probably be a good idea. Easy to starve the Climate Change Authority; no doubt that the board members will squeal but who will be listening. I understand between a third and half of the staff has already left. Anyway we have Flan’s crowd funded outfit.

  23. hoppers

    Milne’s fury said it all.

  24. George Brandis thanks for NOTHING

    Milne’s fury said it all.

    Yep.

  25. Mike of Marion

    ABC Radio 891 Adelaide going full bore Abbott666 and Clive with interviews with Mark Butler ALP and Sarah Sea-Patrol. This mob aren’t good enough to clean my toilet!!!!!!!

  26. politichix

    Gab
    #1360629, posted on June 26, 2014 at 8:35 am
    Clive and Al. Hmmm…

    Goremer? Gormer?

    Clival?

    Cligore? Cligoresauraus Rex?

    Hahahahahaha! That was fun, so much so I’m getting stared at in the coffee shop.

  27. Clive 4 Evah

    Two global giants of world politics, addressing one of the signal issues of our age.

    Cease your petty carping, Professor. Should you not be flying into yet another rage about tobacco consumption rates?

  28. Gab

    More like two global Ompa Loompas.

  29. Rabz

    Two global giants of world politics, addressing one of the signal issues of our age.

    And not a Patagonian Toothfish to be seen.

  30. politichix

    feelthebern
    #1360638, posted on June 26, 2014 at 8:42 am
    This is like when you are in a car accident & when you pull yourself out of the wreck, you find you don’t have a scratch on you.

    I still recommend big tone check his watch is in place and his wallet still in his pocket after he shakes hands with the clivenator. Just saying…

  31. C.L.

    I think Palmer was just showing off an ability to pull (pay?) a supposedly major political figure.

    That’s all this was about. Publicity for Clive.

    Palmer contributes a fortune to the JFK Library in Boston (for some weird reason) and likes to be photographed with the Kennedy family’s leftovers.

    This is just more of the same egotistical hobbyism. It’s meaningless.

  32. Econocrat

    He got reamed. Climate scammer got totally out sammed!

  33. Major Elvis Newton

    With the so-called ‘consensus’ ‘science’ of AGW being mocked every other week by hard empirical evidence, maybe someone could explain why we need any form of carbon tax, ETS or “direct action” plan at all?

    Global temps are flat despite rising CO2 levels which rends the whole “carbon pollution” lie asunder.

    Why do we continue to discuss any form of market mechanism?

    You’d have have better luck trying to shove a fart back into a bottle.

  34. .

    Clive 4 Evah
    #1360690, posted on June 26, 2014 at 9:19 am
    Two global giants of world politics

    You got that right. We damned near had an eclipse yesterday arvo.

  35. incoherent rambler

    The RET could be a real cancer on the economy.

    s/could/IS/

  36. hzhousewife

    Anyway we have Flan’s crowd funded outfit.

    Anyone know how that’s going btw ?

  37. Joe Goodacre

    This is like when you are in a car accident & when you pull yourself out of the wreck, you find you don’t have a scratch on you.
    You have to pat yourself down to double check you’re OK.

    Well put.

  38. Alfonso

    All Tone needs to do is offer a refund to Clive of the money he’s already paid to the CO2 tax scam and the rest of his “proposals” will disappear like dust in the wind.

    Don’t underestimate the Clive, he just got Gore to publicly support the abolishing of the tax AND the abolishing of any chance at an ETS.
    Slick.

  39. Joe Goodacre

    The RET could be a real cancer on the economy.

    It already is – malinvestments galore.

  40. Bill

    An Australian political laughing stock is still a lot smarter than a Democrat Party presidential nominee.
    (May Allah save the West!).

  41. thefrollickingmole

    Meanwhile the greens wonder why the Goreacle didnt drop in so they could worship him…

    MR PALMER MUST CLARIFY VAGUE GLOBAL WARMING POLICY

    Wednesday, Jun 25th, 2014
    The Greens are celebrating the fact that Greens, Labor and Mr Palmer will use the Senate to block the repeal of the Clean Energy Finance Corporation, Renewable Energy Target and Climate Change Authority, but are extremely sceptical about Mr Palmer’s vague support for an emissions trading scheme.

    “It is fantastic that the Senate will save the renewable energy institutions that the Greens established in the last Parliament. These critical institutions are reducing pollution, saving the government money and creating jobs in new industries,” Greens Leader Christine Milne said.

    “When it comes to pricing pollution, Mr Palmer appears to be having it both ways. The fact is, we already have an emissions trading scheme.

    Mr Palmer’s proposal is extremely vague. I’m not sure if that is intentional or if he doesn’t understand that we already have an emissions trading scheme.

    “We need to clarify whether Mr Palmer doesn’t understand our current emissions trading scheme or whether he is delaying sincere action on global warming.

    “The price on pollution that is already legislated is working and already linked to the European Union. It is the cheapest and most effective global warming policy we could have, and we should keep it.

    “A cynical interpretation would be that Mr Palmer is wanting to push out any effective action until after the next election, because the Abbott government will not act to strengthen any scheme like Mr Palmer’s proposal would require.”

    You know theres a bit of folk lore that says if you are plating poker and you cant see whos the bunny at the table, the bunny is you.

  42. .

    Julia is a winner because Gore came to Australia?

    Does that mean Doc Pachurri isn’t a bullshit artist?

  43. nic

    Remember when the left used to screech about American interference in domestic affairs? Anyway, if there’s a further gift, its that the Greens have been further sidelined.

  44. Viva

    Clearly the warmists are just as convinced that the world will act on developing an international ETS as we are that the world will do no such thing. Now one side or the other is delusional or indulging in wishful thinking. I just hope it isn’t us.

  45. Bill

    I wonder if anyone told the Goracle that his new pal is trying to get permission to mine about 50 million tons a year of fossilised wood. Then ship it to China.

    Gore is an utter hamster.

  46. Tintarella di Luna

    The world now knows of Al Gore’s credentials on doing something about climate change and if you don’t like those credentials he has others. What a hoot. The tune: Busy doing nothing comes to mind – Palmer Gored Al and Al didn’t feel a thing

  47. john constantine

    just wondering, but if councils stacked with swampies donate ratepayers money to ‘crowdfunding’ swampy projects, is it really crowdfunding?.

  48. Dr Faustus

    This is just more of the same egotistical hobbyism. It’s meaningless.

    It’s not, you know. Palmer is playing Australia very astutely:

    - His businesses will obtain a substantial financial benefit from killing off the carbon tax;

    - Wheeling out the whore Gore shields him from direct criticism of using his position for personal gain;

    - The anti-Abbott line gets him great soft coverage by the ABC/Fairfax media;

    - The stunts get him broad, uncritical coverage by everyone (other than some corners of New Ltd);

    - The stunts, the non-politician schtick and constant references to “doing the right thing for ordinary Australians” plays perfectly to the ‘low information’ punters that he needs to vote for him and his satraps.

    He has set the stage perfectly for more, far more, self-interested involvement in Australian policy.

  49. Tintarella di Luna

    j

    ust wondering, but if councils stacked with swampies donate ratepayers money to ‘crowdfunding’ swampy projects, is it really crowdfunding?.

    No it’s our effing money and they have to account to ratepayers. That’s a very good question john

  50. Tintarella di Luna

    …whore Gore

    yes price is the only quibble point

  51. Robbo

    Al Gore is a hypocritical tool. Clive Palmer is a fat useless buffoon with self interest the only item on his agenda. These two wankers deserve each other.

  52. jupes

    Why do we continue to discuss any form of market mechanism?

    It’s insane. Literally.

  53. MT Isa Miner

    Tom

    #1360662, posted on June 26, 2014 at 9:00 am

    Transcript of Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen feeding his favourite chook.

    Ahh, those were the times, Tom. I never thought I could go back to the future.

  54. john constantine

    if a council under swampy attack, establishes a ‘department of climate change’ to save the planet from a local level, and loudly celebrates getting more climate change grant money than the department costs–how is this anything except bleeding the ultimate taxpayer,and entrenching extra layers of innefficiency?.

    and next year, when the council gets less grant money than the now larger department costs, swampies silence protest.?. to get grants from swampies in positions to hand out grants, a council has to grant money to other swampies, to prove it is on side with the cause.

    swampies have to pay to go to al gore presentations, to network with other swampies, and build up ‘swamp cred’. no grants without helping build the empire of the swamp.

  55. James of the Glen

    “ABC Radio 891 Adelaide going full bore Abbott666 and Clive with interviews with Mark Butler ALP and Sarah Sea-Patrol. This mob aren’t good enough to clean my toilet!!!!!!!”

    Missed that, Mike. Was it “Matt an’ Dave”? Poor old Dave is still recovering from our children’s participation in Anzac Day (he seems to suggest it’s only a matter of time before they will be marching in torchlight parades and drilling in parkland battalions with wooden rifles).

    There has been a concerted effort by the two of late to fall more in line with the ABC meme. It’s noticeable Matt now attempts mockery (when he can fit in a short sentence should he pause long enough from laughing at his own amazing wit) in line with the ABC’s SOP.

  56. Poor Old Rafe

    Good call Dr Faustus! (10.35)

    Pure gold from the clip at 9.00

    TONY JONES: Why shouldn’t we regard this whole piece of extraordinary, admittedly extraordinary political theatre as nothing more than a stunt like your old boss Joh Bjelke-Petersen, feeding the chooks to keep them occupied?

    CLIVE PALMER: Well you don’t look like a chook to me, Tony, you look like a very skilled journalist and a very capable person. You’re hardly a chook. You’re hardly a chook, my friend/

  57. manalive

    Pure gold from the clip at 9.00 …

    It goes over my head, pure drivel IMO.

  58. Paul

    Up there as the most bizarre of stunts I’ve yet seen in Australian politics. I can’t believe a man of Gore’s mendacity and cunning could be so stupid. There’s gotta be more to it than meets the ear, but given Palmer’s craziness, I suspect not.

  59. candy

    My understanding of “direct action” has always been that it is a stop-gap measure between ending the carbon tax and participating in an international scheme (whatever that might be)

    I don’t think you can just dismiss that out of hand, Prof. D.
    We are committed to 5% reduction in emissions. It’s a policy Libs went to election with and have said many many times, and Tony Abbott has re-iterated it internationally just recently with Barack Obama.

  60. srr

    Clive, the thundering dinosaur shaking Greenies out of their plastic, high-tech trees, other hypocrites off their high-horses and sinking them in his Titanic ship of know-it-all fools.

    It’s a monstrously gigantic role to play in this epic war story, and he was made for the part, not in the least because battlefield humour keeps soldiers going into the next battle, instead if going insane.

    No Career Politician would do what Clive does, even if they could, but smart politics called for a Clivenator type weapon to be deployed against the hoards of religiously green scam peddling, cradle to trough, career politicians eating everyone alive.

  61. H B Bear

    Moose Knuckles hits the nail on the head.

    Better get those chimpanzees some typewriters and get them started on the works of Shakespeare.

  62. brc

    I don’t know.

    I won’t be satisfied until the carbon tax is gone, the CEFC gone, the RET gutted and all the paraphanerlia created to support an ETS is dismantled.

    This means no greenhouse accounting office, no co2 emissions reporting, basically going back to where we were in maybe 2001. A PM that is openly sceptical, no legislation or taxes and no way of even working out how to tax someone on energy production.

    If you leave even two scraps of this legislation lying around, the next time a greens/labor coalition gets back in, it will reassemble like the T1000 in Terminator 2- lots of little GONGOs and QUANGOs reattaching and reassembling to become the beast again. It needs to be properly obliterated, smashed. Departments dissolved. Legislation repealed. Reporting abandoned. Public opinion permanently turned.

    I don’t hold out much hope. I feel like someone campaigning against income tax in the early part of the 20th century. They probably had a few early wins as well. 100 years later we’re paying nearly 50c in the dollar.

    A basic energy tax is just too enticing for the politicians to ignore. It’s a big fat warm apple pie on the bench and they just can’t keep walking past it. The libs could crush it like they have crushed people smuggling. But will they? I’m not convinced.

  63. Tom

    Be very afraid when the man who’s positioning himself as king of the mooching climate subsidy thieves loves the magic money tree Sir Joh Bjelke-Peterson Jnr is proposing:

    Now it’s conceivable that PUP could pretty much reject the government’s repeal bills as they stand now and instead just leave the legislation for the most part intact. The fixed price of about $25 would be removed, and prices of permits allowed to float freely up to as far as where the price cap was set.

    This might result in a pretty inadequate carbon price, but it would leave in place a quite robust legal architecture that both government and businesses are already geared-up to administer. This could then be reasonably easily ratcheted-up in stringency over time in line with international emission reduction progress.

  64. Peter from SA

    There has been a concerted effort by the two of late to fall more in line with the ABC meme.

    James of the Glen: I have noticed that too … they thought it was a great joke when Abbott made that comment about the ABC not talking Australia down. So I’m listening more to 5AA but hard to take the ads.

  65. john constantine

    abc victorian radio country hour has the abc socialist member for indi, cathy macgowan on for her comment on big clive.

    ” he made everybody in canberra go ‘oh my’” was the savvy political assessment from our socialist abc approved independent.

    “it is a game changer” reports the member for indi, using cool canberra speech.

    —-the abc kept red cathy on, to broadcast that she also claims that ‘the best and the brightest’ from shepparton will probably leave and travel overseas if the changes to the education system go through unchanged.

    red cathy reports she has been speaking to ‘top people’ about it, and they don’t like it.

  66. cuckoo

    Hilarious listening to Radio National this morning, trying to cover the Al Gore incident. Suddenly they couldn’t remember whether we were still at war with climate change Eastasia. When Chris Uhlmann asked Christine Milne why she thought Gore was doing this, she responded that she couldn’t speak on his behalf and that was that. Next question.

    It’s as if Khruschev suddenly appeared beside Kennedy in the White House at the height of the Cold War, endorsing Kennedy’s plan to topple Castro in Cuba.

  67. Rabz

    she responded that she couldn’t speak on his behalf and that was that

    That doesn’t seem to stop the monstrous ol’ crone claiming to speak on everyone else’s behalf though, does it?

    Hypocrite.

  68. feelthebern

    The pic of Palmer on the smh web site looks like he’s winking.
    Or is he just so fat his eyes cant fully open?

  69. Rabz

    INCOMING senator Ricky Muir could split from the Palmer United Party to support “direct action”, as independent senator Nick Xenophon warned failure to replace the carbon tax will “kill off many thousands of jobs”.

    Wow. So much stupid in such a short sentence.

  70. Rabz

    From this morning’s Oz, BTW.

  71. And Another Thing

    After the show and dinner, in that order, do you think Palmer still respected Gore this morning?

  72. brc

    Is anyone else at utter frustration point?

    Australia has voted in two successive governments, both of which made solemn promises of ‘no carbon tax’.

    The current PM deposed his predecessor and rose to prominence within the party and eventually the top job, primarily because he called out the ETS as a great big tax and denounced it.

    Despite voting over and over again overwhelmingly for governments which will not put on a carbon tax, we keep seeing politicians chopping and changing and wiggling trying to implement a carbon tax while pretending they aren’t?

    This issue has been raging for years and years, all the while co2 has been climbing and climbing – with no measurable effects. In fact the temperature hasn’t gone up since before the Sydney Olympics were on.

    AND YET STILL we are being tried to be sold this appalling bit of policy, and the obvious lie that ‘everyone else is’. Even mining people like Clive Palmer and the former BHP guy agitate for the tax to come in.

    JUST DUMP IT ALREADY.

    How can these politicians not get it into their fat heads? There they are, shivering their collective tails off in Canberra, all convinced that taxing a tiny amount of a tiny percentage of world GDP is going to ‘stop’ and ‘fight’ global warming which is not happening anyway. You get rank outsiders, newcomers like Ricky Muir and all of a sudden guys like him are considering the policy on it’s merits, rather than just laughing and saying ‘nobody wants it. My party doesn’t want it. It’s gone’

    Is there something in the water in Canberra? Does the dept climate change have embarrassing photos of them all? What on earth is going on?

  73. hoppers

    What would Muir understand about Direct action for goodness sake?
    Speaking of stupid, sad Days. If the Senate voting system wasn’t screwed, we’d be waving goodbye to Sea Patrol and Ludlum this week.
    Maybe Sea Patrol is good value for comedy value I suppose, but Ludlum, well.

  74. George Brandis thanks for NOTHING

    Hilarious listening to Radio National this morning, trying to cover the Al Gore incident. Suddenly they couldn’t remember whether we were still at war with climate change Eastasia. When Chris Uhlmann asked Christine Milne why she thought Gore was doing this, she responded that she couldn’t speak on his behalf and that was that. Next question.

    They’re wishing up. Eleanor Hall on The World Today asked Don Russell if the environmentalists had simply been played by Clive Palmer.

    The next couple of years promise to be entertaining, at least.

  75. Infidel Tiger

    Did Bay Gay Al get played? Yes.

    So did the zombies at Fairfax:

    Last night’s Lateline interview with Tony Jones is a case in point. If you’re feeling strong, read the transcript and try to understand exactly what is going to happen to the ETS and other carbon-related legislation in what order.
    The most likely translation is that today’s Sydney Morning Herald editorial is incorrect – Palmer’s willingness to axe the carbon tax is not contingent on the adoption of an ETS with the carbon price set at zero.
    The main act in Palmer’s Parliament House circus yesterday – PUP’s commitment to an ETS – falls into the civil rather than criminal law test: a balance of probabilities rather than being beyond reasonable doubt.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/clive-palmers-ets-what-hes-saying-what-hes-thinking-and-what-he-might-actually-mean-20140626-zsme5.html#ixzz35iJr5Qpd

  76. brc

    Ludlum would be gone if the AEC was competent and not infiltrated.

    In the legitimate count, he was out.

    Ballot box gets lost, Greens go on the attack *after* Abbott has his mandate, Ludlum gets back.

    But ballot boxes get lost all the time, right.

    Stealing ballots is way down the list of what good little red guards like the ranks of the greens would do to get their way.

    How many people from the AEC got sacked again?
    What was the outcome from the official investigation, to investigate fraud?

    Silly me.

  77. manalive

    A basic energy tax is just too enticing for the politicians to ignore. It’s a big fat warm apple pie on the bench and they just can’t keep walking past it …

    It’s not just the politicians and assorted statist hangers-on.
    As far as the ETS is concerned it’s also the legal, finance, accounting, banking industries and assorted brokers and commission agents etc. which, I suspect, includes a few commenters to this blog.

  78. James

    Al Gall probably approached Pama trying to stop him repealing the carbon tax. He managed thus far as to keep the CCA, CEFC and ETS at $0.

    Mind you, Pama only wants RET till 2016, can still be changed in Abbotts 2nd term.

  79. Uh oh

    So where is Gore now? Don’t tell me he’s working for Palmer as a FIFO.

  80. James

    Will Australia follow India?

    INDIA is cracking down on foreign-funded charities after receiving an internal report alleging they are costing the country up to three per cent of its gross domestic product (GDP) by rallying communities against polluting industries.

    THE national Investigative Bureau’s report – a copy of which was obtained by the Associated Press – also accuses the groups including Greenpeace, Amnesty International and Action Aid of providing reports “used to build a record against India and serve as tools for the strategic foreign policy interests of Western governments”.

    The Home Ministry on Thursday said it would neither confirm nor deny the existence of the report, which has sparked a firestorm of debate in Indian newspapers and on TV news channels.
    But in a letter last week, the ministry ordered the Reserve Bank of India to hold all foreign contributions to India-based charities until they are cleared by the ministry, spokesman KS Dhatwalia said.
    On Thursday, he said the order would help the government control how much money was coming into India, and how it was being spent. The charities had previously reported annually on how they used their funding.
    The report specifically criticises the charities for organising public protests against nuclear power plants, uranium mines, coal-fired power plants, genetically modified crops and electronic waste.

  81. Cold-Hands

    Gore’s obviously a Savoyard… “Choose your fiction and I’ll endorse it”.

  82. Talleyrand

    Clive played Gore like the $10 oversized violin he is. Paganini himself couldn’t have made this deal sound less off key.

  83. Talleyrand

    Had to rush to an urgent dinner.
    Clive’s perfect day

  84. boy on a bike

    If the govt can’t close down the CEFC etc, they can bind them up in so much green tape, they never make any more loans.

    For instance, they could legislate that it’s ok to build and own a wind farm, but if it kills ANY birds, all the directors and financiers are on the hook for massive penalties. Say $100,000 per bird. Call it “BH&S”, for “Bird Health & Safety”. The legislation would include the need for the wind farm owners to pay an arms-length company to monitor all their wind farms 24×7 with on site personnel for wildlife deaths. Cap that off with quarterly inspections and audits by another company, plus heaps of compliance paperwork to ensure hourly inspections are taking place.

    By the time they work out they have to pay a uni student $100 per hour, every hour of the year to sit in a hut and surf the net, plus an office full of compliance officers, they’ll give up and go and rip off some other bunch of hapless taxpayers.

  85. Palmerston

    Is Clive really opposed to the abolition of the renewable energy target? I don’t recall he had strong views about that issue in the past. Maybe he is holding back support for abolition as a bargaining chip for future concessions closer to his interests.

  86. Tom

    The FMIC is always eager to renew its Bushitler tantrum– this time via the Gore visit:

    He is burdened with the inconvenient truth that years ago he lost the US presidency to George W. Bush, a man whose only known talent was in flushing his country’s reputation down the gurgler.

    Alas, the FMIC knows it has been had and there never will be a Stairway To Heaven genuflection to Gaia in Australia when the adults are in charge:

    And so, job done, Clive and Al hoofed it to dinner, leaving some wondering whether Al had already been consumed as the entree and the hopelessly thoughtful to ponder the meaning of it all.

    We now now exactly what Gore is. All that remains to be discovered in coming weeks is exactly what his fee was.

  87. Des Deskperson

    Did anyone notice that todays SMH and today’s Tele had the same banner headline, ‘Shock and Gore’??

    Co-incidence, plagiarism or just like-minded inanity?

  88. rebel with cause

    I forgot All Gore had a Nobel Prize. The Nobel committee really did hate George Bush.

  89. harrys on the boat

    Did Big Gay Al get played? That’s like asking if a whore gets played if a punter pays for an hour and asks for sex.

    Gore would cut the ribbon at the opening of a brown coal power station if you paid him the right appearance fee.

  90. cuckoo

    It might just have been an example of the principle that, while it’s difficult to con a professional con artist, it’s often surprisingly easy to con a bullsh!tter. Especially by another bullsh!tter.

  91. Token

    abc victorian radio country hour has the abc socialist member for indi, cathy macgowan on for her comment on big clive.

    She should know better than anyone else, she sits next to Professor Skywhale. I trust that was her reward for Indi.

  92. Dianne

    Okay – there is a parallel universe that is centred on Australia – Flannery on the project saying that this Gore & Palmers announcement – “…will do some good…”

    He confirms what the people living on my side of the universe know – he is a fucking idiot!

  93. Spider

    It might just have been an example of the principle that, while it’s difficult to con a professional con artist, it’s often surprisingly easy to con a bullsh!tter. Especially by another bullsh!tter.

    Cuckoo. Spot on I reckon. Clive is a genius at this sort of theatre and it plays well with disenchanted voters who want to give Abbott a blood nose. Clive is the 21st century PT Barnum and Gore is conjurer and huxster extraordinaire

  94. Squirrel

    Who cares whether Clive paid, or Al got played, this:

    “Yesterday’s announcement translates into:

    We’re going to do nothing, until everyone else does something.”

    is beyond fabulous – a bit of common sense at last.

    Dear little Australia, overly fond of that BS cliche about punching above its weight, has foolishly led with its chin on matters economic in the past, and should be very grateful if it gets off so lightly from this latest deluded exercise in leading the world. The added bonus of Green/Left dismay, disbelief and exploding heads is the double cream on the cake!

    I particularly hope that “direct action” gets ditched. The risks are far too great that it will be hijacked by tree-hugging revanchists at state and municipal level – with serious embuggerances and financial costs ensuing for the general public.

  95. Captain Bastard

    The headline implies that Al Gore actually believes the rubbish he spouts, or spouted in his movie.

    It seems to me that Al, having made his considerable pile taking the global warming industry from the playground for socialist wether geeks to multi billion dollar industry, has sensibly sold out and is content to take a much lower public profile (relatively speaking). He knows full well that this little jaunt will attract precisely zero interest in the US and Europe, and have absolutely no effect on his standing or ability to charge full freight for future engagements.

    Al likely got paid half a million plus expenses for about two days work. If you think that’s the actions of a stupid man, well I’m glad you make that much and more.

    You may not have any respect for the man (Lord knows I don’t), but you’d have to admit that he’s a little more savvy than two bit Gold Coast hustlers like the Palmersaurus.

  96. egg_

    Clive and Al. Hmmm…

    A ManBearPig PUP?

  97. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    So where is Gore now? Don’t tell me he’s working for Palmer as a FIFO.

    Given the titanic bulk of Fat Al, that’d be JIJO.

    Jubble in Jubble out.

  98. Oh come on

    Thinking about the CEFC’s portfolio – I wonder if Gore has any skin in the game? Perhaps he would have lost out if the CEFC was wound up.

  99. Oh come on

    WTF is wrong with news.com.au?

    WTF is right with them? If news.com.au were a politician, it’d be Jacqui Lambie.

  100. ilma

    Did Al Gore get played?

    I wouldn’t be to hasty to assume that. The Gore’s of this world are politicians remember, they always have some scheme going, which in Al’s case normally means cash going his way. He’s up to something, it’s just what, where, when, who and how much?

  101. None

    1. There will be no ETS. Abbott will never agree to that (thank God) and Palmer has no brain to draft the legislation (see the Clive Palmer Sho..er..Lateline).

    2. There will be no world wide ETS. Let’s leave aside how many have woken up to the fact that climate science is a load of crock, FFS, we can’t even agree on a national code of football, you reckon the world is agree to sign up to some global scheme? I was saying that even at the height of hooplah over Copenhagen but nah…fools believe. Not just that, the world can’t even agree to keep its country borders stable.

    3. The eternally destructive Xenophon, the disappointingly unethical Madigan and kangaroo poo-brained Muir may yet try put a spanner in the works according to Van Onselen today. But I say Abbott, will just call their bluff. As he should. Let these micro party and indie Senators out themselves. I predict that they will be even more autocratic than the Greens, have their snouts even deeper in the trough, and that Aussies will hate them more than even Gillard by the end of this term.

    4. Direct Action was the cleverest political tool and policy wedge put together by Abbott et al back in 2009 or whenever. Apart from a great bludgeoning tool (Direct Action uses the same market mechanism as Labor’s water buyback scheme) and election campaign comeback (‘we are the only party with an emissions reduction plan’ in 2010; ‘we will reduce emissions without the carbon tax’ in 2013 etc), its intent was to do nothing that wasn’t going to be done anyway (like plant trees, oh OK, I know but still) and not much more (carbon abatement), thus letting the petals hyperventilate themselves to asphyxiation (or until they find another apocalyptic fantasy for their Messiah fixation) and once the money runs out, DO. NOTHING. AT. ALL.

    5. Abbott always plays the long game. Can’t say the same for the rest of the LNP. But the minute he walked out of the party room when he first won the leadership by one vote (yes he was re-elected unanimously after 2010 election) and uttered the four most devastating words in Aussie political history – “Great. Big. New. Tax” – I knew that he got the climate change nonsense and that he wouldn’t budge at all. See 1.

  102. Fisky

    3. The eternally destructive Xenophon, the disappointingly unethical Madigan and kangaroo poo-brained Muir may yet try put a spanner in the works according to Van Onselen today. But I say Abbott, will just call their bluff. As he should. Let these micro party and indie Senators out themselves. I predict that they will be even more autocratic than the Greens, have their snouts even deeper in the trough, and that Aussies will hate them more than even Gillard by the end of this term.

    Ricky Muir needs to understand that the alternative to six sweet years in the Senate for him is the dole. Madigan was a boilermaker once so he might be able to get a gig around average weekly earnings when he is tossed out at a DD. But both of them have got to get it through their heads that this is it for them, it will never get any better, and if they don’t play their cards right, it will get much worse.

  103. Tel

    Don’t underestimate the Clive, he just got Gore to publicly support the abolishing of the tax AND the abolishing of any chance at an ETS.

    There are certain types of magic that con only be done with money.

    Bastard re Gore:

    You may not have any respect for the man (Lord knows I don’t), but you’d have to admit that he’s a little more savvy than two bit Gold Coast hustlers like the Palmersaurus.

    Clive purchased publicity, what’s so un-savvy about that? Politicians do it all the time, at least Clive spends his own money, which is about as good as it gets. Gore is selling his reputation, over time it will be completely sold and I suppose he can comfortably retire, with luck the people who once believed in him as a hero will learn something.

  104. Robert O.

    If it all goes to plan the PM should knight Professor Clive for his contribution to Australian politics, no carbon tax, no direct action plus a few more intangible benefits such as reining in the greens. Not a bad effort.

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