Dawn of the Planet of the Clichéd

Having just read a review of Dawn of the Planet of the Apes on Spiked I have to warn those of you who have yet to see this mawkish, hackneyed themed piece of unbelievable tosh – don’t bother.  The Spiked review calls it “a masterclass in blockbuster filmmaking, merging memorable characters, excellent performances and an enticing story (in) a multiplex-friendly form.”

The film is number five in the genre.  It represents life after an epidemic has wiped out most humans but left the apes and at least some other animals intact.  The apes are led by a wise, fearless and selfless man “Ceaser” but his lieutenant  is a nasty piece of work, Koba (Stalin’s name, geddit?). 

The apes have blossomed and have become carnivorous, horse riders who hunt deer rather like earlier hunter gatherers used to hunt animals by driving them over cliffs.  Somehow they have become very numerous and are in highly peace-loving (Koba apart) tranquility.  Many of the apes have learned to operate automatic weapons but are paid up members of the anti-gun lobby and forswear their use. They have an internal code “ape does not kill ape” but, rather like Communist Party members of old, when someone (Koba in this case) is to be eliminated first he is declared not to be an ape. 

The humans are living in San Francisco, thousands of them with no visible means of support.  But at least one of them knows how to hook up the power system and fix a broken hydro system and immediately the lights go on and 1970s rock music gets everyone a jigging. 

Koba overturns Ceaser and incites the apes to go on the warpath against the humans, who have been trying for ever to make radio contact with other survivors to no avail.  But just as they are being overrun by apes on horseback, firing captured machine guns they miraculously contact some other group of humans in the far north who agree to come to their rescue.  This is the cue for the announcement of the sequel as Ceaser, newly enthroned after overthrowing Koba and his imperialistic ways (for some reason the apes having prevailed over the San Francisco humans do not kill them all but hold vast numbers in captivity) foretells that ape has killed man and man will demand revenge. 

Once again the stage is set for a familiar stereotype.  The peaceful savage has his life transformed by the murderous, mainly red-necked westerner, and a titanic struggle can be choreographed and serialised for the years to come.

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108 Responses to Dawn of the Planet of the Clichéd

  1. Clam Chowdah

    It was excellent. Pure cowboys and Indians.

    Lighten up, sourpuss.

  2. Craig Mc

    I think there were five PotA movies in the original era, plus the TV series.

    There’s been three recent efforts, so this one is at least the eighth. Rise Of TPOTA was pretty good I thought.

  3. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    None of these ape movies have been more than cliched pap-populist tripe.

  4. Petros

    Just a tidbit of trivia, the original book was written by the same bloke who wrote Bridge on the River Kwai.

  5. Falx

    They all have the same meme; Man = bad, white man = more bad, Anglo Saxon male = most bad evar! We are all gonna die because of us… The premises that a: any drug that increases intelligence in apes will not likewise increase it in ourselves and b: any disease that kills us will not kill our closest relatives are pure codswallop.

  6. Splatacrobat

    Are there any LGTBI apes? Or are they all heteronormative?
    I’d love to see a PotA man & ape SSM on the big screen with a truly inspiring Hollywood social justice message for the kiddies to meditate on.
    You know it makes sense.

  7. Clam Chowdah

    None of these ape movies have been more than cliched pap-populist tripe.

    So what?

  8. Splatacrobat

    I forgot Roddy McDowall was probably the closest Hollywood got to a gay ape. But even then he had to live a lie by being married to Zira.

  9. This is the second movie in the current “imagining” of the storyline and follows on from Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

    Rise of TPOTA had faults but was enjoyable enough… this looks fun enough as well. Sounds like you were taking it too seriously. I haven’t seen it yet, but I’m with Clam – lighten up.

    (I still think the original was the best version – though it had numerous dodgy sequels)

  10. egg_

    Planet of the Animal Farm?

  11. C.L.

    The humans are living in San Francisco, thousands of them with no visible means of support.

    Well, that’s not a stretch.

  12. Yobbo

    Worst movie review I have ever read. Never even tried, and spoiled the ending.

    Go fuck yourself, Alan Moran.

  13. alan moran

    Hey Yobbo you should be thanking me. You don’t need to go and see it now you know the ending – you could read a few chapters of the Iliad or watch a rew episodes of VEEP instead!

  14. egg_

    Are there any LGTBI apes?

    Planet of the Tranny Apes?
    Meets Priscilla Queen of the Desert…

  15. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Clam – really just a subjective personal observation. I have tried to watch these movies and find them unwatchable as they are boring, poorly scripted and above all else utterly predictable. I go to the movies to be entertained. Escapism’s fine, a well-acted story is fine. I am looking forward to ‘Guardians of the Galaxy’ with progeny the youngest and Mrs Mk50 as it’s pure escapism. I liked the Transformers movies (except the last one – way too long as they jammed two movies into one for some reason), I like well acted movies back as far as Basil Rathbone’s wonderful Sherlock Holmes series (1938-1946).

    There’s too much good stuff out there to waste my time watching what I think is boring banal stuff. And to be honest a lot of what Hollywood produces is hideously boring preachy left-wing crap.

    But if you enjoyed the movie, that’s great. A hell of a lot of people will love it and I am fine with that. I happen not to like any of the movies of that series. You might not like Basil Rathbone as Sherlock Holmes!

  16. Infidel Tiger

    John Nolte from far left extremist site Breitbart.com called it one of the best movies of the year and “pro human”.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/07/11/dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-review-nolte

  17. Clam Chowdah

    We occasionally whine here at the Cat about the shit high art boring efforts of Australian government subsidised film, with the consensus being that the free market of ideas should compete for the public’s favour. When that happens, we get a snobby shit high art boring “review”.

    Mk50, I suspect you have not seen this film. It was an excellent dystopian cowboys and Indians adventure film with amazing stunts, special effects, great pacing and some fine acting.

    As for Alan’s review, he wonders how the people in SF support themselves, but must have missed the part about them running off of a dwindling diesel supply. What more detail do you want? It’s a fucking entertainment, not an economic documentary.

    I can imagine the fun in Alan’s home – no fantasy and SF novels, no crime fiction, no computer games, no alcohol, and no sex unless lying down because the neighbours might think you’re dancing!

  18. C.L.

    Like a lot of films of this type, DOTPOTA falls prey to the dilemma Terry Nation didn’t bother grappling with in the 1970s. I mean the casual narrative extrapolation of something happening in one small place to that something happening planet-wide. The people in and around San Francisco have a major ape problem, fine. But how did the apes take over China, Mongolia, Fiji and the Seychelles? Or did they? And if they didn’t, how did Earth ever become the planet of the apes? Yes, there is such a thing as suspension of disbelief but to read some of the reviews, you’d think the sequence and tale presented were credible imaginings of sudden human decline. But, of course, this tells us more about the fin de siècle fetishisation of life-loathing catastrophism, especially within the dark green commentariat, than it does about putatively silly film-making. After all, just as Nation wanted us to believe a dozen daleks were an existential threat to NATO, the makers of DOTPOTA are entitled to cut logical corners for the sake of drama and fun. But if Alan is lamenting the broad tendency of Hollywood to turn even drama and fun into ideological warfare and left-wing propaganda, I agree. And they’ve very clever doing it, too. Take the Bourne trilogy. Great action, great fights, great pace. And while you’re absorbing every masterful parkour scene and Krav Maga improvisation, you miss – or, rather, you passively inhale – the lesson that America itself is always the ultimate evil.

  19. nilk

    Okay, I’m sniggering here. I’ve got the original with Chuck and Roddy on in the background at the behest of the offspring. It’s one of our favourites.

    I don’t think I’ll be seeing this new one any time soon.

    “It’s a madhouse! a MADHOUSE!!!1!”

  20. MartinG

    Yobbo
    #1403205, posted on August 3, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    Worst movie review I have ever read. Never even tried, and spoiled the ending.

    Go fuck yourself, Alan Moran.

    You’re the kind of prick that watched Avatar and thought it had something profound to say about society. By the way Gasland was a fictional film, not a documentary
    .

  21. Clam Chowdah

    CL raises a good point. But Alan didn’t raise it.

  22. Clam Chowdah

    The point about the US.

    The other issue – how the planet became dominated by apes – is less problematic. An airborne virus has wiped out most of humanity and boosted ape intelligence. Again, in an entertainment, not much else is really needed.

    AS for the Daleks, Nation never considered stairs, but who cares?

  23. stackja

    The Truth about the “Hollywood Ten”
    The publication of these works, and more fundamentally the cultural shift in Hollywood to domination by a bien peasant Left that started around 1960 and accelerated in the 1970s, has led to the lionization of the Unfriendly Ten as American “rebels” and martyred “non-conformists.”

  24. jumpnmcar

    And the best place to stream this terrible film ?

  25. Kae

    Apes have become carnivorous?

    They are now.

  26. Yobbo

    But how did the apes take over China, Mongolia, Fiji and the Seychelles? Or did they?

    If you had watched the film or the previous film you wouldn’t have to ask such a stupid question.

    The apes took over because of an experimental virus escaping the lab and killing off 98% of the human population.

  27. Kae

    I saw film of some chasing down a monkey and eating it alive.

  28. John Williams

    Well, it is probably better than watching the ABC….yours or Theirs.
    Or spanking the monkey.
    Not that there is anything wrong with that…….. according to Seinfeld .
    Meh.
    p.s. Wish I knew how to tag a video clip.
    That scene where George Costanza’s Ma tears into him on this very subject is an absolute classic.

  29. Piett

    I read somewhere that the original PotA, book and film, were intended as leftist social commentary. White guys, you think you control everything and run the world, but just try imagining if you were the oppressed and blacks were the masters.

    But with apes standing in for blacks. Yeah. Hollywood can get away with that, but try making that parallel at a Sydney Swans game.

  30. Yobbo

    You’re the kind of prick that watched Avatar and thought it had something profound to say about society.

    As opposed to the sort of prick who watches a blockbuster action movie and then gives it a negative review because it didn’t say enough about economics and communism? And spoils the ending while writing his idiotic review?

    Once more for effect: Go fuck yourself Alan Moran. And whoever greenlighted this awful post should give themselves an uppercut.

  31. stackja

    Yobbo
    #1403250, posted on August 3, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    I never watched the film or the previous film. It sounds stupid.

  32. stackja

    Yobbo
    #1403254, posted on August 3, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    Very nice language.

  33. Token

    Once more for effect: Go fuck yourself Alan Moran. And whoever greenlighted this awful post should give themselves an uppercut.

    LOL, once again winning people over with wit and whimsy.

    Never change Yobbo, you are a great ad for the LDP.

  34. Yobbo

    I never watched the film or the previous film.

    I assume that’s because they are beneath you. Yawn.

    Catallaxy spends 90% of the time bemoaning wankers and the other 10% pretending to be said wankers.

  35. calli

    Alan…Chuck has the best response to movie spoilers…evah. :)

  36. calli

    Oh…it could be styled a “Liberty Quote”. [runs]

  37. stackja

    Yobbo
    #1403260, posted on August 3, 2014 at 7:41 pm
    90% of the time bemoaning wankers and the other 10% pretending to be said wankers.

    Autobiographical?

  38. I’m inclined to agree with Yobbo here… you didn’t seem to know the film was a sequel (which showed the origin of the outbreak), and then just junked the movie for the sake of it. As I said, I haven’t seen it yet, and considered your review pretty spoilerish, but decided to let that slide since I was kind of expecting it to go that way (though you really should provide a warning in reviews, even if you think it’s shit).

    Do you even like sci-fi, Alan? Or any of the other ape movies? This was the first one you ever watched?

    Like I said… I still intend seeing it. Was even thinking I’d use my Gold Class voucher to do so (avoids kids that way – plus, then I can drink, which I find makes most movies more enjoyable anyway)

  39. stackja

    Fleeced
    #1403269, posted on August 3, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    I liked Robby the Robot.

  40. Clam Chowdah

    It’s excellent, Fleeced. Enjoy.

  41. Piett

    It’s possible to be a blockbuster action movie or TV without inane greenie or leftist messages — and still be an intelligent entertainment for adults. (Upthread Mark50 mentioned liking the Transformers movies. Dude, if I were you, I wouldn’t admit to that in public.)

    Case in point: Game of Thrones. I’m making my way through Season 1 now on DVD (I believe I’m the only person in Australia not to torrent it) and I think it’s fantastic. And no green or left-wing bullshit at all (apart from the ever-present class system, but that’s perfectly reasonable given the setting). And GoT is a massive public success, the TV equivalent of a blockbuster. (No spoilers please, even for Season 1, or I’ll hunt you down and insert a halberd up your butt.)

  42. Craig Mc

    CL: actually, the original PotA lore had it that all the dogs were killed by the virus, so humans adopted apes as companion animals.

    Because of course you would. Who wouldn’t want a pet that throws its poop, climbs everything, rips owners’ faces off, and occasionally rapes them?

  43. Craig Mc

    The humans are living in San Francisco, thousands of them with no visible means of support.

    Well, that’s not a stretch.

    CL: Funniest thing I’ll read tonight.

  44. cynical1

    I heard the thing was being banned.

    Goodes was heartbroken when he saw the title…

  45. C.L.

    If you had watched the film or the previous film you wouldn’t have to ask such a stupid question.

    Oh.

    Who’s stupid?

    Worst movie review I have ever read. Never even tried, and spoiled the ending.

    Go fuck yourself, Alan Moran.

  46. C.L.

    In other film review news, I finally got around to buying Blade Runner.

    Started watching it last night.

    Hit the stop/eject buttons after ten excruciating minutes.

  47. calli

    Hit the stop/eject buttons after ten excruciating minutes.

    No “tears in rain” for you then. Hint – you have to watch it to the end.

  48. Clam Chowdah

    In other film review news, I finally got around to buying Blade Runner.

    Started watching it last night.

    Hit the stop/eject buttons after ten excruciating minutes.

    In related news, rock and roll is the devil’s music.

  49. Yobbo

    Never change Yobbo, you are a great ad for the LDP.

    Excellent concern trolling, Token.

    I like the way you pretend you’d vote LDP if only it wasn’t for the fact that someone else, somewhere in the world who also voted for them was mean to you once.

    Who the fuck do you think you are kidding? Certainly not any of us.

  50. Yobbo

    Oh.

    Who’s stupid?

    I’m not sure I understand exactly how you’re saying I’m stupid there CL.

  51. Yobbo

    Because FWIW you don’t have to have seen this movie to know how the apes came to become dominant, since that happened at the end of the last one.

  52. C.L.

    In related news, rock and roll is the devil’s music.

    That doesn’t even make sense.

  53. caveman

    If that was the directors cut of Blade Runner I didnt like it as much as the original screen version.

  54. john constantine

    “it is one hundred and six miles to chicago,we have a full tank of gas,half a pack of cigarettes,it’s dark and we are wearing sunglasses”.

    why can’t they produce movies like this anymore?. [okay cocaine killed the chances of a decent sequel].

    did the culture change for the better,or did it go off the rails?.

  55. Clam Chowdah

    That doesn’t even make sense.

    You’re either being a stick in the mud or an iconoclast.

    ;)

  56. Clam Chowdah

    If that was the directors cut of Blade Runner I didnt like it as much as the original screen version.

    Totally agree. And that’s an even more iconoclastic view than the one CL is expressing.

  57. And if they didn’t, how did Earth ever become the planet of the apes?

    The same way that baseball has the “World Series”. Oh, wait, there’s a Canadian team in there somewhere. My bad.

  58. I prefer the original release of Blade Runner to Director’s Cut as well… they either is an acquired taste. I love sci-fi, but couldn’t watch it hen I was a kid at all – I found it boring… I appreciated it as I got older.

    For someone who doesn’t really go for sci-fi type movies in the first place, I’d suggest Blade Runner is probably not the movie for them.

    Try watching Serenity, CL. That might be a bit more “accessible” to non-sf Cats (and it has a libertarian vibe)

  59. C.L.

    Yobbo and the Chamster appear to have been smoking crack or something.

    Can anyone tell me what they’re talking about?

    Yobbo knows every detail of a movie whose ending Alan spoiled (earth to Yobbo: that the franchise continues to the battle phase has been widely reported, a la the 45 year-old predecessor series); Cham is positing the notion of Blade Runner (starring Harrison Ford and Rutger Hauer – possibly the most boring human males in the pre-Windsor/Oakeshot era) being as revolutionary and culturally challenging as Elvis Presley’s hip-thrusts; or something.

    Seriously, lay off the gear.

  60. I love sci-fi, but couldn’t watch it when I was a kid at all

    That is, I couldn’t watch Blade Runner as a kid.

  61. Because of course you would. Who wouldn’t want a pet that throws its poop, climbs everything, rips owners’ faces off, and occasionally rapes them?

    You sound like a wowser.

  62. Yobbo

    CL you apparently don’t know the definition of spoiler. That’s understanding, you are old and out of touch with modern pop culture. I don’t mean that Alan spoiled the movie for me. I mean that he included spoilers in his review. A big no-no when reviewing movies. Especially if your review has no redeeming features.

  63. C.L.

    I love sci-fi, Fleeced.

    Though I’m more of a space man than a dystopian future bla bla bla fan.

    Outland is a great movie.

  64. I love sci-fi, Fleeced.

    Though I’m more of a space man than a dystopian future bla bla bla fan.

    Did you watch Serenity?

  65. C.L.

    I don’t mean that Alan spoiled the movie for me. I mean that he included spoilers in his review. A big no-no when reviewing movies.

    Uh-huh.

    Because hundreds of thousands of people are reading Alan Moran’s film reviews at Catallaxy.

    And the fact that the film sets up a sequel for control of Earth is unknown to everyone under 12.

  66. Rousie

    Watched this with my boy after having seen the first one together.
    No overt subtext IMO.

    Is the banality of the post trying to balance out Numbers in the Catallaxy equation or something?

  67. C.L.

    Haven’t seen it, Fleeced, no.

    I’ll be sure and do so on your recommendation.

  68. Yobbo knows every detail of a movie whose ending Alan spoiled (earth to Yobbo: that the franchise continues to the battle phase has been widely reported, a la the 45 year-old predecessor series);

    There’s no ending worth noting when there’s a sequel in the offing. Even worse when they replace the successful predecessor with a music video producer.

  69. JC

    Worst movie review I have ever read. Never even tried, and spoiled the ending.

    Go fuck yourself, Alan Moran.

    No Yobbo. I mentioned years ago that the worst review I’ve ever to the point of anger… because it caused be to waste 5 bucks on the DVD rental…. was yours about some tripe set in Asia called the book reader or some shit. I’ve never really forgiven you after than and I still reckon you owe me five bucks. Pay up.

  70. Did you watch Serenity?

    Pure awesomeness. Cowboys in space. What’s not to love?

  71. Gab

    Did you watch Serenity?

    Great movie but best to watch the TV series Firefly first as the movie followed the end of the series and tied up loose ends.

  72. Clam Chowdah

    Yobbo knows every detail of a movie whose ending Alan spoiled (earth to Yobbo: that the franchise continues to the battle phase has been widely reported, a la the 45 year-old predecessor series); Cham is positing the notion of Blade Runner (starring Harrison Ford and Rutger Hauer – possibly the most boring human males in the pre-Windsor/Oakeshot era) being as revolutionary and culturally challenging as Elvis Presley’s hip-thrusts; or something.

    I was merely mocking your “I’m baffled by the youth culture and am off to smoke my pipe over the latest Samuel Coleridge” shtick, which you dust off occasionally.

  73. stackja

    James Shigeta, the famed character actor who played memorable roles in Die Hard (1988) and musical Flower Drum Song (1961) has died. [4 days ago]

  74. stackja

    Die Hard (1988)
    Fritz: They’re using artillery on us!
    Hans Gruber: You idiot, it’s not the police. It’s *him*!
    [referring to McClane]

  75. Clam Chowdah

    Outland is a pretty good flick. Also a Western in SF clothing, like the Apes movie.

  76. Kae

    The World was a newspaper, sponsor of The World Series.

  77. C.L.

    I was merely mocking your “I’m baffled by the youth culture and am off to smoke my pipe over the latest Samuel Coleridge” shtick, which you dust off occasionally.

    Blade Runner an embodiment of “youth culture”?

    I hadn’t even finished school when it came out.

    Malcolm Fraser was still prime minister.

  78. Blade Runner an embodiment of “youth culture”?

    I hadn’t even finished school when it came out.

    Malcolm Fraser was still prime minister.

    By gum, he’s right. I was a sprightly 12 year old.

  79. C.L.

    [Outland] Also a Western in SF clothing

    Deep call, Cham.

    Here’s the poster.

  80. Anyway, if you must have dystopia, Brazil is better.

  81. Talleyrand

    I hate every monkey from chimpanA to chimpanZee.
    Help Me Dr Zaius ( The Simpsons)

  82. Kae

    I don’t like apes and monkeys. They freake out.

    Can’t stand movies with them in, yuk.

  83. Gab

    I don’t like apes and monkeys. They freake out.

    Can’t stand movies with them in, yuk.

    I fell the same way, Kae.

  84. JC

    I don’t like apes and monkeys. They freake out.

    You think? I reckon it’s a dead franchise that may have been fun to watch in the 70′s when the series was around, but it just seems a little too much dusted off 70′s sci fi to me.

  85. Kae

    They freak ME out.

    Bloody iPhone.

  86. Gab

    Creepy alright, in particular the baboons. Horrid.

  87. Talleyrand

    Yobbo, on spoilers- in the words of my favourite film reviewer Mark Kermode:
    “It’s a sled; she’s a he; and he is actually dead. Now get over it “

  88. Clam Chowdah

    Blade Runner an embodiment of “youth culture”?

    I hadn’t even finished school when it came out.

    Malcolm Fraser was still prime minister.

    It appears then that I win the out of touch posturing competition.

    Fetch me my slippers!

  89. Senile Old Guy

    Clam – really just a subjective personal observation.

    Which is pretty much what most reviews are.

    But remember…

    Having just read a review of Dawn of the Planet of the Apes

    AM has not even seen this movie. His recommendation is based on reading a review.

    It is the stupidest post I have read on the Cat.

  90. Demosthenes

    Why would anyone go to see Dawn of the Sequel of the Prequel of the Reboot of the Planet of the Apes anyway? It has no chance of even aspiring to the cult B-movie status of the original, and the kajillion other films in between have surely squeezed out all the drama and impact. What is it with Hollywood and the compulsive inability to innovate?

  91. Senile Old Guy

    The film is number five in the genre.

    What does that even mean? This movie is not the fifth in the series. There were five movies in the original series, followed by Tim Burton’s remake. This is the second in the new series.

    The genre is “dystopian science fiction” and this movie is certainly not “number five” in that genre in any sense. I am hoping AM’s economics is better than his movie reviewing.

    “I have to warn those of you who have yet to see this mawkish, hackneyed themed piece of unbelievable tosh – don’t bother. ”

    As noted, AM’s review is (apparently) based on the (positive) Spiked review. Of the original movie, Roger Ebert wrote: “My highly reliable public opinion sampling system, consisting entirely of taking the word of taxi drivers for everything, leads me to the conclusion that “Planet of the Apes” is one of this year’s most eagerly anticipated movies….What I’m getting at, I guess, is that “Planet of the Apes” is much better than I expected it to be. It is quickly paced, completely entertaining, and its philosophical pretensions don’t get in the way. If you only condescend to see an adventure thriller on rare occasions, condescend this time. You have nothing to lower but your brow.”

    AM, no doubt, would have hated it. AM appears to be one of those people who have to dismiss anything that does not agree with their world view.

    Do I intend to see the new movie? No. (Although I might watch it if it turns up on TV.) But this is because (a) I’m a bit bored with talking animals (however well done they are); and (b) I’ve seen* a lot of dystopian SF, so am also rather bored with that genre.

    I have also read a lot of dystopian SF, including the book that started this series. The first movie was better than the book, which I found rather dull and disappointing (having seen the movie first).

  92. thefrollickingmole

    Brazil
    Blade Runner
    Sunshine

    Thats dystopian future stuff, hell even 28 days later is more sci fi than the apes stuff..

    Still each to their own, I hated the first apes movie and couldnt be bothered with the others.

  93. C.L.

    Yes, Poppa Clam.

    I’m out of touch with 1982.

    Guilty.

  94. Token

    What is it with Hollywood and the compulsive inability to innovate?

    Risk management. An existing franchise (be it movie, book, comic) has a higher chance of breaking even than an original concept due to the fact it is a recognised brand.

    This has been reflected by the fact the best writers in the US entertainment industry have moved to TV as there is no real market for their services in the movie business.

  95. Token

    I reckon it’s a dead franchise that may have been fun to watch in the 70′s when the series was around, but it just seems a little too much dusted off 70′s sci fi to me.

    In a world full of post armageddon flicks ranging from zombies to apes, what really is fresh here?

    The comic & video game worlds have a lot more interesting material in this genre and push the creative boundaries a lot harder.

  96. entropy

    I mean the casual narrative extrapolation of something happening in one small place to that something happening planet-wide. The people in and around San Francisco have a major ape problem, fine. But how did the apes take over China, Mongolia, Fiji and the Seychelles?

    Obviously the heavy layer of bong smoke protected the San fransico population from the worst effects of the virus. Everyone else was dead.

    Mind you, how do they explain the head of the Statue of Liberty washing up on a San fransico beach?

  97. goatjam

    “[video games] have a lot more interesting material in this genre and push the creative boundaries a lot harder.”

    Yes, but this is rapidly changing as the games industry becomes more like hollywood. Endless sequels on existing franchises are becoming the norm there too. There are still some exceptions occasionally.

  98. Clam Chowdah

    I’ll get your brown cardie and slippers, Monsignor CL.

  99. Mr Skeletor

    AM has not even seen this movie. His recommendation is based on reading a review.

    It is the stupidest post I have read on the Cat.

    Agree. Its a review based on a review. What the fuck?

    I thought it was a great flick. It was hardly a left wing love fest, unless you can’t handle “war is terrible” as a message. If anything I found the ending somwhat right wing.

    Maybe Alan should watch the thing before making an ass of himself again?

  100. stackja

    Set in unoccupied Africa during the early days of World War II: An American expatriate meets a former lover, with unforeseen complications.

    Does not sound interesting to me.

  101. TerjeP

    The premises that a: any drug that increases intelligence in apes will not likewise increase it in ourselves and b: any disease that kills us will not kill our closest relatives are pure codswallop.

    The virus did increase human intelligence which is what it was meant to do. If you don’t know what went wrong after that then go watch Rise of the Planet of the Apes. It’s actually a good movie.

  102. calli

    Yobbo, on spoilers- in the words of my favourite film reviewer Mark Kermode:
    “It’s a sled; she’s a he; and he is actually dead. Now get over it “

    Love it.

    Citizen Kane, The Crying Game, The Sixth Sense.

    Do a get a Smartie? Hehheh…autocorrect made that the Suxth Sense. Kiwi or critic? :)

  103. Alan Moran

    Skeletor you idiot. AM has seen the movie just wishes he hadn’t. Anti-western agitprop masquerading as a western action movie. Why do you think he wrote a review?

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