Lazy, lazy, lazy

The Liberals are getting stick all over the press this morning about the failed budget. Andrew Bolt has the round up of views. But it is this vignette in Chris Kenny’s piece this morning that sums up the problem:

In Madonna King’s recently released biography, Hockey is reported to complain about a lack of “enthusiasm” from this newspaper in coverage of his 2012 “age of entitlement” speech in London.

Apparently he complained to proprietor Rupert Murdoch.

“I said, ‘what the hell is The Australian doing?’ He was appalled,” Hockey said.

However, you don’t just deliver a speech, give an interview to your ideological enemies at the ABC and expect your arguments to take off, or complain to the boss.

As I keep saying Hockey needs to step up. They all do. To remind ourselves, this is what is wrong with Hockey’s budget: it doesn’t cut spending and it doesn’t cut taxes. Given the fact that it doesn’t cut spending and doesn’t return the budget to surplus, there is no prospect to tax cuts in the near future – quite the contrary, not only does the budget increase taxes, the Abbott government is in the process of repealing tax cuts the previous government enacted.

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77 Responses to Lazy, lazy, lazy

  1. Marion of the Glades

    Could not agree more. The man needs to Man UP!

  2. They’re going about it all wrong. They have handed their enemies a collective target with the budget. Alexander the Great would be feigning right while charging the cavalry at their soft underbelly. If they were going to create a big target with the budget, then they should have gone hammer and tongs at the fifth column in government by removing every Labor appointee. They should have simply paid out the contract on the PC head before requesting the report on Child Care, and likewise in every federal authority, as well as any minions brought in by them.

    The Libs should have opened fronts everywhere to disallow a single point of attack for leftards, or use the budget as a diversion for bigger fish to fry. Why is this so goddamned difficult?

    They’re all driving me to drink, I tells ya!

  3. Token

    Hockey & Cormann stupidity played into the hands of the hard left by telling the country the budget should be judged by the unmeasurable emotive standard “fairness”. Once they placed themselves in that quagmire, there was no saving the document:

    Somehow the budget is being judged by whether the reduction in tax dollars going to individual welfare recipients is equivalent to extra tax imposts on those funding welfare.

    This is an inane way to assess policy that aims to reduce reliance on welfare and increase opportunities for people to become self-reliant and net tax contributors.

    This and similar blogs went red hot when that blunder occured. I trust the Labor-Lite Party has not learned and reading about what Dopey Joe put in his biography, he never will.

  4. EB

    The man had lapband surgery.

    It’s a good indicator you’re a lazy slob.

  5. Token

    They have handed their enemies a collective target with the budget. Alexander the Great would be feigning right while charging the cavalry at their soft underbelly.

    The Coalition acting more like the Persians at Issus and Gaugamela than Alexander. Lucky for them Dolly has the tactical nouse of Ptolemy XIII and advisors of similar skill.

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    The LNP has to hammer the ALP over and over: show the voters your plan for balancing the budget.

    PUP and the Greens too.

    Over and over and over and over.

  7. Badjack

    EB @11-12am your comment is an indicator you are a moron and don’t know what you are talking about.

  8. H B Bear

    When the loss of a dollar of welfare is somehow regarded as the moral equivalent of an extra dollar of taxation there is no hope for a rational argument around balancing the Budget.

    You have entered the world of free Obamaphones.

  9. Staphy

    The man had lapband surgery.

    It’s a good indicator you’re a lazy slob.

    Exactly. He elected the leaner’s way out of his own problems, and now he seeks to lectures us.

  10. Badjack

    @Staphy…another moronic comment

  11. Mr Rusty

    Hockey & Cormann stupidity played into the hands of the hard left by telling the country the budget should be judged by the unmeasurable emotive standard “fairness”.

    Precisely. Every time they fall for lefty tactics they lose and they do it EVERY BLOODY TIME.
    Idiots.
    The message should have been hammered home in 3 simple points;

    1. Labor handed out money we did not have to those less well off to buy their votes and this is unsustainable. We are angry that Labor lied, misled and deceived you.
    2. Nobody is getting any breaks, freebies or concessions. The cold hard truth is that the money does not exist, it was invented by Labor to deceive you.
    3. In many cases the money used to deceive and bribe you is your money anyway that comes from your taxes or will come from your children in the future. Do you like borrowing money from your children?

    Simple, emotive and lays the blame firmly at the previous incompetents.
    And Hockey thinks a speech made on the other side of the world 2 years ago and published in a paper that maybe 10% (mostly Lib voters) read is going to do the job?
    Sack your PR team Libs, they couldn’t sell a bottle of gin to Mike Carlton.

  12. Staphy

    BadJack supports Sloppy Joe’s ability to budget fiscally, despite his obvious failure to budget calorically.

  13. The man had lapband surgery.

    It’s a good indicator you’re a lazy slob.

    Yep. Total lack of discipline.

    And his idea of wanting an “even tougher budget” is higher taxes. He has the same outlook as Labor – that tax cuts are an “increase in spending”. I think that I now hate him even more than Turnbull.

    What a wasted opportunity it all was… people loathed Gillard so much that it should have been easy. A once in a lifetime gift on a platter. Wasted.

  14. EB

    @Badjack

    Cheers mate, I’ll take that on board.

  15. Had your stomach stapled, Badjack?

    If only we could staple government spending.

  16. Driftforge

    Made (effectively) none of the cuts necessary; received all the opprobrium that he would have achieved if he had.

    Idiot.

  17. They raised taxes; didn’t cut spending; and they broke a whole heap of election promises. Those promises didn’t need to be broken. They were discretionary betrayals, every one of them.

    Also, they did the unthinkable and stuck the knife in the back of their core support group: pensioners.

  18. Mr Rusty

    Made (effectively) none of the cuts necessary; received all the opprobrium that he would have achieved if he had.

    And ensured any future Lib Government will be too shit scared to enact a tough-but-necessary budget reversing the previous Labor spendathon.

    The left win again, Pyrrhic victory that it is.

  19. Hockey & Cormann stupidity played into the hands of the hard left by telling the country the budget should be judged by the unmeasurable emotive standard “fairness”.

    They thought that if they took from everyone, people would see a kind of morality in the broad picture.
    They were wrong.
    IT was a simplistic moral equation and a transparent one at that. And if you’re going to take more money from us, we need to see a tangible result for our pain. Like, oh, let’s see…. a surplus, for example.

  20. Badjack

    @ Fleeced..no I haven’t… but I have a daughter who has had lapband surgery so I understand the process and why it is done. Your comments and those of Staphy and EB are ignorant of the facts and an insult to those who take the opportunity to look after their health. It takes more discipline after the surgery and their lifestyle changes dramatically. You people are the “sloppy” ones who are too sloppy and lazy to research before you open your traps.

  21. Empire

    Badjack
    #1404936, posted on August 5, 2014 at 11:29 am

    That’s the way.

    Hockey is a man who refuses to exercise control over his hand’s desire to connect with his mouth, but anyone who states this self evident fact is a moron. How so?

  22. goatjam

    They are a bunch of useless twunts. They should have gone hard in the first budget. They should have done all the things necessary to return do the following

    1) Cut into the entitlement culture
    2) Return the budget to surplus
    3) Reduce taxes to promote economic recovery
    4) Dismantle all of the leftist dominated commissions and assorted grief-monging quangos.

    All of these aims are complimenary.

    They would have taken a TONNE OF HEAT in the first year but the fickle public would have forgotten that by the next election assuming the economy was in good shape.

    Instead, they did nothing to cut entitlement culture, raised taxes and there is no budget surplus anywhere in sight and for that disappointing result they have taken a TONNE OF HEAT anyway.

    Even worse is that a lot of that heat is coming from their own side of politics! You couldn’t screw things up more if you tried.

    What a complete bunch of losers the LNP are.

  23. Petros

    Whoever advises these guys is an idiot. Do they only have two friends? Who do they survey for ideas/opinions?

  24. egg_

    As politics is described as “show business for ugly people”, “prop with dialogue”, Staples, needs a better scriptwriter. /sarc

  25. egg_

    The man had lapband surgery.

    Also seems to be a prerequisite for the couch collective commentariat.

  26. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Badjack at 12:33 pm:

    “@ Fleeced..no I haven’t… but I have a daughter who has had lapband surgery so I understand the process and why it is done. Your comments and those of Staphy and EB are ignorant of the facts and an insult to those who take the opportunity to look after their health. It takes more discipline after the surgery and their lifestyle changes dramatically. You people are the “sloppy” ones who are too sloppy and lazy to research before you open your traps.”

    Badjack – before bagging contributors who “don’t know nuffin’ – shut yer traps” you might wonder why your eyes didn’t, over a decade or more, tell you that which is self evident. One doesn’t need to have expert knowledge to conclude that “Uncle Buck” Hockey didn’t have the self discipline to stop doing the things that made him very, very fat.

    There are several other glaring examples of the same failing – the slag from Altona and her loyal (for a little while) Emily’s lister ministers who literally waddled hideously for the cameras in their sack suits as they huffed and puffed with difficulty about the Parliament House corridors. Young persons’ botherer Bob Collins, Senator Kim Carr, the Member for FairlyFat and, from last night’s Q&A, Nova Peris-Buffet-Gold! come to mind too.

    They pretend to high office and they ought to demonstrate their worthiness in all respects. If they held equivalent positions in modern corporations they’d be required to present themselves way better.

  27. Mmmm, I’d be looking at the surgery more as a a kind of ‘I can’t wait for results’ approach to life. Hockey is impatient; he wants visible results quickly.

    I think this has also been reflected in the budget fiasco – ‘Why isn’t everyone praising me?’ he wails, when he simply has not done the hard yards yet.

  28. George Brandis thanks for NOTHING

    Hockey has demonstrated stupidity and laziness every day since he was elected to parliament.

    He has also demonstrated an expectation that others would do his work for him, and read his mind – and then childish frustration when this didn’t occur.

    Why would anyone have expected that pattern of behaviour to change once he became treasurer??

    The LNP has to hammer the ALP over and over: show the voters your plan for balancing the budget.

    PUP and the Greens too.

    Over and over and over and over.

    Agreed Bruce.

    It’s so simple. It’s child’s play.

    And Hockey is so fracking stoopid he still doesn’t get it. The Trades Union party can’t believe their luck!

    What a wasted opportunity it all was… people loathed Gillard so much that it should have been easy. A once in a lifetime gift on a platter. Wasted.

    Agreed. Look at the Newspoll stats. Support for the Coalition plunged straight after the budget. Hockey’s budget. Their great opportunity, and this dimwit fumbled the ball on the tryline.

    They raised taxes; didn’t cut spending; and they broke a whole heap of election promises. Those promises didn’t need to be broken. They were discretionary betrayals, every one of them.

    Also, they did the unthinkable and stuck the knife in the back of their core support group: pensioners.

    Yes, 100%. Just how fracking stupid is the man. How lazy is he? Four years as shadow treasurer, four years to work out what went wrong with Labor’s budgets, tell to all the smart people in he country, and plan a ripper fiscal policy. And he couldn’t do it.

    Jesus, Tony, sack the useless twit and put someone effective, smart and hard-working in the job. Someone who isn’t afraid of the shrieking of the rent-seekers, and understands what needs to be done.

  29. George Brandis thanks for NOTHING

    Sorry: ‘talk to all the smart people in the country’

  30. George Brandis thanks for NOTHING

    Mmmm, I’d be looking at the surgery more as a a kind of ‘I can’t wait for results’ approach to life. Hockey is impatient; he wants visible results quickly.

    I think this has also been reflected in the budget fiasco – ‘Why isn’t everyone praising me?’ he wails, when he simply has not done the hard yards yet.

    That’s half the story Philippa.

    The companion to his impatience, as you suggest in the second paragraph, is that he doesn’t want to do the hard work that achieving the outcome requires.

    This combination of impatience and idleness makes him entirely unfit for high office, let alone the Treasury portfolio.

    Sack him yesterday, please.

  31. egg_

    ‘Why isn’t everyone praising me?’ he wails, when he simply has not done the hard yards yet.

    Narcissism; small wonder he was/is mates with KRudd…

  32. George Brandis thanks for NOTHING

    I think I’ll calm down with some medicinal cannabis.

    Apologies. But I am so angry about this. It was obvious he was out if his depth from the start. He left all the hard work of opposition to Abbott, letting his leader be branded with the ‘Dr No’ tag, and now in power he has stuffed his own side’s fiscal policy.

    Now, where’s mah rollies?

  33. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Pyrmonter at 2:15 pm:

    “MGCQ:

    “Our greatest PM, Menzies

    The greatest finance minister in 20th Century Europe, Ludwig Erhard” Was he?

    Fair enough, P, as I typed I did think “If they held equivalent positions in modern corporations” might be a bit too obscure.

    I’ll let you in on the carefully camouflaged secret that I was directing my comments to 21st century people persons and 21st century expectations.

  34. Call me crazy

    I suppose Hockey is Treasurer. But you must assume others had a hand and especially the PM, who added the PPL like an Albatross about the governments neck.
    And what dill thought we need to spend hundreds of millions a year on putting religion into school rooms??
    They are brown’s cows and we have to assume their persistence in blaming everyone for NOT UNDERSTANDING is a sign of more trouble ahead.
    They even have Goyder getting into them FFS!

  35. goatjam

    “Someone who isn’t afraid of the shrieking of the rent-seekers”

    From where I sit, Abbott is just as afraid of the rent seekers as the rest of them.

    Apart from a couple of standouts (Bishop, Morrison, Pyne) they are all pretty much gutless wonders. Some of them talked the talk in opposition (Hockey “age of entitlement”, Brandis on 18C) but they have utterly failed once given the opportunity to actually make a difference.

    Then there is Malcolm Turnbull. I won’t even go there.

  36. Art Vandelay

    I’m not surprised by their ineptitude and laziness. This Cabinet is filled with many of the dregs of the Howard government (who, incidentally, were also pretty lazy when it came to undertaking tough reforms).

  37. Mr Rusty

    Since it is looking likely the Libs have screwed it up (save for some cunning plan) the very least they can do is to reverse scorch the earth for an incoming Labor Government. 2016 budget; slash income & corporate tax to 20% flat rate, sell or defund ABC & SBS, defund and close Federal education & health, legislate 10 year wait and no welfare for boaties (who will flood in), tax Unions and impose oversight and reporting equivalent to businesses, slash every green subsidy and all arts funding. Then sit back and watch the fun as Labor spend 3 years trying to raise taxes and fix a smashed budget whilst privately muttering to them in the corridors “now you know how it feels”, “welcome to our world” and “payback’s a bitch ain’t it?”.

  38. egg_

    I’m not surprised by their ineptitude and laziness. This Cabinet is filled with many of the dregs of the Howard government (who, incidentally, were also pretty lazy when it came to undertaking tough reforms).

    From previous, the B Team, unfortunately, the ALP are fielding the C Team, thanks to KRudd’s influence (on both parties, and on Murdoch666).

  39. candy

    Joe Hockey is doing a great job.
    He’s trying to work with the new senators who think they are bestowing an honour upon him by talking to him, after being in the Senate for all of one week! Ricky Muir rejected Tony Abbott’s offer to meet the first time as he was “too busy” . J. Lambie is just looking for man with a big salary and a big “package” as her priority.

    The new senators have a unique chance to make a difference to Australia but they are focused on feeling so very special about themselves, like movie stars or something.

  40. What Mr Rusty said.

    I wonder if Mr or Ms Loughnane ever said ‘they’d be getting two for one’, Clinton Style.

    Rus, would you be prepared take a year off without pay to set things straight? JC and a few other Cats could help out with the sackings and cost cutting. Might not even take a year…

  41. MemoryVault

    Apart from a couple of standouts (Bishop, Morrison, Pyne) . . .

    Would that be Christopher Pyne, the Minister for Education, of whom you speak?

    The Christopher Pyne, Minister for Education, who remained utterly silent throughout the Chris Turney Ship of Fools saga down in Antarctica, despite revelations that pretty-much the entire multi-million dollar, global warming propaganda fiasco was funded using university-allocated funds?

    The same Christopher Pyne, Minister for Education, who has just spent nearly a year reviewing our new socialist propaganda preaching, common-core riddled, illiteracy and innumeracy promoting “National Curriculum”, and given it his “seal of approval” (to quote the man hisself).

    If this useless wimp is now to be considered part of the Fiberal ‘A’-Team, then all I can do is call on the wisdom of some previously prominent climate scientists:

    “It’s even worse than we first thought”.

  42. rickw

    Hockey seems to want recognition before results.

  43. Dr Faustus

    Since it is looking likely the Libs have screwed it up (save for some cunning plan) the very least they can do is to reverse scorch the earth for an incoming Labor Government.

    Sadly, it looks like the last Labor government scorched the earth for the next Labor government – with no remission in between.

    I’m awaiting the moment of revelation when Treasury’s beady eyes fix on the $1.5 trillion superannuation system – and the high net worth population – as the magic pudding du jour most likely to get a run through the Senate and fund all the free stuff. I”ve had too many bits clipped off over the past few years to expect otherwise.

  44. egg_

    I’m awaiting the moment of revelation when Treasury’s beady eyes fix on the $1.5 trillion superannuation system – and the high net worth population – as the magic pudding du jour most likely to get a run through the Senate and fund all the free stuff.

    IIRC the pollies have been all that’s been standing between Treasury and that “bucket of money”?

  45. Fisky

    Joe Hockey authorised a biography before even passing a budget. I bet he won’t ever pass a budget as Treasurer. What a clown he is.

  46. MemoryVault

    I’m awaiting the moment of revelation when Treasury’s beady eyes fix on the $1.5 trillion superannuation system –

    Then you missed it, Dr Faustus. In his very first media interview after being named Treasurer, Hockey spoke, NOT of the “looming financial crisis, but of the “need” to “allow” Super Funds to invest in Australian public infrastructure. He outlined his plans to create government-backed “Infrastructure Bonds” that Super Funds could purchase.

    His Minister for Finance offsider, The Ghost Who Walks, was working on this very thing, well before the last election, although I note all mention of it seems to now disappeared from his website.

  47. MemoryVault

    Hockey seems to want recognition before results.

    FIFY

    The only “result” Australian politicians are interested in today, is how many votes did their latest taxpayer-funded promise buy in the targeted voting group.

  48. Petros

    Mr Rusty nails it. Of course, the Libs are a bunch of wimps who would never do that.

  49. MemoryVault

    So, now it’s official:

    Government backtracks on Racial Discrimination Act changes

    The Federal Government has taken contentious changes to racial discrimination laws “off the table” to protect national “unity”, whilst moving to toughen the nation’s security laws to combat home-grown terrorism.

    Another election promise now officially reneged on.

    But not to worry. At least we still have an NBN, the NDIS and Gonski.
    Couldn’t be seen to be breaking any of LABOR’s election promises, could we?
    And let’s not forget Abbott’s own $5.5 billion PPL.
    Plus, of course, our new $20 million medical research fund.
    Financed by throwing pensioners and cripples under a bus.

  50. outsider

    Joe also seems to like the cameras too much, talk about a show pony. All he needed was a 30 year old book by Robert Atkins, for his girth.

    ‘..a lot of that heat is coming from their own side of politics!’
    ALL the heat is coming from the middle and right, the hard left will never vote for the LNP, so they actually managed to lose the average thinking Australian, a shrinking demographic if ever there was one. Their cowardice is already legendary and it will be all downhill from here.

  51. Dr Faustus

    Given the spectacular success of public infrastructure projects over the past decade, absent serious regulatory pressure, government-backed infrastructure bonds will probably have all the market appeal of a night out on the piss in Mosul.

    Myself, I am more concerned with a few bouts of a temporary 2% levy on superannuation balances over, say, $300,000 (defined benefits, naturally, not included). Painless for 85% of the electorate, modest deferred pain for the rest, but raises an instant Gonski, a PPL and pays to build battleships in South Australia on AMWU time.

    A no brainer for those who love to spend my money.

  52. Combine Dave

    Financed by throwing pensioners and cripples under a bus.

    So much for ending the age of entitlement ^^

    Did they bring in the assets test or will there still be wealthy retirees on the old age pension?

  53. MartinG

    MemoryVault

    Then you missed it, Dr Faustus. In his very first media interview after being named Treasurer, Hockey spoke, NOT of the “looming financial crisis, but of the “need” to “allow” “force” Super Funds to invest in Australian public infrastructure. He outlined his plans to create government-backed “Infrastructure Bonds” that Super Funds could must purchase.

    What Hockey was actually saying but without the poli speak camouflage.

  54. Mr Rusty

    Rus, would you be prepared take a year off without pay to set things straight?

    Sorry, don’t do free, especially as I’m still trying to financially make up for 2 years of being crippled by the last Government.
    There’s a buck to be made in any cuts though. Just auction off the rights to personally hand people their notice. The Snowcones could be auctioned off as one, reckon there would be bids in the tens of thousands to be able to walk up to them live on set and say; “Can I interrupt you there? You no longer have a job, empty your desk and be out of the building before the hour is up.” Triggs would fetch some good bids too.

  55. Joe Hockey authorised a biography before even passing a budget. I bet he won’t ever pass a budget as Treasurer. What a clown he is.

    See? Total lack of self restraint – that’s also why he was fat in the first place.

  56. MartinG

    Combine Dave
    #1405249, posted on August 5, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    Did they bring in the assets test or will there still be wealthy retirees on the old age pension?

    Anyone aged 65, living in a property worth 2 million or more should not be allowed to draw on a state funded pension. Why should tax payers line the pockets of the inheritors.

  57. MartinG

    Fleeced
    #1405266, posted on August 5, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    See? Total lack of self restraint – that’s also why he was fat in the first place.

    Why don’t you shut the fuck up about Hockeys operation? It has nothing to do with utter economic incompetence of Abbott and Hockey.

  58. I am the Walrus, Koo Koo K'Choo

    Thankyou Memory Vault.

    I think my moniker says it all.

  59. Marion of the Glades

    Sadly MartinG we have a conservative government, but no relevant competencies. I fear the worst.

  60. MartinG

    MemoryVault
    #1405226, posted on August 5, 2014 at 4:25 pm

    But not to worry. At least we still have an NBN, the NDIS and Gonski.
    Couldn’t be seen to be breaking any of LABOR’s election promises, could we?
    And let’s not forget Abbott’s own $5.5 billion PPL.
    Plus, of course, our new $20 million medical research fund.
    Financed by throwing pensioners and cripples under a bus.

    I hate Abbott. He’s a useless ignorant prick. Would you trust the habitual apologist to fuck with the constitution?

  61. goatjam

    “The Christopher Pyne, Minister for Education, who remained utterly silent throughout the Chris Turney Ship of Fools saga down in Antarctica,”

    Err, yes, I forgot about that. So my list is down to two then. Thanks for that.

  62. Squirrel

    Yes, lazy up to a point, in lacking the persistence and determination to sell the message, but more than that, not very smart in framing the Budget in clear simple terms. They’ve probably made the mistake of taking too much notice of a grab-bag of ideas from officials, and others, with the result that just about everyone is offended and/or disappointed by the Budget.

    The greatest opportunity missed is to frame it clearly as a Budget for the future, and for the benefit of younger generations – had that card been played skilfully, the ground could have been cut from under Labor and the Greens.

  63. goatjam

    “Couldn’t be seen to be breaking any of LABOR’s election promises, could we?”

    The trouble is that they were also LNP election promises. They essentially copied from the Kevin ’07 playbook and simply matched every promise made by The Union Party no matter how ludicrously unfunded it was. It was patently clear at the time that this was possibly the most retarded election strategy ever devised but these cretins pushed on regardless.

    Now they are in government with no clear mandate to do anything (apart from “stop the boats”) and they have nowhere to go. They have a hostile senate to deal with and they are doing everything they can to try and placate a group of people who have no interest in being placated. Instead of comprehending reality which is that ALP/GRN/PUP have no interest in behaving like rational adults they are persisting down this naive conciliatory path that only serves to make them callow and weak.

    They should have made a clear case of what needed to be done BEFORE the election, and when the senate refused to accept their mandate they should have restated their case in even more direct terms and called a DD election.

    The DD is now off the table because these clowns have poisoned any goodwill that they once had, paving the way for a return to another ALP/GRN fiasco sooner rather than later.

    And while all of this is happening, these tin eared morons are pushing for legislation requiring the forced archiving by every ISP of every Australians Internet activity in order to achieve what?

    These cnuts deserve all the brickbats they get and more. And yes, I am fucking angry.

  64. Fisky

    And while all of this is happening, these tin eared morons are pushing for legislation requiring the forced archiving by every ISP of every Australians Internet activity in order to achieve what?

    They really believe that archiving everyone’s internet activity will somehow stop the pipebombs I’ve already mailed them from exploding.

  65. MartinG

    Marion of the Glades
    #1405285, posted on August 5, 2014 at 5:15 pm

    Sadly MartinG we have a conservative government, but no relevant competencies. I fear the worst.

    I’m in good company here, that’s why I get so fed up with those who indulge in immature drivel. Abbott, Hockey and most (but not all) of the liberal party are weak gutless arsholes. Scott Morrison, Julie Bishop, Cory Bernardi and some others need to make a move on Abbott and Hockey, just before the next election.

    Timing is everything, it must early enough to call a double dissolution but not too early to wipe the stench of the current administration out of the noses of the conservative heartland. They should start planing it now. That’s why Scott Morrison must lead it. Abbott will be shit scared of him and know he can do sod all about it.

  66. Fisky

    Morrison MUST challenge at once. I don’t care if he’s a bit wet on economics. Abbott has got to be overthrown NOW.

  67. MemoryVault

    Combine Dave
    #1405249, posted on August 5, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    So much for ending the age of entitlement ^^

    Only about one third of people on DSP are genuine, physical cripples. Paradoxically, this is the very group that has been targeted, both by the previous government and this one. The bulk of people on DSP are there because of “depression”, and/or addiction to alcohol and both licit and illicit drugs.

    These people should never have been put on DSP anyway, not even according to the existing rules, which require that a condition be classed as both untreatable and “permanent” (likely to last more than two years). But no government is going to transfer these people back onto the dole, since it would make their unemployment figures look bad (which is why they were put on DSP in the first place). So we throw the genuine cripples under a bus instead.

    I’m not even going to mention all those poor souls emotionally crippled by their arduous sea journey here, and even more arduous stint in a refugee processing centre, now using their DSP to finance their head-hunting holidays to the ME.

    ——————————————-

    You want me to get all concerned about age pensions and an aging population? Fine. You can start by scrapping the 15% tax on contributions, so that people’s own contributions can grow faster, making them less likely to be reliant on government payouts when they retire.

    A 20 year old today earning the minimum wage now, and for the rest of their life, will end being docked over $55,000.00 in lost principal and interest by the time they reach retirement age. That’s at an average return of just 3%. At today’s rate of age pension, that’s over three years that they wouldn’t be reliant on the government.

    Too simple? Okay, then how about we simply raise the retiring age three years? Accomplishes the same thing. Except, of course, it reduces the number of vacant jobs for the following generation, but that’s alright – we’ll just stop paying them the dole. Easy peasy. Can’t possibly see any “unintended consequences” – like skyrocketing crime rates – arising out of that brilliant decision.

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    The Age of Entitlement you say?
    You mean like Tony Abbott’s $5.5 billion PPL, and every other taxpayer-funded state and federal PPL currently being paid to the chosen few. You mean like the 200+ women who had a taxpayer funded abortion TODAY, their second, third, fourth or more taxpayer funded abortion because they’re too bone idle to take a taxpayer funded pill each day.

    Or you mean like Supporting Parent’s Benefit, where women who have never worked a day in their lives, and have no intention of ever doing so, are paid an extra $50.00 a week PLUS a cash bonus for pumping out yet another fatherless sprog destined to become a crim, or a drug addict, or both.

    Or maybe you refer to the $3 billion a year, taxpayer-funded, sheltered workshop otherwise known as the “Employment Service Provider” industry, which serves little other purpose apart from making Therese Rein and Sarina Russo millionaires.

  68. Marion of the Glades

    I see the PM has now dogged it on 18C, which was his thing.
    Let’s get the talent up front now. Personally, I think Bishop is the go. Morrison won’t get the punters. But can we please eradicate Pyne and those other useless flutterers.

  69. MartinG

    goatjam
    #1405330, posted on August 5, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    “Couldn’t be seen to be breaking any of LABOR’s election promises, could we?”

    The trouble is that they were also LNP election promises. They essentially copied from the Kevin ’07 playbook and simply matched every promise made by The Union Party no matter how ludicrously unfunded it was. It was patently clear at the time that this was possibly the most retarded election strategy ever devised but these cretins pushed on regardless.

    As you say, Abbott just adopted the absurdities of the most incompitant goverment in history

  70. Hendrix

    I remember reading an article on Hockey that said Howard never rated him. Considered him lazy. One of the examples used was how most ministers would be going through their briefs and paperwork on taxpayer-funded flights, but hockey never touched his. He’s an idiot. The man had 15 minutes of popularity on that stupid sunrise show 10 years ago, that helped saddle our nation with that fuckwit rudd, and he thinks that qualifies him to be prime minister of Australia. I hope Bishop or Morrison have other plans.

  71. MartinG

    goatjam
    #1405330, posted on August 5, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    “Couldn’t be seen to be breaking any of LABOR’s election promises, could we?”

    The trouble is that they were also LNP election promises. They essentially copied from the Kevin ’07 playbook and simply matched every promise made by The Union Party no matter how ludicrously unfunded it was. It was patently clear at the time that this was possibly the most retarded election strategy ever devised but these cretins pushed on regardless.

    As you say, Abbott just adopted the absurdities of the most incompitant government in history. He was incapable of articulating those absurdities and didn’t formulate an alternative policy.

    Now they are in government with no clear mandate to do anything (apart from “stop the boats”) and they have nowhere to go. They have a hostile senate to deal with and they are doing everything they can to try and placate a group of people who have no interest in being placated. Instead of comprehending reality which is that ALP/GRN/PUP have no interest in behaving like rational adults they are persisting down this naive conciliatory path that only serves to make them callow and weak.

    They have failed to capitalize for what in some part is a get out of jail free card. As an example, the senate rejects Abbotts PPL scheme. Much sobbing and wailing should follow before it is cremated and never mentioned again unless it’s used to show that broken promises are the direct result of a hostile senate.

    NDIS…Sorry no can do. The senate have blocked the saving measures we needed to fund it. Some things may be legislated by the previous government but funding for them could probably be cut…damn that senate ;)

    And while all of this is happening, these tin eared morons are pushing for legislation requiring the forced archiving by every ISP of every Australians Internet activity in order to achieve what?

    These cnuts deserve all the brickbats they get and more. And yes, I am fucking angry.

    That reminds me, I must send another E-mail to my mate Cory Bernardi along with my massive donation of 20 dollars. I shall be praising him for threatening to cross the floor if jelly back presents his PPL scheme in the senate.

  72. MartinG

    Bolt’s Laws Will Not Happen – audio player

    BS here

  73. I am the Walrus, Koo Koo K'choo

    I remember reading an article on Hockey that said Howard never rated him. Considered him lazy. One of the examples used was how most ministers would be going through their briefs and paperwork on taxpayer-funded flights, but hockey never touched his. He’s an idiot.

    Yep, lazy and stupid.

  74. Tel

    The trouble is that they were also LNP election promises. They essentially copied from the Kevin ’07 playbook and simply matched every promise made by The Union Party no matter how ludicrously unfunded it was. It was patently clear at the time that this was possibly the most retarded election strategy ever devised but these cretins pushed on regardless.

    Ahhh yes, you forget the most important ALP policy of all time: “Once we get in we’ll just change it all”.

    Need I remind you? The LNP decided to borrow that one as well.

  75. sabrina

    Hockey is half-fake, and now with the Australian off-side, he has no hope.

  76. Perpetual Motion

    It takes a special skill to increase both taxes and spending and upset everyone in the country.

    The only rational conclusion is that Hockey is a first-class moron.

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