There will be no free speech under a government I lead – it’s “a complication”

From the ABC:

Mr Abbott said he was dumping Senator Brandis’s draft laws, which would have removed key sections of the Racial Discrimination Act which the Attorney-General said made it illegal to “hurt the feelings of others”.

The PM said he had made a “leadership call” to abandon the changes, because they had become a “complication” in the Government’s relationship with the Australian Muslim community.

“When it comes to counter-terrorism, everyone needs to be part of Team Australia,” Mr Abbott said.

“The government’s proposals to change 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act have become a complication in that respect.

It seems the right to privacy is also “a complication” as is being innocent until proven guilty. If only freedom didn’t raise so many complications for the state to regulate and control our lives.

No doubt soon it will be “a complication” to criticise the government.

Update:

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116 Responses to There will be no free speech under a government I lead – it’s “a complication”

  1. Ivan Denisovich

    From the Open Fred:

    I’ve been hit by a full-on seventies flashback. The horror that was the Whitlam Govt replaced by the Fraser Govt. The horror that was the Rudd/Gillard Govt replaced by the Fraser Govt, Mark II. Countdown hosted by Molly Meldrum will be on the ABC this Sunday at 5pm.

  2. Infidel Tiger

    The PM said he had made a “leadership call”

    Here’s another call: You are a disgusting oxygen thieving disgrace. Rot in hell, you commie cnut.

  3. Gab

    Abbott’s Liberal Party. The other ALP.

  4. Infidel Tiger

    Any one who votes for the Liberal Party is a traitorous piece of shit.

  5. JMH

    It’s not a complication, it’s a wankfest. Not now, not ever must we upset the islamists, who are slowly and methodically taking over this country.

    This government is as treacherous as the last. There’s no difference – and I note, many commentators have been saying that for some time. I bit my tongue at the time, wishing to give this lot a fair chance. Time is now up.

    Epic fail, Abbott. You are as big a turncoat as the other Turncoat.

    Over and out. The LNP has lost my support.

  6. Fisky

    If there are any Muzzos returning from Syria reading this: do us a favour and plant a couple of IEDs outside Liberal HQ, would you?

  7. Oh come on

    Tim Wilson should resign. The rug has been pulled out from underneath him by the people who appointed him. There is no point giving this statist government a veneer of liberality through a perceived association with liberty lovers like Wilson. They deserve to commune with a constellation of QUANGOs stuffed full of arch leftist jobsworths who will never miss an opportunity to stick the knife into them on their way down.

    Election now. If we must have Labor policies, Labor values and Labor spinelessness in our government, let’s have Labor in government.

  8. JMH

    Fisky, that is a distinct probability.

  9. Bern1

    After living through Whitlam, Rudd and Gillard I am incapable of voting Labor or Green.So who?
    I always suspected that Abbot would be a mini-me Fraser,but does he have to be such a super suck.
    Remember Howard and Costello?Never see the likes again.
    How can anyone stuff a country like Australia? Really,not possible.

  10. stackja

    ALP is the problem. Why are they getting a free run?

  11. Yeah. It’s complicated.

    Like your Facebook page relationship status: ‘It’s Complicated’.

    Which of course translates to, ‘I Am A Cheating and Lying Shit of the First Water’.

  12. Infidel Tiger

    Tim Wilson should resign.

    Most definitely.

    He has been made to look a fool.

  13. JMH

    OCO @ 6.12 pm

    + 1 and on the mark.

  14. Vicki

    If anyone needed to be convinced that Abbott was a great Opposition leader, but not PM material, it is this.

    The concern about the erosion of free speech has been a considerable issue for Coalition supporters for some time. Abbott knows that, and he knows why. Yet, he acknowledges that he made “a captain’s call” & personally sank the hopes of so many loyal supporters.

    But worse. He did it for the most fatuous of reasons – the fear that the Muslim community may be adversely affected by the legislation as the government additionally moves to extend anti terrorism legislation. Yet, this is the VERY TIME when the public needs to discuss and debate the serious security crisis that is posed by the rapid rise of the Islamic State.

    I fear that Abbott is assuming a Neville Chamberlain-like worldview. It is the stuff of absolute despair. Is he not aware, or informed, or the events in Iraq & Syria, and now Lebanon and Libya (again)? Or has the Palestinian lobby convinced him that the only slaughter that is happening is in Gaza?

    It is a shame, because he achieved notable foreign policy successes in Japan & China, and Bishop attracted favourable comment for her expertise and commitment.

    But this issue is inextricably tied to our future ability to confidently canvass serious matters affecting Australia’s future – in particular multiculturalism & border security. If we cannot do this confidently, I want him deposed from the leadership.

  15. Sinclair Davidson

    Tim Wilson should resign.

    Well, no. I’m going to enjoy watching him leading the fight against the anti-terror laws and the back-flip on 18c.

    I suspect he is going to have a lot of fun – after all next year is the 800th anniversary of the Magna Carta that the Abbott government is trampling.

  16. Infidel Tiger

    If there are any Muzzos returning from Syria reading this: do us a favour and plant a couple of IEDs outside Liberal HQ, would you?

    Abbott’s response would be to launch a listening tour and build a couple of gold plated Mosques.

  17. goatjam

    I cannot express my hatred for Abbott and his government.

    I am what they would probably consider a natural Liberal voter, that is a white, middle class taxpayer who loathes PC, unions and leftist morons in general.

    Yet I will never make the mistake of voting Liberal again.

    Never.

    I will vote LDP where possible, or independent (but only after I receive personal correspondence assuring me that I am not voting for the next Rob Oakshitt*) and failing both those options I will vote informal.

    These LNP pricks won’t fool me again, I assure you.

    * This won’t guarantee such an outcome of course but one can only do so much.

  18. Oh come on

    Brandis will go down as a villain alongside Fraser. He has betrayed us. Abbott is beyond redemption and needs to go as soon as possible.

  19. Bruce of Newcastle

    He only had to remove one word, “offend”, and it’d have been something I could accept.

    As it stands now, S18C means if anyone says anything however innocent, which some feral somewhere decides is offensive to him, her or it, you’re gone.

    On the other hand we wouldn’t have this controversy if Mordy wasn’t an idiot. His judgement was incorrect in law, but stands because Newscorp was too spineless to appeal.

  20. Gab

    The PM said he had made a “leadership call” to abandon the changes, because they had become a “complication” in the Government’s relationship with the Australian Muslim community.

    Who gives a toss what 2% of the population wants? What about pandering to the 98% of the population of which 53% voted for Abbott that gave him the mandate to repeal 18C. The muslims are never going to vote for you in the majority, Tony. What a chickensh1t coward you are.

  21. Infidel Tiger

    Election now. If we must have Labor policies, Labor values and Labor spinelessness in our government, let’s have Labor in government.

    Exactly. At least when the ALP are in power you can get rich from a bit of graft and corruption.

  22. Anto

    I have defended Abbott continuously and believed that his critics were simply ideologues…until now.

    He no longer has my support. And now, he wants to initiate a nation-wide NSA-style electronic surveillance program:
    http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/big-brother-is-watching-why-the-government-wants-to-keep-your-metadata/story-fnjwnfzw-1227014368716

  23. Fisky

    It probably doesn’t matter in the long run: demonstrations calling for the massacre of Jews will be routine in Australia as they already are in Europe, showing up the total irrelevance of 18C.

  24. Oh come on

    Sinc, fine. If he uses his position to give the government both barrels at every opportunity, then he would be an asset.

    However, he should come out against them right now and announce that he will be going after them relentlessly and dare them to sack him.

    Else he’s their patsy.

  25. eb

    FUCK! I’ve got nobody to vote for now.

    Spineless ****s!

  26. And Another Thing

    I know it’s easy for me to say, but this bad law must be challenged by bloggers. And the next time someone like Andrew Bolt is hauled before the courts there must be a massive turnout of support. I remember about 30 years ago when the lefties were breaking their necks to get the screaming of obscenities on stage, in films and on television allowed. The same with abortion laws, and they got their way in the end.
    In short, we have to be as energetic as the left was then to get things put to rights.
    What worries me is that Abbott has. Linked this to relations with the Muslim community. If this is the case now, what will happen with greater Muslim immigration, as parts of Paris and London are already uninhabitable.
    For those saying the Liberals have lost your support, who will you vote for now? Palmer? The Greens? The motorists?

  27. Fisky

    Well, no. I’m going to enjoy watching him leading the fight against the anti-terror laws and the back-flip on 18c.

    His colleagues will be sniggering at him along the corridors. Any authority he had or simply the capacity for stirring the pot in the HRC is now dead. He should just leave now. Don’t even bother showing up for work this week.

  28. Gab

    For those saying the Liberals have lost your support, who will you vote for now?

    LDP and Family First where possible otherwise informal.

  29. Jim from qld

    LDP and FF are the true right wing.

    Vote with your feet. Abandon the liberal party to its statist crony capitalist ways.

  30. Fisky

    However, he should come out against them right now and announce that he will be going after them relentlessly and dare them to sack him.

    He should do that – pick a loud fight with the government and his colleagues and then dare the government to side with Triggs. I bet they will, but that’s the point, to expose them as frauds.

  31. Fisky

    Yep, it’s LDP and FF from now on. LNP will be third last, just above the ALP and the Greens, but below the Communist Party.

  32. thefrollickingmole

    Its over, they are high taxing nanny state, surveillance addicted, big government fools.

  33. Infidel Tiger

    For those saying the Liberals have lost your support, who will you vote for now?

    I’m voting ISIS in the H of R and Al Qaeda in The Senate.

  34. goatjam

    “In short, we have to be as energetic as the left was then to get things put to rights”

    The trouble is that, generally speaking, people with conservative values are, for want of a better word, conservative.

    The left are feral ideologues. They will make noise until they get what they want and when they get that they will make more noise for something else. They are creatures of the collective and the larger the collective the more noise they can make.

    Conservatives are naturally independent and abhor collectivism. They are also naturally courteous and fair minded. They have a more “live and let live” attitude that, while admirable, makes them politically weak.

    There are exceptions on both sides of course but as general rule this is how things work. This is why the long march through the institutions has been such a stellar success.

  35. Infidel Tiger

    What’s the best method for posting faeces?

    Should I trust Australia Post or use a courier?

  36. I am the Walrus, Koo Koo K'choo

    David Leyjonhelm at LDP, Bob Day at Family First,

    There are now many cheesed off ex-LNP voters looking for a home.

    The field is open to you. Start making hay.

  37. Oh come on

    I’m going to enjoy watching him leading the fight against… the back-flip on 18c.

    No, it’s now a lost cause. Repealing 18C was already electorally unpopular. The proposal needed the government to champion it, sell it effectively, make a stand on principle. By surrendering to the soft fascists, they’ve consigned it to political oblivion, a matter of no consequence and the concern of a boutique, quixotic demographic that the majority will either deride as out-of-touch or ignore.

    The LNP have utterly ratfucked us.

  38. thefrollickingmole

    Infidel Tiger

    If you use Toll the bikie/driver will even light the bag before he drops it on the doorstep.

  39. john constantine

    on the internet, nobody knows you’re a dog. used to be a joke a while back.

    the whole big government conrovian national broadband network piped to your house, with the speed and capacity to record your every mouseclick,skype and facetwit, will let the world see your species, breed and pedigree.

    nothing to fear, as long as you think the right way.

    –does the word swampy hurt their feelings?. just need blair to be 18c’d over frightbat and it would be time to shave the head, buy bovver boots and join ukip.

  40. H B Bear

    Bindi is right. They have won. We are all self-identifying aboriginals now. Lawyer up.

  41. Art Vandelay

    The PM said he had made a “leadership call” to abandon the changes, because they had become a “complication” in the Government’s relationship with the Australian Muslim community.

    So Abbott dropped an election commitment to appease a minority who would never vote for him anyway? Not only are the Liberals cowardly, they are also stupid.

  42. Shy Ted

    All he needs to do is take the public funding out of the equation. You’ll be able to say what you like and almost no-one will put their hand in their (as opposed to your) pocket to pursue this. You don’t think the Aboriginal mafia used their own money do you? And reading today’ posts, free speech is clearly alive and well.

  43. Oh come on

    The Liberals have always had an uncomfortable relationship with liberalism. It’s time the Liberal Party went the way of the UAP. If Abbott loses office after a term in government, there is no earthly reason why the LP should continue to exist. Burn the fucker to tthe ground and start over. With Scott Morrison in charge. First order of business – frogmarching Abbott, Brandis and any other quisling wet onto an orange boat of liberty with the rudder welded dead ahead. Then padlock the throttle on max and point the boat in the direction of Antarctica.

  44. I am the Walrus, Koo Koo K'choo

    18c – not to be repealed so as not to upset 2% of the community.

    Data retention (privacy-invding) laws – being applied to everyone despite the fact that everyone knows who the terrorists are (hint, it’s not the Methodists), but necessary so as not to upset 2% of the community.

    The Liberals are selling out the ancient freedoms of 23 million Australians so as to avoid even just the possibility of offending 2% of the population.

    Memo to Liberal Party: you people are appalling.

  45. goatjam

    “So Abbott dropped an election commitment to appease a minority who would never vote for him anyway? Not only are the Liberals cowardly, they are also stupid.”

    It would be interesting to know where all this stupidity is emanating from.

    It is tempting to blame Peta Credlin of course, and she may in fact be a gigantic font of idiocy, but it seems to me that the entire front bench of the Liberal Party is manned by complete and utter duplicitous half-wits.

  46. Oh come on

    There is a critically endangered species in our midst. Shy Ted – last of the LNP true believers.

  47. goatjam

    “reading today’ posts, free speech is clearly alive and well”

    Are you really that stupid? We might be able to express ourselves today on a relatively obscure blog but when mandatory data archiving is the norm and the powers that be decide that there is a bit to much sedition emanating from this blog what then? Should we try and shut the door after the horse has bolted?

  48. wreckage

    This is a Godsend for the LDP and Family First.

  49. Infidel Tiger

    Burn the fucker to tthe ground and start over. With Scott Morrison in charge.

    He’s a wealth tax supporting cnut.

    Behead them all.

  50. evcricket

    Why is this filed under Hypocrisy of Progressives? Is the claim Abbott is a progressive? Ahahahahahahahahaha.

  51. And Another Thing

    I suggest that MPs be bombarded with objections to the dumping of this change to the law. That’s how the left gets things done. Governments cant do everything for people, sometimes there has to be pressure put on. I hate to praise the left for anything, but they are superbly organized. They can get their way over the wishes of the silent majority. Muslim immigration is another problem. Back in the days when these things were done properly, the immigration authorities would have looked at the way these people conducted themselves in their home countries and rejected them. The imams who preach hatred towards others would have been deported. Maybe it’s time to take a leaf from the lefts playbook and hold a couple of rallies. Tying up peak-hour traffic in Sydney and Melbourne seems to be a preferred option.

  52. Mater

    Sinc, fine. If he uses his position to give the government both barrels at every opportunity, then he would be an asset.

    OCO,
    Listened to Tim Wilson on 3AW this afternoon (with Tom Elliott). He was very vocal in his view that this was a great disappointment and contrary to our right of freedom of speech which is the basis for a liberal democracies. He did well. Podcast should be available.

  53. goatjam

    “Is the claim Abbott is a progressive”

    Yes

  54. goatjam

    “David Leyjonhelm at LDP, Bob Day at Family First,

    There are now many cheesed off ex-LNP voters looking for a home.”

    David needs to stop looking for gay staffers and start addressing the issues that his potential supporters are actually concerned by.

  55. JC

    evcricket
    #1405460, posted on August 5, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    Why is this filed under Hypocrisy of Progressives? Is the claim Abbott is a progressive? Ahahahahahahahahaha.

    No, he’s basically a leftwing turd like you Cricket. The only thing that makes you a prize dickhead is that you think you’re going to find seawater swirling around your bed one day over the next few weeks of so.

  56. JC

    What’s the best method for posting faeces?

    Should I trust Australia Post or use a courier?

    A currency broker that I used to know, despised a woman he worked with. He filled a tin chocolate box and sent it to her by courier. He denied it of course, but the market knew it was him.

    Currency brokers are equal to slugs in the earth’s life ladder.

  57. Oh come on

    Yes, you’re right. Shouldn’t harvest anything from the rotten cadaver that is the LNP – it’d probably infect the unfortunate recipient. Throw away the scalpel and pick up a machete. The stinking corpse is too big to fit through a woodchipper in one piece.

  58. Oh come on

    Why is this filed under Hypocrisy of Progressives? Is the claim Abbott is a progressive? Ahahahahahahahahaha.

    Yes, that’s precisely what he is, you ridiculous hyena. He’s a kindred spirit of yours.

  59. Dianeh

    LDP – you have my vote. Actually you already had it after that fucking dismal excuse for a budget that Hockey/Abbott put forward.

    As for Tim. I doubt he will be effective now. He should just resign imediately.

  60. Dianeh

    So disappointed that the swearing filter has broken,

  61. Dianeh

    I meant

    I am so disappointed in those losers that my internal swearing filter has broken.

    As well I am so upset I can’t work this bloody iPad.

  62. goatjam

    Yes, that’s precisely what he is, you ridiculous hyena. He’s a kindred spirit of yours.

    The whole “Tony Abbott is leading a hard right government” meme is a classic example of how leftards are completely and utterly divorced from reality. By every objective metric Abboot and his government are soft left at best (and that is being generous) but the left are so utterly caught up in their own partisanship that they automatically equate anybody who is not specifically in the Labor/Green alliance automatically becomes “hard right”. Oh, and being a Catholic doesn’t help either.

  63. C.L.

    Catallaxy no longer supports this government.

    We’ll play our small part in destroying it from now on.

  64. Fisky

    I’m holding out for a Morrisonian coup d’etat.

  65. Well, no. I’m going to enjoy watching him leading the fight against the anti-terror laws and the back-flip on 18c.

    The way I see it, Tim Wilson needs to decide whether he stands for Liberty, or the Liberal party. His appointment was specifically with regards to free speech. I would like to see him rally against the things you mention (and others) as my first preference… failing that, he should resign, citing the Abbott’s position on 18C as a vote of no-confidence on the issue of free speech.

  66. Infidel Tiger

    If #auspol is any guide, The left have reacted with strong approval. Expect a huge bounce for Abbott:

    https://twitter.com/bustersdah/status/496541137243348992/photo/1

  67. Peewhit

    Fisky, use your brain. Did the left say that having one representative was useless and say he/she might as well quit. No they did not, they said thats one. Now for some more, and in the end we will have a majority. Think strategic, not tactical. To the rest of you, how many are members of a political party. If you are not willing to get down and dirty and join a party then you are only talkers. If you join a party then there are jobs for all. The political parties always need workers to push their ideas, and with any luck, in the words of Bert Kelly, “you will leave the meeting as secretary of the branch”. More light less heat. No use sounding off in an echo chamber where all you will hear is agreement.

  68. Fisky

    Wilson has no authority now. Everyone is laughing at him openly. He should resign and retire to the beach for a while to ride out the storm.

  69. Fisky

    He should resign and retire to the beach for a while to ride out the storm.

    And he should avoid mangled metaphors and clunky cliches like the plague! (doh!)

  70. oldsalt

    Goatjam you’re right about the Catholic thing. If he’s a true conservative Catholic, he’ll be hard to put in a left-right box, he’ll go where the Spirit leads on occasions. Garrett was a born-again, the sort that don’t think people like myself are Christians because we haven’t accepted Jesus into our hearts in the way they think we should. Garrett probably doesn’t even think he’s a leftie, he follows the Spirit.

  71. goatjam

    “If he’s a true conservative Catholic, he’ll be hard to put in a left-right box, he’ll go where the Spirit leads on occasions.”

    While I don’t necessarily disagree, he needs to understand that he wasn’t elected as the leader of the Catholic Party.

    Also, it seems to me that his sensitivity regarding his Catholicism seems to be causing him to “turn the other cheek” with respect to the strident demands of the hordes of leftists who will never vote for him no matter what he does.

  72. Oh come on

    Bugger off, Pee. Your benchmark of an effective political player isn’t of any great interest to anybody.

  73. Oh come on

    If #auspol is any guide, The left have reacted with strong approval. Expect a huge bounce for Abbott

    LOL. Abbott really is a fool. Talk about making every post a loser. Alienate your allies, allow your enemies to (justifiably) cast you as a weathervane.

  74. Infidel Tiger

    Wilson has no authority now. Everyone is laughing at him openly. He should resign and retire to the beach for a while to ride out the storm.

    Not with those $300,000 per annum man boobs.

  75. whyisitso

    Catallaxy no longer supports this government.
    We’ll play our small part in destroying it from now on.

    Interesting that C.L. speaks for Catallaxy!

    Most of the commenters on this blog are idiots. This repeal was never going to get through the Senate, so why should the Coalition keep bashing their heads against a brick wall? Principle? Purity of principle never got a political party anywhere, as the Labor party found out in the fifties and sixties.

    Australians generally inhabit the left side of the ideology spectrum, so was only a matter of time before the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd disaster was forgotten. No, we need several more terms of the Green/Left to send this country to total rack and ruin. That may begin to change the culture, although when you look at how far down the leftist drain Europe has gone, I have my doubts.

    Abbott will very soon be deposed as leader and a leftist will take over (Morrison and Bishop have no chance). The next leader will undoubtedly be a staunch ally (or puppet) of Turnbull, if not Turnbull himself.

    My next federal vote will be informal.

  76. twostix

    As I posted last month:

    On the 4th of April last year, Tony Abbott personally said the words: “we will repeal section 18 C of the racial discrimination act” at the IPA’s 70th birthday dinner in front an audience of pretty much the entire right of centre political and media class.

    “we will repeal section 18 C of the racial discrimination act”

    Not, “we will institute a ‘consultation process’ with Muslims to ask if we’re allowed to”. But “we will repeal”.

    The full list of “promises” Abbott personally made that night to great applause is as follows:

    “I want to assure you that the coalition will indeed“:

    “repeal the carbon tax”
    “abolish the department of climate change”
    “abolish the clean energy fund”
    “we will repeal section 18 C of the racial discrimination act”
    “we will deliver one billion dollars in red tape savings every year”
    “we will develop northern Australia”
    “we will repeal the mining tax”.
    “we will privatise medibank”
    “we will trim the public service”
    “we will create a one stop shop for environmental regulation”.

    It seems as if we’re finding out that like the UK Tories hold their their base in utter contempt, so to do their mates in the Australian Liberal Party.

  77. Oh come on

    This repeal was never going to get through the Senate, so why should the Coalition keep bashing their heads against a brick wall? Principle?

    Bingo. For someone who calls others idiots, that was a colossally dim-witted comment, whyisitso.

    They also should have made a much stronger case for its repeal. But then that was an unrealistic expectation from that bunch of pinkos. They obviously don’t consider freedom of speech a principle worth going to the wall over.

  78. C.L.

    Ah.

    Leftist whyisitso arrives saying it’s all good.

    Thanks for coming!

  79. twostix

    Most of the commenters on this blog are idiots. This repeal was never going to get through the Senate, so why should the Coalition keep bashing their heads against a brick wall?

    “Keep trying?”

    As if they even tried, they actively sabotaged it from the get-go.

  80. C.L.

    “we will develop northern Australia”

    Did everyone see Barnaby’s Sunday news dump?

    He was dispatched to say that the northern food bowl stuff is all bullshit and they’re dropping it.

  81. Infidel Tiger

    “repeal the carbon tax” – PASS
    “abolish the department of climate change” – FAIL
    “abolish the clean energy fund” -FAIL
    “we will repeal section 18 C of the racial discrimination act” – MASSIVE FAIL
    “we will deliver one billion dollars in red tape savings every year”- COMPLETE FAIL
    “we will develop northern Australia” – STOP LYING CNUT
    “we will repeal the mining tax”.-FAIL
    “we will privatise medibank”- FAIL
    “we will trim the public service” – I TOLD YOU TO STOP LYING, YOU TAQQIYA SPEWING CNUT.
    “we will create a one stop shop for environmental regulation”. – LIAR

  82. C.L.

    Once again, the Liberal Party has allowed the hard left to win and to ratchet in its ‘reforms’ (which are, of course, designed to criminalise liberty) because they don’t want to fight, because they can’t stand the latte drinkers and opera buffs (whose approval they crave) to look askance at them.

    Abbott is a far worse prime minister than Gillard.

    Gillard fell into the job.

    Abbott fought for this shit.

  83. goatjam

    “Most of the commenters on this blog are idiots.”

    Nice start idiot.

    “This repeal was never going to get through the Senate”

    So? The same could be said about a dozen other things that they promised before the election. The fact that the senate refuses to let them pass any legislation means that the LNP then had a choice:

    1) State their case and rally their supporters and go to a DD if necessary

    2) Alienate their support base and try to appease their enemies who will not support them no matter what.

    They chose option 2. And you call us idiots.

  84. oldsalt

    It’s just votes. It was never popular in the community. The community is schools, sports clubs and churches not lobby groups and blogs. I’ve been coaching junior sport for a bit, you don’t find any coaches who want it changed. It’s hard enough with the odd kid who has a dickhead dad and thinks he can bring that sort of language to training because of his dad’s bad example . Bolt is a conflict entrepreneur, it’s how he makes his bikkies.

  85. twostix

    I’ve been coaching junior sport for a bit, you don’t find any coaches who want it changed. It’s hard enough with the odd kid who has a dickhead dad and thinks he can bring that sort of language to training because of his dad’s bad example .

    Seriously.

    What is this bizarreness?

  86. C.L.

    Good Lord. Salt is back to demanding children be arrested for saying CHING CHONG CHINAMAN at footy training again.

  87. goatjam

    “The community is schools, sports clubs and churches not lobby groups and blogs.”

    Yet it appears to me that lobby groups and blogs (and especially twitter) are exactly what politicians today pander to.

    All it takes is for twitter to get its collective panties in a twist and the likes of Abbott buckle at the knees. Sporting clubs and churches have nowhere near that kind of clout. They are completely off the radar.

  88. I am the Walrus, Koo Koo K'choo

    It’s just votes. It was never popular in the community. The community is schools, sports clubs and churches

    No, it’s none of them. According to the Prime Minister, the community is mosques.

  89. Oh come on

    Twostix, bang on. Seriously strange.

    On second thought, perhaps the venture was doomed from the point the massively influential under 10s sports coach demographic was overlooked.

  90. twostix

    “The community is schools, sports clubs and churches not lobby groups and blogs.”

    The “community” is private people and their families.

    Sports clubs? What frightening collectivist nonsense is this?

  91. Mr Rusty

    The only way 18c can be repealed is if the left support it and the only way that will happen is if they are beaten mercilessly with it. Start with Goodes and his “all whiteys are evil genocidal thiefs” speech, thump BDS (and link it to Plebbysick), drag every Imam who preaches hate, Mike Carlton and the SMH, Sydney city council for allowing Hamas dominated protests, Lee Rhiannon, anyone ridiculing Christianity and GetUp for their anti-semitism.

    I know people will say the Judiciary is stacked and there is no chance of winning but should that happen then it will just drive more people into the anti-18c camp and highlight the true nature of 18c (i.e. a stick for the left to beat anyone they disagree with).

    The only option is to literally ridicule it out of existence.

  92. Infidel Tiger

    Oldsalt has obviously been drinking fermented bilge water.

    He sounds like he’s channeling Numbers.

  93. Boambee John

    Time to start using 18C against the panjandrums of the left – hardly a day goes by without one or more of them making a racially offensive statement, particularly with the Gaza business now under way.

    Start with the Silly Moaning Herald – the apology about the cartoon was only about the cartoon – a few Jewish people should take to Mike Carlton for his offensiveness.

    Until the left is burned by lawfare, lawfare by the left will continue.

  94. Not sure if this will work with three links, but here goes…

    Message to IPA members from John Roskam

    Today Prime Minister Tony Abbott announced the Coalition was abandoning its promise to repeal section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, the law that sent Andrew Bolt to court.

    Back in February last year I wrote to IPA members about something Chris, who’s an IPA member from Sydney, once said to me. Since then I’ve often spoken to Chris about the power of what he told me and I’ve reflected on it.

    Chris told me how his two grandfathers fought on the Western Front in the First World War for freedom. He told me how his father fought in Burma in the Second World War for freedom.

    And when his mother was a fire lookout in South London during the Blitz she stayed awake through the night to keep her family safe and free.

    We owe our thanks to the sacrifices that previous generations have made so we can live and bring up our families in a free country.

    Today at 4.30pm after the prime minister’s press conference Chris rang the IPA to say he would never ever give up fighting for freedom of speech and he knew the IPA would never ever give up fighting for freedom of speech either.

    As you know Tony Abbott’s promise to repeal 18C was announced to the IPA in Sydney in August 2012. You can watch his speech here. And this is the IPA’s press statement we issued after the PM’s announcement.

    In the last few hours I’ve been inundated with messages of support from IPA members. Every single one of you wants us to keep up the fight for freedom in Australia and the fight for freedom of speech.

    In fact you want us to redouble our efforts to fight for what is one of the most basic human freedoms.

    A few of you even reminded me of the email I sent out last month when the carbon tax was repealed. In that email I pointed out that back in 2009 Tony Abbott supported carbon taxes. The IPA fought that fight – and we won.

    And we’ll fight this fight too – and we’ll win this one too.

    I believe that now more than ever Australia needs the IPA. In the coming days and weeks and months I’ll be telling you more about how we will fight to restore freedom of speech in Australia.

    But tonight I just wanted to tell you one important thing – the IPA will never ever stop fighting for our fundamental human freedoms.

    Thank you for your support for freedom.

    [signature]

    John Roskam
    Executive Director – Institute of Public Affairs

  95. Shauno

    Its getting hard to work out who to vote for. And easy to work out not to vote at all and just go about your own business on the farm see you later.

  96. Infidel Tiger

    Good work John Roskam.

    I will renew my membership tomorrow with an added donation, but if Abbott or Brandis ever attend one of your functions you better hope the sniffer dogs are on their game.

  97. Mater

    Oldsalt has obviously been drinking fermented bilge water.

    A fineline between an oldsalt and an oldsoak

  98. oldsalt

    CL I guess what Joyce is saying is Gov isn’t going to spend money on it. Same old same old, metro areas where the population and votes are come first. And he’s protecting his constituency who want any spare cash spent on infrastructure for themselves.

    The North will be developed, incrementally, as it must be for defence and security. The ‘Asian foodbowl’ was always a silly slogan. As new economic complementarities are identified, Gov will come under pressure to build infrastructure. Our neighbours will continue to destroy their arable land with urbanisation, they’ll need our food. WA wheat export already supports one of Indonesia’s strategic industries.

  99. C.L.

    Chris was right to draw on history.

    Abbott did this THE DAY AFTER the 100th anniversary of World War I.

    Why not just emulate Ozzy Osbourne at the Alamo and take a leak on the War Memorial?

  100. gabrianga

    The price to go to Arnhem Land? Outsmarted again by the Aborigines and their advi8sors with a little bit of help from the Brandis outburst.

    A sec9nd coming 0f the Gough + Fraser ?

  101. incoherent rambler

    So Peta has told him that Age and SMH readers will now vote for him?

    Ha!

  102. Infidel Tiger

    A sec9nd coming 0f the Gough + Fraser ?

    Struth! Maybe Piggy Howes is going to be Bob Hawke?

  103. incoherent rambler

    To Catholic hell he goes.

    “Thou shall not bear false witness”

  104. JohnA

    Gab #1405454, posted on August 5, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    Tell Tone how you feel:

    https://www.pm.gov.au/contact-your-pm

    You bet. Here’s what I said:

    “Dear Prime Minister,
    I am very disappointed and displeased that you have resolved to take reform/repeal of the RDA off the agenda.

    Not all causes of friction require a legal solution, and the RDA tries to impose a legal solution onto what is an ideological “contest” or conflict of views.

    Unfortunately the RDA by encoding “vilification” has opened the door to the protection of a victim mentality, and the high cost of legal defence makes guarding one’s name and reputation almost impossible. Consequently, it is easy to attack someone as a racial vilifier, but difficult in Court to defend oneself against such a charge. It would be far simpler to repeal those relevant parts of the Act, and allow robust debate to deal more swiftly and less expensively with the slings and arrows of outrageous statements.

    It should be clear that Australia’s way of life (culture) is attractive to people and we are in demand as a nation of residence. But multi-culturalism (as distinct from multi-ethnicity) is an impossible oxymoron. A culture is a collected set of shared values, and the multi-cultural policies pursued for over 20 years represent an ill-fated attempt to hold conflicting sets of values as being of equal status.

    It appears from the press release and your press conference statements that you subscribe to the concept that all cultures are of equal merit, whereas the steady flow of migrants demonstrates that they prefer Australia’s culture to that which they are leaving behind, ie. they value one over the other.

    This situation allows for misuse of the RDA, as described above, and to having Court outcomes which are contrary to the spirit of the Act, but enforcing a rigid kind of political correctness.

    I fervently hope that the cold hand of the RDA can be removed from the throats of public speakers so that debate can flourish.

    Your sincerely”

  105. Slayer of Memes

    The only recourse is to start hitting Leftists with the full force of S18C, and see how they enjoy being on the receiving end.

    Count down for Australian Jews to take Mike Carlton and Fairfax to court in 5… 4…

    Oh fuck it, we all know it’ll never happen. And sadly until they do, they deserve everything they get…

    Softcocks, the lot of them.

  106. Senile Old Guy

    The Rudd/Gillard circus delivered what it promised. And Gillard really only broke one promise: no carbon tax.

    The LNP under Abbott and Hockey have broken multiple promises and and turned their back on fundamental liberal principles. Abbott has now abandoned reform on 18C and is aiming to ramp up the invasion of privacy. And he is doing both for fundamentally illiberal and contradictory reasons.

    He has abandoned reform to 18C because of “community” concern — including objections from Muslims — and is ramping up the invasion of privacy because of concern about community safety — from Muslim terrorists. Say what?

    Abbott will be a one term PM and I will celebrate, even if it means Shorty is PM. Abbott was a great opposition leader but has been (mostly) a disaster as PM. Hockey is an incompetent treasurer.

    Morrisson and Bishop have done sterling work but it is not (quite) enough.

    The budget was, for me, the first sign that the wheels had come off the wagon (and gone hurtling off into a black hole, never to be seen again). Brandis’ capitulation on 18C was another. This gutless surrender by Abbott is the seal. He is appeasing the very segments of our society that he should be confronting.

    Time to go.

  107. Aussieute

    Carlton Resigns
    Why we have nothing to fear from the repeal of 18c
    The system works just fine

  108. Squirrel

    It’s good to know that all members of “Team Australia” will now receive even-handed treatment under 18C (I also believe in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy).

  109. Dagney J. Taggart

    Why all the tears about 18C? Its been around since the 90s and doesn’t seem to have hurt things much. It was only when the Dog Whistler got smacked for fibbing and had a massive dummy spit and big cry about it that people got worked up.

    And in any case, Islam isn’t a nationality, race or ethnicity (despite what some in One Nation might think). It is a religion. Or more accurately, an ideology. Criticise it all you want – just don’t make stuff up. It’s not that hard.

  110. wreckage

    Truth is not a defence under 18C, feelings of offence are the criteria. It’s a bad law, end of. It could be about custard, it’d still be a bad law.

    People defend it because the ads say it stops racism.

  111. wreckage

    And they get reported as “race-hate laws” not “sooky hurt feelings laws”…

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