Okay – this is very funny

Yes, yes. I know. We shouldn’t kick a man when he’s down and all …

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101 Responses to Okay – this is very funny

  1. JC

    Little unfair, Sinc. He was making a point based on reality.

  2. Sinclair Davidson

    JC! “The poor have fewer teeth”, not less teeth. :)

  3. tomix

    A rise in food prices won’t unfairly effect poor people , because they eat less food..

  4. Infidel Tiger

    It’s funny that lefties are crying like little girls about the fuel excise, but couldn’t give a shit about the budget havoc alcohol and tobacco excise increases have caused on poor families.

  5. Delta A

    A rise in the cost of toothpaste won’t affect poor people because… yeah, yeah.

  6. Baldrick

    A stupid off-the-cuff remark, poorly phrased and badly delivered … much like the Liberal Party as a whole.

  7. tomix

    He could be the Marie Antoinette to Abbott’s Louis XVI.

  8. candy

    Poor fellow, he’s being abused from pillar to post.

    In any case, in reduced circumstances it’s not the petrol that prevents car ownership, it’s the rego, insurance and also not the least maintenance/service costs to make it safe to drive.

  9. jumpnmcar

    The science is settled, it to do with earlobe size.
    The larger the earlobes the more incompetent.
    The above photo doesn’t show this very well and in old photos they were much smaller.
    Just look at Nancy Pelosi and Gillard.

    I apologise to the large earlobed among us but now you know the reason you fuck everything up.
    And don’t bother lopping them off, Chopper Read and Van Gogh tried that and failed to become competent.
    That’s just the way it is.

  10. Poor fellow, he’s being abused from pillar to post.

    And deservedly so, candy.
    He’s just given the Left a club that they will use against the Libs for the next two years.

  11. Baldrick

    In any case, in reduced circumstances it’s not the petrol that prevents car ownership, it’s the rego, insurance and also not the least maintenance/service costs to make it safe to drive.

    To use Joe’s terminology … poor people don’t pay rego, they don’t have insurance and every Housing Commission place I’ve seen has car ramps, where they service their cars themselves.

  12. Bear Necessities

    Every time Swan and Hockey have taken the advice of Treasury they get in trouble e.g. Mining tax, increase in fuel excise etc. It’s like Baldrick coming up with his cunning plan.

  13. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    How dumb was Hockey to even think of making that statement? Completely brainless. It’s clearly not true; the poor have to pay more of their income for cars and transports, and the costs are high, and politically very sensitive.

    Just another horrible clanger for the Libs, plus the loss of seats on the NSW Central Coast – why on earth can’t they find candidates with a brain and without mendacity? So grubby.

  14. Token

    Poor fellow, he’s being abused from pillar to post

    Do you think he has learned not to get into the rhetoric of class envy yet?

    Each time he indulges the fantasies of the left he gets burned.

    I’m guessing he will not and seek to emulate that definition of insanity attributed to Einstein.

  15. Viva

    Let them ride bicycles (apologies to Marie Antoinette).

  16. Token

    He’s just given the Left a club that they will use against the Libs for the next two years.

    Too true, and made the lot appear hapless.

  17. Tel

    Thatshhh not shhhhhho shhhhilly ashhhh it shhhhhoundshhhh, shhhhhunny Jim!

  18. vlad

    I saw him describe once as the stupidest man in federal politics; he’s certainly a contender.

    I’m no economist myself, but anyone who says what he said is no economist either, and shouldn’t be treasurer; and lacks the nous for politics generally.

    I’d say that he went into law because he lacks the honesty required to be a used-car salesman or real estate agent.

  19. Bruce of Newcastle

    Its amazing that Hockey survived through all those years doing Sunrise opposite Kevin Rudd when he has such a tin ear when it comes to the things ordinary voters are terrified of. Petrol price rises are one of them. If he knew his LNP history he’d know the removal of CPI adjustment of excise was forced upon Howard because of outrage from the punters. Now the punters are outraged with Hockey.

    The dead cat budget is a second big smelly reason why he just doesn’t have the political nous of a Costello or a Howard. Sadly he’s screwed the pooch.

    I’m interested that Teflon Turnbull has managed to stay right away from the flying budget crap. Ominous.

  20. Tel

    Raising taxes won’t unfairly affect Australian industry, because Australia doesn’t have a whole lot of industry.

  21. Adam D

    Good lol there. The point being missed in joes retardation is why the fuck did the libs introduce a fuel excise increase in the first place. Not only is petrol politics a terrible game to play u promised no increase in taxes you useless lot of…. Better not finish that the swear jar will burst. Who else comes up with shit policy and then double downs in the stupid and what happened to them despite a compliant media and friends in every major institution in this country?

  22. .

    Infidel Tiger
    #1418311, posted on August 15, 2014 at 6:43 pm
    It’s funny that lefties are crying like little girls about the fuel excise, but couldn’t give a shit about the budget havoc alcohol and tobacco excise increases have caused on poor families.

    They don’t care about fuel excise either…

  23. Fisky

    He’s the Jim Cairns of the Liberal Party, destined never to pass a budget in his life.

  24. Mark A

    @Bruce of Newcastle

    The fact that he was stupid enough to play the fall guy for Rudd says it all.
    He has no common sense or political nous.

  25. JohnA

    Baldrick #1418316, posted on August 15, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    A stupid off-the-cuff remark, poorly phrased and badly delivered … much like the Liberal Party as a whole.

    ARGH!! Would everybody PLEASE go and read Andrew Bolt’s fisking of this stupid meme?!!

    Mr Hockey was verballed by a hostile media pack and then attacked for stuff he didn’t say.

    Now the government has been forced to do stupid things – like make unnecessary apologies – by a media scrum: who the hell is running this country?

  26. OK John A. Went to the link – and it appears we were comprehensively lied to, and the Treasurer verballed.
    From The Bolta:
    What the Treasurer actually said:

    The people that actually pay the most are higher income people, with an increase in fuel excise. … The poorest people either don’t have cars or actually don’t drive very far in many cases.
    What one Age reporter, Jacob Saulwick, falsely claims Hockey said:
    Really poor people, Hockey claims, are too poor to drive.
    What one News Corp reporter, Leftist Malcolm Farr, falsely claims Hockey said:
    TREASURER Joe Hockey today argued his fuel tax increases weren’t unfair to low income earners because they couldn’t afford to own cars anyway.
    What one Age headline falsely claims Hockey said:
    Critics attack Joe Hockey’s claim poorest don’t drive cars as ‘completely fallacious’
    What the Daily Mail falsely claims Hockey said:
    ‘Poor people don’t drive cars’: Joe Hockey’s extraordinary riposte to critics who say his budget targets low-income earners

  27. MT Isa Miner

    Infidel Tiger

    #1418311, posted on August 15, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    It’s funny that lefties are crying like little girls about the fuel excise, but couldn’t give a shit about the budget havoc alcohol and tobacco excise increases have caused on poor families.

    Jesus, yeah, I.T. The cost of smokes! Who smokes? Normal people true because its a supposedly free country but also a LOT OF poor people, Aborigines, people with friggin mental health issues and genetic ADDICTION issues- where are the bleeding hearts with their papers and conferences? The Cat is the only place ever to see it as an issue. I know smokers are the undead lepers but KERIST! In my lifetime (1975), a pack of Craven A’s used to cost 65c!!! Someone with a calc figure out what the pirates take has grown by.

  28. Adam D

    We know that john but surely joe knows a hostile media by know. What he said was still fucking stupid, statistically poor people drive less or have no car so the fuel excise song hurt them proportionally more. How is that good politics it’s completely retarded and joe should be laughed out of his position. Look at the dogs breakfast he calls a budget and even the slow release of each budgetary measure it’s like death by a thousand cuts. He may as well have done it labor style do many fuck ups the msm couldn’t cover any of them adequately

  29. Ant

    Joe appears to have strange thoughts. His budget’s cactus – but it was cactus before the election given how stupidly the Liberals played it.

    And then his biography hits the stands shortly after budget week, when he’s featured prominently in the media, that has the endorsement of the red bandana twit with no neck from Sydney.

    Maybe he is just an ordinary Joe.

    On the up side, he’s not Wayne Swan.

  30. Sinclair Davidson

    On the up side, he’s not Wayne Swan.

    F.M.D – small mercies to be sure.

  31. Ant

    Lefties didn’t seem to be too worried about how skyrocketing utility prices were both screwing the poor and lining the pockets of countless Global Warming racketeers from coast to coast.

    From wind farms, solar schemes, desal plants, and a dozen other loopy schemes, it was pile on the ‘have nots’ time.

    Besides, don’t they love these sort of “price mechanisms” to control how the schlepps behave?

  32. Farmer Gez

    Funny how the dumb politics is all from the Libs side and not from the Nats. Some Cats refer to the Nats as hayseeds, rednecks or pickle farmers, but they seem smart enough not to piss everybody off every time they open their mouths. The likes of Anthony, Sinclair, Fischer and Anderson would not have tolerated some of the buffoons that inhabit the Lib front bench. Howard’s great skill was to keep the team on message and put a lid on the purists. Federal politics is no place to “learn on the job”.

  33. Peter from SA

    The dead cat budget is a second big smelly reason why he just doesn’t have the political nous of a Costello or a Howard. Sadly he’s screwed the pooch.

    Hockey was happy for the media to be there for him doing high-fives with his kids and wife after the great achievment of the budget. Clearly failed Political Judgement 101.

  34. Rabz

    On the up side, he’s not Wayne Swan.

    Give him time, my friend, give the man some time.

  35. entropy

    Adam D
    #1418404, posted on August 15, 2014 at 8:02 pm
    Good lol there. The point being missed in joes retardation is why the fuck did the libs introduce a fuel excise increase in the first place. Not only is petrol politics a terrible game to play u promised no increase in taxes you useless lot of…. Better not finish that the swear jar will burst. Who else comes up with shit policy and then double downs in the stupid and what happened to them despite a compliant media and friends in every major institution in this country?

    Quite effing so!

  36. JohnA

    Adam D #1418427, posted on August 15, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    We know that john but surely joe knows a hostile media by know.

    Well, how about we stop copying the stupid hostile media and give him incisive, intelligent comment instead?

    Who says we have to join with the media scrum in bayonetting our own? I seem to have spent half my spare time in the last few days rebutting this follow-on meme among a lot of my otherwise-discerning online friends.

    If Mr Hockey and Mr Abbott had received some intelligent feedback, they might have avoided the embarrassment of a useless apology, a public spat, and no doubt a downturn in the polls next week .

  37. squawkbox

    On the up side, he’s not Wayne Swan.

    The only reason he got appointed as far as I can see. Being brighter than Wayne Swan may be a necessary qualification for public office, but it is not a sufficient one. If it was, there are things in my fridge that would do a better job and with fewer embarrassing gaffes.

  38. wreckage

    The poorest people either don’t have cars or actually don’t drive very far in many cases.

    A bloody stupid thing to say, and re-indexing fuel excise was dumb enough, politically, to start with.

  39. stackja

    I do not own or drive a car.

  40. stackja

    Liberty Quotes
    The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.
    — Winston Churchill

    ALP wants more misery.

  41. Mark A

    John A
    They received plenty of “intelligent feedback“, Like don’t lie, don’t put up new taxes etc. Did they listen?

    I’m no fan of A Bolt but he consistently kept telling them not to make the same mistake as Gillard did.
    Did they listen?

  42. JohnA

    PS: hasn’t this blog been pointing out the statistical verity that the richest percentiles in Australia carry the greatest tax burden?

    How is that different from what the Treasurer said in the specific area of fuel tax?

  43. Eyrie

    I told Joe to give up politics when he was still in opposition as he was clearly no good at it. I see he’s gone back to the 1930s Chicago gangster style of dressing.

  44. stackja

    Eyrie
    #1418486, posted on August 15, 2014 at 9:10 pm
    I told Joe to give up politics when he was still in opposition as he was clearly no good at it. I see he’s gone back to the 1930s Chicago gangster style of dressing.

    ALP?

  45. It’s a good meme, even if not entirely fair…

    The joke I had with a friend was if he had a “rent tax”

    “But won’t that create problems with homelessness?”
    “No – the homeless don’t pay rent, so it’s actually quite a progressive tax!”

    Joe is hopeless…. and even though the fuel levy increase is a mere 1 cent, and barely significant, the fuel levy in itself is – like all energy taxes – a direct tax on the standard of living. It is the worst of all taxes – even worse than payroll tax.

    Canning the carbon tax only to up the fuel levy is beyond retarded. This mob is completely and utterly hopeless, and Hockey is out of his depth.

  46. entropy

    i really, really hate automatic indexation of any charge or tax. It avoids all that nasty business of having to ask parliament of ran increase whenever the spending gets too much. So have at the useless bag of wind.

    There seems to be plenty of media commentary that an indexed full excise is a good thing, but buggered if I understand how it could be so.

  47. Notafan

    I can’t understand why the MSM don’t just adore Joe, he’s a Palestinian refuge!
    (His dad came over from Palestine in 1948)

  48. Rabz

    an indexed fuel excise is a good thing

    Yep, you’ve gotta love those taxes on taxes. Sheer bloody genius.

  49. stackja

    Notafan
    #1418507, posted on August 15, 2014 at 9:23 pm
    I can’t understand why the MSM don’t just adore Joe, he’s a Palestinian refuge!
    (His dad came over from Palestine in 1948)

    But not of the Mo tribe.

  50. Notafan

    Wrong tribe indeed, otherwise he’d probably be doing something completely different.

  51. Roger

    Joe’s a nice guy, but politically and economically he’s an idiot who should never have been let near such a crucial office as Treasurer.

  52. val majkus

    don’t put up new taxes etc

    a rise in taxes won’t hurt the rich because they have more money

  53. sabrina

    I feel for him now, he is genuinely sorry it seems.

  54. Rob MW

    This could be worth watching………gummy grey-nomads pulling fucking big caravans with fuel efficient minnie-minors.

  55. stackja

    JohnA
    #1418410, posted on August 15, 2014 at 8:06 pm who the hell is running this country?

    ALP/MSM as usual.

  56. Fisky

    Canning the carbon tax only to up the fuel levy is beyond retarded. This mob is completely and utterly hopeless, and Hockey is out of his depth.

    They’re a joke of a government.

  57. stackja

    Liberty Quotes
    The difference between the two styles of debate, left-wing and right-wing, partly comes down to a differing view of civility, I think – for the right, civility is tolerating and even enjoying the bluster of one’s enemies. For the left, civility seems more to involve becoming offended on behalf of others.
    — Timothy Train

  58. john constantine

    gillard had the media thing down pat.

    no public talkback, no public ambush opportunities.

    gillard only did ‘feed the pets’ stuff with the media.

    Why bother to engage with those in the media ‘fundementally change australia’ pack?.

    Howard was hated, but rarely ambushed.

    I want to see abbott’s media interviews done while jogging [also want to see shorten/abbott debates conducted with each side by side on racing bikes]

    —Why do long explanations to those just waiting for a soundbite gotcha–

  59. Matt

    Perhaps we were spoilt by Costello, but Hockey has been a crushing disappointment. Politically and economically hopeless. Still 10x better than Swan, but that’s damning praise indeed.

    Perhaps we need:
    Julie Bishop as PM and Minister of Glaring
    Malcolm Turnbull as Minister of Adding Up and Knowing Things
    Scott Morrison for Minister of Defence, Border Protection and General Ass-Kickery

  60. let’s back up a bit to how this whole thing started. It started because Hockey reindexed the fuel excise.
    That’s a tax increase. Fuel is going to cost more because it will be taxed more.
    They went against their principles and look what happens. Now they’re having a lonely job selling their policies.

    This, guys, is why you need to keep your supporters happy. Because no matter how big your army of spin doctors, advisors and staffers, you can’t sell your agenda on your own. You need constituencies and supporters as allies.

    Otherwise, one slip of the tongue and you’re in trouble.

    So Hockey slipped up. But because the policy is unprincipled and has no constituency, the slip up becomes the end of the discussion. There’s no comeback.

  61. outsider

    These guys make Howard and Costello look like geniuses. It’s now tragicomic, almost entertaining, but not quite. Yet.

  62. Greg James

    How dumb was Hockey to even think of making that statement? Completely brainless. It’s clearly not true; the poor have to pay more of their income for cars and transports, and the costs are high, and politically very sensitive.

    It’s actually even worse than that for Hockey. The thing is, he clearly has some [obviously ridiculous] idea in his mind that he is actually PM material, but this ridiculous statement has made sure that that idea is one which will most certainly never come to pass.

  63. Adam D

    I do like the idea for a minister for arse-kickery

    @ aussiepundit – beautifully put, the libs are getting smashed on my Facebook feed and I won’t do a thing about it, the right are more attached to the principal than the team (generally) and I’m not going to defend a budget with tax increases in it, times this by thousands and the libs will walk straight back into opposition

  64. MartinG

    Tel
    #1418392, posted on August 15, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Raising taxes won’t unfairly affect Australian industry, because Australia doesn’t have a whole lot of industry.

    Now don’t get sarcy Tel. :)

    Australia doesn’t have a whole lot of industry because of it’s high taxes.

  65. MartinG

    JohnA
    #1418410, posted on August 15, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    ARGH!! Would everybody PLEASE go and read Andrew Bolt’s fisking of this stupid meme?!!

    Mr Hockey was verballed by a hostile media pack and then attacked for stuff he didn’t say.

    Now the government has been forced to do stupid things – like make unnecessary apologies – by a media scrum: who the hell is running this country?

    Abbott is a disloyal arshole. He should have backed Hockey up, but instead he allowed the media to dictate the narrative.

  66. MartinG

    Adam D
    #1418427, posted on August 15, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    We know that john but surely joe knows a hostile media by know. What he said was still fucking stupid, statistically poor people drive less or have no car so the fuel excise song hurt them proportionally more.

    statistically poor low income earning people drive less or have no car so the fuel excise song hurt them proportionally more.

    Hockey was talking gross tax paid. Not proportionality. He was canvassing reasons why this may be so.

    How is that good politics it’s completely retarded and joe should be laughed out of his position. Look at the dogs breakfast he calls a budget and even the slow release of each budgetary measure it’s like death by a thousand cuts. He may as well have done it labor style do many fuck ups the msm couldn’t cover any of them adequately

    Now, I’ll concede the point you are making here. It’s a dog of a budget.

  67. MartinG

    wreckage
    #1418466, posted on August 15, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    A bloody stupid thing to say, and re-indexing fuel excise was dumb enough, politically, to start with.

    The vast majority of the budget was a lazy incompetent tax grab. Only a small proportion of it dealt with spending.

  68. MartinG

    stackja
    #1418467, posted on August 15, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    I do not own or drive a car.

    I would has at a guess you would not describe yourself as poor.

    The hostile media a playing the politics of envy and the Liberals are letting them. Abbott is a weak leader, he has failed to take control and delivered a budget that could have been written by any big spending socialist government.

  69. MartinG

    val majkus
    #1418541, posted on August 15, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    don’t put up new taxes etc

    a rise in taxes won’t hurt the rich because they have more money

    Yea, lets tax the rich bastards so we can all be equally poor. I’m sure you will be happy when when the wealth squandering government defines you as one of the rich bastards and decides you should pay more tax. Or perhaps you don’t work and will be happy with the gift of some else’s wealth production because you’re poor.

  70. Clam Chowdah

    These guys make Howard and Costello look like geniuses. It’s now tragicomic, almost entertaining, but not quite. Yet.

    Your inference regarding Howard and Costello is odd.

  71. Robert O.

    The liberals were elected to clean-up Labor’s economic mess, but have only made a token effort on the expenditure side. Governments do really not produce anything much of the wealth of the country, just put fences in way of people who do create the wealth and employ people in doing so. But this concept seems to be alien to politicians. They know that they can always tax petrol, tobacco and alcohol because generally consumption of these commodities doesn’t drop. How much tax or excise exists on these commodities; it used to be more than two thirds probably more.

  72. duncanm

    The stupid thing about this, of course, is that if the Libs had lived up to their promise and gone in a slashin’ and a burnin’, the re-introduction of the fuel excise indexation would have been drowned in the cacophony of squealing over all the pet causes (ABC, Dept of small squirrels, etc etc).

  73. Alfonso

    Jolly Joe’s heart isn’t in it.
    He’s just another big govt. welfare state variation that populates the Liberal party.

  74. Tel

    Australia doesn’t have a whole lot of industry because of it’s high taxes.

    And poor people don’t have a whole lot of teeth because dentistry is bloody expensive.

  75. And poor people don’t have a whole lot of teeth because dentistry is bloody expensive.

    Australians are travelling to Asia – predominantly India and Thailand – to get dental work done.

    The system is over-regulated to the point of being broken.

  76. Tel

    The people that actually pay the most are higher income people, with an increase in fuel excise. … The poorest people either don’t have cars or actually don’t drive very far in many cases.

    Hockey is strictly correct, problem is that the poorest people without cars probably are never going to vote LNP.

    Instead it is the working poor who do have cars (often older cars, not the best fuel efficiency) and also have jobs but not high paying jobs who will carry the brunt of it. Since houses on the edge of town are cheaper, but jobs are not available in those areas, these are the people who travel longer distances to work. They are also part of the LNP base, as Howard called them “the Battlers”.

  77. Rabz

    This has been alluded to elsewhere, but let’s just put this idea out there again.

    Why are those dishonest hypocrites at the ALPBC screeching about a very small increase in the cost of fuel, given gerbil worming, peak oil, air pollution, etc, especially when they demand people stop using cars so often, if at all? If you take their beliefs to their logical conclusion, poor people should use public transport, ride a pushbike or walk, FFS.

    Oh that’s right, it’s because the ALPBC is full of barking mad regressive bludgers, hoovering the taxes of people who don’t read, listen to or watch it.

    Just shut the boody thing down and fire them all, FFS.

  78. Andrew

    I did enjoy this meme and liked it on a leftoid’s page. This one was funny.

    In a parallel universe, Gillard said the same thing. (As the real quote. Not the fake quotes.) News Ltd stitched her up with a verballing. Everyone in the meeja screeched “Miss O.G. Knee!!!” There was a meeja enquiry, News Corp was permanently deregistered. The country held a national day of apology for it.

  79. cuckoo

    Joe should have introduced a tax on big flatscreen tvs, on the grounds that “poor” people don’t own such things. It would have been fun watching all the ACOSS/ABC/Fairfax types screaming that of course “poor” people own big flatscreen tvs. As indeed they do. (Or maybe aircon units.) I’m old enough to remember the days under John Howard when the big flatscreen was the ultimate symbol of the loathed ‘aspirational’ voter. I have lefty friends who still regard them as badges of shame.

  80. Mr Hockey was verballed by a hostile media pack and then attacked for stuff he didn’t say.

    Too right. If the poorest people are living under bridges, how the hell are they affected by the fuel excise? That these people get apoplectic over things he didn’t say while staying silent on mass head loppings speaks volumes. That Joe is an idiot is beside the point.

  81. Tel

    If you take their beliefs to their logical conclusion, poor people should use public transport, ride a pushbike or walk, FFS.

    No, their belief is that ALL people should use public transport, ride a pushbike or walk… I mean all people other than themselves.

    Their problem with Hockey is quite different, he said “the poorest people” but only genuine lefting lovies with real empathy are allowed to pretend they know how poor people feel.

  82. Rob

    Hey Sinc, that ‘s a pretty crappy contribution.

  83. will

    not only is that dental thing a stupid straw man, so is this.

    anyone with a car, and means to afford running it, is probably fat from having too much food would, like almost all people in this country, be among the worlds top 1% of wealthly.

  84. MT Isa Miner

    Matt

    #1418589, posted on August 15, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    Perhaps we were spoilt by Costello, but Hockey has been a crushing disappointment. Politically and economically hopeless. Still 10x better than Swan, but that’s damning praise indeed.

    Perhaps we need:
    Julie Bishop as PM and Minister of Glaring
    Malcolm Turnbull as Minister of Adding Up votes in his own electorate and Knowing Fuck all about Anything except self interest. Pure LINO.
    Scott Morrison for Minister of Defence, Border Protection and General Ass-Kickery

  85. Dan

    All these tax hikes make me wonder if the current government will use that revenue to bribe the lower xlasses come election time

  86. Shy Ted

    As I gaze out of my office window, facing a Centrelink office, I feel for them the impact it will have on the poorest people, entering said office. Cut back on tattoos? Fewer piercings. Fewer fags. The ugg boots and things will have to last another season. Mag wheels on the car, they’ll have to go. That loud exhaust isn’t paid for yet. How will they feed the pitbull? And as they get back in their cars and accidentally kick out a few pizza boxes and junk food wrappers, a few empty alcopop cans and the car keys get tangled up in the gold jewellery, I think, “Gee I’d like to be that poor”.

  87. Oh come on

    No, consider Hockey down when he is out. At that point we can be magnanimous. Until then, it’s open season on the cigar chomping hater of poor people.

    Did I mention how much I loathe the LNP?

  88. vlad #1418388, posted on August 15, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    I’d say that he went into law because he lacks the honesty required to be a used-car salesman or real estate agent.

    Worth repeating

  89. MartinG

    Oh come on
    #1419216, posted on August 16, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    No, consider Hockey down when he is out. At that point we can be magnanimous. Until then, it’s open season on the cigar chomping hater of poor people.

    Did I mention how much I loathe the LNP?

    I’ve been reading excerpts of Wayne Swans book in the AFR. Due to the incompetence of Abbott and Hockey, Australia might end up with another Labor/Green government at the next election.

    Did I mention how much I loathe Tony Abbott?

  90. Boo hoo!! The meja is telling porkies!

    Dear Mr Bolt – Grow up

    Dear Mr Hockey, you accept the title and pay of treasurer, so get on with the job

  91. MartinG

    Grigory Potemkin
    #1419257, posted on August 16, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    Boo hoo!! The meja is telling porkies!

    Dear Mr Bolt – Grow up

    Dear Mr Hockey, you accept the title and pay of treasurer, so get on with the job

    He is getting on with the job. The trouble is he is wrecking the economy.

    Did I mention how much I loathe the current LNP?

  92. egg_

    Was Staples smoking a ‘fat cat’ cigar when he made the ‘cars’ remark – the meeja had a field day with a line like that, ‘course.
    Out of touch PS schoolboy, Keating would’ve made mince meat of him in the manner of Alexander Downer.

  93. JohnA

    The Beer Whisperer #1418977, posted on August 16, 2014 at 9:18 am

    Mr Hockey was verballed by a hostile media pack and then attacked for stuff he didn’t say.

    Too right. If the poorest people are living under bridges, how the hell are they affected by the fuel excise? That these people get apoplectic over things he didn’t say while staying silent on mass head loppings speaks volumes. That Joe is an idiot is beside the point.

    But it doesn’t help if those of us here who claim intelligence are doing just as badly with a frame up as the leftist, biased media we declaim, deride and denigrate.

    For some strange reason I am reminded of the driver’s closing words in the old Lucky Starr song “I’ve Been Everywhere”:

    “Listen mate, there’s only one place you haven’t been –
    And you don’t need my help to get there!”

    The biased media don’t need our help to get there either.

  94. wreckage

    It is funny that the Left are howling at an increase in the cost of fuel. But also good, because fuck them and their anti-energy bullshit.

  95. Sense & Sensibility

    I do find all the Abbott hate on here a bit much. It feels like I’m on a leftist blog! The government has made some mistakes, but they are in a very difficult position with a hostile senate and a hostile media.

    That said, I was somewhat shocked at their decision to increase taxes for higher income earners to make the budget seem more “fair”. I guess that was the first indication that they were not planning to govern based on principles, but by kowtowing to various groups.

    Joe Hockey’s comments were horribly distorted and likely taken out of context. We don’t know what the question was, so we don’t know if his point was about the impact the increase in fuel excise would have on the poorest people as individuals, or a larger point about how much of the tax intake would come from poorer people as opposed to the wealthier people.

    The biggest miscalculation the government has made, though, and the one that has lost them my vote at the next election, was dropping the repeal of Section 18C. Free speech is a fundamental principle which I know Tony Abbott believes in, yet he still felt it okay to trade it for support for his anti-terror legislation. He may not have been able to get it through the senate, but he should have tried anyway. I don’t hate Abbott or the LNP. They’re certainly better than Labor/Greens! But I am hugely disappointed in the party as a whole and in Abbott in particular. And yes, there are other options!

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