Wednesday Forum: August 20, 2014

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  1. Gab

    Oh, I see the old man beat me to it. Must have new batteries in his motorscooter.

  2. Mater

    Looks like Martin Bowles.

  3. duncanm

    Kae..fillet of fish at Maccas

    last time I had one of those, it was raw

  4. Kae – if they don’t have Onigiri or takoyaki don’t enter.

  5. Grigory M

    Can anyone advise who was the bureaucrat to the right of Morrison?

    To the right, looking at the TV? (ie. on Morrison’s left?

    Immigration Department Secretary, Martin Bowles.

  6. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Gabrielle at 8:57 pm:

    “Kae

    There appears to be a couple of sushi places in Armidale.

    Ten Koo Sushi
    Phone 02 6771 2102
    Address Beardy Street Mall

    Go Sushi Kick Juice
    Shp3/ 225 Beardy Swy
    Armidale NSW 2350
    (02) 6771 5522

    See speedy old Mick – further up the page where he responded a good half hour faster than a much younger me.”

  7. Leigh Lowe

    Gab.
    I think it might be Bowles.
    Both he and Pezzullo were in attendance at the Inquisition by Senator Dugong earlier this year, along with General Campbell.
    It is apparent that all three have a great regard for Morrison, and that respect is reciprocated. They absolutely tag-team every faux-compassionista they come up against.
    I see two blokes in Bowles and Pezzullo who are heartily fucking sick of answering whinging queries about Hamid’s missing lap-top or Mustafa’s chronic acne which has flared up in detention.
    They look like they are revelling in having a Minister who enables them to actually do their jobs and doesn’t turn to jelly as soon as some snivelling 22-year-old journo tart shoves a microphone at him.

  8. Grigory M

    Kae..fillet of fish at Maccas

    last time I had one of those, it was raw

    Filet o Fish – no sauce – one of only 2 menu items I eat from Maccas. Had it countless times at lots of Maccas, here and overseas – has always been properly cooked. Other Maccas item I enjoy is Pancakes with Maple Syrup for breakfast. Skinny Capuccino to drink with them – always delicious.

  9. They look like they are revelling in having a Minister who enables them to actually do their jobs and doesn’t turn to jelly as soon as some snivelling 22-year-old journo tart shoves a microphone at him.

    Yep that pretty well covers it, they even smiled as they slapped them down.

  10. Leigh Lowe

    Kae.
    The formula for the probability of getting food poisoning from sushi is ….
    k/2/100
    Where k is “kilometres from the sea”.
    Thus if you are 200 kilometres inland you are almost 100% certain to get crook from eating raw fish.

  11. Leigh Lowe

    Looks like Martin Bowles.

    Thanks for that.
    As I said … a bloody A-Grader.
    When you see blokes like that in action it is one of the few times you gladly hand over your PAYG.

  12. Makka

    “Leigh Lowe
    #1426416, posted on August 22, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    And somehow we need to get these head kickers into the PM suite. So that when anyone takes a shot at them it’s not the other cheek they get. But 2 x 4′s and boots ready to take them on. They aren’t the only ones heartily sick of seeing our team pandering to Leftscum.

  13. Gab

    They absolutely tag-team every faux-compassionista they come up against.
    I see two blokes in Bowles and Pezzullo who are heartily fucking sick of answering whinging queries about Hamid’s missing lap-top or Mustafa’s chronic acne which has flared up in detention.

    I think you’re right in that is was Bowles, Leigh. And yes it is clear they enjoy working with the Minister. Btw, if you ever call Morrison’s office – either in Canberra or Cronulla – you’ll notice the upbeat way the phone is answered by the staff. They clearly hit the jackpot working for that man.

  14. ilet o Fish – no sauce – one of only 2 menu items I eat from Maccas.

    Sounds dreadful.

  15. Gab

    You’re going so fast, Mick, you’ll get a speeding ticket soon.

  16. Leigh Lowe

    I think you’re right in that is was Bowles, Leigh. And yes it is clear they enjoy working with the Minister. Btw, if you ever call Morrison’s office – either in Canberra or Cronulla – you’ll notice the upbeat way the phone is answered by the staff. They clearly hit the jackpot working for that man.

    Following Candy’s comment earlier, I fired off a “well done that man” e-mail to Morrison’s office

  17. Mater

    Thanks for that.
    As I said … a bloody A-Grader.
    When you see blokes like that in action it is one of the few times you gladly hand over your PAYG.

    Leigh, I agree.
    It’s more than the right attitude. Their success stems from being completely informed. How easy would it have been for the quip about the armed guards to go through unchallenged if they weren’t aware of such small details. They only get one chance to highlight such lies and the information must be immediately available (and used to maximum affect). Hunt destroyed that ABC radio host several days ago using the same method.

  18. Snoopy

    I couldn’t help myself.

    https://www.humanrights.gov.au/contact-us-2

    Hey Gillian! Morrison owns your sorry arse.

  19. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Mater:

    Hunt destroyed that ABC radio host several days ago using the same method.

    Is there a link to this? been working too hard to keep up. Got some freelance stuff to write. :)

  20. Mater

    Mk50,
    I’ll look back for your.
    Wait out.

  21. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Ta.

  22. Leigh Lowe

    Thanks for the link Snoopy.
    I have also fired of a message to Gilly.

    A quick note for Gilly Triggs (I am sending this to your “education” link because Mrs Triggs would appear to be in need of some education).
    The phrase “armed guards” is used to refer to guards who carry firearms (unlike those working for DIMIA on Christmas Island). Mrs Triggs may be under the misapprehension that the term “armed guard” is more literal. That is, people who are guards who also possess a pair of upper limbs.
    Just helping her sort that one out.
    Also, it might be useful if Mrs Triggs informs herself of the difference between a prison (eg Long Bay, Alcatraz) and a holiday camp (eg Christmas Island, Nauran, Manas Island).

  23. Tom

    From Gab (much earlier):

    The other thing Morrison does is never ever lets them get away with a false premise in their question. Like he did today with Madam Trigg calling the detention centers – reopened during Labor’s terms – “prisons”. Paraphrased, Morrison: “So you’re saying these detention centers are just like Long Bay gaol, are you?” (It was at that point Trigss dragged out her qualifications as a lawyer (not pertinent at all) and asked to move on, at which point Morrison again asked her the question, not allowing her to move on until he was good and ready. Superb viewing it was. Morrison earns every cent of his wages.

    The HRC is understandable only if you recognise exactly what it is: an Alinskyist activist organisation formed with the sole purpose of winning ideological wars. It doesn’t exist to defend human rights or freedoms: it was formed by leftists specifically to defeat consrvative orthodoxy and destroy accepted social institutions and behaviours.

    The narrative is formulated in advance from a series of emotive and usually childish positions that its activists consider are morally superior. In this case, it is that detention of illegal immigrants is per se cruel and must be ended immediately. As we saw today, these positions are not spontaneous; nor can they be defended from an unanticipated superior morality, like the need for the protection of life.

    At one point today, Triggs couldn’t hide her glee when she miscalculated that she had skewered Morrison with her pre-formulated Alinskyist power play. She was actually laughing as she delivered what she had thought would be the coup de grace.

    She had thought the Christmas Island gaol analogy wouldn’t be challenged and immediately folded when it was.

    Counsel assisting Naomi Sharp also presented a series of pre-rehearsed attempted Alinskyist gotchas that didn’t anticipate Morrison’s withering response.

    Lessons: a) the only thing leftists care about is victory for the tribe using feelgood emotions that, for example, cannot comprehend or abide something as sophisticated as a national immigration program with objectives and targets; b) leftist ideology is childish and is unused to being challenged; c) for 40 years, the adults who actually run society have believed that leftists were harmless and therefore have not fought the subversion of key institutions; and d) only in the past five years have non-leftists begun to understand that leftism no longer has a benign core, but exists only to destroy everything in its path.

    The transcript of this morning’s confrontation will contain much learning.

  24. Leigh Lowe

    From the ABC report of Morrison’s mauling of Triggs:-

    During the inquiry, Mr Morrison and the head of the Human Rights Commission clashed over whether the Christmas Island detention centre is a prison.

    Commission president Gillian Triggs told the inquiry she saw little difference between locked detention and a prison.

    “I have been a practising lawyer since I was 22 years old and I have been to many prisons. I know a prison when I see it,” she said.

    Mr Morrison questioned the comparison.

    “You’ve been in prisons, so you are telling me that the Phosphate Hill compound on Christmas Island is the same as Long Bay jail?” he asked.

    “I’m not saying they are equivalent,” Ms Triggs responded.

    Mr Morrison responded by suggesting Ms Triggs “move on”.

    Completely misrepresents the exchange.
    It reads like Morrison offered the “move on” comment to evade questioning.
    The truth is he totally wiped the floor with Triggs, repeating his challenge a second time after Triggs tried to “move on” after she was caught in a lie.
    Morrison’s “move on” comment was an echo of Grigg’s attempt to dodge the challenge a minute or so earlier. In effect, Morrison was saying … “We will move on when I am good and fucking ready, darling”

  25. stackja

    David Eastman to face retrial after court quashes conviction for Colin Winchester killing.
    linky

  26. .

    The HRC is understandable only if you recognise exactly what it is: an Alinskyist activist organisation formed with the sole purpose of winning ideological wars. It doesn’t exist to defend human rights or freedoms: it was formed by leftists specifically to defeat consrvative orthodoxy and destroy accepted social institutions and behaviours.

    Shut it down. The Liberals have no votes to lose on this one.

  27. stackja

    Paul Gallen is ready to be branded a drug cheat, saying he will “let people make up their own mind” after accepting a deal with the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority on Friday.

    Read more: linky

    Sack Paul Gallen as Blues captain over drug scandal
    Peter FitzSimons
    Read more: linky

  28. Leigh Lowe

    Tom.
    I missed Gab’s earlier comment which is a deadly accurate representation of what happened.

    It was at that point Trigss dragged out her qualifications as a lawyer (not pertinent at all) and asked to move on, at which point Morrison again asked her the question, not allowing her to move on until he was good and ready.

    Compare and contrast the ABC reporting of the exchange that I posted above which implies the “move on” comment came first from Morrison to avoid answering Trigg’s stupid “jail” comment, supported by “don’t hit me … I’m a lawyer”

  29. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “What we do is entirely different. We make war as personal as a punch on the nose. We can be selective, applying precisely the required amount of pressure at the specified point, at a designated time – we’ve never been told to go down and kill or capture all left- handed redheads in a particular area, but if they tell us to, we can. We will.

    We are the boys who go to a particular place, at H – hour, occupy a designated terrain, stand on it, dig the enemy out of their holes, force them then and there to surrender, or die. We’re the bloody infantry, the doughboy, the duckfoot, the foot soldier who goes where the enemy is and takes him on IN PERSON.”

    Robert Heinlein, “Starship Troopers,”, P 87.

    “What he said!!! What he said!!! ZK2A, as the whisky sinks lower in the decanter, and the torn muscles hurt like hell, and you wonder where the days of your youth went.

    Country boy, in the recruiting office, over forty years ago. “Son, you are six feet tall, big bloke like you , size twelve boots. From the bush, I see. How would you like to be an infantryman?”

  30. Tom

    Dot, Abbott’s COS is a leftist who used to work for Lord Wentworth. That is why Abbott continues to humiliate himself by crawling to people who will never vote for him. His chief advisor is telling him it’s “good politics”.

  31. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Tim Blair recounts how a pretend Australian death cultist gaoled today:

    “had been under surveillance by ASIO for four years when he made threats over the phone to an ASIO officer and a police member of the Joint Counter Terrorism Team on May 2 and 10 last year.”

    He “will be released from prison in ten years in five years in one year in six months on November 19.”

    So that shambling, shuffling dill heading ASIO (who this week cuddled up publicly to “one of the world’s great and enriching religions”) has his blokes watching one of ‘em for four years, listening to open and direct threats to them and today, more than a year after, achieving just 38 weeks in the slammer for Abdul el Bul Bul.

    Just like Mrszzz Triggs, this drongo today trousered six or seven thousand dollars for his week’s work and sauntered off home, well pleased with himself.

    He is in charge of the country’s non existent security.

    Its little wonder that the death cultists think know they will win.

  32. Toiling Mass

    Abbott’s COS is a leftist who used to work for Lord Wentworth.

    Abbott must find it perpetually frustrating that he doesn’t know who has the authority to re-assign his staff.

  33. Leigh Lowe

    Paul Gallen is ready to be branded a drug cheat, saying he will “let people make up their own mind” after accepting a deal with the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority on Friday.

    Gallen is clearly bound by some form of non-disclosure and non-disparagement clause.
    Let’s reverse the questioning here.
    If Gallen and Co are guilty of serious doping offences (“blackest day”), why have ASADA let them off with what is effectively a three week ban, in a “dead rubber” season?
    It looks like ASADA is condoning drug cheating by handing out wet lettuce penalties for serious offences.
    Of course, the truth is, ASADA have painted themselves into a corner with their ridiculous and unsubstantiated accusations (prompted by Lundy and ) and need some admissions to justify their outlandish claims.
    The solution is to hand out some penalties which have a high headline value – “one year bans” – when the ban is meaningless, along with some sweeteners from the NRL like no loss of pay and watertight legal gags.
    Wait until Gallen is retired and hear what he has to say then.

  34. C.L.

    Wow. ASIO must feel really important.

    Repeatedly threaten terrorist attacks – ie slitting ASIO throats – and the courts are pretty much cool with that.

    Judge McClintock accepted his “genuine expression of remorse,” but said he needed to impose a term of imprisonment to deter others.

    Al-Ahmadzai has had his sentence backdated to February 23, he will be released on November 19.

    ♫ Aust-ral-ia, fuck yeah! ♬

  35. Tiny Dancer

    Any day Manly gets beaten it’s a great day. Any day Parra beat Manly is even better. Pity the refs were worse than incompetent.

  36. C.L.

    Oh, yeah. The refereeing was a disgrace.

    It’s a CONTACT sport, you Marys.

    But coming back from 12-zip at half time to bury the Sea-eagles 22-12 was truly righteous.

  37. Vic in Prossy

    Unfortunately the ABC doesn”t know the difference between “swam” and “swum”.

  38. C.L.

    Ahahahahahaha.

    Lefties organised a “Day of Rage” in Seattle over the Brown shooting in Ferguson, MI.

    Behold the rage.

    Meanwhile …

    Liberal Media Pulls Out of Ferguson After Reports of Officer Wilson’s Busted Up Face.

  39. Tiny Dancer

    Gallen & co are round as a hoop for it. Only rugby league could be this hopeless. If the players didn’t know it was illegal then fight it. I’m sick of leaguies pleading to charges and then whinging.

  40. nilk

    Just read this – that is wonderful. Not wanting to seem to be doing a ‘me too, me too’, but a young girl I know (a previous colleague) was also diagnosed with MS – she met a really decent chap who wanted to marry her regardless. They now have a beautiful daughter. Their wedding was one of the most moving I have ever been to.

    Shelley that sounds like a good friend of mine (I was one of the bridesmaids).

    And Grigory, lovely to hear that Mrs. P’s doing well and thumbing her nose at the experts, and there are young Potemkins to carry on the tradition.

    It’s remarkable how many negative opinions there are; they far outweigh the positive ones.

  41. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Leigh Lowe at 10:10 pm:

    “From the ABC report of Morrison’s mauling of Triggs:-

    … “I have been a practising lawyer since I was 22 years old …”

    Hang on – that was a long, long time ago old girl (and it shows) but you lie nonetheless.

    1. Two years at most as “Legal Advisory to the (Dallas) Chief of Police on the 1964 Civil Rights legislation” in 1985
    2. “In 1987, Triggs joined Mallesons Stephen Jaques, where she worked as a consultant on international law. Subsequently, Triggs practised as a barrister at Sydney barristers’ chambers Seven Wentworth Chambers. It is unclear how long, if at all, Triggs was full time in these positions as she was a full time Professor at Melbourne Law School from 1996 to 2005.”

    does not make a practising lawyer.

    She might have a piece of paper with those words on it but, in times past, I wouldn’t have our consulting solicitor check on her availability to assist the cleaners do the head office toilets, let alone act on a legal matter for us.

    Her résumé is chock full of sheltered workshop university and otherwise unemployable public servant work and and sparse, sparse, sparse on income earning legal practice – no more than five years and that’s being generous.

    A well practised lying Labor wymminses, this one.

    Further, she’s just on 69. Why wasn’t she turfed four years ago just like everyone else?

  42. Mike of Marion

    Night , night from SA

  43. Tiny Dancer

    Doubt that the members of Wentworth Chambers went to visit clients in prison. She’s full of shit. International law consultants do not switch over to a criminal practice. Does. Not. Happen.

  44. nilk

    Nighty night, Mike.

    Here’s a little song to send you off to sleep. :D

  45. MartinG

    Token
    #1426135, posted on August 22, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    Not much of a strategist are you. Drones and high altitude air strikes have proven highly effective. They are hated by the Taliban, Hamas and al-Qaeda because they have literally been the death of many of their leaders.

    Thanks for that MartinG. You actually stated everything I knew and agreed with.

    I do ask you reference Cynical’s original post where he was reflecting Waled Ali’s view, and understand my comment in that context.

    Token my friend, I can’t correctly contextualize my posts unless they have the reference number and name in the body of the message. It seems to be a bad habit with the Cats that they post unreferenced messages to each other and expect everyone else to know who they are replying to and what subject they are addressing.

    It makes it look like Catallaxy is some kind of closed club where outsiders are left out because they don’t get the nod and wink approach to the threads.

    It’s either lazy or perhaps it’s a lack of knowledge by many on how to use long and diverse forums. It doesn’t take much effort and is of benefit to the person replying to the post and the receiver. Now let me explain, using this message.

    Look at the top of my reply and you will see the reference which can be used to trace the thread back to it’s source.

    Token
    #1426135, posted on August 22, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    Every browser I know has a search text function built into it and and usually opens as a non-intrusive box somewhere but mostly at the the bottom of the browser.

    When replying to a post the first thing you should do is copy the name reference number to the clip board for pasting. Then you boldly, and without fear scroll all the way down to the reply box and paste it as the header.

    OMG how am I ever going to find my way back to the message I was replying to, I hear you say.

    Now here’s the magic. If it’s not already open, then open the search box. From the reply box you copy the massage reference number #1426135 and paste it to the search dialogue box.

    Now hit ‘search’ and within two clicks you will be back to the message you were replying to.

    Try it now and you will see you can bounce between my reply and your post.

    A quick way of doing it is to copy the entire message you wish to reply to including the name and reference number and paste it in the reply box.

    Then cut and edit it and when you are happy with the way things look, post it.

    If your browser doesn’t have a discrete search box, junk the browser.

    We all need sleep and often like to pick up on any replies to posts we may have sent earlier. I missed yours until did a search for MartinG references.

    Now I will search for references to Waled Ali by Cynical. I’ll post the result as soon as I think I found it.
    Tick tick tick

  46. Leigh Lowe

    Unfortunately the ABC doesn”t know the difference between “swam” and “swum”.

    The past tense is “swimmed”

  47. Leigh Lowe

    Doubt that the members of Wentworth Chambers went to visit clients in prison. She’s full of shit. International law consultants do not switch over to a criminal practice. Does. Not. Happen.

    When one works for a lefty law firm, there is no need to leave the office in search of criminals.

  48. MartinG

    MartinG
    #1426509, posted on August 22, 2014 at 11:19 pm ->

    Tick tick tick

    Token
    #1426135, posted on August 22, 2014 at 2:27 pm ->

    I do ask you reference Cynical’s original post where he was reflecting Waled Ali’s view, and understand my comment in that context.


    cynical1
    #1426235, posted on August 22, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    Spot the clue…

    Maybe we could turn a dollar.

    “Where’s Waleed”

    Might make a book for junior Jihadis…

    Found on page 5 despite you giving me a wrong word reference ‘Waleed’ you gave ‘Waled Ali’

  49. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Tiny Dancer at 11:12 pm:

    “Doubt that the members of Wentworth Chambers went to visit clients in prison. She’s full of shit. International law consultants do not switch over to a criminal practice. Does. Not. Happen.”

    Quite so – these dills spend every working day walking no more than two city blocks to attend court.

    The few normal human and intelligent ones might walk a little further down the hill now and then for lunch at The Rugby Club.

    Their customers come to their shop to sit in big uncomfortable chairs surrounded by dusty piles of paper, cobwebbed books and carbolic smoke balls. Instructing solicitors attend their shop too, and act all obsequious around them – it’s the done thing.

    They don’t get out much. Consequently they have not a clue about fixing leaky tap washers or changing the plugs and points. They ask the most unusual questions about getting a tradesman in to build a new tennis court at home in Mosman, like “What do I do to get a tradesman in …”

    They become quite astonished if a client says “Hang on, back up a bit, you’ve missed the point” and when the explicit instruction is that no correspondence or submission is to be sent out without prior agreement from the client. Such common behaviour by their client, in learned counsel’s chambers! sends most instructing solicitors apoplectic. Over the years they get used to it.

    When one finds the couple of good ones who know their stuff in relation to one’s needs one uses them exclusively for decades and pays them well for it.

  50. MartinG

    Mick Gold Coast QLD
    #1426535, posted on August 23, 2014 at 12:07 am

    From Tiny Dancer at 11:12 pm:

    I’m on the war path. :-) Why not correctly reference the message?

    Tiny Dancer
    #1426503, posted on August 22, 2014 at 11:12 pm

    No need for bold but I’m trying to get people to make following threads easier.

  51. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Pleased to see I’m almost there MartinG! :)

  52. Gab

    I’m on the war path. :-) Why not correctly reference the message?

    The message was referenced appropriately in the first place and who died and made you in charge of how people reference things here? Hmmm?

  53. MartinG

    Gab
    #1426558, posted on August 23, 2014 at 12:34 am

    I’m on the war path. :-) Why not correctly reference the message?

    The message was referenced appropriately in the first place and who died and made you in charge of how people reference things here? Hmmm?

    Nooo Gab, This message I’m sending you is appropriately correctly referenced yours is not.
    It’s called etiquette but it also has a deeper functionality.

    It allows the reader to know who when and where, words being quoted originated. Did you not bother to read the exchange between me and Token ? If not let me save you the effort searching for it. Don’t forget to copy the reference number ‘#1426558′. I would be beside my self with worry if you should get lost out there.

    here

    You see Gab, you are typical of the ignorant pig wallowing in your own stupidity. In doing so you make life difficult for those who lurk. You have formed a comfortable clique and for you it’s a private club where those in the know hold a conversation with a wink and a knowing nod. I find not much you say is worth referencing back to it’s source because I have to wade through your tiresome clique members.

    This isn’t your private club and if I want to hold a conversation with anyone about anything, I wont be asking your permission any time soon.

    Now let’s see if you can reply to this message using the correct references at the top of the message. I know you can do it Gab because deep down your probably an intelligent person.

  54. MartinG

    Mick Gold Coast QLD
    #1426554, posted on August 23, 2014 at 12:28 am

    Pleased to see I’m almost there MartinG! :)

    Your doing just fine but what happened here? No name and no reference number?

    We must never let our standards laps Mick, lest others be drawn toward Satans format style. 8-)

  55. MartinG

    Only one person formatted correctly on this page. Well done Makka.

  56. Combine Dave

    MartinG
    #1426597, posted on August 23, 2014 at 2:01 am

    Gab, never give up, never surrender!

  57. srr

    Oh look, while you obeyed Dot, Token and Co’s orders, and turned your backs on Ukrainians, the Ukraine ceased to exist.

    Ukraine is now only another, Once Sovereign State, that’s been invaded by and enslaved to the Fascist Dictatorship that is The EU -

    http://armenpress.am/eng/news/773556/ukrainian-parliament-to-ratify-association-agreement-with-eu-in-september.html

    But it’s all cool, just keep also ignoring that the EU & UN infected England, Europe, America, Australia et al, with all those bloody murderous Muslims and Their Laws Denying Us The Right and Duty to defend ourselves against them, and you won’t have face the fact that they also infected Yugoslavia and Ukraine with Muslim Thug Overlords to.

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