Does Gottliebsen know something?

Can Joe Hockey survive?

While by no means impossible, it is going to be hard for Hockey to stage a comeback.

If he doesn’t, I would reshuffle the Hockey-Robb-Cormann trio, giving Hockey trade and making either Robb or Cormann treasurer, and making the the other the finance minister.

I like both Andrew Robb and Mathias Cormann.

Cormann’s problem is that he is a Senator and money bills must originate in the House, so it’s probably not appropriate that the Treasurer be a Senator (although it isn’t against the rules).

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57 Responses to Does Gottliebsen know something?

  1. Rabz

    Deckchairs, meet the Titanic.

  2. David

    It is difficult to take Hockey seriously now that he has done so many backflips.

    Robb is my local member and a genuine person who would probably make a better job of treasurer. Having said that Joe hasn’t set the bar too high. The coalition need to do something to get fiscal credibility back.

  3. Pyrmonter

    Rob Lucas was Treasurer in SA from the LegCo – it can be done.

  4. Craig Mc

    This is up there with Sinc’s Bring-Back-Malcolm effort just after Rudd was re-inserted into the ALP leadership’s rectum.

  5. Adrian

    I doubt hockey will be dumped before the next election. if the coalition is returned then certainly it will be bye byes to hockey.

  6. Sinclair Davidson

    Sinc’s Bring-Back-Malcolm effort

    I think you’re confusing me with Samuel J.

  7. hammy

    Cormann was caught red-handed smoking a cigar. That alone is sufficient to prevent his promotion.

  8. David

    Cormann was caught red-handed smoking a cigar

    I agree Hammy. Without a good Cognac in the other hand the man is an obvious cretin.

    :-)

  9. John Comnenus

    Once again Hammy cuts to the heart of the issue only to draw the wrong conclusion. Normally, in my book, being caught red handed smoking a cigar is cause for a promotion. Alas, in this case Hammy is right. Hockey has to go – he is the John Kerin of this government.

  10. feelthebern

    Tony aint going to sack Joe.
    And Joe aint going to step down.
    Aint going to happen.
    Next.

  11. candy

    It appears he got Warren Truss mixed up with Julia Bishop saying she was deputy leader, so you wonder how much this Gottliebsen fellow knows.

  12. Talleyrand

    Cigars? I’m sure they were opium pipes..

    Might explain the indolence of the current federal government.

  13. Gab

    Bishop is deputy leader. Truss is Deputy PM.

  14. candy

    The comments said he got it mixed up. I can’t read the article, Gab but it seems he thought Julie Bishop was the deputy as in deputy to Tony Abbott.

  15. Tom

    hammy
    #1429056, posted on August 25, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    Marvellous, thank you, Hammy. It’s all about the seeming, isn’t it? Cormann seems like a cigar-chomping fat cat. So he must be executed for the seeming.

    Hope all’s well at the No.2 Tractor Factory Shop Floor Committee.

  16. Gab

    Bishop is Abbott’s deputy leader of the Liberal party to Abbott being the leader of the Liberal Party while Truss is Abbott’s Deputy PM to Abbott as PM. Easy to mix these things up.

  17. Ant

    It’s a sign of how immature – or childish – our political culture is that the commentators now fitting Joe Hockey up for a good shafting were completely silent when we had the spectacularly useless dropkick Wayne Swan turning budget after budget into complete brothels.

  18. Alfonso

    No sympathy for Joe from the base, too much time spent validating Rudd on breakfast tv.
    He thought we’d forget.

  19. Major Elvis Newton

    That’s an appallingly shallow talent bank if that is the best we have on the government front bench?

    Robb was a front runner until he caught the black dog. His elevation to Treasurer would spark an ALP whispers campaign that could send him to Windowlickers College.

    If were’e going to shuffle deckchairs, I’d put Barnaby Joyce or Christopher Pyne up befroe anyone else.

    Just imagine how pissed off the luvvies would be.

  20. michaelfstanley

    It’s almost as if the Coalition combined easy populism, supplication to the corporate sector and winking at the far right to get elected and now (predictably) have no ability to reconcile the three in government.

  21. Gab

    the spectacularly useless dropkick Wayne Swan turning budget after budget into complete brothels.

    That’s untrue. Brothels are usually successful and post a surplus most years. The point being, Swan couldn’t even run a brothel successfully.

  22. Leo G

    The main problem with Joe’s proposed stage comeback is that he isn’t funny enough. He’s just sauce for the goose, without the goose.
    Remember that Euromoney Magazine thought that Wayne Swan’s 11-day stint as Finance Minister was so memorably laughable that it named him Finance Minister of the Year for 2011. The editor still becomes hysterical whenever he is reminded that the Honourable was allowed to bring down 6 Australian budgets.
    Perhaps Joe Hockey would have a better chance at another budget if he had only been caught out doing something more outrageous with that cigar.

  23. goatjam

    The thing is that Hockey is not particularly worse than almost anyone in the LNP cabinet. Tony Abbott is as out of his depth as Hockey is. Same for Brandis.

    If you seriously wanted a re-shuffle then the first thing you would need to do is shuffle them all (right out the door)

  24. H B Bear

    Hockey is ideally suited to breakfast television.

  25. H B Bear

    The thing is that Hockey is not particularly worse than almost anyone in the LNP cabinet.

    Agreed. If this lot hadn’t followed the worst Australian government since Federation they would look even worse.

  26. stackja

    Why is Swan who created the mess not held to more account?

  27. Alfonso

    Memo Tone: any reshuffle must include Hunt to the backbench. He’s a true CAGWarming believer and abater…..an embarrassing comrade in the wrong party, like Malcolm..

  28. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Brothels are usually successful and post a surplus most years.

    O/T, but some years ago, here in the Wild West, one of the more successful brothel madams ran for local Government – I think, in fact, it was mayor of Kalgoorlie. She didn’t get elected, but you can imagine the jokes, about, finally, someone in Local Government, who COULD run a brothel..

  29. michaelfstanley

    Why is Swan who created the mess not held to more account?

    :)

  30. Ubique

    Don’t be too hard on Joe. He’s not very bright, is superficial and wants to be liked, all qualities ill-suited for being Treasurer. Assistant Minister for dog-catching would be more his forte.

    Julie Bishop would make a great Treasurer if she wasn’t doing such a fantastic job as Foreign Minister.

  31. H B Bear

    Julie Bishop would make a great Treasurer if she wasn’t doing such a fantastic job as Foreign Minister.

    Bishop was hopeless as Shadow Treasurer.

  32. I am the Walrus, Koo Koo K'choo

    Trade??

    Why inflict this useless, lazy, self-aggrandising dill on our trading partners??

    Shift him out of cabinet to Sport. He can spend all the time he likes bumbling around on telly in that portfolio with zero negative consequences for anything.

  33. Steve of Glasshouse

    A cigar red handed ? Only an ALP numbnut would hold the stogey backwards

  34. DrBeauGan

    That was brilliant, Hammy. And there was me thinking you were for real.

  35. Vicki

    Wash my mouth out – but Malcolm could probably sell what the government is trying to achieve. He still has a lot of cred – IF he stayed within party room agreements.

    But, of course, he probably wouldn’t – and that’s the problem with Malcolm. He is entirely untrustworthy. Pity, because he could just pull it off.

  36. David

    The point being, Swan couldn’t even run a brothel successfully.

    That’s true but consider several of his ALP mates helped make them profitable – with other people’s money of course.

  37. Myrddin Seren

    Does Gottliebsen know something?

    Jeebus – it would just about be a first for what I still refer to mockingly as ‘Business Crikey’ !

    Here ( if you can slide past the paywall ) is one of his breathless Insider insights on an area close to my heart:

    The Australian business community at the ADC Hayman Leadership Retreat received a deep shock from China.

    hobnobbing on Hayman…and the deep shock ? Something to do with Clive Palmer ??

    Nope:

    It was announced that by 2020, all of Beijing’s electrical power will no longer be generated by coal.

    Well yippee – a major national capital city moves out coal-fired base load power generation – just like pretty much every other major capital city.

    Which Whisperin’ Rob then extrapolates to:

    That would signal the gradual elimination of China’s coal power generation over the next two decades.
    Beijing would get its new power from gas, particularly gas from Russia.

    Suffering catfish – Beijing is not China. Which presently consumes something like 3.5 billion tonnes per annum of thermal coal ( I am not counting coal for steel making, which is not directly replaceable ).

    As if Russia and a couple of others could possibly provide enough gas to justify the transformation of the entire Chinese power generation fleet !!

    If Whisperin’ Rob was dozing after lunch and didn’t quite understand what he was hearing – he should have checked with someone, because plainly this extrapolation does not pass the sniff test.

    Hence I am highly sceptical that he, or much of anyone at Business Crikey, have an inside run on anything.

  38. Squirrel

    Absent very compelling personal circumstances (serious health/family problems etc.) it would be madness to remove Hockey as Treasurer before the next election – to do so would cement the view that the Government is falling apart at a rate of knots. The sales job (not just by Hockey) has been less than brilliant, but I wonder how much of it was truly his Budget, and just how many compromises and soft options were imposed by the PM/ERC/Cabinet?

    Whatever the Senate outcome of the stalled Budget measures, there are a number of other opportunities – Murray, Tax Review, Federalism – for the Government and its Treasurer to regain the policy initiative.

  39. hammy

    The thing is that Hockey is not particularly worse than almost anyone in the LNP cabinet. Tony Abbott is as out of his depth as Hockey is. Same for Brandis.

    It’s really great to see that most commenters on this blog have come round to my way of thinking on Australian politics. My persistence has paid off.

    They really are hopeless, aren’t they? The sooner a double dissolution is forced the better. Bill Shorton and his crew would be far superior in all respects.

  40. Alfonso

    Alas, the Hero of Beaconsfield has the look of beta male clerk, the eyes have it.
    People notice the body language…..’wiv’ for ‘with’ has apparently escaped the speech therapy classes.
    He looks promoted above his self belief.

  41. entropy

    Hockey has to go – he is the John Kerin of this government.

    Not justifiable John.

    John Kerin actually understood economics and a nice bloke to boot. He even knows how to hypnotise a chook. That’s at least two things he had over Hockey, maybe even three.

    You must remember that the media pack at the time were aligned with the new backbencher PJ Keating and were not about to give the former ag minister any slack at all.

  42. candy

    At least Hammy is admitting the opposition parties Green/Labor/Pup are trying force a double dissolution and that’s their aim, and are not concerned about policy and the massive debt and national security.

    I always thought from the first week of Parliament after the election that that was the goal, to block all the legislation and try and enforce a DD. I think I’m right on that.

  43. olddavey

    Major Elvis Newton commented:

    If were’e going to shuffle deckchairs, I’d put Barnaby Joyce or Christopher Pyne up befroe anyone else.

    Just imagine how pissed off the luvvies would be.

    The luvvies wouldn’t be pissed off, they’d be pissing themselves laughing.
    An incompetence upgrade of the first magnitude.
    Please make it happen.

  44. entropy

    For the prize, in answer to your question:

    Does Gottliebsen know something?

    The answer is probably ‘no’.

  45. Roger

    Major Elvis Newton
    #1429085, posted on August 25, 2014 at 4:40 pm
    Robb was a front runner until he caught the black dog.
    Andrew has long since kicked the black dog. He’d make an excellent Treasurer. Unlike Hockey, he can prosecute a case.
    His elevation to Treasurer would spark an ALP whispers campaign that could send him to Windowlickers College.
    As if Labor don’t have enough skeletons in their own closet to be worried about.

  46. .

    His elevation to Treasurer would spark an ALP whispers campaign that could send him to Windowlickers College.

    No. I know a few of these folk. They would show a lot of front but the reality is, they hate him because he has a low spending agenda that makes these parasitic grubs shit themselves.

  47. Leigh Lowe

    Does Robert Gottliebsen know something?

    It’s a trick question, right?

  48. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    The idea of Gottliebsen knowing something is highly entertaining, you know.

  49. Eyrie

    Robb and the Black Dog is interesting. He got it just in time to avoid having to sell Malcolm Turnbull’s ETS.
    That prospect would make anyone depressed.

  50. Leigh Lowe

    The idea of Gottliebsen knowing something is highly entertaining, you know.

    Yes.
    Yes it is entertaining.
    I mean, it is possible, of course, that whispering Rob does know something.
    But what could it possibly be?
    Tantalising.

  51. Boambee John

    “Cormann was caught red-handed smoking a cigar. That alone is sufficient to prevent his promotion.”

    Not so sure Hammy, cigar smoking seemed to work for Bob Hawke!

  52. Cheryl

    Candy. You are of course right. Labor do not have anything else to offer except more spending to their supporters. Who cares about the debt right!

  53. outsider

    ‘I wonder how much of it was truly his Budget’. I suspect 75% Abbott, 25% Joe, who is more self-aggrandising front man than architect. He could be the fall guy.

    I despise these sellouts, you know what to expect from the leftists and at least they are true to a cause – even if it is economic destruction. These deadshits are simply a place holder in our political history. They started slow and got worse. Jeezer’s nose, their own budget took them by surprise.

  54. Roger

    Eyrie
    #1429362, posted on August 25, 2014 at 9:09 pm
    Robb and the Black Dog is interesting. He got it just in time to avoid having to sell Malcolm Turnbull’s ETS.

    Au contraire, it was afflicted upon him in his youth and was finally overcome in late middle age. I dare say many in the electorate can relate to that or would at least be sympathetic.

  55. Grigory M

    Maybe Gottleibson does know something. Poor Fat Joe seemed under a bit of pressure in today’s Question Time – avoided the first question with a very subdued and short response, then got all shouty later. Maybe a move should be arranged soon for this obvious under-performer. What’s the most junior Ministry? Perhaps a new role could be created to match his “talents” – say, Assistant Secretary to the Minister for Human Services. He could be a Minister-in-Training – learning about the driving habits of impoverished voters – or maybe, how many teeth they have. The sooner it happens, the better.

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