The baby and the bathwater, please

download (17)There is the deliberate leak today in the Tele that Tony’s fair-dinkum paid parental leave scheme is about to be junked.  I could have told you this months and months ago: the government had simply not done the necessary groundwork (eg. negotiate with the states to fold their schemes into the new national one).

Why Abbott allowed the fiction of this souped-up PPL still being implemented is anyone’s guess.  The damage being done to the Coalition brand was immense and made selling budget savings nigh impossible.

But now it seems that the government intends to redirect the ‘savings’ (what? from a policy that hasn’t been implemented and for which there was never a specific Budget allocation) to childcare.  So shovelling more taxpayer money out the door for no real outcome.

But wait there’s more: it seems that the government intends to retain the 1.5 per cent levy  on big companies, a levy which does not attract franking credits.  Are they kidding?

There was some sort of narrative about the levy to pay for the PPL – big companies would be able to withdraw from their own private PPLs and so the cost of the levy would not be as large as it initially appears.  (I’m not saying I buy this, but at least there was a story.)

Now we are making these companies – actually the shareholders and customers – pay the government’s childcare grocery bill.  Oh, please.

And wait there’s more: lots of parents can access subsidised childcare without having to work or undertake some related activity.

Gosh, that makes sense – big companies really want to fund the social programs of governments.  (And for the few companies that contribute to the childcare costs of their workers, do you think they will reduce their contributions because of the levy?  The answer is a bit fat NO.)

I guess the desperate government will talk about fairness – the Labor Party will never rescind this levy, ever – but actually it is mum and dad shareholders and superannuants that will bear the cost of this stupid policy.  Is that fair, let alone effiicient?

If you are getting rid of the baby (fair-dinkum PPL), tip out the bathwater (big company levy) too.

And here’s some complete guff from Joe (including a hint about the levy being retained):

The Treasurer said yesterday the “families package’’ was good for the economy because it ­encouraged women into the workforce.

“It’s actually good for Australia’s economy, good for jobs, to have more women choosing to work, but we’ve got to make that environment flexible and part of that is to have a families package that provides flexibility,” Mr Hockey said in western Sydney.

“The second thing is, and it’s hugely important, we’ve got to be able to fund whatever families package we have.”

Spare us, please: we have elected a big spending/big taxing and incompetent government like Labor was before.

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43 Responses to The baby and the bathwater, please

  1. Entropy

    The Federal LNP wont listen to you, Judith. They are big government ninnies that are too stupid to realise they are doing the fabian’s work for them.

  2. Mike of Marion

    You just have to shake your head and wonder what number of fools are involved in carrying this Abbott dream. Certainly he is but who else is so gutless that they can’t tell him it’s utter madness from day one.

  3. H B Bear

    C’mon Judith, taxpayer funded childcare for non-working mothers who “need a break from the kids”. Sure why not?

  4. Infidel Tiger

    They deserve to be turfed.

    We are in dire straits.

  5. 3d1k

    This government has a tendency to be too ‘cute’ with policy – trade offs that are in fact mistakes (GP copayment going to a medical research fund, high income tax levy in order to appear ‘fair’, cutting the carbon tax keeping the spend). I don’t know who makes these decisions (does anyone here), but they need to be removed from the policy process.

  6. Michel Lasouris

    And where IS Australia’s Margaret Thatcher?

  7. A Lurker

    Isn’t Margie Abbott the Director of a community childcare centre – supposedly not-for-profit, however I see this idea originating from pillow talk at home.

  8. candy

    It might actually be quite popular policy given we hear about the problems of locating and affording childcare all the time.
    Wait to hear the details but it could that Labor will be afraid the government is on winner with this. It could be. To obstruct it in Senate will be problematic for them, if it is policy parents like …

    Should we be concerned about the 1.5% levy – big business has hardly been supportive of the Abbott government anyway.

  9. bandit

    the people demand goodies, thats all you have to know.

    does not matter who you vote for anymore, its just the degree of madness that changes.

  10. bandit

    Should we be concerned about the 1.5% levy – big business has hardly been supportive of the Abbott government anyway.

    yes Candy, you should be, because today its big business, tomm….

  11. You…

    …have elected a big spending/big taxing and incompetent government like Labor was before.

    Not if you voted LDP

    Cut spending, lower taxes.

    problems of locating and affording childcare

    Children are a benefit, if not for you then keep your legs crossed.

  12. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    And where IS Australia’s Margaret Thatcher?

    *waves*

  13. Snoopy

    Joe is crazy if he increases company tax. Australians don’t care about debt. Just put it on tick.

  14. Snoopy

    We are in dire straits.

    Without any decent guitar riffs.

  15. Ellen of Tasmania

    “It’s actually good for Australia’s economy, good for jobs, to have more women choosing to work,

    Absolute rubbish.

    Wasn’t forcing women into the workforce one of Marx’s dreams? Now our very own LINO’s are creating policies that make it harder for families to do well on a single income. Shame on them.

  16. It used to seem that Gillard was part of a conservative conspiracy to destroy a socialist party.
    Now it seems Abbott is part of a socialist conspiracy to destroy a conservative party.

  17. Wasn’t forcing women into the workforce one of Marx’s dreams?

    Correct, Ellen.
    It’s about time we woke up to the fact that the Left have infiltrated every institution in Australia including the Right. Fabianism has done its job and the electorate have sold their collective souls for bright, shiny baubles.

  18. J.H.

    The Liberal Government shouldn’t be retiring Labor debt…….. The Libs should be cutting taxes, repealing regulation and just let Labor explain themselves to the electorate when they try to raise them again…. Let Labor cut spending or send government broke.

    The Libs shouldn’t be playing “Bad Cop” to Labor’s “Good Cop” routine for creating bigger and bigger Government.

  19. Combine Dave

    As individuals what can we do to make a difference?

    Or rather how can we safe guard our assets and escape from thr upcoming and ongoing lefty reamings of those that have on behalf of the big unions?

  20. Andrew

    Taxpayer funded childcare is one of the biggest rorts in government spending. Want to have a child? How about paying it for yourself?

  21. john constantine

    Cut the crap sin taxes the swampfilth gloated over.

    Make the soggy-bottomed aardvark re-introduce each little better-than-you sin tax .

    Tories don’t imprison your freedoms, the morals police of the swampfilth do.

    Live your free life in tory Australia, or endure having your sinful existence taxed into drabness by the morals police of shorten.

  22. Yon Toad

    With bated breath I await the announcement that we’re going to see the real Tony.

  23. Alex

    I hear Monaco has no income tax, all you have to do is reside there for 10 years and renounce foreign nationality.

  24. Andrew

    In other news, Scott Morrison has dumped Kevin Andrews loopy marriage counselling voucher scheme.

  25. Combine Dave

    Taxpayer funded childcare is one of the biggest rorts in government spending. Want to have a child? How about paying it for yourself?

    How about you reduce the burden on families so we can?

  26. Louis Hissink

    Unless our two Rhodes Scholars in the Libs are there to destroy the LNP from inside? I always thought Rhodes scholarships went to lefties.

  27. Andrew

    How about you reduce the burden on families so we can?

    I agree, but that doesn’t mean spending and subsidies shouldn’t be cut.

  28. MartinG

    candy
    #1587709, posted on February 1, 2015 at 12:13 pm

    Should we be concerned about the 1.5% levy – big business has hardly been supportive of the Abbott government anyway.

    Candy, that’s an appallingly bad economics. Business, be they large or small, are not there to do government favours by being supportive of bad policy.

    In the capitalist world they are there to maximize profit. It’s the governments job to see they act within the law and operate in a competitive environment. It’s also not the job of governments to support private industry, it’s a dog eat dog world.

    This approach leads to innovation, price competition and better outcomes for consumers.

    Discriminatory taxation is bad on so many fronts, I’m not going to list them here.

    I suspect you know all this and posted your message out of anger.

  29. Judith Sloan

    I’m told that Swan didn’t reduce the rate of company tax because he was cross about the way in which the mining tax was not embraced by non-resource companies. He decided to introduce ths SchoolKids bonus instead. Good policy???

  30. Alain

    The original Soviet communist vision was to have all children raised by the government in government centres and to make parents irrelevant.

    We should be encouraging stay-at-home parenting. Without parents at home and feeble AEU teachers at school, the next generation of children are a generation of stupid ferals.

    The Asian/Indian/Jewish kids who top the schooling system usually have a parent to look after them. It’s mostly white kids who get dumped in childcare facilities, or as Fred Nile aptly called them – “day orphanages”

  31. ar

    I always thought Rhodes scholarships went to lefties.

    It’s pretty hard to tell at that age…

  32. Combine Dave

    How about you reduce the burden on families so we can?

    I agree, but that doesn’t mean spending and subsidies shouldn’t be cut.

    Sure, but cutting the tax paying classes welfare churn while continuing to tax them into the poor house is shitful.

  33. MartinG

    Judith Sloan
    #1587790, posted on February 1, 2015 at 2:00 pm

    I’m told that Swan didn’t reduce the rate of company tax because he was cross about the way in which the mining tax was not embraced by non-resource companies. He decided to introduce ths SchoolKids bonus instead. Good policy???

    The school kids bonus was only supposed to be payed out to those who could show they payed for things the child needed for school.

    I sure it was Gillard that made it payable without any need to show what it was spent on. The result was the cost blew out and for some it was spent on beer and fags.

    Those on welfare who blew the money just rocked up to the welfare agency(?) at school time with some sob story and got some kind of hand out. I have no proof of this last statement but instinct tells me it would be so.

  34. Botswana O'Hooligan

    There is got to be something wrong with the airconditioning system in the Libs parliamentary offices or Mr Hockey’s cigar smoke has some mind expanding qualities for he and Mr Abbot seem to be off the planet in a galaxy far, far, away. Most of us never went for the mad Monk bit but now this old bloke wonders about that moniker.

  35. Lem

    Abbott is gone with this comment outside the coptic church (seems appropriate since we are headed in the direction of Greece):

    TONY Abbott says he is determined not to become “another weak government” and said he feels for former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman in the wake of the disastrous Queensland election result.

    “I am determined to ensure that Australia does not join the weak government club of the world,” he said this morning while visiting a Coptic Church in Sydney.

    “I am determined to ensure that Australia has a government that does what is necessary to build a strong and prosperous economy for a safe and secure Australia.”

    Campbell Newman’s first-term government in Queensland appears to have been swept from power, with Labor likely to enter office with either a slim majority or a hung parliament.

    Mr Newman has lost his seat of Ashgrove and declared his political career over.

    Mr Abbott spoke as a Galaxy poll, published in News Corp Australia newspapers, showed the federal Coalition trailing Labor 57 to 43 per cent on a two-party preferred basis. A uniform swing of that magnitude would see dozens of Coalition MPs lose their seats.

    Mr Abbott’s own personal approval rating in the Galaxy Poll sits at just 27 per cent compared to Bill Shorten’s 44 per cent.

    Mr Abbott sad the knighthood for Prince Philip had nothing to do with the result in Queensland.

    “Well, it was a distraction for a couple of days, I accept that and I very much regret that, but in the end, the voters of Australia are pretty smart,” he said.

    “They judge state elections on state issues and they judge federal elections on federal issues, and as I say, Campbell was a good Premier who ran a good government, but there are obviously lessons in the election result last night and we’re determined to learn them in Canberra.”

    Mr Abbott said comments by his own backbencher Jane Prentice that his leadership must be up for discussion were not troubling.

    “Well, obviously people are able to raise whatever subject they want with me and that’s exactly what they do every day,” he said.

    From The Oz. No let up for the phones, then, if this is his attitude. Liberal MPs can expect full inboxes from irate supporters tomorrow.

  36. Old School Conservative

    Mr Abbott said comments by his own backbencher Jane Prentice that his leadership must be up for discussion were not troubling.
    So long Mr Nice Guy. Where was the stinging public rebuke to Prentice for giving aid and succour to the enemy? What about a humorous put-down of a backbencher who agitated against the leadership? Why not rip into the media circus?
    But no – Tony is “not troubled”. Soon he will be not leading.

  37. Walter Plinge

    In other news, Scott Morrison has dumped Kevin Andrews loopy marriage counselling voucher scheme.

    That’s timely. I chucked my supply of 100 unused and unwanted brochures in the bin earlier in the week. Another useless and costly Liberal brainfart disappears in thin air.

  38. Sean

    Ha ha. The ‘real’ tony would be brilliant.

    Unfortunately we have seen the real tony. He sucked in all the economic dries by promising to cut spending, we even put up with his quack like nature. Sucked in the libertarians by promising to fight for free speech and then shat on us.

    Now he has lied to his base and his enemies and its a complete mess.

  39. Yohan

    And wait there’s more: lots of parents can access subsidised childcare without having to work or undertake some related activity.

    Is this for real? I would say I’m flabbergasted but nothing this government does can surprise us anymore.

  40. john constantine

    P for Prentice.

    The swampfilth of the abc had to go down the phone directory a long way before they found some backbencher so flattered to be greased by the abc that they fell for the soundbite gotcha those socialist taxleech fuckers were fishing for.

  41. Lem

    P for Prentice.

    So I take it your an Abbott man. Voted him in for life, die for him in the trenches would you?

    Perhaps Jane Prentice has been listening to her electorate and doing what she is supposed to do, represent them, and express their concerns.

    Jane Prentice holds what has been for a very long time a very safe liberal seat. For her to say anything suggests she has received a lot of negative feedback. Any leader who ignores her and any Liberal partisan who does not take notice, does so at their peril, remembering that 2016 is next year.

  42. Bean Counter

    Once again; it’s time that well-educated, well-paid middle-management women were encouraged to start having more kids. I know the Cats prefer ten (Muslim?) kids per dole-bludger-household instead of 2-3 kids per productive household, but that’s not what I prefer.

    Public Servants get very very generoous PPL so’s they can breed future ALP/Green voters. Centrelinkers get all manner of inducements to breed future ALP/Greens voters, but some reason Cats just hate the idea that the people paying taxes (so’s these two groups can produce leftist voters) should get some of their taxes back to not produce ALP/Green voters. Huh?

    OK, so a sheila on $150,000 (the originally suggested top PPL threshhold) would pay about $44000 pa in income tax, and when she has a kid would get about $75,000 in PPL if she was off work the whole six months. If she then returned to work she would “repay” about $22,000 over the rest of the financial year in income tax. Thus, a PPL of about nett $53,000. At $44,000 pa income tax, this $53,000 would be “repaid” in around 14 months. After that it’s back to the paying $44,000 pa income tax pa.

    Compared to the Public Servant who does nothing but devour my taxes, this $44,000pa looks good to me. Compared to the endless Centrelink boondoggles, this $44,000pa looks good to me. But not to most Cats, who apparently detest the possibility that women who make it to middle-management in private industry will maybe produce far fewer Public Servants and Centrelink leeches as offspring.

    Which then takes us to the Cat demographic, and why this support for bludgers is so deeply entrenched.

    Hmmm. A discussiobn for another day, I suppose.

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