The yakka skink and ornamental snake

There is this story on the front page of The Australian this morning whose headline reads: End green sabotage of coal, says Tony Abbott. Here is the key para about the decision in the Federal Court:

It is understood the refusal to allow the mine relates to Mr Hunt’s failure to take into account departmental advice given about the Queensland species of the yakka skink and ornamental snake.

On the other hand, balanced against the rights of the snake and the skink was this:

“This is a vitally important project for the economic development of Queensland and it’s absolutely critical for the human welfare literally of tens of millions of people in India.”

An exasperated Mr Abbott said the federal government ­approval for Indian company Adani to develop the $16 billion coalmine in central Queensland, which was overturned by the Federal Court on Wednesday, was a vital project.

He said if Australia did not allow such developments, “we have a problem as a nation”.

“Lets face it: this is a $21bn ­investment of which some billion dollars has already been spent,” Mr Abbott said.

“It will create about 10,000 well-paid jobs in Australia. And if it goes ahead, it will provide for decades to come for 100 million people in India who currently have no power.”

Letmesee. The rights of the skink versus the welfare of 100 million people in India. That’s a toughie, I guess. Thank goodness for the Federal Court.

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85 Responses to The yakka skink and ornamental snake

  1. Sydney Boy

    What’s the bet that the yakka skink will never be found in an area in which wind mills are to be erected?

  2. .

    It is amazing that protected species only live where new mining, construction or energy projects occur.

  3. H B Bear

    Australia’s ability to indulge itself like this ran out about five or six years ago.

  4. Oh come on

    If a couple of inconsequential species must block the development of some mega-project that will provide for the livelihoods or welfare of millions, then let them have silly, mockable names like this pair does. On the morning news broke of the verdict, the ABC24 newsreader chick labelled the skink a ‘Yakka skank’.

  5. Sydney Boy

    It seem’s to me that the Yakka Skink and the Ornamental Snake are present in an area a little bit larger than the coal mine will occupy. Unless it is a really big mine.

    Yakka Skink

    Ornamental Snake

  6. stevem

    It’s not even as if the skink would be destroyed. The problem is that amongst the hundreds of submissions on impacts on species in the area the skink and snake were not specifically addressed. It is more than probable that the actions taken to address other species would also protect these two.

    What is currently occurring is that an extensive survey is done and the mining company addresses every species found in the survey. Once the work is completed it is made public and submitted to the authorities. The green groups then do an even greater survey until they find one or two species not mentioned in the EIS. If approval is given it all goes to court and the cycle repeats. So far it seems Adani has spent a billion dollars to fight a group hell bent on destroying industry in Australia. There has to be a line drawn at some point.

  7. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    To a member of the greenfilth, who are racists to the DNA, this is an absolute no brainer.

    Any racist greenfilther will tell you that ‘little brown people’ don’t even deserve to live – just ask Snake-Eyes heifer-Bong about her reaction to watching 150 ‘little brown people’ being drowned in a shipwreck at Christmas Island: “meh. Accidents happen.” was her comment.

    So the reaction of the racist greenfilthers to the ‘little brown people’ they hate having ELECTRICITY is going to be to stop it happening at all costs: why, there will be spittle flying a thousand yards as they screech their racist rage.

    Which is exactly what we are seeing.

    Racist greenfilthers just love hating on those ‘non-white untermensch’

  8. Baldrick

    The Watermark Shenwa coal mine will go the same way.

  9. Chris

    Well, Mk50 you have certainly unloaded on the silly w-, er, person.

    Bit its a spray of stinking identity-politics stereotypes. Your usual is intellectual steel on target, and I find that damn fine when you do it.

  10. Myrddin Seren

    Putting the inexorable strangulation of Australia by red-blue-green tape aside for a second, I am pretty sceptical about the Gallilee Basin as energy prices sink back towards long term trend.

    this is a $21bn ­investment

    it will provide for decades to come for 100 million people in India who currently have no power.

    There is a reason they don’t have power now, and part of that is they are poor farmers. ( There are other reasons ).

    Part of the problem is that Indian states give electricity away to farmers, and power theft is a big problem in urban areas, meaning revenue collection is a big problem and most Indian state electricity boards are technically broke.

    Now the assumption is that Mr Adani is so rich he can afford to develop a big – and presumably low operating cost – mine in Australia and make the money on rupee-based electricity sales in India, which are low and regulated and uncertain.

    Because I doubt the opcosts in the Galilee are so low you will recover your $21 bill investment.

    As an example, the nice people at Platts estimate the current delivered price for mid-range thermal coal in India is US$56.50/mt. Freight from Australia ? – depends on the port and vessel size, but let’s say US$10/mt ??

    You have to run a mine in Central Qld on Australian costs, rail huge volumes hundreds of kilometres to tidewater ports and ship to India in competition with Indonesia and recover your investment of $21 bill on revenues under US$50/mt FOBT ?

    I doubt this is going to happen, or anyone other than the Australian taxpayer will subsidise it to happen. The Indian government continues to try and develop their local coal and energy sources – which they may well fail on as usual, but it is all rupee trade and local jobs, so guess where Indian politicians will target their encouragement.

    However, the green activists infesting government at all levels – like the current Mrs Tony Bourke – will indeed continue to seek to frustrate anything and everything except windfarms and solar plants until we are sufficiently ruined and Venezuelan.

  11. Joe

    Take a leaf out of LBJ’s book.

    The PM should tell the project to go ahead. Then he should deploy the armed forces to allow it to go ahead and tell the federal court to enforce it’s decision without help from any federal department.
    Then he should stack the court with appointees who will do his bidding.

    At the end of the day, the court is just a ivory tower of powerlessness without the might of the government to back them up.

  12. Just interested

    Don’t knock the Federal Court for making the decision; knock the Parliament for passing stupid laws. The law required all environmental impacts to be considered. Because of a clerical error, the Minister didn’t and so the matter was remitted.

    That’s how it should work where there’s a rule of law. The real issue is ensuring that nutcase environmental legislation isn’t drawn in a way that saves skinks whilst causing everyone else to freeze in the dark.

  13. Craig Mc

    Do they ever look for these species away from proposed mines?

  14. Myrddin Seren

    Do they ever look for these species away from proposed mines?

    Smelters
    Refineries
    Dams
    Base load power stations
    Oil and gas wells

    Once they have crushed our natural advantages in minerals and metals, I expect the green activists to go after broad acre farmers with the same relish they claim to support those same farmers against mining exploration.

  15. blogstrop

    The Feral Court needs to be repopulated with less lefty beings.

  16. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I expect the green activists to go after broad acre farmers with the same relish

    With all due respect, Myrddin Seren, they have been for years. We were blamed for rising salt levels, excessive clearing of native vegetation, overuse of fertilizers and use of sprays for weed control in grain crops. Oh, and if you ran sheep, throw in earmarking and mulesing.

  17. The Greens were advertising that they were going to ruin Australian coal mining at the start of last year – and we are surprised they are now doing so?
    This is an act national economic sabotage, and deserves an apropriate reply.
    The Greens can only think themselves lucky they didn’t live in the USSR – such people were named ‘wreckers’ and were shot in their tens of thousands.

  18. Sydney Boy

    Do they ever look for these species away from proposed mines?

    Not in locations proposed for windmills or solar power stations.

  19. .

    That’s how it should work where there’s a rule of law. The real issue is ensuring that nutcase environmental legislation isn’t drawn in a way that saves skinks whilst causing everyone else to freeze in the dark.

    Bullshit.

    1. How can they tell a Minister how to do his job?

    2. Why didn’t they take the mischief approach in this ruling?

  20. Myrddin Seren

    Thanks ZK2A.

    They will be back with gusto once they have killed mining, secondary processing and base load power.

    Actually, once they kill base load power, everything else is gone anyway.

  21. stackja

    Well it was nice, we were caring for India by digging a big hole and to make Gautam Adani richer.

  22. cohenite

    Myrddin Serin:

    As an example, the nice people at Platts estimate the current delivered price for mid-range thermal coal in India is US$56.50/mt. Freight from Australia ? – depends on the port and vessel size, but let’s say US$10/mt ??

    I query that: coal mined, wholesale cost about 3c per KWH.

  23. Habib

    And will either the Federal or State governments repeal the legislation that enables such frivilous and vexatious appeals, or even end the funding of these dingbat organisations, let alone enable miners and others to go after said feral timewasters for the losses incurred by their fatuous feeding of their pathetic egos?

    Not on your nelly, there’ll be much railing against the unnecessary delay and waste of money, but they’re the bastards who let these windowlickers loose in the first place, and gave them money, lawyers and courts to tie up.

  24. cohenite

    The organisation behind this appeal is the EDO. It is fucking astounding how in this country, and the West generally, so much of alarmism is funded by the taxpayer.

  25. Boyfromtottenham

    I noticed that the PM used the word “sabotage ” in relation to this matter. He usually chooses his words carefully, so maybe things will get interesting from here. I wonder when he will start using the word “treason” in reference to these saboteurs?

  26. Adam

    Once they have crushed our natural advantages in minerals and metals, I expect the green activists to go after broad acre farmers with the same relish they claim to support those same farmers against mining exploration.

    I work in offshore oil and gas. Was speaking to a project manager yesterday who regularly travels to a Northern port on a river in China. he said that it’s one long hub of building FPSOs, oil rigs, super tankers, you name it. He said that he flew up the river on a chopper and the naval ship yards just went on and on and on. It reminded me of the industrial capacity of the USA during WWII, and how Japan was doomed from the start because of the USA’s industrial base. China is now the industrial base, and with every win from the lefty-greenie filth we slip further and further behind.

  27. cohenite

    Adam

    #1759777, posted on August 7, 2015 at 11:56 am

    Correct. And the main reason is the alarmists dominate the media in the West. Tell your bosses to get off their arses and invest some money in selling their industry or the green hordes will electorally fuck them.

  28. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Thanks ZK2A.

    They will be back with gusto once they have killed mining, secondary processing and base load power.

    My pleasure. It’s when the Greenies stated banging on about my “social license to farm” I decided every single one of them, with all their revolting brats, could starve.

  29. gabrianga

    Planned development halted in Lismore to provide protection for

    “the habitat for threatened fauna, such as koalas, the Rose-crowned Fruit-dove, and threatened micro bat species, as well as sites containing the rare native plant species, Thorny Pea and Hairy Joint grass.”>

    WTF!

    About time Abbott and Co. took the axe/razor to the EDO and other so called environmental groups who’s sole aim is to destroy Australia’s resources and development sectors.

  30. Gerard

    A coal mine cannot endanger skinks and snakes, but it is OK for windmills to chop up thousands of birds and bats.

  31. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Chris, it’s important to point out the actual racism behind the greens, and it’s even more important to attck them at every turn using their own tactics.

    They work, they are devastatingly effective, and they are almost comically confused when you do so. I have had this conversation with a green, quite proud of its activism against Adani. I told it that it had just proven itself (in public) a racist who wanted poor Indians to stay poor and die young. it instantly tried to change the subject to ‘protectin’ da reef‘, at which I thanked it for not even bothering to deny that it was a screaming racist who wanted poor Indians to stay poor and die young, and praised it for at least being honest about its racism and desire to ‘kill lots of little brown people, just like your support of people smuggling did’. I kept the focus in its racism despite all its wriggling and caterwauling, until it had to walk away.

    Every effort to change the subject was met with ‘you are still not denying your racism, and like any proud white racist you are just trying to change the subject’.

    It’s brutal, and effective.

    They are utterly impervious to reason, facts and logic, like all barking-mad religious fanatics and political true-believer ideologues.

    You maintain your own moral standards by using their own tactics only against them, and never against anyone else.

  32. David

    On a related theme, Tim Costello was banging on in a speech today to the FEAL conference about the need to change the law around superannuation funds so they catch up with society. By which he means inner city leftist elite society living no further out than Bernard Salt’s goat cheese curtain, of course. This is the quote:

    “He called for amendments to corporate law, particularly fiduciary responsibility and the sole purpose test, to catch up with society in releasing profits at the expense of the wider public good was unacceptable.”

    Looks like our Tim believes it is not appropriate for profits to go to those who stump up the investment, do the hard yards and earn it. How come some of younger brother’s Peter’s sense wasn’t instilled in Tim?

  33. Uber

    It’s about to get worse in NSW under a Liberal govt no less. Assessments of development applications for major projects will no longer be allowed to assess the economic benefits of the development, and will only be allowed to assess the impact on the locality.

    So they won’t be development assessments at all, just assessments. There will soon be no such thing as a ‘development application’ in the state, just an ‘application’ that will always be denied.

    NSW has a very bleak future. It looks increasingly unlikely that the Mt Thorley and Drayton South expansions will be approved, and possibly even Watermark (which the local community wants to go ahead).

    It was better when the system was corrupt under Labor. At least you knew who had to be bribed to get a favourable outcome.

  34. Uber

    Myrddin Seren you make some valid points about the value of mining Galilee Basin coal. However mining costs for the project will be lower than recent historical costs. That is pretty much a guaranteed outcome of the catastrophic decline in the industry.

    Also there are very few greenfield coal deposits in the world worth a look a the moment. Galilee has the advantage of being located in Australia with all of its infrastructure, expertise, stability, access to cheap and reliable finance, mature market setting, and relative scale. I’m not sure what the coal quality is like but from memory it is superior to much that is being looked at elsewhere.

  35. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Adam at 11:56 am:

    Once they have crushed our natural advantages in minerals and metals, I expect the green activists to go after broad acre farmers with the same relish they claim to support those same farmers against mining exploration.

    I work in offshore oil and gas. Was speaking to a project manager yesterday who regularly travels to a Northern port on a river in China. he said that it’s one long hub of building FPSOs, oil rigs, super tankers, you name it. He said that he flew up the river on a chopper and the naval ship yards just went on and on and on. It reminded me of the industrial capacity of the USA during WWII, and how Japan was doomed from the start because of the USA’s industrial base. China is now the industrial base, and with every win from the lefty-greenie filth we slip further and further behind.”

    We just don’t know the half of it Adam and the green saboteurs know even less. I read recently Adani is said to be broke, which is a true truth because they just made it up.

    No Federal government will take any action at all – all they need do is withdraw as an approval authority, repeal the legislation, kick their useless bureaucrats to the kerb and leave these things to the States, which is as it was 25 years ago. The States are doing nothing too – Pony Girl badly needs royalty income from Carmichael, but is doing precisely nothing to assist Adani; and NSW is moving against coal mines and removing the economic imperative considerations from its own environmental legislation – a Liberal government!

    So few here know if they fly “up the river on a chopper and the naval ship yards just went on and on and on”, let alone notice the line up of ships headed into Singapore port, or are aware that the Chinese own Cubbie Station, lots of top end cattle stations and paid some bloke $70m for La Mer in Vaucluse.

    Our young are preoccupied with important stuff – fully informed (to the extent only that Miss told them at infants school) of the appawlllingly murderous treatment of piccaninnies by some bloke named Kidman, and Tony Abbott; astonished that p00ves are so discriminated against by older people who know nothing (until one eyes off l’il Oliver at Maccas); and are happy for the moment to pay destructive marginal tax rates because they have not matured to the extent they even care what their endeavor is financing. Too late they will discover that Mr Lee was right in his comment about Australia’s future as “the poor white trash of Asia”.

  36. Andrew

    Thanks for those maps SB. Drawn to scale the mine is the size of a bacterium. Literally. One fucking bacterium.

    I encourage people to carry a map of Oz on their smartphone and ask the next swampy to define how big the mine is.

  37. .

    Good comment Mick, but you have to stuck into gays over this? Really?

  38. srr

    Nowhere is safe from these Poisonous Green minions of the UN –

    ENVIRONMENTAL CAMPAIGNING AND PERMACULTURE IN TIMOR-LESTE

    Activist, permaculturist, singer-songwriter and environmental troubadour Ego Lemos has been charming audiences around the world for over 10 years years with his inspiring enthusiasm for environmental and social revitalisation in his home country of Limor-Leste and abroad.

    Ego has lived through tumultuous changes in his nation’s recent history – from the Portuguese colonial rule, to the Indonesian occupation, and into UN transition and Independence. He was the founder of Timor-Leste’s first Permaculture centre, Permatil, which he coordinated for five years.

    Ego has spoken around the world about his experience of the revitalisation that permaculture has brought to his community, and others around the world, carrying his guitar and singing his songs in praise of his nation’s peasant farmers, and in support of his people’s struggle for unity.

    This event is hosted by Shane Rattenbury MLA, ACT Greens Member for Molonglo in partnership with the Canberra Friends of Dili.

    See, it isn’t only the GreenFilth we’re up against, it is The United Nations.

  39. Rohan

    Once they have crushed our natural advantages in minerals and metals, I expect the green activists to go after broad acre farmers with the same relish they claim to support those same farmers against mining exploration.

    They most definitely will. The green hatred of large scale modern farming is almost as bad as it’s hatred of anything else associated with wealth generation. A brother of an old Uni mate is a rabid greeny. Pulls out all sorts of conspiracy theories, including the time when Kim Jong Un decided to shell that island under his fathers guidance 6-7 years back. Claimed it was the US or South Korea.

    Anyway, after I shot down that theory in flames, he then started banging on about how the evils of modern farming was ruining the environment and cited more tin-foil-hat conspiracy theories about capitalism being at fault. God help us if they ever achieve any real political power.

  40. .

    FFS gays and permaculture are not to blame for this ridiculous regulatory quagmire.

  41. Toiling Mass

    I saw an ornamental snake once in Queensland – it was draped over a roadsign between Ilfracombe and Barcaldine. Clearly, after running it over, some thoughtful person decided to drape it over the sign as you do with tinsel on a Christmas tree.

    If I ever get the chance, I will impale a yakka skink on top as well – like a Christmas tree star.

  42. srr

    FFS gays and permaculture are not to blame for this ridiculous regulatory quagmire.

    Yes, but only as sidelines and bait for buying into the UN’s ‘Sustainability’ Agenda [21].

    “Think Globally, Act Locally” = ONE of US, One of US, one of US …

  43. Rabz

    Hairy Joint grass

    A weed, in other words.

  44. DaveR

    If we are serious about ending the “Green Sabotage on Coal” and on a number of other industries, we must tackle Greenpeace and FOE and their fellow travellers head-on. Like India, we must realise that many of these ideological campaigns are being run directly out of Europe with no regard for the wishes of the Australian public or elected governments. And we afford greenpeace etc charity tax status.

  45. A Lurker

    It is amazing that protected species only live where new mining, construction or energy projects occur.

    Yes odd that. Makes me wonder if these species were especially transported in prior to the environmental assessment.

  46. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From . Dot at 1:00 pm:

    “Good comment Mick, but you have to stuck into gays over this? Really?”

    No, stuck into the ignorant young for the unimportant things which preoccupy them – the greatest moral, economic and social challenges of our time such as aborigines; the vital importance of homosexuals being happy, gay and contented; the humanity of Heifer-Bong; courageous Julian Assange’s fundamental human right to be welcomed in any country which ignores rape allegations in Sweden; Nauruan cannibals feasting on gentle muslim Centrelink seekers; Indonesian death squads machine gunning talented artists and so on, during this odd epoch in which high minded hyperbole trumps inquiry, objective analysis and substantiated conclusion.

    I’m certain that a lot of them won’t realise who is serious about running the show at a profit until their new Singaporean company owner appears at their workstation, with his second cousin’s kid in tow and blunt instructions to visit the Personnel Department to collect any outstanding salary and unpaid long service leave and nothing more.

  47. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Pay very close attention to Pickles’ link.

    That’s the overall master plan by Greenpeace to destroy ALL of our energy export industries.

  48. I’ve a fair eye for flora, and a pretty good one for fauna, for I’ve lived most of my life camped out amongst both.

    I’ll declare myself the Cat’s resident expert on the Carmichael mine site.
    Being one of the few (if not the only) Cat who has walked ridden a horse over possibly every inch of the proposed Carmichael mine lease (except the part on Carmichael station) I can confirm that the Yakka Skink and the Ornamental Snake are endangered.

    I never saw either species. Not in months.

  49. Fred Lenin

    Years ago the alp/ greens blocked a dam on the Mitchell River in Gippsland one of the reasons was a tiny fish. The spotted gudgeon or some such . Mates of mine who atrout fished in fresh water of course tried tgem as live bait ,after many trials they never caught a fish . i was given so e live ones and tried them in the salty water of the lakes ,nexer git a bite ,even though rods with other bait went off repeatedly and fish were caught ,so what good was the spotted gudgeon about as usefull as alp/ green politicians . Bye tge way. If tge dam had been built there woukd have been no need for the multi billion corrupt Desal pkant at Wonthaggi ,for which by the way no one has ever been charged with corruption ,YET!

  50. James

    Opposition Leader Bill Shorten said leaders should not be showing themselves up as smarter than business or the courts.

    The Adani ‘mess’ came about because the government rushed its approvals.

    ‘Sometimes slow and steady and having respect for good processes delivers you actually the best commercial outcome,’ Mr Shorten told reporters in Sydney.

    How much slower does Shorten want?

  51. James

    God help us if they ever achieve any real political power.

    They already do. And they got Alan Jones on side.

  52. srr

    DaveR
    #1759853, posted on August 7, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    If we are serious about ending the “Green Sabotage on Coal” and on a number of other industries, we must tackle Greenpeace and FOE and their fellow travellers head-on. Like India, we must realise that many of these ideological campaigns are being run directly out of Europe with no regard for the wishes of the Australian public or elected governments. And we afford greenpeace etc charity tax status.

    Dave! Dave Is home 😉 … and the lights are on 🙂

  53. James

    What’s the bet that the yakka skink will never be found in an area in which wind mills are to be erected?

    I guess they don’t climb up the pole and be spliced by the blades?

  54. lotocoti

    What is currently occurring is …

    The result is a sixteen thousand page EIS, which Alan Jones will then decry as impossible for anyone to read, let alone fully understand.
    See AJ vs CSG Anywhere for a preview of what comes next.

  55. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Fred Lenin at 2:40 pm:

    “Years ago the alp/ greens blocked a dam on t … pfffst, crackle, glum, beep beep”

    Oh Fred – love yer work son but I’m not sure which is more amusing – the woeful presentation or the fact that I managed to understand it! 😉

  56. srr

    Pickles link –

    http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/1206_greenpeace.pdf

    yep, TheirABC Media Watch spruiked, UN Agenda/Greenpeace Branch

  57. rebel with cause

    Was speaking to a project manager yesterday who regularly travels to a Northern port on a river in China. he said that it’s one long hub of building FPSOs, oil rigs, super tankers, you name it. He said that he flew up the river on a chopper and the naval ship yards just went on and on and on.

    Australia is fast becoming the most boring place on earth. We don’t build stuff, we don’t make stuff and we don’t invent stuff. We just crush dreams under paperwork and bureaucracy.

  58. Lem

    Queensland economy is tanking so badly….been saying it for a while on these pages. There is pretty much nothing happening here (except for the insolvency accountants and lawyers, they always do well). We have had net migration out of the state in the last 12 + months. Everyone I know (who has no financial imperative to move) is hunkering down for the next few years.

    The only thing that has kept private employment up is the apartment building frenzy, which is soon coming to an end, with an expected oversupply leading to price deflation. Could be good for young people with secure employment wanting to get in to the inner city property market. High end property is languishing.

    Meantime, Qld Government has gotten themselves all excited about the planned Casino redevelopment, which will have something like 50 new restaurants. Good luck to anyone who takes up a lease there, the local restaurant market is already tanking, people only bet if they have disposable income, and consequently I predict a huge disaster for this project.

    I mean, if James Packer can’t make money in Macau right now, I’d say go short casinos.

    A Premier who doesn’t know what the GST is probably has no hope of understanding that.

  59. .

    A Premier who doesn’t know what the GST is probably has no hope of understanding that.

    Brutal.

    Like Blake (Arik Baldrin) out of Glengarry Glen Ross:

    “I’d wish you GOOD LUCK! gentlemen, but you wouldn’t know what to do with it…”

  60. Lem

    Too true, Dot. I am old enough to remember Queens Street, Brisbane in the 80’s after 5 pm on a Friday and you could have fired a gun down the street without hitting anything but a tumbleweed.

    But despite Rebel’s friend’s report from China I’d say appearances are deceiving. Unless those naval yards are military, they’ve had their peacetime boom, and we’ve had the one China we’ll get for the next 5 or so years.

    On the up side, who knows? We could see the Yakka skink extend it’s territory down to the Brisbane River.

  61. Pickles

    I have about as much sympathy for the mining industry in respect of environmental problems as I do for the other primary industry. Miners and farmers have exhibited disgraceful softcockery for a generation in dealing with these destructive filth. When will they realise that the green left are the enemy and must be torn to pieces ? Never I am afraid.

  62. Infidel Tiger

    Spot on Pickles. They deserve what they reap.

    A shame we have to suffer.

  63. Pickles

    Every department in every jurisdiction is infested with them. What did Newman do in Qld? Just left them there. Now they rise again after having a little rest. Worse still, they infest mining companies and agribusiness with their policies of appeasement and surrender.

  64. Austin Mangosteen

    What Greenpeace sympathizers and donors are doing is not illegal and therefore not an illegal conspiracy. But by any other definition the aim of Greenpeace is nothing but a sinister design to bring about subversive acts and, therefore, a conspiracy. (But conspiracies do not exist.)

    Naturally, Rob Oakshott and Tony Windsor are absolutely proud of their contribution to Australia. However, if they hold their heads too high, they just might get lopped off; so better that they remain on the endangered species and are not heard or sighted again.

    The community backlash to coal-seam gas has created “unprecedented political opportunities”, as has the fact that the Greens hold the balance of power in the Senate and jointly in the House of Representatives “with two rural independents” who are deeply concerned” about the impacts of coal on agricultural land and groundwater.

  65. Tel

    What Greenpeace sympathizers and donors are doing is not illegal and therefore not an illegal conspiracy.

    There have certainly been cases where Greenpeace has deliberately gone beyond the law in their activism, and there’s been even more cases where their followers have advocated illegal direct action. Remember this:

    We know who you are. We know where you live. We know where you work.

    And we be many, but you be few.

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/04/06/damage-control-greenpeace-removes-threats/

    Pretty clearly a threat… not the sort of thing we would like to see around here. I think Greenpeace supporters have a fairly good idea what the organization stands for, and those who don’t are lazy.

  66. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    We don’t build stuff, we don’t make stuff and we don’t invent stuff. We just crush dreams under paperwork and bureaucracy.

    When will politicians start to tell people this truth?
    When will the people themselves wake up to it?
    When there are no jobs and the dollar is at 35 cents?
    And you take your own toilet paper to hotels, extreme Soviet style?

  67. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    We don’t build stuff, we don’t make stuff and we don’t invent stuff. We just crush dreams under paperwork and bureaucracy.

    .. under paperwork and bureaucracy fuelled by Green idiocy in a deliberate attempt to destroy us.

    Stop them now. Legislate their tax-eating organisations out of existence.
    Repeal the laws on which they try to bring this country to its knees.
    Show some leadership on this issue, Abbott. Don’t just moan, as you are doing now.

  68. Crossie

    the ABC24 newsreader chick labelled the skink a ‘Yakka skank’.

    No hard yakka for the his chick.

  69. Crossie

    Oh, sod it, it should be “this chick”.

  70. the ABC24 newsreader chick labelled the skink a ‘Yakka skank’.

    Their ALPBC has serious form for complete & total disconnect from Australiana.
    No real surprise in the “skank” comment.

  71. Crossie

    and NSW is moving against coal mines and removing the economic imperative considerations from its own environmental legislation – a Liberal government!

    Mike Baird is a “wet” like his father Bruce. What did people expect?

  72. mareeS

    Fuck these lawfare greens. I would drown one every day in the ocean baths where I swim, if only I could get away with holding their heads under the water for a suitable minute or two.

    Our son works in the mining industry, his family depends on it.

    Who are these idiots to say he can’t do his job in a remote area to provide them with air-conditioned offices in the city?

    Meat doesn’t come from beasts, and climate control doesn’t come from coal?

  73. But despite Rebel’s friend’s report from China I’d say appearances are deceiving. Unless those naval yards are military, they’ve had their peacetime boom, and we’ve had the one China we’ll get for the next 5 or so years.

    Funny you should say that. Part of my chat with the project manager was how quickly the USA changed most of its domestic industries to military in a very short space of time. Hey, you used to make tea pots; now you make bombs.

  74. Pickles

    Of course the cynic in me would say that when existing miners were threatened with a big new tax they fixed bayonets real quick but they are loathe to engage the greens when they are providing very effective barriers to entry for new producers. Of course the cost of the erection, maintenance and existence of the barriers are spread across the whole economy, to the benefit of established producers.

  75. Shy Ted

    Any truth in the Twatter #Icrawlwiththeskink&slitherwiththesnake feed/trend or whatever bloody word the Twats use?

  76. Aynsley Kellow

    In 2008, in my Brisbane Lecture, I proposed Kellow’s Law of Endangered Species: Sightings of endangered species will cluster around sites of proposed developments.

    The reason is two-fold: 1.The preparation of environmental impact assessments will often find endangered species where none was known (ironically, suggesting they are more populous that thought) simply because nobody had previously looked; 2. Political opponents of the development project have an incentive to look for and find endangered species.

    The Bald Hills Orange Bellied Parrot was a classic – though the only sighting was some distance away. Nothing that either: 1. Modelling; and 2. Invoking the Precautionary Principle can’t overcome.

  77. Gab

    Ever notice how endangered species are never ever found on wind and solar farm sites? it must be Gaia’s way of giving her approval to expensive and inefficient electricity.

  78. mundi

    The indian president wasnt that long ago claiming that all coal imports would end in 3 years.

    Meanwhile imports are going up and companies are making decade long investments based on coal imports.

  79. notafan

    Looks like the orange bellied parrot saved us from one wind farm.
    And it really is a beautiful bird


    old article from the Conversation about the endangered orange bellied parrot.

  80. Koala21

    Can someone help me out. Who were the judges on the Federal Court responsible for this judgement?

  81. Austin Mangosteen

    Looks like the orange bellied parrot saved us from one wind farm.

    But not for long.

    Ten years later Environment Minister Ian Campbell decided that the bird could be used as an excuse not to allow the construction of a wind farm in a friend’s electorate in Gippsland. The chances of any birds hitting the turbines were vanishingly small, and he was forced to reverse the decision,

    Greenpeace and greenies have a sadistic streak. Killing birds is okay.

    As Tel references:
    higher up the food chain at Greenpeace, …. author, Gene Hasmi ….Statement from Ananth, International Programme Director:

    You’ve probably come here to read a blog post written by our colleague Gene, in which he addresses climate sceptics by saying:

    Let’s talk about what that mass civil disobedience is going to look like….then hear this:
    We know who you are. We know where you live. We know where you work. And we be many, but you be few.”

  82. boof

    tell me are there any of these critters still alive as their vast territories are also cane toad territory and they have wiped out snakes skinks goannas quolls etc but nobody cares, I would think the minister knew enough about QLD to know they were already virtually extinct.

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