The tax decision

Taxes inevitably rise, even when a government says it wants lower taxes. Perhaps that’s code for lower tax rises than the opposition?

Anyhow, yesterday the Treasurer said

We aim for lower, simpler and fairer taxes

Today the Treasurers meeting (Council on Federal Financial Relations Tax Reform Workshop) issued a communique that said that they had agreed

That any revenue arrangements need to be simple, efficient and sustainable.

What happened to ‘lower’?

The Treasurers also agreed to lower the $1000 threshold for collecting GST. The devil will be in the detail, but we need to be very cautious about such a move. Recently I purchased from overseas an item priced at AUD $2150. I had to pay duties and fees of $389.45, comprising:

  • General tariff 5% = $107.50
  • GST (on the $2150 + $107.50) = $225.75
  • Import Declaration Air Charge (goods less than $10,000) = $40.20
  • AQIS entry charge = $16.

That’s an effective tax rate of 18.1%.

If I had bought the item for less than $1000 I would not have paid any duties and fees.

But what of the Governments’ decision? Since there are two fixed charges (import declaration charge and AQIS entry charge) the effective tax rate for low value items could be much higher. So if the item was priced at $200, for example, and subject to the 5% tariff, the total fees and charges would be $87.20, which is 43.6%.

Will this increase competition in Australia? Certainly not!

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87 Responses to The tax decision

  1. eb

    Well, Cincy. I think we all know this isn’t about the revenue, but instead trying to stop people buying stuff from overseas instead of buying from a local business.

    I don’t know how they will impose GST on my purchase of tyre valve caps I bought from China for $1.00. And of course, they have announced a start date, and, as Prof Laffer told us, that’s not the way to do it. Politicians are the dumbest people!

  2. Habib

    You currently don’t pay the entry charges on SACs, which clear goods under A$1000. As someone who works in the industry, I can assure you all this will be a collosal cluster fuck, an unmitigated disaster, and an unmitigated failure. I’m starting to think Staples is actually dumber than Wayne Swan.

  3. Hydra

    I’m wondering the same thing, Eb.

    If I’m a Chinese company selling 1000 widgets a week at $1.00 a pop with free postage (of which there are thousands), this completely destroys my business. Not because of the GST (I am up my prices by 10%), but because of the processing fee at the border, which may $10, or $20, or more, for the $1 widget, and all for collecting $0.10 in tax.

    This is completely unenforceable. Completely ludicrous.

  4. .

    GST on the tariff? This sort of stuff ought to be unconstitutional.

  5. Kaboom

    Well, the next time that Kaboom orders some strange electronic looking $200 device from China, there will be someone in Customs ripping apart the packaging, holding Kaboom’s new acquisition up to the light, and saying “What the fuck is this?”.

    Said Customs/Duty person will then have to spend maybe 3 or 4 hours trying to work out (a) what it is, and (b) what is its possible value. This will cost them (say a lower-level administrative flunky @ $30 per hour) up to $120.

    They will then have to write a fucking letter to Kaboom (at the recipient address), saying “We have assessed the value of your import at $200, and you need to pay GST of $20, before we can release it from bonded storage.”

    Kaboom will write back saying “OK, here’s your fucking $20, JUST SEND ME THE THING!”

    They will write back saying thank you, we have re-packed your item, and maybe the next time the international carrier calls around, they can on-forward it to you.

    Total delay – a minimum of 2 weeks, or perhaps forever, as the carrier is not going to be too pleased about this.

    Jesus Fucking Christ on a bicycle – Gerry Harvey must be coming in his pants, now that his proposed tax has the imprimatur of Sloppy Joe.

    IT is quite correct – this country is a fucking toilet.

  6. notafan

    How can Australian post deliver items for under $1.00?
    Even if it went standard letter rate the domestic rate is 60c.
    No wonder Australia Post is losing millions if they are effectively delivering items for international businesses for free.

  7. incoherent rambler

    How can Australian post deliver items for under $1.00?

    Please tell me. I can’t compete on postage with USA/Chinese web stores.

    And it still irks me that I ship to the US cheaper than I can to Perth.

  8. Jack

    It’s a rort that should never have happened. Other countries demand tax be paid on imported goods, as should we. Level playing field anyone?

  9. JC

    Recently I purchased from overseas an item priced at AUD $2150. I had to pay duties and fees of $389.45, comprising:

    General tariff 5% = $107.50
    GST (on the $2150 + $107.50) = $225.75
    Import Declaration Air Charge (goods less than $10,000) = $40.20
    AQIS entry charge = $16.

    Sinc

    Always use reshippers. They will even re-invoice you any amount you want if you feel you need it.

    reship.com offer a great service.

  10. stackja

    Again the problem is the ALP/Greens refuse to cut spending.
    Less spending and then the need for more taxes is removed.
    I do not want more taxes and blame the ALP/Greens.

  11. jock

    Dear lucius. I admit to prefering your predecessor cornelius sulla. He knew what to do with his opponents. Yet interestingly gave up his dictatorship and retired.

  12. notafan

    Me too Rambler.
    China is taking massive advantage of the existing international postal agreement and the four million dollar man has done nothing about it except jack up domestic parcel rates to make domestic businesses even less competitive.
    I think the rate for the majority of imports will be 10% as international businesses will do voluntary registrations.
    I’ve been hit with the extra fees on imports over $1000 .
    I’ve also had items shipped from the UK to France and the retailer simply added the French VAT (17.5%) at checkout and that was the only charge

  13. Don

    I have also had similar experiences on import of an item valued at $1200. I was prepared for the GST but absolutely livid at the extra charges which came to more than the bloody GST. Why hasn’t the MSM exposed this?
    I am afraid Joe Hockey is a prize lemon of a Fed Treasurer.

  14. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Idiots. The compliance costs to Customs will be at least $50 per item.

    I think reship.com’s going to get a LOT of business.

  15. Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus

    Dear Jock – Sulla was not my predecessor! He was born in 138 BC and I was born in 519BC – 381 years earlier. But when Sulla retired, he suffered a hideous disease because he was a hideous man.

  16. jupes

    GST on the tariff? This sort of stuff ought to be unconstitutional.

    It gets worse. Importing alcohol requires a wine equalisation tax or excise on the goods + tariff then GST on the top of all that.

    Pricks.

  17. candy

    Perhaps local businesses support it, the ones who need a boost?

  18. Alex Davidson

    So now we know. Lower taxes = higher taxes. Free market = command economy. Freedom = regulation. Liberal = Labor.

  19. Jack

    All the major online players are set up to collect taxes to meet the requirements of the local jurisdictions they operate in. Cost of compliance won’t be excessive – the ASOS’ of the world collect the tax, remit to govt, and ATO follows the same sort of sample testing for compliance it undertakes on the average PAYE cohort.

  20. notafan

    There is no way, on current volumes of international parcels , the government would be contemplating a manual parcel by parcel gst administration.
    They’ll do exactly what they do to Australian businesses ,put the compliance costs on the seller, and for the big guys it’ll be a minimal disruption.
    International trade is only going to expand.
    Id much rather this that an increase on the rate.
    Though I’d rather neither, of course.

  21. Peter Pickled

    We are a small manufacturer currently exporting to the US – 95% of our business. If the US decide to reciprocate and charge duty on our items, we are done. Game over.

  22. Habib

    It does get worse, GST is levied on overseas freight, despite this being unconstitutional. A very large part of online sales are just that, entirely online. How are these cretins proposing to trouser a wedge from the purchase or update of an “intangible”, where there’s no physical good crossing a border, but a packet of data? FTAs will eliminate duty in a lot of cases of actual commodities, and the vast majority of shipments are letter class items from China and SE Asia, which will be colossolly expensive to attempt to regulate and enforce.

    The HVSOs aren’t impressed either with having another level of compliance lumped on them, along with the extra cost- they don’t make a cracker out of customs clearance. The biggest volume of low value goods are through Aust Post, and this will impact on their only profitable sector. Gerry Harvey can go fuck himself, I’ve spent dough there before, but never again. Ditto for any other panhandler that signed onto this. Brick and mortar retail is a walking corpse, this will accelerate its decomposition.

  23. Peter Pickled

    Sorry, new info from dutycalculator.com.

    The US sets a duty free $200 threshold for all countries that don’t have a free trade agreement with them, so we are ok.

    Nevertheless, it’s still shite. No more Harvey Norman for us.

    Shite. I need a drink. Well, another drink.

    Fu*k!

  24. Habib

    PP, the US is currently uplifting it’s entry threshold to US$800, about our current one. Under the most socialist regime since FDR. Go figure.

  25. notafan

    Hard to compare gst with the US because most US sales tax is levied at the state and county level.

    Duty taxes on imports to the US

  26. notafan

    Most of Harvey Norman is franchisee isn’t it?

  27. Tel

    Anyhow, yesterday the Treasurer said

    We aim for lower, simpler and fairer taxes

    Meh.

    His own side have finally stopped believing him, and his opponents never were listening to anything he said in the first place. That leaves a small handful of people in Australia who care any more.

  28. Andrew

    His own side have finally stopped believing him, and his opponents never were listening to anything he said in the first place. That leaves a small handful of people in Australia who care any more.

    The slow motion train wreck continues

  29. notafan

    Amazon had a big fight with various state revenue offices over its responsibility to collect sales taxes on sales to specific states.
    US federal tariffs vary depending on the goods but GST is equivalent to state sales taxes. In Illinois the closer to the centre of Chicago the higher the sales tax and counties like Cook County add an extra percentage or two.
    I’ve exported goods from the US and the paperwork is no fun either.

  30. Tel

    Kaboom will write back saying “OK, here’s your fucking $20, JUST SEND ME THE THING!”

    They will write back saying thank you, we have re-packed your item, and maybe the next time the international carrier calls around, they can on-forward it to you.

    The temptation is to buy bulky strangely shaped items around the $5 mark, with free postage, and then after they have mucked around for a while, just tell them you have changed your mind and it’s not worth paying all the fees so they can keep it. Hey, it provides jobs, right?

  31. Habib

    Taxes inevitably rise, even when a government says it wants lower taxes. Perhaps that’s code for lower tax rises than the opposition?

    It’s only inevitable because halfwit, profligate governments are so shit-awful they have to buy votes, and the easist way to raise the booty to bribe bogans is to hose the law abiding productive. Infecting the bastards with Guinea Worm is too good for them.

  32. Gab

    Anyhow, yesterday the Treasurer said

    We aim for lower, simpler and fairer taxes

    Right up there with Swan’s “we will deliver a budget surplus”.

  33. Peter Pickled

    PP, the US is currently uplifting it’s entry threshold to US$800, about our current one. Under the most socialist regime since FDR. Go figure.

    If true, that’s very good news!

  34. jupes

    It’s only inevitable because halfwit, profligate governments are so shit-awful they have to buy votes, and the easist way to raise the booty to bribe bogans is to hose the law abiding productive.

    This is so true. Election campaigns consist of nothing other than spending promises.

    It is retarded.

  35. Kaboom

    Tel, that is absolute genius!

    An order of 5 valve caps for $5 inclusive of postage. When it arrives at the c*n*s at Customs/Duty, they will have to assess a value (and work out 10% of same), and the recipient can simply say – “No thanks” – what do they do next?

  36. notafan

    Send it back to the seller like they do in the UK.

  37. dan

    how much does reship.com tend to cost?

  38. Robert Crew

    When importing goods over $1000 from a country with which we have a free trade agreement, you can ask the manufacturer for a certificate stating where the goods were manufactured. Some have it on their website. When you can provide customs a certificate showing the goods were mostly made in the FTA country, you avoid the 5.5% tariff. Customs add the tariff on automatically, so it’s up to you to prove otherwise.

    And sorry Tel, Kaboom, the law says you owe the money from the moment the goods enter the country, whether or not you take possession of the goods. Even if you send the goods back you have to pay the tax and can’t get a refund.

  39. Habib

    Reshippers get regularly targetted, and shipments audited. If you’ve had a go they’ll hit you with penalties, if there’s enough dough involved they’ll prosecute. Anything abandoned gets swiped by them, and if worth anything auctioned. They don’t give a shit about cost, and never lose out on any transaction.

    The US uplift of entry threshold was in a trade publication a few days ago, it’ll be enacted by the end of the year. What’s it say about this current crop of ditch carp that the Obama administration is more pro free trade?

  40. Tel

    Tel, that is absolute genius!

    Hardly genius, just watch how quickly people figure out they don’t want the goods any more after getting hit with “Import Declaration Air Charge” of $40.20 on a few valve caps.

    The ALP shut down the live meat trade in an afternoon, now this lot are determined to junk the postal service (might take them a bit longer).

  41. Habib

    RC, standard duty rate is 5%, with preferential rates under various schemes. Some goods are duty free in their own right, others such as excisable product and TCF goods have higher rates, some astronomical. Different FTAs have different documentary requirements. Anything over a grand will still cop GST unless exempt (fresh food, water, some medical aids and equipment, consular goods, bequests etc), and the electronic processing charges, which are weight based for airfreight and value based for sea. If you’re going through a courier like Fedex, DHL etc clearance and delivery is usually included, if through a freight forwarder or direct you’ll be up for local charges like ITF & the like, and fees for clearance unless you know how to prepare and lodge an entry, and have access to the ICS.

  42. Habib

    Also RC you only pay duty + GST on goods that go into home consumption. If seized, abandoned or retoured you don’t pay; if you have you can claim a refund within time limitations. Five years generally, with damage and pillage you’ve got 14 days.

  43. Hydra

    A real liberal government would have zero import duties on all incoming goods and zero tax on them. This is utterly ridiculous.

    There should be NO ONE employed in this style of postage handling industry.

  44. entropy

    Level playing field anyone?

    The only people talking about level playing fields are the people complaining about it.

    The market is never, ever level.

  45. rickw

    GST on the tariff? This sort of stuff ought to be unconstitutional.

    For a while I was importing machinery from the USA, the taxes on taxes and miscellaneous charges were eye watering.

  46. EB

    We are going to have taxation officials travel around the world visiting these companies asking them to register for GST purposes,” federal Treasurer Joe Hockey said.

    Da fuq?

  47. Rabz

    So are we all happy we were conned into voting for these z-grade dishonest hypocritical socialist squandermonkey cretins?

    I’m sincerely hoping that fat stupid cockhead has been inundated with massive amounts of ordure.

    As for being worse than Swansteen, the science is settled.

  48. Rabz

    “We are going to have taxation officials travel around the world visiting these companies asking them to register for GST purposes,” federal Treasurer Joe Hockey said.

    Thick as pigshit.

    The optics get worse by the millisecond. Keep blathering, staples.

  49. Rabz

    Rollin’, rollin’ rollin’, get those tumbrils rollin’ …

    😡

  50. Gab

    “We are going to have taxation officials travel around the world visiting these companies asking them to register for GST purposes,” federal Treasurer Joe Hockey said.

    I had to check that to ensure it wasn’t someone here being satirically absurd. Unfortunately, it’s the truth.

    Incredulous beyond any reason. The ATO is Left heaven and Hockey is now going to reward these moochers with a world junket.

    And all becuase Gerry Harvey wasn’t making enough money.

    FME.

  51. rickw

    There are much more pressing matters than this, however, The Treasurer and The Liberals generally are such complete morons that this is the only thing they feel comfortable tinkering with.

    Caretakers for the ALP.

  52. Habib

    I’s sure the skilled negotiators from the Canberra ATO will have those rubes from eBay and Amazon eating out of their hands. The outcome I predict is “Get the fuck out of my office, and tell that fat fucker that I wouldn’t give him the steam off my shit, let alone be his bagman by proxy. You want to gyp your citizens, that’s your business- at least have the gonads to do your own thieving.

  53. Andrew

    “We are going to have taxation officials travel around the world visiting these companies asking them to register for GST purposes,” federal Treasurer Joe Hockey said.

    Lets hope these ATO officials fly economy when hunting down these online companies and their GST receipts.

  54. JohnA

    Recently I purchased from overseas an item priced at AUD $2150. I had to pay duties and fees of $389.45, comprising:

    General tariff 5% = $107.50
    GST (on the $2150 + $107.50) = $225.75
    Import Declaration Air Charge (goods less than $10,000) = $40.20
    AQIS entry charge = $16.
    That’s an effective tax rate of 18.1%.

    If I had bought the item for less than $1000 I would not have paid any duties and fees.

    ARGH!!! HERE WE GO AGAIN!!! Your last statement is pure bulldust.

    If you had bought the item for less than $1000 you would still have been assessed for duty, IDAC, AQIS and then GST, calculated on the LANDED price (didn’t anybody teach you anything in Customs school?).

    So let’s do the numbers again with a value for duty of say $700
    General tariff 5% = $35
    GST (on the $700 + $35) = $73.50
    Import Declaration Air Charge (goods less than $10,000) = $40.20
    AQIS entry charge = $16

    IDAC and AQIS charges are government charges exempt from GST.

    Your total charges are $164.70 (and even if there was no duty, the total charges would be over $100). EVEN IF your goods came in under an Entry 11, the total would have to be collected from you, as it exceeds the $99.99 threshold for collection of debts by ACS .

    If you had been working through a Customs Broker, your goods would have been landed and processed under an Entry 10 import, the charges would have been grabbed straight away by EFT, and your broker would render you a 7 day invoice for recovery of their payment to Customs.

  55. Rabz

    “Get the fuck out of my office, and tell that fat fucker that I wouldn’t give him the steam off my shit, let alone be his bagman by proxy. You want to gyp your citizens, that’s your business- at least have the gonads to do your own thieving.“

    Or eBay and Amazon et al realise it’s an easy way to make a quick quid and they jack up the costs for suckers in Australiastan by 20%.

    Why the fuck wouldn’t they? It’s not as if we don’t already pay through the nose for everything else.

    Oh – and the cost of my imported tailored suits has also just escalated, you loathsome f*ckers.

    You are seriously going to regret this. 😡

  56. Habib

    JohnA, I am a broker, and I’m afraid you’re talking bollocks. Currently shipments with an FOB/FCA value of under $1000 at time of export are under a part 4 bylaw, and free of duty, gst and electronic processing fees. By sea or air they have to be cleared through an SAC, by post they’ll normally be screened free unless prohibited/restricted. Exceptions are booze and darbs, and split shipments ie where there’s 2 or more housebills on a master for the one consignee, all under $1,000. They’re still cleared on an SAC, however the duty indicator needs to be activated, and duty and GST are payable. Personal effects are also covered by a part 4 bylaw, and free/exempt if owned and used for over 12 months.

    I should have the bloody meter running.

  57. Rabz

    Lets hope these ATO officials fly economy when hunting down these online companies and their GST receipts.

    Fuck that – make the loathsome Hockeyesque parasites swim there.

    Or drown trying.

  58. rickw

    “We are going to have taxation officials travel around the world visiting these companies asking them to register for GST purposes,” federal Treasurer Joe Hockey said.

    He is actually a complete fucking idiot.

  59. Rabz

    Currently shipments with an FOB/FCA value of under $1000 at time of export are under a part 4 bylaw, and free of duty, gst and electronic processing fees. By sea or air they have to be cleared through an SAC, by post they’ll normally be screened free unless prohibited/restricted.

    This is indeed correct and I have the receipts to prove it.

  60. rickw

    JohnA, I am a broker, and I’m afraid you’re talking bollocks. Currently shipments with an FOB/FCA value of under $1000 at time of export are under a part 4 bylaw, and free of duty, gst and electronic processing fees.

    Habib, this has definitely been my experience.

  61. Infidel Tiger

    “We are going to have taxation officials travel around the world visiting these companies asking them to register for GST purposes,” federal Treasurer Joe Hockey said.

    This is the most outrageous thing I’ve heard in some time.

    I would like to beat Hockey to death with an imported frozen duck.

  62. notafan

    Well they travel round the world anyhow…

  63. Art Vandelay

    Anyhow, yesterday the Treasurer said

    We aim for lower, simpler and fairer taxes

    Which demonstrates that the Treasurer is a liar.

    For those of you who think that this is a good thing because it ‘levels the playing field’, it might help to do some research. The main reason why Australian retailers are uncompetitive is our costs are considerably higher than those faced by competitors overseas. It has very little to do with the GST.

    If the government really wanted to tackle this issue, they could, for example:
    – deregulate industrial relations laws,
    – cut red tape (including trading hours),
    – reduce taxes,
    – reform regulations governing land use (Australian rents are extremely uncompetitive), and
    – reduce energy costs by abolishing the RET.

    Instead, we are seeing yet another intellectually bankrupt, cowardly decision from a Liberal Party. They’d prefer to sell out their constituents and kick the can down the road rather than try to make the case for real reform.

  64. Rabz

    I would like to beat Hockey to death with an imported frozen duck.

    You’re not the only one, Squire.

  65. I would like to beat Hockey to death with an imported frozen duck.

    i’d rather that his advisers were beaten to death.
    Hockey should spend the rest of his miserable existence, stripped of all assets, watching what he has wrought.

  66. H B Bear

    Is a corpulent albatross worse than a goose?

  67. Rabz

    Is a corpulent albatross worse than a goose?

    How corpulent is the goose in question?

  68. AP

    The meeting agreed that now was not the right time to cut real estate stamp duties

    The cnuts decide to keep the tax on employment (i.e. moving home for work).

    These people are despicable.

  69. Mark A

    I have some sympathy for retailers with actual stores, but how do you explain this, I ordered an item from overseas that was available from an online only store in Aus. at 3 times the price + postage. Where is the justification for that?

  70. notafan

    What was the item?
    I use comparison sites and while there is variablity in prices (and sometines local is cheaper) three times as expensive seems extraordinary.

  71. Yohan

    A few years ago I imported a set of speakers that had a declared value of $1600 AUD.

    I lazily decided to let USPS do all custom clearance and taxes, so I could just pay the bill at the end, thinking it would be about $300-$400

    Total cost was $720 in taxes and custom clearance fees.

  72. Norman Church

    “We aim for lower, simpler, fairer taxes”. I aim for the toilet bowl. Difference is that there are consequences if I miss.

  73. The BigBlueCat

    The main reason why Australian retailers are uncompetitive is our costs are considerably higher than those faced by competitors overseas. It has very little to do with the GST.

    Art, you conveniently forget that the consumer at the retail store has to pay the price-included GST, thereby increasing his cost by 10% on a cost base that is (admittedly) higher than the internet sellers. So GST accounts for a generous increase in the cost to the consumer. But your point regarding base cost is taken.

    But I also make the point that many items purchased on the Internet are knock-offs, sub-standard and barely functional at best. Caveat emptor I know, but you generally expect that the item you buy here gives you recourse to return it should it not be up to snuff … good luck with try to return an item and get a refund from some dodgy factory in Internetistan.

  74. JohnA

    Habib #1774249, posted on August 21, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    JohnA, I am a broker, and I’m afraid you’re talking bollocks. Currently shipments with an FOB/FCA value of under $1000 at time of export are under a part 4 bylaw, and free of duty, gst and electronic processing fees. By sea or air they have to be cleared through an SAC, by post they’ll normally be screened free unless prohibited/restricted. Exceptions are booze and darbs, and split shipments ie where there’s 2 or more housebills on a master for the one consignee, all under $1,000. They’re still cleared on an SAC, however the duty indicator needs to be activated, and duty and GST are payable. Personal effects are also covered by a part 4 bylaw, and free/exempt if owned and used for over 12 months.

    I should have the bloody meter running.

    As a business, working through a broker, we paid on anything we brought in, even down to $10.

    So what does the Part 4 Bylaw say? Is it part of the GST legislation? Does it apply to businesses, or only to end users aka final consumers? Does it make the GST rate 0%, or does it merely permit Customs to waive the fees otherwise payable?

    You are the first person to finally agree with me that it is more than the GST involved, so the first error in this stupid campaign is that people can buy goods up to $1000 GST free, so change the GST.

    What is the actual legislative change that Gerry Harvey and the SDA Union are asking for?

  75. Mark A

    notafan
    it was 12/24 volt charger regulator for a small solar panel. I needed it for charging my truck battery when not used for long periods, the solar panel just sits behind the windscreen, works a charm.
    I bought the solar panel locally it costs only a couple of bucks more and came next day, but the regulator was $27+ plus postage locally and $6.9 postage free from HK.

    Even in kit form it was over $20 from jaycar

  76. Mark A

    Opps make that $9.6 (not 6.9)

  77. Mark A

    Just looked it up again now it’s only AU $8.49 same as I got prolly same co. On Ebay

  78. notafan

    Again my issue with that price is the postage component, domestic parcels under 500 g cost $6.43 (and that is with a contract) now the heck can sellers ship for $8.9 free post from Hong Kong?
    There is a scam afoot with international postage that Auspost hides by overcharging domestic customers.

  79. Tel

    Opps make that $9.6 (not 6.9)

    No 69 is June you fool.

  80. Habib

    They’ll either repeal or amend Item 26 of the 4th Schedule, or fuck with the bylaw terms:-
    Goods of low value
    Item 26 – Goods of insubstantial value
    Goods for which the value does not exceed $1,000.00
    1. This by-law may be cited as Customs By-law No. 1305011. 2. This by-law shall take effect on and from 1 March 2013.
    3. For the purposes of item 26 in Schedule 4 to the Customs Tariff Act 1995, goods (other than goods referred to in paragraph 4) imported into Australia, the customs value of which is less than $1,000.01, are prescribed.
    4. Paragraph 3 does not include:
    (a) tobacco, tobacco products or alcoholic beverages;
    (b) goods imported by a passenger or a member of the crew of a ship or aircraft arriving in Australia from a place outside Australia; or
    (c) goods forming part of a bulk order.
    5. For the purposes of this by-law, the “Customs Tariff Act 1995” means the
    Customs Tariff Act 1995, as amended or proposed to be altered.

    Either way they can probably do it without putting it through the house, not as if the majority in both won’t vote for a tax snavvle. If you’re getting charged on shipments under AUD1000, you’re either tipped out by the exclusions above, or someone’s fucked up.

  81. Adelagado

    All goods under $1000 imported by businesses already pay GST when those goods are re-sold. So the only GST that is currently being forgone is GST on privately imported goods under $1000. The Tax Dept don’t actually know what percentage of goods under $1000 are privately imported so the whole thing is one giant guess. My prediction is that the private amount is actually much smaller (and the business amount is much bigger) than they think, so they will collect fuck all.

  82. hzhousewife

    There is a scam afoot with international postage that Auspost hides by overcharging domestic customers.

    This link is interesting. I wonder what the “treaties” are.

  83. Infidel Tiger

    They are replying the 1985 State Of O on Fox. Amazing how tiny they all look.

    However, the passing, the chip kicking and side stepping is sublime. They all tackle around the ankles too. Players have got massive and hit much harder and higher but the skills that were on display 20 years ago were better.

    Much more attractive game.

  84. Habib

    Only have to register for GST if your turnover is over 75K. Lots of micro businesses currenty dodge that bollocks. Ignores the elephant in the room of unions and activist collectives that’re tax exempt. And political parties. Not just thieves, but hypocrites.

  85. JohnA

    Habib #1774669, posted on August 22, 2015 at 11:04 am

    They’ll either repeal or amend Item 26 of the 4th Schedule, or fuck with the bylaw terms:-
    Goods of low value
    Item 26 – Goods of insubstantial value

    Finally we get the admission that it really is about the Customs side rather than the ATO/GST side of the equation.

    Now, Habib, please tell us all about
    a) the March 2013 commencement (what I was describing was my experience through the Noughties, and Gerry Harvey has been banging on about this “issue” for much longer than two years)
    and
    b) the reason for the by-law (was there a prior equivalent by-law, for instance?)

  86. RacerX

    That theory is all well and good unless you are a shop in Australia that is required to charge 10% GST where their online competition don’t. It may not be efficient to collect but it is crazy to force our retailers prices up 10% when it is now so easy to buy online. Those overseas online stores won’t be giving your kids their first job.

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