Open Forum: November 7, 2015

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  1. P

    Grigory M #1849068, posted on November 7, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    February 3, 1959

    You got it Grigory M. Spot on.

  2. Rabz

    Carson is a weirdo

    Clinton
    Sanders
    Biden
    Warren

    Pot, meet the Kettles.

  3. srr

    Australia – ‘Love it, or leave’
    21 mins ·

    There can be NO LAW, other than AUSTRALIAN law !!!

    AUSTRALIA – LEGAL RECOGNITION OF SHARIA LAW!!!
    ~
    QUOTE from Australian Government website:

    Recognition can be empowering and inclusive

    Delegation of legal authority and autonomy over family law matters to Muslims could build trust and thereby aid in better social integration through acceptance of shared identity. Non-Muslims could see that Sharia is non-threatening and does not conform to stereotypes derived from publicity around traditional hudud punishments.

    & the Conclusion… QUOTE:

    In essence, Australian values and Islamic teachings on the question of freedom are not so vastly different. Both are based on ideas such as human dignity, justice, equity and egalitarianism” (paras. 14-15). For now, the status quo should prevail.

    https://aifs.gov.au/publications/family-matters/issue-84/legal-recognition-sharia-law

  4. JC

    Thanks Helen

    The stock agent sold all the cattle a couple of months ago. I was expecting they would weigh around 650 K but they came in at 450ish, so I never got what I had penciled in.

    He’s now too tame to buy some more because of prices and the paddocks are basically empty.

  5. Grigory M

    The new bull market for beef & cattle gallops off towards the 2020’s.

    Can Cows Gallop?

  6. Makka

    srr, regarding the Sharia Law link;

    “For now, the status quo should prevail.”

    …….. right at the very end.

  7. Andrew

    Cain had a long-running (13 years) affair with a woman called Ginger White while married

    So Gillard supporter m0nscum considers adultery a fatal scandal for elected officials? Wow.

  8. Andrew

    This country is run by opinion pollsters and twitter now.

    And into this environment Chairman Maolcolm lobs a 15% GST. Can there be any remaining doubt that he’s a double agent?

  9. Stephen of Glasshouse

    Now that the USA has a hard on for ” world leading ” Co2 reduction etc, I’ve got to wonder of the bastards have some new tech waiting in the wings. ( harking back to hemp vs synthetics in the 30s )
    Either that, or Obama is a lobotomy addict.

  10. Notafan

    Interesting article on beef.
    I’m puzzled by the concept of a fair price.
    Lucky us consumers who can eat bacon instead.

  11. Diogenes

    We can all use social media, we don’t have to just watch it happen.
    Pickering is on Facebook but might , funny thing I never see his or Pat Condell’s stuff in my feed even though I follow them.
    A lot more of what I see now is paid placement and the local Liberals pop up much more often. So the twitter wars may still be a matter of who has the biggest war chest.

    Sorry I am late to this discussion – but there is on interesting TEDtalk (and book) on this phenomenon called “Filter Bubbles” by Eli Parisier (he is on the Board of Moveon so that gives an indication of his politics – but what he says is accurate ). What you get back is “personalised” search results – what you get depends on what you have searched for in the past, what sites you have visited, what kind of computer you are using, its guess at your gender and age & location, and even the browser you are using (it is said Google uses 67 different pieces of information it has about you and your internet usage to “personalise” your search results.

  12. So Gillard supporter m0nscum considers adultery a fatal scandal for elected officials? Wow.

    Andrew, to be fair to Monty, that is not quite what he said.
    He said that Cain’s polls nosedived after the affair became public knowledge, and Monty also said that this affair was a “skelton in Cain’s closet”.

    A fair call.

  13. Oh, I see the idiots have failed to enforce the follow on, yet again, and now it’s raining. FFS, India was about 5 captains ago, and they still have the willies about it.

    I hope it ends in a draw, with the sheep shaggers 9 down and 700 runs behind. It would serve them right.

  14. BrettW

    Courier Mail today.

    27 January TURC brief sent Qld DPP recommending Ravbar of CFMEU be charged with extortion.

    Qld DPP then requested and received more info from TURC. Advice received from Qld Police as to state of their investigation and an opinion was provided concerning the referred conduct. DPP quoted as saying “it is inappropriate to further comment on the matter while the TURC is ongoing”.

    Also mentioned in the story was that, according to ministerial diary, Ravbar had a meeting with Attorney General Yvette D’ath on 1 September. D’ath previously a Union solicitor (AWU).

    Not mentioned in the story was that it was only a few weeks later that the TURC heard the evidence of the removal and destruction of CFMEU documents.

    The story does not indicate at what point DPP has provided their opinion. Clearly there are more matters for DPP to be considering concerning Ravbar but question is should AG be holding meetings with Ravbar in her office. Might be different if met in the street at a rally.

    Another story mentions Curtis Pitt (Treasurer and Industrial relations minister) having a fight with councils over wages and conditions for local Government workers. Unions fighting Qld Industrial Relations Commission for reintroduction of array of allowances removed by Newman Government. QIRC siding with councils and warned Pitt his request to vary awards came close to contravening separation of powers between Government and Judiciary. Local Government Assoc. Chief accusing Pitt of dancing to Union tune.

    Yet another example of Labour looking after Union members at expense of the general public.

  15. Zippy The Younger

    In essence, Australian values and Islamic teachings on the question of freedom are not so vastly different. Both are based on ideas such as human dignity, justice, equity and egalitarianism

    What … the…. fuck!?!?!?!!! someone is deep delusionville

  16. A fair call.

    Stop beclowning yourself, Salvatore. Nothing Muttley says is a fair call, as it only serves his narrative. There is no principle that can be set aside when it doesn’t serve the political agenda.

  17. Zippy The Younger

    Some of that human dignity, justice, equity and egalitarianism

    Blade of jihad: Extremists embrace the knife as tool of terror

    The knife has replaced suicide bombings, car attacks and random shootings as the new tool of choice for waging jihad on Israel, with leaders blatantly calling for Palestinians young and old to take up the kitchen implement and kill.

    While cars careening into crowds was the trend in terror last year– with hit songs in Gaza and the West Bank praising “martyrs” behind the wheel– this year Hamas and Palestinian Authority leaders, clerics and newspaper editors are openly encouraging stabbings that have so far killed a dozen and wounded 167 since Oct. 1. Through sermons, social media, online blogs, editorial cartoons and TV and radio reports, the message seems to be that anyone can pick up a knife and advance the cause.

    “Restrain the victim while others attack him with axes and butcher knives,” influential Sheikh Muhammad Salakh recently preached as he brandished a knife in a sermon that was widely viewed within the territories. “Do not fear what will be said about you. Oh men of the West Bank, next time, attack in a group of three, four, or five. Attack them in groups. Cut them into body parts.”

    The attackers are hailed as brave heroes, with a youth soccer tournament named for Muhannad Halabi, who murdered two Israelis, wounding the wife and two-year-old son of one in a stabbing in Jerusalem in early October. Some terrorists, killed by Israeli security forces and police either during or in the immediate aftermath of their attacks, are revered as shahids (martyrs) and have had streets and squares named in their honor.

  18. C.L.

    Isn’t Obama a muslim.

    Of course he is.

  19. Notafan

    Does someone want Australian taxpayers to fund muslims getting sharia law divorces?
    Why would anyone seriously consider giving any credibility to such a lop sided system.
    I seem to recall muslim women in Canada were outspoken in rejecting sharia law for divorce and family matters. The paper appears to ignore that.

    You could run a similar argument about Catholics having trouble accessing advise in relation to obtaining annulments.

    More taxpayer s money, more creeping sharia.

  20. Stop beclowning yourself, Salvatore. Nothing Muttley says is a fair call, as it only serves his narrative. There is no principle that can be set aside when it doesn’t serve the political agenda.

    Beclowning myself?
    Which part was not true Beery?
    1/. That Cain had an affair?
    2/. That the affair was a skeleton Cain had kept in his closet?

    Monty’s other sins may be many. You do yourself no favours by becoming tribal and piling on no matter what.
    Very Larvatus Prodeo of you.

  21. john constantine

    The future of the meat industries in Australia is tied to the political power of their green party,and their abc bully pulpit.

    Overseas demand is growing, prices are looking good, but the fanatical frothing committment of the left to the destruction of commercial grazing is never ending.

    The possibility that some swampfilth will deliberately import virulent diseases to wipe out Australias commercial animals is non zero–look at the barely medicated insane seething foaming hatred their left nutures.

    Having to kill all the animals to save them from exploitation is justified by moral relativism.

    Their moderate greens will just impose regulation and penalities until people just walk away from raising beeves and go raise tofu instead.

  22. Leigh Lowe

    A blast from the not too distant past …

    It’s on! Turnbull for PM.
    Posted on 4:36 pm, September 14, 2015 by Sinclair Davidson
    Malcolm Turnbull has resigned from cabinet and will be challenging Tony Abbott for the top job.
    My Canberra sources tell me that Turnbull has the numbers. As such I expect a new Prime Minister tomorrow.

    Good.

    Turnbull did not raise taxes.
    Turnbull did not abandon 18c.

    Malcolm Turnbull, I believe, can deliver Liberal government to Australia in a way Tony Abbott cannot.

    OK Sinc.
    Seven weeks in to the reign of Captain Agility, how’s Chairman Maocolm working out for you?
    Reduced any taxes? Nup. He looks to be keen to just jack up taxes in fact.
    Repealed 18C? Nup. In fact, he looks like he might want to stiffen the sanctions for stray words out of line against his new bestie, the Mad Mullah of Lakemba.

  23. john constantine

    The occupation of their abc by fundementalist activist ‘ban exploitation of animals to progress socialism’ drones is illustrated by:

    Meat free Monday campaign [and when that failed, the meat free monday regulated for schools campaign]

    The willing use of abc resources to broadcast anifilth lies and propaganda whenever it is spoonfed to them.

    The unforgiveable destruction of the Indonesian trade.

    The insane response to drown out and destroy the annual Australia Day ‘meat on the barbie’ adverts.

    The insatiable demand of overseas markets for good Aussie steak and chops doesn’t matter if the filth can ban you from supplying them.

  24. Which part was not true Beery?

    Salvo, the truth is rendered immaterial by Muttley himself. Did he denounce Bill Clinton? Of course not, because he’s Democrat.

    Muttley is a clown and so is anyone who stands beside him. Your choice.

  25. Beery, you may be having difficulty reading clearly.
    Or expressing yourself, or something.
    Credit where it is due. Monty made a statement. That statement was accurate.
    That Monty may make other statements that are not accurate is immaterial.

    You didn’t go very far with scholarship did you?

  26. srr

    Makka
    #1849080, posted on November 7, 2015 at 5:00 pm

    srr, regarding the Sharia Law link;

    “For now, the status quo should prevail.”

    …….. right at the very end.

    yep Makka, just like the end of every country they invade, when in the end, people are desperate to believe they will stop having trouble with them, if they only let them have their Sharia Law ………

  27. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The unforgiveable destruction of the Indonesian trade.

    Done wholly and solely to please the inner city luvvies. I heard Senator Chris Back speaking in Western Australia, who said out right that the “live cattle trade took the carbon tax of the front page for a few days.”

    He went on to say that, if Australia wouldn’t supply cattle, then the Indons would buy cattle from Brazil and India, and both those countries have foot and mouth.

    “When – not if – when foot and mouth broke out in Australia, the damage to the agricultural sector would amount to TWELVE BILLION DOLLARS – in the first year alone!

    I did have a mental picture of Greenies bleating – as the footage emerged of farmers shooting and burning their herds – “Oh, we didn’t think about that.”

    I dispise them. With a passion.

  28. Slayer of Memes

    Monty also said that this affair was a “skelton in Cain’s closet”.

    As opposed to Gillard’s multiple affairs, which were conducted in full view of the public and loudly touted by MSM while she was PM….

  29. Baldrick

    Their moderate greens will just impose regulation and penalities until people just walk away from raising beeves and go raise tofu instead.

    Love your work john c.

  30. cohenite

    From srr’s link:

    Diversity across the Muslim world is in part due to Islam’s adaptability to the culture, time and place in which it is located. As large numbers of Muslims now reside in non-Muslim lands, this inherent adaptability remains important. Researchers in Britain are noting the emergence of an angrezi shariat (English Sharia), which is a reconstruction of Muslim laws in the English socio-legal context (Yilmaz, 2005). German Muslims have adapted to allow state law to govern family and inheritance matters. In Australia, there are Muslims – including Keysar Trad, spokesperson for Islamic Friendship Association and the Australian Federation of Islamic Council – who feel our system should be more inclusive and champion the case for legal recognition of aspects of Sharia law, including legalisation of polygyny for Muslim men. Other Muslims find that the Australian legal system has “much room” in it, and when this is coupled with Islam’s adaptability, the result is that the two sets of laws are, by and large, compatible. In response to the case for polygyny, their argument would be that Islam does not make marrying more than one wife obligatory, but merely permissible in certain circumstances, and one of those circumstances is compliance with the law of land. They have noted that Muslim nations like Tunisia also make polygyny illegal. As Abdullah Saeed (2009) noted, “the freedoms that exist here are a part of Australian society’s fundamental values and should be seen as a plus from a Muslim point of view … In essence, Australian values and Islamic teachings on the question of freedom are not so vastly different. Both are based on ideas such as human dignity, justice, equity and egalitarianism” (paras. 14-15). For now, the status quo should prevail.

    Islam’s adaptability to the culture, time and place in which it is located.

    Fuck me purple. Islam adapts?!

  31. You didn’t go very far with scholarship did you?

    Let me spell it out for you, cloth ears.

    Cain is bad because affair.
    Clinton is not bad because affair doesn’t matter.

    Who else apart from Muttley sees this as morally consistent? Oh, that would be you.

    Now tell me again how how scholarly you are.

  32. calli

    What’s the thing with gluten intolerance? Is it some type of fad? I have three couples coming to stay next weekend and all the women are gluten intolerant. Every. One.

  33. Islam adapts?!

    You betcha. Knives, guns, bombs. Very adaptable.

  34. calli

    Beery, don’t mention JFK. Or FDR. Someone might explode.

  35. Geriatric Mayfly

    Ye Gods! Our favourites weekend Newsreader on SBS is tonight dressed as a black peony bush. Very, very rare. No news of any import whatsoever announced, but this startling raiment should be headlines.

  36. Baldrick

    What’s the thing with gluten intolerance?

    It’s a fad calli, along the same lines as bacon giving you cancer. Garbage science.

  37. rickw

    In essence, Australian values and Islamic teachings on the question of freedom are not so vastly different. Both are based on ideas such as human dignity, justice, equity and egalitarianism

    Revolution NOW, the fuckers in Government cannot be trusted, they are Islams hostage.

  38. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What’s the thing with gluten intolerance? Is it some type of fad?

    It might be a new fad, calli, but a good friend of mine was diagnosed after years of tests, and the difference in his life is immeasurable.

  39. Every. One.

    Calli, give em gluten free then tell them afterwards that you forgot they were gluten intolerant. After they return from the bathroom you can suddenly remember that you just happened to give them gluten free stuff.

    Then you can ask them how they got sick on gluten free food. “I thought you said it was gluten that made you sick? Maybe you’re not gluten intolerant after all.”

  40. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I particularly enjoyed the Museum of American War Crimes in Saigon, or whatever its name is now, for its spectacular rewrites of history.

    Yes. So did we. I think I put something up here about that after we returned a few years ago.

  41. johanna

    TURC Friday part three.

    Up popped Ross Shrimpton, MD of the company that own Action Labour Hire. He paid Belan’s surveillance bills out of his personal funds. But it was just a loan, he says, to be repaid sometime, whenever Belan could. Not that they’ve talked about it, andno, it hasn’t been repaid. Everything was done through Paul Rixon, he says. So generous, considering he claims he had virtually no personal contact with Belan.

    The we got Ms Issanchon, the President of the union, and also of Unions NSW. The NUW position in honorary, she is in fact an organiser and is paid as such.

    She is a signatory to the Belan slush fund account. In keeping with the now familiar pattern in unions, she wasn’t sure how decisions were made, she just signed whatever was put in front of her. Or so she says. The account was closed in 2013, she doesn’t know why, and the money (25k) withdrawn in cash and put in the safe, in Ms O’Brien’s office.

    She’s blowed if she can remember signing an authority for a bank cheque for almost $15k to Sinclair Ford in 2013, presumably a car deposit, or if it was a car for Derrick Belan. She knew nothing about a series of other withdrawals either.

    Once again, her credit card accounts were littered with purchases she knew nothing about. Interestingly, she said that sometimes when she was at a lunch or function with senior executives, they would put things on her card rather than their own, presumably to make their own spending look less extravagant.

    There was some to-ing and fro-ing about Belan receiving approval for a handsome termination payment, even though he was clearly under a cloud. Belan’s counsel objected. Ominously, the Commish said:

    … We are going to be back on Tuesday. If we have to be, we will be back on Wednesday. If we have to be here on Christmas Eve, we’ll be here on Christmas Eve.

    It also came out that the union had disbanded the Finance Committee, in breach of its own rules, years ago. So nobody was responsible for vetting the stuff that came to management meetings.

    Next up was Wayne Meaney, now the State Secretary, formerly the Assistant Secretary. We learned that he just agreed with Derrick about everything, and signed whatever he was asked to by way of cheques etc. We also learned that the $25k -odd that was withdrawn in cash from the slush fund when the bank account was closed in 2013 and put in the union safe was subsequently taken home by Belan, and never seen again. But, officials continued to have money deducted each pay, which was converted to cash and given to Belan! Oh, and Belan’s niece and one other accounts person were the only ones who knew the safe combination.

    Whew. A big day. They’re back on Tuesday, where we might finally meet the elusive Mr Belan. The again, it might not happen till Christmas Eve. 🙂

  42. What’s the thing with gluten intolerance? Is it some type of fad? I have three couples coming to stay next weekend and all the women are gluten intolerant. Every. One.

    Yes it is, people with celiac disease are gluten intolerant which usually shows due to lethargy and a low serum B12.

    These mongs think gluten intolerance is due to white bread making them fart. Serve them Aldi white bread and tell them it is made from rice flour. They will never know the difference.

  43. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Most bridesmaids are gluten intolerant. Brides, not so much.
    Go figure.

  44. Snoopy

    What’s the thing with gluten intolerance? Is it some type of fad? I have three couples coming to stay next weekend and all the women are gluten intolerant. Every. One.

    Calli, it’s simply a power trip. Such people get their jollies by making others bow to their whims. That said, I think you should cater for their special diet. Just cook what you want, but don’t serve them anything with gluten.

    Spaghetti Bolognese is very suitable. Your female friends just get a ladle full of bolognese sauce on their plate (with Parmesan cheese if they aren’t lactose intolerant).

  45. calli

    I have a pal with celiac, Roger, and I get that she needs special food. I just thought it was an over-represented sample. And the blokes seem immune – or does beer contain gluten? 😀

  46. johanna

    Forgot to say, parts one and two were posted at 3.29 and 4.33.

  47. Baldrick

    About 1% of the population in gluten intolerant. If you have 3 ladies for dinner who are all gluten intolerant, I’d buy a lottery ticket.

  48. johanna
    #1849129, posted on November 7, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    TURC Friday part three.

    Thanks, work has intruded into my online time 😉

  49. Snoopy

    Thanks Johanna for your TURC reports. I read them all.
    🙂

  50. P

    What’s the thing with gluten intolerance? Is it some type of fad? I have three couples coming to stay next weekend and all the women are gluten intolerant. Every. One.

    My dear sister who is five years younger than I am is totally and utterly glucose intolerant. She is still alive and I love her dearly. I only wish that she had been diagnosed when she was born or in the early years thereafter.

    Many I am informed are finding these days that a gluten free diet makes them feel and operate better. I don’t know if this is so, but because of my sister I am inclined to think that there may be many degrees of gluten intolerance.

  51. Let me spell it out for you, cloth ears.
    Cain is bad because affair.
    Clinton is not bad because affair doesn’t matter.

    Monty made no mention of any “Clinton”.
    Monty did not say Cain is bad because affair.
    Monty said Cain had a skeleton in his closet. That skeleton was an affair. Cain’s support base began to dry up when knowlege of this affair became publicised.

    Beery was never in danger of being dux of the school. tsk tsk tsk.

  52. srr

    Australian Government

    Australian Institute of Family Studies

    Family Matters No. 84
    Legal recognition of Sharia law
    Is this the right direction for Australian family matters?

    Ann Black

    Research undertaken by Dunn (2005) and Poynting, Noble, Tabar, and Collins (2004) indicates that there is a high level of apprehension among the general population about Muslims “in our suburbs”, which gives support to the contention that the majority of Australians accept and endorse the “one law for all” approach. However, this position does raise challenges for Australian Muslims for whom adherence to their religious law – the Sharia1 – is an Islamic obligation and not a matter of personal preference, particularly in regard to family matters.

    The issue of whether Australia should give formal legal recognition to Sharia law in resolving family law disputes involving Muslims will be canvassed in this paper.

    Conclusion

    Diversity across the Muslim world is in part due to Islam’s adaptability to the culture, time and place in which it is located. As large numbers of Muslims now reside in non-Muslim lands, this inherent adaptability remains important. Researchers in Britain are noting the emergence of an angrezi shariat (English Sharia), which is a reconstruction of Muslim laws in the English socio-legal context (Yilmaz, 2005). German Muslims have adapted to allow state law to govern family and inheritance matters. In Australia, there are Muslims – including Keysar Trad, spokesperson for Islamic Friendship Association and the Australian Federation of Islamic Council – who feel our system should be more inclusive and champion the case for legal recognition of aspects of Sharia law, including legalisation of polygyny for Muslim men. Other Muslims find that the Australian legal system has “much room” in it, and when this is coupled with Islam’s adaptability, the result is that the two sets of laws are, by and large, compatible. In response to the case for polygyny, their argument would be that Islam does not make marrying more than one wife obligatory, but merely permissible in certain circumstances, and one of those circumstances is compliance with the law of land. They have noted that Muslim nations like Tunisia also make polygyny illegal. As Abdullah Saeed (2009) noted, “the freedoms that exist here are a part of Australian society’s fundamental values and should be seen as a plus from a Muslim point of view … In essence, Australian values and Islamic teachings on the question of freedom are not so vastly different. Both are based on ideas such as human dignity, justice, equity and egalitarianism” (paras. 14-15). For now, the status quo should prevail.

    https://aifs.gov.au/publications/family-matters/issue-84/legal-recognition-sharia-law

    It’s actually more worrying that this is isn’t recent, but that in the years from when the references are drawn through to now, the Muslims and their partners in invasion, keep lying that none of moves are on the cards, while they keep chipping away, at Government levels, to find excuses and ways to push it onto us all.

  53. P: I always thought Gluten Intolerance was ruled by the lumpyness of the inside of the pancreas. The more ridges the better you can handle gluten.
    There was a chap at school with me whose pancreas lining was smooth like a billiard table (apparently).
    His gluten intolerance was so intense that if you so much as said “toast” to him, you’d have to call an ambulance.

  54. calli

    Oh, and one of the ladies is also lactose intolerant. You can only serve so much gelato.

  55. Baldrick

    The two words most associated with gluten free are Organic and Vegan.

    Go figure.

  56. Leigh Lowe

    What’s the thing with gluten intolerance? Is it some type of fad? I have three couples coming to stay next weekend and all the women are gluten intolerant. Every. One.

    Coeliac disease is a real thing for those who suffer from it, and can be quite debilitating if diet is not adjusted.
    However, I will bet that only about 1 in 10 who make a grand show of their “gluten intolerance” in restaurants are truly suffering coeliac disease.
    If you can be bothered, it may be interesting to gently prise from each of the three ladies concerned how they first became aware of their condition.
    It is likely that it will be an amateur dietician, a naturopath, a Chinese herbalist or some other snake oil salesman. Sure, they will have had their diagnosis “confirmed” by a GP, but I think sometimes GPs don’t bother arguing if a patient us convinced they have gluten intolerance, and the treatment us simply a gluten free diet.
    No harm done, and tiresome Q&A avoided.

  57. P

    P: I always thought Gluten Intolerance was ruled by the lumpyness of the inside of the pancreas. The more ridges the better you can handle gluten.

    I don’t know.

    I do know though that families who have diabetes produce offspring whose children inherit among other things, gluten intolerance (it seems to be a third generation thing).

  58. Leigh Lowe

    Ah, yes, their ABC ignores the TURC for twelve months, but lead tonight’s news with “Bill Exonerated”.

  59. hzhousewife

    What’s the thing with gluten intolerance? Is it some type of fad? I have three couples coming to stay next weekend and all the women are gluten intolerant. Every. One.

    Fashion.

  60. Leigh Lowe

    Oh, and one of the ladies is also lactose intolerant. You can only serve so much gelato.

    Bread and butter pudding?
    🙂

  61. Baldrick

    Ah, yes, their ABC ignores the TURC for twelve months, but lead tonight’s news with “Bill Exonerated”.

    … and I had a chuckle when they said, ‘Bill Shorten has been extensively questioned …’

    Well not that you’d know watching TheirABC News.

  62. : I always thought Gluten Intolerance was ruled by the lumpyness of the inside of the pancreas. The more ridges the better you can handle gluten.

    That is the absence of, or undersize villi in the gut/digestive tract, this results in malabsorbtion of wheat based products although it can include other grains (but not rice).

    To clarify – villi are a hair like projection that aids in absorption of nutrients but also provides motion through the gut.

    Cheers

    CPOMED(L)4 Jugulum

  63. P

    Coeliac disease is a real thing for those who suffer from it

    I confirm that coeliac disease is horrific.
    Today we are fortunate that those who are born with this may learn of it from infancy and control their diet so that their intestines are saved.

  64. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Coeliac disease is a real thing for those who suffer from it, and can be quite debilitating if diet is not adjusted.
    However, I will bet that only about 1 in 10 who make a grand show of their “gluten intolerance” in restaurants are truly suffering coeliac disease.

    Well said.

  65. Beery was never in danger of being dux of the school. tsk tsk tsk.

    Get your hand off it. Sides with Muttley and calls other people stupid.

    You see, Salvo, Muttley doesn’t need to say it, because it is implicit. Otherwise, why say it? He’s selective about shit like that because he’s a lefty, and lefties only say things political for political advantage.

    You did not give credit where credit is due, because Muttley deserves no credit for being a complete walloper. It is hilarious that the only things I get accused of here is impotence and stupidity. You’re so far from my weak spot it’s hilarious.

  66. All this talk about gluten is enough to give me the shits.

  67. the Sharia1 – is an Islamic obligation and not a matter of personal preference, particularly in regard to family matters.

    But fuck your Christian obligations if you’re a baker. See what I did there? 😀

  68. Grigory M

    Twostix – more evidence that Staffys are great, friendly dogs.

    Hero dog leads emergency crews to find elderly owner missing for three days

    🙂

  69. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From johanna at 6:45 pm:

    “Forgot to say, parts one and two were posted at 3.29 and 4.33.”

    Thank you Johanna for your continuing excellent summaries of TURC.

  70. including legalisation of polygyny for Muslim men.

    Because muzzies need frustrated young men who can only get a root by martyring themselves.

  71. Get your hand off it. Sides with Muttley and calls other people stupid.

    Didn’t realise you were such a class act Beery.
    Get this through your thick scone: I’ll side with anybody who makes an accurate statement.
    Your ramblings this afternoon certainly mean a call of “stupid” isn’t inaccuarte if aimed at you.
    You don’t like Monty? Fine.
    You believe if Monty says “X” then “Y” is accurate? Then you’re a dickhead (fair call really).

    If Monty washed his hands after using the dunny, would you make a point of not washing?

  72. Leo G

    What’s the thing with gluten intolerance? Is it some type of fad? I have three couples coming to stay next weekend and all the women are gluten intolerant. Every. One.

    There are several no-fuss screening tests for gluten intolerance/ coeliac disease shoppers, including tissue transglutaminase antibodies (tTg IgA), and endomysial antibody (EMA) tests.
    Trouble is, they have a false positive rate of 10% to 20% for a condition that has an occurrence rate of about 0.5%. Only a committed hypochondriac would opt for a confirming biopsy by gastroscope on the sole basis of a positive Point of Care test result.

  73. Twostix – more evidence that Staffys are great, friendly dogs.

    Shut up, Grigory. Staffies are the best, so that means I’m agreeing with you, and you know how much I hate that. Just stop it. Now.

  74. johanna

    I can’t find a copy of Stoljar’s submission on the AWU, which was released on Friday, on the website. I guess the web people have knocked off for the weekend, so hopefully it will appear on Monday.

    However, it says, from memory, that while he didn’t actually break the law (because unions are not covered by corporations law, otherwise he assuredly would have,) there is not much to commend his behaviour in terms of personal ethics or the interests of AWU members. Hardly an “exoneration.”

    Like with Gillard, the potential documentary smoking guns have vanished. So convenient.

    When the best thing you can say about a party leader is that they haven’t been charged with any crime, due to disappearing evidence, it’s hardly a ringing endorsement. But then, it doesn’t seem to have stopped the Clinton juggernaut, and there’s heaps of evidence there.

    The MSM and the left just don’t care about ethics or honesty, as is proven again and again.

  75. Notafan

    Everyone knows that not all muslim s believe in Sharia, or something.
    Someone better set Ann Black straight.

  76. Baldrick

    Aung San Suu Kyi’s NLD, Myanmar’s opposition party, is expected to perform well in tomorrow’s democratic elections.

    Unable to run for President herself because her children were born overseas, she said, “If we win, and the NLD forms a government, I will be above the president. It’s a very simple message. The constitution says nothing about somebody being above the president.”

    From one junta to another.

  77. Makka

    From srr’s link:

    Which is dated 2010. I seriously doubt that even inclusive Chairman Mal will try that crazy sh*t on us these days.

  78. incoherent rambler

    What’s the thing with gluten intolerance?

    What Asthma was to the 90s, gluten intolerance is to this decade.
    What is it that makes a gluten eating animal suddenly have an intolerance after 55+ years of eating *lots* of gluten with no hassles?

    Whatever, it is good business for many medics.

  79. You believe if Monty says “X” then “Y” is accurate? Then you’re a dickhead (fair call really).

    I wouldn’t go out of my way to show solidarity with him. So JC should hug muzzies for sharing his attitude towards women? Not fucking likely, and why should he? You don’t paint a broken clock golden because it’s right twice a day. If Muttley qualified his statement with “not that it matters to me”, then a compliment might be warranted, but kicking Cain is because he’s Republican, not because Muttley has any moral issue with it. And you call me thick 🙄

  80. Grigory M

    the women are gluten intolerant

    Glutes are great 🙂 – gluten, not so much.

  81. Memoryvault

    What’s the thing with gluten intolerance? Is it some type of fad? I have three couples coming to stay next weekend and all the women are gluten intolerant.

    Calli, with regards your gluten intolerant (and dairy intolerant) guests, remember the Catallaxy Doctrine. Don’t capitulate, escalate.

  82. And you call me thick

    In the interests of truth & fairness Beery, I’m hamstrung on that one 🙁

  83. Stimpson J. Cat

    Gluten Intolerant.
    Whining crybabies.
    Talk to me when you’re Sanity Intolerant.

  84. Snoopy

    When the best thing you can say about a party leader is that they haven’t been charged with any crime, due to disappearing evidence, it’s hardly a ringing endorsement.

    Two months ago I would have cared.

  85. So JC should hug muzzies for sharing his attitude towards women?

    I don’t care what that dickhead does. He can give in to his inner demons & hump muzzo boys from behind to his heart’s content, no skin off my nose.

  86. Talk to me when you’re Sanity Intolerant.

    I had to read that three times to realise you didn’t actually say “sanitary”.

  87. Grigory M

    All this talk about gluten is enough to give me the shits.

    Ah – irritable bowel syndrome. 😉

  88. P

    All this talk about gluten is enough to give me the shits.

    Me too except I live with it daily.
    My sister is a coeliac.

    I wish that her condition had been diagnosed at birth. I would not have gone though the traumas that I did.
    She, my beautiful sister would not have suffered as she did, rickets amongst many things which caused her not to be able to walk properly before she was five years old even though medical intervention was sought and some help was obtained before she was two years of age.

    So little was know then about coeliac and the consequences.

  89. DrBeauGan

    Johanna, my thanks also for the TURC reports. They are great and add value to the Cat.

  90. Oh come on

    He flat out lied in his book about the West Point thing, no amount of bald denials or counter-accusations change what he wrote. And now he complains about getting vetted for President, like it doesn’t happen to everyone.

    He may not have a Herman Cain type skeleton in the closet, but the more we find out about him, the more of a fool he appears.

    Oh, m0nty, you poor oblivious dolt. No, he didn’t flat out lie in his book. The dinner with Westmoreland is documented, and it’s perfectly plausible that the General offered to do whatever was in his hardly-inconsiderable power to see that his outstanding young dining companion was admitted into West Point, where *all* cadets attend free of charge. Carson subsequently decided not to apply for admission to West Point. But if he had have, do you think an application that enjoyed the support of the Chief of Staff of the Army would likely have been successful? Just so we’re clear, let’s use a scale of 1 to 10 – 1 being bet your life the application would be successful, and 10 being bet your life along with the lives of everyone you know and love it’d be successful – how likely do you think it would be that an application with such an influential backer would be successful?

    I personally don’t draw a great distinction between “4-star General Westmoreland offered to support my application to West Point, should I have chosen to submit one at the time” or “4-star General Westmoreland offered me a full scholarship to West Point”, but hey, that’s just me.

    And now he complains about getting vetted for President, like it doesn’t happen to everyone.

    No, he’s complaining about partisan media vetting of GOP candidates, which he’s absolutely correct about, and more power to his arm.

    There’s a very simple question leftists and progressive liberals like m0nty can ask themselves to test if their own political biases are obscuring their objectivity – simply consider if you think the MSM vetting of GOP POTUS candidates has been exactly as impartial and rigorous as its vetting of Dem candidates since at least the 2004 election?

    If your belief is that it has been, then sorry but you lack the intelligence to take your own biases into account, and subsequently adjust for these, when attempting objective analysis of media output. As I said above, an oblivious dolt.

    And you have the hide to call Carson a fool, m0nty.

  91. Rabz

    Oh, I see the idiots have failed to enforce the follow on, yet again, and now it’s raining. FFS, India was about 5 captains ago, and they still have the willies about it.

    I hope it ends in a draw, with the sheep shaggers 9 down and 700 runs behind. It would serve them right.

    LOL – thanks for the update, Beerie.

  92. Rabz

    Bluddee hell – people can lay into Salvo left right and centre, but it appears LDR has just released a tribute to him.

    He’s done well.

  93. SENATOR Di Natale says the Greens’ membership is surging and support in the electorate is continuing to grow as Australia moves towards an era when there will be three big parties fighting it out for government.

    Bruce in WA, so the Greens are still eating the Labour Party alive?
    Excellent.

  94. Bruce in WA, so the Greens are still eating the Labour Party alive?

    So it would seem, hehehehehehehehehehe…..

  95. Rabz

    SENATOR Di Natale says the Greens’ membership is surging and support in the electorate is continuing to grow as Australia moves towards an era when there will be three big parties fighting it out for government.

    Albo and Plibbers could not be reached for comment.

  96. Top Ender

    Appreciate the summaries Johanna.

    They are amusing and appalling at the same time.

    Would be an eye-opener for the country if the Daily Tele and a few other papers ran them.

  97. Albo and Plibbers could not be reached for comment.

    Well of course not, it’s a Saturday night, ones at the rub & tug and the other is in a haze of crack smoke.

  98. srr

    Oh dear, it looks like The Age has just branded an awful lots of cats, “similar to … far-right Norwegian mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik”, as well –

    Gun-toting anti-Muslim ‘crusader’ …
    http://www.theage.com.au/national/guntoting-antimuslim-crusader-at-lead-of-united-patriots-front-20151105-gkrk80.html

    Read the whole thing; you will recognise many cats posts and opinions being presented as, “like Breivik”.

    And yes, it’s the same paper that actively campaigns FOR Socialist Party Member, Yarra Councilor Stephen Jolly and the mask wearing, extreme, violent, anti-free speech rioters and innocent citizen attacking, Antifa.

  99. Snoopy

    The US WSM* prefers a black presidential candidate to have been invited into the Choom Gang. An invitation to West Point is too uppity for their taste.

    *Whitestream Media

  100. Oh come on

    SENATOR Di Natale says… there will be three big parties fighting it out for government.

    The good Senator appears to have a problem with basic mathematics.

  101. srr

    More insanity at The Age –

    Terrorism is a global threat, but so is organised crime.

    http://www.theage.com.au/national/terrorism-is-a-global-threat-but-so-is-organised-crime-20151104-gkqj8m.html

    Gee, maybe this should become compulsory reading for everyone at The Age –

    The rise of Middle Eastern crime in Australia

    Former NSW detective Tim Priest was one of the front-line cops who lead the war against crime in the drug-ridden streets of Cabramatta. Yet he found himself waging his biggest battle not against the drug gangs but against the very organisation he worked for. Eventually, he could stand it no longer and spoke out about the politics and bureaucratic bungling, chronic lack of resources and crazy policy decisions that seem endemic to the New South Wales Police Service. For this, he was labelled a ‘whistleblower’ and ultimately railroaded out of the force.

    Parliamentary enquiries subsequently proved that Tim Priest had spoken the truth and, perhaps more shockingly, that what the newspapers reveal is merely the tip of the iceberg.

    Tim Priest teamed up with academic Richard Basham to publish a book, To Protect and to Serve. It is available at all bookstores. It is required reading for every person who is concerned about crime in New South Wales and why the police are afraid of the ethnic gangs.

    This article was first published in the January 2004 issue of Quadrant. It is re-published here with the permission of Tim Priest.

    continue reading the full article at –
    http://www.australian-news.net/Tim_Priest.htm

  102. rickw

    He flat out lied in his book about the West Point thing, no amount of bald denials or counter-accusations change what he wrote. And now he complains about getting vetted for President, like it doesn’t happen to everyone.

    The dinner with Westmoreland is documented, and it’s perfectly plausible that the General offered to do whatever was in his hardly-inconsiderable power to see that his outstanding young dining companion was admitted into West Point, where *all* cadets attend free of charge.

    In addition, Carson had met all the criteria for being accepted, entry into West Point was his for the taking. All Westmoreland had to say to Carson at that dinner was “you should come to West Point” and Carsons story is completely true, if he didn’t, then Carsons story is merely a sloppy account of the true situation.

    As usual, you get hit with the headline of “Carson lied about West Point offer”, scratch just below the surface and there is really nothing to it.

  103. rickw

    Terrorism is a global threat, but so is organised crime.

    Maybe I’m missing the nuance?

    Is there any difference between Islamic Terrorism and Islamic Organised Crime? Both are licensed by the same ideology, you can do whatever you like to the Infidel.

  104. Rabz

    So yet again, m0nty has a problem with the black republican candidate.

  105. Tom

    SENATOR Di Natale says the Greens’ membership is surging

    Bullshit.

    and support in the electorate is continuing to grow

    Bullshit.

    The Greenfilth wave broke in 2010. Their primary vote collapsed by 27% in 2013. They will be lucky to get 6.5% of the primary vote in 2016, especially now that the country is being run by Lord Waffle’s kleptoparasite Ponds Institute Goldman Sachs neo-filth.

  106. egg_

    All this talk about gluten is enough to give me the shits.

    What’s a great recipe with gluten, lactose and ‘may contain traces of nuts*’?
    A picnic bar?

    *Other than a Greens voter’s chin?

  107. Rabz

    Terrorism is a global threat, but so is organised crime.

    But hey – both are only minor, perpetual irritants!

    Seriously – who here knows or is likely to encounter a terrorist or an organsised criminal, I asks ya?

    Relax!

  108. So yet again, m0nty has a problem with the black republican candidate.

    Is that more accurate?

  109. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    But more remarkable were the occupants of the house. They were very recent arrivals from Lebanon, and from the moment we entered the premises, we wrestled and fought with the male occupants, were abused and spat at by the women and children, and our search took five times longer because of the impediments placed before us by the occupants, including the women hiding heroin in baby nappies and on themselves and refusing to be searched by policewomen because of religious beliefs. We had never encountered these problems before.

    As was the case in those days, we arrested every adult and teenager who had hampered our search. When it came to court, they were represented by Legal Aid, of course, who claimed that these people were innocent of the minor charges of public disorder and hindering police, because they were recent arrivals from a country where people have an historical hatred towards police, and that they also had poor communications skills and that the police had not executed the warrant in a manner that was acceptable to the Muslim community.

    From the link by SIT. ” police had not executed the warrant in a manner that was acceptable to the Muslim community.

    F.M.D. I’ve got Tim Priest’s book on my library shelves. It might be the next to read, in retirement.

  110. Rabz

    Tom – methinks thou dost protesteth too much.

    #greenfilth4evah

  111. sdfc

    I don’t think being Carson being black as anything to do with Monty’s view of him. Why are you calling him a waaacist Rabz?

  112. rickw

    Read the whole thing; you will recognise many cats posts and opinions being presented as, “like Breivik”.

    I suspect that AFP will start going after UPF members and other like minded Australians, property searches, cancelling firearm licenses, confiscating firearms etc. etc.

    Police always defer to what is EASIER and SAFER.

  113. srr

    Makka
    #1849172, posted on November 7, 2015 at 7:32 pm

    From srr’s link:

    Which is dated 2010. I seriously doubt that even inclusive Chairman Mal will try that crazy sh*t on us these days.

    I did mention that it wasn’t a recent report, and that that makes it more worrying, because we are still getting those calls to give Muslim’s their way, even more so now, and again in response to their murderous violence, as our proof that we aren’t ‘racist’ against them and that we really do want to get along.

    All that’s happened since the earliest reference dates in the report, is that they have become more skilled and more forceful at talking people in letting them have their Sharia.

    A week is long time in politics, but 5 years is less than a Senate term, and the bloody Senate is only getting more Pro-Muslim, not less.

  114. Rabz

    sdfc – you are drawing a long bow – I have not accused m0nty of da waaaaacism, but have merely noted the facts.

  115. .

    Mmmyes a pro Muslim Senate with Bob Day and John Madigan.

    You could not make this stuff up.

  116. Fleeced

    As usual, you get hit with the headline of “Carson lied about West Point offer”, scratch just below the surface and there is really nothing to it.

    Maybe, but his “Pyramids are silos” idea is pretty crazy. Obama had his weird church, of course, and Romney was a mormon. Carson is a Seventh Day Adventist. So much whacky in American politics.

    To think, in Australia, they gave Abbott heaps for merely being Catholic.

  117. sdfc

    What facts? Did I miss Monty saying he didn’t like Carson because he is black.

    By the way I hope Carson becomes president. He’s a Perth boy. He might be able to get Turnbull to lean on the CGC to get WA a fairer slice of the GST.

  118. Rabz

    What facts?

    The fact that most of m0nty’s comments on the republican candidates in the 2012 and 2016 elections were/are unhinged attacks on Herman Cain and Ben Carson.

  119. johanna

    Thanks, guys. It is a telling comment on the state of the MSM that the TURC, which generates dozens of hot leads, is never followed up by the MSM. They are too busy buying unflattering photos of “celebrities,” or dirt on them, or gushing rehabilitations of them after they have been found to be snorting coke out of a hooker’s navel, because they are now “sorry.”

    Oh, when they are not abusing Tony Abbott, tongue-bathing Turncoat, or sucking up to Hillary Clinton.

    Pah!

    As for the TURC, a recurring theme is how the big unions, while publicly reviling labour hire companies, privately got in the cot with them like whores and extorted every penny that they could. Although, that’s unfair to whores, who at least provide an honest service without ripping anyone else off.

    As for their governance arrangements, the local school tuckshop is a model compared to these outfits, who turned over up to hundreds of millions of dollars a year. We are not talking about a bit of pilfering from the petty cash, or fiddling a few expenses, here. What has come out about the NUW involves at least Kathy Jackson-grade theft from members, for the same sort of purposes. Holidays, luxury goods, ordinary domestic bills, presents – meh, the union (i.e. the members) will pay.

    As for suggestions that Heydon, Stoljar and St Sarah are in on it – IMO, you might as well try to bribe Robespierre with a five pound note (h/t C P Snow.)

    These things happened because of gutless and/or compromised politicians. If they are not fixed, the blame goes to the same people.

  120. Boambee John

    Winston Smith
    #1849191, posted on November 7, 2015 at 8:20 pm
    SENATOR Di Natale says the Greens’ membership is surging and support in the electorate is continuing to grow as Australia moves towards an era when there will be three big parties fighting it out for government.

    AFA, National and Greens?

  121. Rabz

    sdfc – being the commie you are, why are you claiming WA deserves a fairer share of the GST?

    What about your mendicant others in Tas, SA and Victoriastan?

  122. So yet again, m0nty has a problem with the black republican candidate.

    A point completely lost on oblivious Salvatore.

  123. Makka

    because we are still getting those calls to give Muslim’s their way, even more so now, and again in response to their murderous violence,”

    My sense is that moslems may have hit their high watermark here in terms of their ability to influence matters. The Federal and State Govts are pouring money and resources into keeping them in their box. The MSM may still be boosting them but after the Parramatta shooting social media and middle Australia clearly will not accept Govt’s playing favorites towards moslems. That’s a hot issue button for votes. The biggest indicator was NSW’s latest effort to ‘dob in a radical’ in schools. That’s significant and sends a strong message.

    Of course we should remain vigilant but the state is clearly taking an iron fist inside a velvet glove approach. And I think it will work. My concern is the enormous costs this is to taxpayers. We should halt all moslem immigration because the security costs of managing them is horrendous.

  124. Rob MW

    “The Greenfilth wave broke in 2010. Their primary vote collapsed by 27% in 2013. They will be lucky to get 6.5% of the primary vote in 2016, especially now that the country is being run by Lord Waffle’s kleptoparasite Ponds Institute Goldman Sachs neo-filth.”

    Lol……thanks Tom I needed that. I’ve just come in from the field, covered in header dust an shit, and a good laugh was what was called for.

  125. sdfc

    WA, to put it simply, currently gets about 30c in the dollar Rabz. Nothing mendicant about us.

  126. Rabz

    What has come out about the NUW involves at least Kathy Jackson-grade theft from members

    Members only? Gillard, et al used to rip off the firms as well. The sums of “misappropriated” money being talked about aren’t gleaned from a small number of wukkas paying their $8 a fortnight.

    It’s an extortion racket. The TURC has proved this beyond doubt.

    My greatest fear is that despite these revelations, nothing will change.

    As for peanut head being exonerated, forget it. The guy remains an ugly thuggish criminal rapist (BIRM).

    Great look you’ve got there, labor.

  127. Rabz

    WA, to put it simply, currently gets about 30c in the dollar

    The joys of “redistribution of da wealth”, squire.

    You wanted it, you got it.

  128. srr

    rickw
    #1849216, posted on November 7, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    Read the whole thing; you will recognise many cats posts and opinions being presented as, “like Breivik”.

    I suspect that AFP will start going after UPF members and other like minded Australians, property searches, cancelling firearm licenses, confiscating firearms etc. etc.

    Police always defer to what is EASIER and SAFER.

    Also note how many “Gun & Bible” pictures the beat up contained.

    Gun & Koran, Knives & Koran, Human Heads sans bodies & Koran … Shut Up!

    Note also the references (that Muslims use as a War Cry and Curse), to Christian Crusaders, being the evil bad guys … for fighting back against murderous Muslim hordes … but can anyone point to any write up by The Age about the murderous Muslim hordes raping and pillaging their way across the world, and history, into the modern Christian West, today … it would be interesting to make a comparison, if they have.

  129. sdfc

    Rabz

    When have I ever argued for income equalisation. One link will do.

  130. Rabz

    sdfc – you’re a socialist. Those types of observations go with the territory.

  131. candy

    Nothing mendicant about us.

    Colin Barnett is a terrible whinger though, isn’t he. Nothing is ever good enough and he had that disgusting fellow Buswell in Treasury.

    The only premier who rejects raising the GST is Dan Andrews due to its inherent unfairness. I must admit, he does stand firm on issues. The rest – greedy chaps and chapette just dying for the money to balance a budget they are hopeless at balancing and never mind a regressive tax that further impoverishes.

  132. Zippy The Younger

    Of course we should remain vigilant but the state is clearly taking an iron fist inside a velvet glove approach. And I think it will work. My concern is the enormous costs this is to taxpayers. We should halt all moslem immigration because the security costs of managing them is horrendous.

    It would be so much cheaper to deport the current ones.

  133. Read the whole thing; you will recognise many cats posts and opinions being presented as, “like Breivik”.

    Can’t see it, srr. I haven’t seen any Cats post videos of themselves toting guns and proposing violence on Muslims.

  134. Makka

    “The rest – greedy chaps and chapette just dying for the money to balance a budget they are hopeless at balancing”

    No effort whatsoever to cut ridiculous levels of spending.The only effort is at increasing their ‘revenue’. We are all walking targets. I cannot articulate how deeply I despise them.

  135. .

    How hard would it be to get this gun permit?

    http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/182279/Commissioners_Permit_FACT_Sheet_January_2014.pdf

    Basically it would mean you could carry as you wished and could own any weapon you liked short of anti material weaponry.

  136. sdfc

    Rabz, seems your territory is making stuff up.

  137. .

    Can someone saying it would be cheaper to deport Muslims (what? legally?) and ban Muslim immigration would be cheaper than just keeping an eye on the loony ones – are you guys serious?

    Okay let’s say you are.

    Show us your sums.

  138. Rabz

    Wow – just conducting a very interesting experiment – listening to Taxman in five channel stereo – and it sounds very sound.

  139. Tom

    Rabzie, never forget that the only reality leftards accept is the one they wish existed.

  140. Makka

    How much would it cost to refuse a moslem immigration? Nothing. Covered by the application fee.

  141. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Colin Barnett is a terrible whinger though, isn’t he. Nothing is ever good enough and he had that disgusting fellow Buswell in Treasury.

    More a combination of arrogance and patronizing. “Father knows best.”

  142. Makka

    ” ban Muslim immigration would be cheaper than just keeping an eye on the loony ones”

    They are all fking loony, dickhead.

  143. My ears are burning.

    If Monty washed his hands after using the dunny, would you make a point of not washing?

    Aaaaahahahahaha.

    Re Cain, all I did was answer Salvatore’s question with the facts. It was the American religious right who had a problem with his adultery, not me. I didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition. Well, not for that anyway.

    I don’t have anything against black Republicans per se. However, many of the more prominent ones seem to be rather flawed characters. Allen West, for example, who is a loon. Carson, loopy on many levels, not just religious ones. Cain had that silly 9-9-9 tax plan which economic illiterate Art Laffer loved, a sure sign that it is just plain dumb. Colin Powell, complicit in a string of terrible foreign policy decisions by the Dubbya SCOAMF. Have there been any universally respected, unqualified success stories among them?

  144. Zippy The Younger

    Scientists who found gluten sensitivity evidence have now shown it doesn’t exist
    In one of the best examples of science working, a researcher who provided key evidence of (non-celiac disease) gluten sensitivity recently published follow-up papers that show the opposite.

    The paper came out last year in the journal Gastroenterology. Here’s the backstory that makes us cheer: The study was a follow up on a 2011 experiment in the lab of Peter Gibson at Monash University in Australia. The scientifically sound – but small – study found that gluten-containing diets can cause gastrointestinal distress in people without celiac disease, a well-known autoimmune disorder triggered by gluten. They called this non-celiac gluten sensitivity.
    Gluten is a protein composite found in wheat, barley, and other grains. It gives bread its chewiness and is often used as a meat substitute: If you’ve ever had ‘wheat meat’, seitan, or mock duck at a Thai restaurant, that’s gluten.

    Gluten is a big industry: 30 percent of people want to eat less gluten. Sales of gluten-free products are estimated to hit $US15 billion by 2016.

    Although experts estimate that only 1 percent of Americans – about 3 million people – actually suffer from celiac disease, 18 percent of adults now buy gluten-free foods.

    Since gluten is a protein found in any normal diet, Gibson was unsatisfied with his finding. He wanted to find out why the gluten seemed to be causing this reaction and if there could be something else going on. He therefore went to a scientifically rigorous extreme for his next experiment, a level not usually expected in nutrition studies.

    For a follow-up paper, 37 self-identified gluten-sensitive patients were tested. According to Real Clear Science’s Newton Blog, here’s how the experiment went:

    Subjects would be provided with every single meal for the duration of the trial. Any and all potential dietary triggers for gastrointestinal symptoms would be removed, including lactose (from milk products), certain preservatives like benzoates, propionate, sulfites, and nitrites, and fermentable, poorly absorbed short-chain carbohydrates, also known as FODMAPs. And last, but not least, nine days worth of urine and faecal matter would be collected. With this new study, Gibson wasn’t messing around.

    The subjects cycled through high-gluten, low-gluten, and no-gluten (placebo) diets, without knowing which diet plan they were on at any given time. In the end, all of the treatment diets – even the placebo diet – caused pain, bloating, nausea, and gas to a similar degree. It didn’t matter if the diet contained gluten. (Read more about the study.)

    “In contrast to our first study… we could find absolutely no specific response to gluten,” Gibson wrote in the paper. A third, larger study published this month has confirmed the findings.

    It seems to be a ‘nocebo’ effect – the self-diagnosed gluten sensitive patients expected to feel worse on the study diets, so they did. They were also likely more attentive to their intestinal distress, since they had to monitor it for the study.
    On top of that, these other potential dietary triggers – specifically the FODMAPS – could be causing what people have wrongly interpreted as gluten sensitivity. FODMAPS are frequently found in the same foods as gluten. That still doesn’t explain why people in the study negatively reacted to diets that were free of all dietary triggers.

  145. Rob MW

    “……….ban Muslim immigration……………….”

    Dot – don’t the cost of the rest but this one shouldn’t cost more than the cost an official stamp that says “fuck off”………………..plus $1,050.00 per hr for the public servant to work out how use the stamp.

  146. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Calli, don’t even begin to think of cooking for them. Buy some ‘gluten free’ stuff from one of those vegan organic places and make a little antipasto up of it all with gluten free bread as a side. Oh, and the old standby Kwinwa (Quinoa) as an extra salady thing with stuff in it. Add organic wine and you will get through the night.

    Erk though. I hope you like these people enough to do all of this.

  147. How hard would it be to get this gun permit?

    As hard as it is to get any other gun permit. Do you know the procedures that the Police go through before you are issued with or denied the permit?

  148. candy

    Erk though. I hope you like these people enough to do all of this.

    True enough. They should bring their own food and not impinge on their host. They must have that special food in the pantry and can just bundle it up and take it with them to visit their friends.

  149. Zippy The Younger

    I don’t have anything against black Republicans per se. However, many of the more prominent ones seem to be rather flawed characters. Allen West, for example, who is a loon. Carson, loopy on many levels, not just religious ones. Cain had that silly 9-9-9 tax plan which economic illiterate Art Laffer loved, a sure sign that it is just plain dumb. Colin Powell, complicit in a string of terrible foreign policy decisions by the Dubbya SCOAMF. Have there been any universally respected, unqualified success stories among them?

    Notice how he left out obama who is the loopiest of the lot.

  150. Stimpson J. Cat

    It seems to be a ‘nocebo’ effect – the self-diagnosed gluten sensitive patients expected to feel worse on the study diets, so they did. They were also likely more attentive to their intestinal distress, since they had to monitor it for the study.

    Maybe more people are Sanity Intolerant than I first thought.
    Curious.

  151. rickw

    Very rough:

    25,000,000 * 2% = 500,000

    500,000*$30,000 (lets assume this is an incentive payment to leave) = $15,000,000,000

    AFP Annual Budget = $2,000,000,000

    Assume it allows a 50% reduction in their budget, 15 years to pay it off.

    Given that the numbers aren’t an order of magnitude different, the approach would appear worthy of further exploration.

    15 years is also a pretty good payback period for a Government Project, what was the payback period on the NBN?

  152. sdfc

    You having a revolver night Rabz?

  153. Grigory M

    How hard would it be to get this gun permit?

    As hard as it is to get any other gun permit. Do you know the procedures that the Police go through before you are issued with or denied the permit?

  154. Grigory M

    Sinclair – can you please delete the comment in moderation that I incorrectly addressed?

  155. Rabz

    Only my favourite tracks, sdfc.

    And they’re over. Criticise the Beatles all you like, they knew how to write a snappy pop song.

  156. sdfc

    Lennon and McCartney’s solo careers tell us why they should have stayed together.

  157. Rabz

    Bluddee hell -this five channel stereo is as addictive as crack.

  158. Zippy The Younger

    Can someone saying it would be cheaper to deport Muslims (what? legally?) and ban Muslim immigration would be cheaper than just keeping an eye on the loony ones – are you guys serious?

    You tell us what costs do we put on the lives of those that are raped, injured or killed by jihadis and muslim criminals? ignoring the costs of mass surveillance, law and order and other incidental costs (lost productivity from shutting down the cbd during one single event). The costs of hosting muslims is astronomical and rising globally.

    You can charter 747’s fairly cheaply and boats even cheaper.

  159. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    True enough. They should bring their own food and not impinge on their host. They must have that special food in the pantry and can just bundle it up and take it with them to visit their friends.

    I mentioned a friend, above, diagnosed as gluten intolerant, and that’s exactly what he does.

  160. srr

    Oh No!

    Tim Blair shares news also shared on those, “people like Breivik”, patriot sites.

    Beware Blair!

    The Age has a shrink (O.K. “expert in visual imagery”), already diagnosing people, “similar to … Breivik, a far-right terrorist who killed 77 people” …

    MUBUTU! GET IN THE CAR!

    Tim Blair – Saturday, November 07, 2015 (4:25am)

    The Daily Telegraph reports an alleged child abduction attempt in Sydney:

    Parents pinned down a man until police arrived after an alleged abduction scare outside a Western Sydney school yesterday.

    The boy, 10, who was waiting to be picked up after school, screamed when the man grabbed and pulled him outside Bennett Road Public School in Colyton about 3.10pm.

    Alerted by the boy’s screams, parents of other schoolchildren rushed to help the child who was holding on to the front fence as the man allegedly tried to drag him away.

    The Sydney Morning Herald, however, found another angle:

    Sources said the tall, well-built man appeared to be intoxicated, and could have mistaken the child for one of his own.

    Really, SMH? Here’s the child with his mother:

    image [at link below]

    And here’s a pixilated image of the alleged attempted abductor:

    image [at link below]

    One of his own children? Longer odds than Prince of Penzance.

    http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/mubutu_get_in_the_car/

  161. rickw

    Parents pinned down a man until police arrived after an alleged abduction scare outside a Western Sydney school yesterday.

    Seems like an overly mild response, especially given the cultural tendencies towards young boys.

  162. Tel

    You tell us what costs do we put on the lives of those that are raped, injured or killed by jihadis and muslim criminals? ignoring the costs of mass surveillance, law and order and other incidental costs (lost productivity from shutting down the cbd during one single event). The costs of hosting muslims is astronomical and rising globally.

    Our government would feel the need to inflict mass surveillance anyhow, but without so many Muslims around they would be scratching around for another excuse.

  163. Hydra

    If people (non-coeliac) want to not eat gluten products for dietary reasons thats fine but there’s some rules

    1) its not intolerance its a choice
    2) dont enforce your ridiculous diet choice on others. Bring your own.

  164. srr

    The Beer Whisperer
    #1849250, posted on November 7, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    Read the whole thing; you will recognise many cats posts and opinions being presented as, “like Breivik”.

    Can’t see it, srr. I haven’t seen any Cats post videos of themselves toting guns and proposing violence on Muslims.

    Really Beery?

    You can’t think of any cats talking for hours on end about the importance and even duty to be armed, at all times, everywhere, and how often such armed people could have saved lives from Muslims going on murderous rampages?

    Really?

    And you’ve never read any cats that are Pro-Christian and Pro-Gun Ownership?

    Nothing like that at all … oh, or is it because the cat’s anonymous bloggers haven’t posted links to pictures of themselves with their guns (the guns they love to talk about), that they don’t have to worry about also getting the sort of treatment The Age is dishing out now?

  165. Zippy The Younger

    Greenpeace banned in India
    Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government has cancelled Greenpeace’s licence to operate in the country, citing financial fraud and falsification of data.

    The environmental group has denied wrongdoing and said the closure is a an attempt to silence dissent.

    Last year, Modi’s government withdrew permission for Greenpeace to receive foreign funding, saying the money was being used to block industrial projects.

  166. Makka

    but without so many Muslims around they would be scratching around for another excuse.”

    Besides the costs associated with a life subsidized by the taxpayer , this is also a cost we have to endure.

  167. Zippy The Younger

    but soylent green….

    Germany parliament votes to criminalise commercial euthanasia

    Germany’s parliament has voted to criminalise organisations that take payment for assisting patients to terminate their lives.

    It follows the parliament’s rejection of draft laws that, if passed, would have made assisted suicide fully legal in Germany.

    Critics said the new law does not make clear whether euthanasia is now a criminal offence in all cases.

  168. johanna

    Rabz
    #1849236, posted on November 7, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    What has come out about the NUW involves at least Kathy Jackson-grade theft from members

    Members only? Gillard, et al used to rip off the firms as well. The sums of “misappropriated” money being talked about aren’t gleaned from a small number of wukkas paying their $8 a fortnight.

    It’s an extortion racket. The TURC has proved this beyond doubt.

    Indeed.

    But since we are sharing cheering clips, how about this one.

  169. Zippy The Younger

    Number of unemployed Muslims more than twice national average

    MUSLIMS have jobless rates more than twice the national average, says an analysis of census data.

    And more than a third of Muslims had weekly incomes less than $400 in 2011, the report said.

    Released by the Immigration Department, The People of Australia study revealed an Islamic population of 476,291 — up 40 per cent compared to the 2006 census.

    Muslims had an unemployment rate of 12.1 per cent in 2011 while the national average was 5.2 per cent.

  170. Zippy The Younger

    Besides the costs associated with a life subsidized by the taxpayer , this is also a cost we have to endure.

    Just the savings of paying them endless benefits for a few years would cover the cost of shipping the lot overseas.

  171. cohenite

    Tel

    #1849292, posted on November 7, 2015 at 10:07 pm

    You tell us what costs do we put on the lives of those that are raped, injured or killed by jihadis and muslim criminals? ignoring the costs of mass surveillance, law and order and other incidental costs (lost productivity from shutting down the cbd during one single event). The costs of hosting muslims is astronomical and rising globally.

    Our government would feel the need to inflict mass surveillance anyhow, but without so many Muslims around they would be scratching around for another excuse.

    I don’t believe so. There are many forms of being conciliatory towards islam. The surveillance measures, as well as the general security/anti-terrorism laws being introduced here and in other Western nations specifically because of islam should not described as otherwise being inevitable even if islam were not the scourge it is.

    On the other hand if the slow, at times decrepit response to islam ultimately leads to not only the containment of this existential blight but also the eradication of the political correctness which has re enlivened islam, then that will be a good thing.

  172. Zippy The Younger

    This was obvious from the original video islamic state posted

    Black box data shows explosion downed Russian plane say experts

    It seems the theory the Russian airliner crash in Egypt was no accident is the right one. Experts say the black box data they have been able to retrieve points to an explosion and a probable bomb on board the plane. It is a blow to the Russians who did not want to admit their bombing campaign in Syria was costing them Russian lives.

    “The European experts who have analysed these black boxes confirm that is was not an accident. The black boxes have spoken. There are two of them in a plane: one that tapes the conversation of the pilots confirms that there was an explosion on board and the second black box that tapes the parameters of the flight confirms that this explosion was not an accident. There is no sign of a technical default or accident during the first minutes of the flight. Everything is fine during the first 24 minutes, the pilots talk, the plane reaches its cruising altitude and suddenly in a fraction of a second, nothing, a black flash, no parameter, no conservations any more,” said expert Arnaud Comte on French TV.

  173. srr

    Putin hints at military intervention in Libya and Yemen to ‘protect Russian interests’

    VLADIMIR PUTIN has issued his strongest warning yet of fresh military interventions in the Middle East, with lawless Libya and war-torn Yemen in the Kremlin’s crosshairs.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/617664/Vladimir-Putin-Russia-war-Libya-Yemen

  174. johanna

    Zippy The Younger
    #1849304, posted on November 7, 2015 at 10:26 pm

    Besides the costs associated with a life subsidized by the taxpayer , this is also a cost we have to endure.

    Just the savings of paying them endless benefits for a few years would cover the cost of shipping the lot overseas.

    Where to, exactly, Zippy? Are you proposing that we send gunboats to unidentified middle Eastern ports, and forcibly unloading them, then running away?

    FFS, get real.

  175. egg_

    Greenpeace banned in India

    Health hazard?

  176. johanna

    BTW, any chance of getting a break from “Muzzies are awful” tonight? It’s not the whole sum of human existence (except for srr and Zippy,) you know.

    In fact, talking about the other things reminds us of what we are defending.

  177. rickw

    Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government has cancelled Greenpeace’s licence to operate in the country, citing financial fraud and falsification of data.

    This is truly outstanding work, the Indians understand that Greenpeace is anti-human and would love to see them stay dirt poor.

    When will Australian ban Greenpeace?

    Should be relatively straightforward as the Indian Government appears to have already done all the legwork on building the case.

    (Strange how all the glimmers of Hope / Freedom / Liberty now come from outside of The West. eg. Modi and Putin have held centre stage this month.)

  178. Zippy The Younger

    Unemployment benefits are about $500/fortnight or about $13k/year, so we pay muslims about 100-200 million a year just in unemployment benefits. Add to that multiple claims on family benefits etc. Hundreds of million in mass surveillance and law and order and they easily cost us a billion a year.

    Cost of shipping overseas by chartered commercial a380 is about $1000 a head. So shipping costs are 500 million add to that about a billion or two in overheads for rounding them up.

    The exercise would pay for itself in about 3 years.

  179. egg_

    My ears are burning.

    They’re playing loony tunes?

  180. johanna

    Yep, Putin told Greenpiss to perform something anatomically impossible on themselves, and now Modi has done the same.

    They have seen what these people have done to our economies, and don’t want a bar of it.

    I see that alleged defenders of free speech and democracy are weeping and wailing to beat the band.

    Where were they when France’s most popular weatherman was sacked for claiming (based on data) that the climate alarmists were over-egging the pudding?

  181. Zippy The Younger

    Where to, exactly, Zippy? Are you proposing that we send gunboats to unidentified middle Eastern ports, and forcibly unloading them, then running away?

    Ship them to saudi arabia

  182. Leigh Lowe

    Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government has cancelled Greenpeace’s licence to operate in the country, citing financial fraud and falsification of data.

    Advantage Adani.
    I’ll see your ornamental snake and yakka skink blocking tactics and raise you a massive rogering from the country representing 1/6 of the world’s population.
    Your move Greenpeace.
    Accuse an emerging economy of, um …. “White privilege” perhaps.

  183. johanna

    Ship them to saudi arabia

    I can only hope that you are making a joke against yourself and your absurd fantasies.

  184. Fisky

    Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government has cancelled Greenpeace’s licence to operate in the country, citing financial fraud and falsification of data.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  185. Fisky

    Putin should start car-bombing Greenpeace. We need to see these people hurt, and hurt badly.

  186. Tom

    Imagine if the narrative was that she was just a junkie thief who got herself and her daughter killed by ripping off the scum of the earth:

    Murdered mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson had a $25,000 drug debt at the time of her death, police have confirmed.

    Ms Pearce-Stevenson, who was killed and dumped in NSW’s Belanglo State Forest in 2008, allegedly fled Alice Springs with money meant to buy drugs, The Advertiser has reported.

    The paper says NSW homicide detectives confirmed they had received the information through Crime Stoppers a fortnight ago.

    The caller claims Ms Pearce-Stevenson had been doing drug runs between Adelaide and Darwin before her murder.

    She took her baby daughter, Khandalyce, with her when she left Alice Springs.

    The two-year-old was killed shortly after her mother’s murder, and her remains were found dumped in a suitcase on the side of a highway in South Australia in July this year.

    No one has been charged over the child’s murder but Daniel Holdom will again appear in a Sydney court on Thursday charged over the murder of Ms Pearce-Stevenson.

  187. johanna

    Some bogus international outfit related to the UN fined the Russians a vast amount because of the Greenpeace vessel that Vlad’s lads impounded.

    They are still waiting.

    The holding of one’s breath for payment is not recommended.

  188. Snoopy

    Putin should start car-bombing Greenpeace. We need to see these people hurt, and hurt badly.

    He once had them done cold and let them go.

  189. Memoryvault

    “ but without so many Muslims around they
    would be scratching around for another excuse.”

    Yeah. We need to be able to justify the Digital Transformation Office, and all that money spent on a universal identification and tracking system. Remember the phrase –

    “In Australia, my voice identifies me”.

    Coming soon to an ATM near you. (And just about everything else).

  190. Zippy The Younger

    I can only hope that you are making a joke against yourself and your absurd fantasies.

    Not at all, history repeats itself, mass deportation of muslims is a regular historical feature.

    Norway alone deported 7000 in ’14. Obviosuly australia isn’t going to be a leader here but the mass deportations will come , it’s just a matter of time…

  191. srr

    johanna
    #1849312, posted on November 7, 2015 at 10:41 pm

    BTW, any chance of getting a break from “Muzzies are awful” tonight? It’s not the whole sum of human existence (except for srr and Zippy,) you know.

    In fact, talking about the other things reminds us of what we are defending.

    Emboldened by all your praise, johanna? Decided to join the liars and just lie, johanna?
    Because either you don’t read the same cat I read, Zippy has an awful lot of sock puppets, or you just plain lie about about how many cats are keen to keep up with the latest moves of Islam and their collaborators.

    Do you maybe want to address the treatment Fairfax is giving people for saying the same things cats say?

    You know, things like even questioning the intentions of this Pope is on their list of things that make you like Breivik?

    Plenty of respected cats have also been raising such questions lately. Do you even care that, ‘guns, God and what on earth is this Pope up to’, cats, are being likened to mass murderer Breivik by Fairfax?

    Or maybe you would like to talk about the abortion rate in Australia and the ridiculous power EMILY’s List members have in Government and in ‘normalising’ Full Term and Born Alive ‘abortion’ on demand, while also being the same pieces of Anti-Semite filth, trashing Israel, Christians but backing Muslims all the way.

    Here’s an idea – how about you talk about what interests you, let others do the same, and stop telling everyone what they can and can’t say … yeah, I know that pretty radical, for Leftists and EMILY’s Listers, but even they can bite their tongue and pretend to be normal, sometimes.

  192. johanna

    Oh, Lord, there is more to life than hating Muslims, and putting up more posts along the same lines just proves that you are a fanatic. Get a life, and some perspective. See my next post.

  193. rickw

    Ship them to saudi arabia

    Once Putin has finished in Syria, there will be an opportunity for them to replace the piles of bodies left by ISIS.

    The only hitch in this plan is that Assad would almost certainly not want them, which is somewhat telling.

  194. srr

    When will Australian ban Greenpeace?

    … mmm … that’s a toughy … before or after they ban Hizb ut-Tahrir and other terrorist organisations that even Muslim countries ban

  195. Zippy The Younger

    Takes uk gov how many months to tell us?

    Report: British passenger jet narrowly avoided missile in Egypt this year

    (CNN)A British passenger jet headed to the Egyptian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh narrowly “dodged” a missile in August, the UK media reported following a Russian jet crash in the same area this week.

    The Thomson Airways jet with 189 people aboard took off from London and was headed to the Red Sea resort, according to The Guardian.

    It said the jet came within 1,000 feet of a missile in its trajectory August 23, and went on to land safely. The paper said passengers were kept in the dark about the incident.

    A UK government spokesman confirmed the media reports, but he did not provide any specifics.

    “We investigated the reported incident at the time and concluded that it was not a targeted attack and was likely to be connected to routine exercises being conducted by the Egyptian military in the area at the time,” the spokesman said in a statement.

    In a statement, Thomson Airways said “an event was reported by the crew of flight TOM 476” on August 23. The statement did not describe the event, but said an investigation “concluded there was no cause for concern” and it was safe to fly into Sharm el-Sheikh.

  196. srr

    Why I Left Greenpeace

    https://www.prageru.com/courses/environmental-science/why-i-left-greenpeace

    Patrick Moore explains why he helped to create Greenpeace, and why he decided to leave it. What began as a mission to improve the environment for the sake of humanity became a political movement in which humanity became the villain and hard science a non-issue.

  197. srr

    Zippy The Younger
    #1849318, posted on November 7, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    Where to, exactly, Zippy? Are you proposing that we send gunboats to unidentified middle Eastern ports, and forcibly unloading them, then running away?

    Ship them to saudi arabia

    And Qatar! 😉 😆

  198. Stimpson J. Cat

    Read the whole thing; you will recognise many cats posts and opinions being presented as, “like Breivik”.
    Can’t see it, srr. I haven’t seen any Cats post videos of themselves toting guns and proposing violence on Muslims.

    The idea that anyone on Catallaxy could be mentally ill is quite frankly offensive.

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha

  199. rickw

    Oh, Lord, there is more to life than hating Muslims

    I don’t hate Muslims, nor I suspect does anyone else here hate Muslims.

    Hate is a powerful word that should not be bandied about. (Currently I am working on a team that is around 50% Muslim, and in fact the guy who I think is probably the most talented out of the whole team is a Muslim.)

    What there is is a simple recognition that Muslims do not like the society that is Australia because it is not Muslim and is not Sharia. In addition, they are prepared to express this dislike with acts of violence against the Australian People, now that is the only place that there is real hate in this whole story.

    Wishing to deport Muslims is merely a recognition of the fundamental incompatibility and is in fact a courageous and peaceful approach to defusing the powder keg that has been built by successive generations of Australian Politicians.

  200. rickw

    And Qatar! 😉

    Never forget Qatar!

  201. So yet again, m0nty has a problem with the black republican candidate.

    A point completely lost on oblivious Salvatore.

    Beery, should you ever don sandpaper gloves, you’ll be forced to promply present yourself at casualty with severe genital chafing.

  202. johanna

    Thanks to careful cultivation, my Azalea (mollis) variety have been superb this year. They are deciduous, and the flowers come out on the bare stems before the leaves. Every time I look at them, my “happiness index” rises.

    How about, my collection of the works of P G Wodehouse is almost complete.

    Or, my favourite niece has just had a baby, both are well, which is true.

    Unlike doom-mongering, basement-dwelling depressives like you, Mark Steyn leavens his analysis with optimism, wit, and a fair bit of discrimination in what he believes.

    Trouble is, every now and then you do come up with something worthwhile and distinctive – but who can tell? Resposting dozens of repetitive things from anti-Muzzie websites day after day has a deadening effect. I just scroll by.

  203. Memoryvault

    Wishing to deport Muslims is merely a recognition of the fundamental incompatibility and is in fact a courageous and peaceful approach to defusing the powder keg that has been built by successive generations of Australian Politicians.

    Too true, rickw. Peaceful deportation is a hell of a better outcome than angry vigilante mobs of Aussies, armed with baseball bats, bashing in the skulls of anyone even remotely resembling a Muslim, no matter how “moderate”. Which is where all this is going to end up, given a few more murders, drive-by shootings, and rapes. Didn’t Cronulla ring any warning bells?

  204. Leigh Lowe

    Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government has cancelled Greenpeace’s licence to operate in the country, citing financial fraud and falsification of data.

    I wonder if we might find that Greenpeace hasn’t been above using brown paper bags to delay key projects?

  205. Gab

    This is not going to end well.

    The Obama administration is moving to increase and accelerate the number of Syrian refugees who might be admitted into the United States by opening new screening outposts in Iraq and Lebanon, administration officials told Reuters on Friday.

    The move comes after President Barack Obama pledged in September to admit an additional 10,000 refugees in 2016 from Syria, torn by four years of civil war and disorder.

    The U.S. State Department confirmed the plans to open a refugee settlement processing center in Erbil, Iraq, before the end of 2015, and to resume refugee processing in Lebanon in early 2016, said spokeswoman Danna Van Brandt.

    The White House would not say how many additional refugees it may take in beyond the 10,000, but two senior administration officials said they are seeking ways to increase the number.

    “We want to be in a place where we can push out really ambitious goals,” said one of the officials, who spoke to Reuters on the condition of anonymity.

    https://cqrcengage.com/act/app/document/10163582?utm_content=buffer9b697&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

  206. johanna

    Emboldened by all your praise, johanna? Decided to join the liars and just lie, johanna?
    Because either you don’t read the same cat I read, Zippy has an awful lot of sock puppets, or you just plain lie about about how many cats are keen to keep up with the latest moves of Islam and their collaborators.

    Oh, boy. 🙂

  207. Obama is either evil or has a screw loose.

    I know which of those my money is on.

  208. rickw

    Unlike doom-mongering, basement-dwelling depressives like you, Mark Steyn leavens his analysis with optimism, wit, and a fair bit of discrimination in what he believes.

    I had a good laugh with one of the guys working for me yesterday:

    Me: “Can you have this finished by tomorrow?”
    Him: “Inshalla”
    Me: “Ok, so won’t have it finished by tomorrow.”

    We both had a good laugh!

  209. Jeremy Steyer

    Johanna I agree, hearing doom and gloom stories about Muslims all the time is depressing and repetitive.

    Have you thought about taking it up with the Muslims who keep making it so tiresomely necessary?

    Islam is a big deal these days. Might want to read up on it.

  210. rickw

    I wonder if we might find that Greenpeace hasn’t been above using brown paper bags to delay key projects?

    Brandis should look at the patterns of behavior in the Indian Governments case against Greenpeace, and then go hunting on the ones that are relevant to Australia.

    Guaranteed to hit pay dirt, it’s a “corporate culture” thing.

  211. srr

    Did they also do cartoons mocking the victims of MH-17?

    Russian outrage at ‘sacrilegious’ Charlie Hebdo cartoon on Egypt plane crash

    SATIRICAL magazine Charlie Hebdo has come under fire again for its trademark controversial cartoons after one mocked the deadly Russian plane crash in Egypt.

    One Charlie Hebdo sketch depicts a jihadi ducking as plane debris from the Russian airliner as it clatters down from the sky with a caption reading: “ISIS: The Russian airforce intensifies its bombing”.

    The other shows a victim’s skull with the words: “The dangers of low-cost Russia”.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/617666/Charlie-Hebdo-Russian-plane-crash-Egypt-Sharm-el-Sheikh-UK-flights

  212. Memoryvault

    Islam is a big deal these days. Might want to read up on it.

    It also helps divert peoples’ attention from the fact that the grubbymint is about to confiscate everybody’s super (target date – end of 2016). Not to mention implementing a 24/7 universal electronic tracking and surveillance system without anybody noticing.

  213. BrettW

    Much is being made about the new Canadian cabinet and the even gender split.

    Of the 184 Liberals appointed to office, 50 of them (or 27 per cent) were female. 15 of each sex were chosen for the cabinet. Several of the females are first time MP’s. The females had twice the odds to become a minister.

    Suggests to me some of the males were discriminated against.

    Now just imagine if that situation happened in a non political scenario. For example in a bank, corporate HQ or military organisation. The top 184 candidates (50 are female) for promotion are interviewed and and 15 of each sex chosen. If you read that story in the paper would you think it seemed odd ?

    The equal number debate is flawed. Like it or not women drop out of various occupations due to raising a family. Take the example of a batch of military or police recruits. Ten years after graduation you would expect far more females to have resigned than males. Twenty years after graduation even more. Same applies to other organisations yet the PC brigade expects equal numbers at the top ranks.

    Looking forward to when Labor keep to their pledge to have 50/50 male and female MP’s. Only problem is their normal recruiting ground for politicians is from the Unions. Oops ! Going to be a lot of women being put in top Union jobs soon to meet that pledge. Perhaps the ABC could do a show on the potential future female Labor MP’s 5 years from now. Rita Malia, Diana Asmar and the VIC tram lady are sure things based on recent performances.

  214. Oh come on

    Putin should start car-bombing Greenpeace. We need to see these people hurt, and hurt badly.

    No, stick with Polonium-210 poisoning. It’s got that undeniably Russian calling card, which of course they’ll deny. Which is all part of the joke.

    It’s hard not to notice that Vladimir Putin has an exquisitely dry sense of humour.

  215. srr

    The headline on the main page of The Age –

    Pell rumours among Vatican leaks

    Juicy secrets are getting harder to keep under Pope Francis.

    Click and you get this –

    Juicy Vatican secrets are getting harder to keep, even under Pope Francis

    Oh, the “Pell rumours”?
    If you bother to click and then read for a bit, you get to this –

    The Vatican’s Secretariat for the Economy on Thursday issued a statement about the books, saying they “appear to have included false and misleading claims” about the spending by Australian Cardinal George Pell, the secretariat’s chair. Finally and to avoid any doubt about the commitment of Cardinal Pell to cost management and control, the Secretariat completed the year well below its 2014 budget and was one of the very few entities to propose a reduction in spending in 2015, the statement read.

    But then they ramp the smears back up to eleventy, going hard on the envy peddle, racing past that small concession to relevant facts.

  216. Memoryvault

    It’s hard not to notice that Vladimir Putin
    has an exquisitely dry sense of humour.

    And plays a mean game of chess.

  217. Ripper

    Thanks Johanna for your TURC reports. I read them all.

    So do I , you are a legend Johanna !

  218. JC

    Driller

    I notice you’re conversing about me in my absence. Coward. Labor Royalty for sure.

  219. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It’s hard not to notice that Vladimir Putin
    has an exquisitely dry sense of humour.

    And plays a mean game of chess.

    IIRC, it was at the height of the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks, in the 1970’s where the observation was made that a nation, whose national sport was football, was trying to negotiate with a nation whose national sport was chess?

  220. Ripper

    So the Shit is going to hit the fan soon JC?

  221. Oh come on

    I wouldn’t get too excited over the banning of Greenpeace in India. The Supreme Court there, which has basically become a law unto itself and often lords it over the executive and legislature, will probably overturn the ban. With no legal pretext needed nor provided.

    This is what happens when your constitution is ridiculously overlength to the point that, to print a single copy, an entire forest must be felled to provide a sufficient amount of pulp to create enough paper.

    Really bad idea to let the bureaucrats take over after the Brits left. Really bad, indeed.

  222. JC

    Ripper

    For Australia possibly, but don’t forget that for the rest of the world lower commodity prices especially oil is a blessing.

    For Australia raw material prices are falling over the cliff, but then we have the rural sector that moves into a high gear with the lower Aussie and that may pick up the slack.

  223. johanna

    I also apologise for my numerous typos in the last TURC post. I was watching “Dial M for Murder” at the time.

    Is there a prettier, but less engaging, heroine than Grace Kelly? Hitch said that “actors are cattle” and looking at her, I can only say “moo.”

  224. JC

    This is so appalling, I’m speechless.

    A near century-old statute that gives New York state prosecutors unusually broad authority to prosecute securities fraud could prove a powerful weapon as Attorney General Eric Schneiderman probes Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) over whether the oil firm mislead the public and shareholders about the perils of climate change.

    The 1921 Martin Act, a wide-reaching state law, was dusted off in the early 2000s by former New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer who used it to aggressively go after Wall Street firms.

    Since then, it has been used to prosecute large-scale Ponzi schemes, major investment banks accused of misleading investors and other cases.

    Now, Schneiderman is wielding the statute in his probe of Exxon, the world’s largest publicly traded oil company, according to a source familiar with the matter. The source said other state laws could be used as well.

    Schneiderman subpoenaed Exxon on Wednesday, demanding extensive financial records, emails and other documents to probe the company’s knowledge and disclosures about climate change going back to the 1970s.

    In response to the probe, Exxon has said it has worked on climate science in a transparent way for nearly 40 years and has regularly disclosed the business risks of climate change to investors for years.

    The investigation comes on top of reports last month by Inside Climate News and the Los Angeles Times that the company’s own scientists had raised concerns about global warming decades ago that the company executives contradicted.

    Under the Martin Act, the state must prove that a company deceived the public by misrepresenting or omitting a material fact in the offering of securities.

    Lawyers say the act is unique in that no proof of intent to deceive is required to bring a claim, and prosecutors do not even need to show that anyone was in fact defrauded. The act allows for criminal as well as civil charges.

    New York State’s highest court ruled in 1926 that it covers “all deceitful practices contrary to the plain rules of common honesty.”

    The act “is one of the broadest anti-fraud statutes ever devised, at least in a democratic society,” wrote Eric Dinallo, a chief prosecutor under former Attorney General Spitzer, in the New York University Journal of Legislation and Public Policy.

    It has been used to extract large monetary penalties from finical institutions, said Jim McGuire, a litigation partner at the Dechert law firm in New York.

    “The Martin Act is a nearly empty vessel into which the AG can pour virtually any content that he wants,” McGuire said.

    Exxon did not comment on Friday when asked about the Martin Act.

    CALLS FROM CONGRESS

    U.S. congressman have called for the U.S. Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission to investigate the claims against Exxon as well, saying the company’s alleged failure to disclose scientific findings was similar to tobacco companies that concealed the harms of smoking.

    Democratic California representatives Ted Lieu and Mark DeSaulnier, along with other lawmakers, asked the U.S. Department of Justice and Securities and Exchange Commission to investigate Exxon. In interviews they said they hoped other state attorneys general would follow New York’s lead.

    “My view is that this should be even more serious than tobacco, if it’s the whole world that’s being harmed,” said Lieu.

    Lieu also circulated a letter to lawmakers citing an investigation by the Union of Concerned Scientists, a U.S. non-profit organization, that said other oil companies also had spread misinformation about global warming.

    Both the SEC and the U.S. Attorney General’s office in California declined to comment on whether they were pursuing investigations of their own over Exxon’s climate statements.

    Unlike the Martin Act in New York, prosecutors would have to overcome a “far higher bar” to bring a federal case, said McGuire, who previously served as chief counsel to former New York Governor George Pataki.

    Federal securities fraud under SEC rules require a showing of scienter, a legal term for intent or knowledge of wrongdoing.

    Daniel Riesel, a white-collar defense attorney at Sive, Paget & Riesel said that the tobacco cases actually highlighted the challenges in bringing federal enforcement actions against companies over climate change claims.

    “The tobacco companies knew they were selling a product that was killing people and they failed to disclose that,” said Riesel who specializes in environmental matters.

    “Here it’s not as stark. You’d have to be able to show that Exxon had knowledge – knowledge that couldn’t be questioned – that their activity was going to contribute to global warming in a way that would materially hurt the company,” he said.

    Oil and gas lawyers in Houston – the world’s energy capital – said they did not expect Schneiderman’s probe to widen much, if at all, to other companies or states.

    While Exxon and other major oil companies may have business in New York state, scores of other independent U.S. exploration and production companies have no operations there and probably could not be targeted because of jurisdictional questions, the lawyers said.

    (Reporting by Mica Rosenberg; Additional reporting by Terry Wade in Houston and Joel Schectman and Sarah N. Lynch in Washington; Editing by Noeleen Walder and Lisa Shumaker)

    Read more at Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/07/us-exxon-mobil-climatechange-case-idUSKCN0SW01M20151107#OEQidj3BFhFdCeQj.99

  225. I don’t have anything against black Republicans per se. However, many of the more prominent ones seem to be rather flawed characters. Allen West, for example, who is a loon. Carson, loopy on many levels, not just religious ones. Cain had that silly 9-9-9 tax plan which economic illiterate Art Laffer loved, a sure sign that it is just plain dumb. Colin Powell, complicit in a string of terrible foreign policy decisions by the Dubbya SCOAMF. Have there been any universally respected, unqualified success stories among them?

    How can you have a single universally respected, unqualified success story (look how high monty sets the bar for black Republicans) when Democrats attack all black Republican candidates, jurists, or politicians? The back stories of people like Carson, Rice, and Thomas are simply amazing; that they have emerged from the most difficult of circumstances to their current positions should be celebrated but they have been reviled in the media and elsewhere simply because they are black and Republican. I suppose this is a perennial reminder that the Democratic Party was the party of slavery, of segregation, of the KKK; the only black they can suffer is the one that remains at their command.

    What is your name?
    Republican Ben
    Slash!

  226. Oh come on

    I don’t have anything against black Republicans per se. However, many of the more prominent ones seem to be rather flawed characters.

    That might mean something if your judge of character isn’t routinely proven to be atrocious.

    Allen West, for example, who is a loon.

    Oh yes? Do go on.

    Carson, loopy on many levels, not just religious ones.

    Again, do go on.

    Cain had that silly 9-9-9 tax plan which economic illiterate Art Laffer loved, a sure sign that it is just plain
    dumb.

    An interesting pattern’s emerging here. Whatever m0nty says about someone, assume the opposite. So if he claims someone is an amoral sociopath, you know they are saintly and the finest of characters. If m0nty claims someone is a genius, they are actually as thick as pig shit.

    Colin Powell, complicit in a string of terrible foreign policy decisions by the Dubbya SCOAMF.

    Come on now, m0nty. Even by your standards, that’s lame.

    Have there been any universally respected, unqualified success stories among them?

    Certainly no upstanding figures like, oh, I don’t know, Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.

  227. JC

    Cain had that silly 9-9-9 tax plan which economic illiterate Art Laffer loved, a sure sign that it is just plain
    dumb.

    Monster is referring to Art Laffer as economically illiterate. Monster failed first year Monash economics.

  228. JC

    Laffer earned a B.A. in Economics from Yale University (1962) and an M.B.A. (1965) and a Ph.D. in Economics (1971) from Stanford University.

    Laffer earned degrees in economics as far as Ph.D level from two top three universities in the US and Monster who failed economics is the first year reckons Laffer is an economic illiterate.

    Anyone wanting to defend Monster from a re-ban again should speak up now.

  229. So Gillard supporter m0nscum considers adultery a fatal scandal for elected officials? Wow.

    You betcha. Just ask Salvatore. He supports Muttley in principle.

  230. nyone wanting to defend Monster from a re-ban again should speak up now.

    I think Salvo has gone to bed. I’m sure he’s up for a strong defence early in the morning, though, JC.

  231. JC

    You betcha. Just ask Salvatore. He supports Muttley in principle.

    Driller was a permanent commenter at the Lavatory. They loved the bartender there. If the lav hadn’t closed down, he’d still be there peddling Katterriate garbage.

  232. How can you have a single universally respected, unqualified success story (look how high monty sets the bar for black Republicans) when Democrats attack all black Republican candidates, jurists, or politicians?

    Blackfellas who wander off the leftfilth determined reservation must be punished. Of course, Muttley just threw it out there for no apparent reason, and Salvatore not only fell for it hook, line and sinker, but spent half the night defending him. Shooting fish in a barrel is fun.

  233. JC

    Whisperer

    People who support the Kenyan are in no position to judge Carson, so that counts Monster out.

    However the rest of the people here can.

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