Tuesday Forum: November 17, 2015

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  1. Arnost

    If more LDP MPs and senators join Parliament, then LDP policies won’t be dictated by DL alone. LDP will be more competitive

    What did they get in Canning?

    OK OK, Kennard is obviously a very high quality candidate and if he ran as an independent – it would be a no brainer. But DL ha proved himself as just another vote grubbing pollie no different to the rest of the feral menagerie in parliament.

    The principle that I endorse is that you do everything that benefits AUSTRALIA, and if you do a good job, then and only then do you get another go. The split second you start with the argument that you got to do something as that will get you re-elected… That’s the end. Bye Bye.

  2. Leigh Lowe

    My New Zealand mates here reckon their countrymen are doing their traditions a disservice by performing the Haka these days at the opening of a door.

    I tend to agree.
    Heaven forbid if the sacred Welcome to Country, mit der smouldering gum leafs, ever became over-used.

  3. Empire

    I think you lot are almost ready for my hypothesis detailing the reason for Christianity’s decline in the Western world being completely due to Santa Claus.
    Almost, but not quite. :

    Bring it on.

  4. My sister usually gives any men with the sack wearers a gobful.

    Ferpectly acceptable, Rabz. Most appropriate that a female leads the charge on that one. That makes youa very effective Plan B.

  5. Makka

    “Did Merkel let Paris happen?”

    ‘Paris’ began many years ago when the mayor of Molenbeek in Belguim forfeited his city over to moslem terrorists, thugs, drug pushers and gun runners.

    Merkel’s Paris hasn’t occurred, yet.

  6. Senile Old Guy

    Thanks for the glimpse of the promised land, Top Ender.

    That’s real click bait.

    You may not get the kind of action you are interested in.

  7. ISLAMIC State has hit back at hacking group Anonymous as the brutal terror organisation claimed to be “owners of the virtual world”.

    Cocksuckers. Nerddom belongs to nerds. Reavers can only claim reaverdom. A bunch of anonymous nerds are invincible on their own turf.

  8. BrettW

    Poll on the Drum. So 41% dont think should shoot them. Amazing.

    New South Wales police are now being trained to shoot armed extremists on sight. Do you support this policy?

    Yes 59%
    No 32%
    Unsure 9%
    3808 votes counted

  9. You may not get the kind of action you are interested in.

    Yes, I may not. May you rot in hell.

  10. Stimpson J. Cat

    Bring it on.

    Not now.
    Haven’t got the time.
    Christmas eve or day is more appropriate.
    It is ridiculous, but it is also plausible.
    But like all of my theories, it’s based on how I think and view the world, which is very different to your average punter. 🙂

  11. Infidel Tiger

    There was a Welcome To Country ceremony at the WACA the other day.

    “You’re welcome to this shithole, ya bastard” is what I should have shouted out, but instead I just looked around at everyone else standing their like spare dicks at a wedding.

    The bloke doing it seemed nice and wearing a possum fur coat on a 37deg day was brave.

  12. Makka

    “The bloke doing it seemed nice and wearing a possum fur coat on a 37deg day was brave.”

    He also sang the National Anthem in full.

  13. Obama: Incompetence Or Treason?

    As of late, there is a constant drone of political pundits, even from CNN, asking “Why is Obama doing this? Why is he saying that?” Even former President Carter, the weakest president of the twentieth century, has said “Obama is inept.” Does Obama live in his own little world? Is he truly inept or is there much more to this man that our miserable main-stream media didn’t tell us or bothered to find out?

    The media seems to be playing the “we’re confused card.” They scratch their collective heads and wonder in amazement about what Obama says and does. They actually look as confused as so many of us. Is he incompetent or does he have a plan he’s not divulging? Or, did Obama plainly announce his plan in 2008 to “fundamentally change America?”
    Why has Obama taken a far back seat in the war on terror? Why has Obama seemingly switched sides? Why did Obama eagerly criticize Bush II about the national debt and then go about doubling it? Why does Obama back the Muslim Brotherhood? Why does Obama have such animosity towards Netanyahu and Israel, our greatest ally in the region? Why is Obama insisting on importing Syrian ‘refugees’ contrary to fervent public opinion in spite of the Paris tragedy and then say “Are you telling me that the American people are afraid of widows and orphans?” Does this man think we are stupid? In short, why is Obama doing the opposite of what any amount of common sense would say to do?

    Former Defense Secretaries Panetta and Gates have both written books and have had numerous interviews testifying to Obama’s refusal to take advice from professionals in the military and his administration as to how to deal with terrorists and criminal regimes like Iran.
    Why did Obama work so hard on an Iran deal that gives that country a nuclear capability? Why is Obama shrinking our military to pre-World War II levels? Why is Obama releasing terrorists from Gitmo contrary to the requirement that Congress be given a 30-day advance notice and in spite of a congressional report that says about 30% of released prisoners have either returned to military activity or suspected of doing so? Why did Obama choose to create Obamacare even without one vote of support from Republican members of Congress? Why did Obama make ‘recess appointments’ when congress was NOT in recess? Why does Obama ignore the plight of Christians and Jews but is constantly pleading for Muslims? Why does Obama insist we have a broken immigration system when it is just a matter of laws not being obeyed? Why does Obama seem to divide the nation by race and class, white against black, rich against poor? Why does Obama routinely trash his own country on foreign soil?

    This is all classic Cloward/Piven, Saul Alinsky, Karl Marx, divide and conquer, create dependency and discontent, drown the nation in debt and break the financial back of the country. A collapsed American economy wipes out the middle class, small business and with it the West. Create a problem and then tell the American people you’re the only one who can fix it. Lie and keep lying until everyone believes you.

    Spread the gay agenda in the culture and especially in the military; sabotage their morale and morality and you help destroy the most powerful nation in the world. Dismantle the family, the Church, repeal the SECOND AMENDMENT and the mission is complete. Destroy the culture and you destroy the nation.

    Anyone with any sense can see the destruction of our nation is increasing in intensity. Unless an accomplice can complete the task, Obama has only a year left to conclude the work. He has much help from the likes of Kerry, Clinton and Valerie Jarrett, Obama’s Iranian-born senior advisor and communist mentor.
    This is not mere incompetence, but a carefully planned program of eradication. His father hated the West. Maybe that is why Obama ordered the bust of Churchill removed from the oval office. He has prepared his entire adult life for this end. A plan to crush what he hates, the West, Christianity, Israel and America.

    Incompetence or treason? You decide.

  14. srr

    Police link recent shootings at Hoppers Crossing, Wyndham Vale

    A SHOOTING on a marked police car in Melbourne’s west has been linked to another on a car less than 12 hours earlier.

    Seven people have now been arrested as part of the operation.

    An 18-year-old woman was charged with theft of and theft from a motor car and criminal damage by fire.

    She was bailed to face Werribee Magistrates’ Court at a later date.

    A 21-year-old woman was released without charge.

    Police executed warrants at Masthead Way, Werribee South where they allegedly uncovered stolen vehicles, trailers and other property including ammunition.

    A Nissan Navara believed to have been used in the shooting on the police car was found in a nearby paddock.

    … mmm …

    Reclaim Australia activist Philip Galea jailed over tasers

    They were legal, buy online, hand held small stock cattle prods.

    Magistrate Klestadt said the only appropriate punishment for Galea’s crimes was an immediate prison term.

    “The aim of the group is to defeat or destroy the multicultural aspect of Australia,” he said.

    Also, how many times was Lindt Cafe Murderer and other Muslim terrorist thugs given bail …

    Welcome to the ‘Rotherham Age of Australia’ … lock up your daughters because they won’t lock up the pack rapists, but they will lock you up for daring to protect and defend your own 👿

  15. New South Wales police are now being trained to shoot armed extremists on sight. Do you support this policy?

    It depends on their definition of “armed extremists”. Beardie weirdies with Kalishnakovs yes; peaceful anti-immigration protesters, not so much.

  16. Stimpson J. Cat

    May you rot in hell.

    No stress.
    If there is a Hell, I estimate 1000 years tops before I clamber my way to the top, just whisper my name in a despairing rasp and I’ll sort you out.
    Air conditioning, succubi, Robert Johnson acoustic, that sort of thing. 🙂

  17. GregJ

    If Turnbullians are starting to get nervous and want to let Abbott take the helm again before this idiot actually does one of the dozens of idiotic things he’s promised to do, or, we start suffering under his clownshow, we promise we won’t say another word about this little disastrous coup and the months of white anting, leaking, disloyalty and general betrayal beforehand.

    No way. I would never agree to that.

    I would want to wipe it in their grubby little faces for at least three days. I would agree however never to mention it again after that. [Byegones be byegones and all that.]

  18. Top Ender

    Reasonably amusing, and a bit brave, in The Australian:

    Islamic State, we need to talk about your flag
    THE AUSTRALIAN NOVEMBER 20, 2015

    Jack The Insider
    Columnist

    You black flag boys have issues
    Flag of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL). Source: Supplied
    Islamic State, we need to talk about your flag.

    Aside from the fact that black flags are so 8th Century, I am struggling to understand the point of yours.

    What is it exactly you’re trying to say? Is this some sort of weird tribute to Metallica? Besides, black in the desert is so impractical. It absorbs heat and light.

    Far be it for an infidel like me to tell you what to do but if it was down to me, I’d prefer a cool, soft beige number, maybe in a linen. Something that can breathe even under a laser guided bomb strike. Although to be fair, if one of those comes through the front door, the colour of your flag is the last thing you should be worrying about. Suffice to say, in that brief moment when you’re staring down the pointy end of a thousand pounds of high explosives, it’s not quite the same as the inconvenience of a visit from the Jehovah’s Witnesses. You’re in for a much worse day than that.

    You know what us Western apostates are like. If the house is a-rockin’, we don’t bother knockin’.

    I know communication skills are not your strong suit but take it from someone in the biz, having Arabic writing on a flag means you’re just not getting your message across to a broad audience. Do we read from the left to the right or the right to the left? It’s terribly confusing. And who drew that circle at the bottom? A third grade kid with a compass and the nub of a pencil could do better than that.

    If you’re trying to be a country, you have to have a decent flag.

    Other countries have been bold enough to do it. The Canadians switched fifty years ago and now they have one of the most recognisable flags in the world.

    Our friends across the ditch in New Zealand are having a flag competition right now and by the looks of things, they may go with a silver fern on a black background which means a clash with your miserable ensign. International law dictates the Kiwis get first dibs. They’ve been around longer than you. In fact everyone has been around longer than you. Even South Sudan, which only became a country in 2011, reckons you’re a pack of blow-ins.

    Your flag is all over the shop. Are you Islamic State, al-Qaeda or playing pirates in the Caribbean?

    So here’s what you should do. Hold an Islamic State flag competition. Have your lads scrawl away with crayon on some papyrus then submit them to the council of imams for the thumbs up. I’d say put it to a referendum but I know how much you guys hate participatory democracy.

    And not just black crayons. Give your boys some choices. The full 24 pack. All the colours of the ‘bow, dude.

    Think of it as a blank canvas. Start from square one. You’re an excitable lot so maybe something in a calming cerise or maybe a softer hue like a coral. Studies have shown, pink can pacify even the most violent mass murderers and you’d know better than me, you’ve plenty of those in your ranks.

    Avoid the writing. It’s tedious. When I look at a flag I don’t want to feel like I have to work. Use imagery. Symbolism. I know a cartoon image of the Prophet on your flag would make every single one of you guilty of blasphemy and there would be merry hell while everyone is running around with scimitars trying to knock one another’s blocks off, so that’s out, obviously.

    What about a photo of your boss, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi on your flag, right in the middle? I reckon he’d be a walk up start to win a Muhammad lookalike competition in any pub in the caliphate. Plus he has got that eerie psychotic look in his eyes. Like Charlie Manson with a neck beard. Powerful stuff.

    Anyway, it’s just something to think about. If you’re really pressed for ideas, you could do the full 180 and go with a white flag. Hold the writing and that stupid circle. Plain white. In fact, the more I think about it, you’re going to have to stock up on those. You’re going to need them.

  19. Senile Old Guy

    You may not get the kind of action you are interested in.

    Yes, I may not. May you rot in hell.

    Oops.

    Bit late now…but trigger warning!

  20. srr

    The Beer Whisperer
    #1862467, posted on November 20, 2015 at 7:06 pm

    ISLAMIC State has hit back at hacking group Anonymous as the brutal terror organisation claimed to be “owners of the virtual world”.

    Cocksuckers. Nerddom belongs to nerds. Reavers can only claim reaverdom. A bunch of anonymous nerds are invincible on their own turf.

    … psst … contrary to the Raver Protecting Myths, Reaver Nerds do exist, in large numbers, and they are skilled and very active.

  21. “The aim of the group is to defeat or destroy the multicultural aspect of Australia,” he said.

    What an arsehole. Way beyond his remit Anyone else would be a sacked.

  22. Plante Müller hacking into private homes?[GT]
    The Governing Michael Müller (SPD) should pour our pure wine instead secretly prepare the invading homes, says Gunnar Schupelius.

    A strange message made the rounds at the weekend: The Senate would authorize the police to enter private homes to house refugees, even against the will of the owner. I thought only of satire, then on a misunderstanding, because the Basic Law, Article 13, says yes: “. The home is inviolable”

    So I went on a search for the source of this strange message and found it. There is a “proposal”, which was apparently scattered by the Senate Chancellery in the round of senators. As Senate Chancellery is called the expanded office of the mayor. Conductor Björn Böhning (SPD).

    This “proposal” should lead to the universal law to protect public safety and order in Berlin (ASOG) is changed. In ASOG is regulated under § 36, when the police can not enter without a court order in a private apartment. In short, only “to avert imminent danger”, so to prevent serious crimes and combat.

    Said “proposal” adds the § 36 ASOG these new “paragraph 4” added: “The regulatory authorities and the police can enter to check the suitability for accommodation of refugees land, buildings or parts thereof without the consent of the owner, if the threat for the Prevention Homelessness is required. ”

    Clearly is here: The police can not enter private property without a court order in order to search for housing for refugees when these threatened homelessness. You can do that “without the consent of the owner”. And not only the police should be allowed the, but also regulatory agencies.

    This delicate “proposal” attracted little public attention. Only the Berlin FDP General Secretary Sebastian Czaja spoke up and spoke of an “open preparation for breach of the constitution”.

  23. and they are skilled and very active.

    Time to up the ante then. And deal with the differences.

  24. Stimpson J. Cat

    Your flag is all over the shop. Are you Islamic State, al-Qaeda or playing pirates in the Caribbean?

    Gay Muslim Pirate Party.
    I f?cking told you.

  25. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bambi is quite like Adolf in the last bunker spitting out stupid orders which have no relation to reality and which even his own guys are embarrassed about.

    Today there’s news that Bambicare may now collapse.

    ObamaCare Death Spiral: America’s Largest Health Insurer Ready to Bail

    Its gone from ‘we have to pass it to know what’s in it’ to the single most destructive economic act ever in the history of America. The middle class has been so raped by it that it has caused a world recession, or nearly so, because it has eaten all the discretionary spending power of the population for years. And the premiums are still going up massively.

  26. Gladstone QLD has a population of around 32,000.(sic) They will get the first intake of over 3,000 Syrian muslims.

    That’s an interesting number, Sal. Isn’t 10% the tipping point of Islamic lawlessness?
    So from this, can we surmise the government is deliberately fostering a breakdown in civil cohesion?

  27. Andreas

    Magistrate Klestadt said the only appropriate punishment for Galea’s crimes was an immediate prison term.

    “The aim of the group is to defeat or destroy the multicultural aspect of Australia,” he said.

    That’s a jailable offence now?

  28. Ragu

    He also sang the National Anthem in full.

    Beneath our radiance southern cross and all?

  29. Ragu

    Radiant

    Apple Jobs strikes again

  30. JC

    The signal in my car said I needed coolant, so I filled it up. Next day the same thing, so wifey took the car to the dealership.

    I got the report card about an hour ago. The hose leading to some area of the engine has worn, so they have to they have to take the entire engine apart to get to this part and then put it back together, which of course will require new seals. I get that.

    It’s also true it’s leaking because I found coolant all over the floor floor.

    Why are kraut engines so fucking complicated that a coolant hose replacement can cost $15,000… not $1,500 but $15,000.

    The car is 7 years old with 48K on the clock. I reckon it shouldn’t happen in a big name kraut car at such low mileage. I told them the maker has to share in the cost as I’ve driven their cars since the 80’s. They’re coming back and I reckon they should do a deal.

    I dunno if it’s true but I’ve heard the Germans have over complicated their engines while the Japs have kept theirs nice and simple all through their lines going right up to the top.

  31. Baldrick

    Your taxes at work – Lord Kardashian returns $32 million to the Y’Arts …

    The Turnbull government is giving back $32 million to the Australia Council, after anger at the Abbott government’s decision to strip $100 million in arts funding.

    It’s so far been all spend . Has his Lordship announced any savings?

  32. Toiling Mass

    Reaver Nerds do exist

    That explains where the 72 virgins come from.

    And is the Koran actually clear on everyone getting their own set of 72?

    After all, if faced with eternity, the virgins will only be virgins the first 72 times. For most of eternity they will be people who made it with a hairy uncouth death-cultist.

  33. Gab

    It’s so far been all spend . Has his Lordship announced any savings?

    No. He’s just undone most of the savings Abbott implemented.

  34. Stephen of Glasshouse

    Toiling..they get revirginated . Like a rejuvenation down under.

  35. Stephen of Glasshouse

    JC..in every kraut car, there is a little package hidden in the boot. It contains a jar of scented KY for the service that you are about to get.

  36. Stimpson J. Cat

    Look you lot can call me crazy all you want.
    The Western world’s only option is to unite and invade and occupy Mecca, expel all Muslims, and hold the city indefinitely.
    Every time there is a terrorist attack, another brick gets laid for Mecca Disneyworld.
    It is the only outcome where people genuinely don’t know what could happen.
    With the added bonus of every Muslim being reminded of their impotence every time they face Mecca to pray.
    Either Western civilization and culture is superior and righteous or it is not.
    Make up your f?cking minds.

  37. Bruce of Newcastle

    Stimpy – Here is a practical bit about Hell, as taught by Jesus, in case you want to know what its about.

  38. Infidel Tiger

    I’ve had similar experiences with Kraut cars.

    A fucking airbag sensor in the headrest cost me a motza. The mechanics were scathing at how complicated and hard to get at everything was.

    The electric parkbrake went and it was going to cost about $2k just for the part. I found it online from some Bulgarian who I’m sure was mafia, but got a good deal and imported it for $400.

    Never again would I buy and keep one out of warranty.

  39. Leigh Lowe

    There was a Welcome To Country ceremony at the WACA the other day.

    The bloke doing it seemed nice and wearing a possum fur coat on a 37deg day was brave.

    Don’t get me wrong.
    I don’t blame the blokes who trouser a lazy 500 for burning a few gumleaves and hopping around in a circle.
    If someone offered the job to me I’d be all over it like a possum coat.
    What pisses me off are the dicks in Government and sporting admin who have swallowed it whole.

  40. JC

    Stephen of Glasshouse
    #1862501, posted on November 20, 2015 at 7:31 pm

    JC..in every kraut car, there is a little package hidden in the boot. It contains a jar of scented KY for the service that you are about to get.

    Look I understand that. Part of the so-called prestige of owning one of those fuckers is understanding that you’re going to be date raped for services etc.

    But my point is that these fuckers are supposed to make superior cars, so why make the engines so complex and then how can a hose go in a car with such low mileage.

  41. Makka

    “The hose leading to some area of the engine has worn, so they have to they have to take the entire engine apart to get to this part and then put it back together, which of course will require new seals. I get that.”

    If one hose is deteriorated then it’s likely all are to some extent. So to avoid replacing them piecemeal (much more expensive), replace them all at once while engine’s out and apart.

    You might want to grill them and prove they haven’t had any Product Improvement updates on that hose Part #. Maybe google?

    Jap cars do well over 100k in our climate and still have very flexible coolant hoses. Must keep the coolant well balanced however.

  42. Toiling Mass

    Abbott government’s decision to strip $100 million in arts funding.

    But he didn’t strip it, surely.

    They just decided that the cool kids weren’t going to be able to just give it to their friends. Someone else would get a look in.

    The most annoying thing about the Turnbull government is that he is repeatedly putting me in the situation of defending Abbott when Abbott used to give me the shits.

  43. Ragu

    JC,

    To change the $10 oil filter on the Beamer I have to remove a whole bunch of plastic covers away from the firewall, a couple of struts from each side, then the covers from the engine, a couple of other shit that sits either side of the engine bay hiding the brake fluid and battery. Absolute prick of a job.

    Draining the sump is even worse.

    Personally I’d like to rip it all out and burn it

  44. JC

    If one hose is deteriorated then it’s likely all are to some extent. So to avoid replacing them piecemeal (much more expensive), replace them all at once while engine’s out and apart.

    Yea, that’s what he said too.

    You might want to grill them and prove they haven’t had any Product Improvement updates on that hose Part #. Maybe google?

    You mean that could possibly suggest the part is faulty?

    So are you saying Jap cars work best in our conditions? They’re so freaking boring though. Even the Lexus.

  45. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What pisses me off are the dicks in Government and sporting admin who have swallowed it whole.

    First Anzac Day service I ever went to, in civvies, started with a “Welcome to country.” Two local veterans walked out in protest.

  46. Arky

    JC
    #1862495, posted on November 20, 2015 at 7:25 pm
    The signal in my car said I needed coolant, so I filled it up. Next day the same thing, so wifey took the car to the dealership.

    ..
    Don’t let the dealer touch it.
    They charge out at $200 an hour.
    Find yourself a good mechanic.
    For $15000 you could hire a Queen’s council to hand file you a new engine from solid billet.

  47. JC

    To change the $10 oil filter on the Beamer I have to remove a whole bunch of plastic covers away from the firewall, a couple of struts from each side, then the covers from the engine, a couple of other shit that sits either side of the engine bay hiding the brake fluid and battery. Absolute prick of a job.

    It’s the same brand. Yea and the other annoying thing about this maker is that you require “special” oil, which from memory is around 35 bucks a liter. It’s not the money, but the rip off and the silly way they put the car together.

    They had the temerity to once charge me 25 bucks for a battery to the remote key as I was ignorant of the fact that you could get it’s equivalent anywhere for a couple of bucks.

  48. Arky

    So are you saying Jap cars work best in our conditions? They’re so freaking boring though

    ..
    Not if you put bald tyres on the front.

  49. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpy – Here is a practical bit about Hell, as taught by Jesus, in case you want to know what its about.

    Bruce, the difference between you and me is that you see Jesus as as a historical figure, and as an aspect of your God, knowable only by what scripture dictates he said or did.
    I have had the bastard in my head, giving me a holy mission, to spread the new interpretation of his Holy Spirit to the world.
    It was simultaneously the most ecstatic and peaceful feeling I have ever felt in my life, combined with feeling like an insane madman who should be put down.
    Now, was Jesus really possessing me and filling me with his Word and his Glory, or was it all a chemical reaction in my brain?
    How do you tell the difference?
    I have a hypothesis about God which is possibly the most hideous idea ever conceived by a human being, and that gives me comfort.
    Because it is like me. 🙂

  50. JC

    Arky

    I know what you’re saying but these contraptions are petty complex cars and it would be very hard to find or trust someone to do it outside of the brand dealership. All this shit is computerized and proprietary now.

  51. Makka

    “You mean that could possibly suggest the part is faulty?”

    Yep, or does not give sufficient life and when replaced, use this new part number. It’s not an uncommon way to pass on R&D costs to the customer. Look for a part # on the dodgy part and maybe a new one for the replacement item. But if there was a notice of somekind it will be on records.

    Jap cars are rigorously tested in our climate conditions particularly cooling systems, aircons, electrics and brakes, that much I know. Can’t say regarding the Germans.

  52. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’ve had similar experiences with Kraut cars.

    Germans only make good ovens.
    Think about it.

  53. Stephen of Glasshouse

    JC..German cars are very sensitive to deferred maintenance. Now, don’t quote me, but I have vague memories of euro cars shipped to OZ with coolant that was hydrophilic..Sea journey didn’t help..

  54. fark….

    VIDEO: Mass Migration still underway
    In case anyone was wondering of something changed with the EU and its approach to refugees. Total Inertia from our politicians. The people just watch in horror as their homeland is being invaded.

  55. Stimpson J. Cat

    So are you saying Jap cars work best in our conditions? They’re so freaking boring though.

    My son would rip off your arm and beat you to death with it for saying that.
    Skyline GTR traction control off.
    Enjoy.
    Drifting is a religion.

  56. Stephen of Glasshouse

    Remember the good old days when international car makers brought their vehicles down under for summer testing in the unrestricted speed zone NT ? Wonder how much money we lost by dumbing down speed zones?
    I know..some parts NT back up to warp speed.

  57. Arnost

    No. He’s just undone most of the savings Abbott implemented.

    That Abbott spent all his political capital bleeding for! We criticised Abbott that it was nowhere near enough.. But even that pittance is already gone. After just two short months. All hail Lord Turnbull.

  58. Stephen of Glasshouse

    Stimpy.
    Drifting is a religion.( snip )

    So are power poles

  59. Arnost

    All this shit is computerized and proprietary now.

    Most of this shit is there coz Climate Change.

  60. Top Ender

    Re this:

    Gladstone QLD has a population of around 32,000.(sic) They will get the first intake of over 3,000 Syrian muslims.

    Does anyone have a link to this? I did a search to no avail. Have some mates in Happy Rock so want to see what they say…

  61. Arky

    All this shit is computerized and proprietary now.

    ..
    Yeah, no.
    These modern cars are just about unbreakable.
    I pick them up cheap with 200 000km on them. Change the timing belt, fuel pump and hoses, then run them through to 500 or 600 ooo km with no problems.
    They don’t need “computer tuning” or any of that shit.
    They are fuel-injected and modern components are three or four times the life span of the old stuff, even the spark plugs and oils last so much longer.
    Just find your local Euro expert mechanic.
    Right now you are simply paying for the Dealer’s kids to go to private schools.

  62. john constantine

    http://www.australiacouncil.gov.au/news/media-centre/biographies/waleed-aly-australia-council-board/

    Their turnfilth hands squalid aly tens of millions more to fund the fundemental transformation of Australia.

    [wonder why their arts sector tonguebaths?. freestuff.]

  63. Stimpson J. Cat

    So are power poles

    I don’t do it, even though I drive a Nissan.
    And nomatter how many times he tells me he drives a Colt twin turbo, whenever he gets to the Colt I just start laughing:)
    I wish he would realize it’s just not practical to have up to five cars without human cloning.

  64. john constantine

    Was towing a field bin back home through mallee desolation with their abc radio on.

    The nagbat with the microphone was celebrating waleeds windfall arts council money.

    The grovelling federal arts minister explained that he saw himself as:

    “part steward, part student” of the arts community.

    Their abc ragefilth wasn’t mollified by the grovelling and redoubled the ‘gotcha’

    “the relationship had broken between the arts community and the government-hadn’t it?. Go on. say it, Abbott had broken the relationship.

  65. Ragu

    JC..German cars are very sensitive to deferred maintenance

    Kinda.

    The thing that kills them is the ‘lifetime warranty’ on the auto tranny fluid (good for only about 90 000 kms), not flushing the steering and brake fluid regularly and not changing the oil every year because that 5W stuff is shit.

  66. Makka

    Arky that works as long as you forfeit any claim to Warranty. JC may still have a shot at that with only 48k on the clock. Then there is a thing called ‘Policy’ where the local BMW factory rep doesn’t want to endure the embarrassment of JC going apeshit on social media. If you think you sniff a case , can’t hurt to try to get the factory involved . They have very deep pockets.

  67. blogstrop

    What do BMW charge to change the timing belt? Can you do it without disassembling half the motor?

  68. Infidel Tiger

    JC, this is your chance to exhibit an escalation master class.

    Don’t let us down.

  69. TC

    JC ,most mechanics will have the computer software for a seven year old car , if not they will do the work and then take it to the dealership to have the computer reset.

  70. Infidel Tiger

    What do BMW charge to change the timing belt? Can you do it without disassembling half the motor?

    You can’t change lanes without the krauts interfering.

  71. JC

    Arky

    From the little I know BMW service puts a car on the equivalent of an EKG thing whenever you take the car to them and they more or less determine the problem from a computer. The system is proprietary though, which means it’s not available to anyone outside the system.

    The fear I have is that I know shit about cars, much less knowing who a good mechanic is. If I choose a bad one, it turn out to be hell.

    Special oil? Pffzzzttt

    So that’s just bullshit? A high grade oil is good enough.

    Makka

    Thanks. I will get the part details then google it.

  72. Oh come on

    I know I’m coming in on the Thomas Friedman discussion a bit late, but there is an uncannily accurate Thomas Friedman Op/Ed Generator that can amuse for hours. Well…for ten or fifteen minutes or so. Just keep clicking “Generate new column!” – honestly, the NYT could save themselves a fortune by sacking Friedman and just using this site to publish op/eds under his name instead.

  73. srr

    Yeah, being a patriotic Australian in Australia is now a gaolable offence, but ….

    Australians accused over Islamic State missile-smuggling plot

    Two Australians are accused by the Kuwaiti government of being part of an Islamic State gun-running network that was trying to smuggle high-tech anti-aircraft missiles into Syria.

    The two Australians and a Syrian were identified as part of the network.

    They are not in Kuwait and are yet to be arrested, the statement said. It is unclear where the Australians are.

    The pair could face decades in jail or the death penalty if arrested and found guilty of terrorism-related charges in Kuwait.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-20/two-australians-accused-of-being-part-of-terrorist-kuwait-plot/6957330

    what’s the bet that if they do get found, it won’t be until they’re somewhere safe for them, like back in Australia.

  74. Ragu

    Blog,

    C’mon. are you that confident?

  75. Makka

    So that’s just bullshit? A high grade oil is good enough.”

    You bought the car, follow the man. recommendations. They may list ‘equivalents’ that are cheaper but require more frequent changing. I wouldn’t do anything that could void my warranty on a BMW.

  76. Bruce of Newcastle

    Stimpy – I can’t do much about biochemistry. We all have our stuff to bear (for me today its one of the worst hayfever days so far, I’m triple dosed to zombie level yet still dripping and sneezing, and sorry that its making me grumpy). My comment to you is to read Isaiah 53, a copy of which was found with the Dead Sea scrolls and has been carbon dated to before the birth of Jesus.

  77. Geriatric Mayfly

    It’s what’s inside the black box Stimpson, that gets the bums in the air and the devotees facing Mecca. A cunning plan is needed to spirit the whole caboodle away, and the place would soon lose its magnetism. Besides, the spiritual significance of the contents would be most revealing to the world at large.

  78. john constantine

    Their squalid aly, the abc is spending a billion dollars a year building themselves an islamic turnbull.

    [they will sellit to you cheap if you beg nice.]

  79. srr

    Gunmen launch attack on Radisson hotel in Mali: officials
    Posted 2 minutes ago
    Gunmen launch a shooting rampage in the Radisson Blu hotel in the centre of the Mali’s capital Bamako, security sources say.

  80. Leigh Lowe

    The Turnbull government is giving back $32 million to the Australia Council, after anger at the Abbott government’s decision to strip $100 million in arts funding.

    It’s so far been all spend . Has his Lordship announced any savings?

    Sinc trumpeted the ascension of Captain Agility on the grounds that “he hadn’t increased taxes.”
    Well he hasn’t … yet.
    However, his spendathon ensures one of two outcomes:-
    (1) taxes WILL increase in the short term; or
    (2) deficits will blow out and taxes will increase in the long term.
    Still happy with the Lord Kardashian coup, Sinc?

  81. blogstrop

    Me confident of doing car maintenance? No.

    I did a bit back when you used a timing light and turned the distributor to get it lined up right! Those days are long gone.

  82. srr

    Detained Syrians paid $US10,000 to flee to Latin America
    Posted 20 minutes ago | Updated 9 minutes ago
    A group of five Syrians paid smugglers $US10,000 each to travel through multiple countries before being detained for carrying false Greek documents in Honduras, their epic journey exposing a little-known southern smuggling route for Syrians fleeing war.

  83. Ragu

    So that’s just bullshit? A high grade oil is good enough

    Ask the pricks for the brand and the SAE. Could be 5W 30 or 0W 20. Who the fuck knows

    Demand and escalate

  84. JC

    Infidel Tiger

    JC, this is your chance to exhibit an escalation master class.

    Don’t let us down.

    Please, you underestimate me. I called BMW Australia immediately after the dealer’s conversation but they were closed. They’re eating half the cost. It’s already a done deal. ;-

    The trouble is that there’s really not a huge choice in he global car market these days. You go up a notch and there’s only the Krauts and the Japs. And the Jap cars are really dull, although i must say the Kraut cars aren’t really much better these days.

    I religiously changed them over every new model but hugely off cars these days . There’s much better shit to spend money on than boring freaking cars. I went for 3 years without a car in the early 90’s and never missed not owning one. When I needed a car for the weekend I’d just hire one.

    Which reminds me, where’s that imbecile who used to post comments here paranoid that he wasn’t popular on the road because everyone envied his explensive car. What a git.

  85. Mike of Marion

    Toyota sent their Landcruisers to Australia for testing from year dot. They are well received as near ‘bulletproof’ for Australian conditions.

    They (Tojo) gouge us but they are pretty good units.

  86. TC

    After seven years there is no warranty and the software is available to do the computer checks on a seven year old BMW .

  87. blogstrop

    But I did once keep a Euro car for a long, long time by using some mechanics who had fled the dealer and set up for themselves. It was a sweet arrangement.

  88. Makka

    “They’re eating half the cost. It’s already a done deal.”

    That’s their admission it is a product fault. They are probably dealing with others on this defect. Demand they pay 100%.

  89. Leigh Lowe

    the relationship had broken between the arts community and the government-hadn’t it?

    Who gives a fat rat’s clacker?
    The only relationship which should exist is between the artist and the audience.
    And, if there is no audience, the “artist” can go and flip burgers.

  90. Arky

    Makka
    #1862539, posted on November 20, 2015 at 8:02 pm
    Arky that works as long as you forfeit any claim to Warranty. JC may still have a shot at that with only 48k on the clock. Then there is a thing called ‘Policy’ where the local BMW factory rep doesn’t want to endure the embarrassment of JC going apeshit on social media. If you think you sniff a case , can’t hurt to try to get the factory involved . They have very deep pockets.

    ..
    For sure make sure you know the warrantee implications. Also the insurance implications in case of an accident.
    But as long as you have a good, qualified Euro mechanic doing the regular scheduled services, you could save yourself the angst of wondering if you are paying for something, shall we say, rather more ephemeral than just good workmanship with genuine parts.

  91. JC

    That’s their admission it is a product fault. They are probably dealing with others on this defect. Demand they pay 100%.

    Lol… I haven’t spoken to BMW yet. That’s Monday morning.

    True..asking for half the cost is behaving like a big mary wuss. I should demand 100% plus a loaner of the equivalent car for the duration of the repair.

  92. Makka

    There will be 25% min GP in the parts. So the cost (retail less GP) of parts covers those BMW and Dealer parts costs. Zero labour. Charge it to training. This pro-rata labour crap is just that. Bottom line the repair wouldn’t exist if the factory defect wasn’t present.

  93. srr

    The Turnbull government is giving back $32 million to the Australia Council, after anger at the Abbott government’s decision to strip $100 million in arts funding.

    That reminds me – who else saw TheirABC advertising (on TheirABC News 24), the actor who won some Government funded short film prize, and went on and on about how important it was to fund short films so that the film industry could see who else they wanted to make even richer … and that news in the same week that Tropfest suddenly got cancelled for missing 6 figures of the festivals money … you know Tropfest, where any broke nobody could get something on the screen, on their own, bugger-all, few dollars …

  94. JC

    Arky

    It’s very low miles but off warranty. I think BMW expires after 5 years. They do have a moral warranty though, which is what we will be discussing on Monday morning.

  95. Makka

    “plus a loaner”

    How did I forget that? BMW have deeep pockets.

  96. JC

    There will be 25% min GP in the parts.

    What’s GP

    So the cost (retail less GP) of parts covers those BMW and Dealer parts costs.

    Which means?

    Zero labour. Charge it to training. This pro-rata labour crap is just that. Bottom line the repair wouldn’t exist if the factory defect wasn’t present.

    Explain this too.

  97. Stephen of Glasshouse

    JC..FMD..when you ask for a loaner, specify a Merc. That’s escalation !

  98. Oh come on

    Why are kraut engines so fucking complicated that a coolant hose replacement can cost $15,000… not $1,500 but $15,000.

    What the fucketty fuck?? They are having a laugh. If you’re talking replacing the entire engine of a 7-Series V8, then *maybe*.

    Boring or not, I believe Lexus dealers charge like their Kraut competitors. Although Lexuses have the reliability of Toyotas, so you aren’t so likely to need big ticket item repairs.

    To be fair, Lexuses are bridging the character/cachet gap with their Euro rivals. They are most decidedly NOT Toyotas in appearance, quality of materials, switchgear etc. Whereas the first Lexus, the LS400, had a dash that wasn’t enormously different to that of a top model Camry. So they’ve come a long way. I reckon the new IS range is pretty sweet, too. Personally, I’d go for one of them rather than follow the C-class/3-series/A4 herd.

  99. Leigh Lowe

    Maybe you should go to Pick-a-Part over the weekend, JC.

  100. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mali siege

    It must be Friday. Someone should ask the Wally why these things always happen on Fridays and Saturdays.

  101. Magistrate Klestadt said the only appropriate punishment for Galea’s crimes was an immediate prison term.
    “The aim of the group is to defeat or destroy the multicultural aspect of Australia,” he said.

    That’s a jailable offence now?

    I was just thinking the same thing.
    Perhaps hizzoner Pat O’Shane wannabe could point out just where in criminal legislation is to be found the crime of “Aiming to defeat the multicultural aspect of Australia”

    Magistrates do tend to be pretty stupid. It is not for nothing that their decisions are unable to set legal precedent.

  102. Ez

    The Turnbull government is giving back $32 million to the Australia Council, after anger at the Abbott government’s decision to strip $100 million in arts funding.

    While looking at Media Super’s site earlier, came across this:

    The Producer Offset
    The Producer Offset is one of a suite of Federal Government initiatives introduced in 2007 under the Australian Screen Production Incentive designed to encourage film, television and other screen production in Australia.

    Administered by Screen Australia, the measure allows up to 40 percent of qualifying expenditure incurred in making Australian feature films (or 20 percent for TV and other non-feature film productions) to be refunded to Australian production companies by the ATO after completion of the project.

    What other business is rebated 40% of their costs, refunded by taxpayers?!

    These tax-eating leeches are getting another $32M? FMD!

  103. JC

    How did I forget that? BMW have deeep pockets.

    Lol… Their loaner program used to be really good. These days you only get the small riff raff stuff even if you own a 6 or 7 series. They had the temerity to loan me a 2 series a few months ago and I hated it. I complained before I got in but they told me the small shit is all they offer now.

    I think they make all their cars with the engine turnoff system these days. I hate it. It’s also a wank for the green look they want to portray.

  104. Makka

    GP= Gross profit. Profit at list price after all on-shelf costs taken up.Parts are sold to each Dealer from
    What I meant;

    BMW sell parts to Dealers at a negotiated price (bi-annually?) based usually on overall Dealer size and turnover. Parts are not the same price worldwide.

    Cost= Retail Price less GP. (Say $100 -$25 =$75) Cost price to the Dealer =$75.

    Every Dealer has a training budget for it’s Service Dept. Tell him to use it. The Service Manager will be dumping this kind of stuff in there regularly. He’ll also have a Policy Budget to dump hours in to placate obnoxious customers but who may have a case. That will be the Service Manager’s jurisdiction as well.

  105. Makka

    GP= Gross profit. Profit at list price after all on-shelf costs taken up.Parts are sold to each Dealer from
    What I meant;

    Type fail..

    “What I meant” at the very top.

  106. Makka

    GP= Gross profit. Profit at list price after all on-shelf costs taken up.Parts are sold to each Dealer from

    Fark.

  107. JC

    OCO

    You’re right about recent Lexus models. They actually have a model that you have to look twice to figure out if it’s a 7 series BMW. Sure, they copy everything but if it’s a good copy then who cares.

    I road in a Lexus about 15 years ago and the one thing I recall which hugely put me off was that they had identical window buttons etc as on my mother’s regular Toyota. Even the wiper and indicator sticks on the wheel were the same. Cheap bastards. I guess you’re saying that cheapness has been eliminated.

  108. TC

    I have never heard of a hose costing 15000 to replace , sounds like they will agree to 7500 and still be over charging , or they made a mistake and added a zero.

  109. JC

    He’ll also have a Policy Budget to dump hours in to placate obnoxious customers but who may have a case.

    That;s me.

  110. Caveman

    I might invite ISIS over to my place and listen to records. More MP3 now. But they might like to listen to Evelyn “Chamapne” King’s Shame , groove out to funky tunes and just find out whats getting them down. I give them a hug under the disco ball , kumbayah and all that.

  111. rickw

    I dunno if it’s true but I’ve heard the Germans have over complicated their engines while the Japs have kept theirs nice and simple all through their lines going right up to the top.

    I’ve seen a number of BMW’s with serious valve gear issues, have never seen this sort of issue on a Japanese engine. I think kraut engines either have very marginal top end lubrication and / or the contact stresses are right on the limit. I think kraut engineers have trouble designing for the variables of the real world. On that note I wouldn’t make any lubricant substations on a kraut engine.

  112. JC

    Thanks makka, invaluable info.

    TC

    It’s not the hose itself. The problem is getting to it as the dude explained to me they literally have to taken the entire engine apart. That was my beef about Kraut engines being very complex fuckers.

  113. Leigh Lowe

    I think they make all their cars with the engine turnoff system these days. I hate it. It’s also a wank for the green look they want to portray.

    Drives me fucking mad too.
    It seems to be a reset default every time you get out of the car.
    When you come back the cut-out is activated again.
    But here’s the thing.
    My VW NoX pump has a fuel monitor as part of the Multi Function Display.
    It gives litres/100 kms when moving and litres/hour when stopped.
    Mine uses one (1) litre per hour when idling, so all these 30 second cut-outs are totally futile.

  114. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Top Ender, youse’ll have to read me opus. I have a very good explanation for all of the things you mentioned re the Arthurian period. Secret Lizzie Business at the moment though. 🙂

    OJ Padel’s and Thomas Green’s work will give you a head start but I can take it all much further than either of them do. Some sleuthing amongst old Dark Age texts concerning a translation error long accepted by scholars that turns out not to be an error at all and one lucky break set me off on this stuff. Till I do it I can’t write anything else. Hairy wants it done. So do my friends who want me to novelise my early years. Won’t happen. Prefer my life today.

    Grigs there is a saying about arse and elbow. Consider yours and what you think you know of me.
    Fantasist LOL

  115. What do they really say at the friday sermon…

    VIDEO French Friday Sermon on Day of Paris Attacks

    It really is worth a watch.
    Multiply this by 100s of thousands of mosques and you get a good feel for the scale of the problem.

  116. JC

    It really is worth a watch.

    As long as it’s not Liveleak. Is it?

  117. Leigh Lowe

    On that note I wouldn’t make any lubricant substations on a kraut engine.

    He, he.
    I was wondering where my “substations” might be.
    Probably meant to read “substitutions”.

  118. rickw

    The Turnbull government is giving back $32 million to the Australia Council, after anger at the Abbott government’s decision to strip $100 million in arts funding.

    What a disgrace.

  119. rickw


    He, he.
    I was wondering where my “substations” might be.
    Probably meant to read “substitutions”.

    Yep, unless it’s electric!

  120. Re this:

    Gladstone QLD has a population of around 32,000.(sic) They will get the first intake of over 3,000 Syrian muslims.

    Does anyone have a link to this? I did a search to no avail. Have some mates in Happy Rock so want to see what they say…

    Top Ender: Gab was the source poster on the Cat. There was no link in Gab’s posted comment.

    Perhaps later on you may ask Gab for the source.

  121. TC

    There are a few hoses that you have to remove the motor to replace, I don’t know of any that you have to pull the motor apart to replace, get another quote , BMW charged me $2000 not to fix a problem, my mechanic fixed it for $200. The smartest mechanics work for themselves , not dealerships.

  122. Notafan

    Not dissimilar point to the 2007 article on the dar al islam, that it is offensive to muslims to be under the rule of the kufr, plus a mighty dose of envy and resentment that the western west has progressed, their ways are preferred and the infidels richer.
    Twenty five years later and the mufti is still looking to blame the kufr for it all.


    Old Sept 1990 article from the Atlantic on the subject of muslim rage.

  123. Stimpson J. Cat

    Maybe you should go to Pick-a-Part over the weekend, JC.

    Time to start driving wifey’s Jetta JC, safe in the knowledge she’s in the market for a share of the class action.
    You have bought her a car haven’t you?
    You don’t make her catch a train with the unwashed? 🙂

  124. Top Ender

    Top Ender, youse’ll have to read me opus.

    Ok, I’ll swap you one of my boring ones for one of your exciting ones.

    I will dredge up my friend’s recent Arthur book and post the title on the Cat. Good stuff.

  125. Beertruk

    Germans only make good ovens.
    Think about it.

    Stimpy, here is an anecdote as related to me by a mate that works at the Australian War Memorial.

    He over heard a bloke saying ‘look at that boys, thats off the ‘Old J*w Burner”. When he turned around, he saw a bloke with two young boys looking at what ever it was that came off the sub. Me mate said to the bloke that it was a ‘bit inappropriate’. It turned out that the two young fellas were his sons and that he had served on HMAS Ovens and said the that nickname for the sub was the ‘Old J*w Burner’.

    Side note. Sat next to a bloke on a aircraft trip years and years and years ago and he was in the RAN on subs. I said that I had heard a rumour that the engines on the subs had names. He confirmed the rumour and said that the names of the two engines on the sub he was posted to were ‘Klink’ and Shultz’.

  126. JC

    Coming off the riveting subject of car repairs and getting back to the topic of the month…. all month. Immigration.

    Here’s my problem with the anti-immigration views that I find hard to swallow.

    Sure it’s anecdotal in some way, but their numbers were a big.
    My parents arrived here 7 years after WW2. If there was ever a case to restrict a bunch of people it would have been for Australians to refuse entry to Italians, Germans or anyone from a country connected to those fuckheads due to their sterling behavior in WW2 and causing the war in the first place.

    However, Australia quickly forgot about it and let them in, which I would say is a testament to the openness of the people here and allowing bygones to be bygones. It’s a wonderful trait.

    I must confess I have a certain amount of empathy to those people fleeing Syria and the surrounding neighborhood because it’s a fucking hell hole on earth and if you can out, you’ll do your best to leave. I know I would. I don’t think it’s leftie to want to see these people come here and share the bounty at first blush.

    The problems.

    The welfare issue worries me greatly. Something like half the refs that come over are still unemployed after 5 years.

    The left will do anything to get them as a voting bloc.

    I’m not sure why, but there were no problems with Germans and Italians that came over in terms of resenting the host country and going postal like some of the recent people have.

  127. Oh come on

    I road in a Lexus about 15 years ago and the one thing I recall which hugely put me off was that they had identical window buttons etc as on my mother’s regular Toyota. Even the wiper and indicator sticks on the wheel were the same.

    That’s exactly it. The early Lexuses used a lot of switchgear from the Toyota parts bin and consequently copped a flogging from the Euro motoring press for being “soulless” (although they had to concede Lexus build quality was at least as good as the best from Europe – and of course Lexus reliability has always been class-leading). But really, you can’t blame people for being put off a car that has much of the same switchgear as a car that costs $100k less. And it just shouldn’t, either. This is something the Krauts understand.

  128. Makka

    Thanks makka, invaluable info.

    No worries.

  129. Combine Dave

    OCO

    You’re right about recent Lexus models. They actually have a model that you have to look twice to figure out if it’s a 7 series BMW. Sure, they copy everything but if it’s a good copy then who cares.

    I road in a Lexus about 15 years ago and the one thing I recall which hugely put me off was that they had identical window buttons etc as on my mother’s regular Toyota. Even the wiper and indicator sticks on the wheel were the same. Cheap bastards. I guess you’re saying that cheapness has been eliminated.

    My parents in law upgraded from a BMW to a Lexus; lots of the interior switches, wood grain, leather seats, sun roof etc are identical to the ones in an upmarket Toyota model.

    Still a very nice car though with much better comfort, ride, handling and sound deadening than any Toyota.

    It also compares pretty well with our friends beamers and mercs.

  130. Top Ender

    Lizzie:

    I will dredge up my friend’s recent Arthur book and post the title on the Cat. Good stuff.

    Christopher Gidlow. Revealing King Arthur: Swords, Stones and Digging for Camelot.

    Some notes on it.

  131. Stephen of Glasshouse

    JC.. good behaviour bond for refugees. 10 years then you can become a citizen.
    It works for the Swiss btw..

  132. Beertruk

    What pisses me off are the dicks in Government and sporting admin who have swallowed it whole.

    First Anzac Day service I ever went to, in civvies, started with a “Welcome to country.” Two local veterans walked out in protest.

    They are doing this crap at schools as well. Went to No. 2 Son’s awards night last week. A five to ten minute ‘welcome to country’ crap at the start. Then the Missus and I went to his graduation dinner at the school. Before the Mass started, another fricken ‘welcome to country’ episode. To my way of thinking, I was born here, I don’t need to be welcomed here.

  133. Infidel Tiger

    I’d just like to express my firm believe once again that Islam is a religion of peace.

    I can’t imagine what the devil is wrong with all these crazies pretending they are adherents.

  134. TC

    JC they beat the shit out of the italians and Germans first than occupied Germany for the next 40 years.

  135. Notafan

    Zippy Manuel Valls said he’d be booting more hate preachers.
    That creep came out with just about every cliché of muslim victimhood including the Zionist one. Not to mention the pack of lies and incitement.

  136. Combine Dave

    . They had the temerity to loan me a 2 series a few months ago and I hated it. I complained before I got in but they told me the small shit is all they offer now.

    I think they make all their cars with the engine turnoff system these days. I hate it. It’s also a wank for the green look they want to portray.

    Time to upgrade to a GS.

    http://m.lexus.com.au/gs350/?gclid=CJi444jhnskCFYixvQodz-8HQA

  137. JC

    JC.. good behaviour bond for refugees. 10 years then you can become a citizen.
    It works for the Swiss btw..

    Sure. The thing that worries though is that I once read a piece about Italian immigration to the US. I think it was Steve Sailer. Italian immigration there was pretty big. It took 80 freaking years for those of Italian descent to move from 80% D’rat to an ever so slight GOP support base. Eighty Years!

    Keep in mind that the left in the past were never so awake to these voting blocs as they are now. Tony Burka for instance has sold his dark black soul.

  138. JC

    JC they beat the shit out of the italians and Germans first than occupied Germany for the next 40 years.

    True, but they started streaming in almost as soon as the war was over.

  139. Stephen of Glasshouse

    Jc..I am partial to the thought of partial vote depending on mendicant status, but that would decimate the ALP

  140. Notafan

    The attitude of the Italians, at least, was very different.

    Watch Zippy’s video from Memri and you might get an idea why.

    I can’t imagine am Italian priest getting up in the pulpit in the 1950s or today telling his flock to violently overthrow the government because they were being humiliated.

  141. Andreas

    Didn’t the government re-introduce temporary protection visas? Why aren’t the Syrians being brought here under TPVs? There will be safe places for the Alawites and Sunni to go to when the war ends.

  142. TC

    Dad came out after the war , they didn’t have it easy , had to earn respect, the Aussies hated them at first.

  143. Makka

    ” If there was ever a case to restrict a bunch of people it would have been for Australians to refuse entry to Italians, Germans or anyone from a country connected to those fuckheads due to their sterling behavior in WW2 and causing the war in the first place.”

    I don’t think so. Many Germans and Italian POW’s spent years here during the war , many of them helping out in farms and food processing type situations. They behaved for the most part very well. They were valued. Many didn’t want to leave and stayed. They were Christians and the biggest issue was the language. Relatively easily over come. In particular, there were many Germans resettled in Australia for decades before WW2. Australia had a chance to have a good long look at Italians and Germans before opening the immigrant floodgates.

    They also went straight into work; construction, farming, local manufacture, wine making etc.

    See the vast differences we have with moslems on the most fundamental basis? They fkn despise us, we are infidels. Shit on their shoe. That’s one reason why they think we should support them with benefits etc.

    JC, like it or not you will never ever get the hate and violence out of Islam. Not ever. (dot will disagree but citing and article by an apostate moslem female is moronic when this level of cost and security is at stake).That’s the problem.So choices must be made.

    Think of it this way. Would you be happy if your daughter was living in an Italian, German or moslem enclave in NYC? It’s not an academic exercise. How much do you value lower Govt costs and the personal security for your daughter?

  144. Leigh Lowe

    I’d just like to express my firm believe once again that Islam is a religion of peace.
    I can’t imagine what the devil is wrong with all these crazies pretending they are adherents.

    Well, it’s obvious isn’t it.
    It is clearly a deep-cover Methodist operation aimed at discrediting the RoP.

  145. Combine Dave

    Didn’t the government re-introduce temporary protection visas? Why aren’t the Syrians being brought here under TPVs?

    Turnbull’s inner city dinner companions wouldn’t like it.

  146. JC

    Dad came out after the war , they didn’t have it easy , had to earn respect, the Aussies hated them at first.

    That’s true and perfectly understandable too. If I or my dad had fought against you or your dad in the war I’d resent you too. However that went away.

    Get a time machine and place this blog around 1950 Australia. I would bet the same things would be said.

  147. Infidel Tiger

    Dad came out after the war , they didn’t have it easy , had to earn respect, the Aussies hated them at first.

    A helluva lot easier coming out these days in Australia. I feel weird not being gay.

  148. Beertruk

    The average Italian did not want to get involved with the war to start with.

  149. Leigh Lowe

    Get a time machine and place this blog around 1950 Australia. I would bet the same things would be said.

    Well, der.
    Not possible.
    Malcolm Turnbull didn’t invent the internet until 1985.
    At least, that’s what he told Wyatt Roy.

  150. JC

    I feel weird not being gay.

    So you’re a closet heterosexual then. Adam Ant is too. He couldn’t get elected otherwise.

  151. Gunmen Take 170 Hostage at Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali

    Gunmen took at least 170 people hostage at a Radisson Blu hotel in the former French colony of Mali Friday, U.S. Embassy officials and a hotel spokesman told NBC News.

    The raid on the upscale hotel, near government ministries and diplomatic offices in the capital Bamako, comes a week after attackers killed 129 people in Paris.

    “They have locked in about 140 guests and about 30 employees,” said a spokeswoman for the Carlson Rezidor group, which owns Radisson, told NBC News. “So the hotel is locked down and there is no possibility to go out or come in.”

  152. JC

    How much do you value lower Govt costs and the personal security for your daughter?

    It goes without saying about my kid.

    True, I also understand the heavy duty government costs potentially associated with the extra security etc. That also worries me.

    But earlier you mentioned that they hate us infidels. I never got that impression about Turks for instance.

  153. TC

    The same things would have been said , I agree , I lived it in a small way, and if the welfare system was the same , and there was no money in being a victim and there was still free speech , it would probably work again.

  154. Infidel Tiger

    Let’s be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.

    — Hillary Clinton in a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations today

  155. Roger

    Didn’t the government re-introduce temporary protection visas? Why aren’t the Syrians being brought here under TPVs?

    +1.

    Put them all on TPVs.

    Once hostilities in Syria have ended, repatriate those who aren’t paying their way.

    We’ll have met our humanitarian obligations and will have served the nation’s best interests.

  156. Gay Muslim Pirate Party.
    I f?cking told you.

    Shut up, Stimpy. Stop being hilarious.

  157. Notafan

    Reality is that Italians and Germans were Christians.
    They went to the same churches, if they went to church. Lots of intermarriage too.

    They didn’t demand special treatment and put on the victim face.
    They certainly didn’t plot to blow up the MCG or attack an army barracks.

    Mafia aside.

  158. Combine Dave

    Six-Cylinder Midsize Luxury Sedan Comparison

    1ST PLACE: Lexus GS 350 F Sport

    Maybe The Ultimate Driving Machine’

    http://www.motortrend.com/news/six-cylinder-midsize-luxury-sedans/

  159. JC

    The same things would have been said , I agree , I lived it in a small way,

    I know what you mean. I always fought back.

    and if the welfare system was the same , and there was no money in being a victim and there was still free speech , it would probably work again.

    That’s about it. That’s a huge issue. It wasn’t a right winger citing the stat …50% of the refs coming over are still out of work after 5 years. Mark Latham said that on the Verdict show a couple of weeks ago. I’m not sure if it’s that they don’t want a job are simply can’t get one.

  160. Roger

    Let’s be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.

    – Hillary Clinton in a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations today

    She’s clearly forgotten being shot at in Tuzla by a Bosnian Muslim sniper in 1996.

    😉

  161. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimp junior just proving that pimping runs in the family.
    He runs up to the cop car waiting in the drive through and gives the lovely lady constables his balloon.
    Much gushing ensues.
    Walking back to the car Stimpy remarks “Nice work player.”
    Stimp junior replys “It’s manners Dad.”
    🙂

  162. Makka

    “But earlier you mentioned that they hate us infidels. I never got that impression about Turks for instance.”

    Every single refugee position we have available could be filled by persecuted ME Christians for the next decade with pretty much zero security on-costs and a big chance of successful assimilation. No need to take on cost or risk.

    You can bet the current generation of moslems hate us and prefer shariah given the choice.

  163. Notafan

    Turks who emigrated here earlier were much more secular and the Turkish government provided the imans who had to toe the line.

    The later waves bought the hate preachers who do and say what they want. .

  164. Roger

    Every single refugee position we have available could be filled by persecuted ME Christians for the next decade with pretty much zero security on-costs and a big chance of successful assimilation. No need to take on cost or risk. You can bet the current generation of moslems hate us and prefer shariah given the choice.

    But…discrimination!

  165. Notafan

    Muslim hatred of the west was a problem in 1990, nothing had changed, except for the worse.

  166. Makka

    But…discrimination!

    Yes, for better security and lower Govt costs!

  167. JC

    Makka

    I get the issue. I do. it’s like trading, why go for the really hard trade that may not work out instead of going for the easy one that has a better chance,

    If it’s refs we want, it’s far better to take the Christians outta there and fairer too than anyone else. I’d include the devil worshipers along with the Christians, as they’ve had a terrible time.

  168. DrBeauGan

    And Camelot has to be Camulodunum, in name if not location, Lizzie.

  169. US President Barack Obama arrives for ASEAN after reports of ‘terrorist threat’

    Kuala Lumpur: US President Barack Obama arrived in Malaysia on Friday on the final leg of a series of summits aimed at furthering Washington’s bid to rebalance ties towards Asia and challenge China’s increasingly assertive posture in the region.
    Security was unusually tight in the Malaysian capital with police citing unconfirmed reports of an “imminent terrorist threat”, following last week’s attacks in Paris and the downing of a Russian airliner over Egypt by Islamic State militants.

  170. TC

    What would Walid Ali do for a living if Muslims weren’t victims , say if they were just happy to start a new life. It’s not just Walid , every Muslim spokesman would be out of a job, that’s why it won’t happen , far to much money in victimhood.

  171. countries in the Balkans reject dark-skinned refugees[GT]
    Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia and Slovenia have only Syrians, Afghans and Iraqis to enter. Separation take border officials appear before after appearance of the refugees.
    Hundreds of refugees have gathered on Friday in the no man’s land between Greece and Macedonia. At the border at the Greek place Idomeni the police has started the fugitives to sort in groups of countries. The people who come from Pakistan, Sudan, Sri Lanka, Morocco, Liberia and the Democratic Republic of Congo, the entry will be denied. Even someone who does not have a valid passport, or has not been registered in Greece, can not enter.

    The new practice is applied since the night on Thursday and seems in agreement with Serbia to take place, Croatia and Slovenia. The admission of Serbia to Croatia is now possible only for refugees from Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq. All others are referred to by the Serbian, Croatian and Slovenian authorities as “economic migrants”. An examination of the reasons for flight will not take place. The rejection takes place solely on the basis of nationality.

    Volunteers on site report also found that the separation of refugees along the logic of racial profiling will made: Who “African” look for the border guards, is dismissed.

    Macedonia has, according to the news agency Balkan started Newsbeat with the construction of a reinforced with barbed wire fence along its border with Greece. Contrary to the insurance of the Macedonian Government that the country’s border does not want to close the border crossing from Greece to Macedonia had been closed at night from Thursday to Friday.

  172. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpy, here is an anecdote as related to me by a mate that works at the Australian War Memorial.

    The secret to life is this: anything is funny and absurd if you think about it long enough.
    However, it is not always polite or appropriate to laugh.
    And you will usually be the only one laughing.
    There is such a thing as laughing til you cry or crying til you laugh.

  173. JC

    Notafan

    Muslim hatred of the west was a problem in 1990, nothing had changed, except for the worse.

    I really don’t think it was as intense as it’s become now. I recall being told by an Indian guy who was my first boss that Muslims were aggressive people because of their religion. To be honest I hadn’t and I reckon the number of Australians wh0 even knew about Islam at the time could be counted on one hand. It really wasn’t a problem

    Part of the problem is that the Saudis exported their toxin to the other parts.

    There were scares about planes being hijacked etc during the 80’s by middle eastern fuckheads but from my recollection they were always associated with nationalist/socialist causes. (See how national socialism goes well together).

  174. Makka

    ” it’s like trading,”

    JC it’s exactly that ; risk vs reward. That’s why we should all be advocating for the common sense option, not some absurd hope and fantasy which makes a few brain dead Green/Lefties feel good over a Saturday morning latte.

  175. Stimpson J. Cat #1862320, posted on November 20, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    And you lot should not be scared of Gayness.
    Gay people can’t reproduce and create gay people.
    Only straight people can.
    Straight people are the reason gay people exist.
    Also glitter.

    Stimpson, please take up haiku

  176. .

    Stephen of Glasshouse
    #1862626, posted on November 20, 2015 at 9:05 pm
    JC.. good behaviour bond for refugees. 10 years then you can become a citizen.
    It works for the Swiss btw..

    LDP policy is like that with a 10 year wait (for PRs as well), but citizenship must be applied for, not automatic.

  177. Uproar in the Netherlands
    Muslim footballer denied reporter handshake
    [GT]
    The male reporter Nacer Barazite has no problem about it. The player’s behavior from FC Utrecht makes for violent reactions.

    The Dutch professional footballer Nacer Barazite from FC Utrecht in his native triggered heated discussions. The 25-year-old Muslim refused TV reporter Hélène Hendriks from Fox after an interview the handshake – for religious reasons.
    The male interviewer John de Wolf shook after the 4: 2 on Sunday against Twente Enschede on the other hand the hand. About This behavior has broken out in the social media discussion.

  178. .

    Arnost
    #1862460, posted on November 20, 2015 at 7:00 pm
    If more LDP MPs and senators join Parliament, then LDP policies won’t be dictated by DL alone. LDP will be more competitive

    What did they get in Canning?

    OK OK, Kennard is obviously a very high quality candidate and if he ran as an independent – it would be a no brainer. But DL ha proved himself as just another vote grubbing pollie no different to the rest of the feral menagerie in parliament.

    Can you point to a vote or a speech you really didn’t like?

    Then chalk them up against the ones you approve of.

  179. Leigh Lowe

    Muslim hatred of the west was a problem in 1490 1990, nothing had changed, except for the worse.

  180. Stimpson J. Cat

    Shut up, Stimpy. Stop being hilarious.

    You might as well ask the sun to stop shining or, as my friends used to say while playing basketball “Put a f?cking hat on Rumpelstimpskin, your hair of spun gold is blinding me and putting me off my game!”
    My only response was a full head (with minimum shoulder movement) hair toss, flicking the hair out of my face due to the nonexistent wind blinding me with it’s lushness.

  181. Reports: Mali hotel terrorists RELEASE some hostages… but ONLY if they can recite QURANIC verses!

    3 reported dead including 1 frenchman

  182. Notafan

    The 1990 article I linked was by Bernard Lewis.

    The hatred of the west must have obvious to those that were interested in the Middle East but most of us only became mildly aware of it was when world Trade was first attacked in 1993?

    Twin Towers coming down cemented that awareness.

  183. Leigh Lowe

    Let’s be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.

    – Hillary Clinton in a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations today

    No biggie for the Pantsuited Dowager.
    She’s been around people who take sex slaves all her adult life.

  184. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpson, please take up haiku

    Haiku?
    My Zen koans would really blow your mind.
    I once made a Frenchman throw up in his mouth simply from telling him my God and the Devil joke.
    He swallowed it and I smiled.

  185. TC

    There is no Muslim hatred of the west, it’s justifiable grievances , according to Malcolm .

  186. UPDATE: 50 hostages released so far after security forces stormed the Radison hotel in #Bamako #Mali

  187. Mater

    However, Australia quickly forgot about it and let them in, which I would say is a testament to the openness of the people here and allowing bygones to be bygones. It’s a wonderful trait.

    JC,
    I see your point but would it be beneficial to include the Japanese in the comparisons? Their treatment of our soldiers was different and, anecdotally, I think it took a little longer to forget. I’ll be controversial and suggest that the image of the Japanese back then, wouldn’t be terribly removed from that of a Muslims today.

  188. JC

    Mater
    At the time the Japanese would never have been able to come here under the White Australia policy.

  189. Besides, black in the desert is so impractical. It absorbs heat and light.

    Someone might care to explain to this Jack the Insider that black clothing, provided it be a fabric which is not too tightly woven, is better than white in the desert because black clothing takes heat from the body instead of reflecting it.
    See Michael Crichton’s Jurassic Park (1991):

    Humid Dallas air drifted through the open door. Ellie said, “Isn’t it a little warm for black?”
    “You’re extremely pretty, Dr. Sattler,” he said. “I could look at your legs all day. But no, as a matter of fact, black is an excellent colour for heat. If you remember your black-body radiation, black is actually best in heat. Efficient radiation. In any case, I wear only two colours, black and grey.”
    Ellie was staring at him, her mouth open. “These colours are appropriate for any occasion,” Malcolm continued, and they go well together, should I mistakenly put on a pair of grey socks with my black trousers.”
    “But don’t you find it boring to wear only two colours?”
    “Not at all. I find it liberating. I believe my life has value, and I don’t want to waste it thinking about
    clothing,” Malcolm said. “I don’t want to think about what I will wear in the morning. Truly, can you imagine anything more boring than fashion? Professional sports, perhaps. Grown men swatting little balls, while the rest of the world pays money to applaud. But, on the whole, I find fashion even more tedious than sports.”

  190. Grigory M

    Grigs there is a saying about arse and elbow. Consider yours and what you think you know of me.

    Hmm – I looked at my elbow (actually, both elbows) and nothing sprang to mind about you.

  191. candy

    I hope there’s more hostages to be released. How terrifying. Security forces going in early? hope so, the best way, there’s no other way with terrorists.

    Am i wrong to say there’s racism here? this dreadful situation hardly rates in the media – because it’s Africa?
    there’s terror and people suffering just like any other nation.

  192. Ragu

    I’ve seen a number of BMW’s with serious valve gear issues, have never seen this sort of issue on a Japanese engine. I think kraut engines either have very marginal top end lubrication and / or the contact stresses are right on the limit. I think kraut engineers have trouble designing for the variables of the real world. On that note I wouldn’t make any lubricant substations on a kraut engine.

    The vvt units aren’t the best

  193. Ragu

    Damn

    VVT units aren’t the best. so when your car, any car really, is in green mode and turning itself off at the lights then rattling the fuck out of itself on start up, expect more major failures the further you drive it.

  194. Mater

    Agreed JC. The fact that such restrictions remained in place is instructive.

  195. JC

    Am i wrong to say there’s racism here? this dreadful situation hardly rates in the media – because it’s Africa?

    No I don’t think so Candy. We relate to the people we identify with, which is why Paris resonates more with us than does something happening in Mali. It’s how humans are.

    It’s pretty cruel what’s happening there though because like all Islamic related hostage situations lots of people usually die.

  196. Grigory M

    Am i wrong to say there’s racism here? this dreadful situation hardly rates in the media – because it’s Africa?

    Mali is a former French colony – it seems likely there are French citizens among the hostages.

  197. Tel

    What would Walid Ali do for a living if Muslims weren’t victims , say if they were just happy to start a new life. It’s not just Walid , every Muslim spokesman would be out of a job, that’s why it won’t happen , far to much money in victimhood.

    Yeah, well there’s plenty of non-Muslims shopping around in the victimhood marketplace. I think we just have to call that normal these days, and shrug and accept it.

  198. Rabz

    LOL – my comment this afternoon so stung a certain fat leftist monotype who scribbles for the Oz that I actually earned a personal response.

    How honored one feels, I tells ya! 🙂

  199. candy

    It’s how humans are.

    I know, JC. I’m just trying hard to keep in mind the suffering there, and think and feel about it and not be blase because they are not like my culture.

  200. JC

    my comment this afternoon so stung a certain fat leftist monotype who scribbles for the Oz that I actually earned a personal response.

    How honored one feels, I tells ya!

    Explain. I missed it.

  201. Twenty-eight Terrorists Killed in 56-day Hunt in Xinjiang
    Xinjiang police have succeeded in disbanding a terrorist group after 56 days of fighting and fleeing during a manhunt in the far West Chinese region.

    On Sept. 18, a group of armed men attacked a coal mine in Baicheng county of Aksu prefecture, killing 11 civilians, three policemen and two para-police members and injuring 18 others, according to a statement from the publicity department of Xinjiang.

    They later escaped into the mountains. Police then began a daily manhunt that involved more than 10,000 citizens and police searching an area of 1,300 square kilometers.

    By Nov. 12, 28 members of the group had been killed during back and forth gun fights with police. One surrendered.

  202. Stimpson J. Cat

    Yeah, well there’s plenty of non-Muslims shopping around in the victimhood marketplace. I think we just have to call that normal these days, and shrug and accept it.

    We can’t all get ramps and special toilets built for us, and doors held open as we approach.
    If I start displaying my illness people either run away or go looking for a policeman to shoot me.
    At least in Africa they would treat me with respect and burn me as a warlock.

  203. Ragu

    Re; Ye olde immigrants

    If a subversive type wanted to come here and blow up the joint, it would have been a fairly simple job to intercept their cable telegrams or patched international trunk phone calls. If immigration didn’t like the cut of some guys eyebrows, it would be easy intercept the communications and to take them out of the game.

    Nowadays, well, we have the dark web, snatch chat, gaming consoles.

  204. JC

    He’s telling you.. begging you.. Please short the Euro

    The European Central Bank is ready to act quickly to boost anemic inflation in the euro zone, its president said on Friday, offering the strongest hint yet that the bank will unveil fresh stimulus measures at its Dec. 3 meeting.

    Mario Draghi highlighted changes to the ECB’s asset purchase program and deposit rate as possible tools to stop inflation from falling further below its target of just under 2 percent.

    Draghi said the risk had increased that the ECB would miss that target. “If we decide (on Dec. 3) that the current trajectory of our policy is not sufficient to achieve our objective, we will do what we must to raise inflation as quickly as possible,” he told a conference in Frankfurt.

    Read more at Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/20/us-eurozone-ecb-inflation-idUSKCN0T90RU20151120#Iy4ZqXFdGgr7I3SA.99

  205. Rabz

    Liberal Democrats – Your party, sir or madam, is neither liberal nor democratic.

    Despite Stimp’s magnificent tribute to the Waffler, I still think the Doc has bested him for comment of the page with that simple line above.

    Well said, that woman. 🙂

  206. Oh come on

    I’ve said before that if I were Syrian I’d move heaven and earth to get my family out of that shithole and somewhere safer. It’s the sales pitch that they’re offered (and eagerly accept – unsurprisingly) about taking refuge in a country like Oz – come to Australia, stick your hand out, demand a constant flow of money from the government – you’ll get it!

    This was never the deal offered to the postwar immigrants, and it wouldn’t have crossed their minds to clamour for it. I wouldn’t care who comes to live in Australia on those terms. If they’re willing to work like Trojans to overcome the difficulties of moving to a different culture and ensure a better life for their children, how could they not be a boon for their adopted homeland?

    Of course the majority of the Islamic immigrants were, and continue to be, offered a very different deal.

  207. H B Bear

    I got a snide Tweet out of Dumble a while back. I have dumped the subscription so I don’t have to suffer his moronologues any more.

  208. Arnost

    …But DL ha proved himself as just another vote grubbing pollie no different to the rest of the feral menagerie in parliament.

    Can you point to a vote or a speech you really didn’t like?

    Then chalk them up against the ones you approve of.

    How many times did Leyonhjelm abstain from votes on climate change, that started the bells ringing. The same sex obsession tells me what his priorities are, and then how many times were there headlines like: “Leyonhjelm threatens war” “Leyonhjelm threatens to block” “Leyonhjelm threatens to oppose”.

    He’s been given the responsibility to cast his vote according to the principles that he and his party’s platform dictates. That he withholds it, or worse threatens to withhold to score silly petty points; pander to his Greens mates or to get revenge or whatever – proves him to be as just another vote grubbing pollie no different to the rest of the feral menagerie in parliament.

  209. JC

    makke

    I’m tracking through the web and the chatter generally suggests the problem with the engine in my 6 series is well a chronic BMW problem with their V8s.

    Interesting.

  210. Rabz

    Explain. I missed it.

    JC – let’s put it this way – he’s been a particularly smug, sanctimonious leftist git of little note for many moons.

    Now that he’s realised ISIS is coming for his useless flabby backside, so they can duly get medieval on it, just as they did with those sheep in Paris, he’s panicking, badly.

    I simply pointed out all the above and the fact that he’s well and truly missed the bus (which departed the morning of September 12 2001).

    P.S. He is not bumble and he most definitely is not Charlie.

  211. Am i wrong to say there’s racism here? this dreadful situation hardly rates in the media – because it’s Africa?

    The left have taken this “racist” term and imbued with pure derogatory meaning, but really there are two sides to everything, and the other side to the racist term is that you like what is like you. Similarity tends to be preferential to dis-similarity.

    There is certainly a tendency to be less interested in what is not like you. That doesn’t mean it’s less important but maybe less relevant, nor does it mean you dislike it or hate it, which is the implication of “racism”. A couple of people here have tied themselves in knots trying to put a formal hierarchy on the relavance/closeness of allegiances. But really it depends on circumstances.

    The brain is an excellent focusing machine, if it didn’t it would be overwhelmed by sensory and information overload. So we filter out stuff that is less relevant. Calling it racism when it involves people that are very different to us, is just the way the left like to play the self-loathing removed from reality game of cultural marxism.

    The implication of cultural relativism is that we shouldn’t filter by preference: what a load of crap

    The reality is we are all racists in a non-derogatory sense. Nothing wrong with that. Evolutionary biology in action.

  212. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    It was an old saying of my father, Grigs, which he used about people who had absolutely no idea about something. In this case, your constant ‘fantasist’ fantasy about me. Continue with it if you must, but let me say here to others you are wrong.

    ————————–

    Top Ender – thanks for the reference to Gidlow’s newer work. I purchased and read his earlier book, ‘The Reign of Arthur: from history to legend’ and then the fool British Post Office lost it with a package of books I sent back to Australia from the UK. This set back my work and writing considerably and I lost heart in it for quite a while. I recall that Gidlow’s book was fairly favourably reviewed by Howard Weisman (an Australian Arthurian enthusiast/academic, who was/is a Federation Fellow in Physics in a Qld University I believe). I’m going from memory by saying that although Gidlow’s was a ‘true believer’ account it did have some very solid grounding in the whole of the pre-Galfridian material, which is the stuff I am most interested in also (although the post-Galfridian is also relevant). I think Gidlow may have been involved in the Arthurian Society at Oxford, no? Or was it Cambridge? Give him my compliments anyway regarding our shared enthusiasms.

    The ‘historical Arthur’ camp will not like my work. I am with the other camp, Dunville and the non-believers. All I can say till I finish this is that assuredly there was smoke around the whole topic; but it was smoke that came from a very different sort of fire, a fire which smoldered and blew across the UK and Europe for centuries. And I don’t mean just via the Samartians’ clouds of Marijuana. It is the salience of the legends to a wide audience that requires explanation, and also how the concept of Arthur as a defender of Britain arose, and what it arose from. I’ve followed a long and complex trail of clues to find these things out.

    Tell Gidlow that one clue lies unseen in C5th Gildas, another is there in the C9th Historia, but you can’t really get anywhere until you can sort out Arthur’s name; then the jig-saw fits together and the picture becomes quite apparent. I got lucky in finding that one. Oh yes, and I’ve found an obscure but revealing Roman Imperial Rescript no-one has, so far, ever noticed in the context of the end days of Rome. 🙂

    Now, the hell, I’d better publish soon or others will, especially if I go spraying ideas and information around on the net, as here.

    For those interested, a good introduction to the whole corpus is Mike Ashley’s “The Mammoth Book of King Arthur” 2005. Not too incisive from my point of view, but certainly covers a lot of the ground for newbies to these delightful mysteries.

    Probably turn-over time for the thread too.

  213. sdfc

    Where do you reckon the EURUSD is going JC. Parity?

  214. Makka

    Oh come on
    #1862721, posted on November 20, 2015 at 11:01 pm

    “I wouldn’t care who comes to live in Australia on those terms.”

    I would. A lot.Millions would still come benefits or not.

    OCO, that could also apply to hundreds of millions in Africa and the subcontinent also. The world is saturated with 3rd world shit holes millions are trying to escape from. The problem with your scenario is our borders would be swamped and once they are here, whatever the circumstance, they will never voluntarily leave. Never. What then? You honestly see any Australian Govt denying millions of them benefits? Boom- we’re fkd right there. Fait-accompli.

    We shouldn’t consider sacrificing the future of our nation because white/Christian/rich man guilt. It’s absurd. Just control the borders.

  215. Rabz

    Bear – I sympathise – bashing bumble is one of the most pointless activities on this planet. I’ve examined monocellular organisms under a microscope that were contributing more to the sum of human knowledge.

  216. john constantine

    Given that the left assure us only 2 percent of terrorism is islamic, those damn freemasons have to attack 49 hotels and take their people hostages……this week.

    [and is this thing in Mali another bit of friday after mosque shittiness?.]

  217. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    We relate to the people we identify with, which is why Paris resonates more with us than does something happening in Mali. It’s how humans are.

    I think it is a bit more than that. We expect this to happen in Mali, because of the African fault line on which the place is situated. Lunatic islamists are running riot all around that area; no-one sane would want to go there. In contrast, we all love Paris, have it in our cultural memories, and don’t expect it to become a bog Islamic hellhole (although some of us have been having expectations given the no-go areas that have arisen).

    Socialism coming home to bite them re this and the uncontrolled immigration.

  218. Makka

    “I’m tracking through the web and the chatter generally suggests the problem with the engine in my 6 series is well a chronic BMW problem with their V8s.”

    Possibly a common part on both models? Or the same OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer)

    BMW don’t make 100% of all their own parts. No Car Manufacturer does. Your hose may actually be made in Bulgaria by a moslem mafia family into drug smuggling for all you know.

  219. JC

    Where do you reckon the EURUSD is going JC. Parity?

    95 … 96 SDFC,

    There’s concerning chatter about debt levels in the oil&gas space around the world totaling approx $600 billion. If that goes Allah Akbar, who knows? The Fed may have to start talking about easing perhaps? Then the Dollar takes it up the poker.

    At the moment the Euro is on a weakening trend and barring no Allah Akbars it could make its way below parity.

  220. sdfc

    Debt levels are a problem everywhere including here.

  221. TC

    Victimhood is far to normal these days , once you take it on , how can you ever get out of it.

  222. Rabz

    Yes, sdfc – I get very ‘touchy*’ about “debt levels” as you so quaintly refer to them, for one major reason.

    Those fucking useless criminal corruptocrat parasites (aka politicians) who’ve run every western country into insurmountable levels of debt could at least of had the decency to suspend the thousands of taxes they also screw with while doing so.

    But yes I appreciate as a socialist, you’re little more than a willing masochist to their utterly preposterous sadist.

    FFS, are your ever going to wise up?

  223. Rabz

    *furious, pissed off, slightly less than gruntled, etc…

  224. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    And Camelot has to be Camulodunum, in name if not location, Lizzie.

    Mais oui.
    At beautiful Furness Abbey I asked the souvenir shop lady what people said usually after their visit to such an evocative place, a place that had sent Wordsworth into a poetic spin and flurry of words.
    “Oh, Camelot,” she replied. But then she smiled nicely, and added:
    “Everywhere is Camelot”.

    She was not wrong.
    There are actually a few more Camelot/Camulodinum names in England and Scotland.
    Although the Colchester one was probably an originator for the Arthurian Camelot.
    For various reasons to do with the arrival of Emperor Claudius on his elephant. 🙂

  225. sdfc

    Our problem is household debt Rabz.

  226. sdfc

    Of course as an economist you realise a surplus is the government taking money out of the private sector.

  227. Emma Alberici on Lateline (to interviewee Laura Tingle): [paraphrased slightly]
    “The perception is the Public Service is inefficient & bloated, whilst the Private Sector is efficient & gets things done…. How did we get to this point?”

    FMD. She says this as if it is unthinkable that the Private Sector is better for getting things done than the Public Service!

  228. BrettW

    Herald Sun :
    BILL SHORTEN has demanded that the Royal Commission into trade unions clear his name in its final report.

    Does this mean he wants TURC to ignore the evidence of the cleaners and mushroom workers who he negotiated such good deals for ? Or perhaps forget about the dodgy “memberships” during his time as leader. I doubt he even knew how many real members he had in AWU VIC as numbers were so over stated .

    Too late Bill. Cat is out of the bag.

  229. Rabz

    Agreed, sdfc – any kind of rate shock for example, would lay waste to the Sydney housing market. But I can’t see rates going up any time soon. Unless there is a global conflict.

    Am now (temporarily) debt free and loving it. Time to crank up the massive, fully negatively geared share portfolio, buying at historic lows. It’s a gamble, but am looking forward to it – here’s hoping it’s the traditional roller coaster ride.

  230. Rabz

    Of course as an economist you realise a surplus is the government taking money out of the private sector.

    Not necessarily. If the government has access to requisitioned funds, it could invest them wisely and return the surplus to the shareholders in the form of a dividend, as opposed to squandering it attempting to buy the votes of mendicants.

  231. Rabz

    The chances of that happening of course, is zero.

  232. Mullumhillbilly

    Infidel Tiger
    #1862425, posted on November 20, 2015 at 6:21 pm
    You would have to vote for Kennard. He is a fantastic candidate.

    If he wanted my vote he would have to go far Kennard to ensure that immigrants amongst the next 12,000 don’t include supporters of terrorist ideologies.

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