Away in a manger: it’s religious

 

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You have to laugh (or weep) but here’s the question:

When is a Christmas carol religious?

So let’s think about it:

Away in a manger/no crib for a bed/the little Lord Jesus/lay down his sweet head

Yep, religious

Or:

Silent night, holy night/all is calm/all is bright/round yon virgin, mother and child

Yep, religious

Or:

Oh come all ye faithful/joyful and triumphant/oh come ye oh come ye to Bethleham;

Come and behold him/born the King of angels/oh come let us adore him

Yep, religious

I working through these examples to give the heads-up to meddling, PC Victorian Education Minister, James Merlino (just another Labor hack), so he can understand that most Christmas carols are in fact RELIGIOUS (Christian actually, like Christmas).

And so his tortured explanation of not banning carols at Victorian public schools but banning all religious material during school hours is completely INCONSISTENT. 

He is just running to protect his arse because he knows that the vast majority of Victorians supports the singing of carols (and hymns)  in school and for a government to ban this practice will be seriously frowned on by the electorate.  Just pathetic.

(Here’s a true conundrum: younger sister working in a state junior school is running sports day. It is Ramadam.  It is a hot day.  What does she do about the small group of Muslim students who refuse to eat or drink during daylight hours?)

Here’s the desperate rationalisation from Jimmyboy:

This time of year is often referred to as the “silly season” and I haven’t seen a better example of this than the article entitled Christmas Carol Ban Is Out Of Tune With Society by president of the Young Liberal Movement of Australia, Simon Breheny.

This ridiculous piece is all part of a Liberal Party campaign to convince Victorians that we have banned Christmas carols in schools. Not only is this untrue, it is a shameful attempt to drive a wedge in our community.

Victorian schoolchildren — like my own daughters who attend government schools — can sing any Christmas carol they want at their school.

From classics such as Away in a MangerSilent Night, and Oh Come All Ye Faithful, to Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer and Jingle Bells.

The guidance given to Victorian principals this year was clear: schools can put up Christmas decorations or pictures of Santa, sing carols or decorate Christmas trees on school grounds, as these items have a cultural place in Australian society.

The guidance also stated that other activities, such as colourful celebrations during Diwali and candle lighting during Hanukkah, were not banned.

However, if an outside provider such as Access Ministries, or a volunteer group, wishes to come to a school and sing religious songs, this is considered Special Religious Instruction and must be done before school, after school, or during lunch time.

The guidelines exist to make it clear that there is no proselytising in Victorian government schools.

These lies are creating unnecessary angst within the community, and those spreading this misinformation should be ashamed. I wonder if these MPs and others who are pushing this lie have taken a moment to read the comments of those they are inciting on their Facebook pages? Do they support the bile of the United Patriots Front or English Defence League, who are now sharing their posts online?

The Liberal Party needs to come clean with its constituents: tell them the truth, and stop trying to score cheap political points in the lead-up to Christmas.

I hope you all enjoy singing your favourite carols with family and friends this Christmas … I know I will!

James Merlino is Victoria’s Minister for Education

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39 Responses to Away in a manger: it’s religious

  1. TCG of Kilsyth

    I take it James Merlino and his education thought police are not taking Christmas day off as that would be religious.

  2. Andrew

    Merlino’s backers in the SDA won’t be happy with this.

  3. Habib

    It’s a larger scale version of the inevitable confusion, angst and feeling of betrayal that Labor governments “suffer” when they appoint agenda-driven dingbats to the bench, idiotic busybody star chambers they’ve created, and statuatory authorities, and they inevitably act like an agenda-driven dingbat and make poor decisions, hold up projects, cost taxapyers a poultice, and are invariably a pain in the arse. Cretins who elect labor governments (not that the option is measurably better) have the same buyers remorse, but re-elect them a few times anyway. If stupid was of any value as a commodity we’d be farting through silk.

  4. Rayvic

    “I take it James Merlino and his education thought police are not taking Christmas day off as that would be religious.”

    But they are taking Christmas day off. It shows their hypocrisy.

  5. P

    From original post:

    Oh come all ye faithful/joyful and triumphant/oh come ye oh come ye to Bethleham;

    Come and behold him/born the King of angels/oh come let us adore him

    Yep, religious

    Yep, very religious

  6. Empire

    Breheny has run a great campaign. Turns out leftists don’t much like having Alinsky tactics used against them. Eat shit Merlino.

  7. Tel

    Global Warming is a religion, and they teach that in government schools.

  8. Herodotus

    Please take note of all those in government or their running dog media who want to de-religionise Christmas. Let’s see if the Happy Holidays crowd can go through 2016 without kowtowing to some islamic festival.

  9. David Palmer

    Actually James Merlino is a practicing Catholic opposed to same sex marriage and also voted in 2008 against the Abortion Law Reform Act 2008 .

    I agree with Judith’s comments about banning Christmas carols – pathetic, and also mention eliminating 30 mins religious education each week as part of the same trajectory, as will be the Victorian Government’s intention to undermine faith based schools desire to employ staff who accept the school’s faith position on ethical/religious matters. Talk about intolerance!

  10. James

    Will they also stop the boatpeople advocates and climate change alarmists from visiting schools to brainwash kids?

  11. .

    The guidelines exist to make it clear that there is no proselytising in Victorian government schools.

    Sure, but Christmas carols? Maybe the Wiccans and Hindus can have the day off, play sport or make something for the solstice or Purnima?

  12. stackja

    Christmas or Christmas Day (Old English: Cr?stesmæsse, meaning “Christ’s Mass”)

    So Christ’s Mass is not religious?

  13. Sydney Boy

    If you are going to have standards, might as well have two of them.

    The hypocrisy of the left. AGAIN.

  14. Chris M

    Fundamental atheists are OK with Moslems, Hindoos, Buddhists… pagan faiths like new age, Green and Santa Claus doesn’t bother them at all. Only Christianity gets their goat.

    They fear it. And they despise the culture of the west.

  15. BOB

    (Here’s a true conundrum: younger sister working in a state junior school is running sports day. It is Ramadam. It is a hot day. What does she do about the small group of Muslim students who refuse to eat or drink during daylight hours?)

    I can’t see the problem – ignore them.

    Better to give some thought as to whether during Ramadan you want to be in a long haul aircraft which is flown by observant Muslims.

    You will not find one aviation safety specialist who recommends going without fluids or food for what can be more than 12 hours.

  16. BorisG

    But the point is: they did not ban carols.

  17. Judith Sloan

    BOB: she told them they could stay home or stay in the classroom all day. Health concerns trumped everything that day – she had a duty of care to the kids and running around for hours and not drinking was just not on.

  18. Judith Sloan

    Boris G – I’m not sure that’s right; Merlino ducking for cover.

  19. JMH

    How come the Spaghetti Monster misses out on a gig?

  20. duncanm

    so we can expect a ban on Aboriginal dancing and singing to the mythological great serpents (et. al) by artistic groups, too?

  21. Kids need some standards to live up to ,they certainly wont get any from the gay/ green/ communist / laboral crooks .

  22. mareeS

    No proselytising in Victorian state schools? How about the religion of AGW/climate change?

  23. Andrew

    One again, “we wuz misquoted by the eebil RWNJ meeja thanks to a misinformation campaign by eeeebil Liberals.” Like the carbon tax.

    The fatwa against carols was issued Nov 24. It was reported in the extremely ALP-sympathetic anti Christian Age.

    He issued a “clarification” Dec 23rd?? I call BS.

  24. Ant

    I realise it’s Christmas, but don’t you hate these loathesome leftist bastards?

  25. Bruce in WA

    (Here’s a true conundrum: younger sister working in a state junior school is running sports day. It is Ramadam. It is a hot day. What does she do about the small group of Muslim students who refuse to eat or drink during daylight hours?)

    I don’t believe abstinence from water during Ramadan is to be enforced when to do so puts one’s health at risk.

    “God intends every facility for you, he does not want to put you into difficulties” (Quran 2:185)

  26. Bruce in WA

    I realise it’s Christmas, but don’t you hate these loathesome leftist bastards?

    Hate? Nah.

    I just wish them a severe case of explosive diarrhoea … and a sneezing fit.

  27. whyisitso

    I’ve heard on good authority that this year’s Carols by Candlelight at the Sidney Myer Music Bowl will be the last. However the Prophet’s Birthday will be celebrated there earlier in December.

  28. Chris M

    the Prophet’s Birthday will be celebrated there

    Instead of a nativity scene they can rape some goats in his honour.

  29. Galeoturpis

    There are a lot of non-Christian carols. The Nazis tried to get rid of the Christ in Christmas. Here’s an album.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/WW-II-German-Nazi-Era-Music/dp/B002HD6XJA

  30. Roger

    BOB: she told them they could stay home or stay in the classroom all day. Health concerns trumped everything that day – she had a duty of care to the kids and running around for hours and not drinking was just not on.

    Eminently sensible.

  31. Splatacrobat

    My dad’s favourite. He would sing it softly as we waited for father Christmas to come. I miss him.

    What a toilet of filth the left have given us.

  32. Slayer of Memes

    Notice how he only talks about how Christmas carols etc are perfectly acceptable THIS YEAR.

    That’s because the legislation only takes effect from 1 Jan 2016!

    So singing Christmas carols, Christmas trees/decorations in schools THIS YEAR is fine.

    Next year though, not so much…

  33. stackja

    The folks over at Cornell University are worried about “inclusive seasonal displays.” That’s academic code for Christmas decorations.
    Cornell warned students that some “winter holiday displays” are not consistent with the university’s “commitment to diversity and inclusiveness.”

  34. JohnA

    Chris M #1895601, posted on December 23, 2015 at 2:09 pm

    Fundamental atheists are OK with Moslems, Hindoos, Buddhists… pagan faiths like new age, Green and Santa Claus doesn’t bother them at all. Only Christianity gets their goat.

    Mr Merlino, life is inherently religious. We can’t escape it, since everyone has to answer for themselves the question: “Is there a God?” and it doesn’t matter whether your answer is Yes or No.

    Ultimately, we will all find out what the right answer is, but by then it will be too late to do anything about it.

  35. Turtle of WA

    I rang his office. I was told none of it was true and that that media always reports the negative stories.

    Negative stories. Gerbal Warming anyone?

    Even ‘Here comes Santa Claus’ is religious:
    ‘So let’s give thanks to the lord above/That Santa Claus comes tonight’.

  36. Yobbo

    I don’t believe abstinence from water during Ramadan is to be enforced when to do so puts one’s health at risk.

    It is. Oil rig workers frequently pass out during Ramadan because they refuse to drink water. One of the many retarded aspects of Islam.

  37. Not *all* carols are religious.

    Only the good ones.

  38. LOVO

    Ah, Xmas…. that time of year when we celebrate an Arabic couple seeking refuge…… and we sing carols about it ‘n all.
    Ah Christians, I sure do envy their ability to turn the other cheek…….and look over there…

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