Brexit: the Movie

“The single most important political decision any of us will make in our lifetime.”

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57 Responses to Brexit: the Movie

  1. mundi

    I’m not quite convinced the British aren’t sheeple. The IEA claim 48% of britons get their news almost elusively from the BBC. And then you look at BCC shows and…. almost no one on them is ever in favour of leaving the EU.

    Support for Brexit is at a lowly 37% in the polls.

  2. mundi

    I notice the EU is about to pass energy efficiency laws that will make most of the cheap toasters and kettles (like the $7.50 ones from target) illegal to sell. You will have to buy energy efficiency ones made of glass and ceramic (at 10x the price) if you are an EU denizen.

  3. handjive

    Most excellent.
    What price freedom?

  4. nerblnob

    BBC is going full tilt anti Brexit. Not even a pretence of balance. Brexit will cause war, pestilence, unemployment.

    The case for it is never presented except filtered through negative reaction. There is no distinction between the terms EU, Europe, common market, single market.

    The Times is following the same line.

    The public is invited to see Brexit as inexplicable lunacy.

  5. H B Bear

    Don’t let Lord Waffleworth see that thing about ceramic toasters. Lord Lightbulb’s commitment to Liberal principles doesn’t run very deep, if at all. His commitment to Maocolism is unwavering however.

  6. Ellen of Tasmania

    The fear campaign will probably win, which is so sad. They should get out while they can.

    I’m guessing the Scottish vote for staying in will be high and tip the scales.

    Poor old England – how the mighty have fallen.

  7. JohnA

    The public is invited to see Brexit as inexplicable lunacy.

    In the same way that a condemned murderer may be “invited” to take a seat in this electric chair, please.

    Yeah, right.

  8. struth

    A great little movie.
    God help us all, if Britain stays.
    The referendum is a monumental moment in the history of the western anglosphere democracies.

    I often don’t think we pay enough creed to the founding of the west, by Britain, and the consequences if they fail to leave, to all of us in the west.
    That would signal the end of the west.
    They are not some irrelevance we can scoff at.
    Britain pulling out will be huge for the west.
    They are more important to our culture and how we believe in ourselves, than those that dismiss them can imagine.
    Many a child loses it’s way after it’s mother dies.
    And to argue that we are mature enough to handle that, as a nation, is arrogance unearned.
    We are much more of a mature nation when we realise the importance of Britain, and it’s legacy to the entire free world

  9. Peredur

    Richard North, at his blog:
    http://www.eureferendum.com/
    has a revelatory set of four short movie clips that penetrate to the core the issues embedded in achieving Brexit. North trenchantly argues the dominating role of supranational entities such as UNECE, WTO, and UN in EU regulation, and indeed, globally Scroll down to May 9th for introduction.

    North asserts that Durkin’s film makes a “complete hash of its analysis on [EU] regulation.” In any case his presentation, particularly in Part 2 is relevant outside the Brexit debate, in that he illustrates much of the framework in which global commerce and relations are conducted. Sure, he is a feisty character but he is easy to follow and fearless in illuminating what for most of us is pretty arcane material.

    On whole the Brits have come blindly to a fork in the road. For the most part their principal guide is that heavily funded EU entity, the BBC and their grossly dishonest political class.

  10. Roger

    I’m guessing the Scottish vote for staying in will be high and tip the scales.

    And Wales. Also strong in London boroughs, home counties and university towns.

    There are two Englands, and if Brexit fails it signals the beginning of the death of the more traditional version.

  11. Stimpson J. Cat

    britons get their news almost elusively from the BBC.

    Most appropriate spelling error ever.
    Carry on.
    🙂

  12. Myrddin Seren

    David Thompson is using this quote to underscore his embedded copy of the film:

    “It was devised to make sure that the great mass of the people could not control government… ever again.”

    And that is why the protected classes deceived the British public in to voting for what they were assured was a trade bloc that would not impinge their sovereignty – and why the successors to those protected class betrayers are doing cartwheels to ensure Britain stays in.

  13. .

    Support for Brexit is at a lowly 37% in the polls.

    Shit. Sorry folks but this ain’t happening.

    France and the UK have nuclear weapons.

    If they (their leadership) wanted to leave, it would happen in an instant.

  14. Rabz

    Whatever happened to “splendid isolation”, FFS?

  15. At 14 minutes I couldn’t watch any more. I knew it was bad, but it’s worse than you can imagine.

    Anyone who likes the EU is a despot lover. Rabz doctrine now.

  16. Dot, who’s they? “They” will never want to leave. They will never voluntarily withdraw their snouts from such a golden trough. You can be such a deluded fool sometimes.

  17. .

    If they (their leadership)

    “If”, you smug, illiterate prick.

  18. gary

    Australia needs the Swiss style of direct democracy. A lot of the stupidity we see from the politicians would be eliminated.

    4) The electorate has a veto-right on laws: If anybody is able to find 50,000 citizens signing a form demanding for a referendum within 3 months, a referendum must be held. Laws do only need to find a majority of the national electorate to pass a referendum, not a majority of cantons. Referendums on more than a dozen laws per year are not unusual in Switzerland.

  19. .

    http://ldp.org.au/policy/democracy/

    Citizens initiated referendums

    The Liberal Democrats believe that Government is a servant and not a master. We believe that the people of a nation should be able to strike down what they see as fundamentally unjust or unfair laws (including regulations) by way of referenda.

    Citizen Initiated Referendums (CIR) allow for laws to be struck down in a two part process. First, a petition requiring the signatures of 2% of the eligible electors would be submitted to the Australian Electoral Commission. Second, following a period long enough for people to think the issue over, the electorate has the chance to vote Yes or No to abolish the law in question. The decision would be made on a simple majority basis. If the vote is no, there should be no opportunity to hold another referendum for a significant period (eg two years).

    This policy effectively introduces the citizenry as a part-time, voluntary “third house of parliament” that exercises a “citizen’s veto” over bad government policy. The politicians (the House of Representatives and Senate) would retain responsibility for introducing new legislation but in the knowledge that grossly unpopular laws, taxes or regulations could potentially be repealed.

    This reform should also be extended to State and Territory governments.

    The Liberal Democrats believes this would introduce a new discipline on politicians and bureaucrats and allow greater democratic participation by the general public. As such, this policy promotes both liberty and democracy.

  20. What is the EU but another rickety German Empire? How it melds with the neo-Ottomans should be interesting to watch. The two have gotten on okay before, of course.

    The imperialism which dares not speak its name uses democratic-seeming institutions and soothing renditions of the Ode to Joy to persuade us that it’s just about happy families not grim compulsion. But the compulsion is starting to show more and more, isn’t it?

    We need to be wary of forced conformity masquerading as cooperation and tolerance. Political figures of right and left stopped pronouncing that “marriage is for man/woman” and shifted to “if two people really love one another etc” almost overnight. Very shortly after that we were hearing of prosecutions of the intolerant and the homophobic.

    It’s starting now with nationhood. The moment is close when borders, integration, cohesion and such things which are fundamental to the nation state will be vile notions (they’re already impolite). Then they will become heretical, actionable beliefs.

    I can hear it now: “If a person truly feels his future lies in another place or culture, no arbitrary line should confine etc”. (Strings softly play Ode to Joy.)

  21. Peredur

    Further to my comment above, another voice writing clearly on this subject:
    http://mesynon.blogspot.com.au/

    “The Framers of the US Constitution perfected the British constitution for a federal republic. They established a federal government of strictly defined and highly limited powers, with the states and their people retaining their individual sovereignty.

    The European Project was from the first a project to construct by stealth a supranational power to destroy the sovereignty of the member states, under a government the limitation of whose powers would never be defined.

    So, no parallels.

    There are however things to be learned from the history of the United States. One of them comes today from Brian Reading, a veteran economist who has been commentating on global economics since the 1950s. Reading was the first economics editor at the Economist, and he was economic adviser to Ted Heath.

    He backs Brexit.

    Today Reading has a comment piece on the website of the Official Monetary and Financial Institutions (OMFIF) Forum.

    In it, Reading takes apart the ‘facts’ offered by George Osborne and the Treasury report: ‘Osborne’s claim to have presented “rigorous and objective” analysis to reach “robust” conclusions is exaggerated.’

    ‘The prediction by Mark Carney, the Bank of England governor, of a possible recession if the UK quits is similarly faulty.’

    But we know that, it’s been covered. What caught my attention instead was Reading’s conclusion:

    ‘The Treasury argues, correctly, that “openness” to trade promotes productivity, GDP and income growth.’

    ‘These are the advantages Adam Smith first described in 1776, the year of the American declaration of independence. The 13 states were fully aware of the consequences for trade and capital flows from Britain. They preferred making their own laws rather than obeying those made in London.’

    ‘This decision did not impair their long-term prosperity. The colonies rejected British appeasement offers. They faced severe short-term costs, including the Revolutionary war that they won.’

    ‘No one today would argue that the American states would have been better off remaining UK colonies. In a few years, long after the flawed Treasury report has faded from memory, no one will claim that the UK would have been more prosperous by staying in the EU.’

    George Washington: the first, and greatest, Brexiteer.”

  22. John Constantine

    If the american colonies had remained British, then abolishing slavery when Britain did would have avoided the costs of the civil war and the creating of a democrat voting welfare class.

    Remaining British colonials would have seen Canada become part of the u.s., depriving the French of their chance to take canadastan left.

    (Plus the French colonies of the carribean and south america would be proper cricket playing countries now.)

  23. Fred Lenin

    Interesting film . I knew it would be a dogs breakfast invented as it was by socialist elitists ,but the Soviet,sorry European onion is worse than I thought . Just shows that socialist regressive regulation is suffocating 100 odd laws for a bloody pillow? The EU soviet is a model for the elitists dream the u/n/communist ” one world government” ,the dream of many a socialist millionaire . You won’t even have to think .but you will be allowed to “vote” for the elitists party representatives ,on a computer that will record your “vote” . This is the leftists Nirvana ?
    Hopefully the British will vote to leave ,Trump will win in the USA , we will have a hung parliament with the ALA and other conservatives controlling the senate to stuff the elitists plans .this will be an irreversible setback for the world dominators ,people are waking up to the Scams .

  24. Ellen of Tasmania

    Just shows that socialist regressive regulation is suffocating 100 odd laws for a bloody pillow

    It would be interesting to know how much suffocating regulation we have around our pillows and other household ‘stuff’.

    The same people who squeal about ‘getting the government out of our bedroom’ are usually the same people who demand suffocating regulations for everything in the bedroom.

  25. cuckoo

    Norman Davies, in his massive tome Vanished Kingdoms makes the point that every effort to cohere a group of territories under a single rule eventually breaks down. He makes the point at such length, with such erudition and with so many examples that the reader is left unable to disagree. Davies ends the book with a quiet but confident prediction that the United Kingdom will eventually break up. If one is convinced by Davies, then one has to extend this prediction to the EU.

  26. Occam's Blunt Razor

    The Polling is actually 50-50 at the moment.

    One hopes the Brexit Get out the Vote is much stronger than the subservients.

  27. Occam's Blunt Razor

    I forgot to add – the Trend is your friend and it is in the right direction for BREXIT.

  28. slow&easy

    Occam’s Blunt Razor

    I forgot to add – the Trend is your friend and it is in the right direction for BREXIT.

    I sure hope so, I was a bit disheartened when I read about the 37% support, don’t know which poll that was?

  29. Fisky

    I can see Dot is in favour of Remain. Oh dear!

  30. Makka

    “I can see Dot is in favour of Remain. Oh dear!”

    Must keep those borders open!

  31. Makka

    It’s not a coincidence that the same perpetrators of Europe’s economic demise are now so wholeheartedly setting themselves to the task of delivering Europe’s social and societal demise as well. Having strangled and overburdened their economies with Socialist welfare and smothering crony capitalism, they are now turning their attention to destroying their cultures by allowing hordes of moslems entry only to become welfare parasites within their nations as well.

  32. Luke

    I wonder how many soviet agents helped to get the EU project started and how disappointed they are that it still survives in the capitalist West while thier own totalitarian regieme collapsed.

    The bunnies will vote how they are told on this though. Democracy is too much of a bother for them.

    It’s much of muchness anyway once Britain and the Europe acknowledge they are part of the caliphate.

  33. I wonder how many soviet agents helped to get the EU project started and how disappointed they are that it still survives in the capitalist West while thier own totalitarian regieme collapsed.

    Germany is getting its karma for unleashing Lenin on Russia. Germany and muzzies are traditional allies, and will soon fall to them. Karma’s a bitch. One day the EU bureaucracy will fall to the caliphate, and it will be bloody. There will be no tears for the snouts.

  34. StraightShooter

    Struth posted at 9:33 am:

    I often don’t think we pay enough creed to the founding of the west, by Britain

    This is probably the truest statement I have read in many years.

    I was born to European immigrant parents 5 months after they arrived in Australia. They became Australians from very early on and we spoke English at home. They made me feel, and all my life I have been, proud of my Australian heritage and proud of my British heritage.

    I really hope they wake up and Brexit, for all our sakes.

  35. Jock

    We have of course the same issues with the UN. If we are not careful the UN will make the EU look like a kindergarten.

  36. rickw

    Australia of course is simply “EU”ing itself.

    Google “Australian parking space sizes” and see the pages upon pages of rules and regulations around this simple issue.

  37. Roger

    Australia needs the Swiss style of direct democracy. A lot of the stupidity we see from the politicians would be eliminated.

    To be replaced by the stupidity of an uninformed electorate at the mercy of wild eyed minority groups bearing petitions.

    Let’s just keep the stupidity level at its lowest, safest level, thank you.

  38. Herodotus

    Martin Durkin’s film called The Great Global Warming Swindle so terrified the ABC that Tony Jones ran an extended evening session to discredit it. He first ran a heavily edited version of the film, which cut about 40 minutes! He then compered a panel of experts like Karoly to help shoot it down.
    We are still living with the threat of more adherence to idiotic expenditures that will do nothing to change the earth’s climate but will knobble working energy systems and export earnings.
    Whether Durkin is completely correct in his assertions, he is usually on the right track.

  39. Ubique

    Financial Times Brexit Poll Tracker

    Thanks Zatara. A lot more illuminating than the 37 percent support quoted earlier in the thread.

  40. herodotus

    The full Great Global Warming Swindle (see it here on You Tube) runs 1 hour 15 mins. I’m wrong above, the cut version (which I have on DVD) was about 20 minutes shorter, losing 27% of the film. The way the ABC went in for the kill was reprehensible and should never be forgiven or forgotten.

  41. Fisky

    Martin Durkin’s film called The Great Global Warming Swindle so terrified the ABC that Tony Jones ran an extended evening session to discredit it. He first ran a heavily edited version of the film, which cut about 40 minutes! He then compered a panel of experts like Karoly to help shoot it down.

    That wasn’t all. Jones also stacked the studio audience with Lyndon LaRouchie cranks and young earth crackpots to ask ridiculous questions in order to discredit the global warming skeptics. They were like, “How can climate change possibly be true if Carbon-14 has been discovered in coal???”

  42. Ubique

    Thanks for the Brexit video, Steve. What really caught my attention were the references to the post-war German economic miracle, the Wirtschaftswunder masterminded by West Germany’s Minister for Economics and free marketeer, Ludwig Erhard. He unilaterally ended rationing and price and production controls; and reformed the German currency. At uni, we were only told the miracle was due to a reconstruction boom and the Marshall Plan; and never that Erhard engineered it by getting the government out of the way and in so doing unleashing private enterprise, investment and innovation.

    I reckon the Wirtschaftswunder would make for an excellent Cat post.

  43. .

    Fisky
    #2029357, posted on May 14, 2016 at 4:13 pm
    I can see Dot is in favour of Remain. Oh dear!
    Makka
    #2029361, posted on May 14, 2016 at 4:21 pm
    “I can see Dot is in favour of Remain. Oh dear!”

    Must keep those borders open!

    No I’m not. The pair of you are lying cocksuckers.

    The EU was a good idea that has grown out of control and should be abandoned.

  44. Makka

    “The EU was a good idea”

    Yes, like so many good ideas. SSM, citizenship for a fee, dismantling OSB. Whatever could go wrong with such “good ideas” one wonders?

  45. JC

    Makka

    A loose confederation was always a splendid idea. That’s undeniably true. The free movement of capital, goods and people within the EU carried some fabulous positives, but it’s not true anymore and doesn’t work.

  46. Makka

    JC,

    Switzerland achieved all it has without being a part of that “splendid idea”. The EU has proven that bureaucrats are self serving leeches who if given enough power will ruin whole nations for their personal benefit.

    “The free movement of capital, goods and people within the EU carried some fabulous positives”

    Many of which could well have occurred without an EU. This only works if nations maintain absolute sovereignty and control over borders , taxation and trade. Those who signed up to the EU idea forfeited much of that.

  47. JC

    Switzerland achieved all it has without being a part of that “splendid idea”.

    Switzerland is itself a loose confederation, which is what the EU’s original idea resembled.
    There was also less of an economic and more of a security issue at the start. Europe was a little sick of Germany starting wars with its neighbors all too often and the view was that a more integrated Europe would see an end to the bullshit from the Krauts. It was also a new beginning, as each member, with the exception Britain, had something to hide from its past and wanted to put it behind.

  48. Diogenes

    We believe that the people of a nation should be able to strike down what they see as fundamentally unjust or unfair laws (including regulations) by way of referenda.

    So the Turnbull Govt strikes 18C (hahahahahah) , the greenfilth get enough signatures on a petition, referendum held – repeal struck down by low information voters.

    Budget is passed abolishing Family Tax A & B, childcare , healthcare etc etc rebates … the 57% vote it down.

  49. Makka

    “Switzerland is itself a loose confederation, “

    Before 1872, perhaps. However, since the adoption of the Swiss constitution it has been a sovereign Federal Republic and not a loose confederation.

  50. JC

    Before 1872, perhaps. However, since the adoption of the Swiss constitution it has been a sovereign Federal Republic and not a loose confederation.

    The center historically has been quite weak with a great deal of power residing with the cantons, which raise their own income and sales tax.

  51. Makka

    “The center historically has been quite weak with a great deal of power residing with the cantons, which raise their own income and sales tax.”

    Correct. The Swiss ensure that their Federal Govt is kept on a very tight leash. The key to their success.

  52. Makka

    “”Napoleon, Hitler, various people tried this out, and it ends tragically. The EU is an attempt to do this by different methods,” Johnson told The Sunday Telegraph.

    “But fundamentally what is lacking is the eternal problem, which is that there is no underlying loyalty to the idea of Europe.

    “There is no single authority that anybody respects or understands. That is causing this massive democratic void.”

    Johnson is a leading member of the ruling Conservative party of Prime Minister David Cameron, who is leading the campaign to keep Britain in the EU.

    The “Leave” campaign argues that a Britain outside the EU will be stronger, seeing Brussels institutions as bloated and believing that the Houses of Parliament in London should have absolute sovereignty.

    The “Remain” and “Leave” camps are currently tied at 50 percent each, according to the What UK Thinks website’s average of the last six opinion polls.

    A separate poll for Sunday’s newspapers suggested that Johnson is more trusted than Cameron by the public to tell the truth about Europe.

    While 45 percent said they trusted Johnson more than Cameron, only 21 percent said they trusted the prime minister more than his old rival Johnson, a ComRes poll for the Sunday Mirror and Independent found.”

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/world/a/31604326/eu-trying-to-do-same-as-hitler-says-uks-boris-johnson/

  53. Crossie

    The fear campaign will probably win, which is so sad. They should get out while they can.

    I’m guessing the Scottish vote for staying in will be high and tip the scales.

    Poor old England – how the mighty have fallen.

    When you’ve voted an ISIS sympathiser for mayor of London it’s all over. The British have realised that they are strangers in their own land and being part of a bigger entity makes them feel less strange. They can see that the rest of Europe is in the same boat and that promotes fellow feeling.

    This will be the same as waving a white flag to history.

  54. Crossie

    “”Napoleon, Hitler, various people tried this out, and it ends tragically. The EU is an attempt to do this by different methods,” Johnson told The Sunday Telegraph.

    Napoleon and Hitler were conquest attempts, this is capitulation.

  55. T Bull

    What i wouldnt give to see a smilar review of Australian levels of regulation.
    Whilst our beloved Turncoat tells us givernment is all about innovation…ffs!

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