Monday Forum: June 6, 2016

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575 Responses to Monday Forum: June 6, 2016

  1. egg_

    That may have been the submitted question, but not as asked on the night.

    Checked their facebook link and the video and text agree, but the supplementary question isn’t covered.

  2. Armadillo

    if their story has any cred at all, that is

    Eggy, went to lunch with Mum for Dads Anniversary today. She’s getting close to 80, and was born here and stayed here. If she said Dr Wakeford was sitting next to her, you can bank on it.

    I’d give it zero Cred. Can’t think of anywhere you wouldn’t get reception and no landline 20 km out of town. What is it. A vacant block?

  3. calli

    Was she the one who took ages to ask the question or something?

    Yes.

    To me she looked a little sheepish and embarassed. Had she been my child, I would have thought…hmmmm. Trust but verify.

  4. Myrddin Seren

    One for the history fans:

    Russia’s Finest General – Aleksei Brusilov I WHO DID WHAT IN WW1?

    Very interesting ten minute profile.

    ( If you haven’t seen it already, ‘The Great War’ is a Youtube site which is doing a week-by-week history of WW1, with a heap of sidebar stories like this. )

  5. Snoopy

    That is a lie. She has a fixed line telephone service, under the Universal Service Obligation.

    Unless things have changed, the landholder has to be pay for the cost of the connection from the property boundary to the house. If it’s some distance they probably don’t want to pay for that. It’s their choice.

  6. stackja

    duncanm
    #2050713, posted on June 7, 2016 at 8:53 pm
    When were the major historical East Coast Lows?

    Stackja’s link has a list of the significant ECL’s.

    There are even three tropical cyclones that went within 200km of Sydney.. 1956 seems to have been a particularly bad season.

    I do not remember any great fuss in 1956 other than the Melbourne Olympics. Of course the MSM was less hysterical then.

  7. twostix

    The more I see of the two extremes, the more the horseshoe theory of politics seems a good explanation of the world. I like to hunker down, let them club each other to death, and avoid being hit by the crossfire.

    lol, look at this clown.

    Two days arguing that men should be allowed to muscle their way into the local girls change rooms “I’m totally a moderate, I don’t care”.

    Nice try but no.

  8. egg_

    I’d give it zero Cred.

    Yup, sounds like another Snowcone snow job.

  9. Unless things have changed, the landholder has to be pay for the cost of the connection from the property boundary to the house. If it’s some distance they probably don’t want to pay for that. It’s their choice.

    The price here 20 years ago was circa $1,000 per landline connection. This applied for the each & every number you had connected, even though umpteen lines could be easily added once the infrastructure was installed for the first line.

  10. Fleeced

    Hmmm… streaming PM live seems a bit choppy today. I need an Internet subsidy!

    Seriously though, I hope the storms haven’t wreaked havoc on a line somewhere… I normally get close to 20Mbps but am barely breaking 5Mbps atm.

  11. twostix

    Latham was Trump before Trump was Trump:

    One of the tactics of political correctness is to brand anyone expressing mainstream views as a bigot.

    In Australian politics it is no longer possible to speak truthfully about Left-generated issues such as domestic violence, asylum seekers and genderless school programs without experiencing a politically correct bigotry slur (with the apt abbreviation PCBS).

    This isn’t hyperbole, and worse it’s filtering down to the everyman particularly through public schools.

  12. Geriatric Mayfly

    Bronny straining at the leash to take a chunk out of Roz Ward; Bolt yanking her back to his question about her loyalty to 666. In the end they came to common ground, and agreed that socialism is a scourge that impress individual endeavour.

  13. johanna

    Can’t think of anywhere you wouldn’t get reception and no landline 20 km out of town. What is it. A vacant block?

    It’s a complete lie.

    Under the USO, there is no question that there would have been a landline to the house 20km out of town. None at all. Zero.

    Oh, does that mean that the Left is just making stuff up? (Clutches pearls)

  14. Grigory M

    am barely breaking 5Mbps atm

    3,41 Mbps here atm.

  15. Geriatric Mayfly

    impedes individual endeavour. Really, this auto correct has no idea.

  16. john constantine

    from an american facetwit libertarian meme.

    If higher taxes on tobacco give smokers the incentive to cut back and quit smoking so much, and higher taxes on alcohol give drinkers the incentive to cut back and quit drinking so much and higher taxes on sugar give snackers the incentive to cut back and quit snacking so much:

    Exactly what do they think higher taxes on workers earned income gives workers the incentive to do?

  17. entropy

    Also, if you are 20 km fromTamworth, why the eff would you use satellite when 4G would be perfectly fine?

  18. twostix

    The ways in which the bottled up anger caused by heavy handed banning of popular opinion are going to come out in this Sovietised nation are going to be amazing!

    Bashing for everyone!

  19. daggers

    Custard, the Bronny/ Bolt encounter sounds entertaining.
    Her usual tactic on upstarts like young Bolt is to drip with icy superiority and cut them down to size with her withering contempt.
    It’s a very unattractive look. She’s like a puppet out of Spitting Image.

  20. Snoopy

    Under the USO, there is no question that there would have been a landline to the house 20km out of town. None at all. Zero.

    Even if the house is 2 km from the boundary?

  21. Armadillo

    Unless things have changed, the landholder has to be pay for the cost of the connection from the property boundary to the house. If it’s some distance they probably don’t want to pay for that.

    If it’s the same bird I think it is, then she works up at the hospital as one of the department heads. Her Dad is a doctor. Can’t afford it? Don’t think I’ve ever met him, but he diagnosed Mrs A’s father with his brain tumour 15 years ago.

    Unfortunately, can’t open Eggys link. Mrs A suggested you all Google Dr Peter Wakefield, Tamworth and hit “images”. Grey haired bloke. That’s him. And looksy looksy. Third photo along. Who’s that with him cutting a ribbon? Is that Mr Windsor? Shock. Horror.

  22. Mark from Melbourne

    It is, indeed, A Melancholy Calculation (h/t Insta)

    The West is now busy at work across the entire field of social, cultural and political life promoting its own version of Lysenkoism, a misconceived exercise of supposedly vernalizing reality by transforming fact into fantasy and truth into lie for the purpose of creating the perfect society and the redeemed human being, transferable across the generations. Its assumptions about the world are guided not by common sense or genuine science but by the precepts of ideology and political desire.

    Examples abound of the ubiquitous tendency to replace ontology with myth, the determinate with the fluid and the objective with the delusionary. A modest inventory of such noxious miscontruals would include:

    Biological sexual differentiation must yield to voluntary gender identity.

    A cooling climate is obviously warming.

    The demonstrable failure of socialism wherever it has been tried is proof that it has not been properly implemented.

    Democratic Israel is an apartheid state.

    Islam with its record of unstinting bloodshed is a religion of peace.

    Illegal immigrants are undocumented workers.

    Terrorism is workplace violence.

    A child in the womb is a mass of insensible protoplasm.

    The killing of the old and the ill is merciful, even when the recipient of such tender concern is not consulted.

    There is no such thing as truth, an axiom regarded as true.

    Green energy is a social and economic good irrespective of crony profiteering, exorbitant cost, wildlife devastation, and unworkability in its present state.

    Storms, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, floods, tsunamis and mortality itself are natural phenomena, but Nature, which cares nothing for human life, is nonetheless sacred, vulnerable and at the mercy of human indifference.

    Women are disadvantaged in the workforce, academia and society at large despite the fact that high-end hiring practices, legal judgments, custody protocols and university appointments, as well as student enrollment, wholly favor women to the detriment of men.

    An enemy is a friend.

    Criminality is innocence.

    Losing is winning.

    Prosperity is avarice.

    Redistributing wealth, i.e., robbing the affluent and productive, is a form of compassion and basic justice.

    Those who claim victim status are always credible.

    Accumulating debt is an economic stimulus.

    Big government is a boon to mankind.

    War is passé (so 19th century).

    Diplomacy and talk—the higher Twitter—will prevail over barbarism.

    The most gynocentric society ever created is a rape culture.

    Palestine is a historically legitimate nation.

    Uniformity of thought and action equals cultural diversity.

    An exploded lie merely confirms what it lies about (e.g., Rigoberta Menchu).

    Morality is relative.

    Merit is an unearned distinction.

    Or in other words, what is, is not, and what is not, is.

  23. twostix

    Bolt said something dumb the other day:

    The poll is yet another sign, by the way, that the conditions are ripe for the start of a new, moderate and non-Christian conservative party.

    lol.

    Ok, Bolt, so you mean we need another Liberal party.

    The fatal flaw in 90% of public “conservatives” is that ultimately they’re soft cocks.

  24. val majkus

    I’d give it zero Cred. Can’t think of anywhere you wouldn’t get reception and no landline 20 km out of town. What is it. A vacant block?

    hey Armadillo I watched Q & A last night and gathered from that questioner that there was a landline which was unusable for some reason …

  25. Snoopy

    Unfortunately, can’t open Eggys link. Mrs A suggested you all Google Dr Peter Wakefield, Tamworth and hit “images”. Grey haired bloke. That’s him. And looksy looksy. Third photo along. Who’s that with him cutting a ribbon? Is that Mr Windsor? Shock. Horror.

    Only six out ten questions were gimmes for Windsor. Snowcone needs to lift his game.

  26. Carpe Jugulum

    1.

    Unless things have changed, the landholder has to be pay for the cost of the connection from the property boundary to the house.

    2.

    It’s a complete lie.

    Under the USO, there is no question that there would have been a landline to the house 20km out of town. None at all. Zero.

    Ok Troops, telco lead-ins work this way, if there is an egsisting lead in then all they need is an available pair at the Main Data Frame (copper network) then it is from MDF to pillar, pillar to pit, pit to lead in.

    If there is no lead in at the property boundary, that is at the property owners egspense to provide it. If there are no pairs available at the MDF then you will never have a land connection.

    Hope that clears it up.

  27. Grigory M

    Elisabeth Wakeford said:

    No TV or mobile reception. No fixed line available, and the best satellite internet we can get struggles at times to give us access to our gmail accounts.

    Telstra’s USO STS webpage says:

    Our national pricing ensures that customers in remote areas pay the same price for an STS as our customers in cities. While this service has traditionally been provided as a fixed line telephone service, our obligation is technology neutral meaning we can choose the technology over which we provide you with this service. For example in some remote areas we provide customers with an STS over satellite.

    Seems to me she is telling it as it is.

  28. Carpe Jugulum

    hey Armadillo I watched Q & A last night and gathered from that questioner that there was a landline which was unusable for some reason …

    It depends on the state of the network from a maintenance perspective, that is after heavy rain the copper network will have outages.

    Also to consider, the further the lead in is from the pit to the premises the voltage will be lower and the service & signal will be worse for both phone and internet.

  29. twostix

    Or in other words, what is, is not, and what is not, is.

    It’s ok, things were bad in the 1900’s too. All sorts of degenerate lunacy was taking hold. Thankfully Germany took one for the team refocusing out minds back to reality by allowing us to bash them senseless, twice.

    And by the look of it they’re going to do it again! Wonderful people.

  30. Snoopy

    Seems to me she is telling it as it is.

    Did she acknowledge that she had a (standard) telephone service? No.

    She was a dishonest Windsor plant.

  31. JC

    twostix
    #2050735, posted on June 7, 2016 at 9:29 pm
    Latham was Trump before Trump was Trump:

    One of the tactics of political correctness is to brand anyone expressing mainstream views as a bigot.

    In Australian politics it is no longer possible to speak truthfully about Left-generated issues such as domestic violence, asylum seekers and genderless school programs without experiencing a politically correct bigotry slur (with the apt abbreviation PCBS).

    This isn’t hyperbole, and worse it’s filtering down to the everyman particularly through public schools.

    It’s hard to believe that the person offering the best defence against this is Latham

  32. Armadillo

    Ok, finally found the full show. To be fair, just noticed there was a Nationals supporter who got to ask a question as well. Mark Rodda if memory serves me correctly, threw his hat in the ring as the prospective Nationals representative for the seat of Tamworth.

    Just goes to show what a stupid forum QandA is. Questions with Agendas is a more accurate description.

  33. Grigory M

    She said they have satellite internet.

  34. Carpe Jugulum

    She said they have satellite internet.

    It seems odd to me that she would have a problem using a dongle on the PC or laptop. We use them when i work offshore and they are brilliant. I’ve used them in PNG, New Britain, Solomon Islands and Western Samoa and they never miss a beat.

    I think she is full of it.

  35. val majkus

    Mark Rodda if memory serves me correctly, threw his hat in the ring as the prospective Nationals representative for the seat of Tamworth

    Mark spoke about how he was disappointed with the major conservative parties … but think he said he had not been a member

  36. calli

    Libby Wakeford is one of the usual suspects. A quick google of her name and there’s a plethora of stuff from Hunter New England Health.

    Thought this was interesting from one of the reports:

    Investigate partnerships with organisations that can provide resources/displays within the space – eg Family Planning, Safe Schools Coalition, Mindmatters, youthbeyondblue.

    She might be telling the truth about her debbildebbil internet connection. But I smell a Rattus biggus.

  37. custard

    Cats,

    I’m looking for quotes for (hopefully) an election website that I will put up for the campaign.

    eg: Judith Sloan ( to paraphrase)

    A decade ago child care cost $1b. This year it will cost $7b and Labor want to lift it to $10b”

  38. Grigory M

    Mark Rodda if memory serves me correctly, threw his hat in the ring as the prospective Nationals representative for the seat of Tamworth

    Snowcone did raise that with Mark Rodda during the panels responses.

  39. Mayan

    “I’m totally a moderate, I don’t care”.

    Nice try but no.

    The po-mo leftists say the same thing when they are given the same responses you’ve seen from me to their nonsense. What they want to be true is what their opposites believe will work, and neither like the reality that dashes former’s hopes and conflicts with the latter’s dogma.

    Perhaps part of the reason for the ferocity of the animosity between the parties, one explicitly believing a lie that the other implicitly fears is true, is that they are both arguing over what to do based on the same fatally flawed understanding of reality.

    Ciao until Thursday.

  40. Combine Dave

    From the latest X-men film’s wiki page:

    X-Men: Apocalypse is the kind of weightless, soulless trifle of a bore that makes comic book superhero movies look bad and makes me not look forward to the next installment.

    Fact Check: True.

  41. Makka

    custard,

    I quite liked DL’s message in his “Sorry” vid. Something like;

    “In a nation of just 22 Million, why on earth do we need 2 million public servants on the taxpayer payroll”

  42. Grigory M

    Is Elizabeth (with a “z”) Wakeford at Hunter New England Health the same person as Elisabeth (with an “s”) Wakeford who was on Q & A?

  43. egg_

    She might be telling the truth about her debbildebbil internet connection.

    She’s in a bizarre location if she virtually has no radio frequency (RF) reception of:
    – terrestrial television,
    – terrestrial mobile, and
    – poor satellite reception

    She works in mental health (like the painter who neglects his own house painting?)

  44. twostix

    You’ll get no traction here Mayan you little scientific socialist throwback you.

    There’s no more “debate” to be had about politically abolishing observable reality in order to let men into girls change rooms so leftist weirdos can masturbate than there is a “debate” to be had about lowering the age of consent (I’m sure you can’t wait to sink you fangs into that one again!)

  45. calli

    Chuckle.

    There’s photos in them thar reports.

  46. custard

    Thanks Makka,

    I’d use it but, ultimately the LDP are going to take votes from me so I would prefer to quote from someone else.

    Its still a bloody good quote

  47. egg_

    Is Elizabeth (with a “z”) Wakeford at Hunter New England Health the same person as Elisabeth (with an “s”) Wakeford who was on Q & A?

    It’s an ‘s’ and theres pics if you care to look.
    Are you one of her patients?

  48. Armadillo

    Also to consider, the further the lead in is from the pit to the premises the voltage will be lower and the service & signal will be worse for both phone and internet.

    Yep, and another thing. Anyone ever driven along a country road and wondered why the hell someone on a couple of thousand acres would build their house right on the highway? Seems insane when there is a nice hill 1km in, no traffic noise and beautiful views?

    Electricity suppliers will give you 20 metres from the boundary. I suspect Telcos are the same. And so it should be. Your property and your lifestyle choice. Why should everyone else have to pay for it. Say it’s 30,000 acres, and you want to build your home 5km from the boundary. Why should everyone else pay for 5km of electricity lines? If you don’t want to pay, buy a generator, pay for a satellite phone, or shut the hell up and stop whinging.

  49. egg_

    There’s photos in them thar reports.

    The contrarian retard is off its meds?

  50. val majkus

    yep, that telecommunications questioner wanted a commitment to a fibre to the premises NBN

  51. calli

    I think it’s safe to say she was a hostile lefty plant.

    Wow. On Q&A. How about that?

  52. Grigory M

    Facebook photo is her and says she studied at La Trobe, where Roz Ward is on staff.

  53. Armadillo

    From the Northern Daily Leader…..

    CANDIDATE: Tamworth man Mark Rodda has announced he will stand for Tamworth Regional Council in September. … The long time Nationals Party advocate and party executive ..

    .

    Jun 27, 2010 – Kevin Anderson says he is humbled to win the Nationals Community Preselection for the state seat of Tamworth. … preferences from the candidate with the fewest votes Mark Rodda.

  54. Grigory M

    Are you one of her patients?

    I called her – she said she’s all booked up with you as her one and only patient.

  55. egg_

    she said she’s all booked up with you as her one and only patient.

    I like her ‘bedside manner’.

  56. calli

    Holy cow! She does have a phone line then. ?

  57. Carpe Jugulum

    Electricity suppliers will give you 20 metres from the boundary. I suspect Telcos are the same.

    Actually telcos in Oz charge the customer for a lead in from the property line, you can dig it in yourself or erect your own poles (which is a secondary headache for maintenance) the main problem is the further from the pit you are the worse the signal will be.

  58. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m looking for quotes for (hopefully) an election website that I will put up for the campaign.

    Western Australia receives thirty cents for every dollar it raises in Goods and Services tax. Why?

  59. cohenite

    Mark from Melbourne

    #2050746, posted on June 7, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    +1. The left is truly a pathology.

  60. val majkus

    thanks Armadillo then he must have resigned from the NP since the date of that article

  61. egg_

    MDF = Main Distribution Frame

    / Gargooly

    (There’s also IDF: Intermediate Distribution Frame)

  62. Grigory M

    She said you’re cracked and she thinks she’ll never unscramble your head. I mentioned Harry Bailey and she said she’s gonna give you deep sleep therapy as a last resort.

  63. Grigory M

    Skype on satellite is a wonderful thing.

  64. custard

    ZK2A

    I’d already banked that one in my soon to be released election statement.

    Got any others?

  65. egg_

    She’s only messing with your head, tard.

  66. Grigory M

    You’re the patient – enjoy the treatment – sweet dreams.

  67. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’d already banked that one in my soon to be released election statement.

    Got any others?

    The only roles of a Federal Government should be defence, foreign policy and welfare. The States can manage the rest far more effectively.

  68. egg_

    sweet dreams.

    I may stop in next time and check out her connection.

  69. Grigory M

    Hahha – good luck – the only connection you’ll make will be with the electrodes she puts on each side of your egghead.

  70. woolfe

    Custard,
    The Senate is meant to be the States house. Let’s take it back from the parties

  71. egg_

    The glans stimulation is magnifique.

  72. custard

    The only roles of a Federal Government should be defence, foreign policy and welfare. The States can manage the rest far more effectively.

    I’ve seen this or a similar form of words on this blog. Other Cats may have a very very similar quote meaning the same thing but one thats just cuts you to the quick. I just cant think of it!

    Go!

  73. Old School Conservative

    Watching Fox news profiling two children who have rung 9-1-1 to report their parents for running a red light and drink driving.
    Reminds me of “Tomorrow belongs to me” sung by Ross Ward.

  74. Grigory M

    Soft boiled ain’t gonna do it – but that’s a good outcome with deep sleep therapy. Best you can hope for is that it’s over easy.

  75. custard

    Great quote Woolfe

    I’m taking all this in.

    Prompt: Print using system dialog….

    Enter

  76. Mayan

    “To know what questions we may reasonably propose is in itself a strong evidence of sagacity and intelligence. For if a question be in itself absurd and unsusceptible of a rational answer, it is attended with the danger — not to mention the shame that falls upon the person who proposes it — of seducing the unguarded listener into making absurd answers, and we are presented with the ridiculous spectacle of one (as the ancients said) “milking the he-goat, and the other holding a sieve.”

    Immanuel Kant, “The Critique of Pure Reason”

    Which is why I’m not entering into discussions with those who use insults, name-calling, loaded questions, and other tactics that really should have been outgrown before reaching voting age.

  77. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My memory is failing me. Senator Tom Pinnaza (?) Widely seen as quite an effective Senator for Western Australia?

  78. Armadillo

    Western Australia receives thirty cents for every dollar it raises in Goods and Services tax. Why?

    GST costs WA citizen 70% in tax every time they open their wallets. That’s not much change, but it’s going to change. Vote Custard.

  79. egg_

    Val, Arma and I planned to catch up – we’ll have to share our favourite Gargooly stories.

  80. Grigory M

    You and Humpty will look good up there on the Wall of Shame.

  81. egg_

    Shame

    The narcissist’s nemesis, kryptonite.

  82. Carpe Jugulum

    GST costs every WA citizen 70% in tax every time they open their you open your wallet.

    That’s not much change, but it’s going it has to to change.

    Vote Custard.

  83. Diogenes

    Catch a plane to New Caledonia, they will sell/get you anything in the tobacco line.
    Tis a lot closer than Amsterdam.

    Forget New Caledonia. My experience last July was – smokes – as expensive as Oz, and they have the same photos as our packs, but not the rest of the plain packaging.

    Vanuatu is also out, although they are very very cheap, the stock is imported from OZ

  84. Armadillo

    Excellent editing Carpy.

  85. Which is why I’m not entering into discussions with those who use insults, name-calling, loaded questions, and other tactics that really should have been outgrown before reaching voting age.

    Or those who ask simple yes or no questions that you refuse to answer.

  86. Grigory M

    Humpty Dildo sat on the Wall
    egg_ got up there too
    Libby Wakeford came along
    And flushed them down the loo

    [No – no – no applause – please]

  87. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Custard,
    The Senate is meant to be the States house. Let’s take it back from the parties

    Fair comment – how do you deal with the fact that a mendicant State like Tasmania has the same representation as, oh I dunno, West Australia or Queensland.

    For what it’s worth, custard, I was getting a haircut years ago, and the guy in the next chair looked familiar.

    I made polite conversation, and he stuck out his hand and introduced himself, in his current role.

    “With all due respect, I do remember you as “The toe cutter” in the Senate during the Dismissal.”

    He laughed. “It’s been a long time since I was called that.”

    There you go, custard. “The new toecutter, from Western Australia.”

  88. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Custard. From Western Australia, courtesy of the Cat. Don’t fvck with the Cat.”

    Nah, sorry, mate, don’t think you’ll get too far with that one.

  89. twostix

    It’s telling of your ego that you think the people insulting your “arguments” want to enter into a discussion on your maniacal idea that women should put up with weirdo men in wigs watching them get changed at the local pool because studies show 0.143% of turnips have a Z gene anomaly.

  90. EU court rules illegal migrants cannot be jailed

    Luxembourg (AFP) – EU countries cannot imprison illegal migrants just for crossing borders inside the passport-free Schengen area, the bloc’s top court ruled Tuesday, in a new blow to efforts to crack down on the migration crisis.

  91. Armadillo

    Humpty Dildo sat on the Wall

    Grog, is this about the “dossier” you keep on people per chance?

    Let it rip, Septimus.

  92. Makka

    “Which is why I’m not entering into discussions with those who use insults, name-calling, loaded questions, and other tactics that really should have been outgrown before reaching voting age.”

    What’s to discuss? Are you so dense that after days of your manic preaching you haven’t noticed that nobody is buying your transgender rubbish?

  93. custard

    Off to bed, I’ll check back in the morning

  94. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Off to bed, I’ll check back in the morning

    Night, custard. “Nolli Illegetimum Se Carborundum.” “Don’t ever let the bastards grind you down.”

  95. One of the tactics of political correctness is to brand anyone expressing mainstream views as a bigot.

    In Australian politics it is no longer possible to speak truthfully about Left-generated issues such as domestic violence, asylum seekers and genderless school programs without experiencing a politically correct bigotry slur (with the apt abbreviation PCBS).

    Something the Alt:Right is battling, how effectively we are yet to see.

  96. Carpe Jugulum

    Night, custard. “Nolli Illegetimum Se Carborundum.” “Don’t ever let the bastards grind you down.”

    Carpe Jugulum – “Go for the Throat”

  97. Trigger Warning (((Guardian)))

    Rights groups condemn removal of Saudi Arabia from UN blacklist
    UN accused of giving in to political manipulation as Riyadh hits back at claims over child deaths in Yemen conflict

  98. Hydra

    From previous thread – MV Magnetic Island definitely on the to do list. Unfortunately only a short work visit this time. Adam – I’m not a huge fan of cyclones so will stick to winter!

  99. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Carpe Jugulum – “Go for the Throat”

    Here was me thinking that phrase was classical Latin -Seize the Day?

    Allow me to contribute “Carpe Tuum In Arno Habetis” – I am told this translates as “Get you head out of your ar$e.”

  100. One of the tactics of political correctness is to brand anyone expressing mainstream views as a bigot.

    Oh that we could parachute Mark Latham into a safe Liberal seat. At the moment he is the most small ‘l’ liberal in Australia. Maybe the Libs and Labor could organise a prisoner exchange – Mark Latham for Maocolm Turdbull. They’d both be happier, and so, I suspect, would we.

  101. classical_hero

    Zippy all the more reason for Great Britain to leave the EU.

  102. MV Magnetic Island definitely on the to do list.
    Unfortunately only a short work visit this time.

    At least rent a Moke and get around and see a bit of the place for a couple of hours.

  103. Armadillo

    If Sinc is amenable, I reckon we should use Sinc’s gravitar for Custards campaign posters.

    Custards gone to bed. We could have them all printed and delivered to WA by early next week. How many do you reckon we need? A couple of thousand? My shout. Shhh….it’s a surprise.

  104. struth

    In Australian politics it is no longer possible to speak truthfully about Left-generated issues such as domestic violence, asylum seekers and genderless school programs without experiencing a politically correct bigotry slur (with the apt abbreviation PCBS).

    Who cares?

  105. How many do you reckon we need? A couple of thousand?

    It’s not quantity that counts, Armadillo, it’s tactics. No posters up until the Thursday night before the election. Then plaster two-thirds of them wherever you can. Teams of two guys in utes or with trailers. Clandestine, midnight to dawn stuff. The other third go up Friday night. Stapled over your opponents in good places, plus right across the entrance to electoral booths where they are not allowed.

  106. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We could have them all printed and delivered to WA by early next week. How many do you reckon we need? A couple of thousand? My shout. Shhh….it’s a surprise.

    This could tie up the High Court for years to come.. “Who’s electoral logo was it ? “Custard’s” or the “Doomlord’s” A High Court judge could be forgiven for thinking there was a drug problem in Australia….

  107. Damienski

    My memory is failing me. Senator Tom Pinnaza (?) Widely seen as quite an effective Senator for Western Australia?
    Senator John Panizza

  108. C.L.

    Just because the Labor Party is moving to legalise child sex grooming in state schools doesn’t mean it isn’t willing to crack down on the soliciting of minors:

    Queensland Government to review religious education in state schools.

    The Queensland government will review religious education in state schools after claims a popular program was “soliciting” students to become Christian.

    Windsor State School principal Matthew Keong wrote a letter to parents last week, suspending the long-standing Connect syllabus at his school.

    Mr Keong said the program “contravenes policy that prohibits proselytising”.

    “Connect’s lesson materials go beyond imparting knowledge of Biblical references, and extend to soliciting children to develop a personal faith in God and Jesus to become a Christian or `Kingdom Kid’,” he wrote.

    “The whole program appears to be based on that premise of trying to solicit them for a decision to become the kind of Christian prescribed in the materials.”

    Education Minister Kate Jones said on Tuesday the Education Department was reviewing the material.

    I am concerned content outside the guidelines of this long-standing policy may currently be being provided in state schools,” she said.

    “Any materials found to be in breach of the policy will be removed from schools.”

  109. Armadillo

    Good suggestions/recommendations/warnings, MV and Zulu.

    Now we just need a slogan for the posters. Something short and snappy seems the most sensible option.

    “I’ll smote you” or “You’ll be smoted”?

  110. Fisky

    Paul Ryan – loser!

    House Speaker Paul Ryan on Tuesday will lift the curtain on the Republicans’ ambitious, six-part plan to show November voters a detailed agenda, one that he hopes can unite the party and create some guidelines for its unpredictable presumptive nominee, Donald Trump.

    “The issues included represent the areas of common ground the speaker has with Donald Trump and he is confident the plans House Republicans would pass in 2017 would be signed into law with a Trump White House,” an House GOP aide said.

    After four months of work by a half dozen House committees, Ryan will roll out the first part of the plan on Tuesday, which tackles poverty and ineffective welfare programs.

    Later in the week, the GOP will introduce their foreign policy plank. Immigration and trade, which divide the GOP, are not among the policy plans.

    So the GOP will roll out a policy platform without the two most important issues on there.

  111. Fisky

    Trump should dump Ryan’s “anti-poverty” rubbish. It’s the same old crap that went nowhere when they piloted it in the 90s and if anything allowed businesses to game the system by pretending to employee people in places like Detroit. Ryan is absolute poison.

  112. Just did induction training.

    The question “wanna root?” is now punishable by law.

    Okay, it has been for a long time, but it should just be inappropriate request. Mostly.

  113. Armadillo

    Seriously though, just the last few weeks I’ve done quite a few miles, and I’ve seen alot of signs about on the roads.

    Boundary fences of properties, residential properties and so on – fair enough. Their property, they can support whomever they damn well want to. Trees on country roads. Yeah, I suppose (despite those belonging to I assume the public I.e public easements whether they be councils, rail or so on). Seems to be fair game for both sides.

    Only one thing gets my goat. It’s seeing Windsor signs on electricity poles in towns. Not that it’s a problem, just idiots plastering their own signs wherever they can. But when they are at “cherry picker height”, it is reminiscent of the “Your rights at Work” campaign conducted by the union movement during the Howard Government. That’s when you realise who is actually running the show.

  114. johanna

    GST costs every WA citizen 70% in tax every time they open their you open your wallet.

    Really?

    So, it costs WA people who are drains on the Commonwealth taxpayer, like pensioners of all stripes, 70% in tax?

    Pretty dishonest advertising, IMO.

  115. Armadillo

    Ryan is absolute poison.

    Must admit I’ve never taken that much interest in US politics. Followed some of SRR’s links, and getting slightly more educated. Fisky, what’s the go with Ryan? I sort of get that he’s some sort of “leader of the house” or something. I assume he’s elected to that position, and that ultimately Trump needed his endorsement, at the end of the day. Also recognise that this isn’t a normal election. Weird fucking system, but I’m warming to it. Probably the same as ours, but it’s done on a much more sophisticated level.

    We use knives, they use silencers. They didn’t count on Trump using a shotgun?

  116. Ken Oath

    Well, looky here. The bastards are not even pretending anymore.

    I saw this, but when I looked closer, it had not gone unchallenged.

    Notice the balaclavas and gloves. Democracy in the 21st century. A texta might help, though!

  117. Armadillo

    Pretty dishonest advertising, IMO.

    Meh. Whatever it takes, apparently.

  118. Carpe Jugulum

    So, it costs WA people who are drains on the Commonwealth taxpayer, like pensioners of all stripes, 70% in tax?

    Pretty dishonest advertising, IMO.

    As opposed to SA & TAS who give so much.

  119. Carpe Jugulum

    Here was me thinking that phrase was classical Latin -Seize the Day?

    That would be Carpe Diem.

    Carpe Jugulum came from a Terry Pratchett book of the same name.

    ;).

  120. Ken Oath

    Furthermore, those sites look like thinly veiled threats to ALA candidates. “Here they are, take a good look. You have weapons and balaclavas. You know what to do”. 21st century democracy.

  121. Armadillo

    That your hand writing the second photo Ken?

    We already have one nutter here, no room at the inn I’m afraid. Move on. Shove off. Away you go.

  122. Cold-Hands

    Peter Hellier big expensive house
    Waleed Ali no house

    The reason is obvious.

    White privilege.

    Nah, they’re both caucasian.
    It’s obviously due to Islamophobia.

  123. Armadillo

    Thinking aloud (only because it’s so quiet here).

    I reckon that Angela Merkle may well become Europes next Hitler, but not for the reasons you may think.

    Totally polar opposites, yet ultimately the same result. One dreamed of world domination, the other of European integration. One of war and domination, the other of peace and capitulation. At the end of the day, Europe will be left in tatters, again.

    And this is the reason why Liberty is important. Freedom of speech. Expression of ideas. Rule of law, that favours no one, regardless of class, race, religion or political affiliation.

    Will there be another war? Hell yes, we are already in it. And losing it badly.

    “The Cat” is discussing and arguing if blokes in a dress should enter a female toilet or not? FMD. For two days solid? There is clue one. Why isn’t every arsehat in ISIS dead right now? There’s clue two. Why the hell are fuckers in the City even allowed to comment on Agriculture or Coal Mines? None of your business. You get the beaches and boulevards, we get the bush.

    Most importantly, what the fuck is wrong with pineapple on a pizza? If I want a fucking Hawiian pizza, I’ll eat it. Butt out.

    I’m a little bit wound up right now, back in a few days……

  124. Sydney Boy

    What is wrong with pineapple on pizza? Nothing, I like it.

    But think about it this way, what other fruit do you put on pizza? Strawberries? Passionfruit? Peaches? Sounds weird now, doesn’t it.

  125. Armadillo

    Sounds weird now, doesn’t it.

    Tomato is a fruit, and yet no-one thinks that’s weird. Tomato paste on a pizza? Fresh tomatoes on a pizza? Wouldn’t raise an eyebrow.

    Suggest ordering a Hawiian around here, and you might as well be the Devil Incarnate. They don’t clutch for their pearls, they clutch for their Rosary beads, search for their holy water, and press the speed dial for the local priest. Just wait till they “escalate”. Expect a stern call from the local Bishop.

  126. Armadillo

    Leak – brilliant again.

  127. Tom

    FMD. A 14-foot Great White flake jumps clean out of the water off Newcastle as a surfer catches a wave 100 metres away (story in the Oz). Now that harvesting them is banned by the swampfilth anti-civilisationists at the CSIRO, the average size is going to get bigger and bigger — just like the saltwater crocs who have been protected since the 1970s and are now a dangerous man-eating plague.

  128. srr

    Ducatti.

    The Catholic Priest who married us had one.

    We used to talk about God in his garage while he lovingly did his maintenance on it. 🙂

  129. A Lurker

    To Custard this is what you should be campaigning on (thanks to Armadillo)…

    And this is the reason why Liberty is important. Freedom of speech. Expression of ideas. Rule of law, that favours no one, regardless of class, race, religion or political affiliation.

    Push for those ideals, everything else good and decent flows from that.

  130. Tintarella di Luna

    Push for those ideals, everything else good and decent flows from that.

    and custard — irrespective of gender fluidity

  131. Bruce of Newcastle

    Paul Ryan – loser!

    Lead item on BBC world news just now: Ryan calls Trump a racist.
    No mention the judge is a well known anti-gringo lefty Obama appointee who should’ve recused himself due to perceptions of conflict of interest.
    The rest of the BBC bulletin was similar one sided propaganda which is why I’ve mostly given up listening to it. Rabz doctrine!

  132. srr

    twostix
    #2050747, posted on June 7, 2016 at 9:38 pm
    Bolt said something dumb the other day:

    The poll is yet another sign, by the way, that the conditions are ripe for the start of a new, moderate and non-Christian conservative party.

    lol.

    Ok, Bolt, so you mean we need another Liberal party.

    The fatal flaw in 90% of public “conservatives” is that ultimately they’re soft cocks.

    Yes …… what Bolt said was very dumb … sounds like he’s trading shares in the, “evil Christian Crusaders shouldn’t have been mean to the nice, devout Muslim ‘migrants‘”, false narrative market.

    He should sell, and buy up big on, “twostix is right again”, stocks …


    twostix
    #2050742, posted on June 7, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    The ways in which the bottled up anger caused by heavy handed banning of popular opinion are going to come out in this Sovietised nation are going to be amazing!

    Bashing for everyone!

  133. Tom

    Bruce, if you’re going beach-walking, make sure you’re wearing tungsten leggings. The local great whites look like they’re in the mood for yumans.

  134. srr

    Tom
    #2050858, posted on June 8, 2016 at 4:21 am

    FMD. A 14-foot Great White flake jumps clean out of the water off Newcastle as a surfer catches a wave 100 metres away (story in the Oz). Now that harvesting them is banned by the swampfilth anti-civilisationists at the CSIRO, the average size is going to get bigger and bigger — just like the saltwater crocs who have been protected since the 1970s and are now a dangerous man-eating plague.

    I think I got somewhere on this subject, with kindly but Melbourne infected person the other day.

    After pointing out that, monster sized isn’t rare anymore and that, more bigger = more older = more breeding of more ravenous youngsters, they shut up.

  135. srr

    twostix
    #2050755, posted on June 7, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    Or in other words, what is, is not, and what is not, is.

    It’s ok, things were bad in the 1900’s too. All sorts of degenerate lunacy was taking hold. Thankfully Germany took one for the team refocusing out minds back to reality by allowing us to bash them senseless, twice.

    And by the look of it they’re going to do it again! Wonderful people.

    Another reminder of why Gilbert Keith Chesterton is a saint, should be officially recognised as such and taught at primary, secondary and tertiary institutions of learning.

  136. custard

    Lurker,

    You are correct. When I’ve been talking to people, my simple message is we pay too much tax because government is too big. And the only way we will ever pay less tax is to get the government out of our lives. Unless you find yourself talking to a commo it resonates with almost everyone.

  137. A Lurker

    You want a short quote Custard?

    How about a simple: “Get Government out of our lives.”

  138. srr

    Armadillo
    #2050843, posted on June 8, 2016 at 1:02 am

    Ryan is absolute poison.

    … what’s the go with Ryan? I sort of get that he’s some sort of “leader of the house” or something. I assume he’s elected to that position, and that ultimately Trump needed his endorsement …

    🙂

    Donald Trump Gets A Political Endorsement He Did Not Want, Need or Request…
    Posted on June 2, 2016 by sundance

    Today, writing an article in gazettextra, House Speaker Paul Ryan endorsed candidate Donald Trump. You can read the article HERE.

    Much will be made of the endorsement and change of position for Paul Ryan, but something should be emphasized the MSM will overlook: Donald Trump is ambivalent to this endorsement.

    Donald Trump has repeatedly said he did not want -nor need- Ryan to endorse him.

    The reasoning is quite simple and can be found in a short section of Ryan’s article published today where he describes some of the conversation between Trump and himself:

    “the House policy agenda has been the main focus of our dialogue”

    Candidate Donald Trump DOES NOT support “the house policy agenda“; he never will. Ryan’s agenda is the legislative priority list of Wall Street and the K-Street lobbyists who are funding his house membership. Donald Trump’s entire campaign approach is directly in opposition to Ryan’s Wall Street agenda and both he and Ryan accept that.
    Continue reading ?
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/02/donald-trump-gets-a-political-endorsement-he-did-not-want-need-or-request/

    😉

  139. srr

    Ken Oath
    #2050844, posted on June 8, 2016 at 1:07 am

    Well, looky here. The bastards are not even pretending anymore.

    I saw this, but when I looked closer, it had not gone unchallenged.

    Notice the balaclavas and gloves. Democracy in the 21st century. A texta might help, though!

    It’s only the local branches of the same evil scum that burned Ukrainians alive, and the open borders touts here defended, by attacking those of us who tried to tell you the truth about them.

  140. srr

    Ken Oath
    #2050848, posted on June 8, 2016 at 1:31 am

    Furthermore, those sites look like thinly veiled threats to ALA candidates. “Here they are, take a good look. You have weapons and balaclavas. You know what to do”. 21st century democracy.

    Further to twostix’s insightful, “bashings for everyone” – when you know the filth with rags over their faces, bashing you, it doesn’t matter that their mates in the judiciary say they don’t recognise your identification of them.

  141. srr

    San Jose Firefighters REFUSED TO HELP Pleading Teen Trump Supporter Fleeing Terror Mob

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/san-jose-firefighters-refused-help-teen-trump-supporter-fleeing-terror-mob/

    The details of the whole story are important to understand, but you have to go there to read it, because unlike Communist Australia, Americans are still allowed to use “The ‘N’ Word”.

  142. ella

    Mayan
    #2050803, posted on June 7, 2016 at 10:49 pm
    “To know what questions we may reasonably propose is in itself a strong evidence of sagacity and intelligence. For if a question be in itself absurd and unsusceptible of a rational answer, it is attended with the danger — not to mention the shame that falls upon the person who proposes it — of seducing the unguarded listener into making absurd answers, and we are presented with the ridiculous spectacle of one (as the ancients said) “milking the he-goat, and the other holding a sieve.”

    — Immanuel Kant, “The Critique of Pure Reason”

    “Which is why I’m not entering into discussions with those who use insults, name-calling, loaded questions, and other tactics that really should have been outgrown before reaching voting age.”

    Immanuel Kant did not stop at that point, going on to reason on actions being morally right in virtue of their motives… and on…and on – good and evil! Therefore, Kant said:

    “Always recognise that individuals are ‘ends’ and do not use them as ‘means’ to your ‘ends’.”

    So let’s pose a question:

    What does it mean to treat a primary school child as an end in herself/himself and not a mere means to Ross Ward’s ends of sexual perversion and bastardised Marxism?

    Perhaps Kant will see the child as having intrinsic value – in herself/himself or in her /his own right; value as a human being not derived from any other source. Since Ward sees the child only as a means to his perverted end, he sees the child as having no value except what is conferred on him/her by some other value.

    What does it mean for a transgender male to redefine women in masculine terms? Is he treating a female as an end in herself or using her as a means to his own ends?

  143. egg_

    Now that harvesting them is banned by the swampfilth anti-civilisationists at the CSIRO, the average size is going to get bigger and bigger — just like the saltwater crocs who have been protected since the 1970s and are now a dangerous man-eating plague.

    Is the crocs’ main diet Euro-Greenie tourists?

  144. Grigory M

    Is Elizabeth (with a “z”) Wakeford at Hunter New England Health the same person as Elisabeth (with an “s”) Wakeford who was on Q & A?

    It’s an ‘s’

    Here you go, egg_ – Liza with a Zee.

  145. ella

    “Is the crocs’ main diet Euro-Greenie tourists?”

    A few years ago, in Cairns, there was a croc at a bus stop. The croc arrived early and was first in line for a quick trip to the city centre. The bus driver was annoyed because croc did not have the fare so there was a flurry of activity and croc was forced out of the passenger lineup.

  146. egg_

    Grigory M
    #2050876, posted on June 8, 2016 at 7:15 am

    Q&A may have misspelled it, tard.
    Get-a-life.

  147. Snoopy

    Ramadam Mubarak!

    /Malcolm and Lucy

  148. What does it mean for a transgender male to redefine women in masculine terms? Is he treating a female as an end in herself or using her as a means to his own ends?

    Gender Studies comes to the cat, uninvited.

  149. calli

    They did, egg_. Shocking. ?

  150. john constantine

    Sky scrolling headline says that the Great Abbottbeast says he is still friends with the back stabbing bishop.

    This will only make angry women hate him more for being weak.

    Their keating would have reduced bishop to a greasy smear for treachery and their general left would have turned their backs on her as he did so.

    [their shortfilth will still pay for what he did to their redfilth gillard, unless he wins the election Lathams post politics career will look stellar by comparison.]

  151. egg_

    They did, egg_. Shocking. ?

    Yup, which Google obviously makes allowances for – teh Gargooly needs an upgrade to Pedant 2.0.

  152. srr

    flova says:
    June 7, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    Yes. But he point of my comment was that the Mexican-American caller was a huge Trump supporter who had inside knowledge of La Raza from her brother. She said Trump was exactly right, that the judge is biased because the goal of La Raza is to turn U.S. into Mexico.

    She was very effective.

    John Thompson says:
    June 7, 2016 at 4:23 pm

    here’s what she was saying This judge is part of HNBA – HISPANIC NATIONAL BAR ASSOCIATION. and last July called for boycotting Trump’s businesses.

    This judge needs to be disbarred. NOW!

    “The HNBA calls for a boycott of all of Trump business ventures, including golf courses, hotels, and restaurants. We salute NBC/Universal, Univision and Macy’s for ending their association with Trump, and we join them in standing up against bigotry and racist rhetoric. Other businesses and corporations should follow the lead of NBC/Universal, Univision and Macy’s and take similar actions against Donald Trump’s business interests. We can and will make a difference.

    http://us4.campaign-archive2.c…

    John, that link isn’t working, but using, up to “archive”, with “la raza boycott trump”, I got some more –

    TRUMP U JUDGE’S LA RAZA GROUP BOYCOTTING TRUMP
    Lawyers 1st declared economic war on candidate in 2015

    Published: 5 hours ago

    http://www.wnd.com/2016/06/trump-u-judges-group-boycotting-trump/

    JUDGE, LAW FIRM BRINGING TRUMP U CASE BOTH TIED TO LA RAZA
    Curiel awarded scholarship to illegal immigrant

    Published: 20 hours ago

    http://www.wnd.com/2016/06/trump-u-judges-group-tied-to-national-council-of-laraza/

    Can fellow cats think of of other wanna-lawyers who want to grow up to be monster sharks like those?
    Shouldn’t we hunt them into oblivion before they do?

  153. Bruce of Newcastle

    Blair on fire early morning. The hovergimp is gold. More snark per character than Lewis Carroll.

  154. duncanm

    Canberra residents will become the first in the nation to pay a domestic violence tax, after the ACT government announced it would levy households $30 a year to fund an “unprecedented” $21.4 million reform package.

    I don’t know where to start on this… maybe with the planned waste, which is bound to be an underestimate.

    A new full-time co-­ordinator general for family ­safety with a dedicated team will receive $3m of the $21m package, with $2.6m going towards case management and co-ordination, $2.4m for enhanced child protection services, $2m for specialist drug treatment services and $1.2m for interpreting services in ACT courts.

  155. srr

    Donald Trump Issues Statement Regarding Trump University Lawsuit and La Raza Judge Curiel…
    Posted on June 7, 2016 by sundance

    Here is the official statement from candidate Donald Trump:

    “It is unfortunate that my comments have been misconstrued as a categorical attack against people of Mexican heritage. I am friends with and employ thousands of people of Mexican and Hispanic descent. The American justice system relies on fair and impartial judges. All judges should be held to that standard. I do not feel that one’s heritage makes them incapable of being impartial, but, based on the rulings that I have received in the Trump University civil case, I feel justified in questioning whether I am receiving a fair trial.

    Over the past few weeks, I have watched as the media has reported one inaccuracy after another concerning the ongoing litigation involving Trump University. There are several important facts the public should know and that the media has failed to report.

    Throughout the litigation my attorneys have continually demonstrated that students who participated in Trump University were provided a substantive, valuable education based upon a curriculum developed by professors from Northwestern University, Columbia Business School, Stanford University and other respected institutions. And, the response from students was overwhelming.

    Over a five year period, more than 10,000 paying students filled out surveys giving the courses high marks and expressing their overwhelming satisfaction with Trump University’s programs. For example:
    Continue reading ?

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-issues-statement-regarding-trump-university-lawsuit-and-la-raza-judge-curiel/#more-117188

  156. calli

    From the Hovergimp article:

    The sculpture’s sheer size, intricacy and detail is a marvel, but the artwork also offers a deeper commentary about morality and the church’s relationship with sex.

    Of course it does.

    Or…it could provide a deeper commentary on the artist’s attitude to sex.

  157. Grigory M

    There you go – jumping to conclusions again.

    The promo for Mental Health Week shows it with an “s” – elisabeth wakeford

    Maybe it’s just the computer desk at Hunter New England Health that misspelt it with a “z” when they set up her email.

  158. Entropy

    Sky scrolling headline says that the Great Abbottbeast says he is still friends with the back stabbing bishop

    One of Abbott’s many fatal flaws is not knowing when it is appropriate to not turn the other cheek.

  159. Top Ender

    Canberra residents will become the first in the nation to pay a domestic violence tax, after the ACT government announced it would levy households $30 a year to fund an “unprecedented” $21.4 million reform package.

    Some of the comments under the article in the Oz:

    Wow the ACT government imposes a tax for more Judges, Lawyers and bureaucrats. That is amazing news.

    Rick

    A regressive tax from a socialist government. Says it all.

    Mark

    What a load of tosh. I have been married for 28 years to my lovely wife, have never laid a finger on her and we have never even had a fight etc. This does not mean we see eye to eye on everything however. Under the proposed guidelines in this article merely by disagreeing on an issue one of us could say that we were impacted emotionally or psychologically and that could constitute domestic violence. Yes domestic violence is ugly but why should we all pay a tax for it. Let the offenders pay and limit it to violence not disagreements.

    Paul

    Its just the beginning, next year it will be 50 dollars and then 80 and on it goes.

    Dom
    It couldn’t happen to a better bunch of loons who live in the sterile place. Make it $1000 a head.

    Santo
    They voted the pollies in. This is what you get.

    Margaret

    @Santo No we didn’t vote them in. Bob Hawke held two referendums and both times the people of the ACT said they didn’t want self government. We were happy with the 2 Senators who looked after the Territories affairs. However Bob Hawke and the ALP knew better and we got self government with all the hangers on that we have to pay for out of our taxes.

  160. Tom

    My Blairquote of the day:

    “What if everyone were given money for nothing?” asks Fairfax’s Peter Hartcher.

    The answer: everyone would be working for Fairfax.

  161. C.L.

    Domestic violence latest:

    Muslims Burn 19 Yazidi Girls Alive For Refusing to Have Sex With Them.

    Yeah but at least they weren’t saying ‘guy’ or wearing blue ties – so you won’t hear anything about this from Australian feminists.

  162. Srr,

    One for you today from my blog – Trump vs Curiel. Hope ya like it.

  163. Bruce of Newcastle

    More and more is coming out about Judge Gonzalo Curiel. Here are two overnight articles, from Pat Buchannan and Hannity:

    The Donald & The La Raza Judge

    On May 27, Curiel, at the request of The Washington Post, made public plaintiff accusations against Trump University — that the whole thing was a scam. The Post, which Bob Woodward tells us has 20 reporters digging for dirt in Trump’s past, had a field day.

    Here’s We Know About Gonzalo Curiel, The Judge In The ‘Trump University’ Case

    Judge Curiel has donated to Democrats in the past including house Democratic Conference Chairman, California Representative Xavier Becerra.

    I think Ryan has just faceplanted big time. Again.

  164. egg_

    Maybe it’s just…

    The septicmass posting as the Gargoyle?

  165. Grigory M

    Yup, which Google obviously makes allowances for

    Nup – its not Soundex – it just looks for and finds instances of whatever you actually type in. Do folks actually pay you to do computer stuff? Maybe they need an appointment with Elisabeth. 😉

  166. egg_

    Yup, which Google obviously makes allowances for

    Nup

    Wrong again, troll.

  167. Notafan

    If I can reference the culture wars.

    I think the brain sex argument will be used to deny that men who think that they are women perceive women through a masculine lense.

    As for Ward and the new improved bullying, ‘you will accept the new gender is a learned experience ‘ I notice that the McGregor was social media back lashed for failing to fall into line and doubled down. That is better than the usual groveling back down we see.

    Transgender lack of solidarity aside McGregor retweeted, with approval, I assume, a story on an Israeli trans model ‘why I’m not having surgery.’

    ‘I have a boyfriend and I’m happy expressing my femininity as I am’

    Seems like permanent pre op is the the new thing.

    In reality McGregor, while ostentatiously rejecting queer theory, actually subscribes to it, perhaps nodding along sagaciously to the brain sex theorists, either way the outcome is the same, we are whatever we feel.

    All bask in their superiority; more feminine that any female, more motherly than any mother, more girlish than any giggling thirteen year old, more beautiful than any super model and smarter than a Turnbull, and with man bits.

    What a package.

    You can be all you want but just stop expecting the rest of us to play along, and stay away from our children.

  168. Snoopy

    Bolt’s post on Sotomayor claiming that being Hispanic affects judicial decision making is a hoot.

  169. Notafan

    I left off

    More lesbian than any bull dyke.

  170. Grigory M

    Wrong again

    lol – c’mon, ‘fess up, tard – no-one actually pays you to do computer stuff, do they?

  171. Ken Oath

    I reckon that Angela Merkle may well become Europes next Hitler, but not for the reasons you may think.

    And I’m the nutter? Now to really screw with your head, I agree with you on Merkel.

  172. Baldrick

    Muslims Burn 19 Yazidi Girls Alive For Refusing to Have Sex With Them.

    Obviously a Ramadan think.

    Eating and drinking during the day, not a good look. Burning people alive, acceptable.

  173. egg_

    What’s your line of work, Gargoyle?
    Who was the retired Mechanical Engineer you mentioned?

  174. Tom

    An excellent tabloid front page. H/T Blot.

  175. calli

    Am I missing something here?

    I thought the Libby Wakeford stuff was less about the spelling of her name and more about exaggerating her connectivity problems to give Windsor an opportunity to spruik his NBN platform.

    In other words, she was a plant. Something previously unknown in Q&A audiences /sarc.

  176. egg_

    My guess: a middle-level Public Servant in Newcastle with a chip on his shoulder, who pretends to know all – including (the world’s most sophisticated) search algorithms – whose simple mind likens Google to sh1te written in BASIC.

  177. egg_

    Am I missing something here?

    The troll’s ego.

  178. egg_

    she was a plant.

    Her connectivity claims alone were preposterous.

  179. Am I missing something here?

    I thought the Libby Wakeford stuff was less about the spelling of her name and more about exaggerating her connectivity problems to give Windsor an opportunity to spruik his NBN platform.

    In other words, she was a plant. Something previously unknown in Q&A audiences /sarc.

    I’m just world-weary over Windsor’s continuing pork barreling, (the hospital money). He is such an utter bare-faced piece of shit but the problem is that he is in such good company. How long has he been a politician for? 20 years? The fact that someone like him has prospered in our political system shows how utterly shit it all is.

  180. Grigory M

    retired Mechanical Engineer

    No changing the subject, tard – you’re actually the computer help desk jockey at Hunter New England Health, aren’t you? God help them – no wonder Elisabeth can’t access her gmail.

  181. egg_

    retired Mechanical Engineer

    Initials DRM?
    Surname Mac…

  182. egg_

    retired Mechanical Engineer

    The one you had coffee with, don’t be coy.

  183. Baldrick

    Canberra residents will become the first in the nation to pay a domestic violence tax, after the ACT government announced it would levy households $30 a year to fund an “unprecedented” $21.4 million reform package.

    Ablutions Equality Tax now!

  184. dweezy2176

    Although I find that Great White pix incredible unless its a camera thing it seems quite a distance from the surfer …… surprised he, actually, saw it .. he’s looking the other way!

  185. Here’s a headline blurb from The Australian this morning:

    A Chinese lawyer has had his clothes all but ripped off in a beating by tipstaffs for standing his grand.

    Is that supposed to be English? Can anyone decipher that?

  186. Grigory M

    Initials DRM?
    Surname Mac…

    Tard? MDF maybe – but that’s for doing woodwork stuff. Stop trying to change the subject – it’s very important that we establish why folk would shell out to you for dodgy computer work, when you can’t even get an email address correct and don’t know what Soundex is or how search engines work. Heck – there was a lady on Q & A who couldn’t access suicide watch help for her daughter and had to go to Newcastle – no wonder, with you in charge of the help desk. When are you gonna fix Elisabeth’s gmail?

  187. JC

    Stop talking shit yourself, Adam.
    Australians aren’t shit. You most definitely are though Mr PUA.

    No one knew who Tony Wimdsor was until the lying slapper lost the 2010 election and she need the old queen to get her over the line.

    Despite all the pork barrelling for his electorate the old faggot pulled out because he surmised he couldn’t win as people realised what a treacherous bastard he was.

  188. Old School Conservative

    surprised he, actually, saw it .. he’s looking the other way!

    From the Australian: “Surfer Daniel Caban, 20, was oblivious to the shark even after it breached behind the breakers until people on shore started yelling at him to come in.”

  189. JC

    Nailed it Adam.

    Thanks for helping me, Mr Snoopy.

  190. Grigory M

    I find that Great White pix incredible unless its a camera thing it seems quite a distance from the surfer …… surprised he, actually, saw it .. he’s looking the other way!

    Yes – it looks like it’s been Photoshopped. And “he”, the surfer, actually looks like a “she”.

  191. Geriatric Mayfly

    June 8 1979
    The marriage[Marianne Faithful to Ben Brierly] – we were late. Marianne looking radiant, nervous, wonderful – her voice carried better than his and when she was told Nicholas [her son] was too young to sign as a witness she said, ‘Never mind, darling, next time I get married.’ I wish them luck. Ossis Clark

  192. JC,

    You seem obsessed. Would you like a hanky? Hint – it’s not for tears.

  193. JC

    PUA

    Not obsessed at all, doofus. This is a discussion board and as been for the past 15 years.

    If a person thinks someone has made a shit comment, they often do and should feel free to say so.

    Deal with it dickhead, or perhaps fuck off back to Bolts.

    I do enjoy picking on you though. You could become another basil.

    Let me repeat. The old queer only became a nationally known figure after the 2010 election.

  194. srr

    Adam
    #2050900, posted on June 8, 2016 at 8:13 am
    Srr,

    One for you today from my blog – Trump vs Curiel. Hope ya like it.
    https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2016/06/07/trump-vs-curiel/

    Excellent.

    Now please try to warn Cernovich that Scott Adam’s is no one’s friend, and is actively/hypnotically, leading Mike out of his God given common senses.

    Of course the evil hypnotist has already made him resistant to hearing it, so maybe recommend him some good studies into the evil hypnotists of history, for his self awakening.

    It would be a shame to lose him to their side, so quickly.

    It bothers me that so many otherwise canny people can’t see through Adams. Maybe you have to have evil professional hypnotists in your family to be able to recognise and know to run a mile from such monsters.

  195. jupes

    In a must read article, Roger Franklin uses the example of ‘The Blackest Day in Australian Sport’ to show how TLS and her sycophants arranged distractions to take the heat off her involvement in union shenanigans, in a long winded way of criticising David Morrison.

    While it is very apt to remind people of this disgraceful episode, Franklin missed recounting another example of TLS’ distractions that should have been recalled for his article.

    If I recall correctly, just as TLS was copping maximum flack for her ridiculous ‘blue tie’ speech, up popped General Morrison to announce an enquiry into an Army email scandal and to tell misogynist soldiers to “GET OUT!”

    While this was perfect timing for TLS – as the focus turned to misogyny rather than her incompetence – the timing for Morrison’s release of the video is curious to say the least. Apparently the investigation had been going for months but was still not complete. Why did he release it at the exact time TLS needed back up for her complaints about misogyny?

    Coincidence?

  196. egg_

    but that’s for doing woodwork stuff

    So you know the Hunter woodworking group?

  197. Des Deskperson

    “Canberra residents will become the first in the nation to pay a domestic violence tax, after the ACT government announced it would levy households $30 a year to fund an “unprecedented” $21.4 million reform package.”

    There is no evidence that domestic violence in the ACT is any worse than in other jurisdictions, although this won’t stop other jurisdictions imposing similar levels.

    Rather, the tax is a populist and heavy handed response to a particularly brutal murder in 2015, in which 28 year old Tara Costigan was murdered by her 40 year old partner while breastfeeding their newborn. This murder has, as they say ‘galvanised the community’.

    While it in no way mitigates the violence, one of the issues that has emerged is Ms Costigan’s apparently very bad judgement when it came to a partner. I wonder how the money raised from the tax will address this particular issue.

  198. Snoopy

    JC, people in NSW had heard of Windsor long before. You were fortunate to miss his performance on QANDA. His MO was to promise all things to all people. FTTH to EVERY premises. It’s a right, doncha know? A St Vincent’s in every town? No problem.

  199. egg_

    Grigory M
    #2050926, posted on June 8, 2016 at 8:48 am

    Your dossier is obviously p1ss poor.

  200. JC

    One other thing, PUA?

    Unrless I’m mistaken all “shit” Australians don’t get to vote for the old lezzo. I think electorates do, right?

    We all know how rural electorates are basically interest groups to funnel money from the cities to them. That s the entire reason for national party existence.

    How are we shit people if the locals decide the old queer would be better at stealing?

  201. egg_

    it’s very important that we establish

    Grandiosity much?

  202. MV, I went to the site you recommended, but they want my credit card details.
    Reluctant to hand them over, is this a scam?

  203. egg_

    Soundex is a phonetic algorithm for indexing names by sound, as its name implies.

    What a disingenuous tard.

  204. Senile Old Guy

    There is no evidence that domestic violence in the ACT is any worse than in other jurisdictions, although this won’t stop other jurisdictions imposing similar levels. Rather, the tax is a populist and heavy handed response to a particularly brutal murder in 2015…

    Unlike the ACT, other states/territories have been known to actually vote out the ALP in favour of other parties. This may cause the governments of ‘other jurisdictions’ to pause before enacting a policy which is likely to be anything but popular.

  205. Grigory M

    So you know the Hunter woodworking group?

    Tard, I know of Hunters and Collectors – but I never bought any of their music. Stop trying to change the subject. Blow-in pretend computer people like you give the Hunter a bad name. You should apologize to Elisabeth and find a real computer person to fix her email and gmail.

  206. Snoopy

    How is tax levied in the ACT?

  207. Grigory M

    Soundex is a phonetic algorithm for indexing names by sound, as its name implies.

    So you can google – good for you, tard – at least that’s a start.

  208. How are we shit people if the locals decide the old queer would be better at stealing?

    Hey Cuck,

    If you want to think of yourself as shit that’s fine by me.

  209. Tom

    From Dow Jones via the Oz — totalitarian left media latest:

    BuzzFeed has cancelled an advertising deal with the Republican National Committee because of the tone and substance of presumptive nominee Donald Trump’s campaign, BuzzFeed Chief Executive Jonah Peretti said on Monday.

    Mr Peretti described the move as a business decision that wouldn’t influence the website’s political coverage.

    In a memo to staffers at the digital media company, Mr Peretti said Mr Trump’s campaign “is directly opposed to the freedoms of our employees in the United States and around the world and in some cases, such as his proposed ban on international travel for Muslims, would make it impossible for our employees to do their jobs.”

    The BuzzFeed agreement, signed in April when Mr Trump appeared poised to lock up the nomination, accounted for less than $US1.5 million in ad spending, according to an RNC official, though no money had changed hands yet. A BuzzFeed spokeswoman declined to comment on the price of the arrangement. A representative for Mr Trump couldn’t be immediately reached for comment.

    “Space was reserved on many platforms, but we never intended to use Buzzfeed,” Sean Spicer, chief strategist and communications director at the RNC, said in an emailed statement.

    Politico earlier reported on the deal’s termination.

    Mr Peretti said that while the company doesn’t like to turn away revenue, “In some cases we must make business exceptions: we don’t run cigarette ads because they are hazardous to our health, and we won’t accept Trump ads for the exact same reason.”

    This is the bit I like best:

    Mr Peretti described the move as a business decision that wouldn’t influence the website’s political coverage.

    … which needs translation:

    Mr Peretti said he’d thought of the idea of accepting Trump ads while running a vicious editorial campaign of smears and lies against him, but Buzzfeed’s low-info mongoloid readership might have misunderstood the Alinskyist duplicity and burnt his business down.

  210. calli

    A quick reading of Windsor’s wiki bio gives you a blueprint for a scoundrel and chancer.

    Joyce’s scalp will be the next for his collection.

    In his favour – he didn’t drone on for 17 minutes in 2010, prentending the decision was difficult.

    And jupes, I think you are on the money. Makes you wonder how many go-to squids she had put by for emergencies.

  211. Hydra

    I always laugh whenever I see a liberal commenter say that the GOP is racist.

  212. Now please try to warn Cernovich that Scott Adam’s is no one’s friend, and is actively/hypnotically, leading Mike out of his God given common senses.

    Mike needs to ride Scott’s coat-trails to greater glory. He ain’t getting off that bandwagon any time soon.

  213. JC

    How are we shit people if the locals decide the old queer would be better at stealing?

    Hey Cuck,

    If you want to think of yourself as shit that’s fine by me.

    For a prospective alpha you don’t appear to have much intestinal fortitude .

    You called Australians shit. In was protesting that.

  214. You called Australians shit. In was protesting that.

    Cuck,

    I called Australian politics shit. You lack reading ability. Or you like using strawmen. Actually I think it’s a bit of both.

  215. Snoopy

    The successful deployment of go-to squids (?) requires a cooperative press gallery and she had that.

  216. lol, look at this clown.
    Two days arguing that men should be allowed to muscle their way into the local girls change rooms “I’m totally a moderate, I don’t care”.
    Nice try but no.

    Two stix, Mayan came onto the site full of piss and vinegar, trying to steamroll the responders into accepting its view of the transgender issue.
    When there was considerable and justified pushback, tried to keep the bluff going.
    That didn’t work either.
    Then came the chameleon change.
    Suddenly became the “reasonable expert’ on all things deviant.
    Still didn’t work, so now is trying to be ‘one of the mob.’
    Mayan soiled its reputation and thinks recovery is possible, but it isn’t.

  217. jupes

    One for you today from my blog – Trump vs Curiel. Hope ya like it.

    Excellent article Adam. Keep ’em coming.

  218. val majkus

    Windsor certainly pork barrelled for his electorate in 2010 as you can see from this letter to him from Gillard http://resources.news.com.au/files/2010/09/07/1225915/538418-gillard-letter-to-windsor.pdf

  219. Tom

    Speaking of duplicity, the latest from the coward-in-chief (Paywallian):

    If you’re going to be grilled, would you rather a sizzling from 100 undecided voters or a roasting by Leigh Sales? Malcolm Turnbull is choosing the latter.

    Mr Turnbull has declined an invitation to join Labor leader Bill Shorten in a televised people’s forum at the Broncos Leagues Club in Brisbane this evening. Instead he will face off against Sales on ABC TV.

    Hey, voters: you don’t matter.

  220. Grigory M

    A quick reading of Windsor’s wiki bio gives you a blueprint for a scoundrel and chancer.

    Scurrilous.

  221. Excellent article Adam. Keep ’em coming.

    Jupes,

    I’d say thanks but then JC would start jerking off into a hanky again and nobody wants to see that.

  222. Geriatric Mayfly

    If anyone has a spare 12 minutes they want to fritter away go to David Thompson’s site. Trigger warning – you will never get those 12 minutes back. The profundities of Queer Experimental Film are on display, in a “terribly radical rendition of Les Miserables.” It is so abysmal, horrific, vacuous and decadent that it might even scandalise Ross Ward.

  223. MV, I went to the site you recommended, but they want my credit card details.
    Reluctant to hand them over, is this a scam?

    You’ll have to be more specific, Winston. I linked to two sites, neither of which is a “scam”. Neither ask for credit card details. However, both are regularly, partially hacked and/or mirrored. Here are the links again – I have just tested them in the preview pane.
    Battleship. AdBlock.

    Both work fine. Remember to install Adblock first, before you go near the movie site. After installation, restart your browser so it takes effect. Then go to the movie.

    If you are still ending up at somewhere different that is asking for credit card details, then you already have some kind of redirect malware on your system.

  224. Des Deskperson

    ‘How is tax levied in the ACT?’

    Forty-one percent of ACT government revenue is Commonwealth grants. Thirty-two percent comes from ACT legislated jurisdictional taxes, which is mainly payroll taxes, residential and commercial rates payments, motor vehicle registration, conveyancing and gambling taxes. Much of the rest comes from sales of Territory-owned land. Its largest employer, the APS, pays no payroll tax.

    In the long run, the ACT as a separate jurisdiction is financially unsustainable. The ACT Government tries to stave this off through shoddy revenue raising schemes such as the Mr Fluffy’ response, increased charges for services, and cramming as many residences as it can into smaller blocks of land.

  225. val majkus

    Only one thing gets my goat. It’s seeing Windsor signs on electricity poles in towns.

    hey Armadillo he’s not advertising on tv so that may be the cheaper alternative

  226. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Custard –

    Lower Taxes.

    Smaller Government.

    Less Government spending.

    Welfare is there as a safety net, not a lifestyle choice.

  227. If anyone has a spare 12 minutes they want to fritter away go to David Thompson’s site.

    I thought the artwork in the comments was just as disturbing. Their taxes at work.

  228. Woolfe

    Adam,
    I have never read Hemingway, which book would be the best to start with?

  229. Grigory M

    jerking off into a hanky

    FFS – grow up. This is not South Park.

  230. jupes

    I’d say thanks but then JC would start jerking off into a hanky again and nobody wants to see that.

    I don’t think anybody wants to see anything from that old fruit.

  231. val majkus

    this is the story behind the medical question on Q & A http://www.northerndailyleader.com.au/story/3955164/questions-tug-at-heart-strings/?cs=159
    cut and paste in part

    Ms Kibble is an active campaigner for health services following a diagnosis of hepatitis C that left her severely ill.

    While she’s since been given the all clear, she says there was a point where things “turned really bad” and she was unable to access potentially lifesaving treatment, but not without the persistent efforts of her dedicated local doctors and support staff.

    “All I needed was access to drugs – that was all I needed,”she said.

    “There were drugs becoming available but weren’t on the PBS yet. There were drugs that the government was in negotiations to have released in Australia.

    “And the only place I could get access to these was in Sydney.”

    “My doctor here in Tamworth tried really hard to get me on to the compassionate access program. I know he did.

    “But no one cares if you’re outside Newcastle, Sydney or Wollongong

    It was such a generalised question IMO that it couldn’t really be addressed properly – you couldn’t tell if the questioner expected chemotherapy, radiology or other treatments to be readily available in the bush

  232. val majkus

    I have never read Hemingway, which book would be the best to start with?

    ‘the Old Man and the Sea’ – it’s short but great and you’ll get a sense of the Hemingway style (which IMV is very like Jack London’s in that short story)

  233. Adam,
    I have never read Hemingway, which book would be the best to start with?

    Woolfe,

    I’d recommend starting with his short stories. Look up, The Complete Short Stories of Ernest Hemingway: The Finca Vigia Edition on Amazon.

  234. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/terror/program-turning-teens-from-terror-faces-review/news-story/03028fa67e98cb2a000f8663e63603c3

    What about acknowledging the program is a total failure, and if little Mohammad wants to go and fight for ISIS, pack his playlunch, pay his fare, and never let him back into Australia?

    As one commentor says “Give us more money, or we’ll kill you?”

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