You don’t have to wait three years and an election cycle (or two)

Malcolm is gone goose. For those conservatives who wish to see him lose the election, you will regret having what you wish for. There is no possible positive seeing Bill in the Lodge for the next three (six) years. A catastrophe in every way possible. What has astonished me has been just how weak Malcolm has been that has made this more than possible. This, from Andrew Bolt, does not surprise me. It’s filed under Labor surges:

I am hearing that there has been a surge to Labor, so bad that Malcolm Turnbull could be left with a majority of just two seats – a disaster that could finish him. Control of the Senate will be lost for a generation or more.

Laurie Oakes on Channel Nine is also reporting more support for Labor in the marginal seats.

And how has Malcolm Turnbull been campaigning lately? He’s spent more than a week talking about Medicare – a Labor issue – and spent a whole day going to the handover of Aboriginal land. He also infuriated his base by saying Australia was “invaded” and by hosting an end of Ramadan meal with Waleed Aly and Muslim representatives, some of whom believe in stoning adulterers and vilifying gays.

This is Turnbull’s strategy of taking the base for granted taken to ludicrous extremes.

To talk of “Turnbull’s strategy” is to give him more credit than he deserves. He is an incompetent clunk and can only be elected because of the people whose value he is incapable of understanding are there with him. But even if he wins, he will be gone within half a year. He will be gone because he now has no followers. He is too dull-witted to understand this himself, but he will be done over. You can elect him PM and see the Liberal Party renewal happen while in government. There is no need to elect Labor and then wait.

For another view of how pathetic Turnbull has turned out to be, there is this article by David Flint from Quadrant Online: The Withering of Malcolm Turnbull. He gets Malcolm right but I think misses the fact that everyone now gets Malcolm right.

The strategy has to be to get the Libs over the line and then see Malcolm turfed out before the year comes to an end. Whatever he may think, the Turnbull agenda is comprehensively dead. In fact, with Tony gone and Malcolm in his place, the renewal on the right that is taking place across the world which Tony was leading, will now take place in Australia later than anywhere else.

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72 Responses to You don’t have to wait three years and an election cycle (or two)

  1. Rabz

    This is why installing the Waffler was always going to be an unmitigated disaster.

    He is so bad he makes that absolute pillock Peanut Head look good.

    Woeful, just woeful.

  2. Roger

    I am hearing that there has been a surge to Labor, so bad that Malcolm Turnbull could be left with a majority of just two seats – a disaster that could finish him. Control of the Senate will be lost for a generation or more.

    Maladroit Bligh Turnbull Esq. strikes another blow for the Progressive-Left!

    The 54, or what is left of them after the election, should be purged by the new leader.

  3. A Lurker

    I am hearing that there has been a surge to Labor, so bad that Malcolm Turnbull could be left with a majority of just two seats – a disaster that could finish him.

    Personally, I see this as a good thing, a refutation of all that he stands for, a refutation of the Liberal’s turning their backs upon their base, telling us that we don’t matter, in order to chase voters who would never, in a million years, vote for them.

    I see a hung or a near-to-hung Parliament as a good thing. Turnbull might well get rolled. Or the Conservatives could form a bloc within the Liberals, forcing better policy direction from the Regressive Wets. If we are lucky, groups like the ALA, Family First and Indies like Custard if elected, could again force better policy via the Senate.

    In fact, with Tony gone and Malcolm in his place, the renewal on the right that is taking place across the world which Tony was leading, will now take place in Australia later than anywhere else.

    Australia has always been a decade or more behind the rest of the Western world when it comes to major political and social changes.

    The strategy has to be to get the Libs over the line and then see Malcolm turfed out before the year comes to an end.

    The strategy should be to punish the plotters within the Liberal party, and to the rest send a message that they are on notice to pull the Liberals back to the Rational Right.

  4. Big_Nambas

    I voted early and the ALA got the nod. That’s after 50 years of voting LNP. I don’t care who wins as long as Turdbull gets the chop!
    And yes it is worth 3 years of peanut head.

  5. Rabz

    there has been a surge to Labor, so bad that Malcolm Turnbull could be left with a majority of just two seats

    This is a classic example of what’s referred to in politics as “saving the furniture”.

    Great work, Waffler!

  6. candy

    Malcolm Turnbull is basically a ceremonial prime minister, the first one we’ve ever had.

    Put in to look “right”, like an American President on TV shows. Lovely suits, nice smile and well chosen words for every occasion. Like a reassuring govern0r-general type figure. I don’t think Pyne/Bishop/Morrison actually expected him to explain policy much at all. Perhaps they are right and many people will vote for the superficial.

  7. cuckoo

    Is it too much to hope that the Brexit vote will trigger a larger ‘preference cascade’ in the Anglosphere? Once the majority realizes that it is, in fact, the majority and the noisy progressives are a minority, and an encircled one at that, then it’s nighty-night for the likes of Turnbull. For me, two of the most potent images/maps of recent history are the famous satellite photo of the British isles entirely blanketed in snow that the warmists said would never fall again, and the Brexit map of the UK, with England a sea of Leave, surrounding the island of London, and washing against the welfare satrapy of Scotland.

  8. da

    Is Malcolm really ‘dull-witted’ ?
    To me he’s a deeply dithering, fractured person. He’s leading the wrong party and he he’s hoping that if he gets enough approval from the right people Mum will come back and it will all be ok.

  9. YT

    Sorry, fuck Maocolm, and the entire 54 disloyal, timid wets alongside him. His perfidy has to be punished and the ragged pelt nailed to the gate as a warning to others.

  10. Robbo

    Gone within 6 months? Far too long as far as I’m concerned. I want him gone now and that is why there is no way that I’ll be voting Liberal while he remains leader. I don’t care if that hopeless little liar Shorten gets to live in The Lodge for a while because that means that Turnbull has been given the eff off by voters. He is untrustworthy, disloyal, immensely unlikeable, incompetent and nowhere near as smart as he would like us to think. He, and that rabble of 53 mindless Liberal morons who voted to sack Abbott and replace him with that twittering waffler, do not deserve to be in parliament.

  11. gabrianga

    Lord Wentworth’s “Legacy” as Leader of the Opposition combined with being Leader of the Republican movement doesn’t look too bright at the moment.

    But surely the Australian voters couldn’t seriously contemplate the CMFEU puppet on a string, Wee Willie Shorten, as the man to steer Australia to a bright economic future?

    Classic comedy line (unintentional presumably) was Shorten’s take on Turnbull yesterday

    “He (Turnbull) is a weak man beholden to the right wing of his party.”
    (Just ask Abbott?)

    As if he (Shorten) was a tower of strength NOT beholden to his thuggish comrades who run Australia’s major unions.

    Wonder how the banks and the market view 6 years of Shorten ,or Tanya or even Albo?

  12. Harald

    But even if he wins, he will be gone within half a year.

    That’s the crux, right there: the gamble that Turnbull will be gone even if he wins the election – well, wins, .. retains a shrunken majority in the HOR.

    I don’t think the Libs will rid themselves of him voluntarily (A) after a win, and (B) when really the only alternative is Abbott – the man they just turfed out. There are 54 to 56 MP’s in there at the moment who may feel Abbott won’t be their best friend. Only when many of them lose or “retire”, will the numbers turn for sure. But that bring us right back to the Coalition losing seats again: seeing off many of the 54 and losing the election is basically the same thing.

    The problem is that the Libs under (a victorious) Turnbull will act as a progressive party, so there is no conservative party in the lower house. No representation of the conservative view whatever in the lower house.

    Turnbull losing the election outright is the only way to make sure he will be replaced and will never return. Only in the scenario that the Coalition loses the election, at least there is a conservative view represented in the lower house: the Coalition in Opposition.

    Being represented from the Opposition benches, I think, is better than not being represented at all. Abbott, for example, was quite effective from opposition during the Rudd, Gillard, Rudd years.

    I personally prefer not to take the gamble that Turnbull will be removed even if he retain the majority in the lower house. Better make sure he goes (and never comes back) and, yes, pay the price. Given all the bad ideas swirling around in Turnbull’s head, I think we are getting off lightly, actually. Especially if we get an effective opposition and a hung senate to limit the damage a Shorten government.

  13. john constantine

    Their shortfilth was described in the major vicco weekly farm journal as mister five percent, as that was his preferred prime minister rating among the professional agricultural demographic.

    Going for growth through regulation and compliance will be bad under turnmerkel, but bad in a fuddy, muddled and bemused way.

    The methodical gas chamber approach that their shortfilth will take to enriching the progressive movement through grasping control of the assets of the enemy will be an eye opener to those disregarding the spirit of vengeance driving the gormless little rodent.

    Letting their shortfilth into the position of power is like letting little adolf with the poxdoctors moustache get control of the Sudatenland, the Austrian treasury/army and the Czech treasury/army, then trying to remove him.

    Turnmerkel bad, but Saint Barnaby should be able to stop him killing off the australian livestock industry as a trade to their greens.

    It is self interest on my behalf as a grazier, but having the greens control Australian agriculture is less likely with Barnaby in the mix.

    Why do you think their abc is throwing everything at getting rid of Saint Barnaby so they can have a socialist green national take over as deputy to their chosen socialist green prime minister?.

    The nats could go deep green marxist easier than the libfilth did.

  14. H B Bear

    Humour me. Just who exactly is going to lead this right wing surge from within the Liberal Party? Hint – it won’t be Abbott.

    Have a look at the result of pre-selections in the NSW Liberal Party. The whole organisation is an Augean stable of dripping wet panty-bunchers. The next move in this chess game is a true conservative split.

  15. stackja

    MT is MT. MT was never meant to elected PM by the people. MT will quickly disappear.

  16. john constantine

    Crony socialism means the lefties running australian big business luv big unions and big government.

    Not only do big unions and big government crush competition from innovative and agile small business that may have otherwise shaken the complacency of big business, but the executives get to wallow in the social acclaim and exclusive social life available to those that enable their left to get the government to pay for nice things.

    [plus it is a lot easier to tick off social engineering issues in the annual report than bother to run the existing business at optimum levels of efficiency while still bringing in incremental gains.]

  17. Tel

    You must admit there’s a bit of a shortage of talent at the senior levels of the Liberal Party.

    It’s hard to get any feeling of confidence that you are buying into a great team.

  18. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2068945, posted on June 25, 2016 at 12:24 pm

    UAP went away.

  19. Robber Baron

    Nice one Steve. But. Who will lead? Can Abbott rise again? Abbott is only a “social conservative” not a fiscal one. Australia needs a fiscal conservative. Who among the Coalition MPs can be a fiscal conservative and win an election?

  20. pbw

    I am hearing that there has been a surge to Labor…
    Laurie Oakes on Channel Nine is also reporting more support for Labor in the marginal seats.

    I’ll believe it when I see the actual polls. This sounds like disinformation being put about by the likes of Textor in order to elicit just the sort of response that you have generously provided.

    If the situation under Shorten turns out to be as bad as you predict (and I have no reason to disbelieve you) how can you possibly speculate on two terms?

    Thomas Bertonneau over at The Orthosphere posted some of his initial reactions, including this:
    I suspect that newspapers and broadcasting organizations now routinely lie about trending issues in order to influence outcomes – and that they are untrustworthy. In Austria, the Freheits Partei has decided to contest the recent election for the good reason that election officials seem to have colluded with the “Greens” to reverse a plausible actual result – much in the way that Gore’s people in Florida tried to reverse results in their state of the 2000 election.

    I have arrived at the sorry point that I don’t put anything past these bottom-feeders.

  21. pbw

    P.S.

    But even if he wins, he will be gone within half a year.

    Que? He wins the election, then gets rolled? Your wishful thinking is getting the better of your judgment.

  22. Habib

    There’s an awful lot of dripping wets in the Coalition, they’d need to lose those seats wholesale to see this pompous failure turfed, and that’d probably cost them government. Too big a risk, less a one for the latter to occur. A razor thin ALP with a decently hostile senate wouldn’t last a term.

  23. Judith Sloan

    I’m not sure you are right, Steve. The Coalition is holding up very well in NSW and Victoria. It is also travelling well in Brisbane but not regional Qld. WA is a problem and SA is anyone’s game (Labor primary way down there too) irrespective of the dollars thrown at the place. One or two lost seats in Tasmania perhaps.

    So the picture you paint may turn out to be inaccurate in which case Turnbull will feel vindicated, with the unspoken message that the Coalition would have lost had Abbott stayed PM.

    All scenarios are in play.

  24. areff

    The next move in this chess game is a true conservative split.

    Every night, in my prayers

  25. CraftyNipper

    A likely young Lad spoke of his Dad
    His credentials he anxious to air
    To win an election faced with rejection
    By Del-cons repelled in despair.
    He relied on a pollster who said it’d bolster
    His standing with voters like Greens
    But to his dismay is finding that they
    Wouldn’t vote for him in their dreams.

  26. Steve, you seem to be saying that the only thing wrong with the Liberal Party is Turdbull.
    Just get rid of Turdbull and a beautiful Liberal Party will emerge, like a butterfly from its cocoon.
    News flash Steve. The only thing wrong with the Liberal party is the Liberal Party. Period.
    It’s not Turdbull who needs to go, it’s the Liberal Party in its current form that needs to go.
    Anything less is merely rearranging the deck chairs.

  27. Tor

    The strategy has to be to get the Libs over the line…

    No, Steve, here we part. The strategy has to be to throw the Libs out. Every last one of them if we can, the good, the bad and the indifferent alike.

    Australia may not yet be terminally rooted, but it’s well on the way — under either of the present senior parties (ALP and Libs). Because the Liberals’ national machine has openly become a party of the left, we’re about to get a foul, unpalatable turd sandwich of a government no matter what.

    The critical difference is that if we force a gagsome dose of political castor oil upon the Libs then, after the necessarily brutal and savage purging, in two years’ time the next generation of Lib politicians might (possibly) wake up to their traditional voters and natural allies.

    As for me, I will no longer hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. Not when I know that the present generation of Libs will simply betray the country’s interests at a slower pace than the other guys.

    So, having voted early this year, in the House it was Libs last, behind ALP and the Greens. In the Senate, I placed my otherwise excellent Lib senator behind all other conservative options.

    Sure, this approach will lead to a left-wing government that will reduce our rights, further damage the economy, and otherwise undermine the national interest. But we’re getting that regardless. At least by smashing the Libs now, there’s hope things will turn around in the future. Otherwise, no hope at all: under Labor and Libs alike, we’ll just keep ratcheting left, lefter and leftest.

    The time to draw the line is now, in 2016. There are no acceptable voting options. Since we have to to wear the pain, why not get it over with? Otherwise we face it at the next election from an even worse political position.

  28. classical_hero

    “This time it’s really a vote for the lesser of two evils.”

  29. candy

    I think that’s very true what Ms Sloan says above.

    MT only has to win by one seat and he will feel it’s a mandate to carry out any of his policies/ideas, which he is keeping hidden right now.
    I still think the plebiscite will go out the window. I don’t think MT would want to risk a “no” vote which is still a strong proposition, to my mind, even around 50/50. He’s a tremendous supporter of same sex marriage. To be defeated in the plebiscite would make him very cranky.

  30. Publius

    Let me get this right…we should help get Mao-colm over the line in the hope that the most pompous buffoon to ever lead the Libs will humbly resign afterwards when it dawns on him how shi*t he is post the election where he has just had a win? Ya right.

  31. Toiling Mass

    a refutation of the Liberal’s turning their backs upon their base,

    This is what I would like to see – wets purged by the electorate with the remaining being more on the right.

    Let them know their strength is on the right without ever actually having to learn it.

  32. MT only has to win by one seat and he will feel it’s a mandate to carry out any of his policies/ideas, which he is keeping hidden right now.

    You think? I thought he’d made himself plain as day on everything from climate change to a Republic. Three years of Turdbull with his own “mandate” will see much wailing and gnashing of teeth from the “vote Liberal ‘cos at least they’re not Labor” crowd, who aren’t going to know what hit them.

  33. Anonandon

    You may be right Steve, but I don’t think I’ll take the chance. Short term pain, long term gain. Go peanut head, do your worst.

  34. candy

    You think? I thought he’d made himself plain as day on everything from climate change to a Republic.

    He has memoryvault but in the campaign he mentions none of it, because it will annoy the conservatives.
    He’s just hiding it all. He only needs to win by one seat and feel justified that he has a mandate for anything as he saved Liberals from losing under TA. That’s the unspoken message, as Ms Sloan mentioned. I’m sure the Turnbull Party is fully aware of what it means if he wins.

    Change of party name, for one thing, to the Turnbull Coalition, and out the door with Liberal National party name. On the cards.

  35. Linden

    If you let a crew like the ‘chaser gang’ hang shit on you and stand back and doing absolutely nothing, then he deserves everything he gets from them!

  36. Baldrick

    My vote will go to the best Party I see that advocates small government and less taxes, which does not include Liberal or Labor.

    The cards will fall where they may and we’ll all have to deal with the consequences.

  37. Harald

    The problem with the Liberal Party isn’t Malcolm Turnbull. He’s not a cause. He’s a consequence.

    The problem is that a majority of 54 of Lib MP’s thought Malcolm Turnbull would make a good Prime Minister of a Coalition government. Even after he failed miserably in the leadership once before.

    That is the problem which needs to be tackled: The content of the party room needs a shake up. But that means voting people out – quite a few. Which, in turn, means losing the election. So we are looking at a lost election, at least one, to change the party room.

    If we have to lose an election to shake out the party room, let me point out this:
    Scenario 1:
    Coalition Win: A progressive Turnbull Coalition Gov’t, “opposed” by a Labor Opposition.
    Scenario 2:
    Coalition Loss: A Labor Government, opposed by an Abbott-led Coalition Opposition.

    Comparing scenario’s 1 and 2:
    All I keep hearing: Shorten will be a disaster, yada yada. But that is only half the story. The opportunity cost of voting out Wet Libs in large numbers has not been lower in recent memory than it is now. The difference between the 2 election outcomes has never meant less.

    So if the bastards need to be voted out, the time is now, I guess.

  38. tbh

    Steve, I read the exact opposite in the OZ this morning. What I saw was that the polling in the key marginals had the ALP picking up way too few seats to form government. I also think that the electorate is starting to turn on Shorten (rightly so). A month ago I wouldn’t have given Lord Wentworth any chance, but I reckon he may well pull this off now.

  39. Nanuestalker

    “[Turnbull] Probably the best PM eva” – Carlsberg Sinclair Davidson

  40. Tor

    Note to moderator — if you do publish my earlier comment, would you please bump it to the present time (so that it doesn’t get lost hours behind in the posting)?

    Thanks!

  41. mem

    The problem is that a majority of 54 of Lib MP’s thought Malcolm Turnbull would make a good Prime Minister of a Coalition government.

    In my view the problem was that 54 Libs lacked the courage to stick with their leader and back him all the way. Instead they listened to Turnbull’s come hither whispers and to the leftist media that Turnbull had jollied up with assistance from the traitorous leaking Bishop. What a snivelling bunch of self serving cowards. A pox on them all.

  42. Marcus

    I’ve come to the conclusion that it really doesn’t matter who wins the election for the most part. Assuming the Liberals win, they’ll probably be able to get the ABCC legislation through, but apart from that, watching a re-elected Turnbull try to deal with an even bigger cross-bench is going to be hilarious. It will be a pyrrhic victory if ever there was one, and if/when Turnbull gets replaced by (presumably) Scott Morrison in a year or so, we’ll reflect on how his lack of political judgement made David Cameron look like John Howard.

  43. JohnA

    The strategy has to be to get the Libs over the line and then see Malcolm turfed out before the year comes to an end. Whatever he may think, the Turnbull agenda is comprehensively dead. In fact, with Tony gone and Malcolm in his place, the renewal on the right that is taking place across the world which Tony was leading, will now take place in Australia later than anywhere else.

    And the time will be when the Parliamentary Liberal Party gathers in a room to fill all the vacant posts, including that of Party Leader.

    If the margin is razor-thin (say, 2 seats minus the Speaker, as is posited), then the reason for changing leaders mid-stream will have been torpedoed and the so-called stability will be absent.

    No need to sound stupid by saying “Mal led us to a great victory” because both the electorate and the party machine will apply the manifestly appropriate Peter principle..

  44. Jo Smyth

    All of this could have been so easily avoided. If only Textor and the Waffler’s supporters had listened to the people who do matter.

  45. incoherent rambler

    I intend to honour my vow never to vote for the Liberal Party while Turnbull and J. Bishop remain a part of the parliamentary party.

    Therefore the Libs will be last on my HoR ballot paper and not mentioned on the senate ballot.

    My view is that I would prefer 3 years of peamut rather than 1 more day of Herr Luftwaffle.
    It will be interesting to see how many silent (or at least quiet) voters share my view.

    Not long to wait and find out.

  46. Kool Aid Kid

    So Bolt and others want Labour to win because the Liberal Party installed Turnbull? This alone is an excellent reason to ignore such people. As Tony Abbott told Bolt during his pestering attempts to have him fuel Labor claims: wrecking the country is not ever an option to be promoted.
    These are difficult times and Labor proposes at every point of difficulty to retreat from challenges.

  47. Botswana O'Hooligan

    Thanks Harald, you nailed it for turnbull is not the typhoid Mary of the coalition, he is the consequence of a whole bunch of typhoid Mary’s. The party is buggered and its time for another Menzies type change.

  48. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The party is buggered and its time for another Menzies type change.

    I’d like to think so,Botswana, but the worry I have is that far too high a percentage of the population is on the public teat for there to be a party which wants to cut Government spending, reduce taxation, and understand what Menzies understood – the right of a man who made a quid to spend it how he wanted to, and that the bigger the economic cake, the more of it there was to go round.

  49. min

    The world economy is going to hell in a hand basket ,whoever wins is going to have a recession to deal with or something worse and they will be left to save Australia . What more pink bats and school halls on borrowed money?

  50. john constantine

    Their shortfilth has let slip that western sydney is the blueprint of their lefts plans for Australia.

    Not paid parental leave, just be a paid parental.

    Import enough welfare clients for their ‘helping and saving’ industry to make a killing, ruddstyle, from govvie contracts and for their creatures infesting the australian electoral commission to redistribute electorates from little obsolete’ built it and paid for it’ Australia to debt funded imported australia.

    Their plan to have ‘little merkelgrads’ adorning all of Australias cities is unstoppable demographically once a welfare settlement is established.

    Simply creating the infrastructure and employing the helpers and savers creates the demand for clients.

  51. .

    Kool Aid Kid
    #2069180, posted on June 25, 2016 at 4:06 pm
    So Bolt and others want Labour to win because the Liberal Party installed Turnbull? This alone is an excellent reason to ignore such people.

    Indeed. He had a soft spot for Gillard as well.

  52. .

    cuckoo
    #2068926, posted on June 25, 2016 at 12:05 pm
    Is it too much to hope that the Brexit vote will trigger a larger ‘preference cascade’ in the Anglosphere?

    Yes.

  53. Motelier

    The libs have no chance of being a conservative party while the rank and file have been taken over by “wets” and conservationists. The primary vote of the libs is going to drop. This will cost the party bucks from the taxpayer.

    But until conservatives get back in control at a local level then the only hope is that more conservative voters vote for the smaller conservative parties, think ALA and FF.

    The best hope for me is a hung parliament and a truely disruptive senate.

    If that happens I will be investing heavily in popcorn sales.

  54. BrettW

    So far Labor clearly winning in the propaganda/advertising area. I am seeing and hearing far more Labor stuff than Coalition.

    Grace Collier had a good article in the Oz today saying Turnbull had so much he could throw at Shorten (ie. Unions power,m Shortens own evidence in TURC etc). Where is the ad featuring a real Clean Event worker whose penalty rates were sold out by Shorten ? Whilst Labor spend huge money on blatant lies Turnbull’s side just goes with the boring old vote me for stuff. Or where is the ad showing Leigh Sales grilling Shorten on his Medicare lies ? How about an ad urging people to think about the motives of Union people calling and lying to scare them at home ? Simply no fight or aggression. A bit more fight might have saved a couple of seats.

    Pathetic campaign advertising by Coalition.

  55. About a year ago, a lot of Cats – I amongst them – were saying that the Australian political class were going to destroy the country. Many agreed that if it were going to happen, then the sooner the better.
    “It is no kindness to hang a man slowly.”
    (Some bloke said this.)
    Vote Labor and get it over with.
    Get rid of Malcolm, break up the Liberal Party, and let the Phoenix arise.

  56. Ellen of Tasmania

    Peter Hitchens on Brexit:

    “This vote has shown that both Tory and Labour Parties are dead, do not represent their voters, and no longer reflect the real division in this country. Both should have been wound up years ago. Neither ought to survive this. This vote has been a vote against the existing political system and elite, and against the two political parties which have arrogantly misgoverned the country for decades.”

    Surely we need the same result here? The LibLabs are so busy fawning to the regressive PC agenda, they seem oblivious of their voting base.

    Mr Turnbull represents all that is wrong with our not-really-two political parties.

  57. H B Bear

    Pathetic campaign advertising by Coalition.

    The Libs had a great KRudd v Peanut Head on boats and queue jumpers ad on Facebook. Don’t watch enough TV to know whether they are running it there or not.

  58. P

    Surely we need the same result here? The LibLabs are so busy fawning to the regressive PC agenda, they seem oblivious of their voting base.

    Mr Turnbull represents all that is wrong with our not-really-two political parties.

    One thing he did that was wrong IMO was to host an Iftar dinner to mark the holy month of Ramadan at Kirribilli House.
    N.B.
    HALAL caterers brought some crockery in for the Prime Minister’s Kirribilli House Ramadan feast, with devout Muslims preferring not to eat from cookware and plates used by those who do not comply with Islamic requirements.

    That very night of that Iftar dinner was the Installation of the Fourth Bishop of Parramatta, Vincent Long Van Nguyen OFM ConV, with a very large number of the Vietnamese community of Sydney in attendance.

    MT couldn’t attend way out there at Parra.
    He was busy entertaining 75 the Islamic mob at Kirribilli.

    WDM

  59. Rabz

    Ellen of Tasmania
    #2069241, posted on June 25, 2016 at 5:18 pm

    You and Peter Hitchens* are 100% correct.

    Which is why the proposed solution will never happen.

    *One of my favourite commentators, ever. Infinitely more sensible and dispassionate than his late brother.

  60. Ross B

    Better to suffer Shorten now and be strapped into short term pain than endure what Turnbull will do whether he wins by one seat or ten. That so many are blind to how far his prime ministership has pushed the political spectrum to the left is one of those sad but true realities. The country is fundamentally weakened when conservative opinion is smothered as it is currently. Turnbull is a disaster.

  61. Oh come on

    For those conservatives who wish to see him lose the election, you will regret having what you wish for

    Well that’s a just silly thing to say, isn’t it. Malcolm is campaigning exactly how he governed – ineptly. Why expect anything else?

    Dozens of people, including myself, predicted something like this would come to pass. We said, well before Malcolm rolled Abbott, that Turnbull would make a rubbish, disastrous PM. This is not a case of us being clever after the fact – we’ve been saying this for years.

    Turnbull is so bad that even that Prime Ministerial mouth-breather Kevin Rudd routinely cleaned his clock. So bad that he gifted the most mentally unstable PM in Australian history the longest political honeymoon of any Australian PM ever.

    So bad that a bunch of useless union hacks are running the most transparently false scare campaign about the Libs having a secret plan to privatise Medicare – and it’s working! He’s managed to make this laughable ALP brainfart electorally credible! Incredible!

    Malcolm Turnbull is arguably the most incompetent PM we’ve ever had. Whether it’s him or Shorten, I care not one whit. Is Tweedledum really so much worse than the other dummy?

    Bah, whatever. I’ve got an all-year glow after yesterday’s news. Brexit is like Climategate on heroin in terms of satisfaction. My old man’s English. I can always move there.

  62. Indolent

    I’ve come to the conclusion that it really doesn’t matter who wins the election for the most part.

    On one enormous issue at least it really does matter – boats. Shorten hardly even pretends any more that he will carry on with the current successful policy and, if he did, he’d probably be rolled. No one could despise Turnbull more than me, but 3 years of Labor would mean hundreds of thousands of country shoppers, followed by a second wave of family reunions. Irreversible and highly detrimental to the country.

  63. Oh come on

    The LibLabs are so busy fawning to the regressive PC agenda, they seem oblivious of their voting base.

    Imagine the very real possibility of a Trump Presidency and Boris Johnson in Number 10. It’ll be just like the special Transatlantic Relationship Reagan and Thatcher built all over again.

    All the while, Oz will be sitting in a corner, openly pulling our plonkers while calling out to anyone who’ll listen and insisting we’re a ‘Middle Power That Punches Above Our Weight’ – even shithole African countries will desperately try to avoid eye contact with us and pretend they didn’t notice us as they do a quick 180 and look for more donors somewhere else. How embarrassing.

  64. Rob MW

    He will be gone because he now has no followers.

    But here’s the problem; he did have enough party followers for his cowardly rise. That say’s more about the lack of personal principles of the party’s hacks than anything else. In any event, too little too late. I should have stopped voting for the unprincipled bastards when Howard destroyed Australia’s land tenure system for votes. Labor and the Greens have wet dreams of doing things like this, and here it is, the unprincipled so-called conservative side does it for them.

    Here’s the thing, it turns out that the Liberals and their welded Nat leeches have historically thieved more private property from their notional constituents than Labor has from it’s notional enemies. Go figure.

  65. Publius

    In preparing for last year’s successful general election, Cameron’s campaign manager Lynton Crosby spoke of scraping “the barnacles off the boat.” The Textor philosophy at play.

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437103/brexit-vote-leave-wins-david-cameron-resigns-eu-referendum

  66. custard

    I have been reminding LNP foot soldiers at the pre-poll booths that the decision to dump the Abbottsatan was the worst decision the LNP possibly has ever made.

    Dumping an opposition leader sure, but dumping a first term PM is unforgivable.

    It said to me that the LNP had become a party driven by polling and popularity rather being driven by principle and good policy.

    The full ramifications of this stupid decision have yet to be played out but I suspect many of the predicted events above are all on the table.

  67. J.H.

    I’m just so disappointed with our Australian Liberal Party at the moment that I am finding it increasingly more difficult to have an interest in them now.

    I don’t quite agree with your assessment with the Liberal ministers getting rid of Turnbull if he scrapes through and wins this election….. They’ll hail Turnbull a hero that saved the day and won the “unwinnable election” and the media will repeat the meme until you vomit.

    Turnbull will just go from strength to strength installing a Statist agenda while he fundamentally changes the Liberal Party, root and branch…… and the media will cheer him ceaselessly.

    There will be no dumping him. It’s over. We lost….. or we will if he wins this election in any shape or form whatsoever.

    There is a good metric now available in which to measure so called “liberals”….. The UK “Brexit” is the greatest thing to happen in Western democracy in contemporary political history, and any elected parliamentarian who doesn’t champion that view, Turnbull doesn’t…. Is not a classical liberal and does not subscribe to true representative rule by the people, of the people, for the people.

    I saw very little joy in a great many elected ministers around the world yesterday at the outcome of the UK “Brexit”….Ministers like Turnbull are not true representatives of democratic rule, they are vanguards of other ideologies. None of it good.

  68. Turnbull will just go from strength to strength installing a Statist agenda while he fundamentally changes the Liberal Party, root and branch…… and the media will cheer him ceaselessly.

    There will be no dumping him. It’s over. We lost….. or we will if he wins this election in any shape or form whatsoever.

    At least one other person gets it.

  69. cynical1

    The new clothes have no Emperor.

  70. H B Bear

    I don’t quite agree with your assessment with the Liberal ministers getting rid of Turnbull if he scrapes through and wins this election….. They’ll hail Turnbull a hero that saved the day and won the “unwinnable election” and the media will repeat the meme until you vomit.

    No-one thinks this election is unloseable. TPP has been 50:50 or within the margin of error for months. Peanut Head can’t win because no-one has their baseball bats back out after clobbering KRudd/Gillard in 2013. Waffleworth is going to hand back virtually all the seats taken off the ALP in 2013 because he is a hopeless campaigner, an ordinary politician and has evaporated the party base.

    If Waffles falls over the line on Saturday the media will start destabilising his leadership on the Sunday with Ol’ Leathery first cab off the rank.

  71. Menai Pete

    Gone within 6 months?

    Turnbull does not have to be Prime Minister if the Liberal Party and National Party win a majority of seats at the election. He is only caretaker Prime Minister until the Governor General swears in a new Prime Minister after declaration of the polls when the GG is convinced that the person he swears in has the support and confidence of a majority in the Lower House. Senate numbers do not matter in the appointment of a Prime Minister.
    There is no way that he will have the support of the majority of those Liberal and National Party members (of the House of Representatives) who survive the election. If enough of them were to hold a meeting before Turnbull gets to see the GG and at that meeting pass a motion of no confidence in his leadership then he would not be able to convince the GG that he has the support of the House. He would have no option but to resign as leader of the Liberal Party and the party would be free to elect a new leader who would be sworn in as Prime Minister. The Party would not be deposing a sitting PM because he would not have been sworn in as PM in the new Parliament.

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