Another sunshine conservative

Andrew Bolt has a column behind the Murdoch paywall on Buffoon Trump is just the symptom Here’s what you can get at the link:

THE question now isn’t whether Donald Trump is just a moron or an outright menace who could blow up the world.

The question is why a braggart, buffoon, liar, narcissist and sexist with almost no political principles came so close to becoming president of the world’s greatest power.

Meanwhile, the top fifteen comments in order with nothing left out.

1) Hillary Clinton takes tens of millions of dollars in donations from the rich Sunni Arab States and wants to increase islamic immigration to the USA by around 550% even when she acknowledges in leaked emails that security cannot be guaranteed and there are large very large problems with integration… she also wants this unfettered Islamic migration for the rest of the world … She also believes in open borders for the USA and in economic and governmental Globalization… basically a world government along the lines of the EU… Frankly I really don’t care how crass Donald is

2) The reason is because he is the ONLY person prepared to confront the mind numbing political correctness that is turning our society into a herd of dull obedient sheep.

3) Donald maybe crass but Hilary is evil

4) I thought it was only the left that threw insults (according to Bolt). Just shows Bolt is no different from the rest. Use personal abuse when you can’t argue the facts. Bolt is entitled to his view but he is just another talking head who has become a legend in his own lunch box. I have followed his stuff since he started his blog and although I have disagreed with him on quite a few issues that he got on his hobby-horse with,

But this, and his many, anti-Trump rants is the end for me. I stuck with the Liberals for 50 years and look what that has done. I am out of here and to hell with the Republicans, Democrats, Liberals and Socialists.

5) I see you have taken the same bus as the anti-Trump air pirates. Trump did this, trump did that, ad nauseum. Nothing about the avalanche of material against Clinton, enough in fact to put her in jail if she wasn’t running for Presidency, unlike Trump who said some nasty words but did nothing illegal. Oh well let the establishment get their next puppet. The Americans must love the status quo, which in effect means the slippery decline into chaos and destruction. Don’t get me wrong I don’t like either candidate but under Trump at least the US has a chance no matter how small to slow down the decline. With Clinton there is no chance – in fact she will accelerate it. Hmmm. Perhaps that’s why we should hope for Clinton to become President – to get it over and done with ASAP.

6) Andrew if you jump on the bandwagon with left in condemning writing off Trump …be careful your popularity doesn’t go in the same directions as Turnbull’s Libs…A huge number of people both here and in the States still are right behind him

7) So you’re happy to see hillary stack the supreme Court and have it attack free speech and gun ownership?

8) You know why Andrew, because the people are sick and tired of all this PC BS the media is running. We know when the United Nations comes out and says “don’t vote for Donald’ that is exactly what we will do.

9) Same reason Hansen is back, Farage in the UK, Le Pen in France, Wilders in the Netherlands, Golden Dawn in Greece, AFD in Germany, Establishment politicians stopped listening years ago but now they are actually going out of their way to provoke us with identity politics, eco twaddle, micro managing, abject failures and immoral trough gobbling parasites in every layer of govt.

10) You haven’t gone all leftie on us have you Andrew? I heard your PC rubbish on 2GB last night. I get the feeling you’re playing for a TV contract and neglecting your other paid gigs. I’ve worked with CEOs that speak just the way Trump did….10 years ago! I’ve heard women being just as forthright and crude about blokes. Why should Trump be barred from seeking election just because of words he uttered 10 years ago? Let the voters decide. Wasn’t that what you were championing once?

11) The media destroyed Tony Abbott, now it’s Trump’s turn.

12) The world will be a lot safer place with Trump as President then it would be with Clinton as leader.

13) No politician is prepared to say what Donald Trump says when he explains the dirty details the politicians and the establishment renters use to keep themselves in power at the expense of the ordinary folk. And the people are listening.

Donald Trump knows too much for his own good. I wouldn’t be surprised if one morning the headlines read he has had an “accident”.

The whole Ruling System stinks like a dead snake. I don’t care if he said “naughty” words privately about a beautiful woman – he didn’t turn around and rape her! Every red blooded man has said or thought these things.

He has given the people hope and they have become a Movement. He is a listener. As President, he will be very careful to get all facts first from the operators on the ground and advisers like Pence, Giuliano, Sessions and dozens more good people around him who have the American people at heart.

14) Even Clinton’s Democrat leader Obama doesn’t trust her. Obama said she will say anything and deliver nothing!

15) looks like Bolt has been bought. he is now investing his families future in the new world order, obviously been given a ticket for the bus to the shelter. Hope you have a plan B Mr Bolt because if your dream outcome doesn’t eventuate you will be held to account, like all Elites ( @ French History 101 ) if you do get your outcome it wont matter as the world war Clinton will start will finish the known world. lost respect for you, now a bona fide “Aussy Journo” who writes what they’re told to.

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141 Responses to Another sunshine conservative

  1. Peter Johnson

    Americans and the rest of us get the policians we deserve! . . .

  2. Bruce of Newcastle

    I saw that post by Andrew and was sad. Why is it that no one look beneath the superficial in this era?

    If you examine Trump’s actual policies they are excellent. If you examine Hillary’s policies they are catastrophic. She is also economical, lets say, with the truth…so much so that even her own people find that frustrating.

    News this morning is that Tony Heller is going to brief Trump’s nominee for the USEPA, and will be here in Oz soon to talk with Malcolm Roberts. I hope Andrew will have him on his show, as one of the most effective opponents of the climate scam.

  3. We worry about Trump’s potty-talk or about mixed-gender potties for our military as we sleepwalk into war.

    If you knew a candidate has already started (and bungled) wars, and that the same candidate has recently received many millions from Gulf States, Ukrainian kleptocrats and US arms manufacturers…would you care?

    War happens, people. It can happen very soon.

  4. feelthebern

    My SRR theory stands.

  5. Mique

    I’d say Bolt, like Sheridan and the reat of the Murdoch stable, has been made an “offer” he cannot afford to refuse. Get in line or get out. Shame.

  6. Crossie

    The question is why a braggart, buffoon, liar, narcissist and sexist with almost no political principles came so close to becoming president of the world’s greatest power.

    Why the past tense? Let’s wait until the actual election.

  7. Pat K

    Yes. While I’ve had reservations about AB’s pronouncements on several occasions, this the last straw.
    “Buffoon Trump.” So here we have the standard bearer for supposedly intelligent conservative commentary reduced to name calling and the abuse he so often castigates the “other side” for. Sorry Bolta. You’ve lost me.

  8. stackja

    BoltA just following MSM on Trump. BoltA is ignorant of USA politics.

  9. Crossie

    Establishment politicians stopped listening years ago

    So did journalists who used to claim to be the conscience of society. Their credo used to be “afflict the comfortable and comfort he afflicted” which also seems to have been reversed.

    Journalists are weather vanes, they tell us which way the wind blows, what the powerful want us to know.

  10. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Bolt has always had terrible judgment.

    This is the same fauxservative who claims Conroy and Albanese among his friends.

    Shameful.

  11. Rayvic

    So Andrew Bolt is a blinkered supporter of Hillary.

    This is surprising and irrational on his part. He departs from what he usually preaches: look at the substance of the policies, not the appearance of the proposing MP.

  12. Crossie

    BoltA just following MSM on Trump. BoltA is ignorant of USA politics.

    Not just Bolt but every Australian journalist. I’ve checked out all TV news reports and they all pretty much spout the official Democrat talking points.

    What can you expect from twenty something reporters with degrees in media communication. Subjects like history and geopolitics are foreign concepts. Even in years past news bureaux would send their senior and most experienced correspondents to cover events such as the US election.

    The senior, knowledgeable staff cost much more than the ones just out of uni. It’s the same principle as hardware and department stores employing teenagers because they are cheap. In the end you get what you pay for.

  13. Crossie

    This is the same fauxservative who claims Conroy and Albanese among his friends.

    Conservative or non-aligned media people often do this thinking it makes them look cool. The lefties don’t buy it anyway and it just undermines them with conservatives.

    Besides, where were these friends when Bolt was sued by the Human Right Commission? I don’t remember a single one having a good word for him. It was left to us unreconstructed rednecks to defend him in word and deed by buying his writings.

  14. Dash

    I’m very disappointed too, Steve. Andrew Bolt has been so brave in so many ways, but is following the herd on this critical election. With the “shock! horror! pussy talk” blinkers firmly attached.

    As if the description “braggart, buffoon, liar, narcissist and sexist” – perhaps leaving out “buffoon” – wouldn’t suit countless (successful) political leaders throughout history. Including JFK, who doesn’t fit into Andrew’s neat timeline of the supposed recent descent into debauchery. So why is this the focus of concern – and not the Clintons and corruption, and Islamic terrorism etc etc?

    The modern MSM has power and influence way beyond its remit. We get more reliable wisdom and common sense from readers’ comments now than from any of our supposedly more insightful and independent professional commentators. Perhaps that – more so than a culture conducive to one man’s history of private, dirty talk – gives a clue as to why Trump. But none so blind …

  15. I gave up on Bolt some time ago. I think his sense of self-importance has escalated exponentially and subsequently he’s become a bore. A bit like a Derryn Hinch clone.

  16. Infogalactic is the new version of Wikipedia but without the censoring and progressive left intrusion.

    They have a nice page up of a list of Republicans that oppose the Trump campaign. Perhaps we can start a similar list of Australian sunshine conservatives.

  17. .

    I can’t really blame Mc Cain for not supporting Trump. Trump’s ramblings about Mc Cain were disgusting nonsense.

  18. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    What’s your excuse for supporting Hillary, Dot?

    STFU you stooge.

  19. Caveman

    Good that you put this post up. Feel the same way having read the first couple of paragraphs this morning from Bolt. I’m beginning to turn off his hour with Pricey because its becomming a whinge fest. Pussy Pussy Pussy there I’ve said it.

  20. .

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2171988, posted on October 13, 2016 at 1:18 pm
    What’s your excuse for supporting Hillary, Dot?

    STFU you stooge.

    You’re way off. I don’t support Hillary. Don’t go full retard.

  21. The media’s support for OUR war on Syria is as bad or worse than its backing of LBJ. Democrats seem to find it easier to keep the journos on side as they kill and maim…and ultimately lose.

    Not that the previous Republican administration got challenged to great effect, but there was more willingness to defy the official line. Bomber Barry gets a pass from both right and left. Hillary rooted Libya and Syria in between Oprah and Ellen appearances.

    With Hillary funded generously by all the worst people, expect a full replay of the Great Game, with extra highlights in Central Asia where the real resources lie and the biggest geopolitical points get scored. When you hear that some dictator of some place ending in “-stan” has used chemical weapons on his own people you’ll know we’re right to go with some of our non-chemical weapons.

    That’s if we don’t just cut to WW3. Ailing tyrants do like to hurry things along. Cough, cough.

  22. Brett

    Well, as Ann Coulter predicted: the NYT has finally found someone to reprise the role of Anita Hill in their latest attempt to destroy Trump and deliver the election to HC; and well timed to drown out the appalling revelations against the clintons and the DNC from the latest Wikileaks release. Whatever the rights and wrongs I just cannot recall in my lifetime the media going so feral to get what they want. It is so over the top I do wonder whether it will cause a backlash.

    That said, I think this will finish Trump’s chances; by the time anyone gets to the truth the election will be over.

  23. .

    Read the details of the “case” – it is really ludicrous, just more dirty tricks.

  24. Sinclair Davidson

    You are slagging off Andrew Bolt? Really?

  25. .

    Andrew Bolt is another UN supporting, Soros funded, open borders Marxist.

  26. Brett;

    Whatever the rights and wrongs I just cannot recall in my lifetime the media going so feral to get what they want. It is so over the top I do wonder whether it will cause a backlash.

    No, the media is burning itself out because this election is the end game.
    They can just taste the victory…

  27. Sinclair Davidson #2172033, posted on October 13, 2016 at 2:10 pm

    You are slagging off Andrew Bolt? Really?

    I am surprised that you are surprised

  28. alexnoaholdmate

    Guys, there is plenty for the average person to dislike in Trump.

    You might not see it, and you might not personally agree – but it isn’t “crazy” or a conspiracy when people claim they don’t believe he’s fit for the Presidency.

    You’ve got to stop seeing a vast conspiracy in every opinion.

    You know who you sound like, Kates? Like someone who’s taking names, so that after the revolution you can organise the queue for the firing squad. It’s sick.

  29. Nicholas (Unlicensed Joker!) Gray

    I think that Tony Abbott destroyed himself. Can you explain “Captain’s pick”? Please?

  30. JC

    Steve K

    So the litmus test for being on the Right depends on supporting Trump, a D’rat in disguise. Like Really?

  31. Muddy

    I actually found my way here to The Cat, a few years ago, via Keith Windschuttle/Quadrant and Andrew Bolt (I can’t recall who came first), but I’ve thought for a while now, in my own bogan redneck way, that Bolt was not the real conservative deal. I admired him for standing up on certain issues, and he has certainly personally copped a lot on the chin, but he isn’t the strong leader I’m seeking and willing to follow.

  32. Driftforge

    So the litmus test for being on the Right depends on supporting Trump, a D’rat in disguise. Like Really?

    In a lot of ways, the litmus test is whether your feed is from the MSM or not.

  33. Beef

    The question is why a braggart, buffoon, liar, narcissist and sexist with almost no political principles

    The answer to Mr Bolts question to me seems obvious. It’s the no political principles option, as all the others are possessed by the current political class.

  34. Dash

    You might not see it, and you might not personally agree – but it isn’t “crazy” or a conspiracy when people claim they don’t believe he’s fit for the Presidency.

    The question is who is less fit for the presidency, and the answer should be self-evident: Crooked Hillary Clinton.

  35. JC

    In a lot of ways, the litmus test is whether your feed is from the MSM or not.

    Yea? You mean Trump was lying when he referred to himself as a D’ratter over the past decade and before?

    I don’t hold any antagonism for right wingers who don’t like Trump. I wouldn’t do it, but I can fully understand their disgust.

  36. CyrilH

    It appears that Bolt and Sheridan are just repeating the leftist media talking points without doing any further search. This is not Bolts usual style so I am wondering what is driving this attitude to seeking the truth.

  37. Sinclair Davidson

    I am surprised that you are surprised

    I am VERY surprised that a very good friend of the Cat’s is being treated in this shabby way. VERY surprised.

    I am also intensely dissatisfied.

  38. Eddystone

    You are slagging off Andrew Bolt? Really?

    That’s been a Cat pastime for years.

    Don’t you read your own blog?

  39. alexnoaholdmate

    The question is who is less fit for the presidency, and the answer should be self-evident: Crooked Hillary Clinton.

    Yes, I agree. Were I an American, I would still be voting for Trump – with misgivings.

    The point is – you shouldn’t assume that people who have come to the conclusion that Trump is unfit for the Presidency are part of a vast conspiracy to bury him. That’s crazy.

    I would also point out that when Leftists have implied that Bolt is part of a vast Murdoch conspiracy, we have dismissed that as crazy talk. Now that he doesn’t toe the Trump line, turns out he was part of a conspiracy after all – oh, but on the side of the Left.

    The whole time. Wow, who knew? What an actor.

    Do you have any idea how you people sound?

  40. Beef

    I am also intensely dissatisfied.

    I am in agreement…Bolt is at the pointy end in profile and keeps smiling, much respect. He must watch the ‘name calling’ meme he uses toward Trump, where it’s about the vibe not the substance.

  41. Sinclair Davidson

    People have been slagging Andrew Bolt for years? I don’t think so.

  42. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    I am also intensely dissatisfied.

    First you must distinguish between your wants and needs.

  43. Louis Hissink

    Cripes – there’s dissent among the big-smokers (townies etc)?

    But then the ruling elite never did appreciate the parvenu class.

  44. mh

    As a 4BC listener I have heard Bolt with Steve Price of an evening for about a year. Both Steve and Andrew are fairly ignorant about Trump and US politics. One example was when Price asked Bolt “What about Trump?” and Bolt replied “Yes, but his stocks are falling so fast”. Whatever the question related to does not matter, Trump’s stocks were not falling fast if you had knowledge. Amongst Bolt’s justification of his comment was Trump’s campaign manager being charged with assault of journalist Michelle Fields; the video of the ‘assault’ had been widely available on the internet for a couple of weeks showing the accused placing his hand very briefly on Field’s arm to stop her from attempting once again to crash through Trump’s security detail. The charge was quickly dropped as it was obviously a pathetic attempt to discredit Trump. But Andrew fell for it. A month later Trump was the Republican nominee.

  45. Driftforge

    I don’t hold any antagonism for right wingers who don’t like Trump. I wouldn’t do it, but I can fully understand their disgust.

    Fair enough. I suspect a younger version of myself may have done the same.

    But if someone presents as having their news feed from the MSM, they simply aren’t of the right anymore, because you can’t find the right there.

  46. Viva

    Will the entrepreneurial personality adapt to the presidential role? You decide:

    https://www.16personalities.com/estp-personality

  47. struth

    How deep does the corruption go?

    Hard to not get all conspiracy theorist when they are all rolling over to get their tummy scratched.

    Pick your side Andrew.
    We’ll rub your nose in it later.
    Polls mean shit.
    The cat is out of the bag and before Trump came along many the majority of voters were unaware of the MSM and elites collusion.
    They certainly are not now, so Andrew has just become an irrelevance like the rest of the MSM.
    Remember, he worked for the ALP.
    How stupid.

  48. .

    I am also intensely dissatisfied.

    About time you wised up to the fascist Hep-C positive fecal ooze that is regularly sprayed around on this once esteemed blog.

  49. Dash

    It’s not just about Andrew Bolt or any individual. People are simply noting and objecting to the blanket anti-Trump MSM commentary. Perfectly rational, when we’re led to expect some semblance of balanced election coverage. There’s no “Trump-line” to toe in the MSM. No conspiracy. It’s plain to see from the dearth of opinion pieces focused on damning Clinton.

  50. Muddy

    You know who you sound like, Kates? Like someone who’s taking names, so that after the revolution you can organise the queue for the firing squad. It’s sick.

    And the socio-cultural insurgents have not been doing the same, and carrying through with the sentences? It’s not sick, it’s survival. The alternative is standing still with a drugged-up grin, waiting for the metaphorical bullet (which you’ve already paid for) in the back of the head.

  51. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    As a 4BC listener I have heard Bolt with Steve Price of an evening for about a year. Both Steve and Andrew are fairly ignorant about Trump and US politics

    “Fairly ignorant”. You are too kind.

    Both are clueless.

  52. Sinclair Davidson

    About time you wised up to the fascist Hep-C positive fecal ooze that is regularly sprayed around on this once esteemed blog.

    The views of threadsters are what they are – I’m not happy that a poster showed so little discretion.

  53. Driftforge

    I am VERY surprised that a very good friend of the Cat’s is being treated in this shabby way. VERY surprised.

    Well to be honest, I’m very surprised that Bolt hasn’t stayed on the wagon. I find it incredible that he has not managed to adequately inform himself of matters. How can someone whose very task is to stay informed and provide commentary on matters of import, be so isolated from the current perspectives of the right?

  54. The charge was quickly dropped as it was obviously a pathetic attempt to discredit Trump. But Andrew fell for it. A month later Trump was the Republican nominee.

    Bolt has fallen for every bit of sensationalism about Trump since he began his run yet has remained silent when the same stories have been discredited. At a certain point one has to question his complete lack of objectivity, particularly when you consider who Trump is running against.

  55. struth

    The basic point is this.
    Andrew Bolt has been a conservative or right wing presenter , and they are his words.
    Many a time he goes hard on the many left wing MSM scum that hide their activism and try to look impartial.
    He calls them out.
    Yet, it isn’t rocket science for a person that has his (or so we thought) political ideology to see who would be worse for the world.
    Near everything he has said in the past (not all but close) flies directly in the face of his latest brain fart.
    Don’t blame us.
    These comments, especially when he dam well knows the entire media army is fighting Trump, invalidates his opinion.
    May I also point out that we are not tribal.
    If he is a goose, should he not be told?

  56. alexnoaholdmate

    At a certain point one has to question his complete lack of objectivity, particularly when you consider who Trump is running against.

    If you honestly believe – honestly – that Andrew Bolt is knowingly and willingly part of a vast left-wing conspiracy to discredit Donald Trump, you are not using your reason.

    What you are saying verges on the insane.

    And I’d point out again – Lefties say this about Andrew all the time, though from the opposite side. They argue there’s a vast Murdoch right-wing conspiracy against Rudd, Gillard, Shorten, Obama, and Hillary, against same-sex marriage, against climate change alarmism, against ‘fairness’ (whatever that is), and that Andrew Bolt is the main cheerleader and worst offender. That he’s Rupert’s right-hand man. That he’s being manipulated by a clever Svengali or a puppeteer.

    When they say it, we rightly dismiss their conspiracy theories as insanity. You are making exactly the same accusation now.

  57. struth

    You know who you sound like, Kates? Like someone who’s taking names, so that after the revolution you can organise the queue for the firing squad. It’s sick.

    Over dramatic bullshit.

    If you want to jump on the Trump bashing Train, don’t expect our support after the election.
    That’s just the way the cookie crumbles.
    Bolt will have lost so much and so many people with his anti Trump weekness, and that is fine.
    It’s his choice.
    It’s my choice to turn him off, and not visit his site.
    Am I allowed that choice?

  58. Markus A. Frank

    I used to read Bolt every morning.
    Not any more. Saves me 5 minutes now to concentrate
    on my coffee.
    Just goes to show; give a conservative enough money and he
    will ‘progress’.

  59. struth

    Weakness , as it has been less than a week for him to become weak.

  60. If you honestly believe – honestly – that Andrew Bolt is knowingly and willingly part of a vast left-wing conspiracy to discredit Donald Trump, you are not using your reason.

    I’m not saying that at all, (although others have). I’m saying that he has got it wrong on this one and instead of revising his position he keeps on doubling down. It’s not a good look and it is undermining his previous good work.

  61. alexnoaholdmate

    May I also point out that we are not tribal.
    If he is a goose, should he not be told?

    Certainly. If you believe Bolt is wrong, tell him so. And why.

    And I happen to agree with you. Whatever Trump might be, Hillary is worse.

    But that is not what Kates and his ilk (and you struth, in a post further up) are alleging. They are alleging that the only conceivable reason Andrew Bolt could possibly disagree with them is because – mirabile dictu! – he’s in the pay of a vast conspiracy to destroy Donald Trump.

  62. .

    I’m not saying that at all, (although others have). I’m saying that he has got it wrong on this one and instead of revising his position he keeps on doubling down. It’s not a good look and it is undermining his previous good work.

    Andrew Bolt is a terrible human being for not being in lockstep with myself and the talking points I read with my morning joe from Breitbart.

  63. Sinclair Davidson

    If he is a goose, should he not be told?

    I don’t think this is a difference of opinion. This is how Steve defined sunshine conservatives:

    Sunshine conservatives are those windbags who are forever wringing their hands about the problems we face but will nevertheless support Hillary in this crisis because Donald Trump lacks perfection. To them nothing is owed but contempt.

    We owe Andrew Bolt nothing but contempt?

    If anyone here thinks that – then your moral compass is very seriously awry. You have allowed your hatred and bigotry to consume your reason.

  64. Driftforge

    All that said, Andrew has to find the rise of the alt-right hard. He’s very much a classical liberal, in the sense that he maintains the pretence that race is irrelevant, that equality is something more than a motherhood statement, that freedom of speech is not dynamically unstable.

    Now the left has long abandoned these notions, and he has been able to stand upon them with some leverage (given that a great many people held them) and whack the left with them because the left used to hold these views and hadn’t entirely abandoned them. But now the right has — in large because of circumstances brought about by the left — abandoned them as well, he’s left out on a broken down jetty in a storm.

    It’s a long walk back from there.

  65. alexnoaholdmate

    It’s my choice to turn him off, and not visit his site.
    Am I allowed that choice.

    Of course you are. And if you choose further to tell us why you’ve made that decision, we are also free to choose to argue as to why you’re wrong.

    And if the reasoning behind your decision is batshit crazy, others are free to choose to tell you so.

    And to fuck off with your dramatics.

  66. .

    the pretence that race is irrelevant

    Fuck me sideways.

    Racial superiority and torture advocated in one day on this blog by conservative whackos.

    You people have no effing right at all to tell off libertarians for not being “really libertarian”.

  67. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Bolt has done so much good but he needs to stick to subjects in his wheelhouse: gardening, opera and people who are mean to Tony Abbott.

  68. alexnoaholdmate

    If you want to jump on the Trump bashing Train, don’t expect our support after the election.

    Tell you what – if anyone was wavering in their belief that Donald Trump was the right man for the job, listening to the insane rantings of his supporters here might quickly make up their minds for them.

  69. Driftforge

    We owe Andrew Bolt nothing but contempt?

    I don’t think contempt is the right word. He’s stuck in yesterdays battle, which both sides have now abandoned. It’s probably closer to a mix of pity and confusion.

    The battleground has changed in the US, and I suspect will follow here in due course. It is the simple and inevitable effect of changing demographics; the ideological contention that could be carried out when people were largely of a kind inherently gives way to the identity based contention that characterises a multi-ethnic society that lacks a concept of joint nationhood.

    In the US, Bolt would find himself called a cuckservative, because regardless of intent, his effort now serves to bolster the narrative of the left in this matter.

  70. max

    It’s incredibly savage, the hour by hour attack on Trump for something he said eleven years ago, and which you’d hear in any police station, journalists’ pub or sporting club anywhere.

    Bolt has to work in an office. He has to take the lift. He has to go to meetings. He’d have friends and colleagues he’d see at work. His wife would too. They’d regard you as a complete asshole if you came out for Trump. It’d be like having leprosy. His wife would hate him.

  71. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Fuck me sideways.

    Racial superiority and torture advocated in one day on this blog by conservative whackos.

    You people have no effing right at all to tell off libertarians for not being “really libertarian”.

    I’ve been pointing out what this whack job has been posting for about 12 months and no one cares.

    Supposedly a Christian too.

  72. Driftforge

    the pretence that race is irrelevant

    Racial superiority

    Nothing to do with ‘superiority’. Everything to do with identity. It is a pretence that it is irrelevant. The left has long abandoned this (see ‘Victim Poker’). The right, being conservative, held to it longer.

  73. struth

    Certainly. If you believe Bolt is wrong, tell him so. And why.

    If he’s such a good friend of the cat and knows a post has gone up about him, I just did.

    But that is not what Kates and his ilk (and you struth, in a post further up) are
    alleging

    I said it’s hard not to get all “conspiracy theory” over this.
    In other words, it is so amazing to see someone’s values change so quickly you couldn’t blame anyone for suspecting it.

    My own personal opinion is that he is going for credibility.
    He believes if he bags Trump, he will be able to remain more relevant when attacking the left here in Australia on other issues.
    He tries to hard to make sure he is not seen as the Alex Jones of Australia.
    But he needs to think it through a little harder.
    You can’t play that game without being called out by people of principle.
    Which is what is happening here.

  74. alexnoaholdmate

    Bolt has to work in an office. He has to take the lift. He has to go to meetings. He’d have friends and colleagues he’d see at work. His wife would too. They’d regard you as a complete asshole if you came out for Trump. It’d be like having leprosy. His wife would hate him.

    Uhhh… I think Bolt has long passed the stage where he worries what ‘polite society’ think of him.

    They have made their contempt for him quite plain, and have been doing so for nearly two decades now.

  75. alexnoaholdmate

    That’s one reason why I’m confident he’s come to his beliefs – even if I disagree with them – on his own. He’s never cared what the bien pensants believe before, why would he start with Trump?

  76. EB

    I’m can’t buy Trump as anything but a ringer.

    If Hillary was up against anyone else she’d be finished. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bill and Donald are kicking back together somewhere secluded in Montana come February.

    Clinton foundation will have organised payment for Donald’s services though foreign entities and Jeffrey Epstein will be bringing the week’s entertainment.

    I think most of the shrill media outcry is because he got a little too close for comfort.

  77. Vicki

    I stuck with the Liberals for 50 years and look what that has done. I am out of here and to hell with the Republicans, Democrats, Liberals and Socialists.

    I’m coming too!!!!

  78. A Lurker

    When the media almost to a man (and a woman) line up enmasse to point out the splinter in Trump’s eye whilst ignoring the 2×4 hardwood beam protruding out out Clinton’s eye, then you know that something is greatly awry with the world. When supposedly Conservative commentators join that line up, you know that the fix is in.

    Poor fella my civilization.

  79. Driftforge

    That’s one reason why I’m confident he’s come to his beliefs – even if I disagree with them – on his own. He’s never cared what the bien pensants believe before, why would he start with Trump?

    Largely what I noted above. The difficulty is that he has become fixed in his views, which leaves him in this instance providing support for the other tribe.

    He’s hardly alone in that box. The realignment is quite remarkable.

  80. alexnoaholdmate

    I’m can’t buy Trump as anything but a ringer.
    If Hillary was up against anyone else she’d be finished. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bill and Donald are kicking back together somewhere secluded in Montana come February.
    Clinton foundation will have organised payment for Donald’s services though foreign entities and Jeffrey Epstein will be bringing the week’s entertainment.
    I think most of the shrill media outcry is because he got a little too close for comfort.

    Another conspiracy theory.

    I don’t think airing all Clinton’s rape allegations were part of the Clinton ‘plan.’

  81. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    That’s one reason why I’m confident he’s come to his beliefs – even if I disagree with them – on his own. He’s never cared what the bien pensants believe before, why would he start with Trump?

    Not necessarily true.

    He’s a prone to groupthink as most celebrity scribes.

    Who can forget his George Pell hatchet job.

  82. struth

    Tell you what – if anyone was wavering in their belief that Donald Trump was the right man for the job, listening to the insane rantings of his supporters here might quickly make up their minds for them.

    I personally don’t like Trump, but I never care about a politicians language nor how long his dick is, or how yellow his skin is.
    This fight is against a corrupt establishment and media.
    If you think now is the time, in this stage of our history to join in with the left in talking about the man instead of the issues, I feel very firmly that you could be , quite within good reason, a sunshine conservative.
    Our one chance to fight back.
    So keep bullshitting on about the irrelevant and telling me I’m insane.
    Insanity is spending all your life grizzling about something and then getting a chance to fight it and turning on your own.
    Bolt has fought against all those things that Trump is fighting against and decides now is the time to shoot his own soldiers.

  83. max

    He’s a prone to groupthink as most celebrity scribes.

    Agreed. Recognition and success have altered him for the worse.

  84. Vicki

    I think Andrew Bolt is suffering from the Stockhom Syndrome and/or trench fatigue.

    Years of attack from the Social Justice Nazis have undermined his resolve.

    Having served a mere modicum of time in that position I can’t defend this new tack, but I do understand it.

  85. EB

    I don’t think airing all Clinton’s rape allegations were part of the Clinton ‘plan.’

    It’s long been out there and water off a duck’s back to their true believers. These people are beyond shame and in two months time they won’t be showing their faces in anything other than a controlled space again.

  86. Vicki

    the ideological contention that could be carried out when people were largely of a kind inherently gives way to the identity based contention that characterises a multi-ethnic society that lacks a concept of joint nationhood.

    That’s a pretty big call, Driftforge. But it has enough logic in it to be deeply worrying – especially as it is seen in its nascent form in the under 30s.

  87. struth

    Having served a mere modicum of time in that position I can’t defend this new tack, but I do understand it.

    I absolutely understand it. He has done more, way more than most.
    But it doesn’t make it right and people fail every now and then.
    I go back to my previous statement .
    This is a calculated move by Bolt to appear more middle of the road, for relevance sake.
    He just hasn’t read the mood of the people properly, as he is , and would be completely surrounded by the media swill that would be blurring his judgement.
    If it has become a game of chess, we all lose.
    Let’s face it, it is hard to keep your values intact just being amongst the academia of the west.
    We have all seen that.

  88. Driftforge

    That’s a pretty big call, Driftforge. But it has enough logic in it to be deeply worrying – especially as it is seen in its nascent form in the under 30s.

    Quite. Youthful rebellion against the prevailing culture is in the direction of Trump, but hardly limited by his positions. Trump presents as populist nationalism, but his ardent supporters as civilisational defenders. The left went there first, and the right follows as it eventually must.

    Some twitter today suggested the choice between Trump and Hillary was Civil War II vs World War III. That too is a big call, but I tend to think that the chance of both increases with Hillary.

  89. Steve

    Rupert appears to be backing Clinton. Wonder what he wants now?

  90. alexnoaholdmate

    If you think now is the time, in this stage of our history to join in with the left in talking about the man instead of the issues, I feel very firmly that you could be , quite within good reason, a sunshine conservative.

    I don’t actually.

    It’s the conspiracy theories here about Andrew Bolt I’m dismayed by – and the effect Trump seems to have on the mental stability of many of his followers.

    So keep bullshitting on about the irrelevant and telling me I’m insane.

    You’re insane.

  91. Dash

    Bolt has to work in an office. He has to take the lift. He has to go to meetings. He’d have friends and colleagues he’d see at work. His wife would too. They’d regard you as a complete asshole if you came out for Trump. It’d be like having leprosy. His wife would hate him.

    Yes, candy said something very similar about Greg Sheridan – who Andrew Bolt reminded me of today with his focus on Trump and the supposed “coarsening of society” (never mind that Trump’s comments on that tape were made years ago, in private, not in public; and never mind what, to most reasonable, objective people, is the far greater evil of the Clintons and corruption behind closed doors). As monty might say, Andrew Bolt is not wood, he is not stone, he is but a man.

  92. Jannie

    I would not hasten to make a judgement about Bolt on this issue, even though I disagree with him, its possible to see why this making this call. Maybe he is cementing a perch on the establishment hillside, which might be a career necessity. He is a very useful ally of the not Left, in the past, and in the future. There is struggle ahead in Australia, he may not be perfect but Bolt will be fighting for the right side.

  93. alexnoaholdmate

    Yes, candy said something very similar about Greg Sheridan

    Now, Greg Sheridan I could see touching his forelock and bowing and scraping to his betters – doctor’s wives and the ‘intelligentsia’.

    But Bolt – never.

    I disagree with Andrew Bolt’s conclusion, but I don’t doubt he believes what he says.

  94. Dash

    The Murdoch press does certainly seem to be pro-Clinton, going by both editorials and opinion pieces. You don’t need to be a conspiracy theorist to make that observation, and it’s well documented that a particular editorial line is pushed at different elections, due to certain influences. This isn’t insanity, it’s reality and naive in the extreme to believe otherwise.

  95. Ez

    He’s a prone to groupthink as most celebrity scribes.

    Peter of Bellevue Hill is NOT a group.

  96. alexnoaholdmate

    I would not hasten to make a judgement about Bolt on this issue, even though I disagree with him, its possible to see why this making this call. Maybe he is cementing a perch on the establishment hillside, which might be a career necessity.

    And again, and again, and again – have you ever considered that Bolt has made ‘this call’ because he believes it?

    Why must there be an ulterior motive?

    Why the conspiracy?

    Why does Trump bring out this insanity in people – the Left comparing him to Hitler and claiming his election will mean civil or race war, the Right claiming that anyone who isn’t a die-hard Trumpbot is part of a vast conspiracy?

    (You’re far from the worst, Jannie, don’t take what I’ve written personally)

  97. gabrianga

    This is what happens to Conservatives who continuously agree with Greg Sheridan….their vision gets clouded.

    Bolt’s condescension with Sheridan the other night came as a wake up call and this latest take on Trump leaves Bolt with no “Plan B”, his repetitive criticism of the Turnbull Government.

    Another one bites the dust?

  98. Jannie

    My wife does not support Trump and intensely dislikes him. She also dislikes Clinton for her record, but she prefers Clinton to Trump, because she knows what is in the package. Yet my wife is a genuine conservative. This is not an issue on which to make judgements about individual responses, there is just too much bad data.

  99. alexnoaholdmate

    My wife does not support Trump and intensely dislikes him. She also dislikes Clinton for her record, but she prefers Clinton to Trump, because she knows what is in the package.

    Exactly.

    And I can see how someone would come to that conclusion, even if I believe that conclusion is wrong (and it is – we do know what we’ll get with Clinton, and that’s the entire problem).

    Andrew Bolt coming to that conclusion means Andrew Bolt is wrong. That’s fine. Get angry about that, guys. I don’t blame you.

    It does not mean, however, that Andrew Bolt is part of a vast Murdoch-led conspiracy to bring down Trump, as Kates and others imply.

  100. Jannie

    Alexoldmate, I reckon Bolt calls it as he sees it or believes it to be. But he knows its easier to side with the establishment sometimes. I don’t think there is a conspiracy.

  101. Mr Anderson

    I disagree with AB’s view on Trump but to start writing off him (as well as JA, Miranda Devine, Greg Sheridan, et al) completely – is it not making the same mistake as (some of the) #NeverTrumpers: “Trump’s not perferct so I’m not voting for him!”?

    Come on people, he/they are not the “enemy”.

  102. Who knows, next he may be saying Tim Blair is unfair to Clementine ‘Clem’ Ford.

  103. Mother Lode

    Bolt seems very free and verbose in his contempt for Trump, and all but mute regarding the Hilderbeest.

    He might be all but lost for words in his loathing for Illary, but remains silent regarding his silence.

    Now, in all fairness, since his readers are not going to vote in the US elections it doesn’t really matter.

    But he might consider The Churchill quote:

    If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.

  104. EB

    I don’t know why anyone is shocked by Bolt’s column. If you’ve read him for any length of time you should know he’s quite the prude. I get the impression he’s a bit like George Will, sometimes ashamed that he has genitals.

  105. Rayzor

    Some , including Andrew Bolt, cannot bear to be thought of as one who supports Trump in what he is trying to achieve. Why? A guess is that they are not independent thinkers and so are touched by some of the PC brigade’s utterances.

  106. Eddystone

    People have been slagging Andrew Bolt for years? I don’t think so.

    I once had to send Rafe a stiffly worded email on just this point, several years ago. 🙂

    The views of threadsters are what they are – I’m not happy that a poster showed so little discretion.

    Yes, I agree that comment about contempt is OOT.

    In my opinion, Andrew deserves support for his brave, and largely solo, fight for conservatism for at least the last 20 years.

    Likewise, Steve deserves some slack for his fight for classical economics and Says Law. He is passionate about the state of global and local politics, and the direction it is taking, and maybe that makes him intemperate at times.

    But you wield a big stick, so it behooves you to sort out these disagreements sensitively, and maybe privately.

  107. I think Andrew Bolt is suffering from the Stockhom Syndrome and/or trench fatigue.

    People don’t realise just how much political correctness sneaks through the filters and clouds judgement.

  108. Mother Lode

    EB has got it exactly.

    Bolt is a prude. He wants his guy to win, but he can’t accept as his guy someone indecorous.

    He is a pure conservative. Perhaps in a way that makes other conservatives wince.

    But he is no coward.

    He has taken on fights in the full public glare others have shirked from. And as News lurches further to the left daily that is no small thing.

    He called out the AGW scam to the point that he was derided as the only sceptic. He argued against the opportunistic fauxboriginals.

    He just has that atrocious preference for failing morally over streetfighting

  109. Eyrie

    Bolt is a pussy. ( in the US vernacular)

  110. Crossie

    You are slagging off Andrew Bolt? Really?

    Yes, he seems obsessed with Trump. If he gave equal time to Hillary’s sins I would call it fair.

    I just can’t figure out the Australian media’s obsession with the American election, none of us can vote there and those who are interested will inform themselves.

    Asking Turnbull for his comment was silly but it was even sillier of Malcolm to answer with disdain. For all we know Trump may win and then how will it look when Mal has to act pleased when they meet. Just as he rubbished Pauline Hanson before our election and now he has to deal with her.

    Nobody is coming off well this season.

  111. struth

    It’s the conspiracy theories here about Andrew Bolt I’m dismayed by – and the effect Trump seems to have on the mental stability of many of his followers.

    Are you saying that I believe it is a conspiracy?
    Tell me where I said that.
    I believe his judgement call is wrong.
    This makes me insane?
    He piles on Trump and leaves Hillary alone .
    I believe that is piss poor.
    What ever Bolt has done in the past, and he has done a lot of good, does not mean he is right now.
    He is part of the problem now.
    This is not insanity.
    It is called calling it as I see it.

  112. tgs

    Yeah, because the definition of conservatism is agreeing with Donald fucking Trump. Yes, he’s less terrible than Hillary… but unless you think he’s basically Jesus Christ 2.0 you aren’t a real conservative.

    You’ve always been pretty batshit insane, Kates, but this is a new level of dumb even for you.

    This is some weapons-grade retard shit right here.

  113. struth

    We owe Andrew Bolt nothing but contempt?

    If anyone here thinks that – then your moral compass is very seriously awry. You have allowed your hatred and bigotry to consume your reason.

    Spoken like a true lefty.
    You are getting there quickly now Sinc.
    Look at yourself.
    I owe Andrew Bolt nothing.
    I think he is making a big mistake.
    I will not support my political opposition and on this issue, obviously he is.
    Why am I bigoted and full of hatred?
    Please explain.
    I think maybe you might be doing to Kates, what many are doing to Bolt.
    Remember I vigorously disagreed with Kates about his love affair with Abbott.
    How can anyone claim to be conservative, babble on a site like this for years and then totally trash their political convictions and support socialism because “Trump”?
    Maybe that’s why it’s getting a bit fiery here.

  114. Yeah, because the definition of conservatism is agreeing with Donald fucking Trump. Yes, he’s less terrible than Hillary… but unless you think he’s basically Jesus Christ 2.0 you aren’t a real conservative.

    Strawman. No one is interested in Trump, except maybe a few ladies, we are interested in his policies. cut taxes, cut spending, renegotiate dumb trade deals, close the borders, stop the hijra. Not rocket science, maybe if people on the right got behind him these might get up.

    MSM can’t ignore wikileaks for long.

  115. struth

    Yeah, because the definition of conservatism is agreeing with Donald fucking Trump.

    No, it’s disagreeing with Hillary and all of the traitorous elites and the media supporting her and realising there is no one else other than Trump.

    So the least a sane conservative would do is just STFU and stop firing at Trump when Hillary is far worse and will be a disaster for the west.

  116. Indolent

    So the litmus test for being on the Right depends on supporting Trump, a D’rat in disguise

    Reagan was a Democrat before he was a Republican, too. The point is that, whatever his shortcomings, Trump is a PATRIOT, something entirely foreign to the current political (and media) class.

    What annoys me most about both Bolt and Greg Sheridan (who should know better) is their complete avoidance of Hillary’s multiple sins and crimes which are no longer in the realm of speculation but front and centre from the victims themselves and from the voluminous WikiLeaks documents, more of which are promised but all of which are totally ignored by the MSM to concentrate of Trump’s buffoonery. America, and the world, simply cannot afford a Clinton presidency but no one seems to be making this very simple calculation.

  117. What the?!?!

    —-
    Anonymous are claiming that they will release deleted Hillary emails, they contain enough to sink Hillary and Obama. Obama is willing to start a war with Russia to cover up the crimes in the emails. Anon claims emails show treason by both.

    They claim there is a tape of clinton staff trying to blackmail a woman from the apprentice to turn on Trump. That there is a tape of Hillary abusing a black woman as well as 4 more tapes.

    —-

    God help us all

  118. hzhousewife

    I’m female and Trump’s crudity doesn’t upset me at all. I suppose I learned early to see through the type and not be led astray. I don’t like it much, but there’s plenty around. The thing that has made me laugh in the last few days is the holier than though attitude of every other man on the planet ( except for the odious Weiner, who must be grateful to have his limelight eclipsed). Apparently no other bloke in Washington has ever passed a remark to a mate, pinched a buttock, leered down a neckline, told a dirty joke in purposeful earshot of an innocent lass, no, nobody else has EVER been lewd,crude and bad to know. Spare me.

  119. It’s the conspiracy theories here about Andrew Bolt I’m dismayed by – and the effect Trump seems to have on the mental stability of many of his followers.

    The only one here who keeps banging on about conspiracy theories is you.

  120. Rupert appears to be backing Clinton. Wonder what he wants now?

    Help in fighting the Trump News Network?

  121. Crossie

    Strawman. No one is interested in Trump, except maybe a few ladies, we are interested in his policies. cut taxes, cut spending, renegotiate dumb trade deals, close the borders, stop the hijra. Not rocket science, maybe if people on the right got behind him these might get up.

    Like hzhousewife I am unimpressed with the holier than thou outrage, I’ve heard far worse at some parties. It is the policies.

    When Trump first launched his platform and received approbation from Republican primary voters I thought all the other candidates will swipe some or all of his populist policies. I was amazed that there were no takers, not even Scott Walker whom I thought would have been a great candidate.

    None of the other 16 candidates were were selling what the consumers wanted so they went out of business. Republican Party as a whole has lost sight of their customers and they also will go out of business.

  122. Crossie

    Rupert appears to be backing Clinton. Wonder what he wants now?

    Help in fighting the Trump News Network?

    My guess is that he figured it was safer to offend Trump than Hillary, just in case she wins.

  123. Driftforge

    Come. Donald Trump is the end of Conservatism as it was. But… that conservatism failed to conserve, and so its end is due anyway. That Conservatism also relied for its existence on the US being a democracy split along ideological grounds, which was possible only while the US possessed a majority culture. Now their largest culture is only a plurality (or close enough to it not to matter), ideological differences are replaces with identity based ones. And Conservatism is not designed for that.

    So a protectionist, populist nationalism has arisen in its place. The alt-right possesses the vibrancy of a counter-culture, but will eventually, like conservatism, fail to conserve, fail to restore order on an ongoing basis, because it exists within a leftist system. Only if the system it is part of is reformed is there a chance for a reborn America that is more than an atomised, self-absorbed mixing bowl.

    Trump is riding that wave, and calling it forth. It is a grand thing he does, in success or failure. Out of it will be and is being born the new right that replaces the old right.

    It buys us all time. More time if he wins.

    Time before WWIII and/or Civil War II. Because the left and right aren’t coming back together. They are now approaching the level of conflict that democracy cannot withstand. Survival is on the line.

  124. Robber Baron

    Bolt looks remarkably like Pepe the frog.

  125. StraightShooter

    First I have to admit that I have read every comment on this thread as well as the original article by Steve Kates.

    Doomlord, you seem to be upset that people who comment here are in many cases equally, or more, upset with Andrew Bolt. The only argument that you have put forward for your position is that he is a friend of Catalaxy. Is that really all you have got? Are you saying Andrew Bolt is usually on the right side so if some disagree with him on Trump then they should mind their P’s and Q’s?

    I have always admired the Cat because of its tolerance to multiple opinions – a bastion of free speech if you will, so I am surprised at your dissatisfaction with criticism of Bolt. Or, more particularly, the apparent reason for your dissatisfaction – not that he is right or wrong, but that he is a friend and is therefore above criticism (or at least that is how it comes over).

    To everyone else, there is one overarching reason to vote for Trump. The Supreme Court of the USA.

    If Hillary gets in then the next 1, 2 or even 3 Supreme Court Justices will be selected by her. If it is even just the 1, America, and the whole world will be changed forever. She will select a left wing activist judge who will be confirmed by a corrupt Congress and then all 3 branches (4 if you include the 4th estate) of government will be within her dominion.

    If anyone believes otherwise, then please educate me with your reasoning. I warn you, I am prejudiced and will take much convincing.

    As far as being fit for office, to quote one of the candidates in this years’ race “what difference, at this point, does it make now”.

    Is anyone really going to argue that Obama was fit for office before he was elevated to the position? Same goes for Carter, Nixon, LBJ, Bush 43, Bush 45, W J Clinton or so many American Presidents of the past. No one really knows if a candidate will be a good President. Some are bad, some are mediocre ad occasionally, some are good.

    You can’t tell which are going to be good, but you can know which are going to be bad.

    Hillary will be bad.

    Anyone with an honest appraisal of her can tell – using a private email server as Secretary of State and eschewing the safeguards mandated by law for her own benefit is reason enough. This is not an accusation, it is fact.

    Imagine if our own Foreign Minister had her own server at home with which to conduct the business of Foreign Affairs. Would we tolerate that?

    Then there is the multitude of errant behaviours including the approval of the sale of over 20% of the US uranium reserves to the Russians in one of her many deals for influence peddling.

    And people are being distracted by bad language. Really?

    Even by Bill’s wayward manhood. How does any of this even relate to fitness for office?

    And yet, here we are. Andrew Bolt agrees with Bill Shorten, who agrees with Tanya Plibersek, who agrees with Barry Cassidy, who agrees with ….. blah da blah da blah, that Trump is bad because he is a buffoon, completely ignoring all the real issues, that Trump has addressed, and the people of America are rallying behind, about who is truly fit for office.

    Donald J Trump is first, last, and always an American. In fact to use a term that has gone out of favour all over the Anglo sphere, he is a patriot.

    Patriots may be buffoons (as Bolt seems to think), or they may not be true conservatives, or they may not be true progressives; but what they are, is people who put their country above themselves. Donald Trump is such a man.

    On this issue Andrew Bolt is simply as wrong as can be.

  126. Stimpson J. Cat

    the effect Trump seems to have on the mental stability of many of his followers.

    Somehow, I think I’ll be ok.
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

  127. gabrianga

    WTF is up Bolt’s nose with his near vendetta with Trump?

    Trump passes a comment (maybe compliment) to a young accompanied girl that he “might be dating her in 10 years” and Bolt is off his face with “disgust”.

    I have often joked with my nieces in the same manner hinting we might just leave their favourite aunt.

    Am I also some kind of deranged pervert that Bolt suggests Trump is.?

    Grow up Mr. Bolt and go buy a sense of humour.

  128. gabrianga

    Good on Rowan Dean for near vomiting at Bolt’s mention of a survey by Mark Textor.

  129. Infidel Tiger

    Bolt is desperate to maintain his newly acquired class standing.

    He still feels inadequate and like he doesn’t belong.

    Sad, but he is a celebrity and they are vain.

  130. Austin Mangosteen

    Connect the dots:

    We have a man who is supported by many retired generals from the USA. An Australian displays his ignorance and calls the man a buffoon.
    Donald Trump does not really want to go to war with Syria, he cares for the USA.

    We have woman who delights in getting a rapist off on a technicality after having raped a 12 year old, and she is a war hawk, who comes, who sees and who kills. She is a pathological liar, who is detested by the FBI, who have had to listen her throw her tantrums and abuse them while they were protecting her. She threatened the women her husband raped.
    Hillary Clinton has a desire to go to war with Syria

    Someone has a job which he wants to keep.
    Israel Grants Illegal Oil Rights inside Syria

  131. Bruce

    [email protected].m. your argument is 100% correct. BTW on Monday Andrew promoted his guest prominent U.S. writer Ann Coulter to discuss the second Trump Clinton debate on his TV show. But at the beginning of the program he said Coulter was unable to appear for personal reasons. Coulter then published on Wednesday, which you can read on Breitbart, a damning indictment of the Clintons and wrote “Donald Trump is the only hope to save America so the media have gone to war to stop him”. I’m now guessing whose “personal reasons” prevented her appearance. Maybe didn’t suit the narrative. No fear, no favours.

  132. Paul

    Bolt has always been a deceiver and a shill.

  133. Sinclair Davidson

    StraightShooter – I often have differences of opinions with my friends. I never ever advocate that they be held in contempt.

  134. StraightShooter

    Doomlord, I believe yours is the best and freest forum in Oz and I thank you for making it as good as it is. I don’t comment often and yes, I am sometimes a little more than one-eyed, but I love the wonderful camaraderie here. Thank you for letting me speak.

  135. cohenite

    Bolt has been very strong on alarmism and other great causes of the diseased left. But he does have a left background and a lot of what we now see as progressive would have been classified as wowerism in the old days: nowadays it is political correctness. Bolt can be very proper. And that propriety is what is confusing him about Trump who obviously likes a root and is a bit of a lad. The left liked Hawke because he was one of theirs but Trump isn’t.

  136. struth

    If anyone here thinks that – then your moral compass is very seriously awry. You have allowed your hatred and bigotry to consume your reason.

    Contempt?

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