Have Trump’s plans on global warming changed?

You could get that impression by reading your daily paper or listening to the usual sources. Here is James Delingpole to set you straight: No, Donald Trump Hasn’t Suddenly Gone Soft on ‘Global Warming’. But here is a quote he gives us from Trump that really is astonishing, and could be scaled down for Australia but would be of that kind of relative magnitude. The question is about whether there is any connection between human action and the weather:

TRUMP: I think right now … well, I think there is some connectivity. There is some, something. It depends on how much. It also depends on how much it’s going to cost our companies. You have to understand, our companies are noncompetitive right now.

They’re really largely noncompetitive. About four weeks ago, I started adding a certain little sentence into a lot of my speeches, that we’ve lost 70,000 factories since W. Bush. 70,000. When I first looked at the number, I said: ‘That must be a typo. It can’t be 70, you can’t have 70,000, you wouldn’t think you have 70,000 factories here.’ And it wasn’t a typo, it’s right. We’ve lost 70,000 factories.

We’re not a competitive nation with other nations anymore. We have to make ourselves competitive. We’re not competitive for a lot of reasons.

That’s becoming more and more of the reason. Because a lot of these countries that we do business with, they make deals with our president, or whoever, and then they don’t adhere to the deals, you know that. And it’s much less expensive for their companies to produce products. So I’m going to be studying that very hard, and I think I have a very big voice in it. And I think my voice is listened to, especially by people that don’t believe in it. And we’ll let you know.

Millennials wonder why their job prospects are as lousy as they are and their incomes are so low. Here is part of the reason why.

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28 Responses to Have Trump’s plans on global warming changed?

  1. The life that most of us have enjoyed so far has been made possible because of cheap and plentiful energy. Take that away and we start to go backwards. There is no way to argue against this.

  2. Tom

    Trump is a master: when he feeds the chooks, he has got them so desperate for a crumb that they’re reading his ambivalence as agreement with their mad world view, especially those retards at the NY Times (like the NYT’s mad uncle Thomas Friedman) trying to coax him into their sob bubble. They’re going to be so disappointed.

  3. Tel

    Is Myron Ebell still on track to head up the EPA?

  4. It’s not just southern Australian states taking hits for Gaia. Canada is doing what it can, especially in Ontario, to send the price of energy through the roof to get rid of that silly competitive advantage it has enjoyed for too long.

    But an institution called (creepily) the Toronto Atmospheric Fund has a crafty solution for worried consumers. It points out that “every kilowatt hour saved will translate into lower bills”. So…memorise your way to the bathroom at night and you may not need to turn on a light. It’s like dieting advice!

    When Prime Minister Home Alone really gets cracking with his carbon taxes, expect lots of mysterious trips and stumbles in the middle of the night. And if the local take-out is not re-gassing its fridges as often as it should, Canadians may need extra trips to the bathroom.

    As for looming business failures in Ontario, just remember Big Green’s great unwritten motto: You can’t incinerate an omelet without smashing all the eggs.

  5. Anne

    The question is about whether there is any connection between human action and the weather:

    Oh, well, that’s different from Climate Change. I can change the weather just by scheduling a Bonfire or a BBQ.

  6. RobK

    Trump is thusfar displaying masterful direction, communication and administration. A pleasure to watch. Long may it continue into his tenure of office. Putting prices in place well in advance, much like a chess master, playing a routine he is obviously familiar with. My cautious optimism persists.

  7. RobK

    Prices should have been pieces.

  8. Dr Fred Lenin

    I suppose the N/y/t is slipping down the hole like fauxfacs ,maybe Trump wants to give it oxygen to keep it alive untill he proves to new yorkers ] how wrong and biased they were .when New Yorkers treat it with total disdain he will pull the plug on it ,and let it slip into oblivion ,with the rest of the printed media ,and psywallers ,comrades ! History beckons dont know what will happen to the leftist stenographers ,retraining as porters and public toilet cleaners ? Jobs they are nearly capable of .

  9. …retraining as porters and public toilet cleaners…

    I resent you putting down workers doing unappreciated jobs that require diligence and care. Journalists have demonstrated that they do not possess such qualities.

  10. Sinclair Davidson

    So we have gone from climate change is a Chinese hoax to there is “some connectivity” to humans? Sounds like a sell-out to me. Trump is going to pull an Abbott.

  11. Bruce of Newcastle

    Always worthwhile to see what the enemies are doing. At the moment: panicking.

    Mikey And Kev Upset That Trump is Cutting Off Their Scam Funding

    The Guardian reports that two of the top recipients of Obama climate scam money are upset that Trump is cutting them off.

    Mikey would be our friend Mike the Hockey Stick Mann and Kev would be Kevin it-is-a-travesty Trenberth.

  12. srr

    so just the thursday open thread is broken?

  13. RobK

    Sinc,
    I think the reference to “chinese hoax” was more an indication of where the comparative lay in the contrived UN apparatus.

  14. RobK

    Sinc,
    I think the reference to “chinese hoax” was more an indication of where the comparative advantage lay in the contrived UN apparatus.

  15. Viva

    Trump having an “open mind” on climate change is in itself a major heresy. The correct response is is “the science is settled”.

    Nevertheless having an “open mind” is intended to keep total unbridled hysteria at bay in the meantime. I have used this formulation myself on occasion for the same reason.

  16. Dr Fred Lenin

    Bemused , I meant no offence to those valuable workers,but when the lefty stenographer were forced to go to Tafe for retraining to comply with dole rules ,these would be suitable jobs in keeping with their work experience and inherent abilities . The Real porters and toilet cleaners would probably reject them as a bunch of tossers and they would be correct

  17. Trump do an Abbott? That Wascally Abbott again?

    I’m about as skeptical as they come about the claims of the climatariat, but even I believe in “some connectivity”. I even believe in “global warming”, since the alternative is to believe in a static climate and thus deny human and natural history.

    I won’t mention the T-word in a negative context (we know the drill by now, Sinc), and I wouldn’t dream of giving Trump, say, 14+ months to show his stuff (still avoiding that T-word, Sinc)…

    But I’d at least give the guy a few weeks in office.

  18. Eddystone

    Sinclair Davidson
    #2218916, posted on November 25, 2016 at 10:47 am

    So we have gone from climate change is a Chinese hoax to there is “some connectivity” to humans? Sounds like a sell-out to me. Trump is going to pull an Abbott.

    Ha ha! You’re taking the piss, right?

  19. jupes

    Ha ha! You’re taking the piss, right?

    Of course.

    Sinc loves trolling his own site.

  20. Dr Fred Lenin

    #2219023, posted on November 25, 2016 at 12:40 pm

    Bemused , I meant no offence to those valuable workers…

    I don’t think that you meant to disparage such workers, but when comparing journos to those that have ethical and essentially important jobs that many find repulsive ie ‘dirty jobs’ , I’d always look for examples that match the ethics and skill sets of journos. Anyone that works for a living is certainly not an example.

  21. Crossie

    What a surprise journalists are misrepresenting what Trump said. Don’t they realise that by doing so they are confirming his charge against them that they lie at every opportunity?

    Having achieved distrust among 70% of the population they are now aiming for a clean sweep.

  22. NewChum

    So we have gone from climate change is a Chinese hoax to there is “some connectivity” to humans? Sounds like a sell-out to me. Trump is going to pull an Abbott.

    Another chook fed and happy, clucking away.

    Trump enjoys punking the media. The NYT seems to be his favourite victim.

    Don’t be like the NYT. Don’t fall for the bait.

    Those climate deals are as dead as the TPP and open borders.

  23. JC

    The huge risk with Trump is that his daughter is a leftist and he trusts her input. Big problem.

  24. NewChum

    Kushner seems like a smart bloke. Some say he was most responsible for the low-cost,efficient win in Cincinnati yeast to the massive, ineffective cash bleeding Clinton operation. I’m sure he’ll keep his wife’s crazy leftiness in check. Sooner or later the left will really attack her and she will abandon them for good.

  25. NewChum

    Contrast not Cincinnati yeast. FMD.

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