Sentimentality and politics

The greatest enemy for getting anything done in politics is sentimentality, an exaggerated concern for propriety. The left in politics have for many years made suckers of the right by pretending to care about things that the right really do care about but which are mere levers to anyone on the left. That Mrs Clinton can have made an issue about some locker-room tape of a decade ago while still married to Mr Clinton is only possible because Republicans actually care about such things while no Democrat ever really does. But they do pretend. I also think of our own piling on of Bronwyn Bishop over a helicopter ride by both sides but when Tony Burke was found to have done even worse, the story lasted a day or so and then died.

So Hillary said that she would accept the result of the election. But that was before and now there is mileage to be made in not accepting the result so off she goes. This being an election year in which anything can happen, I am not reassured that there is no basis for such a challenge or that it cannot succeed. It also depends on what success is, and actually becoming president is only one possible outcome. Weakening Trump’s authority to act is another. And there are no doubt others.

That the Democrat political constituency is from a different planet has been evident for a long time, but this story from The Washington Post has really confirmed it: I haven’t slept in my room since the election. I discussed it yesterday – under Socialism is a cult – but thought then that it might be satirical. Nothing of the sort. I asked myself whether he was just very funny or was insane. Turns out he’s not a satirist, but you really must read it all to appreciate the raw material of left politics in the US. This is how it begins:

Since the election, I haven’t slept in my dorm room once. I’ve slept on couches, futons, floors and unoccupied beds in my friends’ homes. At first, it came from a need to be with people who supported me and understood how scary this political moment is for young people who grew up under the liberal auspices of an Obama presidency and came of age politically in a time marked by progressive movements such as that of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). But after I went home for clean clothes to find an anti-gay hate message written on my door, right next to a set of stickers spelling out “Vote 4 Hillary,” my couch-surfing took on new urgency. I was no longer searching for comfort from my peers — I was trying to preserve a sense of safety.

More to the point even is to read the comments on the article which is at the Washington Post so it’s not some hicksville readership. That there is widespread understanding and sympathy with this lad’s psychodrama does make me wonder about how mad the world may really be.

The only bit of flotsam I still cling to is that perhaps Trump is normal and the people he will bring into government are also normal. But first there are the recounts and then, who knows, the entire mess might yet end up being decided in Congress. That is, if the death threats to the members of the Electoral College don’t turn enough votes to Hillary first.

AND FURTHERMORE: This is Helen Smith discussing the mental problems of the left in an article on Maybe Their Mental Health Wasn’t That Good Before the Election found at Instapundit. She quotes from an article in The Economist titled, America’s election has led to a boomlet for therapists.

Around the country therapists say anxious conversations about politics have become inevitable. “I’ve never had an election like this,” says Joe Kort, a psychotherapist in Michigan. Some of his clients are apparently showing signs of post-traumatic stress. Many have decided to skip the usual turkey meal if it means avoiding a confrontation with a gloating uncle. Awkwardly, avoidance is not an option for some of his trickiest customers: married couples who pulled levers for rival candidates. “I have clients who say ‘I don’t know if I can stay married to someone who would vote for a misogynist, a xenophobe’. I try to get them to stop trying to change each other’s minds, to just hear each other.”

The problem, though, is that many of these therapists are as loony as their clients:

Therapists often pride themselves on their neutrality, but demography tells another story. Most are concentrated in left-leaning cities on the coasts, and more than two-thirds are women. Many will privately allow that they too have been grieving since the election. “Trump is unleashing the worse angels of our nature,” says William Doherty, a psychologist at the University of Minnesota. His manifesto against the rise of the bullying tactics of “Trumpism” has collected over 3,500 signatures from fellow therapists.

What a double dose these people must have endured with the almost simultaneous death of Castro. The dissonance in their lives must be at fantastic levels. You might want to laugh at such people – truly hard to find room for sympathy – but they are doing so much to ruin the world that it is impossible to do much other than to wish on them many more years of suffering as they have to live through a generation of sound government, with hopefully the first eight led by Donald Trump.

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35 Responses to Sentimentality and politics

  1. Eyrie

    Those demanding recounts at this time are playing with fire. Civil war/revolution is one possible outcome.

  2. Tom

    Q: Would the left risk civil war to reverse the Trump victory? A: yes. It may take such an event to settle the matter and render the DNC unelectable for half a century.

  3. stackja

    More to the point even is to read the comments on the article which is at the Washington Post so it’s not some hicksville readership. That there is widespread understanding and sympathy with this lad’s psychodrama does make me wonder about how mad the world may really be.

    WaPo readership has lost the plot years ago. Same as other MSM readership.

  4. Joe

    WaPo readership has lost the plot years ago. Same as other MSM readership.

    Which is why the readership of those “mastheads” is so small. It represents the insane.

  5. Andrew

    Q: Would the left risk civil war to reverse the Trump victory? A: yes. It may take such an event to settle the matter and render the DNC unelectable for half a century.

    All you need to know is that the left is backed and funded by Soros. They know full well that lobbing 160,000 duplicate ballots into a recount and reversing the election won’t be accepted by the 90% of counties that voted for T666. (Basically, the entire country except the main cities, a NE liberal pocket and the drug-fucked hippies moving to Colorado for legalised “medical” marijuana voted for T666. And it’s the 90% with the guns – virtually no law-abiding voter in NYC has a gun.)

    For Soros (and therefore the Dems) the BEST case is that the result is overturned on an obviously corrupt recount that splits the country into de jure or de facto civil war, rendering it ungovernable. Soros funded the riots, cop-killers BLM etc. He cheered the Griks when they blew up the country and sent unemployment towards 30% with their failed stimulus. He comes in buying cheap assets or shorting currencies. If he knows that enough votes have been planted to flip WI, he will short the USD. It’s the ultimate insider trading to blow up a country.

    Illary will take the stance that she was the innocent victim of massive electoral fraud by T666 and Putin, and is now just returning to claim the Presidency that was rightly hers. Congress will treat her like the POS she is, but there’s no downside for her. The meeja will 99% take the same position – the average voter might ever start to believe it as they’ve had “Putin” rammed down their throat for 3 months. (He was an ally before that, when it suited the Kenyan to mock Romney666.)

    There is no way they’re spending $7m just to humiliate themselves by getting the same count again and be a national laughing stock – a failed recount would probably end Stain’s political career.

  6. Joe

    There is no way they’re spending $7m just to humiliate themselves by getting the same count again and be a national laughing stock – a failed recount would probably end Stain’s political career.

    Stupid does as stupid is.

  7. cynical1

    Did you have to mention Burke?

    If ever a face was made for kicking…

  8. Eyrie

    “Q: Would the left risk civil war to reverse the Trump victory? A: yes. It may take such an event to settle the matter and render the DNC unelectable for half a century.”

    It might make the DNC and many of its supporters extinct actually.

  9. Bruce in WA

    I have read, but not have confirmed, that the Obama administration is not in favour of a recount and will not support it in any way.

    Oh, hang on, here we go:

    Officials in the Obama administration threw cold water on the effort to recount votes in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania on Friday.

    The effort was spearheaded by Green Party candidate Jill Stein, who echoed arguments that Russia may have hacked US voting machines to interfere with the outcome of the November 8 election.

    A statement from the Obama administration cited by The New York Times acknowledged that the Kremlin likely expected the hacking of some Democratic Party entities in the run-up to Election Day to raise questions about the voting process and the legitimacy of President-elect Donald Trump’s victory.

    “Nevertheless, we stand behind our election results, which accurately reflect the will of the American people,” the statement read.

    Speculation that electronic voting machines could be hacked has largely been debunked, primarily because the machines are not connected to the internet.

  10. H B Bear

    Every four years US elections kill off any prospect of electronic voting in Australia.

    Good.

  11. Boambee John

    California already has a (leftist) secession movement.

    Persuade New York, New Jersey and Illimois to join them and the Democrats are finished in the residual US.

  12. mareeS

    Sentimentality in politics: I have just been defenestrated by a former journalist friend, now ALP helper, who took exception to me laughing at one of her preschool colleagues for crying on the floor of the parliament last week.

    I said “boo-hoo,” she said “you are so cruel,” I said “yep, grow up.” She cried.

    It is such fun being a conservative., there are so many easy targets.

  13. Tim Neilson

    Speculation that electronic voting machines could be hacked has largely been debunked, primarily because the machines are not connected to the internet.
    Thanks Bruce, that made my day.
    And to think that before the election the MSM was pontificating about how when Trump lost his supporters would refuse to accept the result, indulge in bizarre conspiracy theories, and engage in violence.
    Truly “Through the Looking Glass’ stuff.
    If there’s a statistical discrepancy that shows electronic voting being less favourable to Clinton than paper ballots, it can easily be explained by reference to the Franken/Coleman Senate race in 2008, when there were two recounts – the first after Coleman won narrowly and the Dems subsequently showed up with some “overlooked” boxes of ballots, and the second when the first one accidentally left Franken still a few hundred votes short, after which further “overlooked” boxes were found, and despite voter turnout thus rising to 120% in some districts a Dem appointed judge confirmed Franken to be the winner.

  14. Fat Tony

    For Soros, civil war would be an acceptable (& probably preferable) outcome.

  15. Zatara

    There is no way they’re spending $7m just to humiliate themselves by getting the same count again and be a national laughing stock – a failed recount would probably end Stain’s political career.

    They aren’t spending $7m, that’s what they have collected so far. Yuuuuge difference.

    The fees to contest are more like $150,000. Call the legal and admin fees another $150,000. That’s $.3M. Guess who keeps the other $6.7M?

    Suckering in leftist morons is a money maker, plain and simple.

  16. Bruce in WA

    New Chum — intriguing theory. Thanks for that. Personally, I believe the Dems are desperate enough to try anything. They want it so badly they can taste it. And if they can’t have the chalice, they’ll make damned sure it’s poisoned before they hand it over.

  17. Rabz

    the machines are not connected to the internet

    Which of course, was invented by a victim of electoral fraud, Fat Al Bore.

  18. mh

    George Davros has invested too much in the New World Order to let Trump disrupt his plans. I don’t know if Soros can fix the recount, but he will be trying to stop Trump by all means at his disposal. That might even mean assassination.

  19. Tel

    Speculation that electronic voting machines could be hacked has largely been debunked, primarily because the machines are not connected to the internet.

    Does anyone remember the SCADA workstations inside the Iranian nuclear facilities and the whole “Stuxor” affair? They not only scrunted the bearings on the nuclear centrifuges by running them outside their safe operating parameters but also programmed the workstations to play AC/DC Thunderstruck just for that artistic touch of insult to injury and abject humiliation.

    Yeah, well those weren’t connected to the Internet either… didn’t save their arse.

  20. duncanm

    More to the point even is to read the comments on the article which is at the Washington Post so it’s not some hicksville readership. That there is widespread understanding and sympathy with this lad’s psychodrama does make me wonder about how mad the world may really be.

    mmm… maybe you’re not reading the same comments I am?

    try sorting by ‘oldest first’ – the kiddy winkums gets excoriated by most.

  21. Ant

    Weakening Trump’s authority to act is another.

    I expect the undermining will be relentless, including from the Republican skunks who run Congress and who have no intention of doing anything that upsets their big crony corporatist donors too much.

    Mitch McConnell (US Senator for 32 years) wasted no time in rejecting Trump’s promise to force term limits on House & Senate members, for example.

    But Trump will find some real allies in Congress for most of the things he says he wants to do, such as one who some of the nuttier Cats write off as some kind of nefarious UN/globalist/Goldman Sachs/hedge fund loving/Soros/Bilderberger/etc Satanist.

  22. Tator

    Ant,
    looking at that link where Cruz is talking about no government officials being sent for Castro’s funeral, I would do the opposite, but I would find the most vocal Castro opponent within the US, make them a special envoy with full diplomatic immunity and send them over as a big up yours to Cuba. And sail the Atlantic battle group right up to territorial waters locked and loaded as a warning not to touch them. Rattling the biggest sabre out there. But Obumma is the biggest pussy there is so none of this would ever happen.

  23. Botswana O'Hooligan

    The effort was spearheaded by Green Party candidate Jill Stein, who echoed arguments that Russia may have hacked US voting machines to interfere with the outcome of the November 8 election.

    And Tony Abbott wasn’t even mentioned as another cause?

  24. Ant

    I suggested previously that they send Chris Christie, Tator.

    He’s about the size of an Atlantic battle group.

  25. I’ve often suspected that Leftism is a disease (or similar), some are cured, some may suffer milder bouts, while others become seriously debilitated. It cannot be a mental illness as that is not transmittable, diseases are transmitted.

  26. H B Bear

    Whom The Donald would destroy, he first makes mad.

  27. Andrew

    New Chum
    #2221849, posted on November 28, 2016 at 12:21 pm
    Could this be the reason for the recount ?
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/11/the_democrats_real_strategy_in_launching_recounts.html

    Interesting.

    Can anyone verify that if only N-46 electoral college delegates are appointed, that 260-232 would not constitute a clear majority for that purpose? Does that actually then get treated as 46 votes abstaining, depriving T666 of a majority?

    The other thing with killing off 3 winning states is that even the DNC – Crimton mafiosi can’t flip enough EC delegates to overcome his bigly victory. But if they get that down to 260-232, that’s more manageable. Only have to flip about 15. Or kill 29. Or some combination.

  28. Lem

    Therapists love personality disorders. It’s a case of, they never get better, and “see you next week!”

  29. Monkey's Uncle

    And to think that before the election the MSM was pontificating about how when Trump lost his supporters would refuse to accept the result, indulge in bizarre conspiracy theories, and engage in violence.

    It wasn’t just MSM pontificating. Trump made it clear that he wouldn’t accept the results unless he won.

    Moreover, in 2012 when it looked like Mitt Romney might win the popular vote but lose the electoral college, Trump tweeted (later deleted) about what an outrage and a joke it was and called upon people to march on Washington. Had Trump won the popular vote but lost the electoral college, have no doubt that he would not have accepted the results and would have screamed blue murder.

    I agree that one of the characteristics of leftists is that they don’t tend to respect institutions or processes unless they deliver the desired outcome, in which case they expect everyone to accept the outcome. On that score, Trump reveals himself to be the leftist he has always really been.

    Truly the Trump ascendancy is one of the biggest trolls since the Sokal hoax.

  30. Zatara

    Can anyone verify that if only N-46 electoral college delegates are appointed, that 260-232 would not constitute a clear majority for that purpose? Does that actually then get treated as 46 votes abstaining, depriving T666 of a majority?

    What happens if no presidential candidate gets 270 Electoral votes?

    “If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote. The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House.”

  31. Andrew

    Z, I’ve read that. It’s written from the perspective of an EC in which 538 electors vote and noone gets a majority.

    It’s not clear to me that this 270 threshhold applies in a 492-elector college with 3 states not in a position to participate. I assume there’s no precedent in which electors aren’t sent (although there have been ones that abstained).

  32. Helen

    Would you have said the same if Trump had demanded a recount?
    The claim that the right really cares about things but the left doesn’t is silly. The left could claim the reverse on similar grounds. But the real problem is this continual use of the blocks left and right to male silly generalisations about people – human beings- all of whom have strengths and weaknesses in about the same direction and degree regardless of their political label.
    Too much sentimentality? Concern for propriety? How about a bit of civility?
    Of course, we should appreciate that the ‘left’ are just having nervous breakdowns in these confected stories, a bit safer for all than if the right had taken to the streets with their guns if Trump has lost! There, it’s easy to generalise.

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