Monday Forum: December 12, 2016

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  1. Mark A

    Anne
    Custard, I never use the imbedded link option in case someone wants to copy/paste my comment without going to the extra effort of opening the link and copying it.

    Hey, it could happen. 🙂

    All you have to do is right click on the embedded text and ‘copy link location’

  2. egg_

    Squalid’s Al Jizzerer reports from Antarctica.

    Frozen jizz, in case Aunty needs a new snow clone?
    /sorry

  3. marcus w

    Marcus, tonight your designated sexual intercourse will be with a mentally handicapped (I.e. Leftist) short, fat ugly Khazak person of unspecified gender with halitosis and pungent body odour.

    Because fairness (to her or to you, that wasn’t made clear 😉 )

    To my dearest beery . that is not just tonight ….that’s every night for me …. but thanks to the wonderful world of beer I don’t really notice

  4. srr

    egg_
    #2234197, posted on December 13, 2016 at 3:41 pm

    “Victoria police officers allegedly caught partying on ice, cocaine and ecstasy would send each other joking texts about their drug use

    Plod is that thick?

    yeah, but be fair; ice, cocaine and ecstasy use, does impair ones judgement … oh, wait …

  5. Baldrick

    ‘He’ and ‘she’ are now ‘ze’ at Oxford:

    Students at Oxford have been told to use gender neutral pronouns such as “ze” rather than “he” or “she”.
    The move, outlined in a students’ union leaflet, is intended to stop transgender students being offended. Deliberately using the wrong pronoun for a transgender person is an offence under Oxford’s behaviour code.
    Students hope the use of gender neutral pronouns will be extended to lectures and seminars. The gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell welcomed the step: “This issue isn’t about being PC. It’s about respecting people’s right to define themselves as neither male nor female.”

  6. Mother Lode

    Essential Poll has the Turnbull Government falling back again to just 47 per cent to Labor’s 53.

    What did he seriously think was going to happen when he got took stole the top job?

    Obviously he thought he was going to be universally loved. But did his gambolling imagination ever pause long enough to imagine how this would come about?

    What did he think he was going to do that would have Australians stopping to say to each other, “You know what? That Mal is a pretty good bloke. He’s done great by us!”

    Or “I am so glad we are combatting climate change. I could never rein in my appetite for using electricity if I wasn’t taxed more. Good onya Mal!”

    Or even “We have become so much more a loving, tolerant society. My boyfriend Mohammad and I are so glad we can be reimbursed for our jalapeno-infused lubricant gel on Medicare, and claim our leathers for the Mardi Gras on taxes. Two thumbs up Mal! And I mean to leave out the comma when I say that.”

  7. Gab

    Students at Oxford have been told to use gender neutral pronouns such as “ze” rather than “he” or “she”.
    The move, outlined in a students’ union leaflet, i

    So what penalties will the student union and the university impose if people decide this is all a crock of sh!t and use the time-honoured personal pronouns that normal people use today?

  8. Habib

    Q: What’s the difference between Dylan Voller and Ben Cousins?
    A: Ben Cousins evokes some degree of sympathy.

    Not from me, the dickhead was farting through silk, and tipped it all down the dunny. I’m surprised he wasn’t shot when he went for a wander around Campbell Barracks.

  9. Mother Lode

    Squalid’s Al Jizzerer reports from Antarctica.

    If he doesn’t keep moving he will be mistaken for a streak of penguin droppings.

  10. Anne

    Thanks Mark, but I use the iPhone exclusively.

    No Right click.

  11. Anne

    I should be gardening but it’s just too hot.

  12. Baldrick

    So what penalties will the student union and the university impose if people decide this is all a crock of sh!t and use the time-honoured personal pronouns that normal people use today?

    They’ll take away your student union discount card and make you listen to 6 hours of Bono music until you comply.

  13. wivenhoe

    Anne, your link does not work for me, so what was it, you in a bikini beside the pool?

  14. Anne

    The second one works, Wivenhoe.

    It certainly looks neat but I still like the idea of displaying the whole site so it can be copied easily.

  15. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspreeklike

    Dylan Voller’s youth advocate gives evidence

    Former federal MP Natasha Griggs says the public should stop treating Northern Territory teen inmate Dylan Voller like a “martyr”.

    The 19-year-old came out of an adult jail on Monday to give evidence at the NT Royal Commission into Juvenile Justice.

    He became the face of the mistreatment of young offenders in the Territory when footage of him being tear-gassed, spit-hooded and shackled to a restraint chair shocked the nation earlier this year and triggered the inquiry.

    Voller received a round of applause and was thanked by co-commissioner Mick Gooda for his bravery in coming forward, despite fears of repercussions from prison guards while still in custody.

    Among his allegations were claims that he was hogtied, stripped at knifepoint and denied food and water at different times during his detention.

    But Ms Griggs, the ex Country Liberals politician who lost her NT seat of Solomon in the 2016 federal election, went on social media to remind people of the crimes Voller had committed.

    More: Voller ‘hogtied, stripped at knifepoint’

    “I was shocked to see Voller dressed in a suit and looking angelic as he gave evidence,” she posted on Facebook on Tuesday.

    “Our community (his victims, his neighbours, the police and the correctional services staff) haven’t forgotten what he has done.” Ms Griggs suggested the public were blaming the criminal justice system and “every one else”, but never admitting it could be the fault of Voller, his family or their culture.

    “Stop making this guy a martyr!” she said.

    While sharing his story, Voller said he was starved, stripped and forced to defecate in a pillowcase while locked up as a boy.

    He painted a disturbing picture of mental and physical torment, demanding changes to the juvenile justice system and asking for rehabilitation instead of punishment.

    From the Oz. Anyone care to imagine the grooming beforehand? “Say you weren’t proud of what you did, play the victim card, and don’t say you were forced to shyte in a pillowcase, use the word defecate.

  16. The fact there is a de-population agenda in progress since the 70s with a more recent replacement strategy by the left and that this whole project doesn’t seem to bother you and some others, is something I find rather disturbing.

    You do know what Plan B is by them, don’t you, Zip? Depopulation by other means.

  17. Armadillo

    It certainly looks neat but I still like the idea of displaying the whole site so it can be copied easily.

    Yep, and people get an idea where you are sending them to. No surprises. Much better.

    [Hell, who am I kidding? I can’t work out the the Linky thingy. If at first you don’t succeed, try again. Then give up].

  18. Rabz

    LOL – precious petals hyperventilate over some stupid ads – comments below about the lee lin dragon lamb ad:

    One complainant said the ad was offensive because a vegan’s house is lit on fire while the vegan is still inside because he won’t eat lamb. “I know someone who lives in a vegan household, and their child watched the ad and became fearful that people would burn their house down,” the complainant said. A second complainant said the ad “sends a message saying that veganism is wrong and non-acceptable“.

    Another said the use of the use of the term “Operation Boomerang” showed a “distinctly anglo, and culturally insensitive approach“.

    Via the silly moaning hemorrhoid and no, I’m not linking to it.

  19. egg_

    You do know what Plan B is by them, don’t you, Zip? Depopulation by other means.

    If the Greens are complaining that Global food production is causing ‘excess’ Methane, thereby threatening CAGW, that must be their ‘ultimate’ solution?

  20. Roger

    …gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell welcomed the step: “This issue isn’t about being PC. It’s about respecting people’s right to define themselves as neither male nor female.”

    Right. It’s about being PC then.

  21. Roger

    New term heard today during interview with Trump spokesperson:

    “Election deniers.”

  22. egg_

    “Election deniers.”

    Election envy?

  23. Whalehunt Fun

    If the Greens are complaining that Global food production is causing ‘excess’ Methane, thereby threatening CAGW, that must be their ‘ultimate’ solution?

    Yes. Mass suicide by the Greens. And in case they lose enthusiasm, the chaps who hunt baby fur seals with clubs can be paid a small amount for each skin they bring in.

  24. Roger

    You’re very quick, egg_.

    🙂

  25. John64

    Students at Oxford have been told to use gender neutral pronouns such as “ze” rather than “he” or “she”.

    “It” is a non-gender specific pronoun. Works fine as far as I am concerned.

  26. Geriatric Mayfly

    Peter Tatchell did have one moment of glory, and it’s been all downhill since. He tried to effect a citizens’ arrest on Mugabe as he motored from his 5 star moorings down to Harrod’s. The goons beat him off before he could collar the old gorilla and drag him out of his limousine.

  27. Carpe Jugulum

    So what penalties will the student union and the university impose if people decide this is all a crock of sh!t and use the time-honoured personal pronouns that normal people use today?

    Force them to watch Morris dancing 🎼🎤🎧

  28. DrBeauGan

    Now, I do think that our moral sense ( or sense of humour) can be ill-tutored, by habituated vice or ignorance, as in the examples you provide above, but in judging the licitness of our moral sense in this or that circumstance, we must always make reasoned judgments that refer to principles. There is simply no way around this fact.

    The trouble is that the SJWs are only too happy to decide my moral sense, and my sense of humour, doesn’t come up to scratch and are quite prepared to judge its licitness by reasoned judgments. And ready to remedy the defects by tutoring my habituated vice or ignorance. Oh, boy, are they ready.

    I knew a SJW once, and he was quite clear about what moral behaviour was. It was declaiming politically correct pieties. Actual conduct, truth, meaning, all were irrelevant. He had, as far as I could tell, no innate moral sense whatever. A look into his mind gave me the dry heaves. He was a Christian, I think Anglican.

    Your position is dangerously close to his. If you want to ensure that I am obligated to over-ride my conscience when it challenges your rules, your principles, you differ only on the actual principles.

    Understand, I prefer yours to his, but my preference is based on the conclusion, from your moral judgments, that mostly I wouldn’t have to do much over-riding in any case.

    Actually I wouldn’t do any. I want to be happy and it’s impossible to be happy if one part of you despises the rest of you for being a shit.

  29. marcus w

    You’re very quick, egg_.

    He’s on the boil

  30. Carpe Jugulum


    Election envy?

    Elective dysfunction?

  31. Carpe Jugulum

    Stupid autocorrect

  32. Roger

    Peter Tatchell did have one moment of glory, and it’s been all downhill since. He tried to effect a citizens’ arrest on Mugabe as he motored from his 5 star moorings down to Harrod’s.

    No – just another pathetic stunt from a serial pest, GM.

    As a head of state Mugabe has immunity from criminal prosecution by an English court ratione matariae.

  33. Leigh Lowe

    Given the return of the faux Viet-vet, can we have a [scrollpastfast] button added please Jacques?

  34. Rabz

    he was quite clear about what moral behaviour was. It was declaiming politically correct pieties

    Because if there is one activity on this planet I simply can’t get enough of, it’s listening to collectivist tosspots and rake magnets declaiming politically correct pieties*, e.g. people have a “right” to define themselves as neither male nor female.

    *Or “pie ties”, as spellwrecker informs me.

  35. Senile Old Guy

    The gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell welcomed the step: “This issue isn’t about being PC. It’s about respecting people’s right to define themselves as neither male nor female.”

    Aside from a very small proportion of the population, people are male or female: it is a fundamental biological feature. A man cannot ‘define’ himself to be female. Just saying it, doesn’t make it so.

  36. Rabz

    Just saying it, doesn’t make it so.

    Perception versus reality, in other words.

  37. Anne

    You do know what Plan B is by them, don’t you, Zip?

    Depopulation by other means.

    Is that the one about the Clash of Civilisations?

    Or rather more correctly, introducing Barbarians into Civilised Modern Societies with raping and plundering until they kill each other off, leaving the weak and the women?

  38. The fact there is a de-population agenda in progress since the 70s with a more recent replacement strategy by the left and that this whole project doesn’t seem to bother you and some others, is something I find rather disturbing.

    You do know what Plan B is by them, don’t you, Zip? Depopulation by other means.

    There is no co-existing with the core left, it’s very much them or us. and it ain’t going to be us.

  39. Fisky

    Zippy, do you believe that whites should have more rights than non-whites?

  40. Mother Lode

    You’re very quick, egg_.

    And there was me thinking they called him ‘3-minute egg’ because…oh, it doesn’t matter.

  41. wivenhoe

    The gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell welcomed the step: “This issue isn’t about being PC. It’s about respecting people’s right to define themselves as neither male nor female.”

    So then, by extension, does that give me the right to call them wanking idiots.

  42. Geriatric Mayfly

    Someone who looks like a true-blue Islamophobe has been stripped of his gun license by none other than Ashton himself. Entangled in the Bendigo mosque furore, his Facechook postings did not amuse the Chief Commissioner. A busy boy this Ashton fellow. Paywallian.

  43. Senile Old Guy

    Just saying it, doesn’t make it so.

    Perception versus reality, in other words.

    More like imagination versus reality.

  44. Armadillo

    Given the return of the faux Viet-vet, can we have a [scrollpastfast] button added please Jacques?

    Heh. Gab (the Twitter alternative) has that option. They just don’t appear on your feed. It’s like they don’t exist. Probably saves having a heap of moderators and censorship. I’m assuming any complaints are greeted with a simple “If you think they are full of shit, bad luck. I’m not booting him. Thats what your filter button is for. Otherwise, argue with him”. Pretty simple really.

  45. mizaris

    “This issue isn’t about being PC. It’s about respecting people’s right to define themselves as neither male nor female.”

    That’s what IT was invented for.

  46. pete m

    Winning and swimming in lefty tears, Krugman’s no less!!!

    hahahaha

  47. BrettW

    So the QUT case is thrown out and significant costs awarded against Prior but none against her lawyer.

    Now the lawyer is still busy trying to appeal out of time no doubt racking up more legal fees from the students side. How is Moriarty not liable, especially if she is doing it pro bono ?

    Good to see they have been tracking all the comments about the case. Guess they would have preferred all the students pay the “go away money” quietly and had no publicity.

    The whole point of this case is that it could have been anybody’s son. My son was actually at QUT at that time. Tony Morris QC is a legend as far as I am concerned.

  48. wivenhoe

    IT So for the uneducated amoungst us(read me)does IT stand for Ignoramus Totalitarian, or something like that.

  49. Tom

    Winning and swimming in lefty tears, Krugman’s no less!!!

    Krugman has been given the job by the global left of constructing the propaganda narrative that Crooked would have won if it wasn’t for the Russians. No evidence will ever be tendered; the left doesn’t need evidence in its alternate reality.

    What Krugman’s construction does dogwhistle, however, four years of leftist street violence is inevitable, which means Trump will smash whoever the left puts up in 2020.

  50. Makka

    So, everything appears normal then?

    “Vast amounts of data stored by the Australian Taxation Office have been lost in the crash that brought down the agency’s internal systems and customer service websites on Monday and Tuesday.

    Large numbers of ATO officials were still sitting idle on Tuesday afternoon, unable to use their computers for a second day in the latest public service tech meltdown.”

  51. .

    Relax Anne, it’s no different to Catholics and others into a lot of dress up and theater … of course they don’t actually believe in any of it …

    What a bigoted arsewipe.

  52. Gab

    Wivenhoe, there’s a commenter here whose gravatar name is Infidel Tiger. Hence the IT. 🙂

  53. Infidel Tiger

    Apparently it got to high 30’s in Sydney today and you are all keeling over from extreme heat.

    Faggots.

    You really are the worst people on earth bar Melburnians.

  54. struth

    If someone with a todger swinging between their legs wants to be called a woman and referred to as one, than I believe there is another sex that hasn’t been described that I want people to call me.

    A Sex God.
    You can write letters to me via snail trail , er, male, um mail.
    Address

    ASG Struth
    69 Er st.
    Massivesack
    Dreamland
    80085
    Or email me at

    [email protected]

  55. .

    Finally got rid of Quora. More dumbarses than FaceBook.

  56. JC

    Infidel Tiger
    #2234313, posted on December 13, 2016 at 6:18 pm

    Apparently it got to high 30’s in Sydney today and you are all keeling over from extreme heat.

    Faggots.

    You really are the worst people on earth bar Melburnians.

    Says the dude who lives in rural village pretending it’s a city.

  57. johanna

    he University of Technology Sydney’s Bachelor of Creative Intelligence and Innovation (BCII).

    Beyond parody.

    Could it be that the punters are realising that degrees in postmodern gender studies are worthless, so here is a new bauble to attract the terminally gullible?

    I cannot imagine an employer with a keen eye on the bottom line hiring one of these dipsticks. By choosing that option, they have already self-identified as lazy and delusional.

  58. JC

    I cannot imagine an employer with a keen eye on the bottom line hiring one of these dipsticks.

    Like the APS.

    Dementia talks about the private sector as though she knows anything remotely about them

  59. Roger

    Tillerson as Sec of State is an inspired choice.

  60. Tom

    The University of Technology Sydney’s Bachelor of Creative Intelligence and Innovation (BCII).

    How can the board of one of these TAFE schools sign off on a new course from which graduates have zero employment prospects? Why are such courses funded by governments when they only swell the ranks of those who will need welfare benefits?

  61. .

    It is a generalist commerce degree you can combine with a wide variety of science majors.

  62. .

    Calling UTS a “TAFE” is bit of a joke.

    I don’t go there but it has the best reputation for law schools in the state. This is what solicitors and barristers have told me. Ones who employ people.

  63. srr

    . [Dot]
    #2234311, posted on December 13, 2016 at 6:17 pm
    Relax Anne, it’s no different to Catholics and others into a lot of dress up and theater … of course they don’t actually believe in any of it …

    What a bigoted arsewipe.

    What a lying, cheating, humourless C – U – N – T … or one of those dress up playing, child sacrificing Luciferians … or member of the the only ‘religion’ to have Australian’s gaoled … or, whatever, just keep showing your outrage for what matters to you, i.e. those who do play dress up and do great evils against children (yeah, that was The Topic you left out of your ‘quote’, as usual, you lying, cheating, humourless C – U – N – T) … oh and yeah, that mob and it’s members are being well and truly fisked thanks to the Podesta emails 😀

  64. JC

    Why are such courses funded by governments when they only swell the ranks of those who will need welfare benefits?

    There has to be a funding angle there somewhere. Always follow the money trail.

    I bet the new degree gets a load of dollars while the tech can swing resources into this from other courses. Government… it’s the only place in the universe where 1 plus 1 equals 3

  65. JC

    Calling UTS a “TAFE” is bit of a joke.

    I don’t go there but it has the best reputation for law schools in the state. This is what solicitors and barristers have told me. Ones who employ people.

    Dot. law is a shit degree these days. It’s the new arts degree. There’s only two places in the country to do law…. if you must. Melbourne and Sydney Uni. Anything else is so so. The reason is the high entrance score suggests the little fucker has a brain.

  66. Roger

    Goodness, an Age journalist on The Drum – Sushi Das – making sense on education and getting under Peter Lewis’s )Essential Media) skin!

  67. .

    Sydney Uni is trading on its name. I’d say it is regressing.

  68. H B Bear

    If people are worried about a post-factual political environment then Essential Media makes perfect sense. They are pre-factual, as if you took Crikey and staffed it with graduates in phrenology. No wonder they are on Teh Dumb.

  69. JC

    Sydney Uni is trading on its name. I’d say it is regressing.

    I’m sure, but brand name means everything.

    I’m sure there are better cars than BMW and Mercedes in the market, but the brand perception is what counts.

    It’s starting to look like the US here when hiring interns and graduates. You always looked down your nose at the second rate schools, because you knew no matter the polluted swill going into a kid’s head at Harvard or Yale, the high SAT score suggested he had a brain.

  70. Baldrick

    #FakeNews

    GhostWhoVotes @GhostWhoVotes
    Essential Poll- Is LIB becoming more progressive or conservative:
    More progressive 14 (-13)
    More conservative 37 (+13)

  71. DrBeauGan

    I see that I don’t need to answer Zippy’s post because lots of others have. But a few thoughts.

    I don’t think telling Zippy that he’s a racist is much of an argument. I don’t disapprove of racism because it’s a moral sin, I disapprove in a rather mild way because it’s stupid. But so many other things people do are stupid, so one more doesn’t get me worked up.

    Zippy feels a need to belong, and he’s chosen white people, who think being a white person is important, as his tribe. I don’t feel a need to belong to a tribe but that’s me. Some people choose a football team to support. Both tribes look equally silly to me, but if it helps make your life more enjoyable, go for it.

    Not everything Zippy says is wrong. Yes, I would knock back his offer of ten million bucks to sterilise me, partly because I don’t need ten million bucks, partly because I don’t believe he’s got ten million bucks, but mainly because I don’t want anyone messing with my balls. I suppose that might be a biological urge to send my genes on to futurity, who knows? I wouldn’t object to sex with an African or aboriginal or asian chick if she were hot enough. The mother of my children was chosen on the basis of being the hottest chick in my undergraduate course. She was the usual grey-pink colour.

    It’s possible, even likely, that most people pick a mate to provide minimal surprise, so the mate will look somewhat like your parent but younger. I like variety and surprise, but most people don’t.

    Yes, there are differences in mean I Q between racial groups. But mostly we are concerned with individuals, Statistical differences don’t mean much in these cases. As has been pointed out depressingly often, the variation within each group is far bigger than the distance between the means of two groups. Gilas and Zippy with their idea of blobs and lumps are just wrong.

    Zippy, I said it once, and you can do the sums to get the numbers if you want. If you want to pick the person with the highest IQ for a job then if you knew absolutely nothing about two candidates, it would be a coin flip, fifty fifty. If you knew only their skin colour and picked the white person, you could improve the odds to slightly better. I leave you to calculate how much better. Of course you might be knocking back Thomas Sowell and choosing, say, Candy, but that’s life. The point is that it be really dumb to make that decision. Ten minutes conversation with the candidates would give you enormously more information. Deciding on the basis of ‘race’ would be really stupid.

    The same applies to most decisions.

    I am in favour of perpetuating my race. That would be the human race. Although sometimes I wonder if it’s worth it.

  72. Bruce of Newcastle

    Tillerson as Sec of State is an inspired choice.

    Quite so.
    The head explosions from Greens, who’ve been ritually demonizing Exxon666 for years, will be epic.
    And the head explosions at State, which is the usual lefty kolkhoz after 8 years of Hillary and Kerry, will be even epic-er.
    And if he chooses Bolton as 2IC he’ll add a big bucket of lithium deuteride to the kiloton yields.

    This is so much fun!

  73. Infidel Tiger

    Says the dude who lives in rural village pretending it’s a city.

    Yes, but at least we don’t consider warm weather to be abnormal and sodomy the height of cool.

  74. Shy Ted

    A bit bored today. OK, I live in Adelaide. Complete cloud cover and no wind at all but thanks to coal the lights stayed on. Went to the library, true crime section, and right next to that was Anne Summers “The Misogyny Factor”. Why not? Read it in an afternoon. It doesn’t have the depth of a Womans Weekly article nor the intellectual rigour of Mad magazine but it does provide a good insight into the mind of a true leftie. Bewildering, devoid and detached from reality nonsense. No woman can ever achieve anything, even motherhood, without a giant government department to make it happen. No woman can ever make a decision for herself unless Anne deems it to be the correct one. And John Howard apparently removed all women from the workforce while Kevin Rudd reinstated them with pay rises in his first week. Tomorrow it goes back to the library, IN the true crime section, because, as a book, it really is.

  75. Tel

    Calling UTS a “TAFE” is bit of a joke.

    It used to be a TAFE, perhaps 30 years ago or something like that. There’s still a TAFE next door.

    The science and technology museum used to be on the corner with the oddly patterned bricks. God I feel old 🙁

  76. Mike of Marion

    struth
    #2234314, posted on December 13, 2016 at 6:20 pm

    Is that correct struth

    Y’ have to kick it to put it away!!

  77. JC

    Yes, but at least we don’t consider warm weather to be abnormal and sodomy the height of cool.

    Fair and reasonable points.

  78. test pattern

    ‘This blog is now unreadable. It’s like the lunchroom at a mental asylum.’

    Late night in the Cat nursing home is the best time. Typical exchange serious discussion on whether Hitler and Churchill would’ve been the dream team to kill the Commies, Zippy suggests Mengele would’ve made the better Fuhrer, another sage throws in Heydrich and Mosley, Zulu doesn’t care as long as he gets to be fantasy hangman, Snoopy doesn’t care either so long as he gets to shoot the Red Baron down. The intellectual Right is zinging with new ideas! Zinging I say!

  79. JC

    WTF would complain in writing about this ad? WTF are these people?

    An advertisement depicting two women in skin-tight black rubber to sell tyres has been the most complained about of the year.

    The Advertising Standards Bureau received more than 400 complaints about the Ultra Tune ad with the tagline “we’re into rubber”.

    The free-to-air TV spot also comes in

    second in a ranking of the most complained about ads of all time. However the bureau ultimately dismissed all complaints about the ad which generated a furore on social media.

  80. Infidel Tiger

    GhostWhoVotes @GhostWhoVotes
    Essential Poll- Is LIB becoming more progressive or conservative:
    More progressive 14 (-13)
    More conservative 37 (+13)

    Define conservative and progressive please?

  81. Rabz

    Greens, who’ve been ritually demonizing Exxon666 for years

    I had the misfortune to hear that monstrous stick insect Bishop on JJJ news furiously handwaving about this appointment, “Oh yes, we’ve been aware of this gentleman and his work with Exxon for years”.

    Yeah, right.

  82. Bruce of Newcastle

    There’s only two places in the country to do law…. if you must. Melbourne and Sydney Uni.

    Nope, not Syd. The only possible employment for law grads would be with the Labor Party, an affiliated organization or Maccas. UniSyd is only worthwhile if you’re going to do hard STEM. It’s more difficult to emasculate engineers into lefty drones, since the vast sea of beer they consume works like a vaccine.

    I’m sad my old uni has melted down into green mush.

  83. Rabz

    Essential Poll- Is LIB becoming more progressive or conservative:
    More progressive 14 (-13)
    More conservative 37 (+13)

    They must have polled my brother repeatedly. He’s been peddling that preposterous gibberish in some recent conversations I’ve had with him (when he’s not foaming about Fatty Trump).

  84. Zippy, do you believe that whites should have more rights than non-whites?

    No. Citizens, permanent residents should generally have the same rights.

    Rights have to be seen in the context of the situation. When everything is going swimmingly then the only equality is that before the law. When a right is being abused then that has to be dealt with.

    For example take the right practice a religion. I don’t consider it an unchallengeable right to practice a “religon” which says non-members must be converted, enslaved or killed.

  85. Tel

    Apparently it got to high 30’s in Sydney today and you are all keeling over from extreme heat.

    It got a fraction past 40 at my place (measured it myself, don’t trust the climatologists). I consider that officially hot.

  86. Atoms for Peace

    I suffer from Tourettes, and he/she just slip out. Trump their ridiculous stance with an even sillier one. Who are the SJWs to judge you?

  87. Atoms for Peace

    Is that spelt ze with a silent “dick”?

  88. Boambee John

    Where is LQ Cincinnatus?

    After his post before the US election, criticising Trump for reserving his position on accepting the outcome, I have been expecting him to post criticism of the D’rats and Greens for actually challenging the outcome, in defiance of the long standing tradition that LQC told us about.

    Or is it different when they do it?

  89. Rabz

    It used to be a TAFE, perhaps 30 years ago or something like that.

    The Institute of Technology. My best mate studied econ/accounting there from 1982. The Brickfield Hill campus.

  90. JC

    OMG, the world is ending. First Trump wins and now the ATO is offline.

    The Australian Taxation Office’s online system has been taken down for two business days by a world-first glitch in its computers.

    The ATO announced its website and other online services were not working just before 9.30am AEDT on Monday.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/technology/worldfirst-glitch-takes-ato-offline/news-story/f0b0c7aa1598abcd2344f74af8b58f38

  91. Rabz

    I consider that officially hot.

    I remember Sydney’s last “hottest day evah” only too well as I ran out of beer about 4:00pm and then had to stagger up to the bottle shop and back. Lucky not to have died of dehydration over the course of that epic journey. 40 degrees and very little humidity.

  92. Boambee John

    Baldrick at 1641,

    If the Oxford students wish to have the option of not being a specific gender, I am quite happy to refer to them as “it”.

  93. Bruce of Newcastle

    JC – Your enjoyment at the discomfiture of the ATO will abruptly end when you receive a letter requiring you to resubmit your last ten tax returns because they lost them in the crash.

    Slaves have no rights.

  94. I am in favour of perpetuating my race. That would be the human race. Although sometimes I wonder if it’s worth it.

    So you are unfussed by the deliberate trashing of fertility rates?

  95. Uh oh

    Baldrick
    #2234249, posted on December 13, 2016 at 4:41 pm
    ‘He’ and ‘she’ are now ‘ze’ at Oxford:

    It’s about respecting people’s right to define themselves as neither male nor female.”

    What, as opposed to respecting peoples right to define themselves as either male or female?

  96. test pattern

    Much msm coverage of Andrew Liveris. Gottliebsen promotes his thoughts on fraccing [not fracking] but neglects to inform readers that Liveris also supports compulsory reservation of gas for use by domestic industry as a lower price.

    Liveris though, is correct that the Australian quarry mentality must change. Lithium is already changing it, and will become the hub around which a future chemical industry is built. Downstream processing of Lithium requires a number of other materials, also mined here, so it makes sense to process here rather than quarry and export each as discreet products. Not only those with Lith tenements benefit, but leaseholders with the complimentary materials for processing also rise with the tide. And the really smart investors are looking two steps ahead to the chemicals hub that will ensue. GS predicts a trebling of Lith price by 2020. I don’t. As more product comes on the market, the value of known reserves decreases. Increase in demand and extension of reserves should compensate, but I doubt the price of stock will boom. Those who got in early have made their money. eg Minres recently sold and walked away with some 300x their initial investment. That leaves room for Reed Res, a Kal father and son show, to increase their holding. And if Liveris’ advice ie compulsory gas reservation is implemented here, with the IPA screaming betrayal, downstream processing and Chem industry hubs in WA and the NT get a leg up. Glad I got in early.

  97. Delta A

    It doesn’t have the depth of a Womans Weekly article nor the intellectual rigour of Mad magazine but it does provide a good insight into the mind of a true leftie.

    Kudos, Shy Ted.

  98. calli

    The Brickfield Hill campus.

    Anthony Hordens Building?

  99. test pattern

    ‘I am in favour of perpetuating my race’

    White women are ugly. I hope Musk doesn’t send any to colonise Mars. I’ll have to send him an email.

  100. Geriatric Mayfly

    Forward thinking people have a motorised Esky to get them to the pub and back on days of Dreadful Heat, Rabz.

  101. miltonf

    Sydney Technical College–>University of Technology–>UNSW

    Sydney Technical College–>NSW Institute of Technology (1965)–>UTS (dawkins Uni)

    I thinks that’s the lineage.

  102. JC

    Slaves have no rights.

    I had evidence of that today. I lent my father’s SUV to the family business when I was away overseas and someone picked up two speeding fines on the same day using the same freeway.

    Of course, nobody remembered who was driving the freaking thing… conveniently.

    I ticked the “dunno who was driving ” box.

    Civic Compliance demanded a stat dec from me which I furnished requesting several things like running a log book for drivers. My Dad is in a nursing home.

    Today I got a letter demanding the cash, so I called them.

    They offered no comfort , even though I had supplied all they requested.

    So fuck them, I’m going to court. I’ll hire a lawyer and then hit them for legal costs if I can, but I’m not paying this fine.

  103. JC

    White women are ugly.

    Really?
    Testes,
    You’re saying this because you’ve found it impossible picking one up?

  104. miltonf

    The Brickfield Hill campus.

    Anthony Hordens Building?

    Yep famous for cockroaches.

  105. .

    Wipe the floor with the fuckers.

  106. Mother Lode

    UTS used to be the Institute of Technology. It was more like a junior Uni.

    They may well have stood in the tower looking wistfully down Broadway to Sydney Uni with envy.

    I believe UNSW was a TAFE (or Technical College as thems was called in olden days).

  107. miltonf

    Used to be many Institutes of technology in Melbourne.

  108. JC

    Wipe the floor with the fuckers.

    I intend to, Dot. I called the lawyer today and told him we’re going to court.

  109. Myrddin Seren

    The Brickfield Hill campus.

    Anthony Hordens Building?

    The same. An ancient airless death trap with wooden fire stairs.

    If the place ever went up scores would have died.

    We businessie types had to share the death trap with the Communications faulty students.

    Comms by name and Commos by nature – it was an unhappy association made worse by a toxic building.

  110. calli

    There were a few other leases for the Institute of Technology in the buildings on the perimeter – Liverpool, George and Goulburn Streets. The Tank Stream flows below. Like Gandalf in the Mines of Moria, I’ve been in the deepest dungeon and the highest tower.

    All gone now.

  111. Anne

    Fisky
    #2234295, posted on December 13, 2016 at 5:48 pm
    Zippy, do you believe that whites should have more rights than non-whites?

    Stop being stupid, Fisky.

    No, but a little gratitude would not be out of line.

    Sorry Zip, I know that wasn’t addressed to me but I get annoyed when superior types try to push the Racism angle. It’s so damn cheap.

  112. DrBeauGan

    I want to be happy and it’s impossible to be happy if one part of you despises the rest of you for being a shit.

    I think this ought to be taught in schools.

  113. Anne

    Mother Lode
    #2234296, posted on December 13, 2016 at 5:53 pm

    You’re very quick, egg_.

    And there was me thinking they called him ‘3-minute egg’ because…oh, it doesn’t matter.

    No Mother, Egg is very soft hearted. 🙂

  114. test pattern

    While in Indonesia recently I stayed with a friend, now retired, when the news broke of Castro’s death and the Aust media focused on the Cuban missile crisis. My friend reminded me that JFK, just weeks earlier, had faced another countdown to war, and had backed down, unwilling to confront the Soviets.

    UNTEA was commissioned on Oct 1 1962 just weeks before the Cuban crisis. Jakarta’s deadline to reclaim West Papua from the Netherlands had been set at August 17th. To that end they were given an additional six Whiskey Class subs by the Soviets, bringing Jakarta’s Whiskey Class fleet to 12. The subs were crewed by Russians, who wore Indonesian uniforms. They shadowed the Dutch fleet based at Biak and had been instructed to prepare to attack. They were stood down just minutes before the Dutch caved and signed the handover. The Dutch had been hoping Australia and the US would come to their aid. Menzies wanted to push the US into war, JFK wouldnt buy it, the 12 Russian subs won it for Jakarta.

    And Australian media thought it was more important to write about the Buena Vista Social Club than this pivotal period in Australian history.

  115. Bruce of Newcastle

    Downstream processing of Lithium requires a number of other materials, also mined here, so it makes sense to process here rather than quarry and export each as discreet products.

    TP – Nope.

    Spodumene processing requires lots of chemicals and produces lots of mushy toxic waste. No one is going to process it here, instead they’ll export concentrates to the Chinese, until the market collapses due to the climate scam imploding. Then it’ll go back to being a niche product for the electronic device market.

    I happen to be an expert at such processing technologies. It won’t happen here, the green tape will be insurmountable and the cost structure is not conducive.

    I’ve also been keeping an eye on lithium-related announcements on the ASX. It turns out there’re vast amounts of hard rock lithium ore – once miners started to look for it. The deposits in the Pilbara are immense. So any price spike will be temporary until enough capacity comes onto the market for the price to drop back to the lowest cost of production.

  116. DrBeauGan

    So you are unfussed by the deliberate trashing of fertility rates?

    Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by stupidity.

  117. Apparently it got to high 30’s in Sydney today and you are all keeling over from extreme heat.

    Faggots.

    You really are the worst people on earth bar Melburnians.

    When I was a kid, high thirties was paradise. Oh, how I wish it would get that low in December. We played test cricket (backyard) and run around all day without water. Good times!

  118. Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by stupidity.

    Beau, Malthusians always stop short of suggesting “solutions” to overpopulation. They still believe 1 billion is too many.

  119. Roger

    I’m surprised this isn’t all over the ABC. I note he’s Christian.

    Did see a report on the ABC, arma.

    Quite a story.

  120. test pattern

    ‘…impossible picking one up?’

    Impossible, just impossible to force myself in that direction. Good observation Hutchie.

    Dunno exactly when or how the seed was sown, but I know when I first knew. I was with a friend who had the Onslow servo, when we saw this dropdead gorgeous stud sauntering lithely down the road before us, flanked by unworthies. Pretty in pink, like Manfred Mann’s Flamingo, and my mate himself from an old Onslow family just couldn’t believe he hadn’t seen her before – it was his country and he should’ve known all the best lookers. We both wanted to be first to jump here, and, for the first time in my short and callow years, I felt rivalry, and jealousy. And I knew – T.Pattern, this is your life.

    ’cause her hair glows like the sun and her eyes can light the sky’

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Flamingo

  121. Marine Le Pen on Trump

    What else do you have in common with the President-elect?

    We have both viewed with sympathy the sovereign decision of the British to leave the European Union and regain their sovereignty, a prerequisite for their prosperity and preservation of their identity ; We are both fighting the treaties aggravating free trade and wild globalization, in the mutual interest of our respective nations.

    Identity is the new dividing line. The left want to play identity politics then they will come to a brutal end in their attempt to erase our ethnic, racial and national identities.

  122. JC

    You know there’s potentially big money to be made in recapping these Italian banks.

    UniCredit SpA, Italy’s biggest bank, plans to raise 13 billion euros ($13.8 billion) in a rights offer, sell off bad loans and slash costs in its deepest overhaul to boost capital levels and profitability.

    The bank is targeting 4.7 billion euros of net profit in 2019 with a return on tangible equity above 9 percent, the Milan-based company said in a statement on Tuesday. As part of the three-year strategy, the bank plans to shed an additional 6,500 jobs, bringing the total to 14,000, as it aims for 1.7 billion euros of annual cost savings.

    It’s worth a shot, I reckon.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-13/unicredit-plans-13-8-billion-rights-offer-to-bolster-capital

  123. egg_

    And there was me thinking they called him ‘3-minute egg’

    Oi – I resemble that remark!
    (Could be a slow boiler).

  124. Tel

    Identity is the new dividing line. The left want to play identity politics then they will come to a brutal end in their attempt to erase our ethnic, racial and national identities.

    The long term direction if we all play identity politics is we end up like the Middle East. No one gives an inch to anyone because if you try to compromise they just take more.

    And yeah, for what it’s worth the left were going it first… and if one group starts doing it, the others kind of have to out of self defense.

  125. Mother Lode

    It’s about respecting people’s right to define themselves as neither male nor female.”

    Leaving aside for the moment the dubious claim of what things are a matter of decision (a fat man deciding he is thin nevertheless remains – and the degree to which he insists he is thin is the degree to which he is unwell) there is the fact that when someone else decides he will be referred to as a bowl of petunias I must think of him that way.

    Some other person on the victim hierarchy has more of a claim to my way of thinking than I do.

    Generally I avoid Orwell references because they are overdone and usually poorly done, but being asked to look at a Fat aging biker in a skirt, but see a petite lissom flower of feminine beauty and grace, would be very much like Winston Smith being told to see five fingers.

  126. Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by stupidity.

    Agree. And I thought as much but when you see Gillard cancelling the baby bonus when fertility nearly reurned to replacement from Howard’s efforts, then started trending down, this is not stupidity, this is deliberate. These clowns spend like tomorrow is their last day, this was not a budget saving measure, they would have been well aware of what was going on.

    They clearly have an unstated policy of depopulation and replacement.

  127. Bruce of Newcastle

    Jakarta’s deadline to reclaim West Papua from the Netherlands had been set at August 17th.

    TP – That’s a good example of the window of opportunity view of history. There was such a window in the sixties (eg Tibet), but it pretty much closed in the seventies. So Indo was able to take Western Papua but hit a wall with East Timor when the Left adopted Xanana as their own (which he is of course, being a Marxist).

    We’ve come to another political window of opportunity in the last few years with Chinese and Russian imperialism and some realignment of Sykes-Picot. It’ll be interesting how far it goes – I suspect Trump will squish it.

  128. Snoopy

    Great story about West Papua oldsalt. Unfortunately you missed the best bit. Less than three years later the Indons slaughtered over 100k commos.

    Good times.

  129. egg_

    Nigella’s dangling her fun tea bags in milk tonight.

  130. DrBeauGan

    Your ‘identity’ seems to be all about what gang you hang out with. Mine doesn’t. I’m just me.

    I’m strongly in favour of maintaining the Western intellectual tradition however. I like it and believe it’s done enormous good for the entire human species, and a lot of other species too. So I’m definitely not a multiculturalist. I’m bothered about ethnicity only to the extent that it correlates with an inferior culture, i.e. any that isn’t mine.

  131. Andrew

    Apparently it got to high 30’s in Sydney today and you are all keeling over from extreme heat.

    Faggots.

    You really are the worst people on earth bar Melburnians.

    Bitch, please! Adelaideans??

  132. Rev. Archibald

    Watching that Nigella bird making eyes at the camera and playing with food during an explosion in an adjective factory.
    Who is the audience for this shit?

  133. egg_

    Calling UTS a “TAFE” is bit of a joke.

    It used to be a TAFE, perhaps 30 years ago or something like that. There’s still a TAFE next door.

    The science and technology museum used to be on the corner with the oddly patterned bricks. God I feel old 🙁

    +1

    IIRC the original Sydney Institute of Technology grew out of The Sydney Institute of TAFE, post credentialism.

  134. Makka

    Unfortunately you missed the best bit. Less than three years later the Indons slaughtered over 100k commos.

    They weren’t all commos, Snoopy. Lot’s of convenient get evens , debt cancellations and outright confiscation went on.

  135. .

    I’m with the Dr.

    Let competition happen and people will choose the best culture, if the government doesn’t mess up the incentives.

  136. egg_

    Who is the audience for this shit?

    Straight males, presumably.

  137. Boambee John

    test pattern at 1928,

    That is discrete, not discreet, and complementary, not complimentary.

    No problem.

  138. Boambee John

    test pattern at 1930,

    “White women are ugly” is a very racist comment, involving rather too much ethnic stereotyping!

  139. Rev. Archibald

    Short sighted ones presumably.
    Get your eyes checked Egg.
    Ho Ho Ho.
    She just said: “Fish taco”.
    Yuck.

  140. Makka

    Let competition happen and people will choose the best culture,

    Because we are all the same, open borders allows the free movement of people and we get on together enormously, right dotty?

  141. Mother Lode

    Apparently it got to high 30’s in Sydney today and you are all keeling over from extreme heat.

    Faggots.

    Does it make difference that we can count higher in Sydney due to better education. Our high 30’s goes up to 39.

    In Safe Schools Victoria they are saying “It has been a fucki fisting hot day. Some dickhe strap-on-head was being a real cun tuck at the beach…

  142. Boambee John

    Anne at 1942,

    Oops, scan past my comment to test pattern!

  143. egg_

    She just said: “Fish taco”.

    Glad to see you’re enjoying the show (Arky/Michael) Rev.
    Next week, she might be basting her clam?

  144. Snoopy

    Maybe so Makka, but they certainly shut down the PKI.

  145. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bitch, please! Adelaideans??

    Currently they are running on roughly 50:50 wind and gas. Which figures. Sadly Nem Watch doesn’t say how much electrickery is travelling along the interconnectors, but it’s pretty clear SA has enough wind today to get by.

    On the other hand their wholesale price was $300/MWh on Monday evening, then $10/MWh during Tuesday morning before rising to $80/MWh now (click on the SA button at the link). How you run a state with such insane price swings beats me.

  146. Fisky

    Stop being stupid, Fisky.

    No, but a little gratitude would not be out of line.

    Why would I be gracious to Zippy? He’s a white supremacist, and I think if his views were applied to the country as a whole, the outcome would be catastrophic.

  147. Makka

    Snoopy, tens of thousands of innocent Chinese Indonesians were slaughtered (many Christian) , businesses looted or confiscated, land and wealth looted from them.

  148. .

    Makka
    #2234422, posted on December 13, 2016 at 8:22 pm
    Let competition happen and people will choose the best culture,

    Because we are all the same, open borders allows the free movement of people and we get on together enormously, right dotty?

    No because Makka I respect your inviolable individual sovereignty and expect you to choose what is best for you and your family.

  149. wivenhoe

    How you run a state with such insane price swings beats me.

    It is simple, Bruce, you charge it out at $1k/MWh, and use the rest for overseas junkets.

  150. Bruce of Newcastle

    tens of thousands of innocent Chinese Indonesians were slaughtered

    Yep, Ahok, who is the Chinese Christian governor of Jakarta is currently having his own “year of living dangerously”.

    Jakarta’s Governor Ahok hears blasphemy indictment as court guarded by hundreds of police

    How can you blaspheme a deity who doesn’t exist?

  151. Snoopy

    Makka, oldsalt was gloating how Sukarno and his commo backers put it over the US and Australia. It was a very short-lived win. Yes, it was very unfortunate that innocents died. But better that than a communist Indonesia. It was a very close run thing.

  152. Makka

    No because Makka I respect your inviolable individual sovereignty and expect you to choose what is best for you and your family.

    What’s best for me and my family is a system of stringently imposed border protection and migration control that keeps country shoppers and other un-vetted potential crims the fk out of here. Not some quaint libertarian fantasy relying on goodwill and common sense.

    This of course runs completely counter to your Utopia of people moving freely across borders expressing their sovereign right to enter my country as they please.

  153. Snoopy

    A lot of sob sobbing on the ABC about the performance of Australian school students. No mention of the relative performance of boys and girls, though. I wonder why that is?

  154. Snoopy

    Relax Macca, the ALP amendment regulation setting the LDP’s immigration fee at one peppercorn will keep the riff-raff out.

  155. Rev. Archibald

    This of course runs completely counter to your Utopia of people moving freely across borders expressing their sovereign right to enter my country as they please.

    ..
    Where did you get the ridiculous idea it is your country?
    Don’t be silly.
    You own none of it. Sure you may have a title to use the surface of a parcel of land, but you can’t build anything on it without their permission, and you must pay rates in perpetuity.
    They only let you think it is your country when they need you. That is if they require your labour or sacrifice.
    If a situation arises where they again need you they will instantaneously flip the switch to “patriotism”.
    Until then it’s all international obligations and and human rights and a global village.

  156. Fisky

    Until then it’s all international obligations and and human rights and a global village.

    Sounds like a libertopia!

  157. Makka

    “Where did you get the ridiculous idea it is your country?”

    That’s right Rev. Let anyone in who wears a smile and promises to be a good boy/girl. Stop being a fkwit like dotty.

  158. Fisky

    I think that was a parody, Makka.

  159. Rabz

    a global village

    With no shortage of idiots.

  160. egg_

    The college continued to operate, eventually becoming part of the New South Wales Technical and Further Education (TAFE) system. It became known as Ultimo College, due to its location. This then became part of the Sydney Institute of Technology, which was later renamed Sydney Institute.

  161. Tel

    Jakarta’s Governor Ahok hears blasphemy indictment as court guarded by hundreds of police

    Those guys were mostly sane until the Saudis got to them and stirred them all up with this Wahhabi stuff. There’s your problem.

  162. Leigh Lowe

    test pattern
    #2234379, posted on December 13, 2016 at 7:30 pm

    White women are ugly.

    I would expect nothing less from someone who has an obvious preference for dusky little Asian boys.

  163. Tom

    The hell is wrong with Paul Murray? Is a jabbering Liars narrative salesman like Nicholas Reece the only lefty on Their Sky’s roster? I would love to have listened to Peta Credlin, but not with that little twerp interrupting.

  164. Makka

    Just putting some perspective into the discussion, Snoopy. testpattern was having his usual snark at the whitefella, if you hadn’t noticed.

  165. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspreeklike

    The Aboriginal teenager at the centre of the Northern Territory’s royal commission into juvenile justice was put on a destructive “merry go round” of reoffending by the system that failed him, his longtime caseworker says.

    Footage of Dylan Voller being tear-gassed, placed in a spit-hood and shackled to a restraint chair while in custody prompted the royal commission.

    Antoinette Carroll, Voller’s youth justice advocate for seven years, told the inquiry the 19-year-old was “set up to fail” by the Territory’s broken child protection and detention system.

    He has a long criminal history and has been in and out of youth detention since he was 11.

    Ms Carroll broke down when she described visiting Voller at age 13 while he spent Christmas alone at residential rehabilitation facility Aranda House in Alice Springs.

    From the Oz. Now Vollers is Aboriginal? Seems like the race card is being played?

  166. custard

    Watching PM live too and Credlin is wonderful.

    Peta for PM.

  167. jupes

    Let competition happen and people will choose the best culture, if the government doesn’t mess up the incentives.

    LOL, the open-borders loon is off his meds again.

    Stupidest comment on the Cat today (and that includes srr’s ramblings).

  168. hzhousewife

    Tom, PM has to give in to the prevailing political correctnes of the times,and give the “other” side a voice…
    do as I do, go the the toot when dear Nicolas speaks, then pay attention when he stops.

  169. jupes

    Those guys were mostly sane until the Saudis got to them and stirred them all up with this Wahhabi stuff. There’s your problem.

    Yeah nah.

    There are plenty of violent Muslims in Indon without the toxic influence of the Saudis. The civil war in Aceh started 40 years ago. The Acehnese won that war and now have strict Sharia Law. Dunno that the Saudis have any influence on those arseholes.

  170. JC

    Bruce

    One of the best things about summer is zapping flies etc. with Mortein. This got me wondering why has Mortein been around for yonks but flies etc haven’t developed resistance. Several years ago, that horrible poisonous cherub… Tim Lambert……started a Oz blog argument against the use of DDT and one of the arguments he was using was that mosquitoes had developed a resistance to DDT thereby becoming ineffective because of over use.

    If mozzies developed resistance, why not other insects to Mortein, which has been in use forever and also overused.

  171. Tel

    Your ‘identity’ seems to be all about what gang you hang out with. Mine doesn’t. I’m just me.

    That works just fine when there’s a clear set of rules and everyone plays by the rules. Problem is when it comes to pushey shovey knifey spoony you are going be the loser because you ain’t got a gang.

    So in order to have a working system where individuals can be individual, you have to very quickly undermine anyone who is putting a gang together and taking advantage of brute force. Unfortunately we haven’t been doing that.

  172. .

    Sure, people will voluntarily choose the shittiest culture, every Arab peon has 50k laying around and no businesses ever rely on goodwill for relationship marketing or firm value.

  173. brennan

    So fuck them, I’m going to court. I’ll hire a lawyer and then hit them for legal costs if I can, but I’m not paying this fine.

    JC, try Aussie Speeding Fines.
    I have a couple of friends who’ve represented themselves by using the info in the book they sell and won. I haven’t needed to yet, but I think I’ll give it a try first. However, I’m probably not as well off as you so a lawyer is a large expense in my household budget.

  174. Rev. Archibald

    DDT is a chemical.
    Mortein is a brand name.
    If bugs did develop resistance to it they would change the formula.
    As for what green arses say about DDT, who gives a shit.

  175. Tator

    Has anyone seen this report yet???LINK It is a big I TOLD YOU SO by Professor Tony Makin to all those lefties who state it was Rudds stimulus that saved us from the GFC.

  176. JC

    Thanks Brennan.

    I’ll read it through.

  177. hzhousewife

    P
    from some time ago

    Thank you P, for that information. I recall hearing Ann Deveson’s radio shows about her son and her advocacy for schizophrenia care. Reading her daughter’s story confirms for me that Ann Devedson was a truly caring parent.

  178. JC

    DDT is a chemical.
    Mortein is a brand name.
    If bugs did develop resistance to it they would change the formula.

    I’m aware it’s a chemical and not just a empty can with the name emblazoned on it. DDT is also a chemical. I’m just trying to figure out

    1. Is it true DDT resistance developed because of overuse, as leftwingers always, always lie.
    2. If so why didn’t that happen with Mortein.
    3. Why couldn’t the formula for DDT also be changed?

  179. Driftforge

    Diethyl dimethyl dichloride. If you change the formula, its inherently no longer ‘DDT’. DDT is an acronym.

    Mortein is a trade name.

  180. Driftforge

    As to Mortein, I seem to recall a couple of instances of ‘New Improved Formula’.

  181. Your ‘identity’ seems to be all about what gang you hang out with. Mine doesn’t. I’m just me.

    I’m strongly in favour of maintaining the Western intellectual tradition however. I like it and believe it’s done enormous good for the entire human species, and a lot of other species too. So I’m definitely not a multiculturalist. I’m bothered about ethnicity only to the extent that it correlates with an inferior culture, i.e. any that isn’t mine.

    Interestingly worded to sidestep the racism tag. I still maintain that culture and ethnicity/race are mostly inseparable.

    I actually go to great pains to keep anything much about my identity anonymous since having been on the receiving end of leftist digital lynch mob. So I am not sure how you can determine too much about my personal identity. I like my race, ethnicity, culture, parents culture even if I don’t live in it.

    Just because one likes something doesn’t necessarily imply they have to hate the rest. But I do detest islam and egalitarianism.

    Like it or not the world is splitting along the lines drawn up by the left/alt-right. Identity based on reality vs imagination based identity. internationalism vs nationalism. beneficial trade vs free trade. controlled migration.

    The nationalism, ethnicity, racial stuff is definitely fraught with danger (and certainly triggers emotional reactions) but the issue is now survival.

  182. Rev. Archibald

    DDT is a chemical.
    Mortein is a brand name not a chemical.
    It is mainly synthetic pyretheroids.
    They can change the chemical composition of it if bugs get resistant to it.
    Which they do.

  183. JC

    Drift

    FFS, I know Mortein is a trade name. Lets all try and get over this hurdle.

    Mortein kills insects

    DDT kills insects

    Why was there supposed to be resistance built with DDT and not with “Mortein” as I’m sure Mortein has been overused and bugs have managed to escape the effects of the nerve agent.

  184. JC

    DDT is a chemical.
    Mortein is a brand name not a chemical.
    It is mainly synthetic pyretheroids.
    They can change the chemical composition of it if bugs get resistant to it.
    Which they do.

    Why can’t you twig the composition of DDT though?

  185. Let competition happen and people will choose the best culture, if the government doesn’t mess up the incentives.

    The underlying assumption is that people are all equally worthy. This fallacy is based on

    “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.”

    which worked fine when you were importing effectively the same type of people: Europeans looking for a better life.

    The reality is that not all people are equally worthy. It’s time to filter.

  186. Rev. Archibald

    Because then it isn’t DDT anymore.

  187. JC

    They can change the chemical composition of it if bugs get resistant to it.
    Which they d

    Oh Okay, DDT is supposed to work over time after it’s sprayed on walls etc. whereas Mortein has to be sprayed directly at the critter. In other words it’s an entirely different application. Got it.

  188. JC

    Because then it isn’t DDT anymore.

    It can’t be changed at all? I mean, you have different grades of petrol, which all do the same thing, although the potency varies.

  189. Makka

    Sure, people will voluntarily choose the shittiest culture, every Arab peon has 50k laying around and no businesses ever rely on goodwill for relationship marketing or firm value.

    Yes , our border security is far better off in the hands of open borders loonies like you.

  190. JC

    DDT has a formula.

    DDT is a colorless, crystalline, tasteless and almost odorless organochlorine known for its insecticidal properties and environmental impacts. Wikipedia
    Formula: C14H9Cl5
    IUPAC ID: 1,1,1-trichloro-2,2-bis(4-chlorophenyl)ethane
    Molar mass: 354.49 g/mol

    Melting point: 108.5 °C
    Boiling point: 260 °C
    Density: 990 kg/m³

  191. Leigh Lowe

    WRT Mortein.
    Insects can’t develop immunity to arsenic.

  192. Leigh Lowe

    Mortein is not DDT …

  193. . #2234416, posted on December 13, 2016 at 8:15 pm

    I’m with the Dr.

    Let competition happen and people will choose the best culture, if the government doesn’t mess up the incentives.

    Dot, have you ever lived for an extended period of time within another culture?

  194. Rev. Archibald

    Petrol is more like the a mortein than the DDT.
    Petrol is made up of a lot of different chemicals called hydrocarbons.
    The ones that have eight carbons are called octanes.
    The more octaves the higher the rating of the petrol.
    So you can change the chemicals in petrol. It is still petrol.
    You can change the chemicals in a Mortein, it is still a Mortein.
    But DDT is a chemical. It has a unique molecule.

  195. JC

    WRT Mortein.
    Insects can’t develop immunity to arsenic.

    Mortein has arsenic? Wow! No wonder zapping the nasty little fuckers is basically a death sentence. In the current state of the modern PC world, they the only things that aren’t protected by the Animal Rights loons.

  196. Driftforge

    JC, its kind of like asking whether you can tweak the formula for CO2 and it still be CO2.

    You can’t change it because DDT is the formula.

  197. JC

    But DDT is a chemical. It has a unique molecule.

    Gotcha.

  198. Who is the audience for this shit?

    Red blooded males? There’s drugs for tour unmanliness.

  199. Rev. Archibald

    Sorry, illiterate post.
    Petrol is more like Mortein than DDT.
    Petrol is made up of a lot of different chemicals called hydrocarbons.
    The ones that have eight carbons are called octanes.
    The more octane, the higher the rating of the petrol.
    So you can change the chemicals in petrol. It is still petrol.
    You can change the chemicals in Mortein, it is still Mortein.
    But DDT is a chemical. Not a combination of chemicals. It has a unique molecule.
    Change the molecule’s formula it is no longer DDT.

  200. JC

    You can’t change it because DDT is the formula.

    I get that, so there’s nothing you can do, like add something else to disguise its uniqueness and therefore resistance.

  201. .

    Dot, have you ever lived for an extended period of time within another culture?

    No, but what is your point? Please note what I said earlier.

    “If the government doesn’t screw up the incentives”

    Pretty tough if the government is putting shit like Tomorrow’s Pioneer’s on the TV or otherwise giving compensation to families of suicide bombers.

  202. Roger

    I still maintain that culture and ethnicity/race are mostly inseparable.

    The forward slash indicates we are making progress.

  203. Rev. Archibald

    I get that, so there’s nothing you can do, like add something else to disguise its uniqueness and therefore resistance.

    ..
    Yes. Then you will have invented a new chemical that may or may not kill bugs. It may or may not kill people.
    But it wouldn’t be DDT.

  204. JC

    Chemical:

    a distinct compound or substance, especially one which has been artificially prepared or purified.

    I guess that what makes it DDT.

    Can you buy it in Oz on the black market? Wifey is frightened stiff by spiders. She goes into a mad panic because when she was little, her brothers used to chase her with them to make her scream. (wish i had a sister)

    I told her to go see a shrink about it who specializes in phobias. Every year she has the outside of the house sprayed but I reckon its useless. DDT would work better I reckon.

  205. john constantine

    DDT is a raw ingredient, overuse selects for natural survivors in the target population, which then breed like crazy as all their competition is wiped out.

    Broadacre price effective use for accurate rates of applied chemical is a lot different to a hysterical spiderphobic wymynsys emptying the entire can of Mortein at one mini-shelob, until it turns white and the legs stop quivering because it has drowned in the carrier fluid.

    All populations have resistant mutants to things that kill almost everything else, but they are miniscule in number because they usually lack the vigor of the majority of the baseline population. [until everybody else dies, then the meek inherit the earth.]

  206. Driftforge

    Let competition happen and people will choose the best culture, if the government doesn’t mess up the incentives.

    No, they wont. They will choose, again and again, bit by bit, less and less restrictions because they can.

    History bears this out repeatedly.

    And restrictions are what makes culture valuable to a people.

  207. egg_

    To gauge a chemical’s potential against insects, the Orlando researchers filled a sleeve with lice and a candidate insecticide, slipped the sleeve over a subject’s arm, and taped it down at both ends. After twenty-four hours, the dead lice were removed and fresh lice were added. A single application of DDT turned out to kill lice for a month, almost four times longer than the next-best insecticide.

  208. FFS, Zippy, give it up. You’re ascribing absolutes to uncertainties. Give it away and concentrate on good and bad. You’re trying to be the next srr, and succeeding.

  209. .

    And restrictions are what makes culture valuable to a people.

    …anything else? You know, like creativity, intellectual freedom or artistic and commercial freedom?

    Okay, you must be referring to the government.

  210. duncanm

    Just a quick reminder about Angelic Voller; ntnews

    A TERRITORY boy who tried to run over a cop and instigated the gang robbery that saw a young man bashed unconscious in a hospital carpark has been told his age could not excuse the “disturbing” crimes.

    The NT Supreme Court heard Dylan Voller, 16, was drunk and high on the drug “ice” when he and two co-offenders went on a 24-hour crime spree, attacking two men and a police officer.

    Justice Peter Barr said the young man had been found guilty of more than 50 offences, including violence, in the past five years.

    “The community condemns unprovoked group violence against innocent victims,” he told Voller.

    “You have not responded to the leniency given by the court (in the past).”
    …etc

  211. JC

    A single application of DDT turned out to kill lice for a month, almost four times longer than the next-best insecticide.

    A miracle substance in other words. A miracle substance that the Green left had banned because….. it’s a chemical that kills mosquitoes. The Green Left is responsi9ble for millions over millions of human deaths and misery as a result of malaria….. but look over there, gerbil warming, which in 2100 could kill 3 people.

  212. JC

    Small edit suggestion

    The Beer Whisperer
    #2234499, posted on December 13, 2016 at 10:28 pm

    FFS, Zippy, give it up. You’re ascribing absolutes to uncertainties. Give it away and concentrate on good and bad. You’re trying to be the next srr, and succeeded.

    It’s a version of pizzagate.

  213. Makka

    Dot, have you ever lived for an extended period of time within another culture?

    No, but what is your point? Please note what I said earlier.

    In other words, clueless.

  214. JC

    You’re clueless Makka. Totally.

  215. Leigh Lowe

    I have no actual evidence that Mortein contains arsenic.
    But it probably does.
    I’ll check Facebook and advise.

  216. john constantine

    For spraying around the house, termite contractors use chlorpyifos, which is cheap as chips in big containers.

    Safer, but not for direct spraying on plants, pets or partners is Sumiguard, esfenvalerate.

    Very effective.

  217. Driftforge

    …anything else? You know, like creativity, intellectual freedom or artistic and commercial freedom?

    Okay, you must be referring to the government.

    No, just culture here. But see, if you have a people who would never abuse children, the law against such is there simply to keep it that way. But that’s a cultural restriction.

    If you have a cultural restriction that says those who do not work do not eat, you don’t need a welfare state. Sure, you can create one by interference – we did – but you don’t need one.

    But as soon as you allow people to choose what restrictions they face, these things fall by the way. It sounds good to provide for those who do not provide enough for themselves. Hell, these days ‘progress’ has gone so far that there are people putting out the notion that child molesters are people too and aren’t all that bad.

    The ‘mandate of heaven’ is ever and always a better option than the ‘will of the people’.

  218. JC

    Mortein’s slogan is “More smart, more safe, Mortein.” The word “Mortein” is a combination of the French word “mort” (dead) and the German word “ein” (one).

    Huh, creative name… dead one.

  219. Makka

    Fuck off JC , stick to your worthless predictions. Tell us again about the great Trump Depression, lol.

  220. OneWorldGovernment

    The ‘alt – right’ crap has these so called folk being identified with German Socialism Which the turd bergaller is still carrying on from her Stasi east German day’s. And the greatest mate is the Kenyan.

    I want to be identified with the alt-left.

  221. JC

    Calm down Makka.

    I posted the comment to get a rise out of you and of course I did.

    Just having fun.

  222. Rev. Archibald

    I have no actual evidence that Mortein contains arsenic.

    ..
    No but treated pine does.
    Don’t lick the fence.

  223. Fisky

    UK Labour leader’s brother retweeted this. He also agrees with the Hillary body double theory!

    https://twitter.com/hempoilcures/status/808591730035585028

  224. Fisky

    There is no question at all that Hillary has a J-wish body double. In fact, I still wonder if Hillary died on 9/11.

  225. egg_

    A miracle substance in other words. A miracle substance that the Green left had banned because….. it’s a chemical that kills mosquitoes. The Green Left is responsi9ble for millions over millions of human deaths and misery as a result of malaria…..

    SBS? showed a doco a few years ago wherein WHO-claimed ‘DDT resistant’ mosquitoes in Africa was disputed by a local Scientist who said that the mosquitoes only survived at elevations above the river valley, where DDT wasn’t present – so Green Malthusian B.S.

  226. rickw

    Let competition happen and people will choose the best culture, if the government doesn’t mess up the incentives.

    This is a one sided arrangement, to be fair you must allow those within a culture an unfettered right to defend it:

    Muzzo’s may choose to migrate to Australia, and Australians may chose to gun them down at the border because the have proven themselves to be particularly crappy immigrants.

    Sound fair?

  227. Makka

    Calm as a cucumber , JC. The lol gives it away, you know.

  228. Fisky

    I can’t believe how close the US came to electing a J-wish body double over Trump. Totally unqualified!

  229. Fisky

    I bet you they will announce Hillary’s death a little after Trump’s inauguration. She’s already dead, but they’re sitting on the announcement for now.

  230. Makka

    Fisky,
    Why are you running with this? Are you sure it isn’t spoiling your other (good) works?

  231. Fisky

    I think theJ-wish body double angle is stretching it a bit. But there is no doubt at all about the body double.

  232. JC

    Fisky

    How did she die in 911. Was she in the buildings, or in a plane?

  233. I still maintain that culture and ethnicity/race are mostly inseparable.

    The forward slash indicates we are making progress.

    towards what? transcending race/nationality/ethnicity/phenotype/genotype to a human culture?

    What exactly are the customs and traditions of human culture?

    Sounds suspiciously like a globalist agenda.

  234. Fisky

    How did she die in 911. Was she in the buildings, or in a plane?

    No, she died on 9/11 this year at the New York memorial. It was pretty obvious that her body was completely lifeless when they dragged her into the van.

  235. Roger

    towards what? transcending race/nationality/ethnicity/phenotype/genotype to a human culture?

    Or perhaps we aren’t making progress.

    Invincible ignorance on display.

  236. JC

    No, she died on 9/11 this year at the New York memorial.

    Oh got it. I must admit she looked like she’d died. Very low energy person at the time.

    So your theory is that she died and a double took over from there? That’s a theory I guess.

  237. Fisky

    That video I posted suggests Hillary was actually a hologram at some events. Not even a body double!

  238. JC

    Fisky

    Are you drinking, snorting or injecting at the moment?

  239. Fisky

    So here’s what happened. Hillary died on her feet and had to be dragged into a van on 9/11 (2016). After that, she was replaced by at least one body double, possibly two. And there is even a CGI Hillary who gave speeches at some of her rallies. They had a hologram up on stage!

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