Have we learned anything yet about the Canberra arsonist?

Just a follow up on a previous query: Do we know anything yet about the Canberra arsonist?. I’ve been somewhat distracted from the news since Christmas but just wondering if we know who it was and why it was done?

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68 Responses to Have we learned anything yet about the Canberra arsonist?

  1. Leo G

    The ACT’s special outlaw motorcycle gang police taskforce is investigating a suspicious fire that gutted a Tuggeranong tattoo parlour early one Friday morning last October.
    Suspicious?

  2. BrettW

    Traffic Branch are still investigating why the driver left the scene of the accident.

  3. A Lurker

    Steve, you’ll find all the information you need in the second bottom drawer of the following filing cabinet…

    “But the plans were on display…”
    “On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”
    “That’s the display department.”
    “With a flashlight.”
    “Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”
    “So had the stairs.”
    “But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?”
    “Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”

  4. Sparkx

    This really is looking like a cover-up. Nothing in the news even about the state of the van driver. No hard-nose journalist on the case. (oops, I forgot we’re talking about Canberra). Someone is obviously trying to keep this all under wraps. Smelly.

  5. Fred

    Please disperse, nothing to see here.

  6. And Another Thing

    Decades ago, if a whack job did something, even if it was on front pages all over the country, the perp would be quietly locked in a secure ward somewhere and never heard from again. Canberra is a sort of country town. Someone unsound enough to use gas bottles and then walk kilometres while critically injured could be unhinged enough to be incapable of, ahem, helping the wallopers with their inquiries.

  7. Squirrel

    When someone unearths the secret links to Trump and/or Brexit, then we will hear all about it……

  8. Roger

    No new reports since 22/12, when it was reported that the perpetrator had been transferred to a Sydney hospital in a critical condition and placed in an induced coma. I don’t imagine the police have had an opportunity to interview him as yet.

  9. Herodotus

    “But the plans were on display…”

    I also liked the later Vogon Constructor Fleet Commander’s line that the plans for the Hyperspace Bypass that made destruction of Earth necessary had been “on display on Alpha Centauri” for some time.

  10. Traffic Branch are still investigating why the driver left the scene of the accident.

    With his friends who nonchalantly ignored the sound of the explosion. Perfectly normal behaviour. Apparently.

  11. Herodotus

    I don’t imagine the police have had an opportunity to interview him as yet.

    Yes, but – vehicle rego, ID of suspect. We get nothing but a very smelly denial that the incident had anything to do with anything. Was he a Swap & Go Gas man who flipped out? I don’t think so.

  12. classical_hero

    There was no attack on the Australian Christian Lobby headquarters.

  13. .

    The US military is not within striking distance of Baghdad!

  14. Baldrick

    Have we learned anything yet about the Canberra arsonist?

    Yes. ACT Police are just as complicit in covering-up the truth and deploying the Cone of Silence as VicPol.

  15. C.L.

    Arsonist?
    Try terrorist.
    An arsonist is a bloke with a bottle of turps and a Bic.

  16. Roger

    Yes, but – vehicle rego, ID of suspect.

    AFP don’t release suspect’s names.

    But I agree the early denial of nefarious motives by them was odd.

  17. Infidel Tiger

    It was just a car accident, probably some poor Canberra public servant was speeding to get into work early so he could help the public and log in another 18 hour day.

  18. struth

    Why are you interested in this when we have rampant bogans actually calling people names on trains?
    Our journalists righteously chase these people down and expose them nationally for their shameful behavior , never satisfied until their lives are ruined.
    A young girl even called a footballer an ape.
    Blowing up Christian buildings is chicken feed compared to the horrors mentioned above.

  19. Muddy

    No, but if you rearrange the word ‘arsonist’, you get ‘raison t.’ The ‘t’ obviously means toast in this context, so ‘Canberra raison toast.’ That must be colloquial public servant-speak for something.

  20. Muddy

    Something fruity. That doesn’t want to get burned. But they have smooth edges.

  21. Muddy

    And they’re heavily into butter.

  22. Chris

    We know that Dr Pig-Ignorant McRabies used his Landrover Disco and a gas bottle to try and blow up the terminal at Glasgow airport, and failed; while an accident(?) caused a horrific blast at Ravenshoe cafe .
    On general grounds of copycat theory, we expect people who see themselves as similar to the perps to do imitative crimes. The gas bottle appears to attract some real incompetents, but has huge potential.

  23. cuckoo

    Forget it Jake, it’s Canberratown. (Apologies to anyone who’s already used this.)

  24. Muddy

    I’ve got it! From ‘Canberra arsonist’ you can derive ‘carrot arse’ plus some random left-over letters that probably don’t matter anyway (most likely conservative-leaning members of the alphabet). So Carrot Arse. Is it just me, or does it seem so simple now?

  25. Chris

    ACT Police are just as complicit in covering-up the truth and deploying the Cone of Silence as VicPol.

    Under copycat theory, media coverage is very likely to ‘offer rewards’ and ‘teach methods’ for trying an imitative crime. While its frustrating for reactionary know-it-all window-lickers like me, I hope like hell the silence will prevent nitwits with the IQ of an iron filing and the education of a Masshadi goat, getting all blasty.
    A hasty baseball bat upside certain activists and media people might have saved us both Port Arthur, and Monash killings.

  26. thefrolickingmole

    Waves hands mystically…
    ….this is not the Australian Christian Lobby headquarters terroist attack you were looking for…

    /Obi Wan off.

  27. Andrew

    Muddy
    #2250916, posted on January 3, 2017 at 5:52 pm
    I’ve got it! From ‘Canberra arsonist’ you can derive ‘carrot arse’ plus some random left-over letters that probably don’t matter anyway (most likely conservative-leaning members of the alphabet). So Carrot Arse. Is it just me, or does it seem so simple now?

    I think you’ve got it. Clearly it’s the fault of Tony A666ott. So if you simply interrogate the phrase “Canberra Arsonist – Abbott” the anagram is “Abbott Bans Carrot In Arse.”

    It’s a clear protest against the extremist Catholics in the hyper-conservative wing of the Liberal party banning Safe Schools from providing practical training in bumsex for Year 4’s.

  28. Dave of Cossack

    The Russians did it.

  29. iain russell

    I think Kuffir Macan has it right at ..899. An overworked and stressed APS dweeb, rushing to ensure some widow receives her mite. Was my first thought as well.

  30. ArthurB

    If the target had been a mosque, or the office of a feminist collective, the name of the perp would have been leaked to their ABC within hours of the incident. The fact that in nearly two weeks we haven’t heard anything more from the police leads me to suspect that there is a cover-up.

  31. Rabz

    Someone unsound enough to use gas bottles and then walk kilometres while critically injured

    Hasn’t that hypothesis been thoroughly debunked?

  32. Meanwhile, in the UK the plod will arrest you for placing bacon on mosque doors. The judiciary will place you in the clink for that heinous crime. Then you mysteriously die whilst in Muslim-dominated jail.
    In Oz, everyone involved stays silent.
    Stange days indeed.

  33. johanna

    I did read in a report last week that he is 35 years old.

    That should narrow it down.

  34. Robber Baron

    Steve, rest assured Canberra plod has their best man on the case.

  35. Noodles Romanoff

    “I did read in a report last week that he is 35 years old.”
    Clearly reportee was an ageist.

  36. jupes

    I don’t imagine the police have had an opportunity to interview him as yet.

    Well they’ve interviewed him enough to know the incident has nothing to do with ‘religion’, politics or some other thing (that slips my mind at the minute).

    So they know what is not the reason he did it, but not the reason he did it.

    Hmmmm

  37. Leo G

    Remember to be reassured:

    Police are conducting a thorough investigation and there is no threat to public safety and encourage the Canberra community to go about their business today, reassured that ACT Policing is working to establish the circumstances surrounding this incident.

  38. Roger

    Well they’ve interviewed him enough to know the incident has nothing to do with ‘religion’, politics or some other thing (that slips my mind at the minute).

    After about a minute with a man under physical duress in a hospital emergency department…the officer who tendered that opinion publicly should be “offered’ early retirement. Given that it’s the AFP he’s probably slated for a commendation.

  39. the sting

    What time was the explosion and what time did he arrive at the hospital ?

  40. The Turks know more about a murderer they can’t catch than we know about a man we have in custody.

  41. Leo G

    What time was the explosion and what time did he arrive at the hospital?

    According to news reports the explosion was at 9:30pm. The arrival time at Canberra Hospital was not reported.
    One interesting question asks why a man with critical injuries would walk the 4km to Canberra Hospital, a walk that should take a healthy adult 54 minutes, when there are 3 private hospitals signposted along the walking route, the closest being only 500 metre from the explosion site- a 4 minute walk relative to the 54 minute walk to Canberra Hospital.

  42. Zyconoclast

    According to news reports the explosion was at 9:30pm. The arrival time at Canberra Hospital was not reported.
    One interesting question asks why a man with critical injuries would walk the 4km to Canberra Hospital, a walk that should take a healthy adult 54 minutes, when there are 3 private hospitals signposted along the walking route, the closest being only 500 metre from the explosion site- a 4 minute walk relative to the 54 minute walk to Canberra Hospital.

    I just check a map app and there are two hospital very close by.

    Australian Christian Lobby
    https://goo.gl/maps/ZfKxR6YZn7K2

    Seems like a medical zone with clinics and pathology near by.

    Very suspicious.

  43. Max

    Miranda Devine: Too many unanswered questions in ACL explosion

  44. J.H.

    These are not the droids you were looking for….. There was no fire and no van….. All is as it should be.

  45. John Comnenus

    Yes the ACL HQ is in Deakin which is a large medical area. The John James Hospital would be 5 mins from the incident site. But JJ is a private hospital without an emergency department, 24 hr reception and I am pretty sure has a big sign on the front door directing emergency cases to Canberra Hospital. Still, you would think that he would knock on the door.

  46. Mother Lode

    I’ve got it! From ‘Canberra arsonist’ you can derive ‘carrot arse’ plus some random left-over letters that probably don’t matter anyway

    The left over letters are probably a new gender that wants to get married.

    Hence the need for a cover up.

  47. john constantine

    In their yarragrad, if someone in a vehicle starts a fire, and the owners of the property that ‘became burnt’ try too hard to obtain the details of the firestarter from the police force that has the identity of the furestarter on file, the policy from the top level of yarragrad janissaries is to fine the owners of the burnt property until they go away.

    Welcome to our shiny new “Big Stalin” state, the proles do not ask the questions.

  48. Leo G

    Another interesting question is about the accuracy of the reports that the arsonist had extensive 2nd degree burns covering 70% of his body and was in a critical condition- yet was allowed to be interviewed by police during treatment at Canberra Hospital.

  49. teddy bear

    Out of curiosity would the ACL be able to attempt to get the persons identity to sue for civil damages?

  50. Ubique

    How can it be that after nearly two weeks the police have still not released Mohammed’s full name?

  51. hzhousewife

    Another interesting question is about the accuracy of the reports that the arsonist had extensive 2nd degree burns covering 70% of his body and was in a critical condition- yet was allowed to be interviewed by police during treatment at Canberra Hospital.

    With burns, my understanding is that a person can be quite lucid at first, after all, his nerve endings have been burnt off, so no feeling. After 5 or 6 hour or so however, the body goes into shock mode and swells and that is when the person will become non compos mentis. I remember some quite graphic pictures from the Bali bombings.

  52. Leo G

    “… his nerve endings have been burnt off, so no feeling. …

    Such nerve damage occurs with 3rd degree burns. If he’d suffered 3rd degree burns to 70% of his body, I doubt that our amateur arsonist would still be alive.
    Canberra Hospital doesn’t have a Burns Unit (there don’t appear to be any in the ACT) so their severe burns cases are usually sent to Concord Hospital in Sydney.

  53. .

    teddy bear
    #2251355, posted on January 4, 2017 at 9:36 am
    Out of curiosity would the ACL be able to attempt to get the persons identity to sue for civil damages?

    You can attempt to sue anyone you like.

  54. teddy bear

    Yes but can the ACL ask the police for the persons identity

  55. Lauriesienna

    News Flash !!

    It didn’t really happen.

    Christmas is a ‘slow news’ period

    So Sorry.. now back to the real news..

    A python was seen this morning in Tasmania trying to eat a passing elephant but…..

  56. Pat Warnock

    Habib, I like that – it makes more sense of the story than apparently the police can – why the cover-up?

  57. If you want answers just ask Julian.

  58. Econocrat

    I have a friend in the AFP who said it was an attempted suicide and the location was totally random.
    I think that’s bullshit, however.

  59. al norm

    Also there is little follow up news on the Bondi Beach (Sundanese, Somali?) gang robberies on New Year morning. I guess they want to kill that before there is any connection with the gangs in Melbourne. After all we don’t want to profile.

  60. marg of nambour

    Econocrat 12.16pm
    I have a friend in the AFP who said it was an attempted suicide and the location was totally random.
    Strange that someone who went to those lengths to end their life would then walk 4m to get to a hospital.

  61. I have a friend in the AFP who said it was an attempted suicide and the location was totally random.

    Random suicide eh?
    Coz igniting gas bottles (not as easy as you’d first think – try it sometime) that you’ve loaded into your car, as you randomly crash into what just happens to be the foyer of a controversial political/religious lobby group is a suicide method used by … oh…. about Zero people each year.

  62. Max

    a woman working at a law office near the Australian Christian Lobby headquarters. Devine said the woman had noticed a red hatchback parked in the car park outside her office and two men loitering beside the car.

    Devine said the the witness has said that when the explosion occurred the two men didn’t flinch.

    “The two men she was watching didn’t flinch, they made no reaction, almost as if they were expecting it.” Devine said.

    http://www.outinperth.com/miranda-devine-acl-unanswered-questions/

  63. Leo G

    “The two men she was watching didn’t flinch, they made no reaction, almost as if they were expecting it.” Devine said.

    But even if the two were involved in a conspiracy to bomb the ACL Office, what sort of explosion would they have expected?
    The arsonist apparently did not remove the gas bottles from his van, but attempted to detonate them within the confines. It seems that he may have had a number of portable bottles (each of 9kg?) and was using a heat source in an attempt to detonate the fluid within one bottle, thereby detonating all the bottles. If so, then with say 50 kg of LPG the potential explosive force was up to the equivalent of 75kg of TNT.
    If that was the scenario, then it was no mere suicide attempt but something far more serious.
    Any accomplices who stayed close to the scene should have been very surprised immediately after the blast- surprised that they survived.

  64. cuckoo #2250912, posted on January 3, 2017 at 5:47 pm

    Forget it Jake, it’s Canberratown. (Apologies to anyone who’s already used this.)

    LOL. Inside Out!

  65. OldOzzie

    al norm
    #2251589, posted on January 4, 2017 at 12:34 pm
    Also there is little follow up news on the Bondi Beach (Sundanese, Somali?) gang robberies on New Year morning. I guess they want to kill that before there is any connection with the gangs in Melbourne. After all we don’t want to profile.

    On the TV News on the incident that I watched, they said 2 of the Sudanese Guys held were from Melbourne

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