Thursday Forum: January 12, 2017

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  1. Fleeced

    I can’t wait to see who Trump gives medals to!

  2. BrettW

    Anne,
    If VIC not so much of a surprise with Andrews.
    If really such a billboard going to get a bit more press other than Twitter I would think.

  3. john constantine

    Like fracking was developed to cure high oil and gas prices, recycling waste stockpiles of uranium will be the likely response to high uranium prices.

    The worlds biggest uranium mines sit unexploited in first world countries waste stockpiles, just waiting for the forklift to load the barrels into the truck.

  4. Gab

    Presidential Medal of Freedom ain’t worth a crap now.

  5. Anne

    I just luvs ya, Anne. You’re my kind of cray-cray 😀

    That’s lovely to hear, Gab, and high praise coming from you. 

  6. Zyconoclast

    An African woman living in Australia blames the Australian health system for letting down girls regarding female genital mutilation.

    No mention that nearly all cases in Australia were performed in Africa by Africans.

    Watch from 16:30

    http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/abc-news-nsw/NN1702H011S00

  7. JC

    Cohenite

    Nuke is where it’s at. If un-hobbled and allowed to scale, it would end up being cheaper than anything else.

    It’s a beautiful, magical source. Any sudden demand hit is met with a simple clockwise turn of the dial.

    I know a lot of people here think there’s no risk with gerbil warming. Nuke nukes any potential risk. It also sends greenscum crazy because their hidden agenda is to de-industrialize human society and with clean cheap energy they go fucking bonkers. Win win.

  8. Rabz

    Sent to me by the Oz:

    How is the United States likely to operate under President Donald “Fatty” Trump? Does America’s vote represent a broader shift in anti-politician preference? What impact will his presidency have on international relations? Gain vital insight into these critical issues and more at a member-only panel discussion.

    You will hear from The Australian’s foreign editor, Greg Sheridan and economics correspondent, Adam Creighton, who has recently returned from a posting to The Wall Street Journal.

    They will examine the new president’s policies, including his controversial stance on immigration, free trade, company regulation and taxation. Importantly, they will also consider the implications for Australia in terms of security and trade, as well as the emerging changes in global political leadership.

    You could put your house on Sheridan being wrong about everything on which he opines (again).

  9. JC

    John C

    The big cost of running a nuke plant is the capital cost – not fuel. It’s highly capital intensive. That’s where the potential cost savings will come from, if the industry is allowed to scale.

    I also think there will be a lot more energy demand coming from electric cars. Yep! Electric cars.

    City commuting will be electric I think.

  10. Anne

    So, do they just give each other medals now?

    No Fleeced. Obama gives himself a medal then he gives Biden a medal, then Biden cries and rubs the shoulders of a small child.

  11. Rabz

    their hidden agenda is to de-industrialize human society and with clean cheap energy they go fucking bonkers

    So why are they succeeding in implementing this pernicious agenda?

    Oh, that’s right – a nation of fuckwits.

    Hey, look over there – a swarthy potato farmer who’s exceeded his tuber production quota!

  12. Empire GTHO Phase III

    You could put your house on Sheridan being wrong about everything on which he opines (again).

    Completely, totally, 100% wrong.

    I can’t for the life of me understand why he hasn’t been fired for professing and disseminating wilful wrongology. It’s one of life’s great mysteries.

  13. JC

    Big fucking stocks night this evening. Yuge.

    Wells Fargo, JP Morgan and Bank America all reporting 4th quarter results.

    Yuge night!

    I have a hunch that Bank of America is going to blow it out of the water tonight. They’ve never reported alongside JPMorgan and Wells. They also report a week after those two fuckers. It may be they had an outstanding quarter and want to get it out there.

    This could set the scene for a decent part of the year if their results starting kicking goals.

  14. .

    Tony Galati ought to be cast as himself in a retconned remake of Silent Running.

  15. H B Bear

    Gribat, listed as a non-resident with a Missouri driver’s license, was charged with prostitution and practicing massage therapy without a license.

    If that is Albo-style massage therapy I’m pretty sure I don’t have a licence either. “Is there a problem officer?”

  16. OneWorldGovernment

    For all you Ted Cruz fans, the Gateway Pundit has a couple of brief articles on 2 bills Cruz is re-introducing

    Ted Cruz Creates Bill To Cut Off Funding to UN After Anti-Israel Vote!

    and

    Ted Cruz Takes Aim At The Muslim Brotherhood – Designates Them Terrorists In New Bill

    Interesting list of names in that second link.

  17. Leigh Lowe

    Presidential Medal of Freedom ain’t worth a crap now.

    Biden peeled the gold foil off his and started eating it before the ceremony had finished.

  18. JC

    Tony Galati ought to be cast as himself in a retconned remake of Silent Running.

    He needs laser treatment on his uni-brow. Good guy though.

  19. H B Bear

    Ted Cruz Takes Aim At The Muslim Brotherhood – Designates Them Terrorists In New Bill

    Well that could be a problem for Hussein Obozo’s retirement plans.

  20. H B Bear

    With Ley gawn the Performing Stick Insect is next in the firing line.

    Ready, aim ….

  21. JC

    Fox News’ Neil Cavuto gives CNN a really decent kicking.

    So good to watch.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t25D0hr2OYTony Galati ought to be cast as himself in a retconned remake of Silent Running.

  22. Mother Lode

    Baldrick,

    Don’t mock Pockys. I still have a few packs left.

    Now, if someone could steer me to the salada pretz I would much appreciate it.

  23. Anne

    JC, that link won’t play for me.

    What should I search on YouTube?

  24. sdfc

    Big fucking stocks night this evening. Yuge.

    Retail sales and consumer sentiment tonight.

    Trumpy’s put a rocket under small business and consumer sentiment.

  25. JC

    Here Annie

    Weird link concoction. Wasn’t watching..which is often.

  26. .

    This has a funnier end to it than the other CNN Fake News thing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8uxA1fuUNA&feature=youtu.be

    Trump belts DC insiders as careerists making money out of being in public office.

  27. Snoopy

    JC
    #2261266, posted on January 13, 2017 at 10:18 pm
    Big fucking stocks night this evening. Yuge.

    The portents are good. Their ABC:

    Wall St: US stocks fall as Trump rally falters

  28. Gab

    With puppies!, hzhousewife. 😀

  29. JC

    The portents are good. Their ABC:

    Wall St: US stocks fall as Trump rally falters

    Lord, they’re fucking useless. It’s like they live in some greenleft parallel universe. They’re just useless.

  30. testpattern

    Japan revealed that a chinese shenyang j11 intercepted an australian Orion in the sc sea

    http://www.sankei.com/smp/politics/news/170112/plt1701120006-s1.html

  31. Leo G

    Presidential Medal of Freedom ain’t worth a crap now.

    Not worth a beanball?

  32. DrBeauGan

    SRR, you came good again. I was so taken with the trailers to Going Postal, I went out and bought the DVD. I already have the books.

    Apart from the putting a stop to Adora Belle’s smoking, and a few other bits of politically correct crap, it was excellent and did a very fair job of following the book. The bloke delivering the letter to the defunct Reacher Gilt looked a lot like Terry Pratchett. At the very end.

  33. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspeeklike

    Almost 40 years after the death of Josef Mengele, the Nazi doctor who experimented on inmates at Auschwitz, his bones are being used to teach forensic medicine at a university in Brazil.

    The scarred skeleton, which includes traces of dental and sinus problems and a fractured pelvis, was ideal for study, Daniel Romero Munoz, of the Sao Paulo Legal Medical Institute, said.

    He came up with the idea of using Mengele’s bones after they had been stored for 31 years in a plastic bag at the university, having been identified in 1985.

    Mengele, known as the Angel of Death, fled to South America after the collapse of Nazi Germany. He lived for a decade in Buenos Aires, then moved to Paraguay after Mossad agents captured Adolf Eichmann, an architect of the Holocaust, who was also living in the Argentine capital.

    He moved to Brazil, evading Israeli and German attempts to track him down. He drowned while swimming off the coast of Sao Paolo state in 1979 at the age of 67.

    From the Oz……….

  34. marcus w

    as an open forum …… I seek anyone else in the interwebforum world to compete against in there devotion to one of the greatest films ever …. “Man of flowers “… by Paul Cox .. 1983.. best film ever … any one wanna agree or debate ?

  35. Epic article from Theodore Dalrymple. His longer pieces require more grey matter but they are worth it. He dissects the PC culture creeping into his area of expertise (medicine) and aligns it beautifully with the infection (s’cuse the pun) in the rest of the world. Many, many epic quotes to get you interested;

    Just because something is nonsense, of course, does not mean that people fail to believe it

    The object of political correctness not being to spread truth but to exercise power, the more it violates common feeling or opinion while at the same time exercising a moral terror against dissenters, the more effective it is. It is not surprising, then, that it should grow ever more extreme, and attach itself to ever more arcane subject matter.

    “Some concepts are evolving, so usage may vary.”
    The better, one might add, to keep you in a state of fear of uttering a word or phrase subsequently declared to be offensive, and thereby to exercise continued power over you.

    Only a man with a mind of marshmallow could read these definitions and not simultaneously want to kill himself and fall about laughing.

    But the most interesting definition was that of genderqueer. None of my circle of acquaintances whom I asked to define the term had even heard of it, but I am glad to say that all those compulsory Microsoft updates that so irritate and frustrate me when I turn on my computer have included the adoption of the word as a normal term, for it is not underlined in red as being in error when I type it.

  36. Anne

    “Man of flowers “… by Paul Cox .. 1983.. best film ever … any one wanna agree or debate?

    Have you seen, “Flying High”?

  37. Did Jesus have brothers?

    Let’s look at the data:

    The texts cited at the beginning of this article show beyond a doubt that there existed a real and near kinship between Jesus and His “brethren”. But as “brethren” (or “brother”) is applied to step-brothers as well as to brothers by blood, and in Scriptural, and Semitic use generally, is often loosely extended to all near, or even distant, relatives (Genesis 13:8, 14:14-16; Leviticus 10:4; 1 Chronicles 15:5-10, 23:21-22), the word furnishes no certain indication of the exact nature of the relationship. Some ancient heretics, like Helvidius and the Antidicomarianites, maintained that the “brethren” of Jesus were His uterine brothers the sons of Joseph and Mary. This opinion has been revived in modern times, and is now adopted by most of the Protestant exegetes. On the orthodox side two views have long been current. The majority of the Greek Fathers and Greek writers, influenced, it seems, by the legendary tales of apocryphal gospels, considered the “brethren” of the Lord as sons of St. Joseph by a first marriage. The Latins, on the contrary, with few exceptions (St. Ambrose, St. Hilary, and St. Gregory of Tours among the Fathers), hold that they were the Lord’s cousins. That they were not the sons of Joseph and Mary is proved by the following reasons, leaving out of consideration the great antiquity of the belief in the perpetual virginity of Mary. It is highly significant that throughout the New Testament Mary appears as the Mother of Jesus and of Jesus alone. This is the more remarkable as she is repeatedly mentioned in connexion with her supposed sons, and, in some cases at least, it would have been quite natural to call them her sons (cf. Matthew 12:46; Mark 3:31; Luke 8:19; Acts 1:14). Again, Mary’s annual pilgrimage to Jerusalem (Luke 2:41) is quite incredible, except on the supposition that she bore no other children besides Jesus. Is it likely that she could have made the journey regularly, at a time when the burden of child-bearing and the care of an increasing number of small children (she would be the mother of at least four other sons and of several daughters, cf Matthew 13:56) would be pressing heavily upon her? A further proof is the fact that at His death Jesus recommended His mother to St. John. Is not His solicitude for her in His dying hour a sign that she would be left with no one whose duty it would be to care for her? And why recommend her to an outsider if she had other sons? Since there was no estrangement between Him and His “brethren”, or between them and Mary, no plausible argument is confirmed by the words with which he recommends her: ide ho uios sou, with the article before uios (son); had there been others sons, ide uios sou, without the article, would have been the proper expression.

    The decisive proof, however, is that the father and mother of at least two of these “brethren” are known to us. James and Joseph, or Joses, are, as we have seen, the sons of Alpheus, or Clopas, and of Mary, the sister of Mary the Mother of Jesus, and all agree that if these are not brothers of the Saviour, the others are not. This last argument disposes also of the theory that the “brethren” of the Lord were the sons of St. Joseph by a former marriage. They are then neither the brothers nor the step-brothers of the Lord. James, Joseph, and Jude are undoubtedly His cousins. If Simon is the same as the Symeon of Hegesippus, he also is a cousin, since this writer expressly states that he was the son of Clopas the uncle of the Lord, and the latter’s cousin. But whether they were cousins on their father’s or mother’s side, whether cousins by blood or merely by marriage, cannot be determined with certainty. Mary of Clopas is indeed called the “sister” of the Blessed Virgin (John 19:25), but it is uncertain whether “sister” here means a true sister or a sister-in-law. Hegesippus calls Clopas the brother of St. Joseph. This would favour the view that Mary of Clopas was only the sister-in-law of the Blessed Virgin, unless it be true, as stated in the manuscripts of the Peshitta version, that Joseph and Clopas married sisters. The relationship of the other “brethren” may have been more distant than that of the above named four.

  38. marcus w

    yes Anne … only 3 or 4 times…. Man of Flowers …..30

  39. Entropy

    Man of flowers”
    Dunno, ne’er heard of it. Is Clint Eastwood in it? Is that the one where someone claims he is a yellow bellied coward? That was a good’un.

  40. OneWorldGovernment

    BoN, or anyone else.

    Is it possible to actually submit an application to ‘some’ government department to build and operate a nuclear power station in Australia?

    Is there a path to actually start the process?

  41. Anne

    yes Anne … only 3 or 4 times…. Man of Flowers …..30

    30!

    Marcus, you need to work more. 😯

  42. Rev. Archibald

    Is it possible to actually submit an application to ‘some’ government department to build and operate a nuclear power station in Australia?

    Is there a path to actually start the process?

    ..
    You would need billions, and would be blocked left, right and centre.
    So, in effect, no.

  43. marcus w

    Fair point Anne…. after wasting taxpayers cash doing “cinema studies”at La Trobe….I came away with a fixation for this film…..Sumptuous visuals, witty dialogue….. lines like ..”” ..I would work Saturday ….but the union wont let me…. see what I mean ….the world is completely fucked” Vale Paul cox

  44. JC

    There’s a federal ban on nuclear in Australia. You may even be able to build the plant, but the government wouldn’t allow enriched u to come in.

  45. OneWorldGovernment

    Rev. Archibald
    #2261315, posted on January 14, 2017 at 12:09 am

    You would need billions, and would be blocked left, right and centre.
    So, in effect, no.

    But do you know where you would start Rev?

  46. Rev. Archibald

    The Commonwealth Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act 1999 prohibits certain nuclear actions specified in s.22A unless a federal approval is obtained. It specifically prohibits nuclear power generation in s.140A (an amendment insisted upon by the Australian Democrats). The Act states that the Minister must not approve an action consisting of or involving the construction or operation of a nuclear fuel fabrication plant, or a nuclear power plant, or an enrichment plant, or a reprocessing facility.

    Additional nuclear industrial prohibitions exist under state legislation in South Australia and Victoria.

    South Australia Edit
    The objects of the Nuclear Waste Storage Facility (Prohibition) Act 2000 are “to protect the health, safety and welfare of the people of South Australia and to protect the environment in which they live by prohibiting the establishment of certain nuclear waste storage facilities in this State.” As such, the Act prohibits the:

    Construction or operation of nuclear waste storage facility
    Importation or transportation of nuclear waste for delivery to a nuclear waste storage facility[43]
    Victoria Edit
    The objects of the Nuclear Activities (Prohibitions) Act 1983 are:

    “to protect the health, welfare and safety of the people of Victoria and to limit deterioration of the environment in which they dwell by prohibiting the establishment of nuclear activities and by regulating the possession of certain nuclear materials, in a manner consistent with and conducive to assisting the Commonwealth of Australia in meeting its international nuclear non-proliferation objectives.”

    As such, the Act prohibits exploration for uranium or thorium, possession of nuclear material and the constructing or operating certain facilities including:

    for the production of uranium or thorium ore concentrates
    for conversion or enrichment of any nuclear material
    for the fabrication of fuels for use in nuclear reactors
    a nuclear reactor or nuclear power reactor
    for reprocessing spent fuel[44]
    Nuclear power debate in Australia

  47. JC

    The Act states that the Minister must not approve an action consisting of or involving the construction or operation of a nuclear fuel fabrication plant, or a nuclear power plant, or an enrichment plant, or a reprocessing facility.

    So you can’t even construct a plant and leave it unused. No one in their right mind would do it, but that’s how far the law goes. What a sick country.

  48. Rev. Archibald

    Here is the entire 1999 commonwealth environmental act.
    ..
    The surprising thing is that anything ever gets built or done in this country at all.

  49. JC

    USSR

    This dude, who claims to be Serbian, posting a comment about Tillerson’s congressional testimony on China relations, sounds a lot like you in broken English. Any relation?

    NedzadRamovic
    Rex Tillerson must say that on press conference(same thing listen of democrats)Rpublicans and Democrats same side of the one coin work for the same boses, to cover and minimize damage of case Trump. In America drasticaly nothing has changed . First millioner in USA says 1867 Please dont ask me how i get my first million dollars. USA and his allies is biggest thieves in history,WORLD MONETARY FOUND, Dollar at from 1927 world exchange valute. Make deals , support regimes who is on his side and sys you are good, blakmailing countries, buy it regimes,make civil wars in the name of laying demokarcy,.
    My goverment in Serbia buy it for 400 million euros , that money give British ambasador in Belgrade 2008 in the name US and EU. In many cases suported nacinalist regimes, and later this regimes called democrats and work for interests US and his allies. Boris Jeltsin is been good because close eyes , but Vladimir Putin wont close his eyes and stand on way to protect Russia. Russia and China must stay together and protect his interests. Why Vietnam no make deal with China neighbours , but with USA who killed in war 2 millons Vietnamese people. USA buy regime in Hanoy.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/rex-tillerson-south-china-sea-state-media-prepare-military-clash-donald-trump-global-times-a7525061.html

  50. OneWorldGovernment

    Thanks Rev but what does this mean?

    The Commonwealth Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act 1999 prohibits certain nuclear actions specified in s.22A unless a federal approval is obtained.

  51. banger

    Good luck with the US banks JC .
    Just for you .
    New York Shuffle

  52. srr

    Michael Savage talking to a guy from 4Chan about how THEY, AT 4Chan started the story about Trump in a Russian Hotel – trolling anti-Trump propagandists –

    https://youtu.be/p4CsyXNHbBY?t=1032

    … oh, it covers a lot more than that, as does the whole show on other issues … well worth a listen 😉

  53. Andrew

    President Barack Obama surprised an emotional Vice President Joe Biden Thursday by presenting him the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation’s highest civilian honor, during a White House ceremony.

    Why, was he a major donor to the Party?

  54. cohenite

    islam as the victim from a usual source the shit morning herald: not one attack listed but the usual threat: treat us right or else:

    But one woman reads new complaints on a daily basis and they make her heart ache. Lawyer Mariam Veiszadeh founded the Islamophobia Register in 2014 for exactly such reports, in response to a growing number of attacks on Muslims in Australia. She herself is constantly under attack for her advocacy work, but she soldiers on.

    Since Pauline Hanson’s return to politics, Veiszadeh has also decided to fact check the policies of One Nation. In the first 24 hours since the website’s launch, 100,000 people visited the site.

    Veiszadeh felt that Australians needed to see for themselves what the claims of One Nation actually were. “People are struggling to separate fact from fiction so we did it for them,” she says. That includes claims like ‘all Muslims are terrorists’.

    “The point is that if you want people to be engaged civically and you want them to be part of the fabric of this nation, you can’t demonise them.”

  55. struth

    The point is that if you want people to be engaged civically and you want them to be part of the fabric of this nation, you can’t demonise them.”

    Besides all the other wrongs here, that we all know, the veiled threats, the point that muslims who allow terrorism in their name and do nothing about it are virtually accomplices, the trouble , misogyny, violence and death that is perpetrated from such a small section of our community, she wrongly assumes we want them to engage “civilly” when in fact, were never even asked if we wanted them at all.

  56. Struth;
    Yerushalmi added:
    The Islamists employ the progressive mainstream media to label any public criticism of a sharia-centric, jihad-driven Islam as “Islamophobic,” and they add fear and financial ruin to the equation by utilizing the legal system to file SLAPP actions.
    Their aims never deviate from the central goal – the conquest of the world and the creation of the Islamic State.

  57. Format Fail;

    Struth;

    Yerushalmi added:
    The Islamists employ the progressive mainstream media to label any public criticism of a sharia-centric, jihad-driven Islam as “Islamophobic,” and they add fear and financial ruin to the equation by utilizing the legal system to file SLAPP actions.

    Their aims never deviate from the central goal – the conquest of the world and the creation of the Islamic State.

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