I Believe that Children Are Our Future

Writing for the Fairfax “media“, journalist, early childhood education consultant Lisa Bryant took exception with Senator David Leyonhjelm’s recent comments on childcare.  Not only calling Leyonhjelm ignorant, Bryant extended her critique to those who voted for him.  Presumably, that included yours truly:

Ignorance. It’s a funny thing. By definition, it’s a lack of knowledge or information. Senator David Leyonhjelm owes his election as a senator to it.

Oh.  Bryant also has a go at Senator Pauline Hanson:

… the qualifications of those caring and educating them matter and why Leyonhjelm and Hanson’s ignorance really does matter.

Bryant then goes on to detail her views on why early childcare “educator” qualifications are important.  One might wonder if Ms Bryant actually makes a living from the heavily government subsidised childcare industrial complex; but this is not disclosed in her article.  But wait.  I have recently discovered this thing called googleweb and found this:

Lisa Bryant is a consultant in the early education and care sector. She has written multiple articles on the subject for national media and edits a number of industry publications.

Hmmm.  I wonder if this means she has a personal economic stake in this issue?  Notwithstanding, Ms Bryant writes:

One of the basic things we know about how young children’s brains develop is that they need interaction with a loving caregiver or caregivers.

Note how she speaks of loving caregiver(s) not qualified caregiver(s) – unless that is of course that the Certificate III qualification in childcare trains caregiver(s) to love children!  Ms Bryan also writes about:

decades of research proved that one of the main determinants of the quality of childcare is the qualifications of the educators delivering it.

I bet.  Is this the same researcher produced by those who have infiltrated and infected the ordinary school curricula?  Safe Schools anyone?

Ms Bryan then extols the virtues of the National Quality Framework for Education and Care Services, which according to her (and I would not know better)

demands that every educator has a minimum of a Certificate III qualification in childcare.

But this is her justification for the mandating of qualifications:

The number of times all governments in Australia have agreed to jointly do anything is miniscule, but so compelling was the strength of this research that they all unequivocally agreed to bring in minimum qualification requirements.

Yes.  Because a bunch of governments, lead by a spendthrift Commonwealth Government agreed to throw buckets of other people’s money at something, it must be good.

My question of Ms Bryan is the following.  If all the research shows that early childcare education is important and more and more money is being spent, why are educational outcomes going backwards?

This is the thing with large government programs  Evidence?  Bah!  Outcomes?  Feh!  Intentions?  Yippee!  Other people’s money?  Hoorah!

There was an Austrian fellow in the 1930’s and 1940’s who said the following:

The State must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.

You know who said that?  That’s right.  Adolf Hitler.

I also know that the introduction of “Hitler” and “Nazi” is generally and admission that one has failed in a debate, but my purpose is to remind of the propaganda value of claiming to do things for children.  But to end on a lighter note, perhaps memorizing this following should also be part of the Certificate III qualification in childcare.

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46 Responses to I Believe that Children Are Our Future

  1. Bruce of Newcastle

    A lefty who appears to think everyone who disagrees with her is “ignorant”.
    And parents trust her with their children?

  2. Lem

    Totalitarians aren’t stupid. They know the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.

  3. Rufus

    The long march of credentialism continues. Too many snouts in too many troughs to change course now?

  4. A Lurker

    The long march of credentialism continues.

    I envisage a Gattaca-type future in which the State controls the fertility of its citizens, and only those deemed suitable will be allowed to conceive. Suitability dependent upon how compliant and obedient you are as a citizen and whether or not you have successfully completed the prescribed diploma in ‘Appropriate Parenting’.

  5. One of the basic things we know about how young children’s brains develop is that they need interaction with a loving caregiver or caregivers.

    So wouldn’t they be better off with their Mother of Father? Oh that’s right, they can’t do that anymore as they both have to work in order to pay the taxes required to fund the subsidies and grants to send their kids to childcare.

  6. Allan Charles

    Tried to get some answers on https://www.facebook.com/kinderlingradio/ who also decided to go after David Leyonhjelm, the group circled and decided to go after me too. Evasive as, with no clear evidence. I also almost was going to invoke Godwin’s Law especially when they contradict their own argument but gave up. Found it very difficult when they change the rules of the argument in real time. When the sisterhood is running at full steam the task is daunting, especially when they don’t even listen.

  7. Art Vandelay

    decades of research pseudo-scientific nonsense and waffle proved that one of the main determinants of the quality of childcare is the qualifications of the educators delivering it.

    Fixed that for her.

  8. Baldrick

    Socialist’s always assume the State can care better for a child than the nurturing of its parents.

  9. Fred

    My mother was a housewife and looked after 4 children. She left school at age 15. We didn’t spend a single day in quality early childhood education.

    The four of us turned out to be a lawyer, scientist (with a PhD), an engineer and a chartered accountant. If only my mother had a Cert III!

  10. Hydra

    What I want to know is why I have to pay my kids to be in childcare education why cannot I just pay for them to be babysat while I work?

  11. Dr Fred Lenin

    It is important we destroy the red paedophillic”unsafe schools” agenda and get the promoters of it off the Taxpayer teat ,without money the left bludgers are stuffed , dont . worry ,they . wont go out and get some by working they are unemployable .

  12. Stackja

    My dad worked. Dad paid taxes. Mum cared. I worked. Paid taxes. Now the feminists want tax money for state ‘care’. Abolish state ‘care’. Save taxes.

  13. Diogenes

    quality of childcare is the qualifications of the educators delivering it.

    Quality as measured by ….

    hy I have to pay my kids to be in childcare education why cannot I just pay for them to be babysat while I work?

    Which s exactly the point DL was making.

  14. Ken

    More and more kids aregoing into early childcare but our academic result keep going backwards…

  15. JohnA

    Mr Rusty #2260859, posted on January 13, 2017, at 2:59 pm

    One of the basic things we know about how young children’s brains develop is that they need interaction with a loving caregiver or caregivers.

    So wouldn’t they be better off with their Mother of Father? Oh that’s right, they can’t do that anymore as they both have to work in order to pay the taxes required to fund the subsidies and grants to send their kids to childcare so that the femenazis can show the world how caring the leftist agenda is, by releasing mothers from the drudgery of childcare.

    FTFY

  16. Atoms for Peace

    I tend to look at what graduates from high school. The product should be rolled gold considering all of the well intentioned programs and money thrown at it.
    Then again, the powers that be like them dumb.

  17. Squirrel

    Away from the world of the social media echo chamber, many parents of young children would probably agree heartily with Senator Leyonhjelm’s comments about parents having a choice, and paying accordingly.

  18. Rev. Archibald

    One of the basic things we know about how young children’s brains develop is that they need interaction with a loving caregiver or caregivers.

    ..
    This is bizarre.
    They really think you can contract out parental love?
    Completely off the planet.
    The best you can hope for with a paid care-giver is professionalism. Not love for God’s sake.

  19. miltonf

    interaction with a loving caregiver or caregivers.

    Yeah they’re called mothers and fathers.

  20. RobK

    Every so often you hear of a baby animal being reared by a surrogate of another species and the peculiarities it can invoke. The old addage of “it takes a village to raise a child” is now more like “it takes the State to raise a child”. The same process weaknesses apply as with any centralist propagated scheme; the formula is not nearly as responsive as the natural one.
    As for the implication of a Cert III being something akin to motherly (or fatherly) love….wrong.

  21. Petros

    Direct quotes from A. Hitler are not used often enough against the wannabe totalitarians we encounter, I Am Spartacus. It ain’t Godwin’s law if you are quoting him verbatim. One needs to read passages from Mein Kampf to find the better stuff, not the ones that come up on a simple google search of Hitler quotes.

  22. Old44

    I can think of another group in our community that are into “loving” children and they aren’t a million miles away from the principles of safe schools.

  23. Janet

    One thing we know for sure is babies and toddlers need quiet as well as interaction for brain development; alas, child care centres are often very noisy places, with consequent negative effects on children’s perception of sound and their ability to distinguish individual sounds. Meanwhile, in the real world schools continue to poach the capable qualified early childhood educators from childcare centres, no matter how many teachers the child care centre trains up; once qualified, they’d always rather work in a school or preschool instead, where the pay is better, the conditions are better, job satisfaction is better; rather than long hours in a childcare centre where the staff, even the qualified staff have to do the cleaning. Teachers who’ve worked in schools are outraged by the duties of childcare “professionals” while anyone with a bachelor of education will move very rapidly to a school for more pay and better work conditions. Gosh, who’d have thought, policy with unintended consequences…

  24. H B Bear

    For all his faults you gotta love David Leyonhjelm. Even the mention of his name now inspires the same Pavlovian response among Lefties as that of Gina Rinehart and the IPA.

  25. nilk

    I envisage a Gattaca-type future in which the State controls the fertility of its citizens, and only those deemed suitable will be allowed to conceive. Suitability dependent upon how compliant and obedient you are as a citizen and whether or not you have successfully completed the prescribed diploma in ‘Appropriate Parenting’.

    No, think more likely Huxley. With the advances in assisted reproductive technology – including the fun new invitro gametogenesis – surrogacy contracts, and the work on ectogenesis (artificial wombs), parents can commission pretty much any child they want at the price they can afford.

    Regarding state-run childcare, the Soviets tried that in the early days. When you take the children from the parents, for some reason they don’t have a whole lot of get up and go in the productivity department.

    We’ll see how this latest iteration of the Soviet experiment will turn out.

    Probs the same as the last few times.

  26. cynical1

    It ain’t Godwin’s law if you are quoting him verbatim.

    Invoke “Quirk’s exception”.

    Where a connection to Nazism is a legitimate comparison, you cannot scream “Godwin” to silence the debate.

  27. thefrolickingmole

    I have a slightly different idea about the near manditory “pre learning learning” they now claim to love.

    There ia a hard core 10-20% of Australians who are feral shitts who would be better off spayed and neutered. There are the people responsible (largely) for sending the illiterate, non verbal, abused spawn to schools which cause greif to everyone.

    Unfortunately a much higher than their proportion in the community are able to be easily identified ethnically.
    Rather than spy/ neuter or require these people become fit parents by coercive means the collectivists answer to a minority failing is group pre school learning.

    Of course this has been made an “entitlement” paid for by everyone rather than action directed at the minority who are failing their kids.
    Whats better, a parent who reads to their kids every night or 20 hours a week of structured herding?

  28. Hydra

    Godwin’s law is not that suggesting Hitler or Nazi comparison means you lose, it is just that as a debate continues longer and longer the chances of a comparative reference to Hitler or Nazi Germany approaches 1.

  29. ella answer-key

    Since we are on the subject of critiques……

    In Immanuel Kant’s “Critique of Pure Reason”, the Sage of Koenigsberg intoduces the terms ‘analytic and ‘synthetic’ propositions (statements).

    The following is an example of an analytic statement:

    (By definition), All (quantifier) bachelors are unmarried – known as ‘necessary’.

    Lisa Bryant: “Ignorance. It’s a funny thing. By definition, it’s a lack of knowledge or information.”

    Synthetic statement – contingent?

    David – please order Bryant a copy of Kant’s work. Her education level is poor.

    On Catallaxyfiles we charge by the hour. Bryant’s education will be expensive. Why?

    It’s necessary to begin with Kant and work through until 2017.

  30. ella answer-key

    If you reside in Melbourne a Summer School on Continental philosophy has started at
    University of Melbourne – fantastic value for the interesting lectures on offer.

    You will need knowledge of philosophy to the required level.

  31. NewChum

    It doesn’t take much research to determine that many children placed in to care at an early age are poorly behaved. Whether that is from withdrawal of parental love and attention or simply adaptation to lord of the flies is for others to argue. The attachment issues appear to be more prevalent in boys. Find an uncontrollable young boy and chances are you’ll find someone dumped with a parade of strangers from a young age. Sorry if it triggers anyone who had to do this, I understand it is traumatic to be forced by circumstance to leave the raising of your child to multitasking strangers. I understand the adverse reaction to being told you may have disadvantaged your child. It is still true.

    The gold standard is at least one full time parent with the child until school age, with the other parent contributing to society in some way. The sooner all government policies are skewed to make that the best option for parents, the sooner the quality of children will start to raise again.

  32. .

    …my Christmas treeee!

    Anyway, schools are like little gulags.

    We only need schools because we tolerate parents not even trying to teach their own kids anything.

    Sure, specialisation and the division of labour exists. The fact is primary education has gone backwards in the last century and what we learn in K-12 could be taught in about 4-6 years.

  33. sdfc

    We only need schools because we tolerate parents not even trying to teach their own kids anything.

    Since we’ll be educating our kids rather than working I expect it will be heavily subsidised. Gotta eat.

  34. .

    Here’s an idea. One spouse subsidises the other.

  35. sdfc

    Yeah Dot because single income households are so well off. Are you still living with your parents?

  36. .

    If you can afford it, get a nanny.

    If you can’t, then aggregating this a million times over doesn’t create net welfare gains.

  37. sdfc

    If you can afford it, get a nanny.

    Who can afford to employ family teacher?

    The comment about net welfare gains is gobbledegook.

  38. .

    Who can afford to employ family teacher?

    The idea that you need to teach kids out of a multi-million dollar complex is bizzare. As is conflating childcare and the schooling system, with the actual necessary years of education.

    The Australian school system is a make work and childcare racket.

    No. I am right. Being subsidised by other taxpayers to go to work, is dumb. Aggregating this does not raise GDP.

  39. Fulcrum

    Mixed messages from “experts” in the media regarding the importance of education are the root problem.
    Confused administrators, parents. teachers and children have never been and will never be the ingredients for success.

  40. Mike Falck

    The results of research on early childcare is a mixed bag.
    Parental involvement is THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT indicator of educational outcomes.
    But yeah, let’s just throw more money into the bonfire.

  41. Roger

    “Ignorance. It’s a funny thing.”

    So too is punctuation, apparently.

    Ms. Bryant is an “early childhood education consultant” and editor of “industry publications” who can’t write English properly. The modern education “industry” is summed up right there.

  42. PB

    “I envisage a Gattaca-type future in which the State controls the fertility of its citizens, and only those deemed suitable will be allowed to conceive. Suitability dependent upon how compliant and obedient you are as a citizen and whether or not you have successfully completed the prescribed diploma in ‘Appropriate Parenting’.”

    I think the case in favour of this scenario exists here and now.

  43. Turtle of WA

    I declare Godwins Law dead.

    How can you call out Nazi fascist scum if it’s always six and out? This isn’t backyard cricket.

  44. James

    Fairfax has a major structural flaw in their subscriber business model . Apart from benevolent idiots like me who inexplicably subscribe to the their sinking ship , at its core their audience are either deadbeat freeloaders who won’t pay for content , or public servants who also in the long run won’t pay for content . When your heartland audience are essentially spongers by nature , your revenue streams will inevitably dry up . In time they’ll be looking for taxpayer subsidised subscriptions under the guise of diversity and fairness. I’ll be happy to Piss on their metaphorical grave.

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