Thursday Forum: January 19, 2017

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1,275 Responses to Thursday Forum: January 19, 2017

  1. Gab

    Hey lets throw more taxpayers’ money at failing businesses. What a grand idea.

  2. calli

    Here’s the thing:

    ISIS a-hole: “Smash his head with a rock, or slaughter him with a knife, or run him over with your car, or throw him down from a high place, or choke him, or poison him.”

    Nice

    Berlin

    Melbourne?

    It isn’t that big a stretch. The ooze of disinformation started minutes after it happened.

  3. Combine Dave

    Pretty clear picture of the perp now available at The Australian:

    Looks like an iced up bogan…

  4. Gab

    Alcoa employees are now public servants.

  5. calli

    Can the government please throw money at my business? I could employ more people.

  6. Armadillo

    Wow. Close family friend of Billhill arrested for threatening to kill Trump on Inaguration Day.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4133938/Florida-man-threatened-kill-Trump-Clinton-friend.html

  7. NewChum

    How do we know the stabbing was not the procurement of garnet commodore?

    The burnout a thing – smoking tyres or just driving in circles looking for best place to aim? Or just a piece of Aussie flavour johad?

    Quite possible an iceman on the run from the cops.

    Still don’t let the left grab control of the narrative. Always be escalating.

  8. Boambee John

    Gab at 1445,

    Twelve months suspended seems a long time on the gallows?

  9. Fisky

    Looks like an iced up bogan…

    Hmmmmmm. You might be right.

  10. Sinclair Davidson

    Fisky – weren’t you blaming this on open borders?

  11. calli

    He wasn’t that iced up. He stopped for the tram.

  12. Gab

    Looks like an iced up bogan…

    Oh well in that case he’ll get off scot-free due to diminished capacity.

  13. Fisky

    Fisky – weren’t you blaming this on open borders?

    Of course. It is almost certainly the fault of open borders.

  14. feelthebern

    David L is starting to remind me of Larry David on Curb Your Enthusiasm.

  15. Gab

    Oh hi, Sinclair. Your Potentially Greatness Chum is throwing money at keeping an inefficient business alive.

    Great, hey?

  16. Tintarella di Luna

    Is Cory going to go full frontal:

    The conservative senator, who reportedly spent the new year travelling on luxury cruiseliner The World as a guest of Gina Rinehart, no longer has any reference to his position as a Liberal senator, or the Liberal Party on his Twitter and Facebook profiles.

    He prefers to call himself an Australian Conservative.

    His decision to delete his previous Twitter activity has again fuelled speculation that the maverick senator is preparing to quit the Liberal Party.

    THE LIBERAL PARTY IS DEAD

  17. Fisky

    Is Cory going to go full frontal:

    Oh god. I thought he had given up on this terrible idea.

  18. Lysander

    The left will come up with a useless hashtag. I can suggest one:

    #WeAreBurkes

  19. Geriatric Mayfly

    We don’t need to be told by some Emeritus Professor. The savvy ones amongst us already know that Mainland Tasmania’s recent bout of storms is caused by global warming. Warm, moist air from the tropics blah, blah blah, never happened before, wettest January since the split from Gondwanaland. Elementary stuff unworthy of a true Professor.

  20. .

    Corey and Leyonhjelm are copping flak, they are over the target.

  21. Anne

    An iced up Bogan inspired by Islam?

    A kufr jihadi, out for a drive, thought he’d kill some Australians.

  22. rickw

    VicPol: “The incident is not terror related.”

    Witness: “… he was watching the people and yelling Allah Akbar, Allah Akbar.”

    VicPol are a bunch of lying pricks. Trying to not to upset the muzzies? Just wait until the rest of us get fucking upset.

  23. Rudiau

    Just me then.
    I get a black screen with an error message.
    What’s the deal with that?

    Rev, Gab’s youtube link didn’t work for me either however this link from RT works just fine.

  24. Stimpson J. Cat

    Corey and Leyonhjelm are copping flak, they are over the target.

    Leyonhjelm wouldn’t know a target if I gave him a gift voucher for Christmas there.

  25. Lysander

    VicPol are a bunch of lying pricks. Trying to not to upset the muzzies? Just wait until the rest of us get fucking upset.

    Rick, VicPol are too busy chasing false information against Pell to bother with this sort of stuff and Apex gang etc..

  26. Combine_Dave

    Fisky – weren’t you blaming this on open borders?

    Of course. It is almost certainly the fault of open borders.

    To be honest Australia is already full to the brim, of iced up bogans on welfare, getting more from the middle east..

    Not a great plan.

  27. one old bruce

    Some twit on Blair’s blog is blaming ‘the Frankfurt School’.

    Karl Popper (on whom our Rafe is an expert) was so close to the Frankfurters and Vienna Circle that he is viewed by some as part of it. See the wikipedia article ‘positivism dispute’ for a concise example.

    Jurgen Habermas, another member of the school, has had very sympathetic dialogue with Pope Benedict XVI.

    You can’t just blame a handful of German philosophers (many Jewish refugees) for what happened in the USA in the 60s or thereafter. No, Americans must also look at themselves to see why extremes of individualism unto madness (Lena Dunham?) became popular. Especially as much of this chaos is uniquely American in character. But hey, easier to blame those damned furriners.

  28. Boambee John

    Gab at 1445,

    Twelve months suspended seems a long time on the gallows?

    aor is it the plan to bring back the gibbett?

  29. Stackja

    Van goes into ACL. Car goes into crowd.

  30. Anne

    Fisky – weren’t you blaming this on open borders?

    Of course. It is almost certainly the fault of open borders.

    And Open Borders is the brainchild of the NWO, Commie Globalists.

  31. INTSUM
    Advice I have received is as follows:

    Premier of Victoria Daniel Andrews and Chief Commissioner of VICPOL Graham Ashton have met, with two others in attendance.

    They have tried to connect the commodore driver with an alleged stabbing but a key piece of evidence is missing. The stabbing might only be gang related.

    Driver is known to police and is known to be muslim.

    They will suppress any allegation of terrorism even when there is irrefutable evidence in the hands of the public.

    Regardless of what you will be told, this was a terrorist attack. Trust your own assessment. You can no longer trust Government nor Police.

  32. Snoopy

    Regardless of what you will be told, this was a terrorist attack. Trust your own assessment. You can no longer trust Government nor Police.

    But billboards are still okay aren’t they?

  33. Fisky

    I think we would already know the perp’s name if they were from a Religion Other Than The Religion Of Peace (TM).

  34. Harald

    Registration UZS 197
    According to the Vic registration check a stolen vehicle, 1995 Red Holden Sedan.

  35. herodotus

    Family violence episode they say? Big family.

  36. .

    From the Bernardi story:

    Bill 45 minutes ago
    Perhaps he should start a Fascist Party. It would suit him well and I think a lot of the people commenting on here would be very happy that they have a party far enough to the right for them.

    Bernardi might fail us here at the Cat, he might be imperfect, but how the left yell FASCISM! at an instant is laughable.

  37. Gab

    Rev, Gab’s youtube link didn’t work for me either

    Just checked it again and it now shows it was removed by the account holder.

  38. calli

    I’m happy to trust my own assessment, especially after watching the b*stard pull up for the tram.

    Name? Probably starts with M.

  39. CL;

    Cutie-pie Tiffany Trump arrives.

    Thank God she didn’t get her dads hair.

  40. Senile Old Guy

    DL:

    In response, to criticism, Leyonhjelm also said the following: “I assume this little petal is attempting to say he disagrees with my point of view.”

    He then responded to another tweet by saying, “reacting to rogue car. They are building them with a mind of their own.”

    He really is a dill. Way to go, LDP.

  41. Baldrick

    DL’s comments were in regards to a tweet by the Hearld Sun. There’s nothing wrong with what he said when taken in context. Don’t get sucked into the Lefts motivation of trying to control the conversation:

    David Leyonhjelm‏ @DavidLeyonhjelm
    Probably one of those semi-automatic assault cars.
    Herald Sun‏ @theheraldsun
    BREAKING: It's feared at least one pedestrian has been hit in the Bourke St Mall by a rogue car driving erratically. More soon.

  42. Anne

    I think we would already know the perp’s name if they were from a Religion Other Than The Religion Of Peace (TM).

    Has the name of the Canberra ACA Van Bomb perp been revealed yet?

  43. .

    Don’t get sucked into the Lefts motivation of trying to control the conversation:

    Sad how often that happens here.

  44. Sinclair Davidson

    Your Potentially Greatness Chum is throwing money at keeping an inefficient business alive.

    Better use of money than foreign aid, public health, public education, homeless people, etc.etc. It’s not like we’re getting it back in tax cuts.

  45. Gab

    INTSUM

    Excuse my ignorance, Riccardo, what does the above mean?

  46. .

    “Known to police”

    Err, so where were ASIO, the AFP an VicPol?

    Right. But we keep metadata laws to prosecute people for owning four dogs and not three.

  47. Mater

    Intelligence Summary, Gab. Military lingo.

  48. Gab

    Better use of money than foreign aid, public health, public education, homeless people, etc.etc. It’s not like we’re getting it back in tax cuts.

    You might have a point if that was actually true. However, we are still forking out for all you’ve listed. Also, I believe it is one of the major tenets of Libertarianism that the state should not prop up inefficient companies. Has this changed?

  49. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sad how often that happens here.

    He’s a f▪cking muppet and no amount of cute cat photos will change that.
    All the anger and rage that could have been used for good will now be wasted by being directed at him instead of the rightful targets.
    He is a rank f☆cking amateur.

  50. Anne

    For sure it’s fit for ridicule, Baldrick, but it seems too flippant too soon for a Political Leader.

    He might have questioned the ridiculousness of a “rogue car” and suggest news media seek to determine the motive of the Driver.

    Anyway, good Aussies are dead including a baby and it makes me want to spit!

    I hate these filthy mongrels.

  51. Gab

    In response, to criticism, Leyonhjelm also said the following: “I assume this little petal is attempting to say he disagrees with my point of view.”

    He then responded to another tweet by saying, “reacting to rogue car. They are building them with a mind of their own.”

    He’s not humourous. He sounds unhinged.

  52. Stimpson J. Cat

    MEL

    :Mental Illness Level

    STR

    :Stimpy Trigger Rating

  53. Gab

    ” Leyonhjelm is more concerned with snark to protect his gun policy than he is about fellows Australians being mowed down by a car driver in the centre of Melbourne. Where are his priorities?”

    I can see the comments already. Leyonhjelm has done nothing but damage his image and his cause.

  54. Rev. Archibald

    No Gab.
    He is right to lambast the media’s dirty tactic of deflecting from the actual cause and motive, that they do every time one of these things blows up.
    He needs to follow up with a big “fuck you” to them as well.

  55. .

    This “too soon” nonsense is another example of us fighting fair and the left are fighting with knives.

    They don’t give a shit about “too soon”.

    Take Port Arthur for example.

    Rather than analyse the situation, noting that Bryant was already in breach of Tasmanian gun laws – the day it happens, we see long held plans by a telephone box lobby group initiated to begin a march to total prohibition (which of course had nothing substantive in it that would have prevented the tragedy).

    You can say “oh not funny”, “not befitting a leader” or “this sounds dumb” but “too soon” is a rule we follow and the left do not.

  56. Bruce of Newcastle

    Amazing what a little bit of rain will do. I seem to have a green thumb.
    They just sprout out of nowhere.

  57. Rev. Archibald

    Needs to have his open borders idiocy rubbed in his face though.

  58. rickw

    In response, to criticism, Leyonhjelm also said the following: “I assume this little petal is attempting to say he disagrees with my point of view.”

    He then responded to another tweet by saying, “reacting to rogue car. They are building them with a mind of their own.”

    There is so much important debate to be had following this immigration built tragedy and DL is saying this?! Idiot.

  59. C.L.

    What are Leyonhjelm and Bernardi up to?

  60. Gab

    No, Rev.

    His snark about the car trying to link it to guns is absurd and especially so given the timing of his comments. And he sounds unhinged and without gravitas.

  61. C.L.

    Are there links to what Leyonhjelm has said or is saying??

  62. .

    I can’t believe journalistic standards in Australia are so low that they actually referred to a “rogue car”.

    The press will entertain moonbeams who refuse to consider the possibility of rogue sharks, yet a “right wing” newspaper actually referred to a “rogue car” – pulling burnouts, with presumably an unwilling passenger in the driver seat and this car has murdered people and injured several others. ‘

    Can you imagine if 9/11 was reported to have been caused by a “rogue airliner”?

  63. Anne

    I’m happy to trust my own assessment, especially after watching the b*stard pull up for the tram.

    Name? Probably starts with M.

    Rumours he has a Greek name but he’s known to Police and is a muslim.

  64. John64

    Arseface Andrews starting his presser.

  65. .

    There is so much important debate to be had following this immigration built tragedy and DL is saying this?! Idiot.

    So he’s wrong because he’s not pushing the same agenda as you? Really?

  66. Anne

    I can’t believe journalistic standards in Australia are so low that they actually referred to a “rogue car”.

    We live in the era of, The knife went in.

  67. Infidel Tiger

    It’s happening… Senator Roberts enters the fray:

    Sen. Malcolm Roberts ‏@SenatorMRoberts
    @DavidLeyonhjelm Brilliant. One of those things I wished I had thought of first.

  68. C.L.

    Scroll up CL

    Huh?
    How dare you.

  69. Tailgunner

    Dickhead Dan on MMM…
    “No connection to terrorism….We are bigger than this evil…err…criminal thing…
    This ACT!!”
    The Cognitive dissonance defences are showing.

  70. major bushfires at coolum, any moslems there?

  71. Anne

    Arseface Andrews starting his presser.

    Let us know if we can check off these two Narrative bullet points, John.

    Immediately after the attack, the Premier goes on TV and declares that this attack had nothing to do with Islam.

    Right after that the chief of police announces that he has taken all the measures to protect Muslims from any imaginary backlash and nonexistent reprisal.

  72. Mater

    This “too soon” nonsense is another example of us fighting fair and the left are fighting with knives.

    Numbers comment a whole 42 minutes after Sinc posted the thread about the downing of MH 17.

    1735099
    #1386068, posted on July 18, 2014 at 8:11 am
    So sad.
    My prayers are with kith and kin.
    I’ve flown Malaysian with my family a couple of times and they are a professional outfit.
    The 777 is a very safe aircraft.
    What can be learned?
    1. Civil operators should avoid conflict zones.
    2. Hi-tech weapons should be controlled much more stringently. Given the lunatics who comprise the separatists – easier said than done.
    3. The control of weapons is opposed by many who post here. This incident is at the extreme end of the Glibertarian consequence spectrum. At the other end of it is the issue of our effective weapon control regime. Long may it remain.

  73. Gab

    VicPol commissioner: mental health issues and drugs.

  74. Anne

    Scroll up CL

    Huh?
    How dare you.

    Orright, CL. I’ll get it for you.

    https://twitter.com/DavidLeyonhjelm/status/822275984711745536

  75. NewChum

    I can see the comments already. Leyonhjelm has done nothing but damage his image and his cause.

    Who cares what a bunch of online warriors think?

    Punch back harder. Ask them if open borders is a good thing. Ask them if they are safer now than 5 years ago.

    Don’t cower before the lefts agenda. Don’t let them bully you into abandoning your position. Walked Aly called terrorism a ‘minor irritant’- what David L or anyone else says is nothing compared to that insult to terrorist victims – of which there are thousands and thousands, and piling up by the day.

  76. C.L.

    Arseface Andrews starting his presser.

    Let me guess.
    Andrews will somehow link this to children and sex.

  77. Gab

    Four children were run over , one is dead and another in critical condition.

  78. BoN;

    They just sprout out of nowhere.

    Buggered if I can see them Bruce, can you shoo those birds away and take another piccy?

  79. C.L.

    Oh, OK.
    Leyonhjelm’s tweet is fair enough.

  80. Hydra

    On bail for assault. This state is a crock of shit.

    Not to mentiom they were pursuing him with a chopper for a long time – I do not understand how this happened.

  81. Gab

    Confirmed: the 26 year-old male who mowed down pedestrians was out on bail.

  82. Tom

    Witness: “… he was watching the people and yelling Allah Akbar, Allah Akbar.”

    It’s always fucking Allah.

    And Dickhead Dan’s Marxist hoodlums have ordered the Pig State police force not to protect the public.

    Lots of money to be made trading illegal weapons in the next decade in this lawless disarmed communist shithole: you want protection, buy a gun.

  83. Hydra

    That is unconfirmed, Tom.

  84. Gab

    Leyonhjelm is really turning into a major disappointment. I had such high hopes for him but he’s too interested in playing tit for tat with leftards while the bodies are still warm.

  85. Anne

    This “too soon” nonsense is another example of us fighting fair and the left are fighting with knives.

    That’s BS, Dot.

    Lyenjholm is making a political point about guns not muslim jihad. If anything he is distracting from the problem that led to these murders:

    Muslim immigration and home grown converts to the depraved death cult of Islam.

    BAN ISLAM in the West!

  86. C.L.

    A little child is dead because a negligent arse-clown magistrate (almost certainly a Labor lawyer) freed the perpetrator. You wonder how much people can take before officials are dragged from buildings and publicly flogged.

  87. Infidel Tiger

    Yet another witness confirms “Allahu Akhbar” being shouted:

    https://twitter.com/AndieHamblin/status/822292159608983552

  88. Four children were run over , one is dead and another in critical condition.

    How many are going to die before our spineless politicians start taking action against islam. Islam is a deathcult not a religion, its mosques must all be shut down and every single last muslim deported
    .

  89. .

    What was he on bail for? Why did he get bail? Should have it been denied?

  90. Gab

    That’s the same video I put up, IT. Where’s the other witness?

  91. Infidel Tiger

    Just as well he had his seat belt on or these cops may have done something:

    https://twitter.com/Ban_asslam/status/822323351385350144

  92. Tel

    He then responded to another tweet by saying, “reacting to rogue car. They are building them with a mind of their own.”

    That’s very serious, there are examples of cars being hacked over the mobile network and the driver loses control. Most cars are already software controlled, essentially the driver is only pushing signals into the computer. Change the software and do whatever you like.

  93. Ubique

    The utterly disgraceful response of the Victorian police and most of the media is the sort of deranged green-left establishment behaviour that led to Trump being elected.

    The police and the media are yet again more concerned about the remote possibility of “a backlash” against Islam and the public cult of multiculturalism than they are about the protection from harm of ordinary Australians going peacefully about their business.

  94. Infidel Tiger

    That’s the same video I put up, IT. Where’s the other witness?

    I only check other people’s posts if they mention my name.

    I have zero interest in anything other people post.

    Sorry.

  95. Bruce of Newcastle

    Brilliant trolling by DL …

    Oh wow Vanessa Badham has not a single clue about muzzo terrorism or sarcasm.
    Is she ignorant, wilfully insane or just blind?

  96. C.L.

    Don’t know, Winston.
    There seem to be D Notices on a lot of names these days.

  97. Is the Melbourne CBD a known hangout for hipsters?
    Maybe a bit of reality has smacked these Green voting imbeciles across the face.
    Too bloody late for one and possibly two.

  98. Senile Old Guy

    his “too soon” nonsense is another example of us fighting fair and the left are fighting with knives.

    That’s BS, Dot. Lyenjholm is making a political point about guns not muslim jihad. If anything he is distracting from the problem that led to these murders: Muslim immigration and home grown converts to the depraved death cult of Islam.

    Exactly. Using a multiple murder by a Muslim to push his gun agenda.

    I’m not saying he should be censored. On the contrary, the more he posts stuff like this, the bigger d*ckhead he seems; which is fine by me.

  99. Infidel Tiger

    I was joking Gab. Too much going on to scroll.

  100. .

    They will post on twitter: “I’ll carpool with you”, and no one will bat an eyelid about being “too soon”.

  101. Tailgunner

    I only check other people’s posts if they mention my name.

    Lol!
    You’ve been on fire during this time of crisis, Tiges.

  102. Myrddin Seren

    Andrea Hamblin again

    Person in custody is a man of Greek background,…

    We must immediately seize the Hoonmobiles of all Greeks.

  103. Gab

    I was about to say that it explains why you often make the same comment as I, but about 10 minutes later, IT.

  104. .

    What’s your point, Senile Old Guy?

  105. Anthony

    After listening to the VicPol Commisar speak, I think I can hazard a guess that the person arrested for killing the people in the Melbourne CBD is a member of a known western suburbs crime family with middle-eastern connections. Terrorism takes many forms and these blokes invoke terror, not for any religious reasons, but simply because they can.

  106. Tailgunner

    How many are going to die before our spineless politicians start taking action against islam. Islam is a deathcult not a religion, its mosques must all be shut down and every single last muslim deported
    .

    +1 Zippy.
    Was just saying the exact thing to my girl. The scales are starting to fall from her eyes.
    I’m getting her a UPF membership for her birthday in July.

  107. Rev. Archibald

    The “too soon” stuff is a pack of shit.
    What it really means is: “don’t make your point while the example is fresh in everyone’s mind”.
    Or in other words “Shut up”!

  108. Armadillo

    Maybe a bit of reality has smacked these Green voting imbeciles across the face.

    The public transport opportunist will seize this opportunity to demand cars be banned from the CBD.

  109. Rabz

    Breaking – Official Statement by Dickhead Dan the CFMEU Caliphate Man:

    “This regrettable incident in Mosquebourne where a rogue car was impacted upon by pedestrians and which was not “terror related” is nothing that can’t be fixed by more enormous billboards featuring bag head bimbos being displayed prominently across both Victoriastan and other cities in Australia.”

  110. Rev. Archibald

    +1 Zippy.
    Was just saying the exact thing to my girl. The scales are starting to fall from her eyes.
    I’m getting her a UPF membership for her birthday in July.

    ..
    Hang on, Gunner.
    I thought you were a player.
    Live blogging dates and stuff.
    You have a girlfriend?

  111. Tom

    LOL. Gab’s Nobama clock has got ahead of itself. What a great clock. I want one.

  112. Gab

    “don’t make your point while the example is fresh in everyone’s mind”.

    Do you really believe this incident will be forgotten by tomorrow? Also, his comments and his timing do not advance his gun cause. They just make him appear callous and vacuous.

  113. incoherent rambler

    Four children were run over , one is dead and another in critical condition.

    Having experienced being run over by a motor vehicle, let me tell you that it is about as bad as it gets.

    If what is written above, is all true. i.e. the bail, the words spoken, I am now officially in a fighting mood.

    It ain’t right.

  114. Tintarella di Luna

    A little child is dead because a negligent arse-clown magistrate (almost certainly a Labor lawyer) freed the perpetrator. You wonder how much people can take before officials are dragged from buildings and publicly flogged.

    The phrase “known to police” is code for this is a known scumbag was now out on bail.

    How do we know without the investigation even beginning that this perpetrator was involved in a stabbing, was it a video film of a stabbing? Who said it had to do with a stabbing? The police brass? the politicians? I wouldnt’ believe anything the police brass and politicians say on anything, if they say anything at all.

    Why don’t we know anything more about the car/gas/bombing of the Australian Christian Lobby headquarters, just days from Christmas?

    The police are supposed to be above politics but they’re not, the police are supposed to protect and serve THE PEOPLE not the politicians – the government is contracted by the people to keep the peace, protect the people and dispense justice equally. – that makes the government of Daniel Andrews in breach of the civil contract between the people, it should be terminated and fresh elections held — hahahahahhahhah what a joke who would govern? The Liberal Party is dead and the Labor party is aiding and abetting the slaughter of innocents by lawless scum.

  115. Empire

    Is the Melbourne CBD a known hangout for hipsters?
    Maybe a bit of reality has smacked these Green voting imbeciles across the face.
    Too bloody late for one and possibly two.

    Nope. It was tourist/ school kids / family territory.

  116. littledozer

    Apparently, the police had chances to ram and take the car out but were denied permission……unfknbelieveable

  117. Tailgunner

    No,Rev – in the harem you have a “main girl” . For dinners,cheap holidays, free meals&clothes washing, girlfriendy stuff.
    Until she wants to ” have a talk”…can last months,or rarely,years.

  118. Armadillo

    I’m getting her a UPF membership for her birthday in July.

    Gunner, this doesn’t sound like you. Long term relationship? London to a brick you won’t be buying her a Valentines card.

  119. Gab

    And Leyonhjelm aping the Left is childish. I do recall many on here criticizing the Greens and Labor for using the same tactic. Suddenly, it’s all okay because DL does it.

    No different to the Left then, where it’s all about the tribe and not principles.

  120. After listening to the VicPol Commisar speak, I think I can hazard a guess that the person arrested for killing the people in the Melbourne CBD is a member of a known western suburbs crime family with middle-eastern connections. Terrorism takes many forms and these blokes invoke terror, not for any religious reasons, but simply because they can.

    Killing the kuffar is how wayward moslems cleanse their sins away.

  121. Ubique

    On what possible grounds have the police been so quick to say it’s not terrorism? Who can trust the cops anymore after this?

  122. incoherent rambler

    Pray for the kids and their parents.

    This is very ugly.

  123. Gab

    Oh great. turnbull now getting his media time in sounding all very theatrical and dramatic, like he’s auditioning for a role in a Shakespearean play. Anything but genuine.

  124. Stimpson J. Cat

    Was just saying the exact thing to my girl.

    Jesus Christ Gunner.
    Next you’ll be getting married and having bald mentally ill kids like me.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  125. Rev. Archibald

    Tailgunner
    #2268303, posted on January 20, 2017 at 5:50 pm
    No,Rev – in the harem you have a “main girl” . For dinners,cheap holidays, free meals&clothes washing, girlfriendy stuff.
    Until she wants to ” have a talk”…can last months,or rarely,years.

    ..
    I hope you catch the pox and your cock drops off.

  126. .

    Maybe you’re right Gab, your criticism is principled. Others were upset he wasn’t pushing the same agenda as them.

  127. rickw

    the government is contracted by the people to keep the peace, protect the people and dispense justice equally

    Government has forced its way into “peace and protection” and then has proceeded to fuck it up.

    Forced: try defending yourself.

    Fucked it up: policing is completely oversold, they are a mop up crew

  128. Tailgunner

    I hope you catch the pox and your cock drops off.

    I have a rare form of immunity. Handy!

  129. Gab

    Well I believe I am correct, Dot. Others can believe what they want. 🙂

  130. Tailgunner

    London to a brick you won’t be buying her a Valentines card.

    No cards,Arma. Nor flowers.
    Only lingerie.

  131. Tailgunner

    Jesus Christ Gunner.
    Next you’ll be getting married and having bald mentally ill kids like me.

    Calm down, Stimpson!
    More fake news around my comment than that coming out of the State mouthpieces over the rogue car incident!

  132. Tintarella di Luna

    Government has forced its way into “peace and protection” and then has proceeded to fuck it up.

    Yes indeed because politicians/government has politicised everything — the three arms have by and large become one-arm that’s beating the citizenry black and blue (I hope that’s not construed as racist)

  133. rickw

    On what possible grounds have the police been so quick to say it’s not terrorism? Who can trust the cops anymore after this?

    Most old school police would have said that you should have stopped trusting Vicpol in the 1980’s. The good ones were genuinely embarrassed at their role in promoting firearm registration which ultimately led to confiscation with full support of senior police.

  134. Anne

    This jihadi may have been allocated Prison Da’wah duty.

  135. Stimpson J. Cat

    Malcolm Roberts just deleted his Tweet.
    These f☆cking idiots couldn’t plan a pissup in a brothel.
    So much for standing firm.
    Dot slap this pair of c☆nts into shape please.

  136. Rev. Archibald

    Malcolm Roberts just deleted his Tweet.

    ..
    God.
    They have learnt nothing from Trump at all.
    Rewarding the scum by complying simply encourages them to increase their screaming tantrums next time.
    Idiots.

  137. Bruce of Newcastle

    Seven’s coverage shows witness (appeared to be a tourist) animatedly saying the perp was crying Snackbar.

    Vicpol boringly say the perp has “mental health and drug issues”.

    Pull the other one it has bells on. Do you people think we’re stupid?

  138. memoryvault

    On what possible grounds have the police been so quick to say it’s not terrorism?

    That’s easy, Ubique.
    The word “terrorism” has been redefined. Today it is not “terrorism” unless:

    1) – It involves more than one person (otherwise it’s a mentally deranged “lone wolf”).
    2) – Participants are card-carrying members of ISIS or similar.
    3) – They claim to be acting for the cause of ISIS or similar.
    4) – ISIS or similar claim credit for the act.
    5) – The act involves taking hostages or blowing stuff up, or both.

    Trying to fight this change in meaning is pointless. We need a new term. One that accurately describes what was done, and by whom. I suggest:

    Fanatical Muslim Violence.

    This can’t spin-doctored into anything else. The guy is obviously a fanatic. He’s been confirmed as a Muslim, and the act was unquestionably violent.

  139. Armadillo

    This girl of Gunners sounds a bit needy. He’s probably best to dump her now and cut his losses. Night clubs are open tonight. Ditch the bitch.

  140. Stimpson J. Cat

    Why am I always right and sane people are wrong?
    It’s frustrating.
    Sad.

  141. C.L.

    Apparently, the police had chances to ram and take the car out but were denied permission …

    Workplace health & safety.

  142. Stimpson J. Cat

    Look out for scary senator ldp clowns everybody!
    On the rampage!

  143. calli

    I bet the poor buggers in front of the car felt “terror”.

    It isn’t random. He deliberately drove down a footpath intent on murder. Regardless of “drugs” and “family violence”.

    We’ll know as soon as his name is released.

  144. rickw

    Apparently, the police had chances to ram and take the car out but were denied permission……unfknbelieveable

    Last week I was almost involved in a head on because the fuckwits were involved in a chase with no siren on. Car being persued does a RH turn short cutting the roundabout towards me, WTF?, then eventually the tards in blue came around the corner, sans siren. If I had of heard a siren it would have given context to the lunatic driving and I wouldn’t have been so keen to avoid a prang.

  145. C.L.

    Dead-pan in the latest Hollyood Reporter:

    Sundance Braces for Snow and Chilly Weather on Opening Weekend.

    The festival locale sank to below-freezing temperatures ahead of Thursday’s opening-night film An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power, Al Gore’s climate-change follow-up to 2006’s An Inconvenient Truth.

  146. rickw

    We’ll know as soon as his name is released.

    I hope we also learn what mosque he attended so it can be razed and the imam deported.

  147. incoherent rambler

    Apparently, the police had chances to ram and take the car out …

    Try that again, in say Louisiana. A lot of bullet holes in the car and its driver. Probably a few days ago.

  148. Stackja

    calli – name of ACL terrorist? Vic may hide name?

  149. calli

    Sneering Mike Amor describes the concert at Lincoln Memorial as “more like a rock eisteddfod”. And “the crowd not nearly as big as Obama’s”.

    What a plick.

  150. incoherent rambler

    Are we sure the ACL guy is still in hospital?

  151. rickw

    Gunner, how’s the Trump Gear order going?!

  152. calli

    Sad old “A” listers in NYC sleet bitching about Trump. Cher, de Niro and Baldwin.

    Pathetic.

  153. Tel

    Exactly. Using a multiple murder by a Muslim to push his gun agenda.

    You don’t see too many multiple murders happen in the carpark outside a Texas gun club. Lesson there?

    You do see a lot of multiple murders in those “Gun free zones” where law abiding people have been disarmed. Something in that perhaps?

    I wonder what did finally put a stop to this crazy driver in Melbourne. Probably someone waved a spoon at him. That usually does the job.

  154. Myrddin Seren

    An unhinged Greek Islamic

    Stimps – are you able to provide us with a translation of Jimmy Gargasoulas’s political manifesto from ice-addict in to English ?

  155. Infidel Tiger

    Apparently, the police had chances to ram and take the car out but were denied permission …

    Just as well he hadn’t tried to avoid a booze bus. He’d be riddled with bullets and labelled a terrorist.

  156. Bruce of Newcastle

    Liberty quote for the day:

    “Tomorrow we have a speech. It may rain. It might not rain — around 12:00. The truth is if it really pours, that’s OK because people will realize it’s my real hair and that’s okay. Might be a mess, but it’s my real hair,”

    – Donald Trump talking about his Inauguration Speech

    h/t 7news just now

  157. Stackja

    IR – ACL terrorist maybe back in Canberra?

  158. Bruce of Newcastle

    The festival locale sank to below-freezing temperatures ahead of Thursday’s opening-night film An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power, Al Gore’s climate-change follow-up to 2006’s An Inconvenient Truth.

    The Gore Effect! Bwahahahaha!

  159. Senile Old Guy

    The Guardian:

    The road to President Trump was long and bumpy. There were many turns not taken, countless alternative routes that would have spared us this outcome. Instead, we kept going, corruption, infighting and sheer obliviousness stopping us changing course.

    So far so good.

    What could have been different? There are a thousand possibilities. You could start with the long decay of the US news media into a branch of the entertainment industry, primed to seize on Trump’s celebrity. A wiser society would have demanded better, resisted more vocally, criticised more intelligently.

    A ‘wiser society’ decided, ‘wisely’, to completely ignore the MSM spruiking the corrupt Clinton, including The Guardian. If the MSM had ignored Trump, they would have been even more irrelevant.

    Or the rise of Silicon Valley, its hypercapitalist, libertarian ethos helping to weaken traditional sources of information.

    So far, so bad. The ‘traditional sources of information’ weakened themselves by going relentlessly left wing and crusading for SJW causes.

    We now suffer pandemic attention deficit disorder, fake news, hackable everything, cyberwar, and social media bullies, of whom Trump is bully-in-chief. An internet run as a public commons rather than an ad-driven free-for-all would have had very different social consequences. We missed that turning long ago.

    Ah! An internet run as a ‘public commons’ would immediately involve censorship of anything not left wing, as Twitter and Facebook demonstrate.

  160. Anne

    Ditch the bitch.

    Lol. Thanks for that little bit of levity in a horrible day, Arma.

  161. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimps – are you able to provide us with a translation of Jimmy Gargasoulas’s political manifesto from ice-addict in to English ?

    Translation:

    “WAH WAH I’M A POOR ETHNIC WHO WAXES WAH CONCRETE WAH BRO WAH WAH ANGEL WAH GOD WAH WAH MALAKA WAH WAH BRO F☆CKING.”

  162. Terrorism is most simply defined as politically motivated violence.

    Case in point: A muslim yelling allahu akbar while drving a car into innocent shoppers with the intent to kill, is an act of terror.

  163. Leigh Lowe

    Apparently, the police had chances to ram and take the car out …

    Watch the footage of the laps at the Flinders/Swanston intersection on Sky.
    As he does the last one before he heads off up Swanston St a grey Commodore comes nose to nose with him.
    He is facing west in the normal position for a westbound car facing down Flinders. The grey Commodore is facing East in the wrong lane on the wrong side of a tram super-stop.
    That is clearly Plod.
    As he heads off down Swanston St two (2) identical grey Commodores follow him.
    If Plod had simply gunned his car straight into this dick, and some of the 15 Plod stationed at the Police outpost just twenty metres along the St Kilda Rd side of the station tackled him, three people would still be alive.
    Oh, and I don’t blame the Plid in the cars.
    I blame the fuckwits like Fatty Ashton who are so preoccupied in finding if a priest might have had a shower naked in a surf club thirty years ago rather than taking the long handle to fuckwits like Red Commodore guy.

  164. Ubique

    Has there ever been a President so vaunted at the outset, who promised so much and delivered so little? With eight years of US decline now behind him, the Middle East in flames and his legacy in complete tatters, Obama’s mouth must be full of ashes.

  165. Mother Lode

    With regards to Alcoa: So government has, with its regulations and intefrence in the energy market for the gigantic, bird-smashing pinwheels, made Alcoa unviable.

    Government then turns up and gives money to help unviable Alcoa.

    All this is done in accordance with government whim.

    It is like a controlled economy – except previous ones at least, however clumsily, were directed to provide products for consumers.

    You can’t even say that for the current situation.

    Turdbull should be taking the Victorian government to task for creating a state problem and demanding a federal solution.

    He really is a piece of shit.

    (Apologies to dollops of shit everywhere.)

  166. Fisky

    OK, so it looks like this individual does have Islamic terrorist sympathies. But it also appears that they are generally unhinged and possibly a drug addict.

  167. jupes

    The Liberal Party is dead and the Labor party is aiding and abetting the slaughter of innocents by lawless scum.

    Both parties support a non-discriminatory immigration policy.

    They fucking brag about it.

  168. memoryvault

    Terrorism is most simply defined as politically motivated violence.

    Not disputed, Riccardo. Nonetheless, application of the word has been hijacked.
    Remember when being described as “discriminating” was a compliment?
    Same same.

    In future I’m sticking with my “Fanatical Muslim Violence” for the reasons cited above.

  169. Infidel Tiger

    Derryn Hinch tweeting that the two cent pieces had 7 chances to ram him but were denied permission.

    It’s the Lindt Cafe all over again.

  170. Joe

    Ubique:

    With eight years of US decline now behind him, the Middle East in flames and his legacy in complete tatters, Obama’s mouth must be full of ashes.

    Nonsense, Obama has achieved EXACTLY what he set out to do.

  171. Senile Old Guy

    The Australian Open tweets:

    Due to an incident in Melbourne’s CBD, trams are experiencing major disruptions. Trams now terminating cnr Flinders & Russell.

    ‘an incident’

  172. johanna

    “he sounds unhinged” – straight out of the MSM/GOP playbook. Didn’t know you wore a bowtie, Gab.

    Someone has gone off script! Alert! Alert!

    I don’t think that it was a particularly brilliant comment, but the response of some people here has been a revelation.

  173. Mother Lode

    Has there ever been a President so vaunted at the outset, who promised so much and delivered so little?

    I was going to say he was a K-Tel president, except the record rack did actually do what was promised.

    He is more like ‘President Sea-Monkeys’.

  174. Mother Lode

    But it also appears that they are generally unhinged and possibly a drug addict.

    You do know the etymology of the word ‘assassin’, don’t you?

  175. Myrddin Seren

    Translation:

    “WAH WAH I’M A POOR ETHNIC WHO WAXES WAH CONCRETE WAH BRO WAH WAH ANGEL WAH GOD WAH WAH MALAKA WAH WAH BRO F☆CKING.”

    Thank you Stimpy.

    I strongly suggest his lawyer does not allow him to take the stand at the trial.

  176. Stackja

    Jihadists are unhinged!

  177. Stimpson J. Cat

    How the f☆ck would any of you rabble know if he was crazy?
    Leave the grandiose posturing to straitjacket experts like me thank you very much.

    Know your f☆cking role.

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    Lindt café all over again.

  179. C.L.

    The police trick is to link an incident to something domestic or personal – something that has happened earlier – and then insist that, ergo, the incident has nothing to do with terrorism.

    This is EXACTLY what they did in relation to Man Monis.

    Charged with being an accessory to murder, released on bail … etcetera.

    Nothing to do with terrorism. Right?

  180. Leo G

    Richard Di Natale‏ @RichardDiNatale
    Horrible scene in #Melbourne CBD. My heart goes out to the victims and everyone impacted by this tragedy
    3:09 PM · Jan 20, 2017

    Richard shows such a keen sense of what to say to avoid offending- the kind of skill in dealing with delicate situations we have come to expect from the Greens.

  181. rickw

    ‘an incident’

    An example of how good the fake news is: Thai language on line news reporting with 100% certainty that there was an accident and it is definitely not terrorism related.

  182. Senile Old Guy

    Turnbull tweets:

    Our prayers and deepest sympathy are with the victims & their families, of this vicious criminal attack in Bourke St Melbourne today.

    Pathetic. Multiple murders, and attempted murders, are now a ‘criminal attack’.

  183. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, snap IT. I was thinking about it all and wrote without scrolling up.

  184. Apparently, the police had chances to ram and take the car out but were denied permission

    They need permission before they take emergency action to stop someone who is killing people?

  185. Infidel Tiger

    I was thinking about it all and wrote without scrolling up.

    Scrolling is for Communists.

  186. Fisky

    There are different shades of “Allahu Akbar”.

    First, there’s “Allahu Akbar!” in the service of particular goals of the Islamic State. We have seen that all over Europe in the last 2 years.

    But riding on the back of that meme is also “lizard people allahu akbar chemtrails abkar FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKA KANYE WEST” stream-of-consciousness ranting by people who are primarily mentally ill.

    And in between that, we have jihadist recruits who are put on methamphetamines because it makes them more dangerous.

    Different shades of involvement. The main thing is that ISIS have started a franchise that anyone can buy into.

  187. egg_

    An unhinged Greek Islamic

    Known to Police, as stated by them.
    VicPol worst plod in the world?

  188. Infidel Tiger

    Strange how all the lunatics gravitate towards Islam.

  189. 2dogs

    I am finding this article hard to believe. Is it fake?

  190. Baldrick

    Case in point: A muslim yelling allahu akbar while drving a car into innocent shoppers with the intent to kill, is an act of terror.

    Ah yes but I think Sydney Lord Mayor Clover Mooreon was the first Australian politician to utter the phrase, “(insert name of incident here)”, was not terrorist related.”

  191. Dan Phillips

    OK, so it looks like this individual does have Islamic terrorist sympathies. But it also appears that they are generally unhinged and possibly a drug addict.

    I can’t comment about this particular guy, but it is often precisely these “bad” Muslims who flip out and become terrorists, ones who drink alcohol, eat bacon, or do whatever it is that is considered sinful in Islam. There is no guaranteed redemption in Islam, no guaranteed forgiveness of sins, except to die while committing jihad. That’s the only surefire way of getting into Paradise. That’s why they flip out, because they feel such shame at being bad Muslims.

  192. calli

    The main thing is that ISIS have started a franchise that anyone can buy into.

    Yes, Fisky. In a nutshell.

  193. Stimpson J. Cat

    But riding on the back of that meme is also “lizard people allahu akbar chemtrails abkar FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKA KANYE WEST” stream-of-consciousness ranting by people who are primarily mentally ill.

    Oh f☆ck you Fisk you go too far!
    How dare you?!
    F☆cking racist!

  194. Baldrick

    It’s always the Left that want to subvert democracy …

    Michael Moore @MMFlint
    Thousands filled CentralParkWest tonight to tell Trump he’s not going to get away with any of it. (Pic: me w/ DeNiro)

  195. Stimpson J. Cat

    Lies.
    As if mental illness has anything to do with, or is in anyway related to Islam.
    You poor deluded wannabe crazy fools.
    Ridiculous.

  196. B Shaw

    Well said, David Leyonhjelm.
    You are absolutely correct.

  197. egg_

    Michael Moore @MMFlint
    Thousands filled CentralParkWest tonight to tell Trump he’s not going to get away with any of it.

    Better get in line for a burger before Moore hits the stands?

  198. Stackja

    IT – lunacy goes in cycles. 20th Century Stalin/Hitler/Mao now main attraction is Moism.

  199. Myrddin Seren

    Stimpy

    Scroll up:

    Jihadists are unhinged!

    Are you sure you aren’t a jihadist ? Do you ever have urges to rent a Budget truck ??

  200. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspreeklike

    Strange how all the lunatics gravitate towards Islam

    A religion founded by a psychopath and a peedophile? Why not?

  201. john constantine

    Control their language and you control their thinking.

    Thus we have their abc wymynsys this afternoon referring to the:

    “police incident”

    They no longer have access to the language to verbalise forbidden thoughts, so they don’t even realise there is a hole in reality.

  202. rickw

    OK, so it looks like this individual does have Islamic terrorist sympathies. But it also appears that they are generally unhinged and possibly a drug addict.

    muslim / unhinged/ drug addict is not a particularly unique combination.

  203. Stackja

    Mo invented Islam to control people. Mo made headway!

  204. Rev. Archibald

    Our media and politicians are a disgrace.

  205. Leo G

    A muslim yelling allahu akbar while drving a car into innocent shoppers with the intent to kill, is an act of terror.

    The defining characteristicsof terrorism is the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce.
    The police failure to call terrorism by its name amplifies the public intimidation. The public violence was clearly an act of terrorism, regardless of the state of mind or intent of the terrorist.

  206. Baldrick

    What we know so far …

    A muslim,
    In a stolen car,
    Uses it as a weapon,
    To run down and kill 4 and injured 20+ innocent people

    … which is not terror related.

  207. King Koala

    Exactly. Using a multiple murder by a Muslim to push his gun agenda.

    Remember when a muslim tried to allah ackbar a cartoon display in Texas and the Texans shot him….

  208. Rev. Archibald

    That it takes private citizens on social media to ferret out the truth about a perpetrator while the paid for media whores run interference for the establishment tells you this: we need a revolution.
    Join the revolution, man.

  209. Anne

    The Twitter Account that showed the tourist reporting he heard “Allahu Akbar” is no longer visible.

    I wonder if VicPolice got to her.

    Three Stages of Jihad:
    1. Immigrate. Into Western Nations
    2. Infiltrate. Western Governments
    3. Caliphate. Implement Sharia Law.

  210. Bruce of Newcastle

    I am finding this article hard to believe. Is it fake?

    Dunno, but they were selling shedloads of oil to Erdogan’s son. Which is fun since Erdogan is supposed to be at war with East Asia oops ISIS.

    Enemy of my enemy is my etc. That there oil ain’t gonna sell itself.

  211. rickw

    I am finding this article hard to believe. Is it fake?

    Possibly not, when I was in Northern Iraq I noticed large numbers of fuel tankers going the “wrong way”. When I asked about it, they said that they were refined fuels heading to ISIS, this was very much to my surprise. On further reflection, seems plausible, I don’t think ISIS captured a refinery, nor would they be capable of running it, and those Toyota’s don’t run on air.

    Apparently in MENA war and business are seen as completely unrelated activities.

  212. Stimpson J. Cat

    F☆ck you lot are annoying.
    Islam is no more crazy than any other religion.
    It has very specific ideas and objectives.
    The majority of people believe in it simply due to nurture and geography.
    Like most religions.
    I prefer Jesus because he stops people stoning hookers.
    Jesus loves hookers.

  213. Stackja

    Christmas plotters arrested. Now what?

  214. You do know the etymology of the word ‘assassin’, don’t you?

    without googling it, something to do with hashish?

  215. Gab

    A muslim,
    In a stolen car,
    Uses it as a weapon,
    To run down and kill

    In the same style as the arabs did in Israel.

  216. Caveman

    8hrs 37mins , they steppin it up going full retard. Sky have some 4 eyes cout in a lowes tracky smakin his wad about Trump.

  217. Zyconoclast

    In future I’m sticking with my “Fanatical Muslim Violence” for the reasons cited above.

    You may need to reconsider this.
    It can be abbreviated to mean FMV = F*cking Memory Vault.

  218. Hydra

    Do we know he is a muslim? He is greek/tongan. His name is Dimitrious Gargasoulas. Check his facebook profile status from 4 days ago.

    News.com.au claiming he returned to the scene of the earlier stabbing while a channel 9 reporter was there and police were still there.possibly the biggest police cock up of all time, this thing.

  219. Fleeced

    CNN casually mentioning that the “designated survivor” during the Inauguration is an Obama appointee. Not “fake news” as such, just wishful thinking? Hoping for change? Just putting the idea out there?

    CNN has been criticized for airing a report which revealed that an Obama appointee would become president if Donald Trump was killed during an attack on the inauguration tomorrow.

    Entitled Disaster could put Obama cabinet member in Oval Office, the report admits that there is no specific threat targeting the inauguration, but goes on to speculate about “who would be in charge if an attack hit the incoming president….just as the transfer of power is underway”.

  220. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Twitter Account that showed the tourist reporting he heard “Allahu Akbar” is no longer visible.

    On Youtube thanks to a conservative Aussie journo called Caleb Stephen. Well done sir.

    I went through 6 or 8 Seven News vids trying for the one which was on the 6pm news which had the same footage – nope. Gone.

  221. Zyconoclast

    I am finding this article hard to believe. Is it fake?

    It’s believable NATO paid (still pays) the Taliban to help them move stuff through the mountains.
    They briefly pause hostilities, do the deal and then start shooting at each other. Win-win?

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/12a1dbb0-d0be-11de-af9c-00144feabdc0.html?ft_site=falcon&desktop=true#axzz4WHy9XeQ7

  222. Leigh Lowe

    They need permission before they take emergency action to stop someone who is killing people?

    Yep.
    SJW lawyers in Victorianistan have spread the myth of “dangerous Police chases” and, in league with soft-cock pollies and lefty Police Commissioners, have basically outlawed Police pursuits.
    And when I say pursuits, I mean ANY pursuit.
    If a bunch of JBs hijack a BMW in a 60 kmh zone with Plod 50 metres behind them, as soon as they accelerate to 80 kmh, the (cough) “chase” is over.
    The only two blokes who showed any interest in stopping this cnut today before he killed people were a couple of guys with a baseball bat at the corner of Flinders and Swanston whilst at least five coppers were spectators.

  223. Hydra

    Sorry my apologies I did not see his tweet.

  224. Leigh Lowe

    They need permission before they take emergency action to stop someone who is killing people?

    Yep.
    SJW lawyers in Victorianistan have spread the myth of “dangerous Police chases” and, in league with soft-cock pollies and lefty Police Commissioners, have basically outlawed Police pursuits.
    And when I say pursuits, I mean ANY pursuit.
    If a bunch of JBs hijack a BMW in a 60 kmh zone with Plod 50 metres behind them, as soon as they accelerate to 80 kmh, the (cough) “chase” is over.
    The only two blokes who showed any interest in stopping this c n u t today before he killed people were a couple of guys with a baseball bat at the corner of Flinders and Swanston whilst at least five coppers were spectators.

  225. Zyconoclast

    SJW lawyers in Victorianistan have spread the myth of “dangerous Police chases”

    They are dangerous.
    To the criminals.

  226. P

    Islam is no more crazy than any other religion.

    I’d never argue with you Stimpy.

    You are though here IMHO absolutely wrong. 100% wrong.

    Cheers.

  227. Senile Old Guy

    So in both Sydney and, now Melbourne, civilians ended up dead because the police held off taking down the terrorist? In both cases, civilians had to save their own lives because the police did not?

  228. Leigh Lowe

    Most importantly, Fatty and Hunchback shared the stage at their presser with an earnest deaf-signing lady.
    I am sooooo fucking reassured.

  229. Senile Old Guy

    Turnbull’s media release on Melbourne:

    The prayers and heartfelt sympathies of all Australians are with the victims and the families of the victims of this shocking crime in Melbourne today.

    And we thank and acknowledge the heroism, the professionalism of the police and the emergency workers who rushed to the aid of the victims.

    Joined by bystanders who mindless of their own danger sought to help those who had been attacked in this shocking crime.

    Their love, their selflessness, their courage is the very best of our Australian sprit.

    ‘shocking crime’

    Utterly, utterly pathetic. What a spineless jerk. No mention of Islam, Muslims, terrorism, murder or attempted murder. I despise this utterly contemptible waste of space.

  230. Bruce of Newcastle

    I don’t think ISIS captured a refinery, nor would they be capable of running it, and those Toyota’s don’t run on air.

    They had lots of mobile refineries but the USAF kept dissembling them fairly dynamically..
    Whoever was selling them the mobile refineries must’ve made a motza.

    U.S. Steps Up Its Attacks on ISIS-Controlled Oil Fields in Syria (NYT 12/11/15)

    In the air campaign’s first three months, for instance, allied warplanes damaged or destroyed more than two dozen smaller mobile refineries and about twice as many collection points where drivers dump their crude oil to be hauled to refineries.

    Is ISIS Using Alibaba To Buy Mobile Refineries From Turkey? (ZH 27/9/14)

    So the US is targeting ISIS’ mobile refineries as a way of “halting” the organization’s funding? Great. But where does ISIS buy these refineries: after all while the US provided all the weapons, arms and munitions ISIS has and is using against, well, the US, one assumes not even America was deploying mobile refineries in Iraq and Syria: after all Haliburton and Bechtel get paid much more when they make the “fixed”, CapEx-soaking versions.

    Well, one place is, drumroll, everyone’s favorite biggest IPO of all time. That’s right, Alibaba

    Hehe, the Chinese seemingly will sell anything to anyone, for the right price.

  231. Baldrick

    Gab, the video poster, you originally linked to …

    Andrea Hamblin @AndieHamblin
    Police have asked me take down this video of man speaking to journos at scene.They’re concerned it makes ppl believe it was a terror event.

  232. memoryvault

    It can be abbreviated to mean FMV = F*cking Memory Vault.

    In the interests of accurate reporting, I can live with that.
    I’ve been called far worse here on the Cat.

  233. Senile Old Guy

    Why am I doing this? Turnbull on Alcoa, media release:

    The Turnbull Government welcomes the announcement today that the Alcoa Portland Aluminium Smelter will remain open into the next decade. This is great news for the workers at the Alcoa smelter and the community of Portland. A power supply failure to Alcoa last month caused damage to production lines and significantly reduced the operating capacity of the smelter.

    No mention of why there was a ‘power supply failure’. Or that LNP policies, pushed by Turnbull, were directly responsible for driving up the price of electricity; this being one factor why it was not economic (without a $30 million taxpayer bailout) for Alcoa to keep running.

  234. Andrew

    The ultimate power station has a man and a dog watching the output. The dog is there to bite the man if he tries to do any work. That would make for a very rich society.

    The dog bites the man if he yells Allahu Akhbar

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