“How is it playing out in Australia?”

That one’s from Canada, and this is from an old mate in the US: “What does the Australian press have to say about this?” These were their entire messages.

What “it” and “this” are no one needed to tell me. But truly how stupid do you have to be to have made an arrangement with Obama after the election to send boat people from Nauru and Manus to the US? If Malcolm believed he was going to get points for having stood up to the US against Trump, as clueless as I have always thought him, he has plumbed levels of stupidity and political incompetence until now unimaginable. From The Australian:

Australia’s alliance with the US has hit its lowest point in decades, in a clash over a divisive refugee deal that led Donald Trump to ­berate Malcolm Turnbull in priv­ate before staging a public retreat from the agreement.

This morning the President has said he loves Australia and will “respect” the deal, but that nations are taking advantage of the US. White House spokesman Sean Spicer said his boss was “unbelievably disappointed” about the “horrible deal” and that refugees will only be allowed in the US if they pass extreme vetting. But Mr Trump’s top officials have tried to smooth over the rift, holding a meeting with ambassador Joe Hockey.

For Malcolm apparently to have tried to push Trump, by telling him that as a fellow businessman that a deal is a deal, must rank as politically incompetent as anything I have ever seen. That Trump now thinks of Malcolm as a flea-weight no-account fool only means he has the same assessment of the PM as the rest of us.

UPDATE WITH COMMENTS ON THE ARTICLE FROM THE OZ: There are now 830 comments on the linked article, and these are the top 22 in order from the list ordered according to “Top Comments” and there was no need to have stopped there.

1) Chronology is important here.

1. 10 months out from US presidential election, Turnbull visits US. He meets Hillary and snubs Trump.
2. In the weeks leading up to US presidential election, Turnbull does a deal with a dead duck President.
3. Turnbull and Obama agree to not announce it (hide the deal) until the US presedential election is over. They both want Hillary to get up, and the deal would be excellent ammunition for Trump in a campaign dominated by illegal immigration.
4. Trump wins. Turnbull panics.
5. Turnbull has to call Greg Norman to find out how to get in touch with Trump.
6. Turnbull announces deal publicly 5 days later, and before he has spoken to Trump about it.
7. Trump understandably gives him a smack down on the phone.
8. Turnbull spins the phone call, and in desperation to announce something good in his otherwise failing Prime Ministership, announces the deal as done.
9. Trump is annoyed that Turnbull couldn’t keep quiet. Trump has been placed in a contradictory position that could damage him politically.
10. Trump gives Turnbull a smack down on Twitter, and leaks the phone call to return the favour.

The problem exists because of Turnbull, and Turnbull alone.
– At no point has Turnbulll invested in a personal relationship with Trump. Mostly because he exists in the same elitist bubble as people who predicted a thumping Hillary win.
– He did a sneaky deal with left wingers and helped hide it from voters in the US.
– He then tried to pump his own political fortunes up and didn’t care about the damage it might do to Trump.

Turnbull has to go. He is damaging the Liberal party and the nation.

2) I feel sympathy for Trump. Why should he in the American interest accept these illegal boat people who came to this country largely for economic opportunism, they have rampaged, trashed Manus island, we won’t take them, so why should Trump call on the American taxpayer to live in America?

3) Greg Sheridan in his column today notes, Trump’s reluctance to commit to actual numbers to be resettled in the US from Manus Island or Nauru is no different from Obama’s. The Obama administration gave Turnbull an “announceable”, a media event, a virtual solution to the resettlement issue which itself did not guarantee that the US would take a single person unless it was satisfied through its own vetting procedures.

Trump is right to ask “why”? What’s in it for America? He should take all the time he needs to scrutinise this “virtual solution”.

4) Australia just keeps creating more problems for itself, by not enforcing its border laws on illegal immigrants. If they have been vetted and found to be unsuitable they should be deported.

5) This was a deal cooked up by Turnbull and Obama in the interim period between Trump winning the US election and actually taking up Office. It was very similar to Gillard’s NDIS policy, made just before she went out the door, a little bomblet if you like, to tickle up the new lot when they get in. Gillard was never going to have to take responsibility for the NDIS much like Obama with the refugee deal. What Turnbull didn’t reckon on was how Trump was going to react to what he knew was a stitch up. You are the one who blew it Malcolm, you knew Obama was gone, why did you make this deal with a bloke who was literally gone? Also, where the hell us Bishop in all this? Attending gala functions???? That will help!

6) Aubsolutely. Why Turnbull would do a deal with a outgoing President, knowing full well the incoming President’s attitude to illegal immigration, is anybodies guess. You don’t have to be real smart to work out Obama left it as a time bomb, why didn’t Turnbull recognise that? So the new President gets a call from a PM who arrogantly ignored him, as a Clinton Supporter, and on Trump’s win, asks Australia to ” stay calm” and then expects Trump to be jolly and happy about piling a bunch of economic refugees Australia does not want, into the US? Turnbull once more has shown his inability to judge the scene, and his arrogance in not being able to get it. How embarrassing for our country.

7) Of course this is a super Dumb deal. If Trump takes refugees then its a Green light to refugees to flee to Australia in hope of to getting to USA . If Trump vets and refuses to take them then nobody else in the world will take. Turnbull actions during President Elect period, fully knowing Trump stance on refugees showed no respect to incoming new President Trump and has turned a good relation to a shaky relationship. It is Turnbull who is sneaky and tricky , his Obama deal during President Elect period was poor timing, disrespectful to an incoming President and whatever the outcome not in the interest of Australia in any way.

8) This agreement was made after Trump was elected. Obama signed off on it to cause trouble for Trump. For such a highly intelligent person, couldn’t Turnbull see how this would affect Australia once Trump took charge.

9) I think Obama agreeing to the deal was a practical joke aimed at his successor, and it has worked. Turnbull thinks he was clever to get it through but he was a stooge in a practical joke.

10) I’m embarrassed as an Australian because it seems to me that Turnbull took an opportunity to offload the costly and potentially dangerous fallout from the ALP/Greens’ huge mistake onto a friendly neighbour by cynically enabling Obama’s typically unpatriotic, petulant lefty ploy to leave a landline for Trump. Like any good neighbour, Trump has to accept the steaming bucket of poop because it would be rude not to. Too clever by half, Turnbull. Did I mention that I feel embarrassed? Ashamed might be a more apt description.

11) Smart move now is for Turnbull to ring Trump and unilaterally revoke the deal. Why should we call on the US to bail us out of a relatively simple problem just because Turnbull can’t face up to The Greens and the rest of the open border mob? He’s putting the civil rights of 1250 detainees ahead of the security of the electorate. These are illegal immigrants, not refugees. If they don’t pass our security clearances, ship them back to their countries of origin. If the country of origin won’t take them, send them to the first country that gave them residency before they travelled onwards to Australia.

12) Just deport them. They flew into Indonesia then ditched their documentation before setting sail for Australia. They are criminals. What about the genuine refugees sitting in tents all over the world with no food or air conditioning.

13) Of course it’s a dumb deal for America. You have to wonder why Obama did it? What advantage is it to America?

14) This is not the first time Obama threw Australia under the bus for his own domestic political agenda. Remember his speech at University of QLD in 2014 with its thinly veiled castigation of the Abbott government for it’s stance on global warming while comparing it to the US’ achievements in carbon abatement? All conveniently neglecting to mention that a significant reason for the US’ carbon reduction was the use of coal seam gas obtained through hydraulic fracturing.

The goal was to use Australia as a whipping boy (wanting his daughters to be able to visit the barrier reef in the future) so he could prove his climate change credentials back home. But at the same time, he ruled out any show of political support for the efforts of the democratically elected government of his closest ally to do exactly what the US was doing…fracking!

15) It IS a stupid deal. It shows the Liberal Government caving in to the refugee industry. People on Nauru and Manus can go home or stay where they are.

16) Obama set this up as timebomb, and Turnbull walked into it. There is no point in blaming Trump, for the arrogance and stupidity of Obama and Turnbull, two men who knew well the attitude Trump has towards illegal refugees. Once more poor judgement from Turnbull, as Obama has the last laugh. We don’t want a bunch of economic refugees dumped on us, nor surprisingly does the US. Yet because of this deal by these two fools, they have to take them. Angry? Trump has every right to be outraged.

17) I would keep out of it Bill. Trump would make mincemeat of you. Even your Union thugs would look like choir girls, up against this bloke. Just sit back and watch the fun.

18) This is not about Trump. It is about Turnbull and Bishop with the connivence of Obama trying to pull a swifty after Trump was elected, and to leave a behind a hand grenade to embarrass him into accepting the refugees. Their arrogance is astounding.

Well, it back fired and will sound the end of Turnbull. He was less than honest with the people on reporting his conversation with Trump. This will force Corey Bernadi’s hand as the liberal/national coalition is domed. Pauling Hanson is now likely to win a majority in both Queensland and WA. People have had enough, one nation may not be the complete answer, but it is an answer. I feel extremly sorry for Peter Dutton in all this, the unsung hero of the government.

Its telling that Bishop has gone into hiding.

19) Never going to be easy in the first few months when you have to clean up Barack Obamas mess.Who would take 1250 people without passports…I agree with Trump it is a Bum deal. Turnbull is fortunate Trump has said he is prepared to proceed.

We should not forget Turnbull on his first visit to America laughed at the thought of Trump becoming President. Malcom met with Clinton and Rubio.

20) Oh get over it ! If we are so touchy that we can’t take a robust phone call from a new and besieged President over what is not an inconsiderable number of illegals, then it is we who need to toughen up. Political correctness is out and straight talking is in, and about time. At least Trump didn’t call Turnbull, barking mad, as Shorten called Trump. I would say that Turnbull was used by Obama to get one in on Trump, and Turnbull believed him.

21) Its all an act .
Donald Trump will Honour it as he knows a deal is a deal .
He doesn’t want to upset Australia so he is pretending to be outrage so it will look good domestically for him.
He has to look tough on refugees no matter where they come from

22) While the media choose to write negative articles about Trump, the real story in all of this is that Turnbull is so thoroughly out of his depth he is in danger of drowning. It was Turnbull who went to the US cozying up to Obama and Clinton (not even understanding the Trump just might win the election); it was Turnbull who did this deal with a President who was packing up to leave!

Who is the incompetent politician in this debacle – his name is Turnbull.

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156 Responses to “How is it playing out in Australia?”

  1. Tintarella Di Luna

    Until Sunday only Australians had an inkling of the low-bellied treacherous snake that is the redeeming feature of the Prime Minister now the entire workd knows

  2. 132andBush

    What an embarrassing embarrassment.
    The coalitions manifestation of Krudd.

  3. struth

    “What does the Australian press have to say about this?” These were their entire messages.

    When we don’t worry about what the press says,
    when we truly don’t worry, and that is all our PM does worry about, this would not have happened at all.

  4. Tim Neilson

    Trump should arrange for all 1250 of them to live next door to Obama. (Except the ones whom he arranges to live next door to the Australian Embassy.)

  5. Mellen

    Now Trump knows what a scheming, backstabbing, untrustworthy, stupid ego maniac our PM is. If Turnbull thinks he has done Australia any favors by demonstrating what the rest of the country know to be true then that just shows how incredibly self regarding and stupid he is. Who would want to do deals with such a creature?

  6. Mitchell Porter

    I don’t even know what the latest version of the “deal” is. The situation as I understand it, is that there were people in Manus and Nauru, wanting to enter Australia, and there were people in Costa Rica, wanting to enter America; and the deal involves some sort of trade of responsibility, so that America would deal with the people on Manus and Nauru, and Australia would deal with the people in Costa Rica. But now I hear that there’s no trade or swap, no connection between the two situations. Malcolm Turnbull needs to tell the country the truth about the history of this deal – how it came about, and *exactly* what he told Obama that we would do.

  7. Linswn

    The deal was a stitch up job on Trump and he new it straight away and called it out, once it was leaked to the media. Mal’s biggest stuff up, moral of the story; don’t try and do a stitch up job on the democratically elected leader of another country and then try and make yourself out as Mr.Wise guy!

  8. Mark

    ‘Trump should arrange for all 1250 of them to live next door to Obama. (Except the ones whom he arranges to live next door to the Australian Embassy.)’
    Cute!
    My goodness, I think we need a new PM in order to refresh our relationship with our closest ally. Do we have someone who didn’t trash Trump during the election period? Oh, maybe this SMH article of 14 Oct 2016 might give a clue as to who has:
    ‘defended Donald Trump and taken a swipe at Hillary Clinton, saying the Republican nominee’s positions are “reasonable enough” and his supporters are “not deplorables” but voters simply seeking change in America.’
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-says-donald-trumps-policies-are-reasonable-enough-and-his-voters-are-no-deplorables-20161013-gs1x6a.html

  9. Linswn

    as somebody else has already said, this was the John West Salmon add deal, we only keep the best and discard the rest..

  10. Mark M

    How is it playing out?
    If it was a game of AFL, someone just threw a banana on the field.

  11. Sparkx

    Mitchell, I agree with you. This “deal” has been whiffy from the start. It is high time the truth was told about who was getting what, and when. A used car salesman seems to have more credibility that Malcolm Turnbull.

  12. Linden

    or as they say in the classics, who is up who and who is not paying the rent

  13. Speedbox

    If I understand it correctly, the deal with the US was agreed soon after Trump won the election. So, Obama “committed” the US to a deal that he knew would be toxic to the incoming President and was unquestionably against everything Trump stands for given his pre-election comments. Even if the agreement was reached before Trump was elected (but not announced until after), this was still a grenade with the pin pulled – and Obama knew it.

    Now, not surprisingly, Trump has vented about the agreement and our incompetent PM has had no other response that to say, virtually, “a deal is a deal”. The US respond to that by saying that extreme vetting will be undertaken and I have no doubt they will impose every test they can think of. Cats are probably aware that extreme vetting means that any information subsequently obtained that diverges from the original information given by the person under investigation, the investigation “resets” back to the beginning and the whole process starts again based on the new information. Another divergence means the process resets again. And so on and so on. (Divergences in information do not necessarily have to be material to cause a reset).

    By the way, have you heard the way this is being presented in US television? The report I watched said that the refugees to be accepted by the US “are criminals currently held in an Australian prison”. Whilst technically correct, the report I watched implied that we were to empty our jails and the US had agreed to resettle our crims. The media report was inflammatory and a demand by US citizens that they should not accept criminals from another country may follow.

    Either way, I will be surprised if a single refugee from Manis or Nauru ever sets foot in the USA.

  14. Tel

    Turnbull has a very easy path to victory at the next election, requiring no effort at all. He simply fronts up boldly to the press and says, “I’m the Do Nothing Prime Minister, and I commit to nothing much happening while I’m in charge.”

    Very simple rule: if you can’t hide it, make a feature out of it.

    If the press starts to quibble, just look them in the eye and say the Australian people want it like that. If they still whinge and moan then raise one eyebrow and say, “You know the other choice is Bill Shorten, and after six months of him you’ll have fond memories of the days when we sat round doing nothing.”

  15. Linden

    It would be very funny if Plibersek rolled we willie Shorten and became the PM, it would be interesting to watch the proceedings of her with hubby in tow trying to get through US customs considering her hubby criminal record lol

  16. That Trump now thinks of Malcolm as a flea-weight no-account fool only means he has the same assessment of the PM as the rest of us.

    Ummm not quite all of us.

    There are some conspicuous Deniers.

  17. Mark M

    Bill “Barking Mad” Shorten is calling for Turnbull to show more respect to the POTUS.
    Too funny.

  18. H B Bear

    Peanut Head really must think the Australia public is as dumb as an average AWU member. He may be right of course.

  19. Linden

    The kettle calling the pot black?

  20. Beachside

    Turnbull is terminal. It’s over.

  21. Megan

    The hilarity never gets old. The multiple failings of Milksop Mal were glaringly obvious with the Gordon Grech disaster. He has not learnt anything at all from that experience (or the many missteps since) and continues to demonstrate his innovative stupidity and cravenly agile politics at every opportunity.

  22. cuckoo

    Sounds like the President grabbed ‘Trunbull’ by the pu$$y.

  23. Linden

    So what did Trump really say, maybe ‘listen dickhead just put Pauline on the line”

  24. cuckoo

    This story notwithstanding, Turnbull is the closest thing to an Invisible Man this country has ever had. (Perhaps second only to that guy who truck-bombed the ACL building.) I used to dream of a day when the government would be so small that you hardly knew who the Prime Minister was. At least I now know what the second part of that feels like.

  25. Titch

    What amuses me is that the ABC runs off to Manus Island or Nauru to interview the illegals housed there, as if they are entitled to be considered as Australian citizens are under the law. They ask their opinion as if it would carry some weight in the public eye. Then they broadcast these interviews, but can’t comprehend why the general public think the ABC consists of a bunch of total fools.

  26. Faye Busch

    Malcolm ‘a-deal-is-a-deal’ Turnbull thought he had it in the bag until the world started talking about how stupid he is. Trump doesn’t want to waste good money and resources resulting in no benefit for the US. This will stick in Trump’s craw forever.
    Australia’s good name comes before propping up Turnbull. For heaven’s sake, what does Turnbull have to commit before he is advised to leave?

  27. Art Vandelay

    I bet Turnbull monopolised most of the conversation by lecturing Trump on America’s need for fast trains and an emissions trading scheme.

  28. jupes

    Cats are probably aware that extreme vetting means that any information subsequently obtained that diverges from the original information given by the person under investigation, the investigation “resets” back to the beginning and the whole process starts again based on the new information. Another divergence means the process resets again. And so on and so on.

    I was unaware of this. It sounds stupid as there appears no end to the process.

    I had hoped that it meant that anyone who has no actual evidence of their background or proof of who they are would NOT be allowed in. In other words the onus is on the asylum shopper to prove they are genuine refugees and are not jihadists. In this case I doubt that any of the Nauru or Manus asylum shoppers would pass as the majority of them have thrown away their passports for a start.

    Compare that to the current system operating in Australia and the UN where anyone without evidence of terrorism or criminal offences is granted refugee status. In other words the onus is on the assessor to prove they AREN’T refugees.

  29. Mike of Marion

    Lucy won’t now get to meet Melania – Melania, thank your lucky stars!!

  30. Dr Fred Lenin

    All illegal migrants are criminals it is a criminal act to try to enter this country ,then like pillsberserks old man without authorisation by the relevant authorities ,end of story ,tell Trump they are criminals ,they would not be incarcersted if they were not ,then they would not be allowed into the USA .like pillsberserks hubby a convicted drug dealer ,was she living off the profits he made ? Complicity ? Didnt she wonder where his money came from?

  31. Robber Baron

    Our PM, the one that the Liberal party imposed on us, The Honourable Malcolm Bligh Turnbull, in his first proper conversation with the new President of the USA, the most powerful country in the world and our ANZUS alliance partner that has nukes that keeps us safe from invasion, puts the security of every Australian at risk for the sake of his reputation over a bunch of country shoppers!!!!!! This man is insane!

    If the Liberal party still keep him on as PM come Monday, not one of them deserve to be representatives, not one. Someone needs to challenge…anyone…even Bishop would be better.

    Message to the Liberal Party Victoria HQ…do not bother sending me a notice to renew my membership, I have no interest in your organisation. Your values and priorities are not in my interests.

  32. Robber Baron

    Oh, and if Australia needs a favour from the USA, what do you think the reply will be?

    Thanks Turnbull and the Liberal Party…thank you very much.

  33. Some History

    Trump’s press secretary indicated that “the President had a cordial conversation with Mr. Trumble”.

  34. Jannie

    Looks like the deal will be subject to a process, some may make it through the extreme vetting. Trump is being nice to Turnbull, cutting Australia some slack, but it still makes Turnbull look stupid. The good thing is that Turnbull looks stupid, and he is not going to get away with his superior Leftist sneers at the deplorable Trump. Trump has him by the pussy all right.

    Turnbull was wetting himself sucking up to Obama, and expected to carry on the same way with Hillary, the Oz Govt paid our membership fees to the Clinton Foundation. But he got Trump instead. He doesn’t have a plan, and he cant see outside his bubble. Trump probably expects a new Oz PM soon, maybe sooner than I was thinking.

  35. Goanna

    That Trump now thinks of Malcolm as a flea-weight no-account fool only means he has the same assessment of the PM as the rest of us.

    Too right Steve.

    Turnbull really is out of his depth.
    He talks agile but is flatfooted.
    He is lacking in fortitude otherwise he would have dealt with the country shoppers expeditiously instead of going to Obama with jaw jaw.

  36. King Koala

    Trumble is doing all he can to get Pauline elected PM.

  37. one old bruce

    “I bet Turnbull monopolised most of the conversation by lecturing Trump on America’s need for fast trains and an emissions trading scheme.”

    I read that Turnboule tried to change the subject to Syria, and that’s when Mr Trump rang off. Because T’boules is such an expert on the ME and was all set to offer his brilliant advice, spiced with erudite references in Latin…

  38. Some History

    Obama: Hi, Malcolm, lovely to speak to you again.

    Turnbull: Oooh, it’s a great privilege Mr. President…. a real privilege. And it’s a privilege.

    Obama: I hear you have about 1,000 asylum seekers in detention. We’re willing to take them off your hands. Actually, if you have any more, we’ll take all you’ve got. The more, the better. Send them all over here. As soon as Trump is inaugurated as President, he’ll take care of the details.

    Turnbull: That sounds wonderful Mr. President. Wonderful. It’s been a great privilege.

  39. Senile Old Guy

    All illegal migrants are criminals it is a criminal act to try to enter this country…

    Correct. Real asylum seekers request refuge at the first country they enter where it is safe to do so. These are country shoppers who have deliberately tried to illegally migrate to Australia. The left always overlooks this.

    Trump probably expects a new Oz PM soon, maybe sooner than I was thinking.

    It is clear from comments made, that the Trump Team were very prepared for what they wanted to do if they won. I would think they have files.

  40. Rabz

    Bloody hell – I’d forgotten about the “Costa Rican refugees”.

    Truly our politicians are beyond parody, beyond stupid and beyond redemption.

    It’s way past time we were rid of them all.

  41. Art Vandelay

    I read that Turnboule tried to change the subject to Syria, and that’s when Mr Trump rang off. Because T’boules is such an expert on the ME and was all set to offer his brilliant advice, spiced with erudite references in Latin…

    He was probably in the middle of telling Trump what Thucydides would have done to fix Syria.

  42. john constantine

    At least their turnfraser stuck it up those deplorable backpackers that thought that just because they had earned and been provided with the paperwork for their superannuation payments the government couldn’t steal their legal property.

  43. Art Vandelay

    I read that Turnboule tried to change the subject to Syria, and that’s when Mr Trump rang off. Because T’boules is such an expert on the ME and was all set to offer his brilliant advice, spiced with erudite references in Latin…

    Turnbull was probably droning on about what Thucydides would have done to fix Syria.

  44. A Lurker

    Malcolm really has to go. He’s beyond being a laughing stock. Is there someone, anyone in the Liberal party willing to pull the plug on that absurd flirtation with Green-Left ideology and give us a PM who actually isn’t a narcissistic buffoon?

  45. Linden

    Politics has never been so interesting and entertaining as it is now, thanks Mr.Trump

  46. Speedbox

    “I was unaware of this. It sounds stupid as there appears no end to the process”.

    That is precisely the point. Until such time as the investigating Officer is fully satisfied and all of the information supplied by the person being investigated has been verified, that person remains “in limbo”.

    Every detail must be investigated and you can just imagine how long some of these could take. For example:

    Officer: You say you where born and raised in Aleppo. What was your second last and last address in that city?
    Person: XXXXX and YYYYY but both houses destroyed.

    Officer to ground resource in Aleppo: Check whether these addresses exist; if so, what is condition of the residences? Are neighboring residences intact/occupied? Do neighbors remember person? Was he an IS sympathiser or combatant? Who were his friends? Do you know why he left? Etc…….

    Each roadblock in confirmation sets off yet another path to confirmation of the person’s identity.

    Of course, that is just the beginning. Any lie, fabrication, “economy with the truth” or vagueness can be found out and result in flat-out refusal to allow entry or, at the Officer’s discretion, restarts the process from the beginning based on the new information. Naturally, biometric identification/confirmation is sought out of every database resource in the western world.

  47. Marcus

    What’s truly amazing is that Turnbull’s apparently managed to turn the Coalition’s biggest policy success (stopping the boats) into a political liability.

  48. Marcus

    Is there someone, anyone in the Liberal party willing to pull the plug on that absurd flirtation with Green-Left ideology and give us a PM who actually isn’t a narcissistic buffoon?

    Peter Dutton, I hope, but he’s not from New South Wales so he doesn’t have a chance.

  49. Speedbox

    Any lie, fabrication, “economy with the truth” or vagueness can be found out…..

    I should have added……given enough time.

    And time, is exactly what the Investigating Officer has plenty of.

  50. Helen

    Lucy won’t now get to meet Melania

    No amount of money can buy class. Either got it not. Lucy not.

  51. Art Vandelay

    I read that Turnboule tried to change the subject to Syria, and that’s when Mr Trump rang off. Because T’boules is such an expert on the ME and was all set to offer his brilliant advice, spiced with erudite references in Latin…

    Turnbull was probably droning on about what Thucydides would have done to fix Syria.

  52. Art Vandelay

    I read that Turnboule tried to change the subject to Syria, and that’s when Mr Trump rang off. Because T’boules is such an expert on the ME and was all set to offer his brilliant advice, spiced with erudite references in Latin…

    Turnbull was probably droning on about what Thucydides would have done to fix Syria.

  53. H B Bear

    What’s truly amazing is that Turnbull’s apparently managed to turn the Coalition’s biggest policy success (stopping the boats) into a political liability.

    Anyone familiar with Waffleworth’s track record as Leader of the Opposition or Minister would see nothing amazing about it at all.

  54. Wal of Ipswich

    The anti Turnbull crap here is not new. Now his wife is being denigrated too. You really are a sad bunch.

  55. Kaboom

    People have (even on this thread) been referring to the country-shoppers being “incarcerated” on Nauru and Manus Island.

    As far as I can recall, all “detainees” have the immediate right to go back home. All they have to do is raise their hand and say “Please Sir, I just want to go home!”

    There is no impediment to their freedoms whatsoever.

  56. Tintarella di Luna

    The US respond to that by saying that extreme vetting will be undertaken and I have no doubt they will impose every test they can think of.

    I think the dictation test in Gaelic should sort out the goats from those acting the goat.

  57. dweezy2176

    Obama: Hi, Malcolm, lovely to speak to you again.

    Turnbull: Oooh, it’s a great privilege Mr. President…. a real privilege. And it’s a privilege.

    Obama: I hear you have about 1,000 asylum seekers in detention. We’re willing to take them off your hands. Actually, if you have any more, we’ll take all you’ve got. The more, the better. Send them all over here. As soon as Trump is inaugurated as President, he’ll take care of the details.

    Turnbull: That sounds wonderful Mr. President. Wonderful. It’s been a great privilege.

    Fact check = true +1

  58. NewChum

    Trumbull : better or worse than David Cameron? Discuss.

    For my part it will say it is a great pity we won’t see Trump make a fool of Cameron.

  59. NewChum

    The anti Turnbull crap here is not new. Now his wife is being denigrated too. You really are a sad bunch.

    Sure is a lot of gloating around for a sad bunch. Almost like they were ……happy?

  60. Louis Hissink

    What do you expect from these parvenu ? Manners? Prescience?

    A clear case of terminal foot-in-mouth syndrome.

  61. Wal of Ipswich

    You would have to be a nihilistic turd to be gloating over the insult to the Australian Prime Minister. What possible upside is there to pooping on the Australian/US relationship?

  62. Senile Old Guy

    You would have to be a nihilistic turd to be gloating over the insult to the Australian Prime Minister. What possible upside is there to pooping on the Australian/US relationship?

    Trump made it very clear the problem was Turnbull, not Australia.

    And, like many here, I am delighted to see the bumbling Trumbell Trumped.

    (And I am also one of Textor’s deplorables.)

  63. Jannie

    Wally from Ipswich, I am not a nihilistic turd. Please retract that statement. As for Turnbull, he is on record insulting Trump. Trump treated Turnbull more gently than Turnbull deserved.

  64. Louis Hissink

    Hmm, maybe we could create a similar meme to that started in one of the Yes Minister (or PM series), when Humphrey said something was ‘appalling’; in this case it’s, deplorable

    Meh. Maybe not.

  65. Sunni Bakchat

    Only a man without the slightest political nous would ring an American president who has just signed an Executive order that is the subject of riotous protests.
    The truth is Turnbull, in his infinite narcissistic conceit, thought he’d need to twist Trump’s arm rather than being a little more clever and waiting for the immigration fires to die down.
    The view from America from this long departed Australian national is one of a country that has a lot of wrecking in it. Turnbull in his appallingly selfish flight of fancy as Prime minister, is doing a superb job in accelerating Australia’s decline.
    For that he should be remembered.

  66. Wal of Ipswich

    At the risk of invoking Godwin’s Law it seems the majority of commentators on this blog have a liking for the Furherprinzip. Trump is not the messiah, he is just a naughty boy.

  67. min

    More trouble for Malcolm ,one of his staffers suspended for tuck frump site with voodoo dolls of Trump. Bet she is from the green lefties that are parliament Secretaries in his office.

  68. Jannie

    Wally, you should understand that insulting people does not develop your argument. If you have a good idea, you should be able to defend it. Insulting people is what Lefties do to shut people up.

  69. Turnbull. Is he gone yet?

    And Bishop. And Pyne. Gone?

    Why are we waiting? That yogurt’s not going to turn into fresh milk again. It’s got a diesel sub’s chance.

  70. john constantine

    Their fraser lost his pants and his inherited multigenerational fortune when forced out into the real world.

    So far their turnfraser has only lost his oral virginity to their hussein obama, but at least he got a selfie for all his gargling disconfort.

    We don’t mock the Prime Minister of Australia, because there isn’t one, all we have is a dodgy little branch manager of the sydney franchise of their new transnational social justice aristocracy, no liability company.

  71. PeterF

    Why would any one be surprised when Michael Trumbull pissed off Trump. When Trumbull was in the USA he was a Hillary supporter and didn’t bother to see Donald as he had no chance of being President. Funny how things turn out. Now Trumbull has to eat a lot of crow for his rudeness.

  72. Stimpson J. Cat

    You would have to be a nihilistic turd to be gloating over the insult to the Australian Prime Minister. What possible upside is there to pooping on the Australian/US relationship?

    I refuse to be lectured by a man called Wal.

    And the upside is a new Prime Minister.

  73. HJ

    Nailed it again Steve Kates!

  74. Defender of the faith

    Nice pivot Kates. But that your preference for leader of the free world is so useless and perhaps stupid that he agreed with Turnbull to carry the deal, had his state dept confirm it publicly and then twitted his walk back. Why would anyone trust this guy with anything at all. Why should Australians not assume that he has no regard for allies?
    The one thing we know for certain: so far he has done nothing but increase the risk to Americans and reduce their ability to maintain leadership in any serious issue.
    Amusing that it’s Turnbull who actually shirtfronts the bullying turds while Abbott has nothing to do but whine.

  75. village.prefect

    I am no fan of the Dud and I agree it was a stupid slippery deal with Barry Obama. Barry, no friend of Oz, latched on to an opportunity to lay a rotten egg that would hatch and stink under Trumps nose. At the very least the Dud should have contacted and raised the deal with Trump during the transition period.

    But the bigger issue here is the leak. If it was US leaked as seems likely then it has implications far wider than Oz.How can any leader ( aside from Putin) now have frank discussions with a Trump?

    As for the Dud it actually works for him. Gives him an appearance of a backbone. Ozzies don’t like their PM being insulted especially by the likes of Trump.. Hence BullShitten originally critical didn’t give Turnbull a greater opportunity by siding with him against Trump.

    Nope this actually works for the Dud domestically.

  76. Dr Faustus

    Their ABC gently airbrushing ‘Barking Mad’ Shorten’s running commentary on Trump:

    “In terms of my comments about President Trump before the election, I seem to remember all sides of politics express some concerns about some of his views … Now I hope I’m wrong. I hope that things work out.”

    In March, Coalition frontbencher Christopher Pyne said Mr Trump’s growing popularity was “terrifying”.

    Oddly the ABC forgets to report Shorten’s zinger character assessment last October:

    “But I know I am not the only one relieved that with every passing day, with every disgusting, demeaning comment Mr Trump makes, the possibility of him being president fades,” Mr Shorten says in a speech prepared for a CEDA conference keynote address.

    “By his own words and his own actions, he has confirmed the worst fears of millions in the United States and beyond its borders — he is entirely unsuitable to be leader of the free world.”

    If Shorten ever gets to meet Trump, these profound thoughts will be included in the briefing note for the Orange One.

  77. Wal of Ipswich

    Tired of this. I make a case for propriety & get boring insults about my name. For the last time, Turnbull has manners & Trump doesn’t & commentators here line up where they wish. The issue is irrelevant. Thank goodness real government relations aren’t conducted by keyboard warriors.

  78. jupes

    What’s truly amazing is that Turnbull’s apparently managed to turn the Coalition’s biggest policy success (stopping the boats) into a political liability.

    Actually The Donald has saved OSB.

    If Hillary had been president she probably would have continued with the Obama / Turnbull “worst deal in the world”.

    The boats would have started again and there is no way Turnbull could stop them.

    Trump has saved Australia and it’s only week two of his presidency. What a champion.

  79. Senile Old Guy

    Ozzies don’t like their PM being insulted especially by the likes of Trump.

    Speak for yourself! I, along with others here, are Ozzies who are perfectly happy to see Trump insult the useless fop, Turnbull. Trump has accomplished more in a week, that the waffler has accomplished in his entire time as PM. Remember, Turnbull is only PM thanks to the Nationals picking up a seat. Turnbull himself managed to lose a swag of seats.

  80. jupes

    If Shorten ever gets to meet Trump, these profound thoughts will be included in the briefing note for the Orange One.

    Well it will either be him, Albo or The Junkies Wife.

    Labor have the next election in the bag, maybe earlier if Turnbull gets rolled and the Labor win the by-election.

  81. john constantine

    Their fraser inflicted the genocidal mugabe upon the people of Zimbabwe.

    Their turnfraser seems hellbent on inflicting the shortfilth upon the proles of Australia.

    At least mugabe has a bit more class and tone than their wee willy, but they both come with the same economic impulses.

  82. Marcus

    Trumbull : better or worse than David Cameron? Discuss.

    Cameron came to the leadership legitimately, and his party actually grew under his leadership, so whatever his faults, there’s really no contest between the two.

  83. jupes

    Tired of this.

    Feel free to fuck off then dickhead.

  84. Andrew

    The anti Turnbull crap here is not new. Now his wife is being denigrated too. You really are a sad bunch.

    His wife is a far worse human being than he is, and richly deserves all the abuse she gets x100

  85. john constantine

    We all got to see their trunfrasers manners so delighfully displayed, when he hosted their waleed the denouncer at the official dinner that he took the day off campaigning to indulge in, while languidly permitting the lowly shortfilth to simply run him down.

    We got to see their trunfrasers manners displayed as he so tastefully posed for his selfie with their hussein obama, ‘cutting’ Trump from the elite society of crony social justice aristocrats.

  86. Megan

    Tired of this. I make a case for propriety & get boring insults about my name. For the last time, Turnbull has manners & Trump doesn’t & commentators here line up where they wish. The issue is irrelevant.

    You are free to leave anytime.

  87. Megan

    Not sure about the relevance of manners to strong leadership. But you nailed it…that issue is irrelevant. As are your contributions thus far.

  88. You would have to be a nihilistic turd to be gloating over the insult to the Australian Prime Minister.

    Turdbull enters into an unenforceable immigration deal with Obumma five days AFTER Trump is elected on a platform that includes specifically stopping such immigration. Turdbull attempts to force the issue with the incoming President, and Turdbull’s the one insulted?

    What possible upside is there to pooping on the Australian/US relationship?

    None. So why did Turdbull try and do it?

  89. I posted this on the open thread, but perhaps it should be here.

    Earlier today I emailed the Office of the President, to reassure him, as an ordinary conservative Australian, that his actions with regards our lame excuse for a PM were not only acceptable, but being applauded by many here.

    I pointed out that Lord Waffleworth is something of a joke amongst conservative Australians, and invited President Trump to put the boot into our politicians as much as he wanted. While I realise Trump himself will never read my email, I reckon if a few people responded this way it might be reassuring to his administration in light of all the concocted, bad publicity.

    Email response page here.

    If you agree, promote the idea elsewhere.

  90. Some History

    “Wal from Ipswich” conjures thoughts of someone and his two mates getting together on the weekend in Wal’s shed “bar”. As his buddies chug down the amber fluid, Wal entertains them with his piano-accordion rendition of AC/DC’s “Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap”. “Great stuff, Wal. Play ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ next”.

  91. Linden

    well he should not have to tried to a Mr.Wise Guy, unfortunately Turnbull’s political skills are sadly lacking, 1 he had the chance to meet Trump during the election campaign, he choose not to, instead he meet up with Obama and Clinton because obviously he believed all the ABC crap telling all that Clinton would win in a landside, Turnbull has bought his political demise upon himself!

  92. Jannie

    Some History, Born to Run, by Lord Bruce Springsteen.

  93. PeterF

    Come on guys,( am I allowed to use that word) don’t be nasty to Wal. I’m sure he means well, he just doesn’t get out enough.

  94. James of the Glen

    For the last time, Turnbull has manners & Trump doesn’t “.

    Where did you glean such information, Wally? Cease making up such drivel, you don’t have a clue.

    And I expect you to keep your word, although people who invent drivel are poor bets.

  95. DaveR

    For a dodgy leftie Graham Richardson is right, Malcolm Turnbul has a political tin ear.

    After Trump was elected, what chance did Turbull have of getting his silly small deal with the outgoing president through against a popular new president running on an America First nationalist platform? 50:50.

    Was it worth the political risk in Australia? No way.

  96. Wal of Ipswich

    Going by the insults above I think my point is proven. Fuck off fascists.

  97. B Shaw

    Helen is quite wrong. Lucy Turnbull does have class.
    She’s no longer attractive, but she has class.

  98. Fuck off fascists.

    So, you’re an antifa, Wal.
    Caved in anybody’s head today?
    Smashed any windows?
    Set fire to anything?
    Met your quota of beating up young women who disagree with you?

    Such a proud legacy you have to live up to, Wal.

  99. Megan

    What point did you make exactly? I cannot seem to unearth it in anything you have written thus far. And my granny would be horrified at the poor manners you just displayed by using such bad language. Temper, temper, Wal. It’s no good for your blood pressure. See also: Big Hypocrite.

    I suspect you’re a close friend of old Numberskull. He could never string a coherent argument together either.

  100. Linden

    Turnbull simply does not have the political animal instinct to handle Shorten and co, the same as John Hewson, smart business man, Hewson got chewed like a dog with rag doll by Keating, Turnbull unfortunately is in the same vein as Hewson. The LNP does not one decent street political fighter in there ranks, they are always shit frightened by what their stupid advisers are telling them and too busy watching endless ‘polls’ they themselves are governed the committee of ‘THEY” is no wonder so many are turning to Hanson!

  101. candy

    Going by the insults above I think my point is proven. Fuck off fascists.

    Wal, I get your point about manners, but my thought is that M. Turnbull should have waited before pressing on this deal.
    You know, said something like the President has just taken power and the deal is against his stated policies, so let’s just wait say 6 months and then discuss. Why press so hard on it, when D. Trump has been in the job 1 week? What would have been the harm of waiting? Keep friends, allies, and talk about the deal some months down the track.

    Bet it’s hot in Ipswich right now, always a few degrees warmer than Brisbane.

  102. jupes

    Hewson got chewed like a dog with rag doll by Keating

    Good.

    We dodged a bullet with that moron.

  103. Rabz

    LOL – hilarious to observe the mental disintegration of poor ol’ Wal of Ipswich.

    From trying to heroically secure the moral high ground at 5:16pm, before rapidly degenerating into Godwining at 6:08pm and finally culminating in the desperate, facially contorted, utterly inarticulate and mouth foaming denunciation, “f*ck off fascists” at 8:08pm.

    Good ol’ concern trolls. I’d been missing them.

  104. You know, said something like the President has just taken power and the deal is against his stated policies, so let’s just wait say 6 months and then discuss.

    You’re missing the point, Candy. Why even make such a deal with an outgoing President when you know it is utterly contrary to the political platform of the incoming replacement? There was never any way it was ever going to be met with smiles and open arms by Trump.

    The sole purpose of the entire exercise was to lay a landmine for Trump and embarrass him, for no particular reason other than point-scoring by Turdbull with the anti-Trump socialite set. Utterly inexcusable behaviour for any head of state, let alone one of a country almost entirely dependent on the good grace of the President of the USA for our defence.

  105. egg_

    Thank goodness real government relations aren’t conducted by keyboard warriors.

    What about the foul Facebook posts by Turnbull’s COS’s EA?

  106. Enough of this Liberal Kindergarten, send the childen home to their mothers!

  107. candy

    Why even make such a deal with an outgoing President when you know it is utterly contrary to the political platform of the incoming replacement?

    memoryvault, I think Turnbull and Bishop assumed Ms Clinton would win. They looked distraught in Question Time when the news came through.
    Just saying, M. Turnbull should have used discretion and understanding of the new Prez and said let’s talk 6 months later, no stress, our nations’ friendship is uppermost. He just barged on, though.

  108. Copernicus

    Google this for research from the pewResearchCentre.
    “A total of 38,901 Muslim refugees entered the U.S. in fiscal year 2016, making up almost half (46%) of the nearly 85,000 refugees who entered the country in that period, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of data from the State Department’s Refugee Processing Center. That means the U.S. has admitted the highest number of Muslim refugees of any year since data on self-reported religious affiliations first became publicly available in 2002”.
    85,000 last year and Trump insults an ally over a mere 1,250 (yes less than 1.5% of last years total), negotiated in good faith with the former President!!!!!
    Up to this week I was prepared to give Trump the benefit of the doubt and that he may avoid these bizarre temper tantrums, unfitting of a person in his position. I am now increasingly of the opinion that it’s going to end very, very badly for him.

  109. memoryvault, I think Turnbull and Bishop assumed Ms Clinton would win.

    Candy, the “deal” with Obumma was made five days AFTER Trump had won the election. It was over. The result was known. Trump had won. Clinton had lost. The “deal” was utterly contrary to Trump’s platform. Its sole purpose was to embarrass Trump, and cement Turdbull into the good books of the Clinton/Bush crony elite Establishment.

  110. Chris

    So Wal, may I ask if you punched out any ABC ‘journalist’ for their disrespect of Prime Minister Abbott and active undermining of Australian interests by fomenting overseas interest in the accusations of racism, burnt exhaust pipe hands, Labor’s misuse of spies to attack their local political enemies?
    If so, I warmly congratulate you.

  111. A Lurker

    Going by the insults above I think my point is proven. Fuck off fascists.

    Hmm, I think we can happily put Where’s Wally into a GetUp box, or maybe Socialist Alternative who is coming here to shit-stir; or perhaps a regular Cat who likes knitting sock-puppets?

  112. .

    WTF was this thread about? Really?

  113. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From memoryvault at 9:21 pm:

    memoryvault, I think Turnbull and Bishop assumed Ms Clinton would win.

    Candy, the “deal” with Obumma was made five days AFTER Trump had won the election. It was over. The result was known. Trump had won. Clinton had lost. “

    It isn’t that difficult is it, Memoryvault, but then it is. I’m astonished.

    “The “deal” was utterly contrary to Trump’s platform. Its sole purpose was to embarrass Trump, and cement Turdbull into the good books of the Clinton/Bush crony elite Establishment.”

    Yes, it was as simple as that. The fallout is pretty to watch.

  114. Up The Workers!

    I’ve long suspected it, but am now almost certain.

    Does anybody else here believe that the current ‘Non-Secretary-General of the United Nations’, His Excellency Kevin Rudd, and the Wentworth Waffler, were actually born as Siamese twins – joined at the arsehole?

    They are both narcissistic buffoons with an unfortunate propensity for projectile verbal diarrhoea and both display the political nous of a tapeworm – very likely the SAME tapeworm.

    Rather than the press bagging President Trump, the man should be complimented on his perspicacity!

  115. Rob

    Sounds like the President grabbed ‘Trunbull’ by the pu$$y

    And strangled it.

  116. Wozzup

    The fact is that everyone including the drover’s dog understood the deal over refugees made with Obama relied solely on one thing – Hillary winning the election. And everyone and the drover’s dog , certainly anyone with a brain, upon listening to Trump during the campaign would also understand that should he win the election he would not wish to honor the deal. A deal which after all seemed to be designed by Obama (who remember announced it after Trump’s win) to discomfort Trump whom he knew would not wish to honour it. In those circumstances anyone with an ounce of nous would have just quietly dropped the plan without any announcements and backed away once Trump won. Anyone with an ounce of honor might have at least held off any announcements till having the chance to speak to the new President elect about it. Clearly Turnbull was trying to force Trumps hand just as Obama was. I expected it of Obama who is a complete prick. I expect more from an Australian PM, but it seems that he is lacking in brains, nous and honour. Sad (as the Donald would say).

  117. Will

    Peter Dutton, I hope, but he’s not from New South Wales so he doesn’t have a chance.

    Victoria being the “jewel in the Crown” of the Liberal Party being a far distant memory.

  118. Zatara

    Several have posited here that Turnbull “showed he had a backbone”, “stood up to Trump”, and most hilariously, that he “shirtfronted” Trump.

    Perhaps they would be kind enough to explain explain exactly how and when such a thing happened.
    ………
    For those concerned about the leak, and rightly so, give Trump a little time. There is much weeding to be done to clean out the bureaucratic jungle full of booby traps and suicidal remain-behinds that Obama left for him.

  119. jupes

    Steyn:

    A court battle this long, however, does impose costs way beyond any tip jars and legal defense funds. So I am obliged to prioritize revenue-generating activities, such as TV, radio, books, albums and whatnot. Which will mean, alas, rather less time for curating world affairs at this website seven days a week. I regret that, but I hope you’ll understand.

    Cut him some slack. Steyn is the greatest free speech fighter on the planet.

  120. Jannie

    Going by the insults above I think my point is proven. Fuck off fascists.

    So long and thanks for all the laughs Wally. You are almost perfect, except you make up stuff.

  121. egg_

    Clearly Turnbull was trying to force Trumps hand just as Obama was.

    An act of desperation IMHO, a solution to one of Turnbull’s biggest problems, in his eyes.
    Presumably, the US will only accept a token amount, lest the floodgates from Indonesia burst open, like under KRudd.

  122. Eyrie

    There are refugees from Costa Rica? I was watching a TV program from a day or two ago where Stephen Fry was in Central America and Costa Rica was meant to have quite good social services and a stable democratic government.

  123. Zatara

    In 2016, more than 30,000 undocumented migrants crossed into Costa Rica, and the country is now receiving 100 migrants a day at its southern border.

    More than 100 illegal migrants are entering the small Central American country of Costa Rica every day, looking for “coyotes” to take them across the Nicaraguan border and on to the United States, Costa Rican President Luis Solis says.

    Eighty-five per cent of the new arrivals were from Haiti by way of Brazil, where many settled after Haiti’s 2010 earthquake but whose construction jobs had disappeared now the Rio Olympics were over and the country wallowed in recession

  124. Rabz

    a regular Cat who likes knitting sock-puppets?

    It’s enough to almost make you fondly reminisce about the musings of Jobson Grothe and Clive 4 Evah.

  125. Tintarella di Luna

    the musings of Jobson Grothe and Clive 4 Evah.

    So sad – those missing musings were so entertaining but I guess passing fads reflect electoral cycles and electoral cyclones respectively – thanks for the memory.

  126. Nerblnob

    Eyrie
    #2284366, posted on February 3, 2017 at 10:53 pm
    There are refugees from Costa Rica? I was watching a TV program from a day or two ago where Stephen Fry was in Central America and Costa Rica was meant to have quite good social services and a stable democratic government.

    Probably from a third country but CR is trying to get shot of them.

  127. notafan

    Honduras and Guetamala are two of the originating countries

  128. Any wannabe enemy or rival of Trump is an utter fool if they think he doesn’t do his homework on them.

  129. Malcolm

    Don’t be stupid Kates. Turnbull stood up for his country against a bully and won. It’s a great deal for Australia and the US. Turnbull played his cards perfectly. Bravo MT

  130. Sparkx

    B Shaw
    #2284204, posted on February 3, 2017 at 8:17 pm
    Helen is quite wrong. Lucy Turnbull does have class.
    She’s no longer attractive, but she has class.

    I gather you are referring to “cattle class”.

  131. Ross B

    Turnbull has to go. He is damaging the Liberal party and the nation.

    Yeap…

    Who is the incompetent politician in this debacle – his name is Turnbull.

    And yeap again…

    Meanwhile, over in Rusted-On-Lefty-Journoland Kelly and Oakes and a bunch of others still spin it as some kind of political win for our newest PM, Mr Trunbull.

  132. OldOzzie

    When Lord Waffles of Wentworth Turdbull and Lady Lucy are getting advice from this “Lady” Executive assistant Yvette Kerr, who until Friday was working in Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s office, show what a Prat, Turdbull is

    PM staffer suspended over Trump posts on personal Facebook page

    A staffer from the prime minister’s office has been suspended over posts about US President Donald Trump on social media.

    Executive assistant Yvette Kerr, who until Friday was working in Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s office, has accepted they were inappropriate and has deleted them from her account, a spokeswoman for the prime minister told AAP on Friday.

    “The employee accepts that these posts were inappropriate and has deleted them from her account,” a spokeswoman from the Prime Minister’s office said in a statement.

    “The Chief of Staff has suspended her immediately while the matter is investigated further,” she said.

    One of the posts on Facebook was reportedly of a T-shirt with the words “Tuck Frump”, according to Sydney’s 2GB radio.

    Ms Kerr had an image of a ‘Tuck Frump’ t-shirt as her Facebook cover image until mid-January, 2GB reports.

  133. MikeN

    Is Tony Abbott still viable to return? Why is Trumbull the head of the party when he is a Hillary supporter?

    What if Trump (quietly) made dump Trumbull a requirement or Oz will be ‘at the back of the queue’?

  134. .

    Malcolm
    #2284562, posted on February 4, 2017 at 7:28 am
    Don’t be stupid Kates. Turnbull stood up for his country against a bully and won. It’s a great deal for Australia and the US. Turnbull played his cards perfectly. Bravo MT

    Um…the deal was bad for both the US and Australia. Clearly Obama did it as a spiteful poison pill. Why should America be beholden to a deal like that which was never formalised anyway?

    When Lord Waffles of Wentworth Turdbull and Lady Lucy are getting advice from this “Lady” Executive assistant Yvette Kerr, who until Friday was working in Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s office, show what a Prat, Turdbull is

    Why? His allegiance is to us, not Donald Trump. Unprofessional perhaps but why this attitude of you MUST like Trump?

  135. Copernicus

    And in the meantime my comment from 9.15pm on Feb 4 is still awaiting moderation.

  136. Zatara

    Unprofessional perhaps but why this attitude of you MUST like Trump?

    Because a lack of professionalism is something to aspire to in the PMs office. Gosh I wish we had more of it.

  137. Zatara

    Like it, dislike it, Trump is the President of the United States and damned well deserves to not be insulted by members of an allied government or their staff. Why? Because they represent the nation, that’s why.

    So if they don’t like it resign or STFU and get on with it.

    Because that’s what professionals do.

  138. candy

    I would say the pervading attitude in the PM office in that close circle is they enjoy the insult to D. Trump.

    If they held him in esteem just simply as the President of US, Turnbull’s chief of staff would not countenance such social media activities, such unprofessionalism. That they let it stand for three months means they agree with the thoughts conveyed.

  139. mh

    The one Minister that was left that hadn’t been damaged by Trumball was Peter Dutton. However, after hearing his interview with Ray Hadley, then getting the real story, you have to say that Dutton is now looking like a chump as well.

    A massively stupid week for the Liberal Party. Sad.

  140. B Shaw

    No, Sparkx. Not “cattle class” : )

    Lucy Turnbull has always had class.
    Helen got it the wrong way around.
    Mrs Trump looks stunning. Mrs. Turnbull has class.

    But we’re none of us perfect – she chose Malcolm.
    Lyndon Johnson’s wife – a more famous example of a woman with class who married an unworthy man.

  141. Helen

    Lucy wears Elton John glasses and curtains for dinner outfits. Not class. Tammy Fraser has class, Mrs Trump has class – she speaks five languages too, doesnt she?

  142. BorisG

    Lyndon Johnson’s wife – a more famous example of a woman with class who married an unworthy man.

    she forgot to ask you.

  143. Cold-Hands

    Rats. Turnbull still PM? Looks as though I’ve washed out of the Mal-lotto. Not too far out though- he’s clearly destabilized.

  144. the sting

    Trump should send these ” Aussie refugees” to Guantanomo Bay.

  145. .

    Really? You want to treat illegal immigrants worse than murderers?

    Loopy stuff.

  146. B Shaw

    You were talking about fashion sense, Helen?

    Now that’s an entirely different kettle of fabric.

  147. Jms

    Since Canada has announced that they are now open to all refugees, they should be offered this batch to start with.

  148. Bannedbybreitbart

    It strikes me that if Australia sends these people to the United States and they subsequently commit a terrorist act, it would mean that Australia sent a saboteur into the US, which could be considered an act of war. The US response could be anything from trade sanctions to dropping a MOAB over Sydney Harbor and watching the waves slosh around. Did your esteemed PM think about that? I mean, the left thinks Trump is a mad man …

  149. Willy

    I confess I haven’t been following this story too closely. But if Turnbull really wants to set an example of altruism, why can’t he make a “deal” with Australian voters to accept resettlement of these refugees in Australia?

  150. jubadoobai

    Turnbull is fortunate Trump has said he is prepared to proceed.

    Turnbull is going to get screwed. Trump promised extreme vetting; since these people flew into Indonesia and tossed their papers, there is no way to properly vet who they are. They will not be taken into the USA.

    So, Trump will have honored the deal on terms he made, and Turnbull will have egg on his face. Sorry for you guys Down Under to be stuck with Turnbull. I’m glad we have Trump.

  151. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Cold-Hands #2285471, posted on February 5, 2017 at 5:53 am

    Rats. Turnbull still PM? Looks as though I’ve washed out of the Mal-lotto. Not too far out though- he’s clearly destabilized.

    Not too far out? I’m not so sure. One of the only things that could match the need for Chairman Mal to go is the dithering of his Liberal colleagues.

  152. rosignol

    This is a horrible deal, for both Australia and the USA.

    What do you think will happen when word gets out that if you make it to Australia, you might get resettled in America?

    For every ‘migrant’ Trump accepts, a hundred more are going to start the journey.

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