Q&A Forum: February 13, 2017

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184 Responses to Q&A Forum: February 13, 2017

  1. Megan

    Let’s hope Carpe makes it tonight, really missed his pithy contributions last week.

    I’ll take 29 in the Lotto, thanks.

  2. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Put me down for 47 in interruption lotto, please, Carpe.

  3. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspeeklike

    Forty five, please.

  4. hzhousewife

    Should be watching PML instead you guys ( I know, costs money and it’s Sky, but tbh, much more stimulating, and yes, they do provide several points of view, not just one.

  5. Carpe Jugulum

    I have a work dinner, up and running net week

    Sorry troops

    Duty calls

  6. Megan

    See you in a week then, Carpe. Time to give those chaps an outing.

  7. P

    James Paterson, Kate Ellis, Senator Jacqui Lambie, Yassmin Abdel-Magied & Luca Belgiorno-Nettis.

  8. Turtle of WA

    Senator James Paterson, Kate Ellis, Senator Jacqui Lambie, Yassmin Abdel-Magied & Luca Belgiorno-Nettis.

  9. Snoopy

    James Paterson, Kate Ellis, Senator Jacqui Lambie, Yassmin Abdel-Magied & Luca Belgiorno-Nettis.

    It’s good to see that important 20% of Australia’s population is properly represented.

  10. Turtle of WA

    Yassmin “Smugstorm” Abdel-Magied

  11. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    All good, Carpe, although with Jacqui and Yassmin going head to head it could be full on interruption.

    In the meantime, Medis Witch leads with bagging Melania Trump for suing to keep her name clean.

  12. nilk.

    MEDIA Witch. And I haven’t even had one glass of wine yet.

    Oh dear.

  13. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    New test.

  14. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Okay, tried changing my handle back to nilk and landed in moderationland. Looks like I’m a Lady for a bit longer on this unit.

  15. Turtle of WA

    Scruffy hipster kid bleating about gerbil warming. Straight to Smug Yassmin.

  16. Dave in Marybrook

    Afternoon, all.
    May I claim 50 for iLotto please?

  17. Arnost

    Oh my GOD… what is that thing? No no no I just can’t do this.

  18. Habib

    Why bother? Which retinue of drooling leftist shit-flingers are going to hugely impress the small but equally demented audience tonight?

  19. egg_

    When will Yassmin stop filling the room with CO2?

  20. Turtle of WA

    Yassmin babbles for five minutes, then declares she doesn’t know the answer, with a smug smile. Well shut up then, Yazzi.

  21. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    First question: Over the past week unprecedented heat waves have swept over Australia. Why do we have a government that spends bucketloads on subsidies for fossil fuels when we need to DO SOMETHING!

    Yassy goes first: I’m not speaking on behalf of any energy company, waffle, and I don’t know how anyone can’t believe in climate change. We have the technology, we have the capability. Look at costa Rica, Norway and other places like that.

    I may be someone who drilled holes in the ground, but it’s time to do something.

    Snowcone: so you’re happy to put drillers out of jobs?

    Yassy: Ooh. It’s about disruption, and we need to find something to get businesses away from worrying about money and bringing morality into it.

    All she needs is a frock and she can wave her hands and go full holy roller.

  22. Cpt Seahawks

    Morality subsidy on renewables is the problem.

  23. Megan

    My screen has finally had enough of being yelled at. I have the black screen of death…it could just be it has its own view on screening Q&A.

    Go Cat’s team.

  24. egg_

    Is Yassmin into recycling – looks like she’s wearing some 1970s drapes?

  25. Turtle of WA

    Snowcone won’t let James Patterson speak.

  26. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    James: I disagree that there are fossil fuel subsidies. Begins with facts and Snowcone jumps in.

    this is, after all, QandA on the Australian Bolshevik Collecktiv and it’s a factfree zone.

    Yassy tries to jump in, fails, and James continues on.

  27. Turtle of WA

    I dream of Jeanie hat.

  28. egg_

    Yaz – to James: renewballs not to blame for SA’s problems.
    Funny, they’re the only ones having a problem!

  29. custard

    This is terrible television.

  30. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    James points to SA and the problems as being the fault of lack of infrastructure and no way to cover for lack of renewables.

    There are lots of reasons for what happened in SA was NOT renewables fault. So sez the mechanical engineer and offendotron Yas. Because she’s obvs a climate scientist.

    Kate Ellis, also a climate scientist bags Trumble for being weak and having no mandate to stand up and do what he really wants to do.

  31. Arnost

    James obviously not be able to get a point across today… this is so pathetic.

    I tuned in briefly – it is now a scripted reality show… nothing to do with news, current affairs and certainly not science!

  32. Arnost

    We got to take Real Action. Someone needs to to do sumtink. Suntink!

  33. Pedro the Ignorant

    Dammit. Work calls.

    Have fun mocking the drongos, troops.

  34. Turtle of WA

    Renewballs didn’t do it. It’s just a co-incidence that the state with the most of ’em keeps blacking out.

  35. egg_

    Kate Ellis, also a climate scientist bags Trumble for being weak and having no mandate to stand up and do what he really wants to do.

    Gillard introduced da Carbon tax with the aid of the three tards.

  36. Cpt Seahawks

    Wtf jacks is on board?

  37. Turtle of WA

    Lambie ain’t too bright, but she sure can troll.

  38. Cpt Seahawks

    Kate Ellis has a resemblance to Pepe.

  39. marcus w

    WTF !! the fallen towers cause the problem ?

  40. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Kate believes we need to come together on real issues, like we can do. today we came together to mark the anniversary of the apology to the stolen generation.

    Then we’ll be able to fight climate change.

    Jacqui points out that the climate has always changed. Brings up charging our pensioners more for power (Snowcone talks over) is a Bad Thing.

    She doesn’t agree with the Paris thing. When everyone wants to join in, then we can think of signing up. We should prepare for change.

    Bring back Involuntary Nasho, build up the SES. we have some of the world’s biggest uranium reserves, let’s go nucular.

    Yassy agrees that making life harder for out more vulnerable ones is a Bad Thing, BUT… we have to DO something.

  41. john

    I appreciate you watching this shit so that I don’t have to.

  42. marcus w

    I reckon Lambie can argue both sides at once ….. hard to follow though

  43. marcus w

    Yeah … leave the power switched off to make greater profits …….. shoot me

  44. egg_

    she sure can troll.

    Vastly outnumbered, made a good plea for the non-virtue-signalling poor.

  45. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Yes, marcus, there was a big storm and electricity towers fell. That’s according to Kate.

    Poor James’ eye glaze over.

    He poits out that there have been four major blackouts in SA recently. Each time there is a different excuse and never seems to be the reliance on renewbles.

    Wind power provides 40% of the base load on average. Sometimes it can be up to 80% sometimes down to 2%. You need back ups to cover those huge swings.

  46. Megan

    This is shit

    I knew this without even watching a minute of it.

  47. egg_

    Yaz is the self-appointed technological brains trust tonight, obviously.
    Lambie is the best attack dog to shut her up.

  48. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Yass does not agree that renewables can provide a reliable base load. It works overseas, so it should do so here. We need to use the newer technology that’s available. Our grid is old and we are using our coal-fired stations past their use-by dates. We need to update.

    James agrees, and says, but we need time to transition.

    Yass says, oh, but we need the government to back it up.

    James: the government is providing billions in subsidies to renewables. but we still need time and strategies.

  49. egg_

    SnowCone Shuts down Lambie.

  50. Turtle of WA

    Yassmin didn’t listen to a word James said. Still got massive applause.

  51. George Wallace

    So basically this is the Yasmin show. A 25 year old who is barely out of Uni.

    James doing an excellent job, has all the statistics and facts – but this audience is motivated by pure emotion.

    Quite remarkable.

  52. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Next question: need more Centrelink for vulnerable people. Stop cutting payments in the omnibus bill.

  53. custard

    I’m out of here, sorry it’s the worst type of debate you’ll ever see.

  54. marcus w

    Has Jaquie honed her debating skills in the carpark at the footy ?

  55. Turtle of WA

    Lambie’s moment of clarity was short.

  56. PeterF

    The little corporal is shooting her mouth off tonite.

  57. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Jacqui: get your Liberal Party member to get onto their rich donors to pay their tax bills and stop taking from you poor people. And the welfare card is on the way, get ready they are targeting you.

    Fricken socialist claptrap.

    Jacqui was on welfare, single mother of two children and had to pay the childcare bills I feel your pain….

  58. Vic in Prossy

    Interruptions coming thick and fast.
    The woman in the green jacket is weird.

  59. egg_

    Almost the climate inquisition.

  60. egg_

    So basically this is the Yasmin show

    Snow Cone always has his go to panel expert.
    Invites viewers to point out inaccuracies after Lambie speaks on ‘climate change’.

  61. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Kate blathering earnestly. We should know that in the childcare package as it stands, the gov is proposing to spend over $1b and 1 in 4 families will still lose money. The most vulnerable children will miss out.

    Think of da childrun!

  62. PeterF

    Where’s the money coming you from you moron,for all the ALP mad schemes. This is the worst QandA panel and audience the ABC has put together.

  63. PeterF

    The children are our future. Aren’t they song lyrics?

  64. marcus w

    To quote comic book guy from the Simpsons … “worst episode ever ” … too many chicks

  65. Turtle of WA

    This show is a great argument against affirmative action.

  66. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Children can’t choose who their parents are or if the parents can’t or won’t work. This is according to the woman from the child care lobby. No vested interest there.

    Some children only get 24 hours of early childcare. She says this like it’s a bad thing. I disagree. The less formal early childhood training children are exposed to the better.

    LOL Jacqui jumps in, gasping in horror because some children are stuck in housing commission homes, third and fourth generation there and we need to get them out of there.

  67. Turtle of WA

    Why does that bogan keep barking?

  68. egg_

    Where’s the money coming

    Seems the solution to all issues tonight – more money.

  69. Turtle of WA

    This guy’s a tripper.

  70. PeterF

    Jackie forgot to take her meds tonite.

  71. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    James points out that there needs to be some participation – parents either working in jobs or volunteering in the community.

    Yass is horrified and exclaims that thta is sooo privileged of him and a prime example of the lack of diversity in government. I shite you not.

    Because as we know, young (25yo) Yassmin is a victim of oppression.

  72. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Someone needs to up Luca’s meds. He needs more amphetamines.

  73. Northshore Redneck

    James Peterson impresses. Copping it from the signallers in full retard mode though.

    Was it IT that brought up piano wire? Many good candidates on display.

  74. egg_

    This show is a great argument against affirmative action.

    Unanimous in solving all problems by spending more money (at the Ponds Institute?)

  75. Cpt Seahawks

    Don’t dis WA Yass

  76. Turtle of WA

    You can stick your smug scarequotes, Snowcone.

  77. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    LOl Q about Liberal preferencing One Nation in WA. Is this an admission that they can’t win?

    James: No, WA is just different and the dynamics re different to the rest of the country.

    since the dynamics are different in every state, this should be self-evident, but obvs not.

  78. Turtle of WA

    Yassmin loves the smell of her own farts.

  79. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Does Kate have any formal qualifications?

    She’s still wining about how Trumble hasn’t lived up to his promise.

  80. Cpt Seahawks

    Fake news from lefty female Pepe.

  81. egg_

    Ellis dissing One Nation – aren’t the ALP doing deals with them?
    Brought up by Snow Cone.

  82. Megan

    Why does that bogan keep barking?

    My neighbour’s dog is on Q&A?

  83. PeterF

    And the ALP will swap preferences with Greens who want to destroy capitalism and open borders.

  84. egg_

    Fake news from lefty female Pepe.

    (Kate Ellis).
    Running some interference tonight – got some coaching on talking points?

  85. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Ohhh, and here comes the muslim card! Yassmin sooks about One Nation and how it has a racist platform that wants to keep people like her out just for being muslim.

    #whattooksolong

  86. Northshore Redneck

    I want to ban this stupid xunt Yasmin

  87. marcus w

    Jacquie doesn’t believe that one Nation can sustain a party …… How is Clive’s party treating you Jacquie ?

  88. egg_

    Yaz catching Lambie-itis, getting frustrated and tongue tied – debating is tough when you’re not in an echo chamber?

  89. George Wallace

    Sorry. I’ve bailed. Couldn’t stand it.

    Awful television. Shds clearly a bright young woman, but how can a 25 year old be taken so seriously?

    As for Lambie. Words fail.

    ‘Night.

  90. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspeeklike

    The little corporal is shooting her mouth off tonite.

    Please don’t ever confuse Lambie with a real corporal – running a rifle section in the bush. Jacquie’s job was to wear the reflective gauntlets, and make sure all the trucks in the convoy went the same way.

  91. Northshore Redneck

    Teatowel head says islam is the most feminist religion.

    #fakenews

  92. Turtle of WA

    Stop telling lies Yazzy.

  93. Rich

    Just turned it on

    Slanging match – it appears the ABC have upped their game

  94. marcus w

    The chick with the hat …… Is it her show ? ….

  95. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Question about mass migration and culture and oppressions.

    questions about freedom of speech, freedom on expression, women’s rights and other things. Isn’t it time for democratic countries to set some rules about migration that will protect our rights? (my paraphrase)

    Snowcone throws to Jacqui who starts on full face coverings.

    Yassmin jumps in getting all shouty about sharia law. Does Jacqui know what sharia law is? She plays the feminist card. Some laughter ensues.

    We don’t take our husbands’ last names because we aren’t their property.
    Women in islam were the first to own land, they are equal to men.

    It says in islam that you follow the law of the land that you’re on. (note she forgets the bit that once you’re in a position of strength, muslims are supposed to start work on imposing sharia law).

  96. egg_

    Yaz dresses like a typical Aussie?
    An ambassador?

  97. Snoopy

    Does Kate have any formal qualifications?

    Uni drop out.

    She enrolled but left without completing a Bachelor of International Studies at Flinders University.

    /Wkipedia

  98. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Jacqui tells Yass to stop playing the victim.

    National security people around the world says that restrictions on certain populations make us less safe.

  99. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspeeklike

    Teatowel head says islam is the most feminist religion.

    Didn’t Baldrick post on the other thread that that was an outright lie?

  100. Turtle of WA

    Luca has a boring topic he can’t drop.

  101. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Egg, Yassy grew up here, the Australian culture is the only one she knows.

  102. Northshore Redneck

    Teatowel head says islam is the most feminist religion.

    Didn’t Baldrick post on the other thread that that was an outright lie?

    The majority Liberal audience applauded so it must be true.

  103. Turtle of WA

    Lefty asks about the “hard right” liberal party. Ha ha.

  104. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Woman over a certain age wearing red lipstick (BAD) worried that our ruling conservative party is dragging us to the extreme Right.

    James disagrees.

    So do Cats. Srsly. How Right is the Liberal Party today?

  105. PeterF

    What’s happened to Gay Marriage? No one has raised the topic yet. The ABC will be mortified.

  106. Rich

    Bunch of green voters think Libs are drifting right

    Yes, when they dumped Abbott for Turnbull, and the right wingers started leaving, and One Nation re emerged

    All clear symptoms of being too right wing

  107. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Kate sucks up to Yassy. We need more people like Yass. Jacqui sez, fine, but not with sharia law. llols

    Kate now talks to James and feels that Malcolm has sold out and made concessions to the Right that even Howard and Abbott wouldn’t make.

    I’m thinking Kate has a bit of a thing for Trumble. Sighing over Potential Greatness unrealised, I guess.

  108. egg_

    Yassy grew up here

    If she wore jeans and a t-shirt she’d look a different person.

  109. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    PeterF they won’t bring up gay marriage while Yassy’s on the panel.

  110. Northshore Redneck

    Oh so compassionate Kate signals she is grateful that feminist teatowel head is in this country. Very caring puppy dog eyes.

    I wonder for purely scientific purposes what piano wire would look like through them?

  111. Turtle of WA

    Yassmin’s pretty cheeky for a victim.

  112. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    She’d look more like your usual Australian.

  113. Northshore Redneck

    Lambi makes the point that senators should represent state interests.

    One and a half people clap.

    Those majority Liberal voters in the audience dont like Federalism much.

  114. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    10.33pm comment was for Egg.

  115. Beertruk

    Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspeeklike
    #2295382, posted on February 13, 2017 at 10:20 pm

    Wasn’t she a Steerer (driver) and then a Bush Pig (Military Police)?

  116. Turtle of WA

    So what does Yazzy do? Is life just a big taxpayer funded speaking tour of universities and left wing bookshops?

  117. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    What is the reported (snort) voter split for tonight’s audience?

  118. Grumpy Racist Homophobe

    >0.1 and <10,000.9876543

  119. Turtle of WA

    Lay off the acid, Luca.

  120. Northshore Redneck

    Youth without Borders Turtle.

    Dot is her biggest fan.

  121. PeterF

    She was a bush pig,and I think corporal is the lowest rank,if memory serves me correctly.

  122. egg_

    She’d look more like your usual Australian.

    She looks more casual on Australia Wide.

  123. Turtle of WA

    The result was not what the “intellectual elite” thought it would be. Yassmin means herself.

  124. Turtle of WA

    Piers playing token next week.

  125. Beertruk

    PeterF
    #2295421, posted on February 13, 2017 at 10:38 pm

    Corporal is the lowest rank in the Bush Pigs/Meatheads (just remembered they were called Meatheads as well)

  126. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Snowcone wants Yassy to wind up because we haven’t heard from here for a while on the Yassy AM Variety Hour.

    We need structural change, the system we have now is not protecting the weakest and most vulnerable, it’s not protecting the oppressed. It’s a system designed to keep those in power in power. The seats at the table are filled by people who want to keep the status quo.

    Of course Jacqui jumps in with her warcry of, “Get rid of political donations!” I’m hearing donation envy.

  127. Turtle of WA

    That was repulsive.

  128. PeterF

    This is a record for QAnd A. Never in the history of the show has gay marriage never had an outing.
    Good nite all, if I was a Catholic I’d say 50 Hail Mary’s after watching that shite.

  129. None

    OMG I just watched 20 minutes of…what the frigging hell was THAT? Just how stupid are those women (one moment i
    of clarity ftom the bogan…climate change happens…but talk about dull.. But geez Kate Ellis. Please. But Patterson touting the child care package -not even hammwrin Ellis for tje over priced mess she created? – that was me turning off. FFS pay for your own kids, you thieves.

  130. Northshore Redneck

    Undergoing FGM would have been more pleasurable.

    Will consider visiting Auburn next week instead, that most feminist religion may be able to hook me up.

  131. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    I saw her on Australia Wide the other day, Egg, and couldn’t change the channel fast enough. I’m surprised she can stand up, given the load of patriarchal oppression she carries on her young shoulders.

  132. egg_

    We need structural change, the system we have now is not protecting the weakest and most vulnerable, it’s not protecting the oppressed. It’s a system designed to keep those in power in power. The seats at the table are filled by people who want to keep the status quo.

    IIRC Yassmin is one of the ‘rich old white men’ crowd.

  133. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspeeklike

    Corporal is the lowest rank in the Bush Pigs/Meatheads (just remembered they were called Meatheads as well)

    Also known as “Elephant Trackers” and “Cripple Kickers.” Promotion to Corporal is automatic, to give you the authority to order the common soldiery about, but very slow indeed after that.

  134. Beertruk

    Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan
    #2295432, posted on February 13, 2017 at 10:43 pm

    Looking at the pic that Egg linked to, looks like she was wearing it on her head, Nilk.

  135. Beertruk

    Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspeeklike
    #2295437, posted on February 13, 2017 at 10:46 pm

    Yes, promotion to Corporal is automatic when you transfer the Meatheads as a digger from the other Corps, but they still have to do Subject One for Corporal and pass it. And it is indeed slow for promotion after that. 😉

  136. Caveman

    Im not watching but are there any hot chicks on the panel, even like goofy looking ones with glasses , so when they took them off they still like looked goofy but if you did a double take they looked hot , under the right light.

  137. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Sorry, Caveman. Just don’t go there.

  138. egg_

    Caveman
    #2295442, posted on February 13, 2017 at 10:52 pm

    Panel

    Ellis saved us from a Labor horror show.

  139. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspeeklike

    Corporal is the lowest rank in the Bush Pigs/Meatheads (just remembered they were called Meatheads as well)

    Jackie Lambie became pregnant, and gave birth twice, in her ten years of service. How long she would have spent on maternity leave and light duties is something I have wondered about.

  140. Habib

    Couldn’t be arsed watching, however skimming the thread, the thought occured to me that after a half century or more of feminism, it seems the main aim of females is to get some bloke to stump up for their bills. WTF has changed, except for the targeting?

  141. Habib

    & the male no longer gets a couple of months of fairly lack-luster shags now.

  142. Habib

    Fair chunk of the officers in the screws are chocks, almost all state coppers. They do the actual investigations, brief preperation etc. full time goons are usualy pricks too dumb for infantry and too lazy for the Q store. The Lambster’s a perfect example, especially working a ticket to dodge deployment, then having the hide to hit up DVA after a dishonourable. What a slag. Most actual discipline’s carried out by RSM/WOD/Buffers, those arseholes in the red hats are traffic controllers who give pissed a diggers a touch-up as long as they’ve got the numbers.

  143. Dave in Marybrook

    Reason for lack of Gay Marriage question- this weekend was the proposed date of the Lib’s SSM plebiscite, and so today marked a day when, in all likelihood, the parliament would have ratified the wishes of the public after a civil and consensual debate a la Ireland. The topic will be buried for a few weeks at least, it’s too uncomfortable for the born-to-rule Left.

  144. None

    Lambie is a malingerer. Never done an honest day’s work in her life. No surprise there. 60% of public service is women
    Most of them there for the benefits like mat leave.
    And from what I hear they milk it babe.

  145. John L

    Why don’t we try this:
    For the next panel leave out all experts, politicians, educated people, artist and just select idiots. We may get some value for money.

  146. Mark A

    Bit of facechooking or it may be of interest.
    If not, scroll!

    Arrived back home this evening from a long stint in Europe, it was a rather pleasant journey.
    Tried to post from Doha airport, they give you a generous 15 min. wifi time but the smartphone’s small screen and the fact I’m not used to it beat me.

    That’s not the point of the possible interest.

    I have done this trip at least a half a dozen times if not more, by various airlines, mostly by both Qatar and Emirates.

    What prompted me to post is an observation I made.
    Every time we depart from Melbourne the plane is full to both Doha and Dubai, every time, chockers!

    Yet every single time we depart from either airport to Melbourne the plane is filled to only to a max. 75%- 80% capacity. Today I had the full 3 seats to myself as did many others.

    Whyisitso?
    What happened to the min. 20% of passengers who are missing on the return flight?

    Would be interesting to know if others, flying with different airlines had the same experience.

    And thanks God, the security procedures have been streamlined in the last six months since my last overseas flight.

  147. None

    According to their ABC’s own bio, the Yass motormouth has never worked as an engineer. Just as diversity officer http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s4612398.htm. Insufferable pretentious twat sucking off the public teat.

  148. BorisG

    actually this one wasn’t too bad. Lamb-ie is a good entertainer (more like a wolf-ie).

  149. Andrew M.

    A reminder
    http://thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/sharia.aspx

    And how’s this for equal rights for women?
    http://thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/women-worth-less.aspx

    You can always cross-check these claims against the real deal (for example 2:228).

  150. whyisitso

    Mark A! Don’t use my name in vain.

  151. Tel

    Lambie is a malingerer. Never done an honest day’s work in her life.

    Exactly the sort of person I’d like to see writing laws for the rest of us.

    Better still if they are required to write those laws longhand.

    The less they write, the less time wasted reading it.

  152. Tom

    Thanks for sacrificing yourselves, Cats. Sounds like it was a shocker.

  153. Mark M

    I saw the first question, and went to bed.
    O/T, here is a link:
    We Used Terrible Science to Justify Smoking Bans
    “Updated science debunks the alarmist fantasies that were used to sell smoking bans to the public, allowing for a more sober analysis.”
    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2017/02/secondhand_smoke_isn_t_as_bad_as_we_thought.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_ru
    Enjoy.

  154. Tel

    From the news com link …

    http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/your-ban-got-lifted-get-over-it-lambie-and-muslim-engineer-lock-horns-on-qa/news-story/2b2940a1d51fb8fb5731c4da3987b3e4

    Liberal Senator James Paterson was criticised for being out of touch in a debate on the Government’s new childcare package.Source:ABC

    Well he couldn’t be so very out of touch… he’s only just recently graduated from childcare.

    BTW did Murdoch’s crew search long and hard for a frame that would make Kate Ellis look dopey and totally out of it? Or is that just how she normally looks? I avoid watching the show…

  155. Rabz

    From the Oz:

    Antonio Jones Jr ($416,222) has intervened after Ms Lambie and Ms Abdel-Magied began shouting at each other while debating the proposed burqa ban.

    Fake news and quality j’ism purveyed via a taxpayer funded televisual feast on the ALPBC.

    Why peoples would willingly subject themselves to such an abomination is beyond me.

  156. nerblnob

    I looked this dame Yassmin up.

    She’s a graduate in engineering who’s never actually worked as an engineer, as far as I can make out.

    If she’d done a Master’s in Mechanical Engineering, usually the minimum for a major oil/gas company, she’d have done five years and graduated at around 23. She’s what now, 25? This person would have no experience worth listening to.

    I’m not a credentialist, but the hype about her being a “certified engineer” (who isn’t?) seems misleading. Also I’ve never seen the ABC show any respect for engineers before.

  157. nilk

    Per None’s comment about Yassmin and her lack of actual real-job skills, I’ve been trying to find out exactly what she did when she was working for Big Oil, and came across this episode of QandA from early 2015. Read the transcript and see exactly what she’s got to say.

    She prattles on with all the usual boiler-plate stuff, but as a feminist, she’s got nothing on Germaine Greer or even Roxane Gay, who are both on that panel.

    Here’s an example:

    YASSMIN ABDEL-MAGIED: Fair. Fair. But in response to the question, like, I also work with a lot of blokes and a lot of them don’t like the idea of female – and they may not necessarily say, “We don’t like the idea of female equality”, but the moment they earn more than their missus they’re like, “Yeah, buddy!” And it’s still an important thing and, I mean, I was thinking about this the other day and I was like it’s when you are the only child and you get to have the cake and then all of a sudden there is a second child, and the second child is as equal but somehow you’ve got to share the cake and you’re like, “But I don’t want to share the cake.” It’s like, well, you know, you have to. You’ve got to share the power and, unfortunately, we’re in a – we live in a society that is patriarchal and so the power isn’t shared equal and so what we’re asking for, what we’re perhaps demanding, is that the power is shared equally and people aren’t going to like that. Change is never friendly. But, you know, it’s – the women’s movement, if we’re going to call it that, has been of the least – is one associated with the least bloodshed, with the least, sort of like – like, if you think about big change in the world, we’ve do it done pretty nicely so far and on a bit of an alternative note, as a Muslim woman, I’m often asked, you know, how can you possibly be a Muslim and be a feminist, and the word “feminist” in the Muslim community is extremely inflammatory at the moment. You know, even in my own, you know, Sudanese community, if I sort of wandered around and be like, “You guy, I’m a feminist”, you know, no one would eat my cakes. But the way I actually see it, is it’s interesting because – and I’m going to sort of use generalisations – I think Western feminism sees religion as a tool of oppression, whereas I see and a lot of Muslim women see our religion as a tool of liberation and as a basis to say, “Hey, you know, we all agree that, you know, this book is divine, for example, and we’ve been given equal rights in this book, so you have to agree with it.” And so when we talk about the label of feminism, it is a very sort of monocultured concept, but it’s also important to recognise that there are a lot of other people that are trying to deal with all the sort of intersectionalities of different identities and there are different ways of finding where that equality sits.

  158. Rabz

    did Murdoch’s crew search long and hard for a frame that would make Kate Ellis look dopey and totally out of it?

    No need, Tel, she always looks that way.

  159. Rabz

    if I sort of wandered around and be like, “You guy, I’m a feminist”, you know, no one would eat my cakes

    Or drink your milk shakes, presumably.

  160. egg_

    Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Thanks for your live blogging efforts, as always, I’m sure those who don’t/can’t watch would appreciate it.

  161. egg_

    did Murdoch’s crew search long and hard for a frame that would make Kate Ellis look dopey and totally out of it?

    I think that she purposely avoided looking at the ceiling, looking into the mid-distance instead (coached?), which made her look even dumber than usual.

  162. egg_

    a lot of blokes and a lot of them don’t like the idea of female…

    Your Muslim cohorts, you mean?
    Women have been in Engineering in the West for at least a generation.

  163. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspeeklike

    And so when we talk about the label of feminism, it is a very sort of monocultured concept, but it’s also important to recognise that there are a lot of other people that are trying to deal with all the sort of intersectionalities of different identities and there are different ways of finding where that equality sits.

    I have read this piece three times. What language is it written in?

  164. egg_

    Yass motormouth has never worked as an engineer. Just as diversity officer

    Those that can do, those that can’t…

  165. egg_

    Lambie is a malingerer. Never done an honest day’s work in her life.

    Exactly the sort of person I’d like to see writing laws for the rest of us.

    She may know how to close loopholes that cheats can see a mile away – not totally wasted?
    (Or, conversely, turn a blind eye to them?)

  166. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspeeklike

    So we have mechanical engineers, electrical engineers and now, apparently, Muslim engineers.

    It’s the will of Allah if something works, or doesn’t?

  167. egg_

    And so when we talk about the label of feminism, it is a very sort of monocultured concept, but it’s also important to recognise that there are a lot of other people that are trying to deal with all the sort of intersectionalities of different identities and there are different ways of finding where that equality sits.

    Sounds like a sausage factory – different in, same out.
    Seems like cognitive dissonance as she’s trying to grapple with dogma vs reality.

  168. egg_

    So we have mechanical engineers, electrical engineers and now, apparently, Muslim engineers.

    Left-hand-only crappers?

  169. P

    http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/d2bc9b81c881cc2d80095e668fa044dd?width=650

    Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull hosts an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan at Kirribilli House in Sydney on Thursday 16 June 2016. Guests included broadcaster Waleed Aly.
    Next to him was his wife, academic Susan Carland, also an occasional ABC presenter. Then, on Turnbull’s right, sat Yassmin Abdel-Magied, self-declared Islamic youth advocate and yet another ABC favourite.
    These were the people Turnbull wanted to showcase as the authentic and reassuring face of Muslim Australia.

  170. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspeeklike

    Then, on Turnbull’s right, sat Yassmin Abdel-Magied, self-declared Islamic youth advocate and yet another ABC favourite.

    Thank you, P. Was wondering where I’d heard the name.

  171. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    a lot of blokes and a lot of them don’t like the idea of female…

    Your Muslim cohorts, you mean?
    Women have been in Engineering in the West for at least a generation.

    Longer than that, egg. Try at least a century. And Emily Warren Roebling did more than a couple of years as an assistant to a drilling supervisor for Shell before swanning off to become the poster-girl for Diversity in Australia.

    Mrs. Warren taught herself the mathematics and physics necessary to complete the construction of the Brooklyn Bridge in New York after her husband got sick and was unable to do so. And she did it without whining about religion or patriarchy or oppression. She saw a need and did what had to be done.

  172. Dr Fred Lenin

    Habibwhen i was young men were called “le sex payant ” the Paying sex in France so your observation ws correct , things have not changed , Probably never will !

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