Monday Forum: March 6, 2017

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  1. Andreas

    We went through this weeks ago, Fisky. There are transcripts. Police have to build a rock solid case on this stuff with corroborating evidence, that takes time.

    How can it you get much more rock solid than voice recordings of someone colluding with the Russians? What more would you need? A framed picture of Putin on their wall, a cache of documents titled “My secret plans to collude with the Russians to steal the election”?

    They’ve got nothing. If there was any evidence whatever it would have been leaked by now.

  2. Nick

    So they’ve now fallen back to arguing that, sure, Obama wiretapped the Trump campaign but it was only the senior staff.

    From: it never happened, to only happened to senior staff.

  3. C.L.

    I’ve never seen the like of this fuck-up in my lifetime.
    Obama spied on the Trump campaign in the ‘knowledge’ that Hillary Clinton would be elected president and when she wasn’t they were forced to run with The Wussians! as a distraction. So in the first instance the New York Times and other left-wing papers were triumphantly touting “dossiers” and “intelligence” on Trump and The Wussians; that would undermine Trump’s attacks on Hillary’s bathroom server etc. Hahaha. Then, oopsa-daisy, Trump was elected POTUS. Now leftists are pulling out Whoopi Goldberg again. Sure, Obama spied. But it wasn’t spying spying.

  4. lotocoti

    employees for the ABC’s specialist television and radio programs remain nervous as to how any potential cuts will affect them.

    They’ll have only three Ass. Prods, per programme, to fetch their fair trade decaf soy cappuccinos from that delightful Yemeni deli, two suburbs away.

  5. Gab

    From: it never happened, to only happened to senior staff.

    to it happened because local police suddenly have foreign surveillance jurisdiction.

  6. egg_

    Sudanese drop-in centres within Goats Cheese Circle

    Is there a reason why they settle(d) reffos in low employment regional areas – not just NIMBYism?

  7. Uhuh. And how do you suppose those transcripts were acquired?

    Manafort, Page, Carter and Flynn were wiretapped. Trump was not, as far as can be ascertained from public facts. This is not difficult to understand, Fisky.

  8. PoliticoNT

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Brendon Grylls go down in a heap – he was my local member for a few years, and it was all about Brendon “I know best, who are you to contradict me?”.

    Zulu – and there you have described with beautiful simplicity everything that is wrong with modern politics. When there’s an issue that is bugging the electorate (say youth crime in Melbourne, and in my home town of Darwin) the parliamentarians turn first to their advisers (policy and media) to work out a response. Then various other experts. Then their departments. Never for a moment do they bother with asking ordinary members from their local branch – who as you well know have more expertise, common sense and decent values than any of the afor-mentioned deplorables.

    (On a related note I’ve been working with my local branch on the issue and without exception the ordinary members are in favour. The local MP was annoyed but is now hedging their bets. The advisory staff have gone ballistic.)

  9. Andreas

    m0nty’s the new Michael Smith – “They’re just building a case and collecting all the evidence, it takes time! These guys are professionals!” Is he going to move in with Hillary and live in her garden shed?

  10. Fisky

    So they’ve now fallen back to arguing that, sure, Obama wiretapped the Trump campaign but it was only the senior staff.

    From: it never happened, to only happened to senior staff.

    Right. Manafort owns an apartment in Trump Tower. He spent all of his time there during the campaign while he was allegedly colluding with Russians. But there was no interest in Trump himself, just Manafort and a couple others.

    Hmmmmyesss!

  11. srr

    max
    #2318296, posted on March 7, 2017 at 11:36 am
    Melbourne = Mogadishu and the fuckwits keep voting for it.

    What ?

    You think it’s different in Sydney ?

    Or Brisbane ? Or Adelaide ?

    God, I hope Pauline kicks ass in Perth this Saturday.

    Yeah, they are different.

    Victoria’s chock full of Aussies fighting back, even at the risk of arrests, court and gaol. 😉 🙂

  12. Grigory M

    The police were listening in on Manafort colluding with Russians. The police!

    The Police? – Sting had this to say.

  13. Fisky

    Manafort, Page, Carter and Flynn were wiretapped. Trump was not, as far as can be ascertained from public facts. This is not difficult to understand, Fisky.

    Thank you. So we are back to the contents of the second FISA warrant, and whether Trump was included in the net indirectly (i.e. in an attempt to monitor “foreign” communications). We of course know for a fact that Obama wanted to target Trump by name in the first warrant.

    This is going to be great!

  14. Gab

    When did the wiretapping on Trump start and when was it stopped?

  15. Fisky

    Obama spied on the Trump campaign in the ‘knowledge’ that Hillary Clinton would be elected president and when she wasn’t they were forced to run with The Wussians! as a distraction. So in the first instance the New York Times and other left-wing papers were triumphantly touting “dossiers” and “intelligence” on Trump and The Wussians; that would undermine Trump’s attacks on Hillary’s bathroom server etc. Hahaha. Then, oopsa-daisy, Trump was elected POTUS. Now leftists are pulling out Whoopi Goldberg again. Sure, Obama spied. But it wasn’t spying spying.

    We don’t know this for absolute certain yet, but it is definitely looking that way. The fact that the other side are furiously lying and covering their asses is a “tell”, in Scott Adams’ parlance.

  16. Hey CL, can you please post the money quote from the NYT story proving that Trump himself got wiretapped? Not the Gateway Pundit, the NYT.

  17. Myrddin Seren

    The cited NYT yarn specifically says the wiretap was on Trump aides, and there was no hard evidence of it being on Trump himself.

    I am willing to be guided by someone more technically astute, like Tel, but I am pretty sure we are past the days where a couple of copper wires would be crimped at the local exchange and et voila, the wire she is tapped ?

    I am guessing yuge amounts of cabling running in to Trump Tower and lines running voice or data as required. And a subset of these lines being Trump Inc, versus other tenants.

    So I am assuming monitoring Trump team physical lines will by extension consist of monitoring all the Trump lines to try and catch individual calls and data transmission. Surely it must be like those long deep sea trawler nets – everything gets swept up and then, theoretically, the warranted targets get the official transcript treatment ? Mobiles will be different of course.

    If people in Trump Tower were the object of surveillance, surely everyone was recorded – followed by an editorial process to accord with the FISA warrant.

  18. Nick

    What happened to the surveillance information that was collected ?
    Erm nothing, it was just selectively leaked to damage both Trump and his team.

    Bingo.

  19. Gab

    So if Obama’s top aides had been wiretapped that means Obama was not wiretapped? Is that the latest argument from the Left?

  20. Bruce of Newcastle

    Manafort, Page, Carter and Flynn were wiretapped.

    Nixon only had the DNC wiretapped, not McGovern.
    He didn’t serve in the pen only because he was pardoned by Ford.
    I doubt Trump will be pardoning Obama when the latter is running a shadow administration and OFA insurgency.
    Pen for you sonny, cell next to Crooked.

  21. C.L.

    So then: Monty’s defence of Obama is that he was only bugging the Trump campaign, not Trump.

    Good luck with that.

  22. Nick

    Sudanese drop-in centres within Goats Cheese Circle

    Nah egg, Bogan drop in centres, now that would really annoy them 🙂

  23. srr

    Tucker Carlson GOES OFF on Politicians,
    Says They Hate Trump

    The Daily Sh*t Show

  24. Leigh Lowe

    So they’ve now fallen back to arguing that, sure, Obama wiretapped the Trump campaign but it was only the senior staff.

    From: it never happened, to only happened to senior staff.

    Oh, and of course, when the senior staff were calling their boss, they immediately scrubbed the tape… yeah?

  25. C.L.

    Nixon only had the DNC wiretapped, not McGovern.

    Indeed.

  26. Grigory M

    a “tell”

    How Thuy – anyone for victim poker? or shooting apples off a kid’s head?

  27. srr

    Tucker Carlson Reacts To The Trump Tower Wiretapping Scandal
    3/6/17 Fox And Friends

  28. Well a quick scan through the Oz answered my early morning question as to who dreamt up the 18c “reasonable persons” arsehattery. Yep, no surprises it was a fucking lawyer and a STUPID FUCKING LIBERALS lawyer to boot, none other than Cornetto Firevanity-Walls.

    A few pages later and there is JC’s mate in full head-tilty splendour, looking smug as he prepares to be fellated by the ABC and the gentry of Newtown next Monday.

    We also learn the surprising news that there are actually men at the ABC though they won’t be doing any work tomorrow as they are being replaced by wymminses from THE most feminist religion who will rant and rave about how hard done by and oppressed women in Western countries are. After feminists submit to THE most feminist religion we hope they wear their actual clitorii on their head after having them hacked off. It would be an ideal way to show their solidarity with the oppressed Western woman (assuming there are any left by then).

    Lastly, the Pyongyang of the Southern hemisphere wants to have eeekwal opportunity crossings for their pedestrians and pedostrians (the kindly folk who teach the Safe Schools program), though Kim Dan the Third hasn’t thought through how they will be powered after Hazelwood closes. IMHO the best plan would be to replace the STOP man with a flashing Centrelink logo, then all the moochers will charge across the road and be mown down by oncoming traffic.

    And to close, the weather; it’s grey, dull and miserable with no signs of change, which coincidentally is also the future for this country.

  29. Bruce of Newcastle

    Myrddin – the NYT story uses the term ‘electronic surveillance’. We’re using ‘wiretap’ as a euphemism, with hat tip to juicy US history.

    The intercepts would have been from the usual – landlines, mobiles, backdoors, whatever.
    Found zilch.

  30. H B Bear

    Is he going to move in with Hillary and live in her garden shed?

    Does mUnty mind sharing with Huma?

  31. Rococo Liberal

    They tapped the Trump campaign and they still couldn’t win?
    The Democrats are hopeless gits.

  32. herodotus

    And it only happened on days ending in y.

  33. C.L.

    Paul McGeough brings a classic …

    Trump claim of Obama spying is crazy … but, on the other hand, it’s totally true:

    There are two ways to look at the crazed Twitter storm early on Saturday, in which the US President accused former president Barack Obama of criminally ordering wiretaps on Trump Tower.

    Were the tweets an after-the-fact distraction from Attorney-General Jeff Sessions complicating Trump’s Russia nightmare, with his failure to disclose his meetings with the Russian ambassador and then his embarrassing recusal from any Justice Department deliberations on the various Russian-links inquiries; or was this a pre-emptive smokescreen for the shortcomings of Trump’s revised executive order on migration, released on Monday morning?

    Or did Trump’s bout of tweeted rage serve to shine a light on a little-noticed body of evidence on the Trump campaign’s Russian connections that warrants further investigation, because any request by the security agencies for court approval for the kind of surveillance alleged by Trump required it to produce a body of believable evidence?

  34. Fisky

    This is from Heat Street published on November 7. It was authored by Louise Mensch (former UK MP), who is a rabid NeverTrumper.

    Please note the bolding in the last paragraph quoted –

    Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.

    Contrary to earlier reporting in the New York Times, which cited FBI sources as saying that the agency did not believe that the private server in Donald Trump’s Trump Tower which was connected to a Russian bank had any nefarious purpose, the FBI’s counter-intelligence arm, sources say, re-drew an earlier FISA court request around possible financial and banking offenses related to the server. The first request, which, sources say, named Trump, was denied back in June, but the second was drawn more narrowly and was granted in October after evidence was presented of a server, possibly related to the Trump campaign, and its alleged links to two banks; SVB Bank and Russia’s Alfa Bank. While the Times story speaks of metadata, sources suggest that a FISA warrant was granted to look at the full content of emails and other related documents that may concern US persons.

    The FBI agents who talked to the New York Times, and rubbished the ground-breaking stories of Slate ( Franklin Foer) and Mother Jones (David Corn) may not have known about the FISA warrant, sources say, because the counter-intelligence and criminal sides of the FBI often work independently of each other employing the principle of ‘compartmentalization’.

    The FISA warrant was granted in connection with the investigation of suspected activity between the server and two banks, SVB Bank and Alfa Bank. However, it is thought in the intelligence community that the warrant covers any ‘US person’ connected to this investigation, and thus covers Donald Trump and at least three further men who have either formed part of his campaign or acted as his media surrogates. The warrant was sought, they say, because actionable intelligence on the matter provided by friendly foreign agencies could not properly be examined without a warrant by US intelligence as it involves ‘US Persons’ who come under the remit of the FBI and not the CIA. Should a counter-intelligence investigation lead to criminal prosecutions, sources say, the Justice Department is concerned that the chain of evidence have a basis in a clear warrant.

    So in other words, two Counter-Intel spooks told Louise Mensch just before the election that a FISA warrant had been approved in October to look at the full contents of communications (not just metadata) from the Trump campaign, and that this covered Trump himself.

    Interestingly, Mensch is now on Twitter trying to hose down her own story! LOL.

    Game, set, match.

  35. So then: Monty’s defence of Obama is that he was only bugging the Trump campaign, not Trump.

    The spooks were bugging the foreign policy aides, not the campaign. They only got the warrant because federal judges deemed probable cause of collusion with a foreign power.

    Drip, drip, drip.

  36. Fisky

    The spooks were bugging the foreign policy aides, not the campaign. They only got the warrant because federal judges deemed probable cause of collusion with a foreign power.

    Drip, drip, drip.

    Oh my fucking god, this is going to be the biggest rake of all time.

  37. C.L.

    McGeough just admitted there is a “body of evidence on the Trump campaign’s Russian connections” collected by “security agencies” acting at the behest of the Obama administration – which is to say, Obama.

  38. Grigory M

    Hey, CNN – you watching? This is how it’s done. A C.L., or someone similar provides a link to the Gateway Pundit and states that it shows some non-existent “facts” – then, all of a sudden every body is up on their feet, dancing around, waving their arms and looking to the skies.

    Huh? – Mel Gibson? – nah, haven’t seen him.

  39. Myrddin Seren

    Bruce

    the NYT story uses the term ‘electronic surveillance’. We’re using ‘wiretap’ as a euphemism, with hat tip to juicy US history.

    The intercepts would have been from the usual – landlines, mobiles, backdoors, whatever.

    In my clumsy way – that is my point. In a modern building, what difference exists between most phone and data lines, except maybe fibre optics.

    With PABXs feeding data out as voice or bytes, how could the phones and data lines be electronically surveilled for one or two warranted individuals without scanning all the lines out of Trump Co ? If someone was being monitored on Trump Co comms – everyone was being monitored on Trump Co comms.

  40. C.L.

    So then: leftists are saying there is no evidence Trump was spied on

    On the other hand, they’re saying there is evidence he was spied on.

  41. Andreas

    The spooks were bugging the foreign policy aides, not the campaign. They only got the warrant because federal judges deemed probable cause of collusion with a foreign power.

    Judges aren’t tech savy, they probably used the “Trump secret server” bullshit and the judges fell for it. Just as someone here with a penchant for rakes did…

  42. Nick

    One can only imagine if Trump had ordered that the building containing Obama’s office, residence and senior staff be wire tapped, that the left would be using terms such as ‘outrageous’ , in fact, you could bet on a mass protest demonstration occurring.

  43. Fisky

    So then: leftists are saying there is no evidence Trump was spied on

    I believe the claim is: there is no evidence anyone spied on Trump, but the spooks have proof he is a Manchurian candidate from Moscow!

  44. Nick

    The spooks were bugging the foreign policy aides

    What kind of policy aide was Sessions?

  45. Roger

    On the topic of swamps needing to be drained:

    The archbishop now at the helm of the Pontifical Academy for Life paid a homosexual artist to paint a blasphemous homoerotic mural in his cathedral church in 2007. The mural includes an image of the archbishop himself.

    The archbishop, Vincenzo Paglia, was also recently appointed by Pope Francis as president of the Pontifical Pope John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family.

    The massive mural still covers the opposite side of the facade of the cathedral church of the Diocese of Terni-Narni-Amelia. It depicts Jesus carrying nets to heaven filled with naked and semi-nude homosexuals, transsexuals, prostitutes, and drug dealers, jumbled together in erotic interactions.

    RTWT

    What if offensive, it should be said, is not the thought that homosexuals, prostitutes and such like should be enter heaven. No-one who knows the Gospels would gainsay that. But the condition for them doing so is, as for everyone, repentance from their sin. As the report recounts, the erotic mural is a none to subtle gobbitt of spit in the face of Christ and His church on the part of the artist and presumably the bishop who commissioned him who has since been promoted to high office by Pope Francis.

  46. Combine Dave

    Why is Maocolm in Indonesia? just

    Aid balances need to be topped up.

  47. The spooks were bugging the foreign policy aides, not the campaign.

    Oh my god.

  48. test pattern

    ‘Russian connections’

    Russians are just snapfrozen Cubans. NATO should invade Kaliningrad.

  49. Drip, drip, drip.

    Monty, get some adult diapers or see a urologist.
    Your constant wetting yourself at the imminent destruction of the Socialist Scum in the U.S (and soon sweeping the Western world) is making the thread smelly.

  50. Fisky

    Allow me to bold the key points from Mensch’s November 7 article –

    Contrary to earlier reporting in the New York Times, which cited FBI sources as saying that the agency did not believe that the private server in Donald Trump’s Trump Tower which was connected to a Russian bank had any nefarious purpose, the FBI’s counter-intelligence arm, sources say, re-drew an earlier FISA court request around possible financial and banking offenses related to the server. The first request, which, sources say, named Trump, was denied back in June, but the second was drawn more narrowly and was granted in October after evidence was presented of a server, possibly related to the Trump campaign, and its alleged links to two banks; SVB Bank and Russia’s Alfa Bank. While the Times story speaks of metadata, sources suggest that a FISA warrant was granted to look at the full content of emails and other related documents that may concern US persons.

    The FISA warrant was granted in connection with the investigation of suspected activity between the server and two banks, SVB Bank and Alfa Bank. However, it is thought in the intelligence community that the warrant covers any ‘US person’ connected to this investigation, and thus covers Donald Trump and at least three further men who have either formed part of his campaign or acted as his media surrogates. The warrant was sought, they say, because actionable intelligence on the matter provided by friendly foreign agencies could not properly be examined without a warrant by US intelligence as it involves ‘US Persons’ who come under the remit of the FBI and not the CIA. Should a counter-intelligence investigation lead to criminal prosecutions, sources say, the Justice Department is concerned that the chain of evidence have a basis in a clear warrant.

    So here’s what happened. The Obama admin applied for an initial warrant in June to wiretap Donald Trump because LOL, and FISC sensibly denied it. So then in October they applied for another warrant on the basis of the Secret Server in Trump Tower boogiemonster, which did not specifically name anyone, but could look at the full contents of communications of anyone connected to this server. Which included Trump, according to CI sources. This is indisputable.

    And CI leaked this to the anti-Trump press at the time – see Louise Mensch’s article, and at least one story in the NYT. But now everyone is denying their own reports just four months ago!

    So, the only thing that we really need to establish is whether Obama literally ordered his AG to apply for the second warrant, or whether she did it without bothering to inform her boss or seek his consent (mmmmyesss).

  51. Tracey

    Unless my eyes deceive me every single link relating to the Trump campaign being bugged has disappeared from Drudge.

  52. Mike of Marion

    Today’s Essential Poll

    Q. If a Federal Election was held today to which party will you probably give your first preference vote? If not sure, which party are you currently leaning toward? If don’t know – Well which party are you currently leaning to?

    Total Last week 28/2/17 2 weeks ago 21/2/17 4 weeks ago 7/2/17 Election 2 Jul 16
    Liberal 34% 34% 33% 33%
    National 3% 3% 3% 2%
    Total Liberal/National 37% 37% 36% 36% 42.0%
    Labor 37% 37% 34% 37% 34.7%
    Greens 9% 9% 10% 8% 10.2%
    Nick Xenophon Team 3% 3% 4% 3%
    Pauline Hanson’s One Nation 9% 9% 10% 10%
    Other/Independent 5% 6% 6% 6% 13.1%
    2 party preferred
    Liberal National 47% 47% 48% 47% 50.4%
    Labor 53% 53% 52% 53% 49.6%
    NB. Sample = 1,786. The data in the above tables comprise 2-week averages derived from the first preference/leaning to voting questions. Respondents who select ‘don’t know’ are not included in the results. The two-party preferred estimate is calculated by distributing the votes of the other parties according to their preferences at the 2016 election.

  53. What kind of policy aide was Sessions?

    They didn’t bug Sessions. They bugged the ambassador.

  54. Gab

    The spooks were bugging the foreign policy aides

    Oh so now it’s not the local police as earlier asserted?

    Those rakes just keeping changing the goal posts.

  55. Hydra

    Does Other include conservative party?

  56. Geriatric Mayfly

    Drip, drip, drip. Plop!

  57. Fisky

    It’s going to be fun to watch the FakeNews media have their reputations shredded on the basis of this. The reputations of Louise Mensch and Michael Schmidt are now irrecoverable.

    Well played by Trump. By going for the highest accusation at the outset and eliciting the furious blanket denials from the media, we are going to end up establishing the truth at approximately “Obama’s AG ordered wiretapping of Donald Trump, but please believe us when we say Obama had nothing to do with it!”

    Unfortunately, that will be irreconcilable with their furious asscovering and handwaving about “no wiretapping at alls!11!”. Which is another FakeNews own goal.

  58. Unless my eyes deceive me every single link relating to the Trump campaign being bugged has disappeared from Drudge.

    They got to him too! Awesome.

  59. Fisky

    They didn’t bug Sessions. They bugged the ambassador.

    No, that is not what happened at all. The correct term is “any US persons” connected to the Trump Tower server, which was claimed to have links to two Russian banks. Which means practically anyone, including Trump.

    This was reported very casually, matter-of-factly, until about 5 minutes ago.

  60. notafan
    #2318335, posted on March 7, 2017 at 12:44 pm
    the forgotten story of the attempted extermination of the Vendée,
    The model for Lenin, apparently.

    New Film Exposes The Left’s First Genocide

    Good grief, how many more times are we going to let history repeat itself?

    The Hidden Rebellion retells the forgotten story of the attempted extermination of the Vendée, residents of a conservative “rather more Christian and prosperous region of France.”

    In response, Paris labeled Vendéans to be an “impure race” and “slaves” and gave military commanders a mandate to exterminate them. Not just peasant soldiers, or even young men, but all Vendéans, including women, the elderly, and children. In all, they managed to exterminate 200,000 out of an estimated population of 600,000… a higher proportion than Pol Pot’s Cambodian Genocide.

  61. Fisky

    I really love this idea of an open warrant being issued (“any US persons”) not naming anyone in particular, but who the media/Left insist was narrowly focused only on four Trump aides, and somehow quarantined from Trump himself.

    I don’t think so!

  62. egg_

    The intercepts would have been from the usual – landlines, mobiles

    Not at the handset – at the Carrier by the Law Enforcement Liaison Unit via software (“Call Detail Records’ &c.) it’s a standard interface on OEM exchange networks for decades.

  63. Tracey

    They got to him too! Awesome.

    Ah Monty. Watch where you step 🤣

  64. classical_hero

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/01/that-secret-trump-russia-email-server-link-is-likely-neither-secret-nor-a-trump-russia-link/?utm_term=.651a6b8fcc03

    So they spied on a server that wasn’t secret or a link to Russia. No wonder why they found nothing because Trump set them up for the fall. Many people are going to prison for this.

  65. classical_hero

    The left are murderous, genocidal maniacs.

  66. La Deplorevole Tintarella di Luna

    The left are murderous, genocidal maniacs.

    Fact check: doğru

  67. egg_

    WHAT HAPPENS WHEN a secret U.S. court allows the National Security Agency access to a massive pipeline of U.S. phone call metadata, along with strict rules on how the spy agency can use the information?

  68. Fisky

    Another person who is going to get scorched by this is the US’s own Michael Smith, a former CI spook called John Schindler. Banished from Twitter after posting dick pics in 2014, he reemerged (@20committee) as a NeverTrumper claiming all sorts of hogwash about Trump being a Russian spy/collaborator/sock-puppet.

    Of course, he was receiving leaks from CI all the way through 2016, as was his ally Louise Mensch, and posting breathless nonsense about Trump being in bed with the Russians, which CI was going to blow the lid off Any Day Now.

  69. Fisky

    By the way. There is something else we need to consider relating to this FISA warrant. From Mensch’s article –

    The warrant was sought, they say, because actionable intelligence on the matter provided by friendly foreign agencies could not properly be examined without a warrant by US intelligence as it involves ‘US Persons’ who come under the remit of the FBI and not the CIA

    It would be very interesting to know which foreign intelligence agencies provided the “actionable intelligence” that was the trigger for this second FISA warrant. Because if the intelligence was actually made up fraudulent garbage, this suggests a deliberate attempt to interfere in the US election by foreign governments.

    Not Russia. Probably Germany, France, and a couple other countries that absolutely did not want Trump to win the election, and were willing to do anything to stop this.

    Of course, this begs the question as to whether these foreign intelligence agencies produced this “actionable intelligence” off their own bat, or whether they were requested to supply a phoney dossier by someone in the Obama administration.

    I really hope it isn’t the latter, because all kinds of charges could be triggered here, and that wouldn’t be a good look, would it?

  70. Fisky

    There is an important rule I need to remind people of. Whenever you want to discover what the Left are up to, always look at what they are accusing others of, and you will have your answer.

    “Foreign interference in the election…”

  71. egg_

    For law enforcement, call detail records provide a wealth of information that can help to identify suspects, in that they can reveal details as to an individual’s relationships with associates, communication and behavior patterns, and even location data that can establish the whereabouts of an individual during the entirety of the call. For companies with PBX telephone systems, call detail records provide a means of tracking long-distance access, can monitor telephone usage by department or office, and can create listing of incoming and outgoing calls.

    Of course, they’re not telling Joe Public that they can monitor and record your audio, as well – even cellphones are routed through exchanges and the network obviously has to track its location for billing, etc.

  72. Jo Smyth

    I hope President Trump is having a statue of Mark Levin commissioned and erected in front of the White House.

  73. Fisky

    I wonder if the Obama administration had to actually provide anything substantial in terms of foreign intelligence to the FISC when applying for the second warrant, or whether they just have to state that there has been a “tip-off” from an agency, of course they don’t really know the details, that’s why we MUST get this warrant approved!

    Is that what happened? I hope they didn’t lie, because that might carry serious consequences.

    Their last shot at avoiding jail might have been just before the electoral college voted, when they were furiously trying to flip delegates with fake “Russia” intel.

  74. classical_hero

    Fisky, that’s my attitude towards the left also.

  75. Infidel Tiger

    David Reaboi‏ @davereaboi
    Can’t be said enough: if media/Obama flunkies are to be believed over last 48 hrs, their reporting/statements since September were all lies.

  76. Myrddin Seren

    I wonder if the Obama administration had to actually provide anything substantial in terms of foreign intelligence to the FISC when applying for the second warrant, or whether they just have to state that there has been a “tip-off” from an agency, of course they don’t really know the details, that’s why we MUST get this warrant approved!

    Deep State rep: Your Honor, we have very reliable intel that Donald Trump got two Russkie hooks to pee on a mattress that our revered POTUS had slept in in a 5-star Moscow Hotel – and the bill for the mattress was picked up by the Russian secret service !

    ‘Wow’ thinks FISA judge – ‘I took a bath robe once and the hotel billed me for it. Trump must be a Russian lackey if he can get away with THAT ! ‘

  77. Dr Faustus

    No, that is not what happened at all. The correct term is “any US persons” connected to the Trump Tower server, which was claimed to have links to two Russian banks. Which means practically anyone, including Trump.

    The FBI were reportedly in possession of the Christopher Steel ‘Golden Shower’ dossier at the time of the second, successful, FISA application. Steele was reported to be a “credible source with a proven record of providing reliable, sensitive, and important information to the US Government“.

    Steele reported: “[Trump] and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his democratic and other political rivals.”

    Would be pretty amazing then if Trump was left off the warrant.

  78. Fisky

    So at a bare minimum, the following people were conspiring to keep Obama in the dark about the second FISA warrant, and coordinated their activities without any approval from him – the national security advisor, the head of the CIA, the attorney-general and probably the secretary of state.

    Does that sound likely to you?

  79. Roger

    I wonder if the Obama administration had to actually provide anything substantial in terms of foreign intelligence to the FISC when applying for the second warrant…

    Obama’s team tried to get a warrant from a regular, Article III federal court on Trump, and was told no by someone along the way (maybe the FBI), as the evidence was that weak or non-existent; second, Obama’s team then tried to circumvent the federal judiciary’s independent role by trying to mislabel the issue one of “foreign agents,” and tried to obtain a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act “courts”, and were again turned down, when the court saw Trump named (an extremely rare act of FISA court refusal of the government, suggesting the evidence was truly non-existent against Trump); and so, third, Obama circumvented both the regular command of the FBI and the regularly appointed federal courts, by placing the entire case as a FISA case (and apparently under Sally Yates at DOJ) as a “foreign” case, and then omitted Trump’s name from a surveillance warrant submitted to the FISA court, which the FISA court unwittingly granted, which Obama then misused to spy on Trump and many connected to Trump. Are these allegations true? We don’t know yet, but if any part of them are then Obama and/or his officials could face serious trouble.

    RTWT

  80. notafan

    I saw that article about Paglia, Roger

    Disgraceful.

    Hopefully the artwork is removed (and him from his position)

    Was doing the rounds on Facebook along with the story about Episcopalian priestesses who had a abortion so she could finish divinity school.

  81. Fisky

    The CIA: we got away with 9/11 but are unable to pin down an unhinged orange billionaire with a Twitter account!

  82. Infidel Tiger

    Sean Davis‏Verified account @seanmdav 25m25 minutes ago

    While You Weren’t Looking, the Democrat–Media Election-Hacking Narrative Just Collapsed

    https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/838952239322521601

  83. Fisky

    Please ignore my 4D trolling and stay on topic.

  84. Nick

    They didn’t bug Sessions. They bugged the ambassador.

    They bugged a foreign ambassador? This is after Secretary Clinton rang over 30 wold leaders to apologise for the US bugging them!

    I wonder who the President was at the time ?

  85. NEW VIDEO: Zombiefied Anti-Trump Protester Goes NUTS!

    That is just…demonic.

  86. Zyconoclast

    This is the guy [Maocolm] who finds going to WA to be too far away.

    That’s different. Barney revoked his WA privileges.

  87. Roger

    I saw that article about Paglia, Roger

    Disgraceful. Hopefully the artwork is removed (and him from his position)

    As an aside, nota, I have long held the view that most post-Renaissance Western Christian art is tainted with eroticism, much of it no doubt sublimated, but recently all too often in your face. For that reason I prefer the naivety of traditional stained glass or the stylised representations of human figures transfigured by divinity in Eastern Orthodox iconography, a tradition with which with which I am less familiar but where a bit of tutoring goes a long way. Neither tradition can be easily subverted by the worldly spirit of the Renaissance and it is all but impossible to imagine a bishop like Paglia getting away with what he did in these mediums.

  88. egg_

    Please ignore my 4D trolling and stay on topic.

    Damn. it wasn’t a moment of lucidity?
    Ain’t Trump a goddam ‘troofer’?

  89. Baldrick

    The left are murderous, genocidal maniacs.

    The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people.

  90. Zyconoclast

    I hope President Trump is having a statue of Mark Levin commissioned and erected in front of the White House.

    In front of Obama’s new house would be a better location.

  91. notafan

    I tend to lose interest in art around the Renaissance, with some affection for late 19th non religious stuff.

    I must say the eroticism has gone over my head,.

    I see there is a book about it for sale at Amazon.

  92. Lysander

    Will Malcolm be talking Same Sex Marriage with the Indonesians?

    **crickets**

  93. stackja

    The Left telling lies? I am shocked!

  94. val majkus

    Sure, Obama spied. But it wasn’t spying spying.

    love it! More links at this link

    Good morning, kids. Shit status is real; why else, aside from underemployment, would I win the weekly comment ranking? So this is what a smooth transition of power looks like, eh? As we enter week 7 of the Trump era, the instrumentalities of government are in open revolt against a duly elected chief executive and his team. A non-moron friend who’s a die-hard Trump backer (and works in Hollywood, believe it or not) was worried PDT might have shot himself in the foot with this Twitter accusation about SCOAMF wiretapping his campaign. If he really does have proof, would it have been better to wait to use that info at a more appropriate time, or minimally added the word “Administration” after SCOAMF’s name? In any case, as I have mentioned in the comments, how does the President use the investigative agencies to root out totalitarian-style corruption and illegalities when the agencies themselves are at the heart of the investigation? Fasten your seatbelts

  95. cohenite

    srr

    #2318387, posted on March 7, 2017 at 1:18 pm

    Tucker Carlson GOES OFF on Politicians,
    Says They Hate Trump
    The Daily Sh*t Show

    Very entertaining and spot on.

  96. Fisky

    The purpose of the second warrant was not necessarily to find anything on Trump, but to fabricate an investigation out of nothing and leak the fact that there was an investigation to the media. Because if there really were actionable foreign intelligence, why isn’t Obama just admitting that, yes, we thought there was something to this, but it turns out they found nothing.

    It is obviously because they fabricated the claims of Trump-Russia collusion out of nothing in order to tip the campaign. In the meantime, they have probably broken the law.

  97. cohenite

    I asked this question about the anti-Trump protestor yesterday; it is a crucial point: what gender is it?

    https://www.facebook.com/ThePatriotFederation/videos/1883743175177536/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

  98. Infidel Tiger

    Australian cricket back to normal: shit.

  99. Sure, Obama spied. But it wasn’t spying spying.

    You mean it wasn’t core spying, as little Johnnie Howard would say.

  100. jupes

    Australian cricket back to normal: shit.

    No no.

    Just lulling them into a false sense of security.

  101. Dr Faustus

    It has taken quality, Australian, News.com.au investigative journalists Victoria Craw and Liz Burke to get to the real truth of the Trump Tweets:

    What you need to know about President Trump’s ‘wiretap’ claims

    The whole thing [the revelation that Sessions had met twice with the Russian ambassador] was a mess and the President would likely have hoped the media would focus on anything else.

    Cue the wiretap tweet.

    President Trump has not admitted that the claim was part of a bait ‘n’ switch style manoeuvre to deflect attention from the Sessions scandal — that’s just a theory, floated convincingly by the Washington Post.

    So, not quite there yet, but they’re closing in fast…

  102. Infidel Tiger

    No no.

    Just lulling them into a false sense of security.

    India will score 400 plus and bowl us out for less than a 100.

  103. val majkus

    it is a crucial point: what gender is it?

    looks female to me Cohenite – with those drawn on eyebrows

  104. Bruce in WA

    I like summer in Perf. The pretty lady wymminses don’t wear so many clothings …

  105. Diogenes

    I like summer in Perf. The pretty lady wymminses don’t wear so many clothings …

    Bruce,
    you dirty dirty man
    Then again when I worked at one of the Gold Coast’s most beloved attractions, the male staff used to mark the end of winter with – “Must be spring – the t*ts are out”

  106. jupes

    India will score 400 plus and bowl us out for less than a 100.

    Yeah nah.

    This test is in the bag for Australia.

    FMD Starc on a hat trick!

  107. m0nty,

    Once again, many thank for your patience. By way of explanation, my wife has been suffering a major relapse of her MS for the past few months and it recently reached a crisis point. We are now preparing for her third round of chemo.

    I will, in due course, continue our negotiation which I’m sure will be concluded very soon.

  108. Boambee John

    test pattern at 1341

    After NATO invades Kaliningrad they should rename it Konigsberg and give it back to the Germans.

  109. jupes

    India will score 400 plus and bowl us out for less than a 100.

    LOL

    You idiot.

  110. BTW, wife says I should pay the $20K just to show you up for what you are.
    I explained that it wouldn’t cost that much.

  111. Baldrick

    Best wishes Riccardo to you and Mrs RB

  112. Tom

    India will score 400 plus and bowl us out for less than a 100.

    The Injun lead will be about 200. Gettable. Maybe.

  113. lotocoti

    looks female to me Cohenite

    Female, perhaps, but not necessarily female female.

  114. pete m

    Tom, agree, but this pitch is #$%#$%, so I have strong doubts that we’d get those runs.

  115. Thoughts and prayers to you both, Riccardo.

  116. pete m

    India have just lost 4 for 8.

  117. pete m

    in 9 balls – this must be driving Indian fans nuts!!!

  118. jupes

    Best wishes Riccardo to you and Mrs RB

    Yes best of luck to you both.

  119. Infidel Tiger

    LOL

    You idiot

    Ssh. I am using my reverse indicator curse for good.

  120. Female, perhaps, but not necessarily female female.

    Females of all genders? The Prince of Lies indeed.

  121. Delta A

    All the best to you both Riccardo. Difficult times indeed.

  122. Nick

    Either way, it’s going to be required viewing , or perhaps the ABC has a turban clad scold I could watch instead?

  123. DrBeauGan

    BTW, wife says I should pay the $20K just to show you up for what you are.

    I wouldn’t pay 20¢. We know what poor m0nty is.

  124. Jannie

    JC
    #2318070, posted on March 7, 2017 at 2:31 am

    New age hero of the Right. The Stick Man.

    What a beautiful video, and beautiful music – not by some pussy hat girl band.

    The second rap cut is good but hard to tell what side the rapper is on.

    The stick man is a cool dude, but the guy in blue jumper is the real hero. He is taking on three or four of them, unarmed.

  125. Boambee John

    Riccardo

    Prayers with you, MS is a beast.

  126. LOL. Dem congressman on Tucker Carlson’s show now arguing that wiretapping the Trump campaign wasn’t spying, it was law enforcement. This is pretty disgusting stuff. They are all over the shop. The Left must be smashed.

    Sinistra delenda est.

  127. Thanks to all for your thoughts and prayers.

  128. cohenite

    Best wishes Riccardo.

  129. Tom

    President Trumball asserts “the vast majority” of Strayan moozleys are “utterly appalled” by political extremism and terrorism. I recall that, in public opinion polls, either significant minorities or majorities of moozlies elsewhere love sharia, enslaving non-believers in a caliphate and the concept of jihad to achieve those aims. I’d be astonished if that wasn’t the case in Australia — providing it wasn’t a fake poll by the Ponds Institute.

  130. mindfree

    Best wishes Riccardo for Mrs B and yourself

  131. max

    This pitch is tricky.

    I’m penciling in Warner for between 3 and 13.

  132. Senile Old Guy

    Best wishes Riccardo to you and Mrs RB.

    Sincerely, hoping for the best.

  133. H B Bear

    Lord Waffleworth can speak for Australian muzzies. He’s had most of them round for dinner at one point or another.

  134. pete m

    Best wishes Riccardo.

    India lose 5/20

    game on!

  135. Dr Faustus

    Dem congressman on Tucker Carlson’s show now arguing that wiretapping the Trump campaign wasn’t spying, it was law enforcement.

    The emerging prospect of exciting career opportunities as prison bitch will be energising post hoc rationalisation in any number of former administration officials and their enablers.

    There must surely be a Federal penitentiary with an 18-hole golf course attached.

  136. jupes

    The Indians might regret not taking these singles.

  137. Tailgunner

    Hey,MsDoolittle
    I’m in for the Cat Soiree.
    What shall I bring?
    And where am I going?

  138. Nick

    Some dark faces in the Indian dressing room at the moment

  139. Senile Old Guy

    In other news:

    Australia’s ever-expanding cities have been linked to weight gain and chronic illnesses, sparking calls for a more integrated approach to designing healthy neighbourhoods. Researchers from Australian Catholic University’s Institute for Health and Ageing examined how neighbourhoods could make healthier residents by focusing on everyday activities like heading to work and shopping.

    They found people in outer suburban areas gained weight faster than those in inner-city neighbourhoods, and suggested it could be linked to a greater dependency on cars. “Our daily behaviours, such as commuting to work and shopping, can contribute to obesity over time … and people living in outer suburbs tend to rely on cars and are much more sedentary for these daily tasks. “In contrast, people living in inner city areas appear to be more active, maybe because they have more transportation options and shops are closer.”

    Note all the wiggle words: ‘appear’, ‘suggested’.

    So, fatties in the burbs. The solution is, of course, dieting and exercise. No, silly me, the solution is another government program.

    Professor Sugiyama said governments, urban planners and health sectors needed to work together to create healthier neighbourhoods. “It’s about creating compact residential and commercial areas around transportation hubs to allow for more active lifestyles for residents,” he said.

    I’ve lived in the city so long, I did not realise that people in the burbs were actually prevented from exercising and being active! The good professor — for a professor he is — did not say how these poor, poor people were prevented from exercising; I assume it is some secret government mind control program.

    But, on the basis of a some correlations and assumptions, governments should redesign cities!

    Of course, we could look at what actually happens when you do that. As it happens, the satellite city to Darwin, Palmerston, is designed in just the way the good professor wants. But the gross tonnage on display at the Palmerston shopping centre ‘suggests’ that the good professor has not a clue.

  140. slackster

    Wiki leaks dumping Vault 7 online now

    Password to be released 9:00am EST US time

    Hopefully a good read

  141. Steve tickler

    I shudder to think.

    Western Australia could have another Daniel Andrews elected on Saturday.

    F.M.D.

  142. rickw

    President Trumball asserts “the vast majority” of Strayan moozleys are “utterly appalled” by political extremism and terrorism.

    Only a tosser like him would believe this, watch them on the streets, read their Facebook posts and you’ll see how much they think ISIS is the embodiment of Mo’s word.

  143. C.L.

    Breaking: Harry Reid now implicated in Obama spy scandal. Comey also in trouble.

    The day before Hillary Clinton herself tweeted about the illegal wiretap, he wrote this to Comey:

    “In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government – a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States, which Trump praises at every opportunity,” he said. “I wrote to you months ago calling for this information to be released to the public…and yet, you continue to resist calls to inform the public of this critical information.”

    Reid admits that a wiretapping operation had taken place. Comey has publicly denied the operation took place and pressured the Department of Justice to lie about it.

  144. Gab

    Prayers for you and Mrs Riccardo.

  145. H B Bear

    Western Australia could have another Daniel Andrews elected on Saturday.

    Sneakers will be controlled by the Shoppies and United Voice not the CFMEU. He will be worse than anyone thinks though.

  146. rickw

    Hey,MsDoolittle
    I’m in for the Cat Soiree.
    What shall I bring?
    And where am I going?

    Gunner, what colour Trump T are you wearing? Don’t want to double up!

  147. Gab

    President Trumball asserts “the vast majority” of Strayan moozleys are “utterly appalled” by political extremism and terrorism.

    Is that so? How many of the “vast majority” of this 2% of the population has Mr Trumball actually met to come to this conclusion?

  148. stackja

    In the 1950s my suburb was isolated with one narrow bridge to Sydney. Most people walked to shops and used buses to get to further places. Our diet was probably ‘unhealthy’. Only one university then!

  149. DrBeauGan

    I think some of you are hard on srr. The evidence is striking that we are in a religious war. On the one hand is a weakened Christianity, on the other a Marxist worldview with post-modernism as its apologetics. The former asks its adherents to treat everyone with kindness, and the latter is based on envy, power-hunger and spite.

    Srr sees this in apocalyptic terms of good versus evil. I wouldn’t choose those terms myself, but one appeals to the best of us, the other to the worst, so her perspective is not unreasonable.

    Not unnaturally for someone with that view, the task is to persuade others of its correctness. I don’t say she always does this with maximum effectiveness, sometimes she alienates prospective allies, but she also makes a strong case that this is the pre-eminent issue of our times. And she stands up for the right with an indomitable courage I find admirable.

    I recommend the Peterson videos she has posted. They show an honest and thoughtful man grappling with large issues.

  150. Infidel Tiger

    Western Australia could have another Daniel Andrews elected on Saturday.

    We deserve it.

    Pray for our kids.

  151. Delta A

    Senile Old Guy

    #2318533, posted on March 7, 2017 at 4:31 pm

    Good post, Old Guy.

    I had an email from Seniors SA inviting me, as a ‘life expert’*, to attend a 2 day seminar to explore how the government might entice oldies out into parks. My response was that this is another waste of taxpayers’ money and that nanny should leave us oldies to decide for ourselves when we want an airing in the park.

    * Life expert=old fart.

    BTW, the gross tonnage of the outer burb-dwellers is directly proportional to the proximity of Maccas and KFC.

  152. Tom

    Injuns all out 274. Straya need 187.

  153. Leo G

    President Trumball asserts “the vast majority” of Strayan moozleys are “utterly appalled” by political extremism and terrorism.

    What’s politically extreme mean to a “moozley”? Anything deserving the lopping of Strayan extremities?

  154. jupes

    Straya need 187.

    To tie.

  155. Infidel Tiger

    We need 188 to win.

  156. Lysander

    Western Australia could have another Daniel Andrews elected on Saturday.

    I think the word you are looking for is “will” – not “could.”

  157. Baldrick

    They’re just no pretending anymore. Check out the latest Soviet era inspired propaganda posters from Climate Victory!

  158. Tom

    Oops. Straya needs 187 to tie, 188 to win.

  159. Boambee John

    SOG at 1631

    Most of the old Canberra suburbs were designed around a small shopping centre.

    Many of those shopping centres went into terminal decline in the 1980s and 1990s. The first to go was usually the service station then pharmacies and newsagents.

  160. Delta A

    How many of the “vast majority” of this 2% of the population has Mr Trumball actually met to come to this conclusion?

    Well, he has quite a good proportion around to his place for dinner with him and Lucy.

    Still waiting for him to extend the same courtesy to Christian leaders for Christmas, Easter or anything.

  161. Just in case you were wondering how our new subs will powered, they have now started testing the prototype drive units in Adelaide.

    And here we all were, foolishly worrying about employment in post-industrial Adelaide.

  162. pete m

    India lost 6 for 36 with 3 or 4 loose shots.

    Otherwise it seems to be playing similar to yesterday.

    All will tell on what pressure the top order can cope with.

    Will they play like Renshaw, or fast and loose trying to hit boundaries?

    Warner will struggle to contain himself, knowing a quick 60 – 70 would swing the balance, but getting out for 5 trying to smash a 6 and he is a goose.

    Prediction:

    This team has some solid elements I’ll back to get the runs. Good luck fellas.

  163. Boambee John

    Dr BG at 1650

    Christianity stands for love, forgiveness and salvation forcall who accept Christ.

    Islam stands for hatred of infidels, condign punishment of transgressors and paradise only for those who enforce its rules on everyone.

    To choose a specific word, one of these is the “anti” of the other.

  164. DrBeauGan

    Infidel Tiger
    #2318546, posted on March 7, 2017 at 4:52 pm
    Western Australia could have another Daniel Andrews elected on Saturday.

    We deserve it.

    Pray for our kids.

    You deserve it, IT, you spend too much time thinking about important stuff like cricket.

  165. Delta A

    Memoryvault at 5.02 pm.

    That reads like an April 1st article. Handlebar Adelaide? How many more ways can Adelaideans come up with to make themselves look stupid?

  166. Arnost

    It would be very interesting to know which foreign intelligence agencies provided the “actionable intelligence” that was the trigger for this second FISA warrant.

    Hmmm – wouldn’t it be amusing if it turned out to be the watersportsgate allegations dossier…

  167. Nick

    Warner will struggle to contain himself, knowing a quick 60 – 70 would swing the balance, but getting out for 5 trying to smash a 6 and he is a goose.

    Yep. He doesn’t care. He’s already got the fastest century souvenir for sale on ch 9.

  168. cohenite

    Tom

    #2318522, posted on March 7, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    President Trumball asserts “the vast majority” of Strayan moozleys are “utterly appalled” by political extremism and terrorism. I recall that, in public opinion polls, either significant minorities or majorities of moozlies elsewhere love sharia, enslaving non-believers in a caliphate and the concept of jihad to achieve those aims. I’d be astonished if that wasn’t the case in Australia — providing it wasn’t a fake poll by the Ponds Institute.

    It is astounding, due to a combination of hubris and cowardice, that Australian pollies, except Hanson, continue to peddle this egregious bullshit that the majority of muslims are good citizens. They are not; they themselves say so as poll after poll of what they want shows. Riaz Hassan, emeritus professor of sociology at Flinders and a muslim, in his massive survey in 2008, discussed here along with other polls, showed this; and every poll since confirms this point.

    Muslims want sharia and Islamic values. Most will not be violent in seeking them but they don’t have to be; it has always been the case that a violent minority will shape and direct a larger non-violent group who in the instance of islam share the basic values of the violent minority.

    Until islam changes either confrontation or quarantine or both are the only solutions. Turnbull betrays his society as do the other politicians who utter these mealy-mouthed platitudes. I don’t think Hanson has the wit to really prosecute this point, Trump, le Pen, Wilders do, but until someone else comes along she will have to do.

  169. DrBeauGan

    Boambee John
    #2318563, posted on March 7, 2017 at 5:05 pm
    Dr BG at 1650

    Christianity stands for love, forgiveness and salvation forcall who accept Christ.

    Islam stands for hatred of infidels, condign punishment of transgressors and paradise only for those who enforce its rules on everyone.

    To choose a specific word, one of these is the “anti” of the other.

    I’m much less worried by the Muslims than by the lefties, BJ. Without the lefties we’d have disposed of any Muslim threat long ago.

  170. Snoopy

    Balders, Seems like Climate Victory is bit a light on in the #winning department.

    LOL!

  171. Grigory M

    Beer O’clock – icy cold Asahi Super Dry, brewed and canned in Japan in a 500ml bullet, is being enjoyed in a chilled glass from the freezer. Kampai!

  172. Geriatric Mayfly

    Pub Tests are the go! Let’s attempt to see if The Waffler’s luuuuurve for Muslims is shared across the bars of the nation.

  173. Delta A

    Well glory be!

    Just had a contact from our state member (of the pathetic SA loser Libs) who wants to meet with me ‘for a cuppa and a chat’ in regard to a vicious, Chardonnay and despair driven email I fired off a week or so ago.

    It was sent to the Opposition Leader, but was apparently passed down to the local member, with instructions to contact me. Would I be willing to meet with him to discuss my concerns?

    Oh, yes.

    I’ll even provide the tea and bikkies. He’ll have to bring his own bandaids.

  174. jupes

    It is astounding, due to a combination of hubris and cowardice, that Australian pollies, except Hanson, continue to peddle this egregious bullshit that the majority of muslims are good citizens.

    What about the old canard (repeated todat by Turnbull) that “Muslims are our best allies against terrorism.”

    Give me strength. So if Muslims are our “best allies against terrorism” then logically the more we have the better off we will be. Yet all those “best allies against terrorism” recently arrived in Europe don’t seem to have resulted in less terrorism.

    I for one have had a gutfull of politicians treating us like idiots.

  175. Boambee John

    Dr BG

    Agree. struth made a similar point a couple of days ago.

    That said, we need to keep the Muslim issue under control. The obvious first step is to minimise the size of the problem by keeping the numbers under control.

    Understanding the enemy is the first step.

  176. notafan

    DrBG

    All very well but I am a ‘churchian’ (and the Catholic Church is in srr’s view has always been evil). I have made my position on islam clear since I first arrived here approx three years ago and iirc you and others attacked me for my views on islam back then.

    Rumplestiltskin is one of those who, if you do not agree with every single word, deems you to be one of the evil ones.

    A self appointed infallible redeemer who abuses, skites and boasts about their alleged foresight and thinks they are prophetic , while telling blatant lies when it suits.

    What courage is there in an anonymous name on a ‘centre right’ blog lambasting those who who are not pro islam and despise global progressives?

    Thank you but no. I will look to others who are less unhinged.

    Anne Barnhandt, for one, is far more forthright and brave in her public denunciation of islam and the left.

    She also makes sense, all of the time.

  177. jupes

    Understanding the enemy is the first step.

    No. In the case of our politicians recognising the enemy is the first step.

    We are a long way from even that.

  178. Boambee John

    Dr BG

    ” … under control.while we resolve the lefty problem.”

  179. Geriatric Mayfly

    That said, we need to keep the Muslim issue under control.
    Given their fecundity we may need to introduce a dedicated One Child Policy to keep a lid on the numbers.

  180. Lysander

    Pub Tests are the go! Let’s attempt to see if The Waffler’s luuuuurve for Muslims is shared across the bars of the nation.

    There aren’t many bars in Indonesia with drinking Muslims are there?

  181. dweezy2176

    All the best to you & the missus Riccardo, been down the Chemo Path .. not a cheerful road to have to travel …

  182. Senile Old Guy

    Just in case you were wondering how our new subs will powered, they have now started testing the prototype drive units in Adelaide. And here we all were, foolishly worrying about employment in post-industrial Adelaide.

    Phew! Disaster averted! Thanks for that, MV, I can breathe easy now.

  183. egg_

    Either way, it’s going to be required viewing , or perhaps the ABC has a turban clad scold I could watch instead?

    Van Badass and the obligatory muzzo* on Teh Dumb.
    *Ali Kadri says Govt has an anti-muzzo conspiracy.

  184. Nick

    Van Badass and the obligatory muzzo* on Teh Dumb.

    Thanks be unto God for the cricket.

  185. Senile Old Guy

    Well, my copy of The Empire Strikes South just arrived. So that’s what I’ll be reading for the next while.

  186. Tailgunner

    Haha! Mine’s white, Rick 🙂

  187. Tailgunner

    Warner to make fastest 50 in Test cricket. Dedicates his achievement to his biggest fan,Infidel Tiger!

  188. Nick

    it will be good if Kohli loses it and India start to argue with each other

  189. Roger

    Prediction:

    This team has some solid elements I’ll back to get the runs. Good luck fellas.

    +1

  190. Infidel Tiger

    Winning in India is the ultimate.

    Godspeed, fellas.

  191. Tintarella Di Luna

    I am going to the pub tonight to listen to a coue of jolly fellows talk about whether we should worry about the weather. Should be a jolly good night

  192. Tintarella Di Luna

    Couple iPhonitis is bad for spelling

  193. Nick

    The Indians will be appealing for bad light soon

  194. Roger

    Winning in India is the ultimate.

    Especially so when they are captained by Virat Kohli.

  195. Lysander

    All this talk of pubs, I’m going to a pub to have a beer with mate who is producer on major news network. I intend to #win a lot.

  196. jupes

    Oh dear. The young fella’s out.

  197. jupes

    Stand by for a captain’s knock from Australia’s second best batsman of all time.

  198. Noodles Romanoff

    8 byes in a total of 22. Kohli really having a bad time.

  199. Delta A

    Tintarella Di Luna

    #2318599, posted on March 7, 2017 at 5:48 pm

    Have fun with them, Tinta. No mercy.

  200. Infidel Tiger

    Smith needs to keep Warner away from Ashwin.

  201. test pattern

    ‘Sneakers will be controlled by the Shoppies and United Voice’

    By Kelly. United Voice is the old Missos. They keep Kelly out of the media so voters can’t see what they’ll be getting. He wasn’t even allowed to make a public comment about the Fair Work decision.

    I was just having a peek at the list of members – 59. 21 don’t have Bachelor level qualifications. Either diplomas or nothing at all. Harvey and Grylls have nothing.

    Going to the Perth Mod meeting with Shadow Edu Minister in a few hours. McGowan was Ed Minister under Geoff, and set Mod on it’s path as a 100% selective school to cater for the Gifted and Talented. That he can turn around and destroy what he helped create just as it prepares to graduate it’s first fully selective year 12 class doesn’t bode well for Metronet. I give Metronet 10 years before McGowan turns it into a Bollywood theme ride for the feral Indian Palm Squirrels [Funambulus Palmarum] at South Perth Zoo.

  202. Delta A


    Australia’s second best batsman of all time.

    And, as a lapsed cricket tragic, who would that be?

  203. test pattern

    ‘Christianity stands for love, forgiveness and salvation forcall who accept Christ.’

    Christianity is an example of how long fake news can last, even after proven to be fake.

  204. Pedro the Ignorant

    The Bangalore crowds are leaping, bounding and yodelling in the stands like demented loons at every ball.

    Anyone who invents an app that cuts out the crowd noise and leaves the commentary will make a motza.

    Excitable lot.

  205. jupes

    And, as a lapsed cricket tragic, who would that be?

    Steve Smith.

  206. JC

    Monst

    So after all the back and forth chatting today about the wire tapping… we’re done, right. We’re all in agreement that Trump was illegally spied on and it’s now just a matter of time before the inductments go out making this as big as Watergate.

    Finally, you agree, right?

  207. Delta A

    I’ll take your word for it, Jupes.

  208. Infidel Tiger

    If Monty wants a real scandal he should focus on the Republicans and Trump not fully repealing Obamacare but only amending it. Disgraceful

  209. Finally, you agree, right?

    Forget it, JC. Monty has his goalposts mounted on one of these.

  210. Leigh Lowe

    Smith needs to keep Warner away from Ashwin.

    And he needs to find two real batsmen who can pass for the Marsh brothers behind a helmet grille in a fading light.

  211. jupes

    And he needs to find two real batsmen who can pass for the Marsh brothers behind a helmet grille in a fading light.

    Ease up.

    Sean Marsh top scored in the first innings.

  212. Infidel Tiger

    Bad decision. Bad shot.

  213. Pedro the Ignorant

    Warner bites the dust LBW sweeping on the first ball around the wicket.

    What happened to watching the ball?

  214. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger
    #2318611, posted on March 7, 2017 at 6:02 pm
    Smith needs to keep Warner away from Ashwin.

    The Cat.
    The font of all economic, political and sporting wisdom …
    Warner … lbw bowled Ashwin 17.

  215. Slayer of Memes

    How many of the “vast majority” of this 2% of the population has Mr Trumball actually met to come to this conclusion?

    Well there was Wally A-lie and his missus at that Iftar dinner last year. The one also attended by Sheik Shady Al-Sulemin, who is on open record calling for the execution of gays, and for women to be ‘hung by their breasts in hell’..

    ..and Keysar Trad who openly stated during a television interview that Islam allows a man to beat a woman..

    …and….

  216. Noodles Romanoff

    Lol at Cricinfo commentator.
    “10.3 Yadav to Smith, FOUR, dropped by Kohli at slip. He drops quite a few there.”

  217. Leigh Lowe

    Warner bites the dust LBW sweeping on the first ball around the wicket.

    Fuckin what?
    Warner sweeping?
    Jesus!
    Tiger Woods has a better sweep shot than Warner.

  218. Grigory M

    Tiger Woods has a better sweep shot than Warner.

    Tiger’ ex-wife was good with a 5 iron.

  219. Muddy

    Well, my copy of The Empire Strikes South just arrived. So that’s what I’ll be reading for the next while.

    You’re a step ahead of me, Senile Old Guy. My copy of “Honour Denied” arrived a few days ago, and I’m looking forward to a few spare moments to sit back with it. From simply flicking through, the production values and presentation is high quality.

  220. Roger

    Muslim spokesperson on The Drum:

    Punchbowl HS debacle the fault of NSW & Federal governments.

    You cannot please/appease these people.

  221. Leigh Lowe

    Just saw Warner on Nein news.
    That wasn’t a sweep.
    It was a genuflecting pull shot … or something.

  222. Leigh Lowe

    Tiger’ ex-wife was good with a 5 iron.

    It was a 9 iron.
    Google it.

  223. jupes

    They should have reviewed that.

  224. Nick

    It’s not as if there was any bat in that, Jupes. Lol.

  225. Infidel Tiger

    Terrible umpiring decision again.

  226. calli

    Phew! Just got in the door. Listened, on the long road home, to sound bites of Waffleworth praising Indonesia for being a tolerant, wonderful Muslim nation. No doubt because he’s over there and values his skin.

    He’s probably forgotten that little incident in Bali a few years ago.

  227. Slayer of Memes

    Tiger’ ex-wife was good with a 5 iron.

    It was a 9 iron.
    Google it.

    Fact check: LL is correct

  228. Tom

    Warner to make fastest 50 in Test cricket. Dedicates his achievement to his biggest fan,Infidel Tiger!

    Clown thinks he’s Crocodile Dundee. Another waste of a chance to be a patient hero because he wanted compare dick sizes with Virat Kohli.

    I saw a more authentic Croc Dundee copy in a beat-up Landcruiser ute down the street just now.

    Hand-scrawled sign on the tailgate: “I like my women like my Toyotas: 20 years old and full of problems”.

    Sure enough, a magnificently friggable 20-year-old was climbing into the cab with him as I drove off.

  229. Grigory M

    Tiger’ ex-wife was good with a 5 iron.

    It was a 9 iron.

    Assuming that you mean the one she hit him and the SUV with – by most reports, it seems so.

  230. stackja

    Antichrist Mo? Fakery?

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