The Australian Human Rights Commission has blood on its hands

Today we were all shocked by the news of Bill Leak’s untimely death at age 61.

Roger Franklin at Quadrant expresses many of our views:

Are you happy now, Gillian Triggs? And you, Tim Soutphommasane, race pimp and sinecured Labor hack, what are you saying in private about the man you abused with the full weight of the misplaced trust and budget Australians invest in your filthy Human Rights Commission? Bill Leak, the Australian cartoonist and a man worth a hundred of each of you, is dead, carried off by a heart attack at the age of 61.

How do you feel about that, you pair of trough-snouters and gold-plated apparatchiks. Are you suppressing grins? You should be because this is more than you could have expected.

You wanted to silence him, to grind the slashing blade of his humour to a dull edge with your sanctions and harassment and point-blank refusal to recognise truth, even when it bit you on the arse. And Bill bit hard and often, but not so much as you deserved. No wonder you put so much effort into making his final months a misery. Now death has gone you one better.

Jim Allen:

When the enervated joint committee report on 18C came out we both were amazed at how Liberals on that committee could agree with Labor and Greens’ anti-free speech position, and we both marvelled at the way a once great party no longer seemed to believe in anything – just get re-elected, forget standing for principles and defending vital values.

Then, only a little over a week ago, he called and asked me to come to the launch of his book in Sydney.  To my great regret I had to say ‘no’, as I couldn’t get away from Brisbane for the night.  He told there was going to be a surprise visit from Barry Humphries.  He was delighted about that.

Yesterday, having watched the clips of speeches and read the news coverage,  I texted to congratulate Bill on the great success of his book launch.  In his typically generous way he promptly texted me back to say he was sending me a signed copy of his book.  This morning the bitter news about his sudden death started pouring into my cell phone.

And let’s be clear.  Bill Leak died of a massive heart attack after being dragged through a kangaroo pseudo-court by a bunch of jumped up, overpaid taxpayer-funded officials — paid by you and me, offered a nice cup of tea by Malcolm Turnbull.  One of them had set out pretty clearly to help make life as easy as possible for those who were ‘offended’ by one of Bill’s cartoons and who might want to launch a complaint. On a number of occasions Bill told me how stressful he had found the whole saga, but that he’d never give in to these cretins.

Keith Windschuttle:

Bill Leak was the greatest cartoonist of his era and deserves comparison with David Low, the greatest cartoonist ofhis era, from the First World War to the 1950s. Both initially made their names on The Bulletin magazine in Sydney as left-of-centre satirists but eventually went on to become the most powerful foes of left-wing authoritarianism in all its forms.

It is important to understand that Bill Leak wasn’t murdered by extremists in a hail of bullets – he was hounded to his death by a properly established government agency in pursuance of objectives that are abhorrent to western civilised standards.

Update:

To Bill Leak

Rest now soldier of freedom,
Put down your pen and close your eyes.
Rest now soldier of freedom,
You lie now in loving arms.
No more the pain of persecution,
No more the barrage of lies,
No more the threats and intimidation,
No more the darkening skies.
Rest now soldier of freedom,
Rest now in God’s loving hand.
Australians will take up your banner,
Australians will proudly wear your brand.
Requiesce in pace.

A Lurker

(Inspiration from words by Struth and Lizzy)

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200 Responses to The Australian Human Rights Commission has blood on its hands

  1. Noodles Romanoff

    One of the most disgusting breaches of human rights I’ve witnessed in my own country in my lifetime. Unfortunately the other breach was from the same government sponsored boondoggle department and both occurred under a, so called, conservative government. We need to drain this swamp and drain it now.

  2. richard ryan

    blood on the wattle

  3. Nick

    It is important to understand that Bill Leak wasn’t murdered by extremists in a hail of bullets – he was hounded to his death by a properly established government agency in pursuance of objectives that are abhorrent to western civilised standards.

    Well said Sinc.

  4. john constantine

    Where was Bill Leak’s safe space?.

  5. Tezza

    Roger Franklin is spot on. I only wish he had written more forcefully. I hope The Australian reprints his piece and dares the HRC to do its worst.

    We should make the dismissal of Triggs (not her long overdue retirement), the dismissal of Soutphommasane and the rescinding of s18c the memorial to Bill Leal’s courage and talent.

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    One of the most disgusting breaches of human rights I’ve witnessed in my own country in my lifetime.

    I’m finding it ironic that Tim Soutpommasane’s parents fled the Pathet Lao dictatorship, as refugees, in 1975, and yet their son seems to have learned “human rights” at the same school.

  7. Gab

    It is important to understand that Bill Leak wasn’t murdered by extremists in a hail of bullets – he was hounded to his death by a properly established government agency in pursuance of objectives that are abhorrent to western civilised standards.

    Hear, hear. Well said, Sinclair.

  8. Real Deal

    Well said Sinc, Roger, James and Keith. May we all maintain the rage.

  9. Razor

    For democracy:
    Bill Leak

    A beacon of courage among the weakest of persons

    who now form what is called the Liberal Party.

    18c and the HRC would not be here now except for those whp have no honour and no loyalty to any principle other than self first.

  10. C.L.

    I blame the Liberal Party more than two race-hustling scum mentioned.

  11. Tracey

    You nailed it Sinclair. I can’t get this out of my head and I’m usually pretty blasé about the deaths of famous people. Bill Leak was different, truly one of us. The anger of his colleagues, friends and admirers will hopefully lead to the dismantling of at least some of this PC bullshit that’s suffocating us.

  12. Gab

    Roger, thank you for your words.

  13. H B Bear

    Trigg’s contempt for Parliament is compounded by her repeated lies and false testimony every time she appears before Senate Estimates. All without any form of sanction.

  14. C.L.

    Sickeningly, Abbott, Brandis and Turnbull have all wheeled out lamentations for Leak today.
    But they all abandoned him during his recent, darkest hour.

  15. Gab

    I blame the Liberal Party more than two race-hustling scum mentioned.

    I blame them all. Illiberal scum.

  16. H B Bear

    Roger, thank you for your words.

    +1 I too hope The Australian will reprint them.

  17. Faye Busch

    Three of my comments for Bill Leak were immediately taken off at The Australian this afternoon. But I kept trying. They were:-
    First: This sums up our state of affairs. A brilliant cartoonist bullied to death.
    Second: This sums up our state of affairs. A brilliant cartoonist hounded to death.
    Third: This sums up our state of affairs. A brilliant cartoonist punished for his work.
    Fourth one was allowed. This sums up our state of affairs.
    Get Tony Abbott back. He said he would sack the Human Rights Commission.

  18. Infidel Tiger

    I’m so angry and so sad.

    It’s a sick joke that John Howard and Tony Abbott are pretending to front some boondoggle about western civilisation and meanwhile Bill Leak has been hounded to death.

    We don’t need some pretentious foundation to preserve western values you fraudulent turds, all we need is the freedom to speak our minds. Both of these complete arseholes failed us and should rightfully have died of shame, not Bill Leak.

  19. Infidel Tiger

    Three of my comments for Bill Leak were immediately taken off at The Australian this afternoon. But I kept trying. They were:-
    First: This sums up our state of affairs. A brilliant cartoonist bullied to death.
    Second: This sums up our state of affairs. A brilliant cartoonist hounded to death.
    Third: This sums up our state of affairs. A brilliant cartoonist punished for his work.
    Fourth one was allowed. This sums up our state of affairs.
    Get Tony Abbott back. He said he would sack the Human Rights Commission.

    The Australian is the problem and so is Tony Abbott. Both should fuck right off.

  20. Eddystone

    We don’t need some pretentious foundation to preserve western values you fraudulent turds, all we need is the freedom to speak our minds. Both of these complete arseholes failed us and should rightfully have died of shame, not Bill Leak.

    Spot on.

  21. Gab

    I find it so hard to believe he is gone from us.

  22. Let’s not be gentle about this. There is a reasonably good chance Leak, a brave man of conviction, would still be alive today, if Abbott, a weak political opportunist, had fulfilled his election conviction to repeal 18C. Obviously, according to the Quisling Abbott, Leak was not part of his “Team Australia”.

    If we want to reverse the trend of the political class forever kicking sand in our face, we need a few scalps. I’m suggesting Abbott as first cab off the rank. After all, he volunteered for the privilege. I’m suggesting we start a formal petition demanding his resignation – that he resign from Parliament and withdraw from politics completely and never insult our intelligence with his presence ever again.

    I’m prepared to do the work and foot the bills if there is any voting support out there.

  23. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m prepared to do the work and foot the bills if there is any voting support out there.

    Put me down for a contribution, Memory Vault.

  24. Neil

    We don’t need some pretentious foundation to preserve western values you fraudulent turds, all we need is the freedom to speak our minds. Both of these complete arseholes failed us and should rightfully have died of shame, not Bill Leak.

    Why don’t you resign from your job, enter Parliament and show us how it is done.

  25. Myrddin Seren

    I’m suggesting we start a formal petition demanding his resignation – that he resign from Parliament and withdraw from politics completely and never insult our intelligence with his presence ever again.

    Change.org ?

    I know it is a hot bed of PC, but you would probably have people there falling over themselves to sign that petition ? And save the MV sustenance fund a pile of dosh.

  26. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Why don’t you resign from your job, enter Parliament and show us how it is done.

    Infidel Tiger, in Parliament, would be an experience from which Parliament would never recover…

  27. Faye Busch

    I wish Tony Abbott had repealed 18C also. I would love to know his inner thinking of why he didn’t. Was he appeasing the Muslim population? Or he didn’t trust the non-Muslim population to not offend the Muslim population? Was he trying to keep the peace?

  28. Baldrick

    Abbott, Brandis and Turnbull should say nothing about Bill Leak and instead apologise to conservative Australian’s for failing to repeal 18c.
    It was only because of their lack of fortitude to do anything that led to the AHRC taking the action they did.

  29. Infidel Tiger

    Why don’t you resign from your job, enter Parliament and show us how it is done.

    Because I’m not electable. Believe me, if I was, you would see one principled hardcore advocate for freedom and righteousness.

  30. Pedro the Ignorant

    Powerful and very righteously angry words from Roger Franklin in his Quadrant Online article.

    Very well put, and encapsulates a lot of the bitter feeling over the activities of that vile mendacious star chamber, the HRC.

    The spineless Liberal jellyfish who refuse to abolish this travesty have a lot to answer for.

  31. I know it is a hot bed of PC, but you would probably have people there falling over themselves to sign that petition ? And save the MV sustenance fund a pile of dosh.

    Yes, Myrddin, I would use Change.org for those very reasons.
    I’m not looking for donations, just a commitment to support by voting.

  32. Infidel Tiger

    Negotiating and politicking on tax policy and healthcare? That’s cool.

    Negotiating on freedom of speech? I will stomp your head into a pulp and burn your family.

  33. JC

    I wish Tony Abbott had repealed 18C also.

    He couldn’t repeal it as he didn’t have control of the senate and the cross bench informed him they would not support a repeal. At the narrowest point he was unable to. However what he failed to do was to present the bill to parliament and if necessary even call a DD seeing he had informed the voters this was one of his core policies.

  34. Gab

    Let’s face it, the Liberal and National Party are useless and certainly do not uphold democratic values. They do not have the backbone for such an important task. In this country, we do not have a centre-right conservative party. What we do have are various forms of socialist parties.

    Why Gillian Triggs still as a job, especially after lying to parliamentary committees on numerous occassions, is incredulous but symptomatic of the feckless government we have today.

    They will never get rid of 18c. let alone the AHRC. They are too scared to do so because it would be the right thing to do.

  35. Infidel Tiger

    A coward JC. He either was complicit or abstained when George Brandis abolished free speech in Australia. A man of principle and honour would die in a ditch alone and friendles to advocate free speech.

    He would today be a hero, instead he should die of a great shame.

  36. He couldn’t repeal it as he didn’t have control of the senate and the cross bench informed him they would not support a repeal.

    Link?

  37. Gab

    Negotiating on freedom of speech?

    Nah, there ain’t no jobs in that.

  38. Baldrick

    Why don’t you resign from your job, enter Parliament and show us how it is done.

    It’s too late. Bill’s dead.

  39. Gab

    He couldn’t repeal it as he didn’t have control of the senate and the cross bench informed him they would not support a repeal. At the narrowest point he was unable to. However what he failed to do was to present the bill to parliament and if necessary even call a DD seeing he had informed the voters this was one of his core policies.

    Accurate and spot on.

  40. Neil

    Because I’m not electable. Believe me, if I was, you would see one principled hardcore advocate for freedom and righteousness

    I am sure lots of people who enter Parliament say things like that. Then human nature takes over.

  41. Noodles Romanoff

    I’ll support you MV, but no “first cab off the rank” stuff. There is a parliament full of Abbotts that deserve equal billing. The whole gutless mob of bustards that haven’t publicly called for the scrapping of 18c deserve to be hit with public indignation. They all need to be scared from under their rocks.

  42. Infidel Tiger

    I am sure lots of people who enter Parliament say things like that. Then human nature takes over.

    I would have no qualms in shooting them and their children.

    One term limits would solve that.

  43. There is a parliament full of Abbotts that deserve equal billing.

    True enough, Noodles. But they are strong and have all the artillery, and we are weak and have nothing but rocks of indignation to hurl. We need to concentrate on one target at a time, and right now, under current circumstances, Abbott is the most vulnerable.

  44. Noodles Romanoff

    Abbott is the most vulnerable

    It would seem to me that if anything is to be achieved then the target should be someone who actually has the power to make the change and that is not a backbencher.

  45. Robber Baron

    Bill Leak’s contribution to Australia as a cartoonist and artist is surpassed only by his courage for the just cause of free speech. Thomas Jefferson said it best. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Leak is a true Australian patriot.

  46. Fisky

    Why Gillian Triggs still as a job, especially after lying to parliamentary committees on numerous occassions, is incredulous but symptomatic of the feckless government we have today.

    I don’t understand how there isn’t a law against repeatedly misleading parliamentary committees and/or why they aren’t enforced. It’s preposterous.

  47. Jannie

    You can see the same haunted fear in pictures of Bill Leak that were in Bolt’s eyes when he was being hounded by the Government. Bill Leak was under a death fatwa from Islamists, and in fear of his life, and instead of helping him the government tried to prosecute him for drawing a cartoon. This is not how Australia is supposed to be, its all of our shame, but its how the bloody Left want it to be, and are apparently enjoying it. Triggs and Soutpomsinane are persecutors, and tout for business like soliciting pimps, to justify their existence. Its a disgrace, they should be sacked.

  48. Jannie

    Faye Busch

    #2322077, posted on March 10, 2017 at 11:34 pm

    Three of my comments for Bill Leak were immediately taken off at The Australian this afternoon. But I kept trying

    The Australian seems to have a diverse team of censors who take their job seriously and ensure they control what is printed, but if you keep trying they will allow you to say something. Best way to deal with that is phone the nice girl on the number they give you, and cancel your subscription. She is still in training but its one job she’s very good at.

  49. GD

    Faye Busch
    #2322077, posted on March 10, 2017 at 11:34 pm

    Fourth one was allowed. This sums up our state of affairs.

    Faye, I read your comment on the Australian website and wondered about it. Thanks for clearing that up. Your first three attempts were gold. Welcome to the club.

  50. Zatara

    When the bill to finally quash 18C is written and presented it should be named after Leak.

    Likewise the one to eliminate the AHRC should be named after the QUT lads.

    Just to keep the human costs of not passing them fresh in the minds of the decision makers and their constituents.

  51. B Shaw

    ” . . . . . the target should be someone who actually has the power to make the change . . . . .”

  52. struth

    Bill Leak died on his feet and fighting.
    God bless this soldier for freedom.
    I fail to see how anyone can justify Abbott’s abysmal back down on free speech.
    If he couldn’t get it through the senate he fights those opposed, outing them and letting the rest of the nation know he will keep fighting until the bill goes through.
    He is a pissant.
    As are all in the liberal party that condone and support the HRC.

  53. Cui bono

    Reassuring to see so many remember the AbbottCredlin government’s duplicity on 18c.

  54. Still so sad and angry. Watched Bolt’s tribute in tears, lump in my throat, husband at my side. I am fighting. I will remain fighting for freedom. But what can average people do? Leak had his legals paid. I simply don’t have that back up.

    I am terminally ill with cancer. Perhaps I will meet Leak soon. But I promise cats this: I will keep writing and poking, prodding and cajoling in my own little way.

    Come and get me Triggs. You are the official bully of Australia.

  55. Sparkx

    Tezza
    #2322046, posted on March 10, 2017 at 11:10 pm
    Roger Franklin is spot on. I only wish he had written more forcefully. I hope The Australian reprints his piece and dares the HRC to do its worst.

    We should make the dismissal of Triggs (not her long overdue retirement), the dismissal of Soutphommasane and the rescinding of s18c the memorial to Bill Leal’s courage and talent.

    Better still Tezza, shut down the whole bloody Human Rights Commission this year in honour of Bill.
    My mornings will not be quite the same without a dose of Bill Leak.

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  57. Tel

    http://www.world-heart-federation.org/cardiovascular-health/cardiovascular-disease-risk-factors/stress/

    How stress causes cardiovascular disease
    Living a stressful life can cause people to adopt poor habits like smoking and eating badly, which in turn are risk factors for cardiovascular disease.

    But being stressed itself can alter the way the body behaves and this can bring about changes to the blood and nervous system, which can have negative effects on your heart health.

    Studies show that acute stress triggers reduced blood flow to the heart, promotes your heart to beat irregularly and increases the likelihood of your blood clotting. All of these can trigger the development of cardiovascular disease.

    If you already have atherosclerosis and become acutely stressed you may experience chest pains caused by the arteries to your heart contracting and reducing the blood flow.

    When experienced over an extended period of time, all these effects can cause damage to the lining of the blood vessels. This makes the blood vessels more susceptible to atherosclerosis.

    So there you go…

  58. Infidel Tiger #2322108, posted on March 11, 2017 at 12:04 am

    A coward JC. He either was complicit or abstained when George Brandis abolished free speech in Australia. A man of principle and honour would die in a ditch alone and friendles to advocate free speech.

    He would today be a hero, instead he should die of a great shame.

    Worth repeating

  59. Tel

    That said, shellfish poison and a tiny blow dart does the job a lot quicker… for the impatient who can’t wait for constant harassment to finish off the chosen victim.

  60. stackja

    Big Brother grinded down Bill Leak.

  61. Roger Franklin at Quadrant expresses many of our views:

    Are you happy now, Gillian Triggs?

    A sociopath who abandons her own child for lifestyle reasons would not be happy. Satisfied perhaps.

    h/t A Very British Coup

  62. A Lurker

    To Bill Leak

    Rest now soldier of freedom,
    Put down your pen and close your eyes.
    Rest now soldier of freedom,
    You lie now in loving arms.
    No more the pain of persecution,
    No more the barrage of lies,
    No more the threats and intimidation,
    No more the darkening skies.
    Rest now soldier of freedom,
    Rest now in God’s loving hand.
    Australians will take up your banner,
    Australians will proudly wear your brand.
    Requiesce in pace.

    (Inspiration from words by Struth and Lizzy)

  63. stackja

    Cartoonist a champion for freedom of speech
    Sharri Markson
    Saturday, 11 March 2017 4:15AM
    Legendary cartoonist Bill Leak was not just a brilliant painter, a fearless satirist and a truly great bloke. He was also at the heart of the fight to overturn Australia’s broken freedom of speech laws.
    Leak, who died from a heart attack yesterday aged 61, was determined to overhaul the Racial Discrimination Act so that commentators such as him would not be hauled before the courts simply for offending someone with their art.

  64. Senile Old Guy

    …he was hounded to his death by a properly established government agency in pursuance of objectives that are abhorrent to western civilised standards.

    Absolutely. And Australia pays these scum large salaries.

    I blame the Liberal Party more than two race-hustling scum mentioned.

    No, I blame the scum first: it is their words and actions. I blame the Liberal Party second because they have done nothing.

    Trigg’s contempt for Parliament is compounded by her repeated lies and false testimony every time she appears before Senate Estimates. All without any form of sanction.

    Trigg’s is scum but she is paid by a Commission and these, in the Australian system, are not easy to undo.

    Sickeningly, Abbott, Brandis and Turnbull have all wheeled out lamentations for Leak today. But they all abandoned him during his recent, darkest hour.

    We all know Turncoat is scum, an opportunistic *rsehole. Brandis is at least as bad, having given up on 18C. Abbott is someone who I think means well but who gets it wrong time after time.

    Let’s not be gentle about this. There is a reasonably good chance Leak, a brave man of conviction, would still be alive today, if Abbott, a weak political opportunist, had fulfilled his election conviction to repeal 18C. Obviously, according to the Quisling Abbott, Leak was not part of his “Team Australia”.

    If we want to reverse the trend of the political class forever kicking sand in our face, we need a few scalps. I’m suggesting Abbott as first cab off the rank. After all, he volunteered for the privilege. I’m suggesting we start a formal petition demanding his resignation – that he resign from Parliament and withdraw from politics completely and never insult our intelligence with his presence ever again.

    If your primary target is Abbott, then your aim is wrong. The primary target is the entire Liberal Party especially Turncoat. Who was Communications Minister when this was going on? I suggest it might be one Malcolm Turnbull. Who weakened the government through leaks and destabilisation? Malcolm Turnbull. Abbott won the election but then had to fight against a backstabbing cabal of cabinet ministers, all trying to undo anything he tried to do. Was he weak? Yes. Was he an opportunist? No.

    Oh, and who is PM now? Malcolm Turnbull.

    I’m prepared to do the work and foot the bills if there is any voting support out there.

    My local Liberal member was — was — an Abbott supporter. They went at the last election, replaced by the ALP candidate because the liberals dumped Abbott.

    I will not support a witch hunt against Abbott, a (I think) good man betrayed by his ‘liberal’ party colleagues. But Brandis, and the scheming illiberal opportunist Turnbull, different story: they are scum.

  65. Riccardo refers at 7:12 am to “A sociopath who abandons her own child for lifestyle reasons etc”

    But look at the HREOC Act!

    It states ” 13 Powers of Commission

    (1) The Commission has power to do all things that are necessary or convenient to be done for or in connection with the performance of its functions.

    and

    14 (1) For the purpose of the performance of its functions, the Commission may make an examination or hold an inquiry in such manner as it thinks fit and, in informing itself in the course of an examination or inquiry, is not bound by the rules of evidence. “

    Every MP and senator who let that pass in 1986 and since needs flogging by agents of the religion of peace.

  66. Diogenes

    My local Liberal member was — was — an Abbott supporter. They went at the last election, replaced by the ALP candidate because the liberals dumped Abbott.

    I will not support a witch hunt against Abbott, a (I think) good man betrayed by his ‘liberal’ party colleagues. But Brandis, and the scheming illiberal opportunist Turnbull, different story: they are scum.

    Ditto !

  67. Bribiejohn

    Percy Blakeney is spot on!

    How can any person of conviction who hold anything right of center ever vote again for any who were involved in the passing of the Powers of Commission. I certainly won’t!

    Until 18c goes there is an ever present danger for anyone who dares to oppose/question the opinion of another!

  68. We don’t need some pretentious foundation to preserve western values you fraudulent turds, all we need is the freedom to speak our minds.

    Well said, Infy.

    I keep making this very point to people – governments aren’t the source, they are the recipients. People make freedom, innovation, production, prosperity, art, not governments.

  69. candy

    I’ll go against the grain here and say that if he smoked and died of a heart attack his arteries were probably blocked. Stress aggravates illness but I’ve never heard of stress causing a healthy person with a healthy heart to die.

    It’s wicked to insinuate Tony Abbott caused Bill Leak’s death, or hounded to death by a government organisation. Great stress he endured for his beliefs, but I don’t think those people killed him.

  70. B Shaw

    Stress may have caused him to smoke more.
    Whoever caused the stress wears the blame.

  71. Lem

    Candy, I have to agree with you. Bill leak was a fine man, and great exponent of free speech, but it is a bit hysterical to be claiming that Triggs, Abbott and Brandis, amongst others are responsible for his death. For one thing by all accounts of those that knew him (and are therefore better placed to pass judgement on his state of mind) he was feeling relaxed and excited having launched his new book and won against the totalitarians. To express grief now by projecting unprovable blame onto others in my view diminishes his achievement of getting the AHRC to back down, and also makes him some sort of a victim, in stead of the brave, mocking and insouciant character he was.

    No doubt I’ll be attacked for this opinion, but carry on moving through the stages of grief.

  72. Senile Old Guy

    I’ll go against the grain here and say that if he smoked and died of a heart attack his arteries were probably blocked. Stress aggravates illness but I’ve never heard of stress causing a healthy person with a healthy heart to die.

    You are poorly informed. Stress, among other things, raises blood pressure and that is not good. Stress also causes the release of adrenaline, which is also not good.

    It’s wicked to insinuate Tony Abbott caused Bill Leak’s death, or hounded to death by a government organisation.

    A government created commission — the appalling Human Rights Commission — headed by the appalling Gillian Triggs was persecuting him for drawing cartoons. Fat Lips, of the HRC, actually called for people to make complaints against Leak. Yes, a government established and funded organisation was soliciting for complaints against free speech. It is utterly disgusting and an obscene use of taxpayer funds.

    Great stress he endured for his beliefs, but I don’t think those people killed him.

    Not ‘his beliefs’; they are fundamental principles of a free country. Or they should be. You do not seem to get that.

    Did the HRC kill him? No. Did these slimy, obscene and disgusting hypocrites contribute to the stress that he endured? Absolutely.

    Taxpayer money wasted is one thing.

    Taxpayer money spent in pursuit of evil is an entirely different thing. Fat Lips and Triggs are evil.

  73. Boambee John

    MV at 1213am

    Indeed, go full Alinsky on them one at a time.

    Forget the exact words, but something like “Pick your target, freeze it, personalise it. Individuals are more vulnerable than institutions”.

    However, I would start with the usurper, he is the one with the current power.

  74. incoherent rambler

    One definition of immortality is that a person’s love and work is remembered long after they are gone.

    Long after the HRC and the lowlife that inhabits it are forgotten,
    Bill Leak will be remembered.

  75. Leo G

    Are Trigger and Shootpossuminass described as Commonwealth public officials? If so, could they faces criminal charges?:

    142.2 Abuse of public office
    (1) A Commonwealth public official is guilty of an offence if:
    (b) the official does so with the intention of:
    (i) dishonestly obtaining a benefit for himself or herself or for another person; or
    (ii) dishonestly causing a detriment to another person.

    Penalty: Imprisonment for 5 years.

  76. Lem

    It is important to understand that Bill Leak wasn’t murdered by extremists in a hail of bullets – he was hounded by a properly established government agency in pursuance of objectives that are abhorrent to western civilised standards.

    Fixed it for you Sinclair.

    Bill Leak died (as must we all) as Bill Leak lived (as should we all): with courage, wit and insouciance, loving the mockery, and invigorated by the debate, and never a victim.

  77. A Lurker

    You are poorly informed. Stress, among other things, raises blood pressure and that is not good. Stress also causes the release of adrenaline, which is also not good.

    I am not a medico but the fight/flight imperative is coded into the DNA of all living creatures. The high level of stress that comprises the fight/flight imperative is useful for short durations – such as escaping from a ravaging sabre-toothed tiger or from some other immediate harm, or fighting the same.

    However long term stress (as two years exposed to the threat of being murdered by IS or a year exposed to the emotional stress and fatigue from the lawfare of S18C) is no doubt harmful. I would suggest that it is similar to the PTSD that many soldiers experience on their return from battle. In short, the human body and especially the cardiovascular system is not designed for long-term emotional stress.

    Through their inaction Abbott, Turnbull, and Brandis, and through deliberate action the AHRC, in my opinion, almost certainly collectively squeezed the life out of Bill Leak.

  78. John64

    It is important to understand that Bill Leak wasn’t murdered by extremists in a hail of bullets – he was hounded to his death by a properly established government agency in pursuance of objectives that are abhorrent to western civilised standards.

    You have eloquently nailed it, Professor Davidson.

    Despite the best/worst efforts of our political/ruling class it is rare that I feel ashamed to be an Australian, however, this is one of those occasions.

    Let it never be forgotten that the legacy of Triggs’ handling of the two highest profile Section 18C cases that have been before the AHRC (both ultimately shown to be completely without merit) is three young university students having their lives ruined for 4 years and the premature death of a fine Australian.

    There should be a special place in Hell for the Triggses and Soutphommasanes of this world.

  79. Lem

    Through their inaction Abbott, Turnbull, and Brandis, and through deliberate action the AHRC, in my opinion, almost certainly collectively squeezed the life out of Bill Leak.

    Really? Yet he was feted by the people of Australia in the pages of the Oz, backed by public figures, gave a rousing speech at his book launch that didn’t seem at all maudling or fearful, and won a decisive battle against the totalitarians. No doubt he suffered stress from his treatment by the AHRC, but he apparently had a lot of support, and seemingly was loving the debate, to which he had contributed as a satirist his whole life.

    I think it is a mistake to stoop to the victim politics of the left when coming to terms with a much loved person.

  80. Senile Old Guy

    No doubt he suffered stress from his treatment by the AHRC, but he apparently had a lot of support, and seemingly was loving the debate, to which he had contributed as a satirist his whole life. I think it is a mistake to stoop to the victim politics of the left when coming to terms with a much loved person.

    He had to move house and basically go into hiding because of threats from Islamic extremists. And you don’t think that was stressful?

    A government funded commission with, essentially, unlimited funds was prosecuting him for drawing cartoons. And you don’t think that was stressful?

    He, himself, said that he found that very stressful. Friends supported him but worried about his health.

    Most of us publish here under fake names. Why is that?

  81. Lem

    SOG:

    I said it was stressful, if you read what I wrote, but I can’t come at the hyperbole that he was killed by the AHRC, which is the thesis of Sinclair’s post.

    Here’s something from the Oz obit today from someone who actually knew him.

    Nor was he trying to “provoke a situation” when he turned his attention to Islamist terror and ended up in a high-security nightmare. His cartoon in response to the Charlie Hebdo massacre in January 2015, featuring an image of Mohammed, was apparently so offensive to Islamic State members fighting in Syria that they issued a fatwa against him, calling on “fellow mujaheddin” in Australia to hunt him down and kill him.

    As a result he was forced to move house and live under extreme security measures, unable even to tell stepdaughter Tasha what was going on. He and his family, he said later, were being terrorised and there was no doubt Leak felt the stress keenly.

    Despite that, in recent years Leak had begun for the first time to ­really find “happiness without any anguish” according to Pawle.

    “He was truly satisfied for almost the first time in his life with what he’d achieved and the man he’d become. Until then there was always an element of anguish and uncertainty about him.”

    If the AHRC killed him, they are truly cunning, to do so when he had won against them, and apparently was satisfied with his life.

    Of course there is an alternative hypothesis, which leaves the politics out: he was a man, he had heart disease, and he got an acute coronary thrombosis, just like that. And thus he died, as all we shall.

  82. Botswana O'Hooligan

    To me, an old bloke, Bill Leak was a mixture of Lennie Lower, Emile Mercier, perhaps Patrick Cook and a few others. Australia abounded with “real” Australians up to and just after WW2 and I have watched since my youth at the start of the forties the real Australians disappear and a bunch of feel good people take over almost everything and that includes a great many people who write comments on the various sites as this one, all bloody style and advice, all posturing, and no substance. Our mr. turnbull is such an example of city people and Pauline Hanson is an example of we others who unfortunately get dragged along because we are in the main illiterate in the wheeling and dealing of who is up who and who is paying the rent. I lived in Sydney and Melbourne for years as an airline pilot and the main topic of conversation was as above, who was up who and who was paying the rent, all about how much their house had appreciated in value and how bloody good their kids are, were, or whatever, and it was like being sent from the bush to school in a regional town all over again where pity help you if you had red hair or a catholic for the state schoolkids stoned you to and from. You people blaming that virago Triggs and Mr. Toothpaste or whatever the hell his name is for Bill Leak’s heart attack are an example of those state schoolkids and city folk, always blaming somebody else. If stress caused heart attacks many of us would be long dead but before blaming Triggs et al think of lifestyle and genetics and then remember Bill Leak for what he was, a decent and gifted poor bastard who didn’t deserve to be castigated and hounded by Triggs et al, but to blame them for his heart attack is going too far.

  83. So that’s it then. General consensus on the Cat is that we all carry on bemoaning the unfairness of it all, posting our ineffectual lamentations on a minor blogsite, and otherwise do nothing. SFA.

    What a useless bunch of wimps.
    Textor was right. You don’t matter.

  84. stackja

    Lem
    #2322383, posted on March 11, 2017 at 9:43 am
    If the AHRC killed him, they are truly cunning, to do so when he had won against them, and apparently was satisfied with his life.

    Damage done last year, finally caught up on him. We can but speculate.

  85. Ellen of Tasmania

    Bill Leak was under a death fatwa from Islamists, and in fear of his life, and instead of helping him the government tried to prosecute him for drawing a cartoon.

    It’s horrid to know that we are subsidising the very people who want to undermine our culture.

    I don’t think anyone is painting Bill as a victim – just pointing out the undeniable fact that long term stress is indeed a killer. The process is the punishment.

    The size of the government coffers, used against its own people to silence and intimidate, is frightening.

    Sincere condolences to Bill’s family – we have lost a warrior, but they have lost so much more.

  86. Senile Old Guy

    Lem, I won’t argue about it forever, but was stress a contributing factor? Very possibly. You say he ‘had heart disease’. Why? Yes, he smoked but he didn’t drink. He was, when he died, a few years older than me. I don’t smoke but I do have a drink. I do not have heart disease but I have experienced considerable stress (which I will not comment on further). Until recently, I could eat much and not put on weight. I now know why: stress burned the extra calories. Now, stress free, I have to diet and exercise.

  87. cynical1

    Infidel Tiger, in Parliament, would be an experience from which Parliament would never recover…

    Anonymous bluster won’t cut it when the backroom games begin…

  88. areff

    Hey, Lem. Let me harass you endlessly for no morally valid reason, make you spend days and hours with lawyers, grossly distract you from your work, then go on facebook and whip up a howling mob to call you ‘racist’ and abuse you as a person

    Sure, the HRC didn’t plunge a dagger into Bill’s heart, not directly.

    But the HRC did burden him with stress — and, damn them, gave no indication theywould ever let up. After one complaint was dismissed, he knew the pricks would be back to go him again on something else. They decided to punish him and the process was the punishment, and they decidd to harass him endlessly.

    When you’re ready to join the experiment and let me burden your life with 24/7 taxpayer-fund abuse and vilification, let me know. One of the medically qualified Cats can monitor your blood pressure and we’ll see if you do better than Bill.

  89. Senile Old Guy

    So that’s it then. General consensus on the Cat is that we all carry on bemoaning the unfairness of it all, posting our ineffectual lamentations on a minor blogsite, and otherwise do nothing. SFA.

    I told you Abbott is the wrong target. Abbott flinched but Turnbull, and the other left wing Liberals, are the problem. Why go after Abbott who is at least vaguely on side? It makes no sense.

    I can think of only two politicians who have said anything recently even vaguely conservative: Bernardi and Abbott. And you want to target the latter and, apparently, ignore Turnbull and Brandis?

  90. Lem

    Hey, Lem. Let me harass you endlessly for no morally valid reason, make you spend days and hours with lawyers, grossly distract you from your work, then go on facebook and whip up a howling mob to call you ‘racist’ and abuse you as a person

    Well I hope you wouldn’t, it would be most uncivil. However, there are plenty of people who suffer stress, much greater than that suffered by Leak, and they are not all dropping dead. If that were the case, hardly any trial would be brought to court.

    So let me re-iterate my thoughts. Yes Leak suffered stress, as most do to a lesser or greater degree through their lives, but Sinclair has provided no evidence to support his hypothesis that the totalitarians contributed to Leak’s demise, notwithstanding this stress.

    Leak’s sudden death is a tragedy for us all, most particularly his loved ones and those who know him best, but to suggest he is some sort of martyr mythologises his death as a victim. I didn’t know Leak, and I wager neither did 99% of the bloggers here, but by all accounts written so far in the press by those who did draw a picture of a much more robust personality who lived his life enjoying the satirical.

    I refuse to see him as a victim of the AHRC.

    I see him as the vanquisher.

  91. I told you Abbott is the wrong target. Abbott flinched but Turnbull, and the other left wing Liberals, are the problem. Why go after Abbott who is at least vaguely on side? It makes no sense.

    SOG, in warfare, you go for the vulnerable targets. If you are under attack by ground troops supported by main battle tanks, and all you have is a rifle, it’s pointless taking pot shots at the tanks.

    In this firefight the Liberal Party and the HRC are the tanks, Abbott is the foot soldier, and all we have is a bucketful of golf balls. All we can do is throw our golf balls as hard as we can at the soldier.

  92. Shezza

    While so many contributors are blaming the government and/or Turnbull/Abbott for not repealing 18C, why is no one recognising the original legislators who brought in these heinous laws? Wasn’t it the Keating government in its final term of government? Just another Labor policy minefield left to blow up a couple of decades later.

  93. Eddystone

    Look, we need someone to blame for the loss of Bill Leak.

    Triggs and that unpronounceable prick volunteered for the job.

    Now let the bastards cop some stress of their own. If they happen to drop dead because of it, well too bad.

  94. Maggie

    Bill Leak will never die, his fight will continue in us all. May God rest his soul and comfort those who grieve, his loving family and friends.

    I didn’t know Bill Leak but he was a part of every day and I didn’t realise until he was gone how much I appreciated his work which I had always loved, one never knows…

  95. Now let the bastards cop some stress of their own.
    If they happen to drop dead because of it, well too bad.

    Yeah, right. Let’s all send them an email telling them what nasty people they are.
    I’m sure that will do the trick. They’ll be gone by the end of the week.

    Pathetic.

  96. Vivien Johnson

    I haven’t been this angry about public events since a bunch of religious bigots, whipped up by media and a lying sugar mouth barrister sent Lindy Chamberlain to jail for life.
    That was in 1983
    And now we in Australia are perched on the edge of a spiritual 1983 heading to 1984- an Orwellian one.
    Those Abbott haters taking the opportunity to blame him for the witch hunting HRC are absurd. Direct your blame instead at the present Liberal party- the hand-washing Turnbull and all the other weaklings who would run a mile rather than do their job,
    And blame the ferocious warped hate mongers of the Left who are now gloating at the death of one who was worth the whole lot of them and more.

  97. Senile Old Guy

    SOG, in warfare, you go for the vulnerable targets. If you are under attack by ground troops supported by main battle tanks, and all you have is a rifle, it’s pointless taking pot shots at the tanks.

    In this firefight the Liberal Party and the HRC are the tanks, Abbott is the foot soldier, and all we have is a bucketful of golf balls. All we can do is throw our golf balls as hard as we can at the soldier.

    Pointless. The ‘foot soldier’ is more sympathetic to the conservative view than the people driving the tanks. The HRC is certainly heavily armoured against attack but the Liberal Party is not. It is closer to splitting and failing than ever in my time as a voter. And a big question is whether Turnbull will hang around when he loses the election or if he is dumped before it? Very uncertain, in my view, and I would not bet either way.

    Perhaps you are getting little support because you are aiming at the wrong target?

  98. Wil

    A mealy-mouthed segment about Bill on ABC Vic news last night. They distanced themselves from reality, no mention of anything of consequence. Just a short obit, remarkable for what it omitted.

  99. Perhaps you are getting little support because you are aiming at the wrong target?

    Perhaps, SOG. Or perhaps there is no support for actually doing something, other than sitting around blogging about pie-in-the-sky notions like destroying the entire Liberal Party. Or waiting for it to self-destruct under the weight of its own corruption.

    Tell you what, old mate. You go attack the entire Liberal Party, and I’ll go throw golf balls at Abbott.
    In a month or so we can get together and compare notes.

  100. Mike D

    No wonder I admire Roger Franklin in equal measure to the way I despise Triggs, Soupkitchen and the HRC

  101. Senile Old Guy

    …other than sitting around blogging about pie-in-the-sky notions like destroying the entire Liberal Party.

    Where did I write about ‘destroying the entire Liberal Party’? I did write:

    The primary target is the entire Liberal Party especially Turncoat.

    I did not write anything about destroying them. I did target Turnbull and Brandis and I specifically noted that the latter was difficult to do anything about because he is a Senator. If Turnbull loses the election, or is dumped before it, will he hang around? I doubt it.

    But you carry right on twisting what I write to your own ends. It is a popular hobby on the Cat.

  102. Chris

    I will not support a witch hunt against Abbott, a (I think) good man betrayed by his ‘liberal’ party colleagues. But Brandis, and the scheming illiberal opportunist Turnbull, different story: they are scum.

    And more.
    We are pretty damn effective, us and the people who share our outrage. We can destroy a traitorous Liberal Party.
    But we couldn’t smash the Leftfilth. We couldn’t persuade the media to use their questions to show the public what nitwitted things they pretend to believe, to fool themselves that they are better people than their neighbours.
    We can knife our own traitors but we can’t challenge the idiocy engine with any useful weapon.

  103. But you carry right on twisting what I write to your own ends.

    Fair enough, SOG. Point taken. Let me amend my last post:

    Or perhaps there is no support for actually doing something, other than sitting around blogging about pie-in-the-sky notions like NOT destroying the entire Liberal Party. Or waiting for it to self-destruct under the weight of its own corruption when Turdbull gets dumped or loses the next election.

    Better? Now you don’t have to actually do anything at all.

  104. stackja

    Lem
    #2322415, posted on March 11, 2017 at 10:21 am

    Triggs and co are still in business. Not vanquished.

  105. don coyote

    As I understand it , Abbott pulled back from modifying the 18c legislation on the advice of our security establishment.

  106. Abbott pulled back from modifying the 18c legislation
    on the advice of our security establishment.

    Abbott reneged on 18C in an effort to woo the Muslim vote in Western Sydney.
    “Team Australia” and all that.

  107. Steve at work

    Morning all. Something to think about.. HRC = Labor introduced. When Howard had control of Senate did SFA.. then, too hard for Abbott with hostile Senate. Mal T… no jobs in that!. Now, when Mal T loses to BS what hope is there that even if the current bedwetters did something, BS would just reinstall it with Green support.

  108. calli

    But the HRC did burden him with stress — and, damn them, gave no indication theywould ever let up. After one complaint was dismissed, he knew the pricks would be back to go him again on something else. They decided to punish him and the process was the punishment, and they decidd to harass him endlessly.

    That’s the kicker, areff.

    Imagine the pressure on a creative and fearless person every single day – will this be the one that puts me behind bars?

    You, of course, don’t need to imagine it. Your by-line exposes you to these foul tyrants.

  109. Ant

    I’m very saddened by the news of Bill Leak passing and wholeheartedly endorse comments calling for the abolition of the HRC and condemning the gutless fools in Canberra who don’t have the spine to do it.

  110. Dr Fred Lenin

    These u.n.communist “laws” the polliemsghots have brought in ,coukd be rendered impotent by simply Defunding no need to try to repeal ,simply cut their budgets to the bone . Can you imagine that triggs and southpawinsane getting their salaries cut to the minimum wage? With a staff of two part timers two hours a week .socialism dies without other peoples money .

  111. Joe

    They will never get rid of 18c. let alone the AHRC. They are too scared to do so because it would be the right thing to do.

    It’s the ONLY thing they have to exert control over the chattering classes and they will never rescind it.

  112. Joe

    …simply Defunding…

    Wasn’t there a proposal by Pres. Trump to put recalcitrant public servants that could not be sacked on 1 dollar a day salary.

  113. rickw

    Well said Sinc, well said.

    If the Aboriginal Computer lab boys were not so young, they could have readily gone the same way.

    The entire Australian Politcal Establishment has blood on their hands, they are unAustralian mongrels of the highest order.

  114. Tintarella di Luna

    I wish Tony Abbott had repealed 18C also. I would love to know his inner thinking of why he didn’t.

    His spineless backbench you know, the feckless ducks he listened to on 18C who then knifed him for his inclusiveness. The loathsome creep who is my local federal member will be getting a letter from me pointing out that he along with the gutless rest of them were part of the reason Bill Leak was hounded to death.

  115. Tintarella di Luna

    The entire Australian Politcal Establishment has blood on their hands, they are unAustralian mongrels of the highest order.

    and let’s not forget the begetters of these gruesome creature the RDA18C and the Australian INHuman Rights Commission — the Australian Liars Party — this legislation and the Commission carry the DNA of the Labor Party which itself is supported by the thugs in the Union movement. But the Liberal party and Labor are as one on this — they all have to go.

  116. Gab

    Bill Leak was under a death fatwa from Islamists, and in fear of his life, and instead of helping him the government tried to prosecute him for drawing a cartoon.

    He died for free speech.

  117. Patrick

    The repealing of 18c, indeed, the entire destruction of the AHRC should be named “The Leak Review”

  118. mh

    And let’s be clear. Bill Leak died of a massive heart attack after being dragged through a kangaroo pseudo-court by a bunch of jumped up, overpaid taxpayer-funded officials — paid by you and me

    This was after having to move his family upon direction from the Federal Police because of very credible death threats from Australia’s Muslim community.

  119. Tintarella di Luna

    He died for free speech.

    He sure did, hounded to death by an instrument of government. I loathe the Liberal party, even though it’s dead it’s zombies continue to lumber about — it needs cremating and burial asap — Go Cory Bernardi —

  120. B Shaw

    I hate to say it again
    but people had their chance

    to withhold their vote
    when that time came

    but no . .
    they couldn’t bring themselves
    to do it

  121. mh

    I hope WA voters fire a shot across the bow of the Establishment today with a strong showing for Pauline Hanson’s One Nation.

  122. Muddy

    I agree with memoryvault: you always choose the weakest target. That’s what our ideological opponents do, and so far it has worked wonders for them. Abbott is not an option for renewal. Nothing and nobody will save ‘conservatism’ in Australian politics because it simply does not exist, and has not for some decades. As I keep repeating ad nauseum: THE LIBERAL PARTY IS DEAD. Put it this way, if your beloved family pet passes away, do you still drag it around the streets for a walk every evening, hoping that the bumps and bruises will somehow jolt it back to life? No, that would be sick and disturbed. Mourn for it, remember what it once was and the memories it gave you, then MOVE ON. Bury it or cremate it. There is nothing you can do to resurrect it. Politically speaking, Diet Labor is like your family pet. It’s time to acknowledge that it no longer offers anything to you. Make the hard decision to move on, and allow the opportunity for something else to arise in its place, eventually. That isn’t disrespectful, it’s just life.

    Collateral damage happens. Abbott may not be the most important target, but he is still a target. There must be consequences for one’s actions or inactions. Let’s make it happen and build from there. Flex some muscle and pick them off one at a time. Abbott must go. He is the bloated, lifeless goldfish that jumped from the tank rather than at least try to swim against the current as he had promised. A man’s word defines him. ABBOTT IS IRRELEVANT. The whole party is next.

  123. Lem

    Lem
    #2322415, posted on March 11, 2017 at 10:21 am

    Triggs and co are still in business. Not vanquished.

    True. Still they did not beat Leak in his personal battle.

    And that’s something to be pretty darned pleased about.

  124. Roger

    Bill Leak was under a death fatwa from Islamists, and in fear of his life, and instead of helping him the government tried to prosecute him for drawing a cartoon.

    Which, in a roundabout way, proves the adage that the pen is mightier than the sword (and more to be feared by those who seek to suppress truth).

    No-one in contemporary Australia exemplified that more than Leak.

  125. Senile Old Guy

    Or perhaps there is no support for actually doing something, other than sitting around blogging about pie-in-the-sky notions like NOT destroying the entire Liberal Party. Or waiting for it to self-destruct under the weight of its own corruption when Turdbull gets dumped or loses the next election.

    Better? Now you don’t have to actually do anything at all.

    Carry on, MV. You plan on going for Abbott, via a ‘formal petition’ on Change.org, because he is more vulnerable and:

    There is a reasonably good chance Leak, a brave man of conviction, would still be alive today, if Abbott, a weak political opportunist, had fulfilled his election conviction to repeal 18C.

    I don’t disagree with you on this but Abbott had no hope since he had no support from most of the Liberal Party. And who stuffed up the original attempt to take down 18C? Brandis. And we all know who took down Abbott.

  126. Gab

    Consider buying Bill Leak’s latest book – before it gets banned by the government via the urgings of the AHRC.

    http://www.wilkinsonpublishing.com.au/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=527&tracking=58b39a5e7fce3

  127. herodotus

    A good moment to flick some money to Cory Barnadi.

  128. Graham

    Yet his deranged enemies live on. There’s no justice.

  129. Muddy

    I’ve just realised the contradiction in my last post. What I meant was that Abbott is now irrelevant to the political process, hence there is no reason for him to remain. He cannot and will not do anything for us, so we can dispose of him. If he cannot or will not do the job he is paid for, we should not be paying him. Let’s raise our expectations a bit, cease making excuses, and stop being vaguely, resignedly satisfied with mediocrity. High expectations will only work, however, if there are consequences to those expectations not being met. Bill Leak was a doer rather than a waffler, right? Using his creativity, that is. So how is all this waffle a tribute to a doer?

  130. herodotus

    Yes Gab, have done that too.

  131. Tintarella di Luna

    18C goes against all civilised etiquette – where it is accepted in polite society that it gives more offence to take offence when no offence was intended. 18C and the SDA is a law that is uncivilised.

    Brigham Young – “He who takes offense when no offense is intended is a fool, and he who takes offense when offense is intended is a greater fool.”

    How many fools?

  132. herodotus

    If he cannot or will not do the job he is paid for, we should not be paying him.

    Not just him.

  133. stackja

    Muddy – TA stopped the boats, abolished the CO2 tax. The J.. lobby stopped 18c repeal. Why blame TA.

  134. stackja

    Again the J… Lobby wants 18c. How do Australians who want 18c repealed counter this.

  135. memoryvault wrote at 9:52 am “So that’s it then. General consensus on the Cat is that we all carry on bemoaning the unfairness of it all, posting our ineffectual lamentations on a minor blogsite, and otherwise do nothing. SFA.”

    NO. Not all of us. I wrote to my federal member (National Party) on it and spoke with him forcefully yesterday.

    He was fast to emphasize that he is NOT Liberal.

    However, as he is in a safe seat, I don’t see him shirt-fronting Turncoat or Mr Joyce on Monday.

  136. Muddy

    Muddy – TA stopped the boats, abolished the CO2 tax. The J.. lobby stopped 18c repeal. Why blame TA.

    I once smiled at an old lady and patted a kitten. Since then, however, I’ve focused on my more selfish, evil desires. But I did once smile at an old lady and pat a kitten. So that makes me all good for the next few decades.

    Yes, that is horribly facetious, and I don’t intend that as a personal insult stackja, but again, it comes down to expectations. Don’t we employ these people to act in our best interests? How’s that working out for us? In my job, if I don’t perform, I’ll be shown the door. In my personal life, if I don’t perform, there are consequences to my relationship with significant others. Yes, the man showed strength for a while and achieved significant goals, but since then? It’s like old Gough living out that one single day for the rest of his life.
    We deserve better. But if we are not prepared to express those high expectations, how can we expect them to be met?

  137. He cannot and will not do anything for us, so we can dispose of him.

    Forget it, Muddy. The armchair generals of the Cat have no idea of actual political warfare.
    Hacksaw Ridge is the reality. This is the Cat version.

  138. Muddy

    memoryvault.
    I haven’t yet seen Hacksaw Ridge, but I envision political warfare more as underworld kneecappings, kidnappings, and standover tactics, much of which needs to happen in the shadows. All metaphorical of course. I share your frustration.

  139. Gab

    The armchair generals of the Cat

    LOL. Written & spoken by one of the armchair generals of the Cat.

  140. stackja

    Muddy – High expectations? I agree! Now comes the hard part having an politician to meet them. Will voters accept such political realities?

  141. Gilas

    tch.. tch.. tch… Cats… come on!

    Bill’s 18C issues had as much to do with his death as breathing oxygen has to do with cancer aetiology, both are physiologically plausible but hardly cause-and-effect.
    Pseudo-scientific nonsense isn’t the preserve of the demented left, it seems.

    His death is surely a great tragedy. A brilliant cartoonist, ethical giant, lost when much too young, but let’s celebrate him and his work, and not fall into the worshipping of false Gods.

    Left-retards already excel at that.

  142. stackja

    Armchair generals of the past had seen action and knew the costs. Today defence personnel seem lacking.

  143. Senile Old Guy

    What I meant was that Abbott is now irrelevant to the political process, hence there is no reason for him to remain. He cannot and will not do anything for us, so we can dispose of him. If he cannot or will not do the job he is paid for, we should not be paying him. Let’s raise our expectations a bit, cease making excuses, and stop being vaguely, resignedly satisfied with mediocrity. High expectations will only work, however, if there are consequences to those expectations not being met.

    To be clear, I am not defending Abbott, although I acknowledge that he did some things. But is he any more irrelevant than the others in the Liberal Party? And my Liberal MP went at the last election. And I set preferences to ensure that my vote did not end up with the LNP. Necessarily, that meant it ended with the ALP, due to the way votes flow in my electorate.

  144. I envision political warfare more as underworld kneecappings, kidnappings, and standover tactics, much of which needs to happen in the shadows.

    You’ll enjoy Hacksaw Ridge then.

    The hero spends the first half of the movie getting the shit kicked out of him by people ostensibly on his own side – like Gab above, and the second half creeping around the battleground in the dark, evading the enemy, looking for wounded survivors to save. Just like blogging here.

    The battleground is strewn with dead, rotting, maggot-filled corpses – just like the Liberal Party.

    Install Adblock Plus first, before viewing.

  145. notafan

    I’d say putting some blame for Leak’s death at the feet of fear of life threats from muslims against him and his family and being subject to an abuse of law by an out of control commission with millions at its disposal is pretty reasonable.

    He knew darn well that they were going to continue to create victim after victim til he kowtowed.

    They got what they wanted, anyhow.

  146. I envision political warfare more as underworld kneecappings, kidnappings, and standover tactics, much of which needs to happen in the shadows.

    You’ll enjoy Hacksaw Ridge then.

    The hero spends the first half of the movie getting the shit kicked out of him by people ostensibly on his own side – like Gab above, and the second half creeping around the battleground in the dark, evading the enemy, looking for wounded survivors to save. Just like blogging here.

    The battleground is strewn with dead, rotting, maggot-filled corpses – just like the Liberal Party.

  147. Razor

    TA would have kept my support had he, when it was seen to be unlikely to get the 18c change thru the Senate, Maintained the shill – even until now. He went silent on it which revealed to me that he has a fatal weakness on honour and integrity. YOU KEEP YOUR WORD. Rem: you are only as good as your word is good. I can surmise that he is now no help for democracy as he pursues a revenge strategy NOT a comeback strategy.

    There is no other valid leadership within the Liberals which can steer them out of the wilderness. 40 years is their penalty and forty years is ours as well.
    More blood will be wasted before the promised land is sighted.

  148. Winston

    @Memory Vault
    The irony of suggesting one only picks the battles one can win and therefore we should be going after Tony Abbott’s scalp, whose main crime was only that he wouldn’t take on a battle that he had no chance of winning, seems to have got lost in the fog of war.

    More von Clausewitz than Sun Tzu, I’m afraid.

  149. Filbert

    Bill Leak has been martyred on the altar of Political Correctness at the HRC.

  150. But is he any more irrelevant than the others in the Liberal Party?

    Totally irrelevant, SOG. This is war.
    The only relevant question is who or what is the softest target.
    For the moment that is Abbott. It’s not personal.

  151. rusty

    Can somebody put together a letter that we can use as a template that we can all use to inundate our local member to repeal the 18c in memory of Bill?

  152. There have been so many tears shed over news of Bill’s death.

    I wonder if, as well as deep grief over the loss of his talent and integrity, there is in all of us a sense of shame that we did not do enough to oppose the campaign of stealth that progressively has robbed us of our most precious liberty – freedom of speech.

  153. Senile Old Guy

    But is he any more irrelevant than the others in the Liberal Party?

    Totally irrelevant, SOG. This is war.
    The only relevant question is who or what is the softest target.
    For the moment that is Abbott. It’s not personal.

    Go for it, MV.

  154. Bruce

    “….he was hounded to his death by a properly established government agency in pursuance of objectives that are abhorrent to western civilised standards.”

    “Process as Punishment”.

    There’s a LOT of it about!

  155. Gab

    like Gab above, and the second half creeping around the battleground in the dark, evading the enemy, looking for wounded survivors to save. Just like blogging here.

    Hilarious and delusional.

  156. Rob

    A first for Australia and maybe the world – death by Human Rights Commission.

  157. Hilarious and delusional.

    I wasn’t referring to myself, Gab, but to the act of blogging here generally.
    By everybody. It’s what we do.

  158. Gab

    I wasn’t referring to myself

    Hmmm, yes. You’re an armchair general on here everyday writing lots and lots and making judgements and pronouncements against other people here for doing exactly the same.

  159. notafan

    And what precisely, as private citizens, can we do?

    Letter writing to MPs, trying to convert family and friends, voting, donating.

    What else?

  160. The Human Rights Commission has to go. It is not fit for purpose, and a tool of patronage by left-wing troughers.

    Our human rights are already protected by our Constitution and common law. If these fail to protect our human rights, we have the power to change them so that they do so. Having a parallel system of “human rights” that inevitably morph over time into anything but, encourages judicial activism and draws power away from our elected legislature and executive, and into the hands of our unelected judiciary.

    Human rights, in other words, are a radical negation of our civil and democratic rights.

  161. Gab

    Human rights

    in Australia applies only to those who carry water for the leftist agenda.

  162. And what precisely, as private citizens, can we do?

    Letter writing to MPs, trying to convert family and friends, voting, donating.

    What else?

    All of that doesn’t quite cut it, Notafan. It is easy to do all of that – particularly preaching to the converted (family, friends etc).

    What is damn hard (and sometimes dangerous) is “taking on” the unconverted – especially the Left.

    Just letting your values be seen and heard is important. Too many good people avoid sensitive topics, for fear of offence – and sadly, for fear of not being able to “hold their own”. We just can’t afford to do that anymore.

    My most scary experience was in approaching a “Dawa” session in my local shopping centre where an imam had set up a stall to hand out Korans & do a bit of proselytising. But by conversing civilly, but firmly, I was able to get my values across in public in front of gaping shoppers. I think that was important. I note that the imam has not been seen there again.

    But most importantly, I think that it is imperative for all of us to make sure that our kids and our grandkids are exposed to alternate views to the multi-culti garbage that they are daily exposed to in our schools. We should also actively protest should such teaching go beyond a parameters of fair comment, as it so often does.

    As Bill Leak clearly understood, we are in an unspoken war here, to preserve our culture and our way of life. And war requires extraordinary acts of courage, as he, of all people, demonstrated time and time again.

  163. Jannie

    There are armchair generals at the Cat, armchair officers, sergeants, troopers and barracks lawyers. Also armchair medics.

  164. notafan

    Preaching to the converted, like here?

    No no my family friends and social media circle are mostly on the other side but thanks for assuming.

    I’ve been called all sorts of things for not toeing the PC line too.

    But good for you scaring off that iman in front of a cast of thousands.

    I’m sure his dawwahing days were over.

  165. Senile Old Guy

    Here’s a piece Bill Leak had published last December:

    A thousand words.

  166. Crossie

    I find Brandis a vile politician whom the Liberals should get rid of along with halal Mal. Brandis branded Liberal Party voters as bigots who wanted to repeal 18C just so they could humiliate poor minorities. Freedom of speech is a foreign concept to him.

    Why would anyone vote for Liberals as long as this man is in its leadership?

  167. Notafan – I was not meaning to be judgemental – particularly on this blog where I have great respect and fondness for contributors.

    But these are perilous times and I believe we all need to go out of our comfort zone every day of our lives on these issues.

  168. B Shaw

    Good for you, Vicki.
    I like your example of ‘pushback’.

  169. A Lurker

    And what precisely, as private citizens, can we do?
    Letter writing to MPs, trying to convert family and friends, voting, donating.
    What else?

    Take a leaf out of the Left’s manual. We agitate. Bring up the issues that cannot be named. Work them into ordinary conversations. Wake people up, make them as angry as we are. Australian complacency has to be utterly destroyed. Make people aware exactly what is at stake.

  170. notafan

    Our politicians fail us time and time again.

    As Leak amply demonstrated getting out of our comfort zones these days can involve credible death threats and destruction of livelihoods.

  171. stackja

    Leftists don’t understand any things are wrong. They believe there are not any problems.

  172. notafan

    Well Lurker that is what I meant about converting family and friends.

    Too many on the left have atrophied their brains so you have to pick your targets. I expect those too far gone will keep on denying til a sword is at their throat

    Publically critising islam is risky. Doesn’t mean we don’t do it.

  173. jupes

    Why Gillian Triggs still as a job, especially after lying to parliamentary committees on numerous occassions, is incredulous but symptomatic of the feckless government we have today.

    So true. Why have penalties for lying to parliament if you won’t enforce them?

  174. jupes

    Again the J… Lobby wants 18c. How do Australians who want 18c repealed counter this.

    Tell them to fuck off. They are wrong.

  175. Michaelc58

    The stress of s18C now killing people.
    But what will we do about it and do for Bill Leak’s memory?
    Anyone angry enough with time and energy to organize a Bill Leak 18C protest at, say Hyde park, like we did for the carbon tax, I will fund.
    Moderators here can contact me.

  176. JamesS

    Leak for posthumous 2018 Australian Of The Year.

    If not, the Australia Day Council should face the same fate as the AHRC.

    Excuse the manago-psychobabble, the Libs will soon understand that if they are not part of the solution they are part of the problem.

  177. Lefties are reprobates, destroying Australia

  178. stackja

    Jupes no government can ignore a powerful lobby.

  179. notafan

    Not waving placards

    You think the msm would cover even if a million turned up?

    Besides conservatives work, they dont have the leisure time for hanging round parks wearing fairy wings.

    Email phone letter messenger. Short polite pointed.

  180. Michaelc58

    Yes, that’s our problem.
    We conservatives are busy working making wealth, while the left bureaucrats and dole bludgers are busy destroying our society.

  181. Michaelc58

    During the Carbon Tax period, we did get together to demonstrate, were covered by media and I believe we did make a difference.
    I recall Angry Anderson MC’d and Pauline Hanson among others spoke.
    We featured an 8 foot blow up doll of Pinocchio-nosed Gillard (made in China) (had to have 2 paid guards guarding it to make sure no one stabbed her – imagine the bad publicity).
    Was good to be actually doing something.

  182. notafan

    Hip pocket nerve works better.

    Set up a protest about skyrocketing electricity prices

  183. Nullity Ipso Facto

    In honour of Bill Leak, I’m all in favour of having a fighter jet strafe the HRC, preferably with Gillian and Tim still inside, and then, after the rubble is cleared, erecting a statue to Bill on the barren site. How fitting.

  184. Rev. Archibald

    Anyone doubting the ability of stress to kill has probably never experienced the type of event that can churn you up inside and keep you angry for day after day after day for months or years on end.
    The problem with an out of control government sector is their ability to impact people in this way.
    As governments take up over 40% of the economy and an ever larger part of the culture these things are happening to more people.
    I can tell you it takes a toll on your health.
    The sense of injustice gets you. The feeling that it just isn’t right. This more than inconvenience or even financial loss.
    Make no mistake about it: what Bill Leak went through at the hands of government instrument would have torn his guts out.
    Depending on personality type, you may or may not show it externally.

  185. Squirrel

    In the absence of Senate numbers to wind it up, the HRC should have its funding substantially reduced and it should be relocated to western Sydney – preferably close to one of the refugee enclaves, so that it will be that much closer to at least some of the people it is dedicated to serving.

    HRC staff commuting to such a location from homes in the inner west, eastern suburbs, lower north shore etc., would also have the enriching experience of somewhat greater day to day exposure to the transport delights of a big, “welcoming” global city – likewise when travelling within the city on official business (by public transport, which would be made mandatory, by Ministerial direction) to important appointments (ABC studios etc. etc.).

  186. Tel

    HRC staff commuting to such a location from homes in the inner west, eastern suburbs, lower north shore etc., would also have the enriching experience of somewhat greater day to day exposure to the transport delights of a big, “welcoming” global city – likewise when travelling within the city on official business (by public transport, which would be made mandatory, by Ministerial direction) to important appointments (ABC studios etc. etc.).

    I’m sure that Punchbowl Boys High School can spare a room and make them feel at home.

    Anything on the Bankstown line would be suitable, it’s the slowest, most shitty line in Sydney.

  187. Bradley Clarke

    Drain the Swamp. Australia needs a Champion. Very Sadly there is not one among the current offering.

  188. heather

    Perfectly put Roger Franklin and a big thank you for saying it. RIP Bill Leak. You have gone to a good place, a place where you will never see those who were against you.

  189. Bruce

    Beer Whisperer said:

    “We don’t need some pretentious foundation to preserve western values you fraudulent turds, all we need is the freedom to speak our minds”.

    The catch is this: These vermin will NEVER “give” you freedom.

    Firstly, it is not in their nature to do so. They will let you run, briefly, then reef hard on the leash connected to the choker chain around your neck. Then do it again and again, because that is how they get their jollies at YOUR expense.

    Secondly, and ultimately because, whilst they may all suffer from pharaonic fantasies, freedom is NOT THEIRS to “give”.

    , it is NOT theirs to “give”.

  190. Nick

    “The Australian Human Rights Commission has blood on its hands”

    I suspect that this well-considered pronouncement will come as a surprise to the medical community. I shudder to think of the hundreds of millions of dollars being wasted on cardiovascular research and interventions such as the use of statins and blood pressure medications.

    Apparently, all we needed to do was to disband the AHRC.

    Who among us can have any reason to doubt Sinclair Davidson’s qualifications and position as Bill Leak’s personal physician nor question Sinclair Davidson’s vast body of statistically compelling peer-reviewed epidemiological evidence of the causal link between the AHRC and cardiac health?

  191. Ron Lel

    So here is my question. I read many of the things written about Bill Leak. How is it that this man drew the disgraceful racist aboriginal cartoon? Whatever happened to drag him down to that level?

  192. Tim Soutpommasane you touted for complaints, if you have a conscience it will not let you rest.

  193. Hugh

    It is indeed sad that Bill Leak’s latter years were attended by attacks from two organisations which were thought to be founded on opposing ideologies, ISIS, already a byword for fundamentalist extremism, and the AHRC, which, thanks to Gillian Triggs, has now become a byword for extremist political correctness, born of poor judgment, incompetence, the sinister opacity of its operation, and the complete inability of its President to explain its operations truthfully to the Parliament. The head count of the AHRC’s victims is now known to be seven (perhaps there are others that will come to light). First, the three innocent QUT students who fought and won a case so lacking in merit, in both its inception and in the in the gross incompetence with which it was prosecuted by the AHRC, that it was laughed out of Court, both at first instance and on appeal. Secondly, the three defendants who, “settled” the case, whereby the complainant was unjustly enriched in the sum of $15,000. And thirdly, Bill Leak. Does the President’s tin ear prevent her from hearing the eulogies mourning this brilliant man? It’s not as if they come from the proto Nazis, the neo-cons, the hard right or the racist lobby. The eulogies come from Malcolm Turnbull, Barry Humphries, Greg Sheridan, John Hartigan, even Leigh Sales! When she is “digging in her garden” after 30 June, and “hopefully smelling a few roses”, will the President herself be bathed in the odour of sanctity?

  194. Yeahsurewhatever

    Didn’t appreciate until scanning above how many qualified pathologists contributed to this comment stream.
    Looking forward to public release of full post-mortem report which might disclose actual cause of BL’s alleged premature demise.
    Hey just speculating pending above, but some high-risk cohorts are potentially vulnerable to “early” atherosclerotic vascular including coronary disease and premature death: e.g indigenous peoples. Some blame poor lifestyle choices as major risk factors.

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