It’s still not too late for the Feds

WA election: Joe Francis says Colin Barnett should have been dumped last year. Are we looking to the future? Are they listening in Canberra?

One of Colin Barnett’s senior ministers, Joe Francis, has launched an extraordinary attack on the Liberal Party’s broken promises and “dysfunctional” election campaign while admitting that the unpopular Premier should have been dumped last year.

Mr Francis, who is fighting to retain his seat after the Liberal bloodbath in Western Australia, said today voters had “disdain” for Mr Barnett personally and he believed replacing him as leader with deputy leader Liza Harvey would have saved many seats.

The former adviser to Tony Abbott is seen by many Liberals as the best MP to take over the demoralised party but he is four votes behind his Labor opponent in Jandakot and a final result will not be known for days.As bloodletting in the Liberal party intensifies over the WA election disaster, Mr Francis agreed the Liberal Party did not have the “guts” to dump the deeply unpopular Mr Barnett.

Every analogy is ultimately false. But the parallels are so strong, even the Federal Parliamentary party may be getting the drift. I don’t want to wake up after some bloodbath of a similar kind in 2019 with some nitwit saying we should have dumped Malcolm back in 2017. The mystery really is why no one does.

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78 Responses to It’s still not too late for the Feds

  1. Zyconoclast

    If premiers and PMs are really first among equals it shouldn’t be that hard.

    I notice in Japan that the PM will reign quite easily. Here they hang on like grim death.

  2. BorisG

    The mystery really is why no one does.

    Mainly because they do not want to repeat Rudd-Gillard-Rudd charade.

    But also because Turnbull is not Barnett. He is not an eight year fixture and has not produced the biggest debt (rather he has not managed to reduce debt created by others). He is also reasonably popular with the big end of town (Barnett was not).

  3. BorisG

    Barnett used to be a popular down to earth Premier, no similarity with the elitist Turnbull.

    But he eventually became arrogant and picked fights with everyone. MT doesn’t.

  4. Motelier

    It’s still not too late for the Feds

    to hold a funeral for the Liberal Party.

    Fixed It!

  5. Ubique

    Colin Barnett did a fine job as Premier. During the mining construction boom he was faced with having to provide all forms of new infrastructure to meet the needs of a population growing at 3.5 percent per annum. The extraordinary demand for labour in the mining industry pushed up costs throughout the State economy, further pressuring the State budget. The government ended up paying its teachers, nurses and police too much; and got caught by the downturn in commodity prices. The mining industry proved capable of cutting costs quickly and deep; but government struggled and largely failed to do so owing to the inflexibility of its industrial relations arrangements.

    We need to remember that while WA had to provide so much in the way of new infrastructure and expanded services, the benefits of the mining boom largely went to the Comonwealth in the form of higher company and income tax receipts. All WA got was the a massive reduction in its GST refund, infrastructure bills, the most expensive airfares in Australia, $500 a night hotel rooms and $5 coffees.

    Barnett was otherwise handicapped by having to deal with the agrarian socialist Nationals and billions of dollars wasted on Royalties For Regions. At least we no longer have to bear Grylls – he lost his Pilbara seat.

  6. Pedro the Ignorant

    Joe Francis conceded the seat of Jandakot Tuesday afternoon.

    Pity.

    He was one of the better ones in the Barnett government.

  7. stackja

    MT said TA had to go because of survey polls. CB lost surveys then election. MT either changes or gets voted out by the by LNP or voters.

  8. Perth Trader

    Ubique

    #2326614, posted on March 15, 2017 at 1:21 am
    Ubique…a very fair appraisal .

  9. Ray

    So let us assume the Parliamentary Liberals did the right thing and dumped Turnbull, who would they choose to replace him? Let us look at the available talent, cabinet ministers who sit in the House of Representatives sine these are the most likely candidates

    Julie Bishop? Her performance as shadow Treasurer was so bad she only lasted five months in the role.

    George Brandis? Remember everyone has the right to be a bigot.

    Scott Morrison? The failed Treasurer.

    Kelly O’Dwyer? Minister for destroying the Liberal brand with its own base via the superannuation tax reforms.

    Christoper Pyne? The $50 billion submarine man.

    Greg Hunt? Who masterminded the current RET deal which will see the countries energy crisis worsen over coming years.

    Peter Dutton? The man who referred to a female reporter as “a mad fucking witch” and then inadvertently sent the text message to the reporter in question.

    Steve Ciobo? Who believes that the first home buyers scheme was so successful it should be doubled.

    Christian Porter? Need I go further than the fact that he will likely loose his seat at the next election given the swing in WA.

    Josh Frydenberg? Given that we are in the midst of a national energy crisis, does anyone actually know who the Minister for Energy is?

    Not the most awe inspiring bunch are they? Indeed, the available talent is so good that we could even contemplate a return of Tony Abbott, who is nothing short of a failed Prime Minister.

    It may not be too late for the Federal Liberal Party, but it is too late for Australia.

  10. notafan

    TA is the logical replacement.

    Think there is a still a lot of simmering resentment amongst the hoi polloi about the means by which a regular Aussie bloke was knifed by a blue blood.

    The same hoi polloi who don’t give a monkey’s for those rules that they see as undermining their democratic rights.

    ‘He raised taxes and jibbed on 18c’ they’ll squeal.

    TA may have learned his lesson on compromising with traitors inside and outside the party.

    As for the RGR reprieve, a lesson for both sides of politics. Stop embarrassing Australia.

  11. Baldrick

    There’s no way Michael Trumble and his ego will be going to the next election facing certain defeat.

    He’ll stage his own coup, leaving his replacement the blame for the loss and his ego intact.

  12. john constantine

    The idea that shorten will rule and ruin for one term , and then leave a fixable Australia for a glorious new sensible right of center party is flawed.

    Their shorten is a contemptable joke to look at, but we need to look at the fate of all those that crossed him.

    Fact is that shorten utterly crushes his rivals, nobody has ever risen from the ruins to oppose ehorten twice. Nobody has ever followed in shortens path in a rise to power, shorten burns all his bridges behind him, burns all the ladders he climbed personally, no more rags to riches, up and coming male labor wunderkinds in shortens party.

    What will it take to rebuild victoria after caliph andrews?. What will it take to rebuild South Australia after their weatherfilth?. The labor premiers are pitiful and pathetic, but have fundementally transformed their states to places where tories have no future.

    A trillion dollars in vote buying debt, millions of imported peasant clients and tenants to vote-rig marginal electorates, the blatant branch-stacking of public service, law and disorder the electoral office, anything that can club his opponents, shorten will do anything to be emperor for life.

    Their shorten understands power, its pursuit,and its retention more completely than any other auistralian politician–how else can any such pathetic and contemptable individual, such a ridiculous joke of a shallow man be within a carcrash of running the country?.

    The purges of opposition to shorten will be based on the purges of the opposition to Stalin, only more merciless.

  13. Dorothy

    John Constantine. Brilliantly put!!!!

  14. Texas Jack

    The less said of Turnbull the better. That the Coalition face an electoral battering with the current leadership is hardly worth the waste of bytes.

    A shrewd backbench would realise that at this point there’s no use searching around in hopes of finding another anodyne pop starlet. They don’t really exist and punters are so on to the charade it’d be worse than Rudd MkII trying to argue for shifting Garden Island. No, they need to enact less of a smooth segue and more of a heavy-metal revolution to bring in an interesting hard-head known for straight talk and strong political convictions. One who’s also able to connect political punches, rebalance the front bench, and encourage a return of a still deserting base. That’d be Peter Dutton.

  15. Crossie

    I don’t want to wake up after some bloodbath of a similar kind in 2019 with some nitwit saying we should have dumped Malcolm back in 2017. The mystery really is why no one does.

    The Libs are now stubbornly refusing to do the right thing because they would have to admit that they did the wrong thing by installing halal Mal. Those bastards are prepared to destroy the party and the country than damage their egos.

    The longer this goes on the more voters harden their contempt for the Libs.

    Barnaby Joyce has also been badly damaged by simply being in coalition with the egomaniac.

  16. Crossie

    No, they need to enact less of a smooth segue and more of a heavy-metal revolution to bring in an interesting hard-head known for straight talk and strong political convictions. One who’s also able to connect political punches, rebalance the front bench, and encourage a return of a still deserting base. That’d be Peter Dutton.

    If Dutton were the man for the job he would already have done it.

    Is he waiting for some sort of inspiration from the upcoming Queensland election?

  17. sabena

    Are they listening in Canberra?
    No,they are not.
    The same car crash is coming.

  18. Texas Jack

    Crossie; If Dutton were the man for the job he would already have done it…

    So you’re ruling everyone out Crossie?

  19. Mark M

    $1.75M buys you right to drive the bus over the cliff.

  20. Zyconoclast

    Peter Dutton? The man who referred to a female reporter as “a mad fucking witch” and then inadvertently sent the text message to the reporter in question.

    A bit harsh on PD.
    the rest are listed for policy failure.

    PD made an accurate comment and then mishandled his phone. I’m sure most people have done this.

    Also, why do we have a federal energy minister?

  21. Zyconoclast

    A shrewd backbench A shrewd backbench

    Such a thing exists?
    They are either money hungry power freaks desperate for the perks of the front bench.
    Or bench warmers.

  22. Texas Jack

    Peter Dutton? The man who referred to a female reporter as “a mad fucking witch” and then inadvertently sent the text message to the reporter in question.

    Authentic straight talk, and completely on the money. Why the fuck do we waste brain cells agonising over whether this is some sign of poor electoral instincts? That people who apparently can’t stand the ongoing march of PC madness insist on spraying it around themselves is part of the great big problem we have. Fuck it off I say….

  23. calli

    Their shorten understands power, its pursuit,and its retention more completely than any other auistralian politician–how else can any such pathetic and contemptable individual, such a ridiculous joke of a shallow man be within a carcrash of running the country?.

    Thanks, john.

    A good reminder that we’re not actually faced with a marionette for PM, regardless of how Leak portrayed him.

    Time to get serious about this schemer.

  24. calli

    On that image, Leak would have been closer to the mark had he drawn puppet Shorten, with the CFMEU goon’s hand up his back, and behind the goon the real Shorten.

  25. Philippa Martyr

    Ubique, a very neat summary. Thank you.

  26. Crossie

    So you’re ruling everyone out Crossie?

    No, I’m not. Abbott is ready and waiting and he couldn’t do worse than Mal.

  27. Senile Old Guy

    It’s too late, way too late. The 54 who dumped Abbott for Lord Waffle have killed the Liberal Party.

    Remember, Lord Waffle was saved at the last election by the Nationals winning a seat off Labor. Nothing will save the Liberals this time.

  28. Crossie

    Nothing will save the Liberals this time.

    Whitlamesque.

  29. Texas Jack

    Crossie; No, I’m not. Abbott is ready and waiting and he couldn’t do worse than Mal…

    Well he hasn’t challenged either unless I missed something? You can’t downplay Dutton on manliness grounds for not already having challenged. Abbott has done some agitating out in the borderlands where he has some popularity sure, bobody has had the strength of convictions to actually challenge.

    And we all hear you on Abbott Crossie, but Abbott couldn’t bring himself to grasp many bristling nettles once the boats had stopped and the carbon a mining taxes were repealed. He mis-timed and mis-queued almost everything he did past his first year and had the political nous of a gnat. He also drags along so much baggage these days he may be a stronger electoral asset in a senior role on a rejuvenated and rebalanced front bench. Defence Minister? Senior Party Statesman? Head-kicker in Chief? All of the above?

  30. Texas Jack

    Oops, for “bobody” read “but nobody”….

  31. H B Bear

    A good reminder that we’re not actually faced with a marionette for PM, regardless of how Leak portrayed him.

    Nothing john described is inconsistent with Peanut Head being a puppet. We’ve seen it all before.

  32. John Comnenus

    A Liberal led Government will be destroyed in a landslide if it stuffs the economy, leaves the public finances heavily in debt and doesn’t throw any bones to cultural conservatives.

    That looks exactly like the position Malcolm Turnbull is going to take to the next election.

    The ALP is on track to win its largest election win since WWII (currently held by Hawke who won 53.2% TPP in 1983). The ALP would be on track to win its largest election win ever (currently held by Curtin who won 58.2% TPP in 1943) if it had just about anyone other than Bill Shorten leading it.

    Let that sink in – the Libs might lose to a worse result than in the depth of national despair in 1943 when the Japanese were bombing Australia and fighting in PNG

    That’s how bad Turnbull’s leadership is.

  33. billie

    I expect Turnbull will hang on.

    We can watch him being completely demolished and humiliated so badly he’ll probably Australia. Go join his mates in NYC.

    Sure, we’ll be in a mess, but so what, it’s not like we’re not in a mess now, heading for a bigger mess and no sign of anyone or any party capable of changing anything.

    Years of destructive self obsessed politics by the media and political classes has delivered this to us.

    We’re screwed and I can’t see any way out of it as we spiral in.

    I wish the next generation all the best, as they obsess about which toilet the climate refugees will use, using braille since there will be no lights. The Socialist Australian Republic Collective – SARC.

  34. John64

    John Constantine @ 7:14am – Brilliant stuff.

    I’ve been telling everyone who will listen to me for ages that Bull Shitten is the most dangerous candidate for Prime Minister that this country has ever seen.

    A Shorten led ALP Federal Government will be like Victoriastan’s Dan Andrews Marxist CFMEU Caliphate on steroids.

    Funnily enough, the greatest threat to Bull Shitten lies from within. The ALP knows deep down he’s a preposterous candidate for PM; he was only supposed to be a seat warmer for Mrs Coutts-Trotter or Therapeutic Albo until the ALP thought it could win an election. Never in their wildest dreams could they have believed Lord Waffleworth would capitulate so early and so comprehensively.

    Don’t for one moment think that Plibersek and Albanese are ready to relinquish their Prime Ministerial ambitions.

  35. Cassie of Sydney

    The loss of Joe Francis is sad, sad for WA and sad for the Liberal party however he and others in the WA party bear responsibility for not getting rid of Barnett last year. They all wimped, like the Libs wimped in the final 2 years of the Howard government. It was pretty clear what was going to happen and yet the WA Libs had their heads stuck in the sand. I still think that the Libs would have lost in WA however this horrendous result may have been curtailed with the loss of fewer seats. The only good to come out of this is the Grylls result. On a federal level, the whole scenario is so very depressing. Shorten and Labor are very easy targets to punch at on so many levels, there is so much ammunition to throw at them, particularly Shorten, so the fact that they are leading shows just how bad Wafflehead is. However Abbott is not the answer either. I frankly do not trust him to be a leader, he wimped and capitulated when he was PM and he laid the groundwork for the current Turdbull. Abbott may be making the right noises now..so what, he made those noises when he was opposition leader.

  36. struth

    More sense from these comments on this one thread than we have seen out of any government of Australia since Costello left.
    Actually he had some stupid things to say too.
    Life for our pollies is way too easy.
    One thing I would sort of dispute is the “needed massive infrastructure upgrades” problem for Barnett.
    He didn’t just get GST to play with.
    The WA government made a lot more money out of the mining boom than they otherwise would have.
    Most of the infrastructure I saw going on for mining was often paid for by the mines, including the roads to and fro, much of the accommodation infrastructure in complete suburbs, including the actual housing.
    FIFO was caused by restrictions to people moving to the mining areas as they have done throughout history, due to government restriction on land release.
    A true liberal government would have allowed private investment to do it’s thing and got out of the road.
    Claiming a mining boom is a problem for a state government is a bit over the top.
    Only for governments with a socialist approach, is it a problem.

  37. Diogenes

    FIFO was caused by restrictions to people moving to the mining areas as they have done throughout history, due to government restriction on land release.

    Never forget the impact FBT had !

  38. teddy bear

    I would wager that Turnbull will cut and run before the next election, so I very much doubt we would ever get the satisfaction of watching him be crushed, so I would much prefer he be booted out then jumping out of the bus before it goes off the cliff..

  39. struth

    Also, the feds had a big effect on the WA election, as federal governments do, but probably more so with this one.
    Liberal voters vote for policy over party.
    Labor voters are tribal.
    Anyone talking about Abbott as a saviour has rocks in their heads.
    It doesn’t matter who is in charge of the liberals.
    A better shepherd does not make better sheep.

  40. Mike of Marion

    I’m certain that is one reason Bernardi jumped off – the Liberals are beyond redemption.

  41. struth

    I would wager that Turnbull will cut and run before the next election, so I very much doubt we would ever get the satisfaction of watching him be crushed, so I would much prefer he be booted out then jumping out of the bus before it goes off the cliff..

    I’ll take that bet.
    Turnbull lives in his own fantasy world.
    You and I and the rest of Australia are out there somewhere in the universe but not on his planet.
    He will be in his best suit, and unlike Hillary will relish the spotlight being on him for the concession speech.
    He will smile, and wish Bill Shorten well, letting him know that the liberals will work with labor as they have done, in glorious partisanship for the benefit of all muslims, er I mean, Australians.
    He will then seek his righteous spot on the U.N. where the world awaits his many talents of reconciling differences, a true peacemaker in our times, jet setting in between teeth whitening and botox sessions.

  42. Boambee John

    Tony Abbott was at his best as a headkicker for a strong PM.

    Perhaps a Dutton/Abbott team?

  43. Boambee John

    Although the thought of Abbott and Costello together again is good for a quiet chuckle.

  44. teddy bear

    struth he has 2 years of being publicly ridiculed before he can get to that, if it was only 6 months away you would almost certainly be right.

  45. Cannibal

    A better shepherd does not make better sheep.

    They do actually.
    Probably not in the political sense though as the shepherd needs to hang around for a few generations.

  46. Driftforge

    Tony Abbott was at his best as a headkicker for a strong PM.

    Perhaps a Dutton/Abbott team?

    That bit in the first line about ‘strong leader’. How does that square with Invisible Dutton?

  47. H B Bear

    Ridicule is the final stage ot the political death spiral. The Slapper spent longer there than most – it got to the stage where she couldn’t even do public events. Remember the school kid throwing the salami sandwich and the Western Suburbs camp-out where she had to be herded through the public bar to be feted by hand chosen mummy bloggers?

    Like Gillard Waffles will be protected right up to the point where he isn’t. We aren’t there yet but it isn’t far away.

  48. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    He will then seek his righteous spot on the U.N. where the world awaits his many talents of reconciling differences, a true peacemaker in our times, jet setting in between teeth whitening and botox sessions.

    First President of an Australian Republic, surely?

  49. Joe

    Peter Dutton? The man who referred to a female reporter as “a mad fucking witch” and then inadvertently sent the text message to the reporter in question.

    More of this. MUCH MORE. What’s needed now is a complete mongrel that won’t take anymore bullshit – in a polite way of course.

  50. OldOzzie

    Ray
    #2326646, posted on March 15, 2017 at 5:21 am
    So let us assume the Parliamentary Liberals did the right thing and dumped Turnbull, who would they choose to replace him? Let us look at the available talent, cabinet ministers who sit in the House of Representatives sine these are the most likely candidates

    Julie Bishop? Her performance as shadow Treasurer was so bad she only lasted five months in the role.

    George Brandis? Remember everyone has the right to be a bigot.

    Scott Morrison? The failed Treasurer.

    Kelly O’Dwyer? Minister for destroying the Liberal brand with its own base via the superannuation tax reforms.

    Christoper Pyne? The $50 billion submarine man.

    Greg Hunt? Who masterminded the current RET deal which will see the countries energy crisis worsen over coming years.

    Peter Dutton? The man who referred to a female reporter as “a mad fucking witch” and then inadvertently sent the text message to the reporter in question.

    Steve Ciobo? Who believes that the first home buyers scheme was so successful it should be doubled.

    Christian Porter? Need I go further than the fact that he will likely loose his seat at the next election given the swing in WA.

    Josh Frydenberg? Given that we are in the midst of a national energy crisis, does anyone actually know who the Minister for Energy is?

    Not the most awe inspiring bunch are they? Indeed, the available talent is so good that we could even contemplate a return of Tony Abbott, who is nothing short of a failed Prime Minister.

    It may not be too late for the Federal Liberal Party, but it is too late for Australia.

    Ray

    Watching Peta Credlin on 2 hours of Murray Live on Sky News last night, my vote would go for her to be Leader of The liberal Party and a Future PM.

    Incisive, Realistic in her evaluations on all topics.

    One savvy, very clued up Elegant Lady and I like her black book in which she was constantly scribbling (reminds me of my wife, who has a mental black book of everything I have done wrong in the last 52 Years)

  51. Diogenes

    Yes it is.

    Mrs D has coffee with a variable number of crones cronies every second day. Whilst politics is rarely openly discussed, she is is picking up massive discontent in the topics they do discuss and an undercurrent of a ‘pox on both their houses’. These ladies voted for Howard.

  52. Diogenes

    Watching Peta Credlin on 2 hours of Murray Live on Sky News last night, my vote would go for her to be Leader of The liberal Party and a Future PM.

    + infinity
    Added benefit – it would make leftie heads explode.

  53. egg_

    The former adviser to Tony Abbott is seen by many Liberals as the best MP to take over the demoralised party but he is four votes behind his Labor opponent

    Always back ‘self interest’ for a place.
    Locking the barn door after the horse has bolted.

  54. egg_

    Watching Peta Credlin on 2 hours of Murray Live on Sky News last night, my vote would go for her to be Leader of The liberal Party and a Future PM.

    Comedy hour?
    You can only blame so much ‘whiteanting’ by Termite on Abbott’s sh1te performance under her appeasement advice.

  55. egg_

    I would wager that Turnbull will cut and run before the next election, so I very much doubt we would ever get the satisfaction of watching him be crushed, so I would much prefer he be booted out then jumping out of the bus before it goes off the cliff..

    I’ll take that bet.
    Turnbull lives in his own fantasy world.

    +1

    KRudd is the model.

  56. DM OF WA

    As as a wise man once said: “It’s the economy, stupid.”

    Most of the Monday morning hindsight being demonstrated by so many pundits and commentators is laughable – nice work if you can get it.

    The Liberals never had a hope after the WA economy crashed and we lost our GST share. A lot of people are angry and insecure. They were desperate. It is that simple.

    You can argue about what might have been done to minimise the loss but this government was always going down.

    Colin Barnett’s fate is now to be made the scapegoat – very unfair but that is politics for you.

  57. John64

    The Liberals never had a hope after the WA economy crashed and we lost our GST share.

    I’m surprised this hasn’t really been picked up on.

    There isn’t one Sandgroper I have spoken to in the past 2 years (and I’m over there often enough) who doesn’t think WA is getting right royally shafted by the GST carve up. There’s nothing they hate more in the west than their money being siphoned off by the east. With the Libs in power federally and in WA, that’s a recipe to lose 10% of the 2PP vote right there.

    Add a Premier well past his use by date and a strong enough “it’s time” factor and it’s a minor miracle that the Libs look like hanging on to as many as 9 seats.

  58. Leo G

    I don’t want to wake up after some bloodbath of a similar kind in 2019 with some nitwit saying we should have dumped Malcolm back in 2017. The mystery really is why no one does.

    No mystery, really. Among parliamentary Liberals, nitwits have the numbers to make a phalanx, and self-preservation is their idee fixe. The role of the leader is to distract the attention of the rank and file away from the concealed nitwits. TA was doing the opposite. Malcolm is their man.

  59. FIFO was caused by restrictions to people moving to the mining areas as they have done throughout history, due to government restriction on land release.

    Don’t often disagree with your wisdom Struth, but you’re out of the ball-park on this one. FIFO exists because the Pilbara is not conducive to “the good life”. Most women (wives) simply won’t live there for an extended period. Few of the towns were ever going to be big enough to support a senior high school, let alone a university, so older kids had to board away in Perth. Ditto for hospitals. In most places anything more than an ingrown toenail, and it’s the Flying Doctor.

    Most towns in the Pilbara are shit holes, like Tom Price, Paraburdoo, and Newman. Port Hedland and Karratha compete for the title of anus of Australia. If the dust and the flies and the mosquitoes and the lack of amenities don’t send the wife and kids scuttling back to Perth, then the racial abuse soon will.

    Sir Charles Court’s wet dream of a North opened up and developed around scattered hubs of mining towns, was a (crack) pipe dream from the outset. It was never going to happen. And in a way it’s just as well that it didn’t, because automation will mean most of those places will largely be ghost towns within ten years or so. A bit like Gove is doomed to become, if the refinery stays closed.

    Right back in the beginning there was a popular alternative, that had some backing from the companies. That was to establish a Townsville style city on the mainland side of the bay at Exmouth, where families could live in relative civilisation, and workers could FIFO to most of the Pilbara in less than an hour. But it never had the government’s ear, so it didn’t happen. Pity.

  60. struth

    struth he has 2 years of being publicly ridiculed before he can get to that, if it was only 6 months away you would almost certainly be right.

    If you asked Malcom if he’d ever been ridiculed he’d honestly tell you no.
    In his own mind, he is loved by all.
    And those that don’t just haven’t got to know him well enough.
    You are dealing with complete delusion with Malcom.
    He’ll have to be booted.
    He won’t go voluntarily.
    Ever.
    What shall we bet on in this virtual world?

    First President of an Australian Republic, surely?

    That was only to help his career.
    Now that he is Prime Minister, what really is in it for him?
    Sure, a bit of notoriety regarding history, but that will be a lot of work, for minimal spotlight time gain.
    It’s all about Malcom here and now, and not a legacy.
    Or else he’d have policies.
    Something he wants to be remembered by.
    This guy wants fame and the high life, right now.
    He is addicted to it, a whore to it.
    Not being able to sing puts him out of the x factor, and politics pays better.

  61. mh

    Professor David Flint speaks with 2gb’s Luke Grant last night about 18C and the HRC, plus the problems with the GST.

    http://www.2gb.com/podcast/professor-david-flint-3/

  62. struth

    Right back in the beginning there was a popular alternative, that had some backing from the companies. That was to establish a Townsville style city on the mainland side of the bay at Exmouth, where families could live in relative civilisation, and workers could FIFO to most of the Pilbara in less than an hour. But it never had the government’s ear, so it didn’t happen. Pity.

    You prove my point with this last paragraph.

    Many wives and families would have opted for a life in a fast developing town and transformed it very quickly from the shit holes I agree they still are.
    Many a beautiful city in the deserts of Arizona.
    Hollywood was set up in a dry environment because of the light.
    Given freedom and government blessing, these areas would have been transformed very quickly.
    The wealth going to where the wealth was earned, and to who earned it.
    There are thousands of families that would have gone to follow the work, in the right circumstances.
    Memoryvault, we have only ever disagreed when I feel you are already defeated, as I am too, but I believe in my politics and what would follow from adopting the true freedom associated with it.
    It was never going to happen in Australia.
    I get that.
    It should have, and it could have.
    Government stopped it.

  63. mh

    Mark Textor, how is the ‘conservatives don’t matter’ strategy working out for Libs? Please keep us informed.

  64. mh

    I think the Liberals would have to look outside of the party for a leader. Mark Latham?

  65. EvilElvis

    FIFO is the only economically viable way to mine most deposits. Do you want a town servicing every 5-10 year lifespan mine? Ffs…

    And who was Colin going to be replaced with? If memory serves, a spill was in motion with frigging Dean Nalder creating the biggest noise and ruckus. They chose correct with the two options presented, why didn’t Joe or anyone else canvas a third candidate? Typical fucking slow moving, committee driven fuckwits.

  66. J.H.

    Well folks………Get use to your new soon to be Prime Minister. The Right Honorable Member for Maribyrnong. Mr Bill Shorten.

    Fuk you for that Malcolm, fuk you very much.

  67. JB of Sydney/Shanghai

    Memory Vault, my eldest and his family lived and worked in Paraburdoo for a few years, so I have some idea of the place, not all bad.
    However, what you say about the missed possibilities that might have been, is so very sad. Wish it was not so.

    Now he and his family live and work overseas, as do so many who were once part of the mining boom.

  68. struth

    FIFO is the only economically viable way to mine most deposits. Do you want a town servicing every 5-10 year lifespan mine? Ffs…

    That’s a bit dishonest.
    They aren’t all five to ten years and once established, other businesses can hold the town up very well.
    Some not so much.
    The question is, if it was very easy to set up a town in a central area to a few mines, and economically viable to do so it would have been done, but for government making it too costly it wasn’t.
    FIFO was , yes, the only economically viable way to mine , BECAUSE the government made the other alternatives unviable.
    The poms thought Australia was a harsh environment when they settled Australia.
    No one in England expected convict settlements to be the only settlements in Australia.
    They let enterprising and free individuals exploit that freedom.
    The truth is, for anyone who has had anything to do with the outback, that it is , as much as the cities , being controlled by socialist government departments from aboriginal councils and land rights, to greenies and anti development town planners.
    They will crush development where ever possible.
    So we don’t really know what would have been viable or not.
    I am saying that without those socialist constrictions, there would have been at least a few successful towns come out of it, creating the whole support network of jobs required as well.
    The fact that families would move there is evident in towns like Kununnurra.
    A fantastic example of what could happen.
    Now of course, it is being strangled by Australia’s socialist reality.
    It started before we were a socialist shit hole to any degree and was able to diversify and flourish.

  69. struth

    Time out.
    Off to work.

  70. Helen

    No, Peta Credlin is not the messiah that will save the Liberal Party. It was under her rule that Tone toned down, and in doing so, lost the plot. He became a choker when what was needed was a charger.

  71. DM of WA

    Ripper, thanks for your contribution: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lrruzi_8-I
    This is a perfect illustration why FIFO is the only practical solution.
    I suppose even FIFO will go away soon when the big mines automate.

  72. Muddy

    Yes, it is too late. Do you not have a sense of smell? The other senses may deceive, but the olfactory receptors do not. The decay is unmistakable. Died Labor is GONE. Deceased. Stop fondling the corpse and thinking of the ‘good old days’ or fantasising about resurrection. Use a nasal inhaler and get in touch with reality.

  73. Muddy

    DIET Labor that is. Grrr.

  74. Robber Baron

    Diogenes
    #2326866, posted on March 15, 2017 at 11:25 am
    Watching Peta Credlin on 2 hours of Murray Live on Sky News last night, my vote would go for her to be Leader of The liberal Party and a Future PM.

    + infinity
    Added benefit – it would make leftie heads explode.

    She shall now be known as Ivanka.

  75. Pedro the Ignorant

    Single blokes love the North West of WA.

    Huge wages, drinking, fishing, jet ski hooning, shooting, bush bashing on trail bikes, gambling, drinking . . . .

    Hang on, no shielas!

    See ya, off to Perth or the Eastern States.

    Average is about three years before hi-vis towns and camps get really old.

  76. Louis

    The WA election result will simply convince the Liberal party MPs and backroom players that they need to move even more to the left and that Malcom’s the best man for the job. These twits are convince that inner city progressives and academics will vote liberal if only the party does more of what they want.

    As I have said before even if the party gave these groups everything on their wish list they would still vote green/labor. Abbott didn’t get this and nor does Malcom. Bishop will simply sway whichever way gets her invited to all the most popular ‘events’.

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