Open Forum: March 18, 2017

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  1. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I claim this thread in the name of my mob, who came from County Tipperary, and followed the gold to Australia.

  2. JC

    We went out this evening and had corned beef at friends’ place. It’s really delicious. It’s possibly the only decent meal to come out of norther Europe.

  3. Fisky

    Lol!

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    North Korea is behaving very badly. They have been “playing” the United States for years. China has done little to help!

  4. JC

    Tell you what, the US really dodged a fucking bullet electing the Kenyan and avoiding McCain.

    Here’s McCain on the senate floor accusing Rand Paul of working for Putin because Paul wants to avoid Montenegro joining NATO.

    Artiste sometimes chides me for supporting the Kenyan in 08….. against Crazy McCain. Still think I made the better decision..

  5. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Principals at several Muslim schools in Sydney have rejected overtures to introduce a NSW government-backed deradicalisation program, raising further doubts about the effectiveness of the multi-million-dollar initiative.

    Revelations that Punchbowl Boys High School had resisted the School Communities Working Together program, along with fresh claims that students as young as 10 at Punchbowl Public School were showing signs of ­extremist ideology, have highlighted the importance of the program, which the state govern­ment has admitted is in need of review.

    Jan Ali, a University of Sydney terrorism expert and member of the Premier’s expert advisory council on countering violent extremism, said he knew of two principals in Sydney Islamic schools who were “totally against its introduction”.

    “The program assumes that there is a problem within the school, often without any empirical evidence,” Dr Ali said.

    “I don’t think that any ­research went into what principals or teachers think about this sort of program in schools and whether it’s worthwhile or not.

    “There is a perception in the Muslim community that this is a program that has been developed in the absence of co-operation or extensive consultation with the schools, particularly Muslim schools.

    The program was part of a $47 million counter-terrorism initiative unveiled by former premier Mike Baird in November 2015, largely in response the Parramatta terrorist attack in which police worker Curtis Cheng was shot and killed by a radicalised teenager.

    So far 19 schools have taken up the program, which provides resources and training for schools, teachers and parents to help them identify young people at risk of radicalisation and help them access support services.

    The Education Department has declined to identify the schools already involved, but a spokesman said a collaborative ­approach had been taken designing the program, with ­involvement from schools, government agencies, parent representative bodies, academics and community groups.

    From the Oz. TOO STUPID TO SURVIVE!

  6. Zyconoclast

    I’m calling BS on the North Korean threat.
    They might have some crappy weapons but they are no threat to the USA.

    They might do some damage to South Korea. This is bad because it will kill lots of Christians and girl K-Pop bands.

  7. Infidel Tiger

    The Kenyan is an honourable man compared to McCain.

    We should bomb the Vietnamese for giving him back.

  8. This is bad because it will kill lots of Christians and girl K-Pop bands.

    Endanger the K-Pop bands and North Korea will find out just how quickly Japan can change from a solely defensive military capacity, to all out war.

  9. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Five Don Dale juvenile detainees allegedly had a “sex romp” in a pool during a Christmas riot in 2011 after another detainee used a cigarette lighter to repeatedly set off fire alarms, triggering a series of evacuations that allowed three girls and two boys to sneak off.

    Royal commissioners Margaret White and Mick Gooda have also asked police to investigate threats allegedly made by the mother of former detainee Dylan Voller against a youth justice ­officer who gave evidence this week.

    Ms White, a former judge who jointly heads the Royal Commission into the Protection and Detention of Children in the Northern Territory, warned on Wednesday that anyone caught interfering with the inquiry’s ­process could face serious legal consequences.

    A document tendered to the commission yesterday reveals that on December 25-26, 2011, ­detainees successfully used the cigarette lighter trick to force fire services to attend Don Dale Juvenile Detention Centre in Darwin three times.

    “On each occasion, both the ­female and male detainees were unlocked and evacuated,” the document states.

    “On the third evacuation, some of the detainees rioted, throwing missiles and causing damage … some of the ­detainees proceeded to jump into the pool.”

    The morning-after pill had to be administered to the girls, and all five of those involved received tests for sexually transmitted ­infections.

    One of the female ­detainees was on a child protection order at the time. A male ­detainee, 17, was referred to police because the girls allegedly involved were then under 16.

    From the Oz. Dale Dye sounds like a real hell hole, doesn’t it..

  10. BorisG

    White House admits they lied.

    The US has agreed not to repeat claims the UK’s communications intelligence agency wiretapped Donald Trump during the presidential election campaign.

  11. twostix

    Boris you Cheka!

    Stalin didn’t lie about your uncles did he? Still animated by their Bolshevik spirits though aren’t you?

  12. twostix

    Principals at several Muslim schools in Sydney have rejected overtures to introduce a NSW government-backed deradicalisation program, raising further doubts about the effectiveness of the multi-million-dollar initiative.

    To their credit Muslims have more backbone when it comes to the government than every “christian” school in this country combined times ten thousand.

  13. OneWorldGovernment

    Infidel Tiger
    #2329733, posted on March 18, 2017 at 12:34 am

    The Kenyan is an honourable man compared to McCain.

    We should bomb the Vietnamese for giving him back.

    As I previously said.

    Lets bomb Arizona.

    Repeatedly.

  14. twostix

    Imagine the pressure on the muslim “principal” to obey the government at this time.

    Yet he refuses.

    On the other hand the government offer the government funded “christian” school principle a feather tickle instead of a BJ if he doesn’t comply…and he runs out of the office naked hysterically ordering everyone to know that they will comply with all and everything the Minister orders them to do to the christian children, the lesser alternative to a full BJ is simply too much to bear, Roman style persecution!!!111!!.

  15. twostix

    We toured a bunch of “christian” schools back when we were putting our oldest boys in school.

    They literally couldn’t wait to tell us that they completely and totally taught every bit of the state mandated curriculum and associated gayness.

    Seriously, it was the first thing they’d say: “we are an excited and loyal arm of the state!….but we have Trumpet lessons too”.

  16. OneWorldGovernment

    BorisG
    #2329761, posted on March 18, 2017 at 1:24 am

    White House admits they lied.

    The US has agreed not to repeat claims the UK’s communications intelligence agency wiretapped Donald Trump during the presidential election campaign.

    BorisG

    Give over.

    Kindly provide the link.

    And what, after months of MSM assertions of Russia/Trump connections Trump comes out and basically says there was intrusions but it was Obama.

    Oh No no no says the MSM.

  17. OneWorldGovernment

    Get fked BorisG

  18. OneWorldGovernment

    So what has THEIR PM, Mad Mal, not done today?

  19. OneWorldGovernment

    And whoopty do.

    It is proven that Trump paid $38million tax in one year on $153million income!

    What did Mad Mal pay in tax in his entire life?

  20. OneWorldGovernment

    What has truly stressed me is to find out, now, that Geoff Cousins was an adviser to PM Howard.

  21. BorisG

    You guys are supporting this circus.

  22. BorisG

    What has truly stressed me is to find out

    go have a beer.

  23. OneWorldGovernment

    No Ripper,

    I want the testimony of the folk that McCain screamed at after their office visit.

    poor folk that are now dead.

    Believe it or not but I have debriefed some men.

  24. OneWorldGovernment

    BorisG

    Kindly refer to real media.

    I have debriefed a lot of blokes.

    Best one was an English/Tasmanian bloke that said he worked for the North Vietnamese.

    How many Australians did you kill, I asked.

    I think it was 3 he said and gave me a description of a particular action.

    Never went to Vietnam myself but my 2 year older cousin did. His company commander put him and his blacker mate out front. They shot everything in front of them.

    Yeah. I’ll have a beer.

  25. OneWorldGovernment

    Hey BorisG

    You ever seen the movie “Dredd”?

    As they up front police can only respond to 6% of crimes!

    And fking John Howard took the guns away.

    Go figure and drink your water.

  26. OneWorldGovernment

    hey BorisG

    One more story.

    A bloke that was in Darwin when it was bombed used to hang in trees for days to kill Japanese.

    His mate used to work the ground with a knife.

    You think blokes like that didn’t train others?

  27. OneWorldGovernment

    how much tax has their PM, mad mal, ever paid?

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  29. King Koala

    Principals at several Muslim schools in Sydney have rejected overtures to introduce a NSW government-backed deradicalisation program

    There is only one muslim deradicalisation program that will work and that is to deport all muslims.

    No muslims in Australia = no radical muslims.

  30. stackja

    Sydney rat problem skyrockets along with complaints, fears for tourism
    ANNABEL HENNESSY, The Daily Telegraph
    March 18, 2017 12:00am
    Subscriber only
    SYDNEY is in the grip of a rat plague so big it is threatening to undermine the city’s reputation with overseas visitors.

    There are now more disease-ridden rats living in Sydney than people, and requests for exterminations have doubled in just a year.

    Top tourist destinations including Hyde Park and Circular Quay are overrun with rodents, and businesses right across the city are complaining of infestations of “rats the size of cats”.

    Data compiled for The Saturday Telegraph by trades website HiPages shows rat extermination jobs have more than doubled since last year.

    Complaints to the City of Sydney council have also jumped by about 75 per cent.

    Increased density across the city is believed to be fuelling the infestation and academics are investigating new ways to tackle the problem.

    Rats carry bacteria that can cause dangerous illnesses in humans, such as liver disease and salmonella.

    Independent City of Sydney councillor and chief executive of VEVO cafe Angela Vithoulkas said she had been swamped with complaints from other business owners about the rats.

    “There have always been rats in Sydney, but I’ve never seen it as bad as this,” she said. “It’s not good for business or tourism. Some of them are the size of cats and they can be very hard to control.”

    Ms Vithoulkas said she would like to see new rodent pest management strategies implemented for all buildings during the development application stage of construction.

  31. srr

    Hillel Neuer‏Verified account @HillelNeuer 6h6 hours ago

    Incredible 90-second video on what major media—
    @nytimes @ap @reuters—tried to hide in hyping
    bogus UN report accusing Israel of ‘apartheid.’

    https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/status/842737951788482560

  32. srr

    Paul Joseph Watson‏Verified account @PrisonPlanet 45m45 minutes ago
    More
    ‘You are the future of Europe’: Erdogan urges Turks in EU to have at least 5 kids

    https://www.rt.com/news/381166-erdogan-turks-five-children/
    ______________________________________________

    ‘You Are Europe’s Future’: Erdogan Tells Turks in Europe Have Five Kids, Not Three

    http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/03/17/europes-future-erdogan-tells-turks-europe-five-kids-not-three/

  33. srr

    ‘Immigration is a privilege, not a right,’ Trump tells Merkel in first meeting

    https://www.rt.com/usa/381175-trump-merkel-presser-live/

    Turkey could send 15k refugees a month to Europe to ‘blow its mind’ – interior minister

    https://www.rt.com/news/381125-turkey-europe-refugee-deal/

  34. King Koala

    Two men have throats slit in “trendy” area of Paris, attacker heard shouting “Allahu Akbar”.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/842709697518063618

  35. OneWorldGovernment

    King Koala
    #2329818, posted on March 18, 2017 at 7:33 am

    Two men have throats slit in “trendy” area of Paris, attacker heard shouting “Allahu Akbar”.

    Just another day in Gay Paree

  36. srr

    Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸‏ @JackPosobiec 2h2 hours ago

    Spot the difference

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/842806199095627776

  37. notafan

    The double murder in Paris wasn’t exactly in a ‘trendy area’ it was at 119 Montpeuil Ave , housing commish style highrise.

    Still islam is a good religion you can murder your father and your brother , just label them apostates and bobs your uncle

  38. min

    Joel Fitzgibbon urges Federal government take over energy policy from the states. Now I am confused as Labor Senator Kate last night on Lateline asserted tha the only reason the states did their own thing re energy policy was because there was no policy from the Feds. Can someone let me know who the bloody hell is in charge?

  39. OneWorldGovernment

    notafan
    #2329821, posted on March 18, 2017 at 7:42 am

    The double murder in Paris wasn’t exactly in a ‘trendy area’ it was at 119 Montpeuil Ave , housing commish style highrise.

    Still islam is a good religion you can murder your father and your brother , just label them apostates and bobs your uncle

    what can’t you do with islam?

  40. King Koala

    200 Subway Stores in The UK Stop Serving Ham and Bacon and Will Only Serve Halal Meats to Appease Muslim Invaders

    https://i.redd.it/90f8wkpz9yly.jpg

  41. johanna

    MicroSatan doubles down on coercing consumers:

    Windows 7 and 8.1 users with newer computer processors will no longer receive updates to their operating systems due to Microsoft’s support policy changes.

    As announced in early 2016, Microsoft has dropped updates for their previous operating systems on systems using newer processors going forward. PCs running windows 7 or 8.1 and equipped with 7th generation Intel processors and AMD’s Ryzen CPU will no longer receive the regular patches that keep Microsoft’s operating system secure and relatively stable.

    Microsoft has pledged to support Windows 7 until 2020 and Windows 8.1 until 2023, but these changes clearly illustrate the difference between the company’s and consumers’ definition of “support.”

    There must be a business opportunity here on behalf of the many consumers who don’t want to be driven to forced “upgrades.”

  42. notafan

    As for Erdogan.

    Doesn’t he now have troops deployed inside Syria fighting alongside ‘free syrian army’ against Assad.

    He creates more refugees by preventing the war in Syria from ending and another tool to use against the west, not to mention preventing millions already in Turkey from returning home.

    Vetting process , committed atrocities on behalf of isid, el whatever, of course you can go to America.

    And to think Turkey is part of Nato and was looking at EU membership.

    At least Europe dodged one bullet.

    No doubt if his referendum gets up millions more Turks will get itchy feet.

    Ottoman empire redux.

  43. notafan

    Then Brits should boycott Subway.

    These decisions are market driven.

  44. calli

    200 Subway Stores in The UK Stop Serving Ham and Bacon and Will Only Serve Halal Meats to Appease Muslim Invaders

    I wonder if the franchisees are Muslim.

  45. stackja

    min
    #2329822, posted on March 18, 2017 at 7:45 am
    Joel Fitzgibbon urges Federal government take over energy policy from the states. Now I am confused as Labor Senator Kate last night on Lateline asserted tha the only reason the states did their own thing re energy policy was because there was no policy from the Feds. Can someone let me know who the bloody hell is in charge?

    ALP is allowed to change their policies any way at any time.

  46. notafan

    That halal story is from 2014.

    Not surprisingly halalness goes with local demographics.

  47. calli

    I was in Turkey a few years ago. My guide was a secular Muslim, and explained that he didn’t go to the mosque or do the prayers and ate non-halal. It was just part of the culture and he wasn’t religious at all. He was worried about what was happening to his country, which to all intents and purposes looked like any other prosperous western nation.

    He pointed out some floating letterboxes and their owners and said – those Arabs are the problem. They are troublemakers and there’s no way of stopping them.

    Looks now like Turkey will be consumed from without and within.

  48. stackja

    Cardinal George Pell could turn key witness against Catholic Church
    Shannon Deery, Exclusive, Herald Sun
    March 17, 2017 8:00pm
    Subscriber only
    CARDINAL George Pell could turn key witness against the Catholic Church on behalf of sexual abuse victims.

    In an unprecedented move, the cardinal, the church’s third-most senior official, is expected to be summonsed to testify in a string of lawsuits against former Ballarat bishop Ronald Mulkearns.

    It is understood to be the first time such a senior Catholic official will be used by ­victims of abuse in their ­pursuit for damages against the church.

    Cardinal Pell is expected to be called in dozens of cases, with lawyers for four victims telling the Supreme Court this week they had concerns about using a video link from Rome.

  49. notafan

    Islam is a self destructing parasite.

  50. Tom

    If it hasn’t been nominated already, a liberty quote:

    Political correctness is a poison that attacks the sense of humour. For people with chronic PC, feeling offended is about as good as it gets.

    Bill Leak (6/3/17).

  51. pete m

    North Korea is a handy wedge for Trump against China. He would well know the actual danger they pose, but is using media reports blowing out their missile launching parties to hammer China.

    When you are taking on a big bear, it helps to use a swarm of mossies to distract it.

  52. Nick

    Listening to a SKY news UK report doing it all it can to inflame the ‘serious’ incident of Prince William dancing.

  53. notafan

    So someone is finally going after Mulkearns, about five years too late.

  54. rickw


    Principals at several Muslim schools in Sydney have rejected overtures to introduce a NSW government-backed deradicalisation program, raising further doubts about the effectiveness of the multi-million-dollar initiative.

    Radicalisation is a feature not a fault.

    Shut down the muslim schools.

    Close the mosques.

    Send the infection packing.

  55. Ms Vithoulkas said she would like to see new rodent pest management strategies implemented for all buildings during the development application stage of construction.

    There is a problem – rats.
    Her solution – pass a law that won’t do a bloody thing about the current problem, but will give an army of meddling bureaucrats more ways to get under the feet of the people trying to make a quid, along with the legislative power to fine them.
    Lawyers only see the solution to every problem as more laws.
    Idiots.
    Australia – never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

  56. stackja

    Rita Panahi: We’re in trouble; it’s time for a new approach
    Rita Panahi, Herald Sun
    March 16, 2017 8:45pm
    Subscriber only
    CRIME figures released on Thursday confirm what most Victorians know all too well; we are in the middle of a crime wave.

    No amount of obfuscation from Premier Daniel Andrews and Police Minister Lisa Neville can change the damning figures.

    In the past year there has been a steep rise in the number of violent offences, with murders up 16.4 per cent, attempted murders up 18.6 per cent, and dangerous and negligent acts endangering people up 22.3 per cent.

    Assaults and related offences are up 11.8 per cent, assault of police or emergency workers is up 10.8 per cent and sexual offences up 9.2 per cent.

    Aggravated burglary offences have soared by 40.6 per cent, car thefts are up by 27 per cent and robberies are up by 24.4 per cent.

    There have also been double-digit increases in arson, break and enters, thefts and breaches of orders.

    The overall crime rate across the state rose by 10.2 per cent in 2016 with 552,005 offences recorded.

    It’s little wonder that more than 90 per cent of respondents to the Herald Sun’sonline poll say they “feel less safe in Victoria”, while less than 2 per cent felt safer and 6 per cent voted “no difference”.

    Meanwhile, crime in NSW is falling, with our northern neighbour reducing its crime rate in 12 major categories, including murders, break and enters, shootings and robberies, to the lowest level in 20 years.

    NSW has the same societal concerns afflicting Victoria — drug use, poverty, mental health issues — and yet its crime rate is heading in the right direction.

    Victoria has become the lawless state.

  57. Empire GTHO Phase III

    It is understood to be the first time such a senior Catholic official will be used by ­victims of abuse in their pursuit for damages against the church.

    Cardinal Pell is expected to be called in dozens of cases, with lawyers for four victims telling the Supreme Court this week they had concerns about using a video link from Rome.

    The Holy See is a sovereign nation. Now imagine that Rex Tillerson (3rd most senior member of the US Executive) was called as a witness in a case related to his time at Chevron. Does anyone believe the plaintiff or prosecutor would insist he appear in person?

  58. Baldrick

    Melbournistan has made the news again, but for all the wrong reasons:

    Melbourne Press Club News Photo Quill Award goes to Jake Nowakowski from the Herald Sun, for ‘Moomba gang rampage’.

  59. incoherent rambler

    There are now more disease-ridden rats living in Sydney than …

    Hmm. GRN voters.Ignore them and they breed.

  60. OneWorldGovernment

    notafan
    #2329834, posted on March 18, 2017 at 8:08 am

    Islam is a self destructing parasite.

    so let’s stop them from coming.

  61. stackja

    Winston Smith EWLOB26051952M
    #2329841, posted on March 18, 2017 at 8:22 am

    Rats being disturbed by excavations. Treat the area with RATSAK first. Or history could be repeated.

    Bubonic plague Sydney: How a city survived the black death in 1900
    Gillian McNally, The Daily Telegraph
    September 3, 2015 10:21am
    IT BEGAN with a ferocious headache, nausea and dizziness on a hot afternoon on January 19, 1900.

    Delivery driver Arthur Payne, who worked for the Central Wharf Company, found himself desperately ill as he made his way through the crowded, unsealed streets of Sydney.

    Arriving home at 10 Ferry Lane, Millers Point, just before dark, the 30-year-old downed a dose of castor oil, vomited profusely, and passed out in bed.

    The next day, he was officially diagnosed with bubonic plague.

    Payne, who was quickly quarantined along with four family members, survived his brush with the black death but others were not so lucky

  62. calli

    Ms Vithoulkas said she would like to see new rodent pest management strategies implemented for all buildings during the development application stage of construction.

    I would be interested to know what form those “strategies” would take. Bigger bins?

    Rodents have a symbiotic relationship with humans. And the dirtier the humans, the more the rodents like it. Instead of burdening builders with more unachievable hurdles, they should concentrate on keeping the city clean.

  63. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #2329845, posted on March 18, 2017 at 8:29 am
    There are now more disease-ridden rats living in Sydney than …

    Hmm. GRN voters.Ignore them and they breed.

    Clover Moore!

  64. stackja

    calli
    #2329848, posted on March 18, 2017 at 8:31 am
    Ms Vithoulkas said she would like to see new rodent pest management strategies implemented for all buildings during the development application stage of construction.

    I would be interested to know what form those “strategies” would take. Bigger bins?

    Rodents have a symbiotic relationship with humans. And the dirtier the humans, the more the rodents like it. Instead of burdening builders with more unachievable hurdles, they should concentrate on keeping the city clean.

    Clover Moore!

  65. calli

    And having seen the unbelievable amounts of trash left behind at protests and the like, we know who the dirtiest humans on earth are. And how they vote.

  66. incoherent rambler

    Would Sydney’s rat problem have anything to do with all branches of government trying to reduce cat numbers (feral and domestic) ?

  67. stackja

    calli
    #2329851, posted on March 18, 2017 at 8:33 am
    And having seen the unbelievable amounts of trash left behind at protests and the like, we know who the dirtiest humans on earth are. And how they vote.

    Sally’s Law!

  68. john constantine

    The visible crime wave in yarragrad is their Apex Predators.

    The real crime wave that is destroying the country is the concealed, discreet and never mentioned in their media corruption of their crony socialist aristocracy.

    For every few cents their Apex Predators steal by lead and violence, their Grim Reaper crony socialists steal gold by brazen corruption.

  69. Notafan;

    And to think Turkey is part of Nato and was looking at EU membership.

    How many nukes has Turkey got possession of?

    According to unofficial reports, the United States stores approximately 50 B61 nuclear bombs at Incirlik Air Force Base in southern Turkey.

    Linkything

  70. Gab

    How long before PETA and the Animal Justice Party start protesting in the media about killing the rats in Sydney?

  71. srr

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    12 Oct 2011
    Selling unbelief: the atheist bus campaign comes to Canada, prompting support, and criticism.

    (Jordan Peterson comes in at 4:48, and that’s when the suckholing to PC BS stops! 🙂 )

    https://youtu.be/48V0m2lia5U?t=287

  72. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #2329852, posted on March 18, 2017 at 8:33 am
    Would Sydney’s rat problem have anything to do with all branches of government trying to reduce cat numbers (feral and domestic) ?

    Possible. But I believe the problem is rats being disturbed by all the excavations. Much of Sydney CBD is being redeveloped. Clover Moore is not helping.

  73. OneWorldGovernment

    john constantine
    #2329854, posted on March 18, 2017 at 8:35 am

    The visible crime wave in yarragrad is their Apex Predators.

    The real crime wave that is destroying the country is the concealed, discreet and never mentioned in their media corruption of their crony socialist aristocracy.

    For every few cents their Apex Predators steal by lead and violence, their Grim Reaper crony socialists steal gold by brazen corruption.

    moore clover!

  74. calli

    Gerry Harvey vows to match prices with Amazon when it launches in Australia

    GERRY Harvey has vowed that his company Harvey Norman will match Amazon on price when it launches in Australia later this year.

    And the feisty Australian electronics and homewares founder is also promising to ­attack the $500 billion internet shopping giant for a failure to pay enough tax.

    “They started 23 years ago, they are worth nearly $500 billion, they have virtually never paid any tax, they have virtually never made any profit,” Mr Harvey said.

    “Their whole aim in life …. is to send everyone broke. They will be ruthless and relentless.”

    My dead tree version says he “planned to hound the government” to expose the US company for transferring profit overseas in order to minimise the tax contribution to Australia.

    “I will fight them “to the death”.

    LOL. Out of one side of his mouth he accuses them of not making any profit, and on the other side accuses them of transferring profit to avoid tax.

    They must be in business for its philanthropic benefits just like Gerry Harvey.

  75. Bloody wireless mouse karked it.
    To continue –
    Now that Trump is in the big chair, will he get the blame for allowing Turkey to get its hands on these weapons?
    And what to do now that Turkish politicians are threatening Europe with a war of cultural extermination? (Using the UN definition of genocide.)

  76. stackja

    Patient Zero: Arthur Payne

    Delivery driver Arthur Payne, who worked for the Central Wharf Company, found himself desperately ill as he made his way through the crowded, unsealed streets of Sydney.

    According to a report at the time, Payne’s infection did not arise in his home at Miller’s Point but rather while he was following his vocation as a carter about the wharves:
    “Much interest is naturally taken, especially by the authorities, in the question of how Payne contracted the disease. From inquiries and an examination of the patient, the theory that he was inoculated by a flea, ridiculous as it might appear to the unthinking, is now generally accepted as correct
    “The humble but industrious insect alluded to is supposed to have contracted it in turn from rats which have deserted some ship lately arrived here, from foreign parts, most likely, it is thought, Mauritius.”

  77. Baldrick

    How long before PETA and the Animal Justice Party start protesting in the media about killing the rats in Sydney?

    Via PETA: Rat-proofing a building is the only sure way to deter rats. Killing them will only cause other rats to move into the newly available spaces.
    After rat-proofing the building, live-trap and remove any rats still inside. Be sure to check the traps hourly! The little animals will be hungry, thirsty, and frightened, and they may die if left in the traps too long. Traps should be disabled when not in use and during cold weather. Release rats within 100 yards of where they were caught.

  78. OneWorldGovernment

    Winston Smith et al,

    I’d be fking amazed if America did not have a “reset” button that an American President can press any time he likes to fix the nukes in Turkey.

    Talk about turkies.

    What no-one is mentioning are the number of US nukes in Germany that may or may not be pointing at Turkey and Iran.

    Just a button away.

  79. Mike of Marion

    Ripper
    #2329795, posted on March 18, 2017 at 3:18 am

    I’m surprised these videos still exist on YT

  80. Nick

    How much tax is Harvey’s company paying in the Asian countries it operates in ?

  81. Nick

    Balders, I thought that was a parody !

  82. calli

    Harvey is a ruthless operator.

    He’s met his match and doesn’t like it.

  83. cohenite

    stackja

    #2329842, posted on March 18, 2017 at 8:23 am

    Rita Panahi: We’re in trouble; it’s time for a new approach
    Rita Panahi, Herald Sun
    March 16, 2017 8:45pm
    Subscriber only

    Strange article; no mention of the miscreants.

  84. OWG;

    I’d be fking amazed if America did not have a “reset” button that an American President can press any time he likes to fix the nukes in Turkey.

    One would hope that the US removes all its troops, civilians, and weaponry from Incirlik Airbase before hitting “Reset”
    (Then lifting off the bit of tape that ‘reset’ is written on and discovering “Detonate” underneath.)
    Ooops!

  85. stackja

    Baldrick
    #2329865, posted on March 18, 2017 at 8:48 am
    How long before PETA and the Animal Justice Party start protesting in the media about killing the rats in Sydney?

    Via PETA: Rat-proofing a building is the only sure way to deter rats. Killing them will only cause other rats to move into the newly available spaces.
    After rat-proofing the building, live-trap and remove any rats still inside. Be sure to check the traps hourly! The little animals will be hungry, thirsty, and frightened, and they may die if left in the traps too long. Traps should be disabled when not in use and during cold weather. Release rats within 100 yards of where they were caught.

    Rat-bite fever (RBF) is an infectious disease that can be caused by two different bacteria.
    Streptobacillary RBF is caused by Streptobacillus moniliformis in North America while spirillary RBF or sodoku is caused by Spirillum minus and occurs mostly in Asia. People usually get the disease from infected rodents or consumption of contaminated food or water. When the latter occurs, the disease is often known as Haverhill fever. If not treated, RBF can be a serious or even fatal disease.

  86. stackja

    Winston Smith EWLOB26051952M
    #2329873, posted on March 18, 2017 at 8:58 am
    OWG;

    I’d be fking amazed if America did not have a “reset” button that an American President can press any time he likes to fix the nukes in Turkey.

    One would hope that the US removes all its troops, civilians, and weaponry from Incirlik Airbase before hitting “Reset”
    (Then lifting off the bit of tape that ‘reset’ is written on and discovering “Detonate” underneath.)
    Ooops!

    Thomas Jefferson, sent a naval squadron to fight the Barbary pirates, who were harassing American commerce in the Mediterranean.

  87. Old School Conservative

    The alleged “17 intelligence agencies” in the US certainly got all shook up with the news that a three-star admiral who is the director of Naval Intelligence, and one of his deputies who is also in Naval intelligence, are accused of fraud.
    Two Australian officers have been implicated and have left the RAN.
    So if the chief of intelligence in the US Navy can be sucked into a fraud by cash, prostitutes, and cigars. what hope does Trump have of having full confidence in his intelligence service?

  88. john constantine

    Their president hussein obama was hellbent on fundementally Dewesternising the world, why would he want America to be able to disarm social justice atomic weapons once they were held in nonwestern hands?.

  89. stackja

    cohenite
    #2329872, posted on March 18, 2017 at 8:58 am

    Violent young thugs run amok with little fear of authorities or the consequences, and the interests of victims and the wider community are continually dismissed by a justice system preoccupied with the rights of offenders.

    But under Andrews’ two-year reign crime has skyrocketed by more than 20 per cent in Victoria. Under his watch, aggravated burglaries have soared by 64 per cent and assaults by 31 per cent.

    Decisions such as repealing bail laws for young offenders and removing “move on” powers from the police are symbolic of a government soft on crime.

    Rita Panahi is a Herald Sun columnist

  90. feelthebern

    Catching up from overnight.
    1) McCain is the ultimate carpet bagger.
    2) Gerry Harvey is not a good guy.
    3) Why did the NSW government hold interviews for police commissioner at the Four Seasons in Sydney? Didn’t they have a spare office somewhere?
    They should have held Burns interview at the Lindt cafe.

  91. Makka

    What no-one is mentioning are the number of US nukes in Germany that may or may not be pointing at Turkey and Iran.

    The US is facing a real problem when it comes to Turkey’s move ever closer towards a shariah state. Turkey’s value stems from the cold war and it’s proximity to Russia (ex-USSR). Turkey became pretty much a vassal state of the US during that time and a vital member of NATO. The US had and still has seriously important hi-tech installations in Turkey that not only continue eaves-dropping ops on Russia but a jumping off point for Mid East ops. Turkey’s geo-political position in the energy infrastructure/pipeline environment also binds it to the US. Erdogan’s inflamatory behaviour is enabled by the knowledge that the US will not be abandoning it’s close long held alliances with Turkey any time soon.

    So talk of nukes pointed at Turkey I think are a little fanciful. The US needs Turkey inside the tent. This makes Turkey a dangerous prospect as its belligerence is in fact falling under the auspices of the US.

  92. stackja

    Old School Conservative
    #2329876, posted on March 18, 2017 at 9:06 am

    Clintons corrupted the system, Bushs and BO did change much.

  93. Baldrick

    Balders, I thought that was a parody !

    100% PETA approved.

  94. OneWorldGovernment

    Winston Smith et al

    I have no doubt that Incirlik Airbase is under constant observation.

    England has already stepped up by virtue of PM May’s visit.

    Japan has already stepped up by virtue of their PM’s visit, and the wives.

    Germany is going to talk this weekend.

    Israel and the Arabs are on board.

    Pressure is on China and its stick North Korea.

    Then it will focus directly on the jv team.

    Australia will still be arguing SSM.

  95. calli

    You forgot the rats Bern.

    Correction. They’re covered in points 1, 2 and 3.

  96. herodotus

    The Bible Society this year marks 200 years of continuous service, only to become a hate object of the left and the chattering idiots on social media for providing a fairly tame and proper exchange of views on gay marriage.
    An incidental note is the high rate of self-identification by indigenous people as Christians, something over 70%.
    Marking a divergence from the national broadcaster’s mostly “anything but Christian” agendum, Rachel Kohn’s The Spirit of Things this week covered the new Society publication featuring aboriginal art and belief, Our Mob, God’s Story, and had both an aboriginal preacher and a Bible Society representative, plus recorded messages from some of the artists featured.

    Rachel’s show isn’t always about Christianity – it covers a wide range – but even so, it has to be hidden away in non-prime spots on RN.

  97. Baldrick

    They started 23 years ago, they are worth nearly $500 billion, they have virtually never paid any tax, they have virtually never made any profit,” Mr Harvey said. “Their whole aim in life …. is to send everyone broke. They will be ruthless and relentless.”

    Says the man who persuaded Hockey to introduce a 10% GST on all overseas, on-line purchases from businesses earning over $70k, from 1 July this year.

  98. cohenite

    stackja

    #2329878, posted on March 18, 2017 at 9:09 am

    cohenite
    #2329872, posted on March 18, 2017 at 8:58 am

    Violent young thugs run amok with little fear of authorities or the consequences, and the interests of victims and the wider community are continually dismissed by a justice system preoccupied with the rights of offenders.

    I guess I meant the description Sudanese was missing. Don’t get me wrong; it’s an ok article putting the blame on weak arsed authorities but incompatible cultural values didn’t get a Guernsey and they are at least as important as the weak arsed authorities.

  99. calli

    Harvey is just the front man for a franchise racket. How he has so much influence escapes me.

  100. cohenite

    Very good article on the defects of climate science; climate science, as described by its advocates, is the only science which is perfect and beyond reproach apparently; this despite the fact NO aspect of climate science or prediction made by climate science has eventuated:

    The one field where the science must be “settled,” of course, is global warming. Or is it “climate change,” when clearly no skeptic doubts climate changes? Why the alteration in terminology? Perhaps because, in 2007, the world’s leading experts at the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reported its “central forecast” for long-term warming to be 3 degrees C. Yet, since then its reports have not listed a single central estimate but did reduce its minimal expected warming down from a 1.5-degrees rise to only a 1.0-degree temperature increase.

    The U.S.’s NASA-Goddard Institute did announce that 2016 was the “hottest year on record,” but while NASA had formerly warned against accepting “misleading” specific temperatures without considering the ranges of scores within the measurement margin of error, it did not repeat that warning in 2016. As the Wall Street Journal’s Holman Jenkins showed, after taking into account error margins, 2015 and 2016, two El Niño years, were actually tied for being the warmest years recorded, and 1998, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, and 2014 were all tied for second place, close behind.

    As climatologist Judith Curry testified to Congress, IPCC models have forecast surface temperatures to increase 0.2 degrees C each 21st century decade. But during the first fifteen years, actual temperatures only increased 0.05, four times lower than predicted. And the models cannot explain why more than 40 percent of the temperature increases since 1900 took place between 1910 and 1945, which produced a mere 10 percent of the carbon emissions.

  101. Indolent

    White House admits they lied

    Really? I don’t know about the UK Intelligence Service but how about this? In front of the world’s press with a prune faced Merkel looking on.

  102. OneWorldGovernment

    Old School Conservative
    #2329876, posted on March 18, 2017 at 9:06 am

    The alleged “17 intelligence agencies” in the US certainly got all shook up with the news that a three-star admiral who is the director of Naval Intelligence, and one of his deputies who is also in Naval intelligence, are accused of fraud.

    OSC

    That was some years ago.

    I’m surprised that it has another run now.

  103. Geriatric Mayfly

    Clover would probably dud the Piper out of his guilders, because he blocked the bicycle lane with his antics.

    98 Into the street the Piper stept,
    99 Smiling first a little smile,
    100 As if he knew what magic slept
    101 In his quiet pipe the while;
    102 Then, like a musical adept,
    103 To blow the pipe his lips he wrinkled,
    104 And green and blue his sharp eyes twinkled,
    105 Like a candle-flame where salt is sprinkled;
    106 And ere three shrill notes the pipe uttered,
    107 You heard as if an army muttered;
    108 And the muttering grew to a grumbling;
    109 And the grumbling grew to a mighty rumbling;
    110 And out of the houses the rats came tumbling.
    111 Great rats, small rats, lean rats, brawny rats,
    112 Brown rats, black rats, grey rats, tawny rats,
    113 Grave old plodders, gay young friskers,
    114 Fathers, mothers, uncles, cousins,
    115 Cocking tails and pricking whiskers,
    116 Families by tens and dozens,
    117 Brothers, sisters, husbands, wives —
    118 Followed the Piper for their lives.
    1

  104. OneWorldGovernment

    Indolent
    #2329894, posted on March 18, 2017 at 9:25 am

    White House admits they lied

    Really? I don’t know about the UK Intelligence Service but how about this? In front of the world’s press with a prune faced Merkel looking on.

    Indolent.

    That must be the greatest.

    MAGA.

    Trump is God.

  105. Entropy

    There must be a business opportunity here on behalf of the many consumers who don’t want to be driven to forced “upgrades.”

    That’s is unreasonable Johanna. Why should even microso$t be expected to maintain old operating systems forever? And more importantly, the number of computers with 7th gen processors, released only in the last six months, that are actually running win7 in the entire world would probably fit easily in the garage of a small home in Queenbeyan.

  106. Makka

    I’m running W7. I hate W10, it’s a pile of fkn junk and a nightmare to use.

  107. OneWorldGovernment

    Indolent,

    Thanks for that link – it goes to the full press speeches and q&a.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENJUNW6wHZw

    If Turkey thinks they have it over Germany and the EU then I will discuss SSM and abortion rights for women from now on.

  108. custard

    That piece of shit Marius Benson has just vilified the late Bill Leak on his weekly wrap piece.

    He claimed all Leaks backers had “jaws of the finest crystal”

    http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/newsradio/audio/201703/r1678254_25947414.mp3

    Around the 8.00 minute mark

  109. King Koala

    Turkey has a long term plan to seize the nukes, conquer neighbouring European countries and Erdogan intends to establish himself as the true caliph. The staged coup in Turkey was used by Erdogan to encircle the US military base. Meanwhile he has been sending soldiers to Europe as “refugees”, probably with Saudi backing

  110. King Koala

    Muslims operate long term. They go through periods of expansion and then consolidation. During the period of consoldiation (which currently has been going on four over 300 years) the rest of the world grows complacent to the threat of the kebab.

  111. Old School Conservative

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2329895, posted on March 18, 2017 at 9:26 am

    OSC

    That was some years ago.

    I see what you mean. The incidents occurred in 2008 through to 2014. The case has been going for four years.
    It’s in the news because 9 new indictments were laid this week.

  112. cohenite

    custard

    #2329911, posted on March 18, 2017 at 9:49 am

    That piece of shit Marius Benson has just vilified the late Bill Leak on his weekly wrap piece.

    He claimed all Leaks backers had “jaws of the finest crystal”

    He’s an ugly bastard, isn’t he.

  113. Makka, I’m running Win 7 x 2, and XP with another XP in a virtual mode.
    We don’t neeed your steeenking upgrades.

  114. Anthony

    Shannon Deery, the Herald Sun ‘journalist’ reporting that George Pell will be called to testify in damages cases against the late Bishop Mulkearney and the Catholic church, seems to be lacking a little courage. His article does not allow comments and his email address is inaccessible. And further, his ‘article’ seems completely devoid of any actual information other than the material forwarded by the unnamed ambulance chasers initiating the action. The object of the whole exercise seems to be to get Pell’s name in the paper. One has to question the ethics of the Herald Sun.
    Apropos to nothing much at all, back in the very early sixties, as a graduate of a catholic college, I expressed a desire to become a journalist at the Herald and Weekly Times. My catholic advisers steered me away from the idea, telling me that micks were not welcome in knuckle-presser organisations like the HWT.

  115. johanna

    Entropy
    #2329900, posted on March 18, 2017 at 9:33 am

    There must be a business opportunity here on behalf of the many consumers who don’t want to be driven to forced “upgrades.”

    That’s is unreasonable Johanna. Why should even microso$t be expected to maintain old operating systems forever? And more importantly, the number of computers with 7th gen processors, released only in the last six months, that are actually running win7 in the entire world would probably fit easily in the garage of a small home in Queenbeyan.

    You miss my point, Entropy. MicroSatan is effectively banning people from using the software they want on the hardware they choose.

    It’s like buying a car and being told that (a) you can only use dealer service and dealer supplied parts, and that (b) one day they will stop supplying those services and parts, but no-one else will be able to either. Anyone who hung up a shingle saying “We provide support for MS software no longer supported by them” would be slapped with a lawsuit before you could say Jack Robinson. Almost nobody could afford the legal bills, irrespective of the merits, and the case would drag on for years.

    To revert to the car analogy, it is like effectively banning any non-factory modifications or repairs forever, and withdrawing them at whim.

    It seems to me that a car is just as valid a piece of IP as a computer program, so how they are allowed to get away with this crap is a scandal.

  116. cohenite

    60 IQ is going to whitewash the Punchbowl High School incident on the back of the old bullshit distinction between good islam and extreme islam.

  117. Tel

    Peter Schiff has come up with a humorous plan to get death counted as a “pre-existing condition” under Obamacare… then families can buy a life insurance plan on their relatives who are already dead. This will be a huge wealth producer.

  118. Makka

    We don’t neeed your steeenking upgrades.

    Too right Winston. Old school rules. Upgrades are a PITA anyways.

  119. Hydra

    Liberty quote:

    “At what point does Daniel Andrews think that he just buys a business and what makes him think it’s for sale,” he asked.

  120. feelthebern

    Skimmed the Barnaby puff piece in the Oz today.
    The story about him eating prawns was pretty funny.

  121. Tel

    To revert to the car analogy, it is like effectively banning any non-factory modifications or repairs forever, and withdrawing them at whim.

    It was clearly explained in the original agreement, if you don’t agree then don’t use the product.

  122. Boambee John

    KK at 0733

    Clearly the result of mental health issues!

  123. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    QUT yesterday issued a statement that former administrative worker Cindy Prior, who worked in the Oodgeroo Unit at the Gardens Point campus, had abandoned her case under the Racial Discrimination Act against the university.

    Ms Prior, a Noongar woman from the Ballardong nation in Western Australia, had taken separate action under the act against the university and its staff along with her complaints of racial vilification against the students.

    From the Oz. Take notice that I hereby declare my secession from the Ballardong Nation – not that I’ve ever seen any evidence of any nation, anyway.

  124. johanna

    Tel, just because a company puts something in an “agreement” which you have no right to negotiate doesn’t make it legal. The banks have found this out to their cost regarding some of their boiler plate consumer “terms and conditions,” as have shops that put up a sign that says “no refunds.”

    Consumer electronics and software companies have been getting away with this blatant restraint of trade for a long time, because individuals or small companies can’t afford to fight them, and governments are too gutless.

  125. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Seems, from the same article, that the separate computer room is staying. As long as it’s properly designated “Nie Vir Europees Studente. Vir Slegs Swat Studente.”

  126. Myrddin Seren

    For those interested, a .pdf of a presentation made by Roger Pielke Jr – a warmist – about how he became a heretic to the Big CAGW industry.

    Shorter – dissent from received orthodoxy will not be tolerated.

  127. Tel

    So you think it’s perfectly reasonable for people to make an agreement and then vote for a government that will bypass the terms of what they agreed to.

    Is that a philosophical problem with the concept of people making agreements? Or is it some feeling that governments are intrinsically smarter when it comes to knowing what’s good for you?

  128. stackja

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2329933, posted on March 18, 2017 at 10:24 am

    What about the Ooga Chucka nation?

  129. notafan

    At the Paywallian

    Of course the reason Alinta would have been seeking ‘assistance’ would be because the current energy regime that both prioritizes and subsidises inefficient solar and wind made them economically nonviable.

    The same reason, iirc, Pelican Point refuses to turn the the gas back on.

    Jay Weatherill is both a fool and a charlatan.

    On his way to being the Chavez of South Venezuela.

    Business leaders have been left stunned after Jay Weatherill, during a debate a year out from the next state election, claimed that Alinta Energy had made no offer to keep the state’s last coal-fired power station open.

    This is despite The Australian in August revealing correspondence between Alinta Energy and state Treasurer Tom Koutsan­tonis, obtained under Freedom of Information laws, in which the government rejected a transition plan to keep the Northern power station in Port Augusta open until 2018. The plant permanently shut in May, with immediate price ­surges of ­almost 75 per cent and a wind-reliant grid that has led to a spate of blackouts.

    The government is continuing to deny access to 12 documents sought under FOI by the opposition, which are being reviewed by the ombudsman, and will not reveal how much financial assistance was sought by Alinta.


    Jay Weatherill’s ‘no offer by Alinta’ claim stuns business chiefs

  130. JC

    Tel

    Ignore her. Fatso reckons signed agreements should have no standing. It’s basically how one feels about it. She’s been watching too much of A Current Affair.

  131. A Lurker

    Here is a link to a petition that we should all sign.
    Repeal Section 18C – In Honour of Bill Leak

  132. Myrddin Seren

    Question for the technorati please ?

    Assuming you are talking to someone who is well over having to manage the nuts-and-bolts of IT, and just wants it to work simply and reliably so one can concentrate on the bloggosphere,

    any views on alternatives to Windows 10 – or is this it for the techno-peons ?

  133. Mike of Marion

    Polish Youth Orchestra ( Stanisław Moniuszko School of Music Orchestra) on 24 February 2017 tackling Andrew Lloyd Weber’s “Evita”

    Very good arrangement and a superb rendition of “Don’t cry for me Argentina” at 6m35s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owCHFNnny1U

    Enjoy

  134. stackja

    A Lurker
    #2329947, posted on March 18, 2017 at 10:45 am
    Here is a link to a petition that we should all sign.
    Repeal Section 18C – In Honour of Bill Leak

    I signed.

  135. Tel;

    So you think it’s perfectly reasonable for people to make an agreement and then vote for a government that will bypass the terms of what they agreed to.

    Is that a philosophical problem with the concept of people making agreements? Or is it some feeling that governments are intrinsically smarter when it comes to knowing what’s good for you?

    Something, something something, social licence, wink, wink, nudge.
    🙂

  136. JC

    Somehow I don’t reckon the meeting with the Merkelmiester went well.

  137. stackja

    Myrddin Seren
    #2329948, posted on March 18, 2017 at 10:46 am

    What is Linux and why is it so popular?

    Linux is easier to install and use than ever. If you tried installing and using it years ago, you may want to give a modern Linux distribution a second chance.

    We’re using Ubuntu 14.04 as an example here, but Linux Mint is very similar. Other Linux distributions have also improved, although they aren’t all quite as slick as this.

    I have not used Linux. A friend who does not like MS likes it.

  138. Infidel Tiger

    Johanna sounds like that ACTU shemale who reckons we can pick and choose laws.

  139. Baldrick

    Stupid.Fucking.Liberals

    The Federal Government will abolish the controversial Abbott-era arts fund Catalyst, after widespread criticism from the arts community.
    The fund stripped more than $100 million from the Australia Council over four years — approximately 15 per cent of its budget.
    Senator Fifield returned close to a third of the Australia Council’s funding in 2015 and has now announced the return of $80.2 million over the next four years.

  140. Aussieute

    $13m is the cost of a missing comma.
    The trend to think that punctuation and grammar matters little is put into perspective here.

    A class-action lawsuit about overtime pay for truck drivers hinged entirely on a debate that has bitterly divided friends, families and foes: The dreaded – or totally necessary – Oxford comma, perhaps the most polarising of punctuation marks.

    What ensued in the 1st US Circuit Court of Appeals, and in a 29-page court decision handed down on Monday, was an exercise in high-stakes grammar pedantry that could cost a dairy company in Portland, Maine, an estimated $US10 million ($13 million).

    In 2014, three truck drivers sued Oakhurst Dairy, seeking more than four years’ worth of overtime pay that they had been denied. Maine law requires workers to be paid 1.5 times their normal rate for each hour worked after 40 hours, but it carves out some exemptions.

    A quick punctuation lesson before we proceed: In a list of three or more items – like “beans, potatoes and rice”- some people would put a comma after potatoes, and some would leave it out. A lot of people feel very, very strongly about it.

    The debate over commas is often a pretty inconsequential one, but it was anything but for the truck drivers. Note the lack of Oxford comma – also known as the serial comma – in the following state law, which says overtime rules do not apply to:

    The canning, processing, preserving, freezing, drying, marketing, storing, packing for shipment or distribution of:

    (1) Agricultural produce;
    (2) Meat and fish products; and
    (3) Perishable foods.

    Does the law intend to exempt the distribution of the three categories that follow, or does it mean to exempt packing for the shipping or distribution of them?

    Delivery drivers distribute perishable foods, but they don’t pack the boxes themselves. Whether the drivers were subject to a law that had denied them thousands of dollars a year depended entirely on how the sentence was read.

    If there were a comma after “shipment,” it might have been clear that the law exempted the distribution of perishable foods. But the appeals court on Monday sided with the drivers, saying the absence of a comma produced enough uncertainty to rule in their favour. It reversed a lower court decision.

    In other words: Oxford comma defenders won this round.

    “That comma would have sunk our ship,” David Webbert, a lawyer who represented the drivers, said in an interview.

    The language in the law followed guidelines in the Maine Legislative Drafting Manual, which specifically instructs lawmakers to not use the Oxford comma. Don’t write “trailers, semitrailers, and pole trailers,” it says – instead, write “trailers, semitrailers and pole trailers.”

    The manual does clarify that caution should be taken if an item in the series is modified. Commas, it notes, “are the most misused and misunderstood punctuation marks in legal drafting and, perhaps, the English language.”

    “Use them thoughtfully and sparingly,” it cautions.

    Legal history is replete with cases in which a comma made all the difference, like a $US1 million dispute between Canadian companies in 2006 or a very costly insertion of a comma in an 1872 tariff law.

    Varying interpretations of a comma in the Second Amendment have figured in court decisions on gun laws, including a US District Court overturning a Washington gun ordinance in 2007. (The US Supreme Court later overturned the law in the case known as District of Columbia v. Heller.)

    Most American news organisations tend to leave the Oxford comma out while allowing for exceptions to avoid confusion, like in the sentence: “I’d like to thank my parents, Mother Teresa and the pope.”

    Reporters, editors and producers at The New York Times usually omit the comma, but Phil Corbett, who oversees language issues for the newsroom, wrote in a 2015 blog post that exceptions are sometimes made:

    “We do use the additional comma in cases where a sentence would be awkward or confusing without it: Choices for breakfast included oatmeal, muffins, and bacon and eggs.”

    The Associated Press, considered the authority for most American newsrooms, also generally comes out against the Oxford comma.

    But the comma is common in book and academic publishing. The Chicago Manual of Style uses it, as does Oxford University Press style. “The last comma can serve to resolve ambiguity,” it says.

    A 2014 survey of 1129 Americans by FiveThirtyEight and SurveyMonkey Audience found 57 per cent in favour of the comma and 43 per cent opposed.

    Webbert, who said working on the case recalled his boyhood grammar and Latin lessons, scoffed at the idea that he was representing all those in favour of the Oxford comma. He was only representing the truck drivers, he said.

    The drivers, who earned between $US46,800 and $US52,000 per year without overtime, worked an average of 12 extra hours a week, Webbert said. Though three drivers filed the class-action lawsuit in 2014, about 75 will share the money.

    Oakhurst, a longtime family business that was acquired by Dairy Farmers of America in 2014, employs about 200 people and has annual sales of $US110 million, selling dairy products throughout New England, according to its website. Its president, John H. Bennett, did not return calls on Wednesday and Thursday.

    Webbert declined to take a personal position on the broader debate of using the Oxford comma. But he sounded like a lot of English teachers and writing coaches who offered an alternative suggestion: If there’s any doubt, tear up what you wrote and start over.

    “In this situation, it did create an ambiguity, which means you have to either add a comma or rewrite the sentence,” he said.

  141. Tel

    Something, something something, social licence, wink, wink, nudge.

    Anytime the word “social” is used as an adjective, it means “socialist”.

  142. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Next time you find yourself in conversation with a Get Pell groupie, challenge them to justify the institutional shake down the man has been subject to:

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2016/02/29/monday-forum-february-29-2016/comment-page-6/#comment-1962735

  143. stackja

    feelthebern
    #2329958, posted on March 18, 2017 at 10:55 am
    If you see Scott Morrison today, give him a good shove.

    Canadians? Why don’t they become Australians?
    Meanwhile:

    Foreign buyers to pay extra 15% property tax in Vancouver to stop …
    http://www.independent.co.uk
    Aug 3, 2016 – Foreigners wishing to buy a property in Vancouver will pay an extra 15 per cent tax as Canadian authorities seek to control soaring house prices in the area. … It found foreign citizens who were not permanent residents had bought more than a billion dollars’ worth of property.

  144. Geriatric Mayfly

    Two from Pseuds Corner Private Eye.
    The cacio e pepe had a silkiness, a depth, a poetry that I have never encountered in a bowl of spaghetti before. Giles Coren Times magazine.
    The rock ‘n’ roll equivalent of the Dead Sea Scrolls. John Blake on Mick Jagger’s unpublished autobiography.

  145. If you tried installing and using it years ago, you may want to give a modern Linux distribution a second chance.

    Hasn’t changed much. Still full of technorubbish by the purists who don’t want Windows fingers besmirching their godgiven software.
    I tried Mint last year when we last had this discussion.
    Not intuitive or user friendly AT ALL.

  146. Makka

    In that pic with Merkel, Trump is probably pondering how can it be that all the gorgeous women in his life are the same gender as that prune face sitting opposite him.

  147. stackja

    Empire GTHO Phase III
    #2329964, posted on March 18, 2017 at 10:59 am

    RGR needed a distraction.
    Meanwhile Essendon? Hird?

  148. Makka

    That’s a bit harsh,

    From you? Give me a fkn break.

  149. JC

    LOl. Nice pointed, humorous but very serious comment.

  150. Entropy

    You miss my point, Entropy. MicroSatan is effectively banning people from using the software they want on the hardware they choose.

    1. 7th gen processors weren’t around win7 was introduced. MS won’t be wasting time making sure win7, used by less and less people every day, will operate on new processors. Making them do so would almost be like forcing retired typists to keep turning to work to maintain a MacBook Pro. Or like MS being forced to continue to support windows 3.1
    2. You are not banned or stopped from doing anything. They are no longer supporting win7. That means no more updates. You can still use win7 exactly as it is today on your old hardware for as long as you want to. You just won’t be getting any more updates, and over time, become more vulnerable to viral attack and eventually, updated, new versions of software may not work. Old versions of course, will continue to do so.
    3. Why have you made me, a Mac user, defend Microsoft? Is there no end to the perfidy?

  151. TheSemiMentalBloke

    Linux Mint is the easiest to use for the novice.
    Download the .iso file, burn to disc as an .iso and boot from it.
    It will temporarily install itself so you can try it and if you don’t like it, just reboot the computer without the disc.
    Won me over first time I used it. That was when they stopped support for XP.
    Just try it you won’t be disappointed

  152. Makka

    Why have you made me, a Mac user, defend Microsoft? Is there no end to the perfidy?

    My daughter is a snooty Mac user too. She revels in my MS tirades. They get them at school you know. Mac for life.

  153. candy

    I don’t think President Trump looked awkward. The press seemed to be a bit begging for his attention even, but he had something definitely on his mind he was pondering, but he was very polite to A. Merkel. They looked like that got on quite well actually.

  154. JC

    You just won’t be getting any more updates, and over time, become more vulnerable to viral attack….

    We should be so lucky.

    Of course, when that happens she’ll blame someone here (or their spouse) for hacking her 20 year old, second hand computer.

  155. Roger

    Recep Erdogan urges Turks in W. Europe to have 5 children and become the future of Europe while threatening to release 15000 immigrants per month to flood Europe with Muslims.

    And he’s one of the “moderates” we thought we could trust – although he finds that description offensive.

  156. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Stack

    That’s just one component. Then there is the media, the cops and the invisible networked backers of the leftist front groups. It’s one giant unholy clusterfuck of hostile forces coalescing, all because Pell is overtly opposed to the progressive narrative and defends the doctrine of his church, as he solemnly swore to do.

  157. JC

    Candy,

    He didn’t look awkward. He looked like… “get me the fuck out of here, I’ve had enough of this harridan”. It may have been a lapse, but protocol generally suggests a handshake. Maybe that occurred before or after the vid, but he doesn’t look calm being there. He’s also foot tapping.

  158. Entropy

    Tel
    #2329963, posted on March 18, 2017 at 10:58 am
    Something, something something, social licence, wink, wink, nudge.

    Anytime the word “social” is used as an adjective, it means “socialist”.

    I think that ‘socialist’ is a pretty safe bet when it comes to the person using ‘social’ in front of a word, but I find the context it is generally used in is to reverse or destroy the meaning of the word that follows it.

  159. JC

    Makka
    #2329974, posted on March 18, 2017 at 11:06 am

    That’s a bit harsh,

    From you? Give me a fkn break.

    Just be polite, makka. That’s all we’re asking of newbies.

  160. Roger

    60 IQ is going to whitewash the Punchbowl High School incident on the back of the old bullshit distinction between good islam and extreme islam.

    Meanwhile, several Muslim schools have rejected the introduction of the NSW govt’s deradicalisation program.

    What are the figures usually cited on Muslim views? 15% “moderate”, 15% “extremist”, 70% “in the middle”.

    Which way do you think it’s trending?

  161. Infidel Tiger

    You get stuck in a room a with a fugly socialist kraut and you’d be upset too.

  162. Entropy

    Makka
    #2329979, posted on March 18, 2017 at 11:11 am
    Why have you made me, a Mac user, defend Microsoft? Is there no end to the perfidy?

    My daughter is a snooty Mac user too. She revels in my MS tirades. They get them at school you know. Mac for life.

    It is well past time for me to replace my six year old iMac. However, Apple has not updated the iMac to the extent it is now two generations of processor behind (win7 would run on them no worries Johanna) and they cost an arm and a leg in comparison to wintel machines that use current parts. And their new MacBook pros cost not only an arm and a leg, but one of your balls as well.
    I think it is an evil executive plan to degrade the demand for the Mac in favour of the iPad. Which might make twisted sense in MBA world, but normal people just sadly and regretfully jump to the dark side and win10.

  163. Makka

    Just be polite, makka. That’s all we’re asking of newbies.

    You’ve been handed your arse too often to come across as the self appointed class prefect, jc. Besides, I’m renowned for my politeness.

  164. calli

    Winston Smith EWLOB26051952M

    #2329921, posted on March 18, 2017 at 10:04 am

    Makka, I’m running Win 7 x 2, and XP with another XP in a virtual mode.
    We don’t neeed your steeenking upgrades.

    Snort. I’m back at my computer. The one that went belly-up last week for no apparent reason. Black screen of death, no amount of re-booting would avail.

    Blow me down. I touched the mouse lovingly and in hope, before packing the whole lot away to go to computer hospital and the thing came to life!

    Better run. I can hear the black helicopters in the distance.

  165. stackja

    Empire GTHO Phase III
    #2329984, posted on March 18, 2017 at 11:16 am
    Stack

    That’s just one component. Then there is the media, the cops and the invisible networked backers of the leftist front groups. It’s one giant unholy clusterfuck of hostile forces coalescing, all because Pell is overtly opposed to the progressive narrative and defends the doctrine of his church, as he solemnly swore to do.

    Yes!
    And:

    Anthony
    #2329922, posted on March 18, 2017 at 10:06 am
    Apropos to nothing much at all, back in the very early sixties, as a graduate of a catholic college, I expressed a desire to become a journalist at the Herald and Weekly Times. My catholic advisers steered me away from the idea, telling me that micks were not welcome in knuckle-presser organisations like the HWT.

    And

    Sectarianism in Australia – Wikipedia
    Sectarianism in Australia is a historical legacy from the eighteenth, nineteenth and twentieth centuries, when Australia was a sectarian society divided between Catholics – predominantly but not exclusively of Irish background – on the one hand and Protestants of British heritage on the other

  166. Don’t listen to the semimentalbloke!
    It’s a trick to steal your brains.
    Stimpy was as sane as you or I before he went The Mint route, look at him now.

  167. stackja

    calli
    #2329994, posted on March 18, 2017 at 11:29 am

    Hibernation settings?

  168. Entropy

    You know, I actually support the right of Muslim schools to reject imposition by the state.

    If the Muslim schools were forced, you can just bet next thing some thing revolting like ‘safe schools’ will be forced on Christian schools (real ones I mean) with the justification it has happened before.

    The Problem isn’t what stupid and ultimately pathetic social program, inevitably doomed to failure, is or is not imposed on Muslim schools.

  169. Roger

    “Many Muslims, not just the militants but those throughout the mainstream or centre ground of their faith community’s social spectrum, chafe against the ­humiliation the world of Islam has experienced in modern times at the hand of non-Muslims, believe this situation must and will be reversed, and that determined action on the part of the faithful is necessary to bring about that ­divinely ordained historical restoration of Islamic dignity, autonomy and even ascendancy.

    The mainstream and the militants, including the violent implementers of militant ideas, share this outlook. The difference is simply, or largely, one of the means and measures and strategies that different kinds of Muslims are prepared to countenance in realising Islam’s divinely vouchsafed historical destiny.

    The implication is clear. Since the radicals and the mainstream share — if in different forms and style and emphasis — the same religiously grounded historical world view, the two orientations are basically complementary and congruent, not opposed. So there is no ground within the mainstream for calling back the deviant minority; no distinctive standpoint, authentic and authoritative, to which the radicals may be called to return by abandoning their own identifiable heresies. The moderates from the centrist mainstream stand bereft of the religiously based political and moral authority to make such calls persuasively, in ways that may prove enduringly convincing.”

    CLIVE KESSLER The Australian, May 30, 2015 [bolding mine]

    In short, we can’t depend on the so-called moderate mainstream that we imagine exists in the Australian Muslim community to effectively assist us in deradicalising the extreme 15%. We are now seeing empirical evidence of this. Meanwhile, useful idiots like John Howard don’t help by saying how wonderful Muslim immigration has been for the country.

  170. Empire GTHO Phase III

    You miss my point, Entropy. MicroSatan is effectively banning people from using the software they want on the hardware they choose.

    This is true many inventions of the industrial age where material obsolescence or lack of manufacturing scale renders critical components unavailable. The solution is remanufacture to original specs or substitution.

    Personal computing is no different. Clearly it isn’t profitable for MS to maintain support indefinitely for historic products or backward compatibility for all combinations of hardware and supported software.

    Fortunately you have options that will satisfy your need, albeit with the burden of having to migrate your data and acquire new user skills.

    Life wasn’t meant to be easy.

  171. Trump couldn’t even bring himself to glance in Merkel’s direction. Her body language was shifted towards him and she constantly attempted to engage him with a glance. As far as he was concerned it looked like he was sitting alone. Brutal.

  172. calli

    I think so, Stacks. I thought it was Permanent Hibernation. Like I do to some of my plants.

    I’m still going to send it off to the geeks. They can re-install my Creative Suite that Win10 murdered.

  173. Roger

    You know, I actually support the right of Muslim schools to reject imposition by the state.

    Yes, but it is not being imposed, Entropy – they are being asked to cooperate and are refusing. That is the point.

  174. Sparkx

    Agree with you Entropy about Mac pricing – way over the top. Windows 10 chugs along OK for me. The biggest problem I have is that the equipment manufacturers are not , or slow to, update their drivers for 10.

  175. calli

    Roger

    #2330003, posted on March 18, 2017 at 11:34 am

    You know, I actually support the right of Muslim schools to reject imposition by the state.

    I wish they’d reject our money with it.

  176. I run windows 8 and have disabled all upgrades thanks to help from some cats last year. Runs beautifully.

  177. rickw

    I’m running W7. I hate W10, it’s a pile of fkn junk and a nightmare to use.

    I think the whole problem with PC software is that they are flogging a dead horse. There hasn’t been a fundamental change since the introduction of the “windows” concept. Since then they went through a period of refinement and perfecting. We are now past that peak and are into a period of random rehashing in order to squeeze out some appearance of improvement, in car industry terms, taking the clutch pedal and randomly mounting it in different places and claiming some sort of breakthrough.

    The problem is that the customers are getting sick of the clutch being randomly deposited, the problems of finding its new location, and the decreased operating reliability that comes from a roof mounted clutch.

    The only field I see any sort of scope for ongoing improvement is in the field of CAD, in the main this relates to shortening and simplifying the path between design and output (printing, machining etc.)

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    If the Muslim schools were forced, you can just bet next thing some thing revolting like ‘safe schools’ will be forced on Christian schools (real ones I mean) with the justification it has happened before.

    In theory Safe Schools has to be rolled out to all schools.
    Including Muslim ones.
    That will be fun.
    What’s the bet the teachers will gravely nod their heads when they receive the syllabus documents then dump them into the nearest bin once Roz’s lot leave.
    No one on the Left would dare pursue the issue.

  179. Entropy

    Roger
    #2330003, posted on March 18, 2017 at 11:34 am
    You know, I actually support the right of Muslim schools to reject imposition by the state.

    Yes, but it is not being imposed, Entropy – they are being asked to cooperate and are refusing. That is the point.

    WEL, yes. It just seems some people here were heading in the direction of making them. I was hoping to head it off at the past.
    The point is this effete program would fail to solve The Problem anyway. It is just a social worker solution. ie won’t work.

  180. Entropy

    Should have edited that prior to posting.

  181. calli

    Christian and Muslim schools are required to deliver the Safe Schools curriculum.

    Which ones will be audited I wonder? It’s a puzzle.

  182. Roger

    The point is this effete program would fail to solve The Problem anyway. It is just a social worker solution. ie won’t work.

    That may be the case, but would they accept a deradicalisation program with balls?

    I doubt it, and there’s our problem.

  183. Stimpson J. Cat

    Congratulations Grigsie on your retirement.

    I know you will stay very busy, what with long walks by the lake, managing the Grey Nurse Haven, working as a taste tester for Jatz, and consulting with Garmin to design the best fitness tracker ever.
    I wish you all the best.
    Sincerely,

    Stimpson J Cat.

  184. calli

    Trump should have handed Merkel a German flag to see if she refused to touch it.

  185. stackja

    Donna Brazile finally admits she shared debate questions with Clinton campaign
    By EDDIE SCARRY (@ESCARRY) • 3/17/17 3:32 PM

    Veteran Democratic operative Donna Brazile finally admitted that she used her former position as a CNN commentator to relay questions ahead of debates to Hillary Clinton during the Democratic primary.

    For months, Brazile has avoided confirming that hacked emails from the campaign showed her forwarding the questions, which were asked at separate debates. But in a new essay for Time magazine looking back on the hackings, she said it was true.

  186. Stimpson J. Cat

    PS.

    I find at times like these the soundtrack to Westworld by Ramin Djawadi can be very relaxing.
    Give it a listen Grigsie!

  187. rickw

    The point is this effete program would fail to solve The Problem anyway. It is just a social worker solution. ie won’t work.

    Agree, if you want to stamp out muslim radicals then you need to stamp out islam. Even muslim countries have plenty of issues with radicals because the production of radicals is baked in to islam.

    There’s always some jackass claiming to be more like mohammed than the next guy, and when the role model is a murderous lunatic pedo, that’s going to cause problems.

  188. Boambee John

    Roger and Entropy

    There are two issues here, the actual Muslim schools, and the pseudo Muslim schools like Punchbowl Boys High and close to a score of others in the NSW state system

    If the government lacks the spine to sort out the pseudos, then there is no hope that they will do anything useful about the actuals.

  189. stackja

    calli
    #2330002, posted on March 18, 2017 at 11:34 am
    I think so, Stacks. I thought it was Permanent Hibernation. Like I do to some of my plants.

    I’m still going to send it off to the geeks. They can re-install my Creative Suite that Win10 murdered.

    Win10 not on this, my main computer. I put it on a spare computer. Keep forgetting I have it!

  190. stackja

    Donna Brazile finally admits she shared debate questions with Clinton campaign
    By EDDIE SCARRY (@ESCARRY) • 3/17/17 3:32 PM

    [via gab.ai]

  191. Imagine the pressure on the muslim “principal” to obey the government at this time keep his head attached to his body.

    I fixes it!!

  192. Roger

    Agree, if you want to stamp out muslim radicals then you need to stamp out islam.

    Well, we can’t say our idiot politicians weren’t warned, but of course they thought they knew better. Now we have significant and growing concentrations of Muslims in several large and small cities. They share a profoundly different worldview from the mainstream culture and will likely become more aggressive in their stance against that culture as their number and influence grows. Meanwhile we subsidise their lifestyle with our taxes and the tradition of freedom of religion gives them a protective cloak to advance their agenda among themselves and in the wider community. Things are going to haave to get a lot worse before any Australian politician (apart from PHON) is prepared to address the issue truthfully and propose real solutions.

  193. incoherent rambler

    and have disabled all upgrades

    Yep. If it works for you, why would you change it?

    Methinks this is why so many (especially corporates that I deal with) persist with Win 7. It works for them.

    Assuming that you do not indulge in unprotected computer (unsafe computer) with strangers, the Microsloth security update regime is largely BS.

  194. Infidel Tiger

    This will disappoint many here.

    Right wing bimbette Tomi Lahren is a pro-abortion lunatic:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/TheView/status/842781109498736640

  195. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpy was as sane as you or I before he went The Mint route, look at him now.

    Leave me out of your blatant racist PC Master Race lies.

  196. Joe

    Right wing bimbette Tomi Lahren is a pro-abortion lunatic:

    I am sorry, but I think you will find that deep down almost all women are pro-abortion. Ages of child-birth deaths have left a mark on their psyche.

  197. From the Bolta:

    A CONVICTED stalker has struck again, following a jogging off-duty policewoman to her home before trying to force his way in as she cowered inside.

    Why was a policewoman cowering in this situation? Why wasn’t she arresting his #Fake Australian ass after giving it a good kicking?

    We all know the answer.

  198. Stimpson J. Cat

    Right wing bimbette Tomi Lahren is a pro-abortion lunatic:

    I don’t watch Tomi for her opinion.
    I watch her for the way she expresses it.
    Also her hair reminds me of the way mine used to be.

  199. Roger

    A CONVICTED stalker has struck again, following a jogging off-duty policewoman to her home before trying to force his way in as she cowered inside.

    Hello: he blames his “Iranian culture” for his propensity to stalk and assault women.

    Over to you, Peter Dutton.

  200. Stimpson J. Cat

    The answer to this:

    cowered inside

    is this:

    policewoman

  201. Tomi Lauren – never heard of her – sounds pretty dumb if that clip is a fair representation.

  202. notafan

    I am sorry, but I think you will find that deep down almost all women are pro-abortion. Ages of child-birth deaths have left a mark on their psyche.

    Link?

  203. cuckoo

    Whatever happened to the latest ‘Millions of baby skeletons found buried under Irish orphanage/nunnery/whatever’ story, from a week or so ago? I saw a few bubbles of media methane pop on the surface of the swamp, decided it would turn out to be as bogus as every other one of these stories…and then nothing. It’s almost as if the reptiles just don’t have their hearts in their work anymore.

  204. notafan

    Hello: he blames his “Iranian culture” for his propensity to stalk and assault women.

    I wonder if the seven month sentence was to avoid deportation as iirc you have to be sentenced to 12 months to get a return to sender stamp

  205. Joe

    Link?

    Yes because something can only be true if it is enumerated in a link on the WWW. It’s my opinion. If that’s not good enough for you – then ignore it.

  206. calli

    Whatever happened to the latest ‘Millions of baby skeletons found buried under Irish orphanage/nunnery/whatever’ story, from a week or so ago?

    That was one of those “Look over there whilst I step on this rake” moments, cuckoo.

    😃

  207. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The court heard Ahmadpoor had lived in Australia for five years after fleeing his country and leaving his parents and sister behind.

    From the article at Bolta. Is that another example of his “Iranian culture?”

  208. notafan

    Lol

    No sense of humour either.

    Whether most women support abortion is a matter of fact, about their opinions.

  209. Delta A

    For Brendon O’Neill’s blistering attack on the perpetually offended in the weekend $Oz, google:

    Challenge of the plebs provokes an almighty tantrum

    BRENDAN O’NEILL

  210. Stimpson J. Cat

    Link?

    You don’t need a link.

    When was the last time a man carried out an abortion on himself?

    😆

  211. Stimpson J. Cat

    Abortion is, and always will be, women’s privilege.

    And you can have it ladies.

    It’s all yours.

    Because I don’t f☆cking want it.

    I happen to enjoy my defective existence quite a bit.

  212. Muddy

    A great analogy from RickW at 11:40 a.m.

  213. notafan

    So Stimpy

    Men never facilitate abortions and women always agree to them?

    Seems to be, in places like China, many abortions are forced against the mother’s wishes.

    I am sure, in history, we could find many more examples of abortion and infanticide, which go hand in hand, against the wishes of mothers, maybe even in the bible.

  214. Stimpson J. Cat

    Men never facilitate abortions and women always agree to them?

    You’re telling the story, you tell me.
    I’ve had my rant for the morning.
    😆

  215. notafan

    That explains it. Afternoon here.

  216. Diogenes

    NSWelsh Cats and Kittehs,
    You guys are whinging about the march of the left through the schools, here is a small way to push back…

    NESA ,formerly known as BOSTES and BOS, have new syllabuses for Science Technology (K-6), Technology (Mandatory) for years 7 & 8 and PDHPE Kindy-10 on the drawing board. The syllabus dictates what outcomes will be reported on as well the content we have to teach,

    Personally I encourage knowledgeable Cats and Kittehs to comment and respond to teh surveys
    Linky to the new syllabuses(sillybi?) and surveys ,
    http://educationstandards.nsw.edu.au/wps/portal/nesa/k-10/understanding-the-curriculum/curriculum-development/k-10

  217. Diogenes

    Yes I do know to punctuate , the batteries on my wireless keyboard are sending phantom keystrokes. new batteries fixed.

  218. Tailgunner

    john constantine
    #2329877, posted on March 18, 2017 at 9:08 am
    Their president hussein obama was hellbent on fundementally Dewesternising the world, why would he want America to be able to disarm social justice atomic weapons

    Ah,JohnC, is there anything that added social justice doesn’t make hilarious?!
    Social Justice atomic weapons!
    SJAWs! Lol
    😀

  219. Diogenes

    @#[email protected]#$%
    Need need to replace the new batteries, a whole section did not send because of the low batteries I give up..
    grabs raincoat to go to Coles

  220. Tailgunner

    Abortion is, and always will be, women’s privilege.

    The Cartoon Cat brings the truth.
    Respect.

  221. Geriatric Mayfly

    Diogenes. As long as what is proposed guarantees ‘Access to Success’ ‘Student Based Outcomes’ accommodates ‘Learning Difficulties’ (List them 1 to 100 here) then there is no reason the new syllabi should not hurry along the Education Revolution.

  222. Mater

    rickw
    #2330020, posted on March 18, 2017 at 11:48 am

    Agree, if you want to stamp out muslim radicals then you need to stamp out islam. Even muslim countries have plenty of issues with radicals because the production of radicals is baked in to islam.
    There’s always some jackass claiming to be more like mohammed than the next guy, and when the role model is a murderous lunatic pedo, that’s going to cause problems.

    Agreed.

    The real problem is that many of the ‘teachings’ devalue the lives of those who exist outside of their particular belief system (Infidel, etc). This allows Extremists to readily rationalise their actions, in much the same way a farmer might justify eradication of a pestilence on the farm.

    All nations, during wartime, have run similar propaganda campaigns with an aim to ‘dehumanise’ the enemy, making it easier for their soldiers to kill without hesitation and live with the associated psychological impacts. Most never classed it as a religion.

    Mater
    #2098464, posted on July 23, 2016 at 9:52 am

    Islam is the Operating System. Extremism is an App. You can remove Apps all day long, but tomorrow there will be ten more that do much the same thing. The fundamental problem is that the OS enables and supports these Apps.
    Want to stop the problem? Address the Operating System.

  223. My local cricket club just put the call out on facebook for someone to bring a bottle of milk down to the club, presumably for tea and coffee. I helpfully pointed out to them that this is not possible due to milk now being racist.

  224. Mark A

    Diogenes
    #2330076, posted on March 18, 2017 at 1:10 pm
    @#[email protected]#$%
    Need need to replace the new batteries, a whole section did not send because of the low batteries I give up..
    grabs raincoat to go to Coles

    Just a hint, try to shift your keyboard closer to the receiver that is plugged into the PC and check if it works better?
    Sometimes new batteries are duds, but maybe not?

    Had the same problem with my wireless mouse.

  225. Islam is following a cardinal rule of conquest – never over reach your ability to hold what you’ve taken.
    It works.
    Islam can never be subdued, or held off, or satisfied.
    Islam wants everything and it will do anything to get it – including its own destruction.
    It cannot be otherwise and still remain true to its teachings.
    Pity our leaders don’t understand this.

  226. stackja

    The problem with Mo-ism is Mo.
    Mo didn’t play by the rules.
    Mo-s today don’t need to play by any rules either.

  227. Yes because something can only be true if it is enumerated in a link on the WWW.

    Don’t sweat it Joe.
    You could write something totally innocuous like “as surely as the sun rises in the east”, and there are people here who would demand a link to a peer-reviewed publication confirming it.

  228. Old School Conservative

    Islam is the Operating System. Extremism is an App.

    Any moderate Muslims shouting out in rage against their extremists who issued a fatwa against Bill Leak?
    Has there been any public denunciation of the extremists who forced him to sell his home and move?
    Any police still following up on those threats?
    I certainly haven’t seen moderate islamists criticise the actions of the extreme wing of their religion. It’s just gone through to the keeper.
    Islam and the Koran is the problem.
    Many can remember Churchill’s description: Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.. The River Wars, 1899.

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