The age of intolerance

Recent events such as gay marriage activists forcing a grovelling apology from Coopers Brewers, or a number of Australian CEOs (including Heather Ridout who has never been a CEO of any company), or the attacks on Bjorn Lomborg or Ayaan Hirsi Ali show a growing intolerance of anyone who doesn’t toe the line of so-called ‘progressive’ thought. That we can no longer have civil debates without protesters howling down what they consider ‘heretical’ thinking is not only Orwellian but shows that western civilisation is sadly in decline.

No longer are we allowed to be proud of the achievements of our Greek/Roman/Judeo-Christian / Renaissance / Enlightenment / Industrial Revolution past (yes coal is ‘evil). Yet the technology we enjoy and the standards of living we enjoy are fruits of that illustrious past. Even those in non-western countries who hate the west quickly embrace our way of living, much as barbarians in the Roman era adopted practices such as baths and used our roads and aqueducts.

Once a society starts to doubt its foundation or doubt its fundamental rightness it is on the way out, as mine discovered in 476 AD when the Western Roman Empire was finally ushered out.

Kay Hymowitz has an excellent but disturbing article in today’s Australian about the outrageous and violent protests at universities, particularly in the United States. These are not protesters, these are animals.

How to reverse this slide? Perhaps it has something to do with the growth in second-rate mindless “disciplines” at universities and the enrollment of students incapable of sophisticated intellectual thought. There is little doubt that there are many students who should not attend university and a lot of so-called academics who have low IQ and resort to violence and chanting rather than rational argument to push a case. Jake Lynch is such a person. In a just world he would be classed as an unskilled labourer.

Students who engage in such chanting and violent demonstrations should be permanently denied a taxpayer-subsidised place at university. Their behaviour is proof they do not have the intellectual capacity for rational thinking and have no place at an institution of higher learning. While we’re at it, the government should remove all funding for second-rate disciplines that also have no place at universities. A university is where philosophy should be openly debated, where mathematics, physics, chemistry, history, economics and so forth get taught and discussed. Media studies and gender studies are examples of subjects that are derivative and can be safely shunted off to technical colleges or ignored.

To be a university student or university lecturer one should not only demonstrate high intellectual capacity, but a fundamental respect and openness to new ideas and learning; always challenging orthodoxy and listening as much as debating confronting ideas. For that is what a university should be and used to be. How can you challenge your prejudices and biases without actively listening and engaging with people who challenge those prejudices and biases?

If we allow our universities to further slide into bastions of orthodox and politically correct thinking we will surely hasten the west’s decline.

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83 Responses to The age of intolerance

  1. cohenite

    Could not agree more. My degrees and diplomas are now worthless because they have been devalued by lowered standards and PC emphasis.

    Basic subjects like engineering and medicine are now becoming similarly affected. The end of the road.

  2. meher baba

    I share your dislike of violent demonstrations, and think that what happened at Berkeley a month or so ago when Yiannopoulos tried to speak there was simply appalling.

    But isn’t your suggestion that students who chant at demonstrations should be chucked out of university a little extreme? Particularly in the name of protecting freedom of speech? You might want to refine your argument a little bit here.

    Also, while I think most of the instances you give of unjust attacks are spot on, I really don’t have much sympathy for Bjorn Lomborg, who seems to me to be not much more than a rent-seeker. If taxpayer money is going to be spent on trying somehow to disprove anthropomorphic climate change, it should be spent on scientific research, rather than on financing the globe-trotting lifestyle of a jumped-up journalist like Lomborg.

  3. John L

    There is little doubt that there are many students who should not attend university and a lot of so-called academics who have low IQ and resort to violence and chanting rather than rational argument to push a case.

    There is little doubt that there are many lecturers/professors who should not lecture/teach at a university and a lot of so-called academics who have low IQ and resort to violence and chanting rather than rational argument to push a case.
    There is little doubt that there are many teachers who should not have attended university and a lot of so-called academics who have low IQ and resort to violence and chanting rather than rational argument to push a case.

  4. Leo G

    You might want to refine your argument a little bit here.

    A group chanting OM is not quite as appalling as one chanting ” Death to …”

  5. duncanm

    Include schools in that last para.

    The politically correct dirge that the public system is doshing out to compliant students is alarming.

  6. RobK

    Meher,
    Lomborg is a warmists who does cost benefit analysis. He doesn’t question the science, merely argues for a rational response. The no-platform treatment issued to him by the UWA student guild and the capitulation of the UWA Administration is a standout example of the rot LCQ is speaking of.

  7. Philippa Martyr

    Preaching to the choir.

    But thank you anyway.

  8. Big_Nambas

    If we allow our universities to further slide into bastions of orthodox and politically correct thinking we will surely hasten the west’s decline.

    Too late! it’s all down hill from here.

  9. H B Bear

    Universities are basically child minding services. And they aren’t even very good at that apparently.

  10. Suburban Boy

    With respect, domine, the root cause is not pointless, second-rate courses but an intentional, ruthless and largely successful effort on the part of neo-Marxists to undermine and effectively destroy all the core institutions of the West (Gramsci’s infamous “long march through the institutions”). And while you tag the likes of Jake Lynch as “low IQ” I would instead tag him as a ruthless anti-Western activist (not that the two categories are mutually exclusive, but the activism is the pertinent characteristic).

    The only way this appalling situation can be corrected is unbending determination on the part of the politicians who fund most of the institutions (with our money, of course). No ideas should be banned, but funding must be completely ended for any teaching of postmodernism and other forms of anti-Western, neo-Marxist ideology. This would all but wipe out the social sciences and humanities as they are currently taught, which is the point. Those disciplines need to be rebuilt from the foundations up by our few remaining true scholars.

    Where to find politicians with such resolve? Aye, there’s the rub.

  11. struth

    You might want to include schools into your thought process.
    It all starts in our schools .
    They are indoctrinated by the radical Marxist left that a marched through the institution of education many years ago.
    Those kids are rooted before they even get to university.
    University is a “finishing off school” for complete radical anti western, white hating, Marxist shit.
    No less.
    Philippa Martyr +1

  12. stackja

    Tim Anderson (political economist)
    From Wikipedia,
    Anderson obtained a BA in economics from Murdoch University in 1983, a BA (Hons) from Macquarie University in 1986, and a PhD from Macquarie University in 1997. He was a lecturer at the University of Technology Sydney from 1994 to 1999 and has been a senior lecturer at the University of Sydney since 1998.

    Why Cuba is a democracy and the US is not
    By Tim Anderson – posted Thursday, 15 March 2007
    Tim Anderson
    Tim Anderson is a Senior Lecturer in Political Economy at the University of Sydney.

  13. lotocoti

    Sometimes I hope they get the progressive revolution they deserve.
    Where they’re not close enough to Brother Number One to avoid the re-education camps.
    Or too close to Brother Number One to avoid the unmarked grave.

  14. Entropy

    Meyer
    Also, while I think most of the instances you give of unjust attacks are spot on, I really don’t have much sympathy for Bjorn Lomborg, who seems to me to be not much more than a rent-seeker. If taxpayer money is going to be spent on trying somehow to disprove anthropomorphic climate change, it should be spent on scientific research, rather than on financing the globe-trotting lifestyle of a jumped-up journalist like Lomborg.

    You are completely misrepresenting what Lomborg does, there Meher

    RobK
    #2329893, posted on March 18, 2017 at 9:25 am
    Meher,
    Lomborg is a warmists who does cost benefit analysis. He doesn’t question the science, merely argues for a rational response. The no-platform treatment issued to him by the UWA student guild and the capitulation of the UWA Administration is a standout example of the rot LCQ is speaking of.

    Quite so. The only difference between Lomborg and say, Will Steffens, is that Lomborg actually goes to the effort to try and work out what difference any proposed solution would make, but also if it is worthwhile, particularly in comparison to trivial things like protecting little brown people from scourges like malaria. He has the temerity to work out what should be a priority in an endless list of big problems, whereas some people focus on the one that curing would maximise benefit to them.

    This approach of course, interferes with the plans of those seeking to centralise the levers of power via energy regulation, the potential riches for the ticket clippers, and let’s not forget, the assorted rent seekers of mendicant energy.

    Basically Lomborg’s sin is pointing out the obvious, that the cure is worse than the disease. And that there are in reality bigger problems than AGW. So he must be destroyed. And there are plenty of young, deluded and poorly trained thinkers at universities to act as the brown shirt puppets of the elite.

  15. Infidel Tiger

    If we allow our universities to further slide into bastions of orthodox and politically correct thinking we will surely hasten the west’s decline.

    If every university in the west was razed today we would enter a golden age of freedom tomorrow.

    They are worse than mosques.

  16. stackja

    Suburban Boy
    #2329907, posted on March 18, 2017 at 9:45 am

    Voters demanding change will be needed.

  17. Rabz

    Lomborg actually goes to the effort to try and work out what difference any proposed solution would make, but also if it is worthwhile, particularly in comparison to trivial things like protecting little brown people from scourges like malaria

    Anyone with a modicum of common sense would know that catastrophic human induced climate change is a crock and that any measures implemented to mitigate such a non problem will invariably be a massive, pointless waste of other peoples’ money.

    That’s why I have no time for Lomborg. He states the bleeding obvious in most cases and additionally, he is of the belief that humans are screwing the planet.

    As for universities, the entire education “system” in this country has been rooted. We have schools that can’t even teach their so called students how to read, write and count, but hey, they know all about catastrophic human induced climate change and that the only solution is more communism.

    These hugely ignorant, illiterate, innumerate ahistorical imbeciles then head off to university where they are even further infantilised. If there is a solution for the cessation of this idiocy I can’t see it being adopted any time soon. Total societal collapse may be the only driver.

    And Cohenite, I agree with you completely – my degree too, has been rendered worthless by this toxic stupidity that infests our society.

  18. Joe

    They are worse than mosques.

    Especially the non-discipline of economics. Apart from sociology, it has delivered the most egregious calamity upon the heads of the average person. Don’t forget Marxism is derived as an economic theory. How many were murdered on the alter of economics?

  19. NuThink

    stackja, from the linked to article,

    Cuba does not use state power to intervene in the affairs of others or to push international propaganda, but rather sends doctors to more than 60 countries to assist communities which have no medical services. This internationalism, recognised by the World Health Organization, contrasts with US interventionism.

    Funny how a major military intervention in Angola could be so easily forgotten. I suppose if politicians can forget that they have million dollar investment properties it is easy for academics to forget a war in Africa if it is an inconvenient truth.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_intervention_in_Angola

    By the end of 1975 the Cuban military in Angola numbered more than 25,000 troops.[3]

    Cuban military engagement in Angola ended in 1991, while the Angolan civil war continued until 2002.

  20. A Lurker

    Here is a link to a petition that we should all sign.

    Repeal Section 18C – In Honour of Bill Leak

  21. Old School Conservative

    “Useful idiots” include those teachers who imply that global warming is catastrophic and man made in all classroom instruction and exam questions.
    Not straight-out indoctrination by word or deed. Rather an insidious inculcation of flawed theory by adults who haven’t thought the issues through.

  22. C. Paul Barreira

    If we allow our universities to further slide into bastions of orthodox and politically correct thinking we will surely hasten the west’s decline.

    What do you mean ‘If’? The system, that is to say education at all three levels, primary, secondary and tertiary, is self-replicating. They prohibit questioning (Eric Voegelin); like the HRC. Alternative institutions not permitted.

    Game over.

  23. I’m going out on a limb here. I’ve maybe mentioned this in jest once or twice but I’m actually convinced of this after observing a number of near family young ones as well as events around the World.

    Those Uni students didn’t come out of a lab straight into Uni. They had more than a dozen years in primary and secondary schools before that. Foundations were laid long before Uni. Also, universities have been bastions of Marxism for over 50 years or 2 generations, why is this happening now?
    The problem is one of discipline and attitude in difficult times. Millennials lack discipline and do not know how to handle difficulty, not one bit.
    The reason is that “everybody gets a trophy” disaster practiced in all aspects of their lives from pre-school on. These kids have never had to strive for anything. They’ve never had to know their place.
    No smacking, no bullying, undeserving of endless accolades makes for spoiled little bastards and bitches. Learning that throwing a temper tantrum gets positive results adds to the dangerous mix which produces the young adults we see right across the Western World.

    How did we arrive at this point? We got rid of men from early education, we criminalized the disciplining of our own kids and stopped our kids from jostling with each other for their place in life. We drugged the boisterous ones and castrated the boys. None of them know their place in life, they’re just a mob.
    Anyway, I’m ranting but I think you get my drift. I must be a sexist bastard, too many women influencing our kids, not enough men.

    p.s. We are doing the same thing in our workplaces using those jackboots called HR. In essence HR are the same as Marxist professors.

  24. Aussieute

    The new reality ….
    I’ll defend your right to say and think what you like …. AS LONG AS YOU AGREE WITH ME

  25. Tel

    The reason is that “everybody gets a trophy” disaster practiced in all aspects of their lives from pre-school on. These kids have never had to strive for anything. They’ve never had to know their place.
    No smacking, no bullying, undeserving of endless accolades makes for spoiled little bastards and bitches. Learning that throwing a temper tantrum gets positive results adds to the dangerous mix which produces the young adults we see right across the Western World.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Emperor_Syndrome

    Our Western version is slightly different to the Asians, and we are about half a generation ahead of them in rough terms.

  26. Old School Conservative

    Baa “sexist bastard” Humbug:
    A spot on analysis.
    Would I be right in saying the HR “profession” is dominated by females?
    A profession requiring qualifications from Universities.
    What could go wrong?
    PS – many workers assume HR exists to help the worker. ha ha ha. HR exists to protect the business from political, legal and union attacks.

  27. Boambee John

    We are well on the way to Soviet style communism.

    We already have the Nomenklatura, though john constantine doesn’t use that name.

    All we need now are the Gulags and the Cheka (Victoria is developing the model for the latter).

  28. Atoms for Peace

    Wasn’t there a move to restrict HECS to useful courses ?

  29. Old School Conservative

    Tel, you have reminded me of this:
    In All Must Have Prizes, published in 1996, Melanie Phillips offered a critique of the British education system, saying that an egalitarian and non-competitive ethos (progressivism; multicultural education) had led to a catastrophic fall in standards. She criticised John Dewey’s “disastrous influence”.

  30. Roger

    Recent events such as gay marriage activists forcing a grovelling apology from Coopers Brewers

    Just to be clear, activists didn’t force that apology from Coopers, the latter cravenly offered it, along with a vow to join the Australian Marriage Equality organisation.

  31. iampeter

    growing intolerance of anyone who doesn’t toe the line of so-called ‘progressive’ thought

    This isn’t just restricted to those opposing “progressive” thought. The same can be said of left-wing conservatives.

    Just try telling them that they are wrong on “immigration”, “same sex marriage” and “protectionist economics” and they lose their minds just like any leftie.

    How to reverse this slide? Perhaps it has something to do with the growth in second-rate mindless “disciplines” at universities and the enrollment of students incapable of sophisticated intellectual thought.

    Exactly right – people carry on like this when they have no logical arguments they can make and know on some level that they are probably wrong but are terrified to be proven wrong.

    The solution is the same as the solution to ALL our problems: privatize all education – education is not a function of legitimate government in any shape or form.

  32. Joe

    …growing intolerance of anyone …

    Excellent. I’m liking this a lot. We should have a lot more intolerance of idiot leftists.

    When they squeal, tell them they brought it on themselves via their lack of tolerance.

  33. Frank

    No longer are we allowed to be proud of the achievements of our…

    I believe I am allowed to be proud of, or for that matter think whatever the fuck I want. It only works if you take them seriously on a personal level. Institutionally however is a different matter, poverty and ostracism for impure thinking sucks balls.

  34. Rabz

    Rather an insidious inculcation of flawed theory

    OSC, please – catastrophic AGW is not a theory, it is an utterly discredited hypothesis.

  35. Whalehunt Fun

    Very simple solution. Get tax money completely out of education. If leftwing cretins want to spend their money on worthless trash courses then fine. Before the vile filth Whitlam arrived, the commonwealth supported high achievers to enter tertiary ed but so too did business. There is no place for government in education, tertiary, trade, secondary, primRy or preschool. If you cannot afford to educate your children the buy a contraceptive and stop stealing from me.

  36. Joe

    OSC, please – catastrophic AGW is not a theory, it is an utterly discredited hypothesis.

    I apologise for mangling Niels Bohr;
    AGW of any form is not evena hypothesis.

    If you think it is – how do you test it for veracity?

  37. Rabz

    how do you test it for veracity

    Computer models – their claim, not mine. In addition, despite the increasing levels of CO2 apparently being released into the atmosphere over the last few decades (a minuscule proportion of which are due to human activity), global temparatures have steadfastly refused to increase.

    To clarify, I think catastrophic AGW is anti-scientific fact and evidence free horse manure and have thought that from the first time I ever had the misfortune to hear about it (back in 1989).

  38. Dr Jordan Peterson is like a modern Santiago Matamoros, battling the uber Left inside the belly of the beast. I wear the Cross of St James as an ornament of courage in these trying times. If you don’t know who he is, you are missing out.
    Here he is a few hours ago at McMaster University in Canada. Trudeau would think this is fine. Poor Canadians.
    https://scontent.fbne3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t42.9040-29/10000000_1222628424522284_4617684889444024320_n.mp4?efg=eyJ2ZW5jb2RlX3RhZyI6InNkIn0%3D&oh=398eb944e42ca6c95c7e37c40e808d45&oe=58CCA6C7

  39. Pete of Perth

    The march continues… next week we celebrate harmony day at work… to remind us that we deserve re-education because white people are such racists wife beating bastards…

  40. Muddy

    I’ve posted this previously, but perhaps it seemed a bit too weird for most to follow, however I truly believe that our ideological enemies see the human world as encompassing several ‘levels’ (for want of a better descriptor) or being: they see themselves as the top level, the superhuman, the pinnacle of human development. Their sheep followers (the media, for example) and those who just go along with it, not because they truly believe, but to avoid becoming targets themselves, are the mid-level ‘human.’ Active opponents are viewed as ‘subhuman’ and thus unworthy of receiving the usual courtesies that one would deliver to one similar to themselves. Subhumans are a whole other category for whom higher levels have no responsibility; they are the previous centuries’ outlaws to whom no protection applies. A superhuman or human, for example, are not obliged by their social norms to tolerate a subhuman. It’s open season on subs, who are held up as a danger to those of a higher level. Vermin to be exterminated.

    Yes, I realise that reads like some out-there conspiracy theory (and also has historical references which I don’t intend to highlight), but I don’t think these components are defined in detail and set out in some manual or guidebook. Think about it… what else makes sense?

  41. Some History

    Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt, “The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America” (1999)
    (free download):
    http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com

  42. Denise

    Leo G at 9:20 am
    The two are not mutually exclusive

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2O5v7oyG73c

  43. Entropy

    PS – many workers assume HR exists to help the worker. ha ha ha. HR exists to protect the business from political, legal and union attacks.

    The attacks that are enabled by the legislative and procedural edifice erected by the HR types. After all, if the organisation doesn’t follow the procedures written and established By the HR weenies, the business is liable. If the procedures make it impossible to do the job, that doesn’t matter, because doing the entity’s job is not the job of HR, which is to do HR.

    The only evidence of a perpetual motion machine I have ever found is the HR department. It is the only part of my organisation that grows, like mould, with the clipboard checklists endlessly proliferating, all with a value impeding leech from corporate services attached. I despise them. Anyone wanting to go to uni to do a HR course should be sent to South Australia for the term of their natural life.

  44. EB

    The coopers thing is kind of funny because a couple of years ago they had the anti-halal types after them. Which goes to show you can’t win, there’s always some group ready to go you if you aren’t doing exactly as they expect. Now the gays are on the war path.

    It shows all this engagement shit on social media is still beyond the comprehension of most of the people peddling it. One wrong step and it’s quickly spiraling out of control.

  45. Zyconoclast

    None of the violent and intolerant behaviour is new.

    Any Rand had many essays/articles disussing similar behaviour at US campuses in the late ’60s early ’70s.
    She called it the new left.

    I suspect the biggest differences are that the numbers st university are much greater now, so the number of low IQ people also involved goes up. Communication technology now allows easier coordination and instaneous dissemination of the actual events.

  46. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Universities, in this country at least, are dependent on state funding. That makes universities vassals of the state and the employees servants of the statist agenda. Tinkering with the institutions won’t solve the problem. A policy of picking winners for $ is an invitation to a perpetual war with the campus progressive left – beneficiaries of the redistributed loot from progressive taxation, notwithstanding the generational wealth redistribution the students will be subject to as their teachers retire.

    Sever the cash cord and impose market discipline. A university cannot be independent if it be dependent on state funding.

    You don’t treat a shark bite with a band-aid.

  47. Botswana O'Hooligan

    Baa Humbug just about hits all the right notes and from many years of experience, first with our own, and then with grandkids, some of whom are finishing Uni with degrees in bullshit I have not heard of I have come to the conclusion that it was right and proper to use Dr. Spocks book on child psychology on a backside (applied psychology I called it) after a couple of warnings, it was right and proper to ensure the kids had a balance of sport, study, and discussion on anything and everything at meal times, and it came as no surprise that all four kids went to Uni and did degrees in medicine, law, science, etc. Of that four two rear their kids as they were reared and their kids also do well at school, are doing well at Uni and in other pursuits. The other two allowed their kids to run their own race, never disciplined them, never insisted that they be civilised, and guess which kids didn’t qualify for a slot in medicine or dentistry or science and are completing bullshit degrees in disciplines I have never heard of? That’s where it all starts, at the parents knee.

  48. Ray

    Even those in non-western countries who hate the west quickly embrace our way of living, much as barbarians in the Roman era adopted practices such as baths and used our roads and aqueducts.

    You need to learn your own history. The Barbarians did not always invade because they hated Roman society. On the contrary, Aleric I, who led the Visigoth sacking of Rome in 410 did so because he was not promoted to general in the Roman Army, even after having led a Roman force which saved the Eastern Roman Empire from the Vandals. The point is that Aleric wanted to be a Roman and sacking Rome was the means by which he chose to be recognized as their equal.

  49. Ray

    Once a society starts to doubt its foundation or doubt its fundamental rightness it is on the way out, as mine discovered in 476 AD when the Western Roman Empire was finally ushered out.

    While we are on the topic of history, yes 476 is recognized as the date of the end of the Roman Empire, however, this is not because the empire was ushered out. It ended because the last ruler decided to give himself the title of King rather emperor and moved the capital out of Rome to Ravenna. His power was by no means less than that of his predecessor, Romulus Augustus.

    The important point here is that 476 is a fairly arbitrary date and marks the change of title of the ruler rather than any major change in the power and status of that ruler.

  50. RobK

    Ray,
    Thanks for the historical points. It’s a field I find fascinating but rarely find the time to indulge.

  51. PB

    “I suspect the biggest differences are that the numbers st university are much greater now, so the number of low IQ people also involved goes up.”

    Dare one point out the correlation inherent in the statement above and the rise and rise of Affirmative Action college and university admission.

  52. PB

    “Voters demanding change will be needed”

    Politicians with suitable intelligence who are prepared to act on that demand are needed more.

  53. Jannie

    The Left owns the Universities, like they own the Unions, the ABC and the entire State apparatus. Soon we will have Shorten for three years, and it will get plenty worse as they sense permanent control of the government. If you thought Whitlam, Rudd or Gillard was bad, then hold tight.

  54. Helen

    From the Speccie, a piece by Daisy Cousens

    Bill gives his take on the backlash from the lefterati on his family responsibility cartoon.

    “I can, Daisy,” he began. He did not shy away. This experience was such that it shrouded his every moment. “Have you ever heard of a Freudian theory called ‘negation’?”

    I said I hadn’t. He continued. “Freud uses the example of a mother who does not really love her child. Her outward behaviour would be to shower the child with love, praise, presents, and endless affection. But it’s all a lie; an act to cover up what her total disconnect with her child. She is compensating, masking her indifference as best she can, not just from other people, but herself.”

    “So you mean,” I continued as his voice trailed off, “that those who were outraged, who became histrionic, who damned you to hell and back, actually knew you were telling the truth?”

    “Yes,” he nodded slowly. “Not only that, they were aware of their own bigotry. And it scared them. So, as those sorts of people inevitably do, they lashed out. And I copped the full weight of their hatefulness.”

  55. Helen

    Daisy’s reaction to this.

    I was stunned. This was my theory of the noisy, hypocritical, regressive left; that their emphatic insistence on tolerance, empathy, and diversity was all a sham. That actually, given their blind intolerance of anyone with a different opinion, all the very worst bigots, homophobes, racists, misogynists, and every other label they had so unjustly ascribed to Bill, were on the left.

  56. Helen

    Here is JP Tulkinghorne talking about a piece done by New Matilda which is so breathtakingly acrid it could only have come from the carcass of a rotting dog.

    I am not going to talk about the piece, but want to quote something she said in relation to being a conservative at University in Australia.

    Anyway, I digress. The point is when you’re a conservative who has been through three years of a humanities degree in an Australian university; you don’t need no trigger warning. If you were a snowflake going into that progressive hotbed you would have melted before handing in your first Cultural Studies 101 assignment.

    There was no approving tut-tuts when I pushed back on the hard Left framework. There were comments on my (albeit second rate) essays about keeping my faith out of it. There was scorning rejection of anything like marriage as it was a licence to rape, a patriarchal institution, blah, blah, blah. The aim of my lecturers was to completely deconstruct, raze to the ground, as much of the western narrative as they could. And they did so gleefully with a gimlet eye.

    They did me a favour, though they intended to do me none. They toughened up this little princess as I dodged and weaved and counter struck. They ensured that, after the dust had settled and I had graduated, I could hold my own not simply intellectually, but emotionally as well. You don’t need a safe space to hide away in when the space already within you has enough psychological capacity to cope with what is thrown at it.

  57. Helen

    Or maybe oozed from the carcass of a dead cat.

  58. Dr Fred Lenin

    Like most modern PC socialist crap the beginnings of the destruction of them is Defunding ! Withdraw funds wasted in education , finance the usefull things like medical and engineering and Defund the rest . You will eliminate the indoctrinators as the institutions won’t be able to pay them and socialists don’t have an s=altruistic bone in their body . My old mantra socialism perishes without other peoples money

  59. john constantine

    I was at a gathering once, where a high paid, internationally travelled Human Rights Lawyer spat out her heartfelt opinion that:

    “We should just fucking kill everybody that isn’t tolerant.”

  60. John Carpenter

    Your history is highly defective Ray.The last emperor was Romulus Augustus who abdicated before the senate in 476.This marked the complete termination of central control over the western empire.

  61. BorisG

    My old mantra socialism perishes without other peoples money

    Not sure about that (historically students have always been radical, regardless of political views of academics), yet it’s a start.

    Actually doctors earn good money, why can’t they fund their own education ? Give them easy credit.

  62. Dr Fred Lenin

    Bores ,students are all mouth never been effective in revolutions except to make noise the guys with the guns make revolutions . I agree doctors and other high earners shoukd pay for their education ,the money can be used to educate more doctors and engineers . How ever abolisj]h law faculties .they are a drain on the Taxoayer,there are enough LIARS without paying to teach them . You

  63. DM of WA

    Articles like this one say this or that should be done to reverse the decline in Western Civilization but the point is that it is now too late. Too late because as well as controlling every cultural and educational institution for a long time, now even the big corporations and the more conservative political parties have become colonies of the the Left.

    We hear so-called conservatives still paying lip service to traditional conservative principles but they never follow through with action. The victories of the Left are never reversed. Just look at the endless campaign to recognise homosexual marriage without a plebiscite, the war to destroy free speech. There just is not any will amongst the political class to oppose the ideas of the Left.

    If there is any hope in future for a revival of conservatism it can only come from outside the institutions through populist rebellions.

  64. Helen

    BorisG: Actually doctors earn good money, why can’t they fund their own education ? Give them easy credit.

    They do fund their own education. They either pay up front, or pay as a debt from future income. The average GP income is $120k per year, which is right on the Australian median. (Note ‘average’ – younger ones get less, income increases with experience.)

    But the length of training means that they start earning at an older age: the basic degree is 4-6 years, but there’s another five years study to get specialist qualifications (including as a GP). There is a new doctor in my family, who got their first job at age 32, after an extra qualification and a gap year as a volunteer at a medical clinic overseas. No matter what they earn in the future, they’ll be behind because they started later.

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/young-people-saddled-by-a-higher-degree-of-debt-20160207-gmo4m0.html

  65. James Hargrave

    At the risk of repetition…

    You will likely receive more intellectual stimulation from tertiary syphilis than from most of present-day tertiary education.

    And it is pleasing to have someone else take an ice axe to ‘Human Resources’, a form of out-relief for sociopaths. ‘Jackboot’ is appropriate, since many of these people would have fitted perfectly into the great labour organisations of National Socialism. What were concentration camps but early exercises in human resources management? Yes, ‘HR’ seems dominated by desiccated females sucking lemons – imagine them in the staff dining room at Dachau etc. and you will see the fit.

  66. BorisG

    They either pay up front, or pay as a debt from future income.

    Australian students don’t pay full fees. They have at least 50% discount.

  67. BorisG

    How ever abolish law faculties .they are a drain on the Taxoayer,there are enough LIARS without paying to teach them

    I am against demonization of any profession, just let people pay for their education safe for some transient acute needs of national or state significance. But even with that we need caution.

    say we need more teachers. one way it to fund education at unis. another is to increase teachers pay, so students naturally choose to study this.

  68. Mellen

    When my kids were in high school I started a second degree. One of the compulsory subjects was environmental studies. In one tutorial, a graph denoting the rising incidence of autism diagnosis since 1970 was presented as evidence that chemical pollution was causing autism.

    I pointed out that prior to 1970 autism (or at least severe cases) was diagnosed as mental retardation and that far from proving the involvement of ‘chemical pollution” there was no evidence produced that it existed, let alone that it was rising or that it was causing autism. I was rounded on by the tutor who insisted that chemical pollution was causing all manner of ills ( this was a fact that we all had to learn, there was no need for supporting evidence whatsoever) I was eventually kicked out of the class and the university.

  69. Rabz

    Baa Humbug
    #2329942, posted on March 18, 2017 at 10:41 am

    Comment of the thread.

  70. Mark A

    Helen
    #2330216, posted on March 18, 2017 at 5:04 pm
    No matter what they earn in the future, they’ll be behind because they started later.

    Helen, my daughter who choose not to go to uni but became a fully fledged beautician, including hair dressing and all that goes with making women look nice, has already overtaken her brothers in money earned, who both have degrees and reasonable jobs.

    She will forever be earning more than they will.

    I love her for her clear thinking and practicality.

  71. Razor

    It is TOO LATE.

    Catastropic events caused by a world gone madly into debt will end the millenial cultural marxist phase in history.
    I expect a relatively high degree of anarchy combined with very excessive govt control in a world which has experienced a crushing wave of economic disaster.

    Things will have to be re-built after reconciling debt.

    I agree Lomborg is a warmist who expresses the commonsense approach, If you believe the non-theory ,,,- (there is no null hypothesis of AGW). I also agree that he does the truth no good – there is not only no AGW there is in fact no GW.

  72. duncanm

    Stackja – thanks for the link.

    Amazing the level of wrongoloy going on: Tim Anderson on Chavez

    .. and lets not forget Ananda Marga.

    FMD

  73. classical_hero

    The problem with Lomborg is that he’s a splitter.

  74. classical_hero

    The intolerance of the tolerance people.

  75. Rococo Liberal

    The irony is that these ”progressives” are forever now telling us that Trump and his supporters are like the Nazis.

    The truth is that if anyone has learnt from the fascists it’s the ”progressives” themselves. This is evidenced by their complete intolerance of any dissent from their ideology and their predilection for violence/

    The thing is that they have already lost. With all that influence in the media, the universities and Hollywood and they still can’t beat Donald Trump.

  76. Crossie

    The coopers thing is kind of funny …

    I thought that apology was a spoof and kept waiting for a punchline. That’s why comedy is dead, real life is now a parody of itself.

  77. nilk

    The point is that Aleric wanted to be a Roman and sacking Rome was the means by which he chose to be recognized as their equal.

    So Aleric sacked Rome because he saved Rome? 😉

  78. Enough of the references to conservative. The neo-marxists and their (unfortunate) weak willed, indoctrinated followers use it as a pejoritive term.
    Whenever and wherever the word conservative is to be used, replace it with the word sensible

  79. Andrew

    When my kids were in high school I started a second degree. One of the compulsory subjects was environmental studies. In one tutorial, a graph denoting the rising incidence of autism diagnosis since 1970 was presented as evidence that chemical pollution was causing autism.

    Since chemical pollution is massively declining, the graph would suggest that chemical pollution CURES autism.

  80. Andrew

    The march continues… next week we celebrate harmony day at work… to remind us that we deserve re-education because white people are such racists wife beating bastards…

    Actually I do know a white guy who bashes his Asian de facto. Good news for me – it’s encouraged her to bang me on the side.

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