Monday Forum: March 20, 2017

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  1. struth

    Harmony day.
    The sickness of virtue signalling knows no bounds.
    Classic feminine bullshit.
    Oh dear, I’m a sexist………really?
    I would bet my swelling scrotum sack that a world still run by men, actual men, would never even contemplate , much less encourage, what ultimately is the sickness of female social competition and how the bitches within the fairer sex, practice it.
    I’m sorry ladies, but you are making the case for sticking you back in the kitchen not only appealing, but necessary.

  2. Nick

    Halal food only.

    What about kids of say, Chinese descent. They love their pork. Halal food only.Hey should ‘harmony’ be about appeasing only one group?

  3. ZK2A:

    Why is Lord Waffles suddenly re discovering his spine?

    Maaate.
    You haven’t worked it out?
    He’s going to call a snap election.

  4. Nick

    Why, not hey. This iPad shits me.

  5. notafan

    Lets have a recap of that Women who don’t want to be mums’ when they all hit 40

    When they are all lining up for ivf and surrogacy (and selectively aborting their nqr babies)

    Otherwise who cares if sjws don’t breed?

  6. Ragu

    Zero Iraqis were involved

    A pretty sad evasion flamehead

  7. Boambee John

    CL at 1320

    Years ago there was an ad on tv that “10 percent of Australians are affected by mental health problems”.

    I assumed at the time that this included family members of those with problems. It is now clear that it was only those with a problem, and the number seems understated.

  8. World Frog Day is on March 20

    I thought it was July 14?

  9. Will

    m0nty
    #2332676, posted on March 21, 2017 at 1:20 pm
    What happened on the 11th of September?

    Zero Iraqis were involved. Don’t try to lie that invading Iraq was justified Raghead, even the Cat has long since given that one up as a bad joke.

    Monty ur a window licking moroon.

    Iraq was invaded largely pursuant to Clinton’s Iraq Liberation Act (1998) and the noisy, wall-to-wall insistence by Democrats that Saddam Hussein possessed WMD. I can present video and text to back up that latter point. But contrary to leftist trooferism, the invasion was never merely about WMD. Thecasus belli, are listed in the Iraq War Resolution (2002). You will note the reference to al-Quaeda being linked to Iraq. This link was officially made by the Clinton Administration on two separate occasions. First, in the Federal indictment of Osama bin Laden for the 1993 WTC bombing (dated Nov. 4, 1998); second, as the stated justification for Operation Infinite Reach (1997) – the US bombing of the Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory in Sudan.

    Then defence secretary William Cohen steadfastly stood by the Iraq/Al Qaeda link in testimony before the 9/11 Commission.

    Having inherited a rampant and untouched Al Qaeda from Bill Clinton (the “weak horse”), Bush acted to eliminate the WMD/Al Qaeda threat, whose epicentre was Iraq, according to all of the official acts and policies and military misadventures of William Jefferson Clinton.

  10. Bruce of Newcastle

    Zero Iraqis were involved

    100% muslims involved.

  11. Will

    wait, but there is more!

    Do we remember that Bill Clinton signed into law the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 that supported regime change in Iraq? He gave an eloquent speech on the dangers of Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction.

    In 2002, both houses of Congress voted overwhelmingly to pass a resolution authorizing the removal of Saddam Hussein by force. Senators such as Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, and Harry Reid offered moving arguments on the Senate floor why we should depose Saddam in a post-9/11 climate.

    Democratic stalwarts such as Senator Jay Rockefeller and Representative Nancy Pelosi lectured us about the dangers of Saddam’s stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction. They drew on the same classified domestic- and foreign-intelligence reports that had led Bush to call for Saddam’s forcible removal.

    The Bush administration, like members of Congress, underestimated the costs of the war and erred in focusing almost exclusively on Saddam’s supposed stockpiles of weapons. But otherwise, the war was legally authorized on 23 writs. Most of them had nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction and were unaffected by the later mysterious absence of such weapons — which is all the more mysterious given that troves of WMD have turned up in nearby Syria and more recently in Iraqi bunkers overrun by Islamic militants.

    and more

  12. Boambee John

    Notafan at 1330

    ABC newsreader in Canberra about 15 years ago had a bit in the Canberra Times bemoaning that her generation had been misled by their “feminist mothers” into believing they could have everything.

    Then the biological clock ran out and “woe is me, no kids”.

  13. incoherent rambler

    Years ago there was an ad on tv that “10 percent of Australians are affected by mental health problems”.

    Based on voting results at the last Federal election, I think that number is now over 75%.

  14. Leigh,
    I watched the utube of clippy getting sorted out and followed one of the links to this
    Some of them seen before, but many not.
    One of the pictures – an iceberg bearing a coating of paint – believed to be the one hit by the Titanic.
    Another of Kiwi troops holding a monster rifle in 1918 used for armour piercing of tanks.

    Thanks.

    Some good shots there. The one of the tank crew surrendering to a lone soldier states that the soldier is British when he is in fact an Aussie.

  15. srr

    It Took a Freshman GOP Congresswoman To Pull The Mask From FBI Director Comey…
    Posted on March 20, 2017 by sundance

    FBI Director James Comey unmasked as a Deep State Black Hat Operative.

    Representative Elise M. Stefanik is a young, freshman republican congresswoman from the Albany New York area. And using a probative questioning timeline, she single-handily pulled the mask from FBI Director James Comey, yet no-one seemed to notice.

    Obviously Ms. Stefanik has not been in the swamp long enough to lose her common sense.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/congressional-intelligence-gang-of-eight-2017.jpg

    In the segment of the questioning below Rep. Stefanik begins by asking director Comey what are the typical protocols, broad standards and procedures for notifying the Director of National Intelligence, the White House and senior congressional leadership (aka the intelligence Gang of Eight), when the FBI has opened a counter-intelligence investigation.

    The parseltongue response from Comey is a generalized reply (with uncomfortable body language) that notification of counter-intel investigations are discussed with the White House, and other pertinent officials, on a calendar basis, ie. “quarterly”.

    With the statement that such counter-intel notifications happen “generally quarterly”, and against the backdrop that Comey stated in July of 2016 a counter-intel investigation began, Stefanik asks:

    …”when did you notify the White House, the DNI and congressional leadership”?

    BOOM! Watch an extremely uncomfortable Director James Comey outright LIE… by claiming there was no active DNI -which is entirely false- James Clapper was Obama’s DNI.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlXXZQgh72Y

    Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/20/it-took-a-freshman-gop-congresswoman-to-pull-the-mask-from-fbi-director-comey/

  16. Ragu

    I tell you. People like Monty, sad people by the way, very sad. Are happy to live in a democracy while they use the bad hombres in countries that torture their people,they actually use torture I tell you.

    These people use the word democracy as some sort of dirty word to legitimise those that kill their own people.

  17. 100% muslims involved.

    Saddam and his secular state had nothing to do with 9/11.

    I appreciate the fervour you lot are showing for war. It’s good to see you’ll once again be part of the Useful Idiot Brigade once Trump casts off the shackles of isolationism and presses the big red button, like you knew he always would.

  18. Zyconoclast

    From our friends at the ANU


    100% Renewable electricity in Australia.

    90% (wind + solar) + 10% (pumped hydro + biomass)

  19. Gab

    I see monty the rakeoholic is at it again. What’s he angry about today to warrant all these comments?

  20. Ragu

    Tell me Monty, what happened first after the eleventh of September,

    The Afghan war

    Or

    The overthrow of Saddam

    Bonus points for telling me the former general now in Trumps team

  21. Zyconoclast

    Director Dean Israelite discusses first big-screen LGBT superhero. … The Power Rangers movie is making big waves for the LGBT community.

    But will it make big waves at the box office?

  22. struth

    I never get a bite with my anti feminist rants.

  23. The Afghan war

    That one was entirely justified. Iraq… wasn’t.

  24. Bruce of Newcastle

    M0nty – You are a lot of fun.

    W and Rumsfeld thought that relatively secular Iraq could be popped over to a democracy, and that by a domino effect that would spread in the region. Which would, the hypothesis goes, stop the endless wars since democracies tend not to declare war on their neighbours.

    That did not work because the population is overwhelmingly muslim. So you are criticising W for being a romantic lefty. I agree with you!

    The righty response is to put a wall around the whole place and only let out anyone who is not muslim, including muslims who leave Islam.

    I welcome ex-muslim immigrants to Australia because if there is one sure thing they most certainly know that they have escaped a fascist regime.

  25. Geriatric Mayfly

    There is a very low threshold for “Harassment” especially when the wimminzes get hold of it. Once a work colleague received a postcard, and pinned it on his desk. It showed a lass in summer attire and not all that revealing. A feminist, busy body prude on the ugly side spotted it, and immediately complained to those higher up, that every time she passed it, she felt ‘harassed.’ George was forced to take it down; because as you can imagine, the issue would have gone further.

  26. Snoopy

    Stephen Conroy is joining Sky News.

    FMD.

  27. srr

    Fox News Pulls Judge Napolitano Off Air Due To Prior Comments on UK Trump Surveillance…
    Posted on March 20, 2017 by sundance

    Apparently Rupert Murdoch has taken action against Judge Andrew Napolitano as an outcome of his broadcast report on British Intelligence coordinating surveillance activity with the NSA – Backstory HERE* – A few weeks earlier Napolitano was on Fox Business News saying President Trump* was the first president to confront The Deep State.

    (Via LA Times) Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano is being kept off the air indefinitely amid the controversy over his unverified claims that British intelligence wiretapped Trump Tower at the behest of former President Obama.

    * Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/20/fox-news-pulls-judge-napolitano-off-air-due-to-prior-comments-on-uk-trump-surveillance/

  28. Geriatric Mayfly

    First Question and Labor is straight into rabble mode in QT. Howler Monkeys Inc.

  29. W and Rumsfeld thought that relatively secular Iraq could be popped over to a democracy, and that by a domino effect that would spread in the region. Which would, the hypothesis goes, stop the endless wars since democracies tend not to declare war on their neighbours.

    That did not work because the population is overwhelmingly muslim. So you are criticising W for being a romantic lefty. I agree with you!

    W wanted to finish the job his daddy started of finally winning a war for America. Rumsfeld wanted to start a war, any war, for personal glory. They did not care about democracy or any other principle, or otherwise they would have planned better and installed experienced people in the transition team instead of pimply college graduates.

    Iraq was a SCOAMF from the minute the tanks rolled into Baghdad. You lot mostly admitted that by the end of Dubbya’s second term, as it was impossible to deny. Not surprising that you’d try to exhume his reputation at some point, when the immediate history is not fresh in the memory. But no, Dubbya was in contention to be known as the worst president in history (to that point), and his miserable failure in Iraq was a large part of that.

  30. .

    Has the learned Judge Napolitano actually been taken off air?

    If so, that is really heavy handed, wouldn’t a retraction suffice? I can’t say the British government has always been 100% correct in the information it has given out.

  31. Snoopy

    If only GWB had achieved the success of Obama’s Arab Spring.

  32. JC

    You know, if Comey comes up with nothing over the next few weeks, Trump should fire his fucking arse.

    Comedy is the most hated person in the US at the moment.

    It’s his usual schitck… make leading comments and then come up with nothing. It’s time to call his hand and perhaps Trump should appoint a special prosecutor to go after him.

    It’s truly fucking incredible that Comey creates a suspicion of Wussian/administration collusion and when asked about the illegal leaking shows reluctance to investigate and find the criminal.

    Go after the fucker with a sledgehammer.

  33. Bruce of Newcastle

    W wanted to finish the job his daddy started of finally winning a war for America. Rumsfeld wanted to start a war, any war, for personal glory. They did not care about democracy or any other principle, or otherwise they would have planned better and installed experienced people in the transition team instead of pimply college graduates.

    You just jumped the shark M0nty.
    Read what you just wrote.
    I love it when a lefty explodes their head because reality doesn’t fit with their creed.
    W was finally proven wrong, utterly, when popular revolutions did start in MENA – only they didn’t cause democracy, they caused the opposite.
    Obama’s Arab Spring.

  34. .

    monty

    Cut the shit.

    Saddam was a monster. The reasons for invasion were flimsy. Bush might have had other motivations which were pretty clever (encircle Syria, Iran and the Saudis) but he couldn’t say openly.

    Was it in the United States’ best interest? Maybe not. I didn’t think it was in ours and the lack of support screwed the Coalition.

    Funny you say Bush didn’t care about democracy. The war was popular. He took democracy to Iraq.

    They did not care about democracy or any other principle, or otherwise they would have planned better and installed experienced people in the transition team instead of pimply college graduates.

    They got advice they ignored, re troop numbers post invasion.

    Iraq was a SCOAMF from the minute the tanks rolled into Baghdad.

    Not really. It started when they began pulling out and the clans started killing each other, and al Qaida and an obscure Jordanian group of nutters evolved into ISIS.

    The biggest failures in Iraq happened under Obama. He extended the failure to elsewhere and failed to protect civilians at Palmyra where he justifed bombing Gadaffi on the same grounds. He could have annihilated an ISIS column (a division sized outfit) but refused to call his own air force. It went on to sack Palmyra and kill more civilians.

  35. stackja

    Zyconoclast – movie message more important than money?

  36. Ragu

    Trump casts off the shackles of isolationism

    Erm, care to rethink that statement?

    As your better I have to tell you that you have things arse backwards.

  37. JC

    Dot

    He’s not a freaking judge. He’s retired. He’s a loon, having spent time with Infowars suggesting the 911 attack was an inside job. Release the dogs on the fucker.

    Having said that, you can at least say he never claimed Bush senior was a pizza gater…. as far as we know.

  38. .

    JC

    Trump has the numbers now to hammer him in House and Senate committees, right?

    Once that done he should pull a Pontius Pilate. “I have no choice, y’see…, my conscience is clear, I even feel sorry for poor Mr Comey, but the representatives of the people in this democracy leave me no choice but to make him accountable for his poor decisions and politicking…I fire his arse with clean hands…”

  39. An influential member of the British Medical Association’s medical ethics committee has said that women should be able to have abortions at any stage of pregnancy, and for any reason, including because the baby is a girl.

    In an interview with the Mail on Sunday, Prof Wendy Savage, a retired obstetrician and gynaecologist, who the paper says has performed 10,000 abortions in her career, said it was “outrageous” that some hospitals refuse to reveal the sex of the baby during a scan, because of fears of sex-selective abortion. “ It’s her body and her foetus, so she should have that information,” she said. “If a woman does not want to have a foetus who is one sex or the other, forcing her [to go through with the pregnancy] is not going to be good for the eventual child, and it’s not going to be good for [the mother’s] mental health.”

    Feminism eats itself and treats the child as chattel. Despicable.

  40. .

    He’s not a freaking judge. He’s retired. He’s a loon, having spent time with Infowars suggesting the 911 attack was an inside job. Release the dogs on the fucker.

    Oh god.

    Blow me up, Tom.

  41. thefrolickingmole

    They did not care about democracy or any other principle, or otherwise they would have planned better and installed experienced people in the transition team instead of pimply college graduates.

    Who knows, maybe if they knew they were going to war based on false information about WMDs, as alleged by every lefty on earth, they may have flown in a couple of loads of equipment/enriched uranium/WMD to be “found” at one of the presidential compounds.

    Why its almost as if they really did believe WMDs would be found..

  42. srr

    JC
    #2332724, posted on March 21, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    You know, if Comey comes up with nothing over the next few weeks, Trump should fire his fucking arse.

    Comedy is the most hated person in the US at the moment.

    It’s his usual schitck… make leading comments and then come up with nothing. It’s time to call his hand and perhaps Trump should appoint a special prosecutor to go after him.

    It’s truly fucking incredible that Comey creates a suspicion of Wussian/administration collusion and when asked about the illegal leaking shows reluctance to investigate and find the criminal.

    Go after the fucker with a sledgehammer.

    The difference between you, other ‘influential Australians’ (tee hee), and Trump, is his understanding of, Timing, oh, and a whole bunch of other stuff … 😀

  43. Saddam was a monster. The reasons for invasion were flimsy. Bush might have had other motivations which were pretty clever (encircle Syria, Iran and the Saudis) but he couldn’t say openly.

    Bulldust, Dot. You don’t encircle a region by invading one country. You are just making that up.

    The war was popular. He took democracy to Iraq.

    Yeah, how did that work out? Ask people now, the war is massively unpopular in retrospect because everyone knows the administration fabricated lies.

    They got advice they ignored, re troop numbers post invasion.

    They were incompetent.

    Not really. It started when they began pulling out and the clans started killing each other, and al Qaida and an obscure Jordanian group of nutters evolved into ISIS.

    It started when the tanks got to Baghdad and everyone looked at each other and said, “uh… what now?” Dubbya never had a satisfactory answer. The war was easy, he failed horribly at the peace.

  44. .

    I’m sure Mr Trump understands timing, but this constant attacking of anyone who isn’t Trump is really pathetic, space cadet level dreck, USSR.

  45. Zyconoclast

    Saddest picture & caption of the week.

    From Meet the women who don’t want to become mums.

    When she is old invalid, her dog can (probably does now) lick the dribble off her chin and sh** off her @rse.

  46. Bruce of Newcastle

    You know, if Comey comes up with nothing over the next few weeks, Trump should fire his fucking arse.

    No. Not the right strategic approach, since Comey wants that. In the court of public opinion it would look like shooting the messenger, and would further the deep state’s strategic aim of setting up Trump’s impeachment:

    Limbaugh on Comey Hearing: Message to Trump Is Stop the ‘Drain-the-Swamp Stuff’ or Face Impeachment

    The correct action is to appoint a special prosecutor into the Hillary email server. That would then hang Comey out to dry since he declined to prosecute her for a crime on par with what put Bradley (ahem) Manning in the clink for 35 years.

    Comey would be shown to be a Dem partisan and the special prosecutor would have his ass on a platter.

  47. JC

    How the fuck would you know about “timing”, or anything like that, USSR? You spend most of your life in a dark basement, never seeing daylight, posting conspiracy laden tweet shit here 24/7. Show a little humility for once. .. and go have a shower and brush your teeth.

  48. Ragu

    You really are a dumb xunt monty

    And I mean that sincerely

  49. John64

    Labor doubling down on Section 18C in QT. Two questions in a row from Anne Aly crying “wacists”.

  50. .

    monty

    US allies: Israel, arguably Pakistan and Saudi, also Jordan, Turkey, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait and arguably Afghanistan and Egypt. If you control Iraq from there, you’ve effectively encircled Iran, KSA and Syria.

    It is just my theory and you can take it or leave it. It is entirely speculative.

    You say Bush didn’t care about democracy because it didn’t work out. That’s changing the goalposts.

    I agree they acted incompetently in the occupation, but neither of us suggested or predicted otherwise beforehand. The general sort of worry I made clear isn’t specific enough to claim I saw it coming regarding troop numbers. Even if I said it took away from the fight against AQ and bin Laden.

    It started when the tanks got to Baghdad and everyone looked at each other and said, “uh… what now?” Dubbya never had a satisfactory answer. The war was easy, he failed horribly at the peace.

    This is a terribly glib assessment of what actually happened.

  51. JC

    Fair points Bruce.

    But one point I’d like to make. Comedy isn’t a D’rat partisan. He’s a Comey partisan.

  52. Why its almost as if they really did believe WMDs would be found..

    They continually lied about intelligence assessments.

    In October 2002, Bush said that Saddam Hussein had a “massive stockpile” of biological weapons. But as CIA Director George Tenet noted in early 2004, the CIA had informed policymakers it had “no specific information on the types or quantities of weapons agent or stockpiles at Baghdad’s disposal.” The “massive stockpile” was just literally made up.

    In December 2002, Bush declared, “We do not know whether or not [Iraq] has a nuclear weapon.” That was not what the National Intelligence Estimate said. As Tenet would later testify, “We said that Saddam did not have a nuclear weapon and probably would have been unable to make one until 2007 to 2009.” Bush did know whether or not Iraq had a nuclear weapon — and lied and said he didn’t know to hype the threat.

    On CNN in September 2002, Condoleezza Rice claimed that aluminum tubes purchased by Iraq were “only really suited for nuclear weapons programs.” This was precisely the opposite of what nuclear experts at the Energy Department were saying; they argue that not only was it very possible the tubes were for nonnuclear purposes but that it was very likely they were too. Even more dire assessments about the tubes from other agencies were exaggerated by administration officials — and in any case, the claim that they’re “only really suited” for nuclear weapons is just false.

    On numerous occasions, Dick Cheney cited a report that 9/11 conspirator Mohammed Atta had met in Prague with an Iraqi intelligence officer. He said this after the CIA and FBI concluded that this meeting never took place.

    More generally on the question of Iraq and al-Qaeda, on September 18, 2001, Rice received a memo summarizing intelligence on the relationship, which concluded there was little evidence of links. Nonetheless Bush continued to claim that Hussein was “a threat because he’s dealing with al-Qaeda” more than a year later.

    In August 2002, Dick Cheney declared, “Simply stated, there’s no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.” But as Corn notes, at that time there was “no confirmed intelligence at this point establishing that Saddam had revived a major WMD operation.” Gen. Anthony Zinni, who had heard the same intelligence and attended Cheney’s speech, would later say in a documentary, “It was a total shock. I couldn’t believe the vice president was saying this, you know? In doing work with the CIA on Iraq WMD, through all the briefings I heard at Langley, I never saw one piece of credible evidence that there was an ongoing program.”

    US liberal support for the war was based in large part on these and related lies. The left couldn’t believe that Republican lies would be that monstrous. We know better now.

  53. srr

    Also, in light of the whole, “RUSSIA!!!”, farce, do any of you ever wonder about the true loyalty to your cause, of those who influenced you into nailing the “USSR” tag on me … 😉 … 😆

  54. Senile Old Guy

    New South Wales Police Minister Troy Grant says he has learnt his lesson after being fined and losing four demerit points for holding a mobile phone while behind the wheel. The Nationals MP for Dubbo reported himself to the police after taking a photo of a sheep in the boot of a nearby car while stopped at roadworks at the weekend.

    Stopped and taking a photo.

  55. Bruce of Newcastle

    Actually now that I think of it the special prosecutor should be appointed to look at Weiner’s caching of Huma and Hillary’s emails on his laptop.

    That then limits the ‘sour grapes’ defense which the DNC would start screaming about. The content of the hearings would then crucify Weiner, then Huma, then Hillary, then Comey. Nice cushion shot.

  56. srr

    Jordan B Peterson‏ @jordanbpeterson 3h3 hours ago

    Jordan B Peterson Retweeted The New York Times

    The horror….

    The New York Times‏Verified account
    @nytimes

    What if sociologists had as much influence as economists?

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/843987034222006272

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 … hee hee …

  57. Ragu

    Bush lied!

    Where did the president get his information from?

    The intelligence community now saying the 2017 election was hacked?

  58. US allies: Israel, arguably Pakistan and Saudi, also Jordan, Turkey, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait and arguably Afghanistan and Egypt. If you control Iraq from there, you’ve effectively encircled Iran, KSA and Syria.

    So you’re encircling Saudi Arabia… with Saudi Arabia?

    Off to the hall of mirrors with you, Dot.

  59. .

    That is some bizzare, attention seeking behaviour by the NSW Police Minister.

  60. .

    Yes monty, because they’re a so-so ally. So you may not necessarily count them.

    Which was mentioned before re: “arguably allies”, everyone got it except for you, champ.

    You can say “oh that’s a dumb idea”, but instead you choose to argue with your own lack of reading comprehension.

  61. Ragu

    Fucking bam by the way

    Lefties listen up. You can’t post shit here about reports ‘read’ by the POTUS and then say the war was unjust, but the reports about Trump are legal and necessary.

  62. Roger

    Post-modern ethics 101(a):

    Appropriating another culture is forbidden.

    Appropriating another gender is laudable.

  63. .

    The correct action is to appoint a special prosecutor into the Hillary email server. That would then hang Comey out to dry since he declined to prosecute her for a crime on par with what put Bradley (ahem) Manning in the clink for 35 years.

    The US Federal Courts have no announced law from the bench regarding precedence for what constitutes “gross negligence” regarding criminal liability. She’d get off on those grounds. I don’t think the judges would want to decide on that with such a high profile trial and appeal.

  64. Bruce of Newcastle

    But one point I’d like to make. Comedy isn’t a D’rat partisan. He’s a Comey partisan.

    ROFL!
    Wiki:

    In September 2013, Comey was appointed Director of the FBI by President Barack Obama.[3]

    Now consider, JC, would Barack Obama appoint a neutral guy to the chair of J. Edgar Hoover, who for decades was the most powerful man in the world?

  65. .

    Also too, I think Obama wrote delegations so broadly she can unfortunately get away with it. I can’t see Barry testifying against her.

  66. Snoopy

    Turnbull really is clueless on penalty rates. Shorten and the labour movement are vulnerable but Turnbull won’t do the obvious.

  67. Nick

    Appropriating another culture is forbidden.

    Except the appropriation of white culture, Roger

  68. thefrolickingmole

    m0nty

    So they had a diabolical plan, but somehow forgot to plant evidence which could have been arranged with ease during the post takeover days?
    In effect the legitimacy of the whole exercise would have been confirmed by about 3 sea containers worth of uranium or similar “smoking gun”, but the cunning conspirators forgot it?

    Thats theorizing on the “I would have go away with it if not for you meddling kids” level of stupid.

  69. So you’re encircling Saudi Arabia with US military ordnance to threaten them, but also treating them as an ally? What would it take for you to invade KSA as well… perhaps if they sponsored a terrorist attack on US soil which caused 3000 deaths? Or maybe if they sponsored a new terrorist threat which then re-invaded Iraq to set up an apocalyptic medieval religious state of some kind?

    I suppose the massive internal contradictions of US policy to Saudi Arabia are not your fault, Dot. None of it makes much sense and there are no easy answers.

  70. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Added a small amount of a slower drying solvent that he knew was compatible with the resin – bingo!
    I got four weeks pay – $200 – for saving the batch.
    A minor victory, but some 45 years later I still remember the pay I got for watching paint dry.

    Winston, what a financially heart-warming, to say nothing of excellent paint-warming, story. 🙂

    ——————-
    The bystander stood there and harassed her.
    Does that sound wrong, a single instance, from an unknown person, carried on for a short period of time?
    Saying something more than once, as in ‘you’re a fool, a great big bloody fool’. That’ll harassing too?
    ———————

    Re where the SWJ’s learn their very own and very special language? Try any university course in the Yarts anywhere in Australia. It’s Yarts Speak, spoken fluently by activists everywhere.

  71. Roger

    Post-modern ethics 101(b)

    Killing animals in a humane manner for food is questionable.

    Killing human babies in the womb is a right.

  72. Post-modern ethics 101(a):

    Appropriating another culture is forbidden.

    Appropriating another gender is laudable.

    Noice.

  73. Roger

    Except the appropriation of white culture, Roger

    Good point, Nick.

    Of course, consistency isn’t the strong point of Po-Mo ethics.

  74. Bruce of Newcastle

    The US Federal Courts have no announced law from the bench regarding precedence for what constitutes “gross negligence” regarding criminal liability.

    Evading FOIA is not gross negligence Dot, it’s a Federal crime. She’d get the cell next to “Richard Windsor”.

    Furthermore the Weiner email cache shows she failed to disclose on subpoena a large number of emails, in breach of SF-312. That is also a crime.

  75. JC

    srr
    #2332745, posted on March 21, 2017 at 2:29 pm
    Also, in light of the whole, “RUSSIA!!!”, farce, do any of you ever wonder about the true loyalty to your cause, of those who influenced you into nailing the “USSR” tag on me … 😉 … 😆

    Nope. Never gave it a second’s thought, USSR.

  76. .

    So you’re encircling Saudi Arabia with US military ordnance to threaten them, but also treating them as an ally?

    That actually happened.

    I suppose the massive internal contradictions of US policy to Saudi Arabia are not your fault, Dot.

    Damn right.

  77. Roger

    Post-modern history 101(a):

    Islam, which conquered and subdued much of the known world through the sword, is a religion of peace.

    Christianity, which incrementally brought liberty to hundreds of millions*, is a religion of violence and oppression.

    *Cf. Larry Siedentop, Inventing the Individual, the Origins of Western Liberalism (Penguin, 2015) among numerous other studies.

  78. So they had a diabolical plan, but somehow forgot to plant evidence which could have been arranged with ease during the post takeover days?
    In effect the legitimacy of the whole exercise would have been confirmed by about 3 sea containers worth of uranium or similar “smoking gun”, but the cunning conspirators forgot it?

    Thats theorizing on the “I would have go away with it if not for you meddling kids” level of stupid.

    mole, you’re a genius. All Dubbya needed to do was ship containers of uranium to Iraq and make it look to impartial UN inspectors like they had been there for 20 years. Easy peasy!

    Moron.

    The more reality-based explanation is that Rumsfeld and Cheney didn’t particularly care about what happened after the war, they got their fat defence budget contracts for their fat cat mates and that was all that mattered. It would be nicer to think they were merely incompetent rather than actively evil in wasting all those lives, but the deliberate nature of their lies gives the game up on that one. They knew exactly what they were doing (although Dubbya may have been too dumb to realise). American and Iraqi lives were expendable to serve their interests.

    Please, Cats, keep defending Dubbya. This is great fun. Can we talk next about Nixon? It’s like a golden oldies radio station around here, playing all the conservative failure hits.

  79. Post-modern parenting 101 (a):

    A woman may request a DNA test for her child.

    A man may not.

  80. Snoopy

    Their ABC:

    Cricket Australia makes new pay offer with ‘gender equity at its heart’

    Anyone who follows cricket these days is gay.

  81. JC

    All major organised sport in the country is gay or about to turn. So why single out cricket?

  82. thefrolickingmole

    m0nty

    All Dubbya needed to do was ship containers of uranium to Iraq and make it look to impartial UN inspectors like they had been there for 20 years. Easy peasy!

    Well, yes, exactly.
    Glad you are learning something.

  83. .

    The way Federal authorities evade FOIA, there is no way they want to push this. Have you seen the way some FOIA requests are redacted or simply ignored?

    Failing to give up subpoenaed information is a crime, but with improperly obtained evidence – at least in Australia under common law and the various evidence acts, the judge has to say the probitive value is greater – but they’d be declaring a precedent which might be dangerous from a public policy perspective.

    She’s a crook, but she’ll get off.

  84. thefrolickingmole

    Anyone want to guess what unpleasant reality this might lead Guardian readers to confront?

    Using this data, the Guardian found that half of the United States’ gun murders in 2015 were clustered in 127 cities (Want to fix gun violence? Go local). We also found that violence was concentrated even further than simply the city level: census tract areas that contain just 1.5% of the country’s population saw 26% of America’s total gun homicides.

  85. stackja

    Saddam convinced himself he had WMD and the world believed him. Chemical Ali added to the illusion. Iraq under Saddam was a fantasy.

  86. Zyconoclast

    The Afghan war

    That one was entirely justified.

    Why was the Afghan war justified?

  87. curious george

    A woman may request a DNA test for her child.
    Because she is not certain which poke made her pregnant.

    A man may not.
    Because he dares to imply that she is not certain which poke made her pregnant.

  88. val majkus

    Julia Gillard has been unanimously elected by the Beyond Blue Board of Directors as incoming Chair replacing Jeff Kennett.

    depressing

  89. Ragu

    Please, Cats, keep defending Dubbya

    Nobody is defending anything but you, dimwit

    First you say the USA intelligence community is impervious and virtuous in saying the Russians hacked the election.

    Then, you rely on the old canard that Bush Lied ™ even though any and all presidents get their information from the same ‘intelligence community’ that you now boost.

    Give me a fucking break

  90. Gab

    Can anyone tell me why monty is dredging up leftist talking points from 2003?

  91. srr

    Time for Dot to update his Stasi Lists, and make it international … don’t want any of those fans of JC, Dot, Hillary, The Podesta’s and Co. accidently finding themselves on Tucker Carlson’s List 😉 –

    Paul Joseph Watson Retweeted
    WikiLeaks‏Verified account @wikileaks 8h8 hours ago

    Interview with Ranking Member of U.S. House Intelligence Committee
    Democratic Adam Schiff (D) on “Russian election hacking” #Podesta

    https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/843913473381797888

  92. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I never get a bite with my anti feminist rants.

    struth
    #2332707, posted on March 21, 2017 at 1:52 pm
    Time out

    I wuz listening Struth but too busy in the kitchen to reply. 🙂
    Self-imposed time out is a wonderful discipline, which I would love to master.
    Or is that mistress? Except I don’t agree with slaughtering the language.
    Nor can we ever end the eternal battle between the sexes.
    And that’s about it for me on feminism.
    Certainly when Islam is on the list for the ‘most feminist’ prize.

  93. Zatara

    On multiple occasions Clinton broke very specific Federal Regulations having to do with the storage and safeguarding of classified information.

    “Gross negligence” isn’t an element of the offense nor is it mentioned anywhere in the applicable regulations.

    Instead, it is a fake “standard” that Comey invented to give them an excuse not to prosecute.

    You either broke the regulation or you didn’t, it’s just that simple. And she most certainly did break them.

  94. .

    ???

    Since when have I bought into the Dem’s “Russia!” nonsense, USSR?

  95. srr

    Paul Joseph Watson‏Verified account @PrisonPlanet 5h5 hours ago

    Louise Mensch’s paranoid conspiracy about Russian bots controlling Infowars has made it all the way to the FBI. 😄

    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/843964312087646208

  96. Nick

    Roger, here’s a PM quiz:
    Which of the following are murderous acts?
    1. shark netting,
    2. tuna that isn’t dolphin safe
    3. Abortion

    You you answered one and two you were correct. Option three is a right.

  97. .

    “Gross negligence” isn’t an element of the offense nor is it mentioned anywhere in the applicable regulations.

    Instead, it is a fake “standard” that Comey invented to give them an excuse not to prosecute.

    You either broke the regulation or you didn’t, it’s just that simple. And she most certainly did break them.

    Check the US code. I can’t remember the specific title. It does mention gross negligence.

  98. Why was the Afghan war justified?

    The Taliban was and is a terrorist machine. If your objective was to prevent global terrorism, something which had massive Western support after 9/11, going after them was the right move.

    Priority #1 should have been going after the Wahhabists in Saudi Arabia, since they are the source of the vast majority of the problems. For reasons I have never fully understood, they seem to be barley-cross-fingers from any repercussions of terrorism performed using their money, something that has been bipartisan all along and hardly ever questioned. I guess the theory is that if the Kingdom fell apart then that would start WW3 so propping the Saudis up is the lesser evil, but that theory hasn’t stood up to the test of time so far because so much evil has been done with their support.

  99. .

    curious george
    #2332786, posted on March 21, 2017 at 3:06 pm
    A woman may request a DNA test for her child.
    Because she is not certain which poke made her pregnant.

    A man may not.
    Because he dares to imply that she is not certain which poke made her pregnant.

    Yes, but he can deny that the kid is his. So in some ways men are protected, but if they want access to their child, no, they are not.

    Otherwise you can get an order if there is proceedings in a family law matter, but it has to pass the “best interests of the child test”.

    The way to go probably (and I recommend that you seek qualified advice) is to start by requesting a parenting order.

  100. Nick

    Why was the Afghan war justified?

    Well, the British regarded India as being more important and reduced the annual payment to the various tribes 🙂

  101. stackja

    Gab – 2003 was before BO/HRC!

  102. .

    At least we agree monty that the KSA, Iran and Syria basically fund and otherwise support or agitate most terrorism in the Middle East and globally. Even Assad backed what became ISIS to begin with before it bit him on the rear and tried to take over his country.

  103. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Can anyone tell me why monty is dredging up leftist talking points from 2003?

    Communism is half a dozen whacky discredited memes that commies recycle perpetually. It’s a lot like islam in that sense.

  104. JC

    You’re a military strategist now, monst?

  105. For reasons I have never fully understood . . .

    Oil, and an agreement made in the early Seventies to only trade it in USD and to invest the profits back into various US securities. As always, follow the money.

  106. .

    What’s the name of this agreement, MV?

  107. C.L.

    Um, Monty … it was the Clinton Administration that linked Saddam Hussein to Al Qaeda. First when the Clinton D0J named Osama bin Laden in the official indictment for the first WTC bombing (1993) and second for Operation Infinite Reach (1998).

  108. Zyconoclast

    Why was the Afghan war justified?

    The Taliban was and is a terrorist machine. If your objective was to prevent global terrorism, something which had massive Western support after 9/11, going after them was the right move.

    Terrorism? I thought the was to allow girls to go to school and men to shave their beards.

    They should have either wasted the place Chechnya style or left it alone.*

    * my preferred option.

  109. JC

    What agreement are you cooking up now, Vaultaire?

    Bretton Woods made the US Dollar the predominate reserve currency then followed by the pound, so the US was the predominant transition currency for world trade.

    What agreement are you cooking up now in that fevered imagination of yours. I hope this doesn’t turn into a pizza gate conspiracy…. for all our sakes.

  110. At least we agree monty that the KSA, Iran and Syria basically fund and otherwise support or agitate most terrorism in the Middle East and globally. Even Assad backed what became ISIS to begin with before it bit him on the rear and tried to take over his country.

    Iran’s influence is overrated. The Republicans have been obsessed with Iran since the Ayatollah came to power, and have ignored all the evils of Saudi Arabian sponsorship of global terrorism because they want the princes’ support against Iran. The Bushes’ regional strategic reasoning for the invasion of Iraq was ostensibly to provide a stepping stone to then invade Iran and get the whole thing over and done with. Democracy through annexation to be greeted as liberators, that was the plan.

    Unfortunately for Iraq, Dubbya’s mismanagement of the peace showed that the plan was not worth the napkin it was written on.

  111. notafan

    I never get a bite with my anti feminist rants.

    Not even from Monty?

  112. JC

    What’s the name of this agreement, MV?

    Get in line, as I’m asking too. One cat and dog, two cat and dog, three..

  113. What’s the name of this agreement, MV?

    No bloody idea, Dot. International agreements are not my strongpoint. Nonetheless, it does have a name, and there is nothing secret about it. It was the agreement which pretty-much established the USD $ as the defacto currency of international trade, if that helps.

  114. C.L.

    The Clinton DoJ’s WTC bombing indictment (1993):

    US GRAND JURY INDICTMENT AGAINST USAMA BIN LADEN.

    06 November 1998

    The Grand Jury charges:

    4. Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in
    the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist
    group Hezballah for the purpose of working together against their
    perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States.
    In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of
    Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on
    particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al
    Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq
    .

  115. stackja

    Brezhnev believed he owned Afghanistan.

  116. curious george

    The way to go probably (and I recommend that you seek qualified advice) is to start by requesting a parenting order.

    Thanks Dot. Not necessary.
    With 49.5 yrs of marital bliss it was never an issue.

    I was pointing out the obvious inference in that she can acknowledge that she is a loose tart but he can’t call her a loose tart.

  117. Um, Monty … it was the Clinton Administration that linked Saddam Hussein to Al Qaeda. First when the Clinton D0J named Osama bin Laden in the official indictment for the first WTC bombing (1993) and second for Operation Infinite Reach (1998).

    By 2001/02 it was plain from intelligence reports that Saddam’s boasts were entirely hollow, as per the examples I cited above, not to mention the evidence of how quickly his army folded when Dubbya’s tanks started rolling. There were no WMDs, there was barely any military strength at all. But Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush kept lying to fabricate justification for the war they always wanted anyway.

  118. Senile Old Guy

    18C action:

    Labor MP Anne Aly, who has previously told Parliament she received death threats after Immigration Minister Peter Dutton made comments about Lebanese-Muslims, asked how the changes would affect her. “As someone who has been subjected to racism time and time again — as I was growing up, and even in my life now — please give me an answer: what exactly does the Prime Minister want people to be able to say that they cannot say now?” she asked.

    Born in Egypt and lived in Australia since the age of 2. I presume she means this new religious ‘racism’.

    Those on the conservative side have long argued the laws, as they stand, inhibit free speech. But moderates, and MPs representing ethnic communities, believe the Act effectively protects against hate speech and should not be changed.

    …unless you are white and male, in which case, you are fair game for any sort of abuse.

  119. Bretton Woods made the US Dollar the predominate reserve currency

    Yes, that’s the one. Thank you JC.
    I forget the actual year, but sometime in early seventies.

  120. .

    Bretton Woods was in 1944, MV.

  121. Bretton Woods made the US Dollar the predominate reserve currency

    I believe it’s the agreement that gave rise to the term “petrodollar”.

  122. JC

    No bloody idea, Dot. International agreements are not my strongpoint. Nonetheless, it does have a name, and there is nothing secret about it. It was the agreement which pretty-much established the USD $ as the defacto currency of international trade, if that helps.

    Lol…one step forward three steps back.

    Dot, I think Archimedes is talking about the gradual diminution of the pound as the pricing/ reserve currency and the move to the dollar. It was a convention change by markets moving from the Stg to the greenback.
    Arch was trying to making it sound like a conspiracy of some sort.

  123. Philippa Martyr

    “As someone who has been subjected to racism time and time again

    Is racism when people don’t like you?

    Or is it when someone with a different skin colour to yours calls you a white c-word when you’re minding your own business shopping in any Australian urban area?

  124. By 2001/02

    How convenient.

    BTW, Hillary will never be President.

  125. JC

    Bretton Woods was in the late 40/s , Vaultaire.

    It was an interesting agreement pushed by that sly old queen.. Keynes.

  126. srr

    Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸‏ @JackPosobiec 12h12 hours ago

    Since we’re talking foreign influence, why hasn’t @RepAdamSchiff disclosed his ties to Ukrainian arms dealers and Soros? #ComeyHearing

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/843872734773960704

  127. Bretton Woods was in 1944, MV.

    Yes, but Nixon changed the rules of the game in 1971. From Wikipedia:

    On 15 August 1971, the United States unilaterally terminated convertibility of the US dollar to gold, effectively bringing the Bretton Woods system to an end and rendering the dollar a fiat currency.[2] This action, referred to as the Nixon shock, created the situation in which the US dollar became a reserve currency used by many states. At the same time, many fixed currencies (such as the pound sterling, for example) also became free-floating.

    As previously stated, beyond that I know SFA.

  128. JC

    Okay. 1944 then.. same difference.

  129. srr

    Paul Joseph Watson Retweeted
    Ⓑring Ⓑack Ⓒake‏ @BBCPropaganda 11h11 hours ago

    The US intelligence services think Putin would want to see more BRExits.

    #BRExit was democracy in action.

    Which side are they on?

  130. Zatara

    Check the US code. I can’t remember the specific title. It does mention gross negligence.

    Apples and oranges. There are other statutes that criminalize unlawfully removing and transmitting highly classified information which have no such language.

    FBI Rewrites Federal Law to Let Hillary Off the Hook

    “It is a common tactic of defense lawyers in criminal trials to set up a straw-man for the jury: a crime the defendant has not committed.

    Being not guilty (and, indeed, not even accused) of Offense B does not absolve a person of guilt on Offense A, which she has committed.

    The idea is that by knocking down a crime the prosecution does not allege and cannot prove, the defense may confuse the jury into believing the defendant is not guilty of the crime charged. Judges generally do not allow such sleight-of-hand because innocence on an uncharged crime is irrelevant to the consideration of the crimes that actually have been charged.”

    Thus, with the collaboration of the Obama DoJ and the MSM, Comey put up a strawman and (some of) the public bought it.

  131. Senile Old Guy

    Is racism when people don’t like you?

    Yes, unless you are white and Christian.

    Or is it when someone with a different skin colour to yours calls you a white c-word when you’re minding your own business shopping in any Australian urban area?

    No, you should have checked your privilege.

  132. What I actually wrote:

    No bloody idea, Dot. International agreements are not my strongpoint. Nonetheless, it does have a name, and there is nothing secret about it.

    What JC says I wrote:

    Arch was trying to making it sound like a conspiracy of some sort.

    Just can’t help yourself, can you, you lying, fat, fatuous faggot.
    Tell me again about you wanting us to have an “open and honest” discussion.

  133. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Or is it when someone with a different skin colour to yours calls you a white c-word when you’re minding your own business shopping in any Australian urban area?

    Or when your farmhand has to knock off work, and go home because the local indigenous are throwing stones and bottles at his house, and threatening his wife with rape, because she won’t lend them money?

  134. calli

    You guys fighting again? Four cube skip ordered. Pressure wash for the spatter.

    Just mind the petit point Liberty Quotes. 😃

  135. feelthebern

    General Monty goes to the doctor.

    General Monty: Doc, I can’t stop masturbating.
    Doctor: You’ll have to stop.
    General Monty: Why ?
    Doctor: Because it’s going to make it hard for me to examine you.

  136. wivenhoe

    You guys fighting again? Four cube skip ordered. Pressure wash for the spatter.
    Just mind the petit point Liberty Quotes.

    Just means that my scrolling finger gets a lot of exercise, calli.

  137. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    On that piece about women not wanting to have children – did you notice all the care and attention help lines listed at the end of it? Somewhere someone is going to be triggered by this discussion. A sensible conclusion.

    The pretty married 27 year old will likely change her mind in the next ten years. The others seemed to have various emotional problems to do with upbringing or self; the one seemingly sane much older one had mixed all her life in The Yarts with its, at best, non-child attitudes and at worst, anti-child ones.

  138. Four cube skip ordered. Pressure wash for the spatter.

    No need, Calli. I’ve got a recalcitrant dishwasher to fix for Mrs MV.

    Meanwhile, the lying, fat, fatuous faggot can regale you all with tales about how I believe the moon landings were faked, and the secret society of dentists planning world domination.

  139. Philippa Martyr

    From the other fred, but too good not to share. From Nikki Savva’s column tomorrow:

    Right-wing blogger Sinclair Davidson should do the decent thing and disappear into the sunset. Before he goes, before whatever remains of his reputation is obliterated, he should issue a heartfelt apology to the Prime Minister for his appalling lack of public support on his Catallaxy Files blog.

    What appears to be vengeful behaviour by Davidson has confirmed in the Prime Minister’s mind that he was right not to offer him pre-selection for a safe Liberal seat in return for favourable media comment. Davidson’s decision to publicly comment unfavourably on the Prime Minister’s track record is indicative of covert links with Tony Abbott, who is known for manipulating media attention to blacken the Prime Minister’s reputation unjustly.

    Davidson’s rank betrayal of the man who has shown him nothing but tolerance, patience, warm understanding handshakes, wise nods of the head, and absence of any actual comment committing him to anything, is nothing short of perfidy.

    It is a scorched-earth policy from someone whose concept of leadership fails to take in the things that really matter in a leader: ruthlessness, extinction of one’s enemies in Cabinet, and public selfies.

    Davidson’s own record on this matter is disgraceful. Having initially and publicly thrown his support behind the Prime Minister, he has subsequently had a change of heart and now offers at best lukewarm recommendations.

    Leaving aside the obvious pressure under which Davidson has been forced to bow – pressure applied from the swivel-eyed del-cons and other right-wing conspiracy theorists on his blog – he could have at any time turned to the Prime Minister’s office for moral support. Malcolm Turnbull has expressed his willingness to appear in a selfie with Sinclair Davidson at any time, which is more than Davidson deserves for his tepid commentary.

    So spare me the lectures, Professor Davidson. I am only concerned about those who arrived, relatively speaking, a matter of minutes ago, who won something very precious, then destroyed it in record time. I speak naturally of Malcolm Turnbull, whose jettisoning of worthless Liberal seats in the last election was a masterstroke, reducing the Liberals to the lean fighting machine they were meant to be. Turnbull is the true heir of Menzies in this respect, as in all others.

  140. Philippa Martyr

    Just mind the petit point Liberty Quotes.

    Not the scatter cushions!

    They took AGES!

  141. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    By the way, one of my very best friends has no children and had an early menopause in her forties. She also has no formal education beyond high school and no real career apart from her supporting her successful and wealthy husband, who died recently. I am just about her opposite in all of these things, but we have a very easy friendship, always on the phone together although she now lives interstate. Children just didn’t happen for her, the time never seemed right, the husband had a previous family, and his illness took up a lot of her day’s energy. She isn’t miserable about it, just sees it as fate. If women don’t have children, and they are sane rather than scared of life, then really that is their business not anyone else’s.

  142. Snoopy

    curious george
    #2332822, posted on March 21, 2017 at 3:32 pm
    With 49.5 yrs of marital bliss it was never an issue.

    Stockholm Syndrome?

  143. Dover Beach at 1417;
    That was predictable, wasn’t it?
    As soon as Boards of Ethics were set up, then the Left would fill the positions, because who else would have the expertise and duty to lead us to the sunny uplands of Nirvana.
    I’d not be bragging about carrying out 10k abortions.
    The children she aborted had lives that was not her right to terminate.

  144. Mark from Melbourne

    Philippa, that is rolled gold.

    You channel the Bittered Sav just about as well as old Bob!

  145. Mark from Melbourne

    Speaking of petrodollars, there is a good potted history in this piece (and also some perhaps wild speculation as to the future…).

    http://ftmdaily.com/preparing-for-the-collapse-of-the-petrodollar-system/

  146. BrettW

    Anne Aly can lecture the white Australians on racist comments etc after the first Muslim leader (I mean the ones preaching Sharia, against gays, against Israel etc) is charged with something under 18C or brought before the HRC like the QUT students.

    She has been elected an MP by a presumably majority white population (albeit Labor voters). Now she gets to play the victim card as well.

  147. curious george

    Stockholm Syndrome?

    Never thought to ask her Snoopy. She may well have been affected.

  148. Nick

    Well done Philippa 🙂

    It could almost have ‘un-named sources within Catallaxy Files hint at discontent and that a coup may not be far away’ . All our source would allow was the quote ‘follow the doughnut trail’.

  149. Top Ender

    Did someone mention going to the Alamo for four thousand dollars?

    I volunteer.

  150. johanna

    Australians are so racist that Anne Aly got preselected and then elected to Parliament.

    Yep, poor love has been treated that badly in this vile nation.

    What a snarky, ungrateful bitch.

  151. Nick

    She has been elected an MP by a presumably majority white population (albeit Labor voters). Now she gets to play the victim card as well.

    Yes, such a victim of racism eh ?/ sarc.

  152. feelthebern

    The only thing more useless than the Federal Libs are the Victorian Libs.
    Why fight Penguin Pete’s takeover from the insitu Kroger?
    They’re all a freaking joke.

  153. srr

    Meanwhile, the lying, fat, fatuous faggot can regale you all with tales …

    aww, be fair MV, you know it’s only coz of all the kiddies who gather around his feet and beg him to tell his tales, again, and again, and again, until they all know them off by heart, and repeat them with such passion, that anyone would believe they’re real 🙄

  154. .

    They are real, SRR.

    I’ve seen what JC’s house looks like and I’ve seen the pic of him and Thatcher. He actually posted them on the blog over a decade ago.

    How about the time someone tried to carbomb you in Australia?

    Oh?

  155. Senile Old Guy

    Well done Philippa

    Had me fooled for a bit!

  156. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Troll count seems to be way down. Dare we hope?
    I’m out for a while. Grigs can count it as an ‘ignore’ and ‘scroll’.

  157. Baldrick

    Take a look at the division in the Senate regarding Bernardi and Lyenjhelm’s proposed Bill to freeze Senators pay until the budget reaches surplus.

    No guessing which side supported the Greens, Xylophone and Labor.

  158. notafan

    Children just didn’t happen for her, the time never seemed right,

    So she used contraception? That isn’t ‘just didn’t happen’ is it?

    Like I said, who cares if the ‘time never seemed right’ I choose not to have babies lot don’t have them?

    We need another generation of sjw snowflakes like we need a hole in the head.

    And getting married and then deliberately not having children via contraception is one of the reasons marriage is so demeaned in the 21st century that people think people of the same sex can get ‘marriaged’

    Purposely childless meet purposely childless.

  159. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Yes, beautifully channeled, Philippa. 🙂

  160. Elizabeth (Libby) Zee

    Why is Lord Waffles suddenly re discovering his spine?

    Perhaps he has realized that his continued posing as a tough guy in Question Time (largely ignored when not actually being laughed at by the Opposition) is nowhere near enough to forestall those plotting his imminent removal and replacement. I did not see today’s QT but thought it rather pointed that in yesterdays QT Peter Dutton was afforded only one very late Dorothy-dixer. That Dutton wasted it by trying to outdo the Waffler in haranquing Shorten was also telling.

  161. Dr Faustus

    Those on the conservative side have long argued the laws, as they stand, inhibit free speech. But moderates, and MPs representing ethnic communities, believe the Act effectively protects against hate speech and should not be changed.

    The AHRC reports that in 2015/16 it received a total of 77 complaints of ‘Racial Hatred’. Of these, 15 related to various forms of what could be described as ‘hate speech’.

    Given that Australia (pop. 24 million) is apparently a seething, foetid hotbed of racism only held in check by the mailed fist of government, s.18c is clearly a sensationally effective social control.

  162. Baldrick

    Hahahaha well done Ms Martyr.

  163. .

    Perhaps he has realized that his continued posing as a tough guy in Question Time (largely ignored when not actually being laughed at by the Opposition) is nowhere near enough to forestall those plotting his imminent removal and replacement. I did not see today’s QT but thought it rather pointed that in yesterdays QT Peter Dutton was afforded only one very late Dorothy-dixer. That Dutton wasted it by trying to outdo the Waffler in haranquing Shorten was also telling.

    Classic Grigory. Classic elasmobranchophilia.

    Apologies if you’re the real deal.

  164. egg_

    Monster’s vewwy angwy about Trump’s Comey over? (h/t Bloggy)

  165. .

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
    #2332883, posted on March 21, 2017 at 4:26 pm
    Troll count seems to be way down. Dare we hope?
    I’m out for a while. Grigs can count it as an ‘ignore’ and ‘scroll’.

    Azazel.

  166. egg_

    Murder_lucky_hotel

    Not so lucky for some?

  167. Tom

    I can’t help but agree with Catallaxyfiles reader Niki Savva. Professor Sinclair Davidson’s toleration of dissent about our president’s blueprint — being revealed methodically over time — is reckless and against the national interest. Only a coven of delcons could have failed to appreciate the president’s brilliant strategy of shedding worthless Liberal seats last July.

  168. Old School Conservative

    It’s a crazy world where I can read Phillipa’s satire and keep thinking “but it is so real…..surely….”

  169. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    He died of prostate cancer, Notafan. For a lot of their marriage they had no sex life, due to his treatment. Prior to that, the needs of his other family were prioritized. For most people, using contraception is not a refusal to accept the full responsibilities of marriage and children. That would be a minority view, and you are entitled to hold it. Others think differently about it, including many practicing Catholics, and very lapsed ones like my own Hairy Ape, who adores children and could afford many but takes account of his and my health, our current four children, and many other things.

    My friend is no unthinking ‘snowflake’. Nor is Hairy. Thanks goodness his PSA is fine (his father died of prostate cancer), and that his blood cancer has gone into remission. Life is difficult, and offers much to think about in the choices we make. My point about childlessness is that it can be thoughtless, but there are times too when it is not.

  170. egg_

    Nikki Savva: wot – no mention of Lapsang Sochung?

  171. .

    Unless you’re Phillipa Martyr, you’re stealing my bit.

  172. Cradock's Choice

    Monty:

    There were no WMDs, there was barely any military strength at all.

    Clueless and wrong beyond imagining

  173. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Only a coven of delcons could have failed to appreciate the president’s brilliant strategy of shedding worthless Liberal seats last July.

    Savva has expertly pinned Turnbull’s unrecognized secret strategy. His genius is now exposed. Doomlord’s original insights are vindicated. May Savva’s commentary thrive on this so far misled far-right site. We deserve no less.

  174. gabrianga

    At last. Google is knocked back by major international advertisers.Pathetic apology from Google exec.

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/global-brands-shun-google-p9zlr7bq7

  175. Filbert

    Someone posted a list of the top Uni course for best employment prospects a week or so ago.
    I’ve tried to find it but cannot.
    If some kind soul could repost, it would be very much appreciated.

  176. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azazel

    I had to look it up, Dot. 🙂

  177. .

    I guess “Betelgeuse” would have been more apt.

  178. notafan

    Well you were not clear then because what you wrote was ‘the time was never right’ implied deliberate childlessness, not was I talking about short term avoidance of childbearing, which using natural methods, even Catholics are allowed to use, to space their families.

    The discussion was about deliberate permanent childlessness. Of course some people can’t have them , hardly news at six. Seems like you did a major storyline/goalpost shift there but whatever.

    As for your ‘hairy’ I really don’t see what his health or lapsedness has to do with the subject (though I thought he was an Anglican).

  179. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Four former inmates of Darwin’s Don Dale Youth Detention Centre have been awarded damages of between $12,000 and $17,000 for their treatment in relation to an incident in 2014 in which teargas was used to quell what authorities wrongly described as a riot.

    The group sued the Northern Territory, alleging multiple instances of assault, battery and maltreatment, including through the use of dogs, spit hoods, handcuffs and shackles.

    In a judgment handed down at the NT Supreme Court a short time ago, Judith Kelly awarded aggravated but not exemplary damages, and only upheld a minority of the claims.

    Justice Kelly handed three of the boys $12,000 each and one $17,000, making for a total combined award of $53,000. There will be a separate hearing on costs.

    The case is expected to set a precedent of other youngsters wanting to sue over their alleged mistreatment in youth detention in the Territory. At one stage, it was suggested the youngsters might expect to win upwards of $200,000.

    Authorities have yet to react to the ruling.

    From the Oz.

  180. thefrolickingmole

    I have been convinced by the sage wisdom in the battered Savs article reposted so kindly by Phillipas “deep throat” within the bowels of Chez Murdoch.

    I hereby resolve to continue not voting for MAOcolms Team until they achieve the pinnacle of political success and consist of a party of only our great leader (may he live 1000 years)

    Then we will truly be worthy of his magnificence.

  181. Diogenes

    For Cats who happen to be on the Central Coat this coming Sunday…

    The stacks are coming down via explosives at Munmorah (weather permitting) . Sadly no time other than “between 9 & 5” is given. I am trying to arrange my schedule so that I will be in Koala Park to watch. I suspect the WHS nazis won’t let us get that close so maybe the back deck at the Doylo (Doyalson RSL) might be the go.

    I will miss those landmarks

  182. Tintarella di Luna

    I am hearing that there has been a significant increase in the number of cases of measles, mumps and other infectious diseases. Give that immunisation rates are better than 95% of the herd. What has happened in the last few years that would cause increases in these infectious diseases. Is it a lack of vaccination or is there another cause perchance?

  183. Gab

    You’re terrible, Muriel Philippa.

  184. johanna

    Tinta, there are clusters of these preventable infectious diseases in places like the NSW north coast, where the local hippies refuse to vaccinate their children.

  185. W wanted to finish the job his daddy started of finally winning a war for America.

    Muttley, it was idiot lefties that convinced his dad not to roll the tanks into Baghdad in the first place.

    Iraq was a SCOAMF from the minute the tanks rolled into Baghdad.

    No, have a rake. What cost the “peace” was naively not using the existing security as they were obviously tainted. It was the vacuum this caused that Iran willingly exploited. It was a dodgy idea badly executed.

  186. Philippa Martyr

    Nikki Savva: wot – no mention of Lapsang Sochung?

    Souchung, you ignoramus.

  187. cohenite

    Diogenes

    #2332922, posted on March 21, 2017 at 5:04 pm

    For Cats who happen to be on the Central Coat this coming Sunday…

    The stacks are coming down via explosives at Munmorah (weather permitting) . Sadly no time other than “between 9 & 5” is given. I am trying to arrange my schedule so that I will be in Koala Park to watch. I suspect the WHS nazis won’t let us get that close so maybe the back deck at the Doylo (Doyalson RSL) might be the go.

    I will miss those landmarks

    I think it would be visible from Bonnells Bay hotel. It’s a pity Trinity Point is not yet up and running. Good vantage points also at the old psychiatric centre.

    At least Munmorah had been mothballed unlike the working plants blown up by the dickheads in SA.

  188. A Lurker

    My point about childlessness is that it can be thoughtless…

    Yes, our own experience is that Mother Nature* can be very thoughtless indeed.
    * Would love children, but Mother Nature was very, very unkind to us.

  189. Boambee John

    You know m0nty, for a bloke who doesn’t have time for a paid week in Malmo, you sure spend a lot of time on this blog.

    Between that and reading the daily GetUp talking points, how do you get any work done?

  190. Philippa Martyr

    I cheated a bit with this one – it’s actually a modified version of a diatribe she let rip with against one T Abbott Esq.

  191. Philippa Martyr

    And so it goes.

  192. Philippa Martyr

    Between that and reading the daily GetUp talking points, how do you get any work done?

    Monty hires himself out as a renewable energy resource. He can either talk for hours as a wind farm, or cover himself with solar panels. Your choice.

    (I used to have a soft spot for poor old Munster, but his craven behaviour over Malmo put a stop to that very quickly. No one was fooled, Monty.)

  193. Nick

    Dreyfus on SKY ‘ 18c is the ‘line that has served us very well for the past 21 years’ and now it’s possible to deny the holocaust occurred if 18c is denuded.

  194. I cheated a bit with this one – it’s actually a modified version of a diatribe she let rip with against one T Abbott Esq.

    I must admit I thought it was for reals. Which says something about the wrinkled hag.

  195. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    (I used to have a soft spot for poor old Munster, but his craven behaviour over Malmo put a stop to that very quickly. No one was fooled, Monty.)

    Watching someone have his bluff called is always an amusing sight.

  196. Phillipa:

    I speak naturally of Malcolm Turnbull, whose jettisoning of worthless Liberal seats in the last election was a masterstroke, reducing the Liberals to the lean fighting machine they were meant to be. Turnbull is the true heir of Menzies in this respect, as in all others.

    Mein Gott!
    How deluded is this idiot?
    That couple of sentences is worthy of inclusion in DSM 5!

  197. Snoopy

    Four former inmates of Darwin’s Don Dale Youth Detention Centre have been awarded damages of between $12,000 and $17,000

    A second hand Commodore, a carton of bourbon and half an ounce of Ice. All gone.

  198. Delta A

    At least Munmorah had been mothballed unlike the working plants blown up by the dickheads in SA.

    And, next month, Victoria.

  199. Savva’s article reads like she’s got bipolar: one side candy, the other Philippa.

  200. Delta A

    Mein Gott!
    How deluded is this idiot?

    Um…, Winnie, it’s a p*sstake, courtesy of our talented Philippa M.

  201. egg_

    Philippa Martyr
    #2288614, posted on February 7, 2017 at 6:12 pm
    From Nikki Savva:

    Malcolm Turnbull made me a cup of Lapsang Sochung in his bright red lacquered pot. It tastes of old shoes, but of course I would never say that. The Prime Minister is too busy a man to distract with my feminine quibbles.

    Whoops!

  202. Ah, that would be because it was half Philippa. I picked it!

  203. Phillipa, I believed you!
    I hate you.
    May your armpits grow hair like a sheep, and your scissors be blunt.

  204. Snoopy

    I cheated a bit with this one – it’s actually a modified version of a diatribe she let rip with against one T Abbott Esq.

    So to produce satire you plagiarised? My head hurts.

  205. Delta A

    I picked it!

    With a little help from your friends.

  206. JC

    Just can’t help yourself, can you, you lying, fat, fatuous faggot.
    Tell me again about you wanting us to have an “open and honest” discussion.

    Be reasonable Vaultaire. It’s not as though there’s no history of flagrant conspiracy theories coming from you, you lunatic. Flagrant and absurd…

    This comment started it all.

    Oil, and an agreement made in the early Seventies to only trade it in USD and to invest the profits back into various US securities. As always, follow the money.

    I mean, if you were once suggesting President George Bush snr was running a global homosexual ring molesting young kids, it’s not unreasonable of me or anyone else to think that you were going to take a run with this one.

    You need to be fair minded and cut the abuse , as it’s not nice.

    There was no agreement, secret or otherwise that Dot and I hopefully clarified it all.

  207. Tintarella di Luna

    Dr Philippa Martyr what a treasure you are. You should be writing all the columns for that schifosa

  208. Elizabeth (Libby) Zee

    Classic elasmobranchophilia

    I looked up the meaning of “elasmobranchophilia”. Sorry, what were you trying to say?

  209. That does bring up the point, though: is candy actually Niki Savva doing a bit of slumming at the Cat?

  210. bystander

    Diogenes
    #2332922, posted on March 21, 2017 at 5:04 pm

    The stacks are coming down via explosives at Munmorah (weather permitting) . Sadly no time other than “between 9 & 5” is given. I am trying to arrange my schedule so that I will be in Koala Park to watch. I suspect the WHS nazis won’t let us get that close so maybe the back deck at the Doylo (Doyalson RSL) might be the go.

    On the embankment of Lake Burley Griffin there is a memorial to Katie Bender, a young girl killed by flying debris when the old Canberra Hospital was dropped. Kate Carnell, then in charge of the ACT local council, invited Canberrans to watch the demolition.

  211. Mark from Melbourne

    There was no agreement, secret or otherwise that Dot and I hopefully clarified it all.

    Actually, the link I posted a little upthread, plus any amount of other sources from Dr Google, would suggest that there indeed was an agreement.

  212. Delta A

    schifosa

    Learning more Italian every day – the important stuff, thanks to Tinta.

    🙂

  213. Rabz

    Davidson has been forced to bow to pressure applied from the swivel-eyed del-cons and other right-wing conspiracy theorists on his blog

    LOL – exerting a malign influence out of all proportion to their numbers.

  214. Tintarella di Luna

    there are clusters of these preventable infectious diseases in places like the NSW north coast, where the local hippies refuse to vaccinate their children.

    Up in the Nimbin and Brunswick Heads? I heard of an outbreak in Melbourne early last year with at least a dozen cases. I was wondering if there are any links to articles or stats about this basically because of the number of illegal immigrants who have entered this country in the last 8 years or so — it would be interesting to know of the vaccination status of this large influx of people.

  215. john constantine

    NSW police minister rang up and requested he be fined for using a phone to take a photo of a sheep in the back of a station wagon, while he was stationary at roadworks.

    Just quietly, the first assumption when seeing a sheep being transported like this in todays Australia is that the animal will soon be swinging from a Hills Hoist as a backyard fundemental halal hangup.

    The required paperwork may. or may not have been done for the transport and ownership of this sheep, but the new totalitarian sheep paperwork regime is 5% for disease and 95% suppression of backyard slaughterhouses.

  216. calli

    Another IRA mongrel bites the dust.

    Too late for Spanos and Melrose.

  217. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Another IRA mongrel bites the dust.

    Words like “Good riddance” and “May he rot in Hell” did cross my mind, indeed.

  218. Nick

    Yeah. May he and a few of his mates, burn in hell.

  219. Baldrick

    NSW police minister rang up and requested he be fined for using a phone to take a photo of a sheep in the back of a station wagon, while he was stationary at roadworks.

    Could the Stupid.Fucking.Liberals become any more stupid.

  220. Tintarella di Luna

    Could the Stupid.Fucking.Liberals become any more stupid.

    Baldrick tomorrow is another day, more stupidity will ensue, nothing surer.

  221. calli

    I think Donna MacGuire is still alive. The mills will catch up with her eventually too.

    I visited the IRA museum in Belfast. It made my skin crawl. It stank of hate to the point that I couldn’t breathe in there. The day it’s bulldozed will be a great day for Ireland.

  222. Eyrie

    “Using this data, the Guardian found that half of the United States’ gun murders in 2015 were clustered in 127 cities (Want to fix gun violence? Go local). We also found that violence was concentrated even further than simply the city level: census tract areas that contain just 1.5% of the country’s population saw 26% of America’s total gun homicides.”
    hmmm put barriers around the areas. Ship in more guns and ammo but no food. Wait a couple of months.

  223. JC

    Artiste

    Look at what you get for just over US$2 million in Mallorca Spain. Harbor view by the looks for things.

    http://www.mansionglobal.com/articles/56728-a-modernist-home-in-mallorca-with-an-infinity-pool-and-indoor-theater?mod=cx_picks&cx_navSource=cx_picks&cx_tag=other&cx_artPos=8#cxrecs_s

    I know, the downside is the Euroweenies hanging around.

  224. Zyconoclast

    Four former inmates of Darwin’s Don Dale Youth Detention Centre have been awarded damages of between $12,000 and $17,000 for their treatment in relation to an incident in 2014 in which teargas was used to quell what authorities wrongly described as a riot.

    The group sued the Northern Territory, alleging multiple instances of assault, battery and maltreatment, including through the use of dogs, spit hoods, handcuffs and shackles.

    In a judgment handed down at the NT Supreme Court a short time ago, Judith Kelly awarded aggravated but not exemplary damages, and only upheld a minority of the claims.

    Justice Kelly handed three of the boys $12,000 each and one $17,000, making for a total combined award of $53,000. There will be a separate hearing on costs.

    The case is expected to set a precedent of other youngsters wanting to sue over their alleged mistreatment in youth detention in the Territory. At one stage, it was suggested the youngsters might expect to win upwards of $200,000.

    Authorities have yet to react to the ruling.

    Biggest ice party ever!!!

  225. Filbert

    Sorry to harp but someone posted a list of the best employment orientated Uni degrees a week or so ago.
    I’ve simply cannot find it.
    I have a very clever daughter in senior however she’s rather lost career wise.

    If some gentle person could repost, it would be very much appreciated.

  226. number of illegal immigrants who have entered this country in the last 8 years or so — it would be interesting to know of the vaccination status of this large influx of people.

    I doubt it, Tinta. AFAIK 100% vaccination for pretty-much everything was routine at Christmas Island and elsewhere, handling illegal immigrants.

    I read an article a couple of years ago that suggested an increasing long term fail rate for vaccines, following the widespread use of adjuvants. The theory was that the newer vaccines with much less active ingredient, plus adjuvant, were possibly not as efficacious as initial studies had promised.

  227. Crossie

    Strike me pink! Julia Gillard nearly euthanised the Australian economy but she is going to do good at Beyond Blue. She’s all compassion now but what sort of compassion did this home wrecker show to the families she broke up?

    And I reckon she had work done on her face recently.

  228. Joe

    Filbert, Did a quick search. I could not find any Catallaxy posts related to uni degrees of the type you mentioned.

  229. King Koala

    Halal food only.

    Tell them you are je wish and require k osher food.

  230. Filbert

    Joe, thanks mate.
    It was on the Open Forum but damned if I can find it either.

    Hopefully the person who posted it will be able to help.

  231. calli

    Filbert, was it on the OT or a dedicated thread? Having a look for you, but can’t find anything.

  232. I have a very clever daughter in senior however she’s rather lost career wise.

    Definitely the wrong way to go about choosing a career, Filbert.

  233. johanna

    Up in the Nimbin and Brunswick Heads?

    Oh yeah.

    The Byron shire has the lowest vaccination rate in Australia with one in two kids in Mullumbimby not vaccinated. That affects all of us, because the 2008-2012 whooping cough epidemic started in the shire due to the low rates. Northern NSW notifications were four times the state average. Two babies who were too young to be vaccinated themselves died as a result: four-week-old Dana McCaffery in 2008 and Kailis Smith in April 2011 at nine weeks of age. The epidemic spread throughout Australia.

    and

    The Mullumbimby Home Birth group run by home birth doula Sita Tara and ’certified health coach’ Annalee Atia, have twice hosted Stephanie Messenger to give talks to new mums about vaccination in the past 18 months.

    Ms Messenger is a professional anti-vaccine campaigner who wrote about the ’health benefits’ of measles in her book ’Melanie’s Marvellous Measles’.

    Ms Messenger also claims that vaccines killed her baby son in 1977 despite doctors telling her he had the rare and fatal genetic disorder Alexanders Disease.

    Deluded hippie filth. I dont’ care what they do to themselves, but they sacrifice their children on the altar of their nutty beliefs.

    Recently, a seven year old unvaccinated girl almost died of tetanus at Lismore Base Hospital:

    VACCINATION critics have questioned the medical care given to a seven year old girl prior to the tetanus being diagnosed at LBH.

    In a statement, the Northern NSW Local Heath District said clinicians and nursing staff were trained in, and had access to, the latest clinical protocols for treatment and control of vaccine-preventable diseases, including tetanus.

    The Federal Department of Health recommended treating unvaccinated patients with tetanus-prone wounds using immunisation, and tetanus immunoglobulin – which offers only short term protection.

    Controversial anti-vaxxer, Meryl Dorey claimed in a blog post the diagnosis was “case of medical negligence based on ignorance of the symptoms … and potentially incorrect or incomplete cleaning of the child’s wound in the first instance”.

    Lismore pediatrician Chris Ingall, who treated the girl at LBH in the critical stages, said there was “limited value” in wound cleaning and “vaccination is key” to preventing tetanus.

    “There is no amount of antibiotic or cleansing that will rid (the body) of the (tetanus) infection,” Dr Ingall said.

  234. Diogenes

    On the embankment of Lake Burley Griffin there is a memorial to Katie Bender, a young girl killed by flying debris when the old Canberra Hospital was dropped. Kate Carnell, then in charge of the ACT local council, invited Canberrans to watch the demolition.

    As they say in the classics – “shit happens”, and I am happy to take the risk.
    We watched the old Darra cement works stack come down from literally the end of the short street. There was quite a crowd of people watching from just outside the fence. No body hurt, by goodness there was a lot of ‘blackface’ amongst those closest

  235. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I visited the IRA museum in Belfast. It made my skin crawl. It stank of hate to the point that I couldn’t breathe in there. The day it’s bulldozed will be a great day for Ireland.

    Served with a few ex – British soldiers who had been in Northern Ireland. Their point of view was that Northern Ireland was part of the United Kingdom in the same way as Wales or Scotland, and that, until a majority of the population voted as to their future, the I.R.A. were nothing more then terrorists. (The point was also made that, after the partition of Ireland in 1922, what took place was virtually ethnic cleansing of the Protestant population there, by the Catholic majority, so if the Catholic population was treated likewise this time around, so what?)

  236. Notafan

    There were discussions when Armadillo asked late last year and the this year I think Makka or Mater also asked re science minded daughter.

    Engineering being the thing this time iirc

    Maybe search thise terms?

  237. Natural Instinct

    Has this week marked the beginning of the end for the populists?
    Analysis
    By Stan Grant
    Posted Sat at 9:37am

    So, Geert Wilders did not shake up Dutch politics.
    What happened to the Pauline Hanson juggernaut that was meant to sweep Western Australia?
    Two elections, a world apart in the same week, has some delivering the last rites to the wave of populism that has dominated global politics.
    Mr Wilders’s Freedom Party won 20 seats in the 150-seat Dutch Parliament, well short of the projected 30 plus seats.
    Senator Hanson was tracking at a high of 13 per cent support ahead of the WA poll, but that tailed off to fewer than 5 per cent when the votes were cast.
    To some analysts, voters have had a glimpse of the post-Trump, post-Brexit world and do not like what they see.

    Good to see Stan running his bonafides and virtues up the flagpole – so he can enjoy a long and profitable engagement at their ABC.
    Now for Stan to do a Trump piece. How about…
    Trump-like towers found in Moscow – FBI to investigate links

  238. Notafan

    Lets not refight the Irish wars.

    The Catholics might have had a few justifiable grievances too.

  239. Gab

    Lets not refight the Irish wars.

    Oh why not? Monty et al spent the whole day refighting the Iraqi war.

  240. Notafan

    Okay

    What about those Black and Tans then?

  241. Geriatric Mayfly

    Tetanus is an anaerobic bacterium, and the deeper the wound the better the conditions for it to multiply. Hence the difficulty in cleaning deep wounds if the blighters are already well accommodated.

  242. calli

    Lets not refight the Irish wars.

    Wasn’t doing that, Nota.

    But there are some perpetrators and orderers of very recent crimes who are still walking out and proud. McGuinness refused to meet the parents when they visited Ireland, despite the IRA taking “credit” for the crime. Included amongst the victims of that particular spate of revenge attacks was a six month old baby girl.

    The Irish are happy to regurgitate the glory of their struggle, particularly the 14 killed on Bloody Sunday. Sometimes it’s worthwhile to remember the victims on the other side if the ledger too.

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