Abbott on doing the right thing

Tony Abbott made a very valuable contribution to public values this week when he opined:

You should never do something wrong to achieve something that’s right.

Sounds very plausible. Yet … how to reconcile that no-compromise with inequity view with his actual decisions as PM?

When it comes to counter-terrorism everyone needs to be part of ‘Team Australia’ and I have to say that the Government’s proposals to change 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act have become a complication in that respect. I don’t want to do anything that puts our national unity at risk at this time and so those proposals are now off the table. This is a call that I have made. It is, if you like, a leadership call that I have made after discussion with the Cabinet today. In the end leadership is about preserving national unity on the essentials and that is why I have taken this decision.

Inquiring minds want to know.

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99 Responses to Abbott on doing the right thing

  1. NewChum

    Who knew Nikki Savva would get a guest column here?

    Potential greatness, 18c changes, any day now. Feel the innovation flow and make you more agile!

  2. tgs

    Who knew Nikki Savva would get a guest column here?

    Don’t be a tribalist dickhead.

    There is no denying that Abbott was a brilliant opposition leader and talked a great game but then chickened out on nearly everything meaningful for conservatives in office other than repealing the carbon tax and stopping the boats. He even lifted taxes, ffs.

    It’s perfectly right to call him out for again talking a big game when he didn’t walk the walk when he had the chance.

    You can do that and think Nikki Savva is a hack all at the same time if you try hard enough! Walking, chewing gum and all that…

  3. stackja

    MT is PM and supports 18C.

  4. Cui bono

    Hasnt Abbott acknowledged he got the 18c call very very wrong?
    We’ll never hear Turnbull acknowledge specific errors. Even today he could have shouldered some of the campaign blame. But no never nup.

  5. a happy little debunker

    Cui bono
    In fact, Tony has admitted to learning many lessons and has been relatively humble as a result of that lost leadership.

    Very unlike Malcolm in 2009 who threw a tanty by voting against his party and repeatedly attacked them for not supporting him.

  6. TC

    Abbott couldn’t fight every fight on his own , carbon tax , stopping the boats , standing up to Russia and retrieving the bodies of murdered Australians , all things the media , the opposition and some on his own side said couldn’t be done . Abbott was OK , with a bitt of help and less white anting he would have been better , I would take OK over what we have now.

  7. Jannie

    At first I was puzzled why people like Savva and Sinc still have this obsession with Abbott and still keep trying to badmouth him. I get it now, Abbott is still the bogey man because he is going to be there long after Turnbull and Shorten have left Parliament. So Abbott will be PM the government after the next, say around 2022.

  8. Tim Neilson

    So Abbott will be PM the government after the next, say around 2022.
    It would be a vast improvement.
    By no means perfect, but relative to Peanut Head or the Termite, definitely a step forward.
    But hopefully we can do better via minor parties and independents putting pressure on whoever is leading the Coalition/Labor-Greens cartel.

  9. WolfmanOz

    I 100% agree with what Cui bono and TC have posted.

  10. Bruce of Newcastle

    Quite agree.

    The interesting question is whether that Cabinet discussion was along the lines of “if you chase 18C, Tony, we’ll dump you for Turnbull.”

    If that’s the case then he’s learnt a valuable lesson.

    And so has the Liberal Party as is sinks into its final death throes.

  11. Diesal

    The last one to leave, blow out the tallow dip.

  12. Abbott was wrong to step away from repealing 18c.

    I’m glad his replacement fixed that mistake by repealing 18c.

  13. David

    Get over it Sinc you need to get out a bit no one i meet with likes MT and i move small business circles

  14. teddy bear

    The Savva Sinc one two combo is clearly becoming a regular feature.

  15. Stan

    As opposed to he of Potential Greatness ™.

  16. H B Bear

    The Savva Sinc one two combo is clearly becoming a regular feature.

    Luckily the haircuts allows you to tell them apart.

  17. Combine Dave

    Weird.

    Who is this random powerless back bencher and why hasn’t Prime Minister Mao Trumble aka Mao Turnbull repealed sc18?

  18. Combine Dave

    Abbott was wrong to step away from repealing 18c.

    I’m glad his replacement fixed that mistake by repealing 18c.

    bwhaha

  19. Motelier

    So let me get this right.

    Abbott leads the LNP to a resounding electoral victory on, stop the boats, budget emergency, repeal 18c, and dissolve the carbon tax.

    He was the leader when this started to fall apart, yes the boats were stopped, however Hockey lost the batteries to the fiscal calculator, Brandis managed a double somersault with half pike and twist, and Sissy Pyne effectively reworded the carbon tax.

    If Abbott had some real testicles he would have forced preselection on all sitting members and then called a double D election.

    Abbott and Turnbull are just the figureheads for a conservative party that has lost it’s way.

    The bleed to ultra-conservative parties will continue until a root and branch review of the Libs is completed and voters know what they are voting for. At present, most voters think the Liberals are conservative, experience has shown they are not.

    The winding up of horror stories against PHON in the MSN is probably meant to take some of the heat away from the problems in the Libs and the distaste it leaves in your mouth.

    Think things are bad now, wait until the Slovenien Hag backstabs BullShitten just above his bra strap enabled by her loyal deputy the Thai massage afficiando to lead the Liars to a glorious election victory.

  20. Roger

    A bit of chairty never goes astray, Sinc…it is possible Abbott changed his mind on 18c in good faith after receiving advice from the intelligence services. And it is also possible that he has changed his mind again when out of office after reappraising that advice. Thoughtful people are always open to reconsidering their positions and politicians will always be under pressure to be pragmatic and to accept the advice of their advisors. Credit to Turnbull for changing his mind on the urgency of 18c reform after Bill Leak’s death, too.

  21. Pedro the Ignorant

    Abbott made a “leadership call” about not repealing 18C.

    That is one reason he is no longer the leader.

    His successor is just an empty suit. I expect nothing from him that even resembles any leadership drcision from now until he meets his end at the hands of his totally disillusioned voter base.

  22. Dauf

    Yep, that was the start of the rot (or hope against it)…I’m hope he has learnt to do the right thing and not try and appeal idiots and political zealots of the left.

    But i am absolutely sure that useless Mal doesn’t know what right even means; the only thing in his life for the last 10 years seems to have been “how do i get to be PM…’cause i’m so smart and deserving”.

    Pity he didn’t think what he wanted to do if he ever succeeded after years of white-anting everyone in the Libs to get there. He’s a totally useless tosser, can’t lead and as result we are stuck with him while no-one else will admit their mistakes in giving him a second failed run at liberal leadership

    god help us!

  23. incoherent rambler

    Ooo look over there! A person who is no longer the P.M. said something!

    Phew. For a moment I thought we might have to discuss the train wreck known as Mick Trumble.

  24. Dr Faustus

    It’s perfectly right to call him out for again talking a big game when he didn’t walk the walk when he had the chance.

    Yes it is.

    It’s beyond reasonable doubt that the ALP will form the next government, probably with a large majority and a ALP/Green controlled Senate. It is inconceivable that Turnbull will remain in parliament under these circumstances – and certainly not as Leader. He may well be replaced by his colleagues before a 2019 election.

    At that point, Abbott is likely to be in the mix again as parliamentary Liberal Leader.

    Rudd redux and Turnbull redux give us a reality check on the notion that political leopards can change their spots in exile. We therefore need to remain clear-sighted about Abbott’s past performances while he remains a significant force in parliament.

  25. Dr Fred Lenin

    These career muppet politicians will never get rid of 18c once they make a law the law tradespersons are loath to repeal it , this could set precedent for more laws to be repealed , thus depriving the law trade of money from stupid litigation . Lawtradespersons should be barred from politics ,just look at the mess the useless articles have made of the best country in the world . All law faculties and students totally defunded why should we pay to train maggots to rip us off and anoy us .?

  26. Beachside

    TC
    #2347159, posted on April 6, 2017 at 2:24 pm

    Abbott couldn’t fight every fight on his own , carbon tax , stopping the boats , standing up to Russia and retrieving the bodies of murdered Australians , all things the media , the opposition and some on his own side said couldn’t be done . Abbott was OK , with a bitt of help and less white anting he would have been better , I would take OK over what we have now.

    + 100!

    IMHO, under much pressure on many fronts, Tony Abbott put the repeal / amendment of RDA s18C on the back burner until such time as the prevailing HoR / Senate winds were more favourable to allow a clear path to legislation. He’d thought it through. It was not his preference, it was how things were (at the time).

  27. Faye

    Yes, Tony disappointed me sometimes, NDIS, Gonksi, NBN, 18C, taking on Labor’s costly policies, etc but he also made me proud, stop the boats, repeal carbon tax, Royal Commission into unions, numerous free trade agreements, represented Australia well overseas, his intellectual strength and fine speeches, etc.
    Now that he has had time to look at everything objectively and figure out in his own mind what he has to do, I believe he will be excellent and bold enough to not placate to all and sundry.
    He’s probably read the comments of people here and elsewhere to get firsthand what we all think of him – good and bad. There’s nothing like reading what people think of you to shock you into realizing where you have to change.

  28. I’m glad that people are finally giving Abbott a bit of slack. It’s always easy to suggest what should have/ could have been done, when you’re not the one actually doing it. Abbott is a decent man, especially compared to Turnbull, and only those in the inner-sanctum would be privy to what went on in those days.

  29. jupes

    My take on Sinc’s Savva-like hatred of Abbott and bizarre support of Turnbull.

    A few years ago Sinc went to an IPA event where Abbott assured everyone that he would repeal 18c. Sinc of course believed him. Why wouldn’t you?

    When Abbott caved to the Muslims on 18c, Sinc felt betrayed. He took it personally. Fair enough. However while his opinion on Abbott is entirely justified, he has allowed it to fester resulting in irrational support to his successor.

    I agree that Abbott was a huge disappointment as prime minister, but it is also true that Turnbull is far worse. While he might not have personally betrayed Sinc, Turnbull is fucking up this country quicker than Abbott could have done.

    Sinc needs to rise above the personal and look at the big picture. Triggs is still boss of the AHRC and 18c is still on the books.

  30. dweezy2176

    Think things are bad now, wait until the Slovenien Hag backstabs BullShitten just above his bra strap enabled by her loyal deputy the Thai massage afficiando to lead the Liars to a glorious election victory.

    In a sane Oz this would be a nightmare .. but in today’s Oz it is, probably, the future .. sad, soooooooo sad!

  31. C.L.

    Abbott chickened out.
    Big fat chicken.
    Face the truth, people.

  32. dauf

    And who in the Liberal party room led the argument against repealing 18C…yep, mister useless Mal; so anyone who is against Abbott for being gutless on this (inc me) must by association scorn useless Mal even more for being worse and arguing against it!

  33. TC

    Abbott said the government had lost faith in Triggs , Turnbull invited her around for a cup of tea .

  34. notafan

    Abbott chickened out.
    Big fat chicken.
    Face the truth, people.

    Yes he did.

    But I still want him back.

  35. Rabz

    As I maintained at the time, Abbott’s sellout on 18c was an inexcusable, disgraceful display of gutlessness.

    “Indeed, Perfesser D, there will be no 18c under a government I lead”.

    Unforgivable.

  36. Rabz

    But I still want him back.

    He’d be marginally more tolerable than the green Windbag of Wentworth.

  37. notafan

    I think he has learned his lesson.

  38. Rabz

    I think he has learned his lesson.

    Yep. Don’t promise to abolish 18c.

    Needless to say, he’ll leave it untouched should he reclaim the leadership.

  39. Squirrel

    “You should never do something wrong to achieve something that’s right.”

    Echoes of Eliot’s “greatest treason”; the Becket allusion is so tempting….

  40. candy

    George Brandis – “the right to be a bigot” killed any changes to 18c.
    It’s a classic statement that will never be forgotten in Australian politics.

    Anyways, this is more about Turnbull vs. Abbott. The elites are on the Turnbull train, simply because they hate Tony Abbott who is not the smooth, educated, erudite, cultured Turnbull style.

    If you read the blogs, you see this all the time. If you hate Abbott, you therefore love Turnbull.

  41. notafan

    Needless to say, he’ll leave it untouched should he reclaim the leadership.

    Well he has recently been pretty adamant that is has to go.

    He needs to go an election and win bigly in the Senate to actually do it though.

  42. closeapproximation

    I think he has learned his lesson.

    Yep. Don’t promise to abolish 18c.

    Indeed.

  43. Ray

    It may be possible that Sinclair Davidson has made a mistake in his long life, or taken a decision which he later came to regret. If not, then he is probably well qualified to condemn Tony Abbott. Otherwise, grant him the man the common decency you would expect from others.

  44. The fact is, nobody knows what sort’a PM Abbott would make the 2nd time around. Recall that Howard had a number of goes at leadership and surprised most when he became PM. The question is who, other than Abbott, might be better than the status quo. On that, the answer is nobody in parliament at mo (IMHO).
    Therefore, because I believe people can and do change, and a 2nd time around PM Abbott would be much better than the current SoB or the Union mouthpiece Shorten, I’d much prefer a change.
    The biggest problem would be not Abbott personally, but the rest of the azzholes in the LNP and the commies in the bureaucracy. They won’t let anybody be any good from a conservative perspective.

  45. Adelagado

    Abbott stopped the boats. Apart from that he has been a hypocrite and a total waste of space. He only won because the public was fed up with Labor infighting and because Rudd had been found out. … even his own party was very publicly knifing him, calling him a psychopath and refusing to work with him.

  46. Senile Old Guy

    Therefore, because I believe people can and do change, and a 2nd time around PM Abbott would be much better than the current SoB or the Union mouthpiece Shorten, I’d much prefer a change.

    Yes, the good old ‘at least he’s not Shorten’ argument.

  47. Robber Baron

    The soon to be published review of the election victory of the glorious Mao Trumble will reveal the following:
    The great victory was sealed by:
    =The extraordinary campaigning ability of PM Trumble.
    =The stroke of genius of campaigning under the banner of the TCT .
    =The gravitas of PM Trumble.

    The reason for the victory not being as glorious or substantive as it should have been was due to:
    =Tony Abbott filmed handing out TCT propaganda at Manly station thereby reminding the electorate at large of his failures
    =Tony Abbott re contesting the election thereby reminding the electorate at large of his failures
    =Tony Abbott being intervied by Alan Jones and others thereby reminding the electorate at large of his failures
    =Tony Abbott failing to gain sufficient seats in the 2013 election
    =The electorate’s determination to punish the TCT for the existence of Tony Abbott
    =Tony Nutt

  48. Cui bono

    The review will blame those Labor liars and lack of $ because Abbott turned business off.
    These were factors but the bigger factors were Team Turnbull’s lack of credible reasons to vote for them and their shocking failure to scare everyone about a return to Labor. Turnbull’s low energy performance also failed to energise the troops.

  49. Cui bono

    Also what a stupid time to bring home the review. The government should be talking economics and budget for the next five weeks, but here we go….a week or so for the gallery to pick over the politics of a pathetic election campaign.
    The voters will conclude the government’s a rabble.

  50. Neil

    Abbott chickened out.
    Big fat chicken.
    Face the truth, people

    Perhaps. But how many people in Nazi Germany spoke out against Hitler? Perhaps you should enter politics and show us how it is done. The left is evil. You have to have the balls to make a stand and perhaps losing all your friends.

  51. DaveR

    Anybody who thinks Turnbull will be allowed to lose this coming election, and then Shorten can have his go, and Abbott will sit quietly by until Shorten is done and he gets a go again is not understanding the current balance.
    Turnbull is only a few more major political failures away from being turfed. He will be hung by his own measure of repeatedly poor polls.
    Poetic justice!

  52. DM of WA

    Just another Tony Abbott click-bait article by Sinclair Davidson.

  53. jupes

    Abbott stopped the boats.

    The greatest political achievement in Australia this century.

    If he hadn’t done so a large portion of the millions of Muslims currently invading Europe would be here now.

    Abbott saved Australia.

  54. egg_

    Abbott saved Australia.

    +1

  55. egg_

    Trumble’s in trouble?
    Abbott666 unicorn?

  56. Adelagado

    jupes #2347396, posted on April 6, 2017 at 6:52 pm

    Abbott stopped the boats. The greatest political achievement in Australia this century.

    Yes I will give him credit for that, and we should all be grateful. But he was a one trick pony.

  57. Oh come on

    Another ideologically sound prognostication from Too Late Tony.

    Thanks for that, Too Late.

  58. Garry

    Abbott May not have been perfect of even very good as PM but at least he is genuine and honest. Had he been at Lismore he wouldn’t have used the misery of this catastrophe to create a photo opportunity for himself by pretending to clean up an already clean floor – he would have actually got in and actually helped out. I’ll back a genuine man against a pretender any day. And as soon as Abbott is reinstated as PM I will switch my vote back to the coalition.

  59. Adelagado

    Just remember …. this is the same dickhead who couldnt find a single person in Australia worthy of a knighthood … so he gonged Prince Philip.

  60. Andrew M

    And with this single trite statement, Tony Abbott has eliminated all war and punishment.

    Black and white?
    Really?

  61. Mother Lode

    I think this could well be a principle that Abbott is much consumed by.

    At its most simplistic interpretation (which may well be his) it is declaring that moral purity comes first. If distaste of the Saudis and their near comical strictures for women prevents cooperating with them to wipe out the camel-delighting Taliban then there is a child-like moral satisfaction, even while people you have no problem with are murdered in football stadia.

    But when you start making rules about what compromises you will make then you will be pilloried the impurity of every rule: “You accept x from them, but suddenly balk at y. Why do you accept one but not the other?”

    It takes a strong leader to unzip their fly and urinate nonchalantly and unconcernedly on the MSM, contemptuous of their ‘gotchas’.

    When an Australian politician learns to do this the ABC will be a beetle tossed on its back.

  62. hzhousewife

    Just remember …. this is the same dickhead who couldnt find a single person in Australia worthy of a knighthood … so he gonged Prince Philip.

    I’m curious to know whom you would have knighted, Adelagado, if you were able, at the time? Kevvie?

  63. Tel

    The greatest political achievement in Australia this century.

    And the other close candidates were…

  64. Sinclair, I remain in awe of your willingness to get down to the graveyard and dig up the political corpse of Tony Abbott, to be propped up and put on trial as if the corpse were responsible for the last year and a half of Liberal failures.

    Abbott was a dud. Malcolm – he of the agile mini-cities powered by fairy dust and defended by oiler subs under a New Federalism – is a far bigger dud. His comments in parliament about Cristal champagne etc may have electrified the commentariat, but the punters were left cold.

    Turnbull is the road to Shorten, which is why the ABC and chatterati indulge him. Only you, Savva and the weekday tennis ladies of Wentworth are failing to see it. Please, no more AbbottAbbottAbbott.

  65. Muddy

    Holy faecal matter! Why are we still dribbling about this, after how many months? How is it that corpse-fondlers can still show their face in public? It’s not simply a leadership issue. Yes, of course leadership is a big part of the problem, but a more acidic issue is the Diet Labor (Festering Corpse) Party itself. What point is a leader without reliable, passionate, effective followers?
    Come on people, have one last lick for nostalgia’s sake if you must, but then MOVE ON.
    (And please don’t tell me that “At least their not Shorten”). Would you like a chainsaw to the testicles or a rusty star-picket to the anus? Choices, choices.

  66. Muddy

    That would be ‘they’re’ rather than ‘their.’

  67. Texas Jack

    I’m willing to bet London to a brick Abbott was rolled on 18c by various weak knees in the party room and fuckwits in the then Cabinet, and opted to spin the back-down in the manner he did to protect all and sundry, including the weaklings. Taking the heat directly. Cleaning up the mess personally. The guy is as tough as they come. If you think he gets out of bed and decides he’ll lose a fight you haven’t been paying attention. Those who bash him over Prince Philip have lost all sense for an unsung hero, proportionality, and a guy who knew what he was doing would be controversial, but did it anyway.
    Turnbull and the senate horsetrading is not so much trading as a shameful case of prime ministerial arse-licking to get a win. Any win. At any fucking price. Weakening further the strains that are so bleeding obvious in our Parliament and fueling the pathetic metamorphosis of the Senate from what it should be, what it was designed to be, to what it is. A fucking putrid cesspit.
    At the end of the day Turnbull will slink off to whatever it is he does in the future. Abbott will hang around and face the music whatever tune may be playing.

  68. struth

    I have heard enough from Abbott.
    I have heard way too much from Lord Waffleworse.

    The Liberal party are a corpse that refuses to lie down.
    They will.

  69. iampeter

    I love when Sinclair trolls his own blog 🙂

    Also I agree, Tony Abbott is beyond parody.

    A lefty like Malcolm Turnbull is far more logical a leader for the big government, leftist Conservatives in Australian politics.

  70. Eddystone

    Abbott’s worth became more evident after he was rolled, and the Lib MPs began stampeding leftwards.

    Abbott had his hands full just trying to keep that lot somewhere in the vicinity of the political centre, plus he had the disgraceful media smears going non-stop.

    Yes he was a big disappointment.

    Turnbull has not been a disappointment to me, I expected him to be this hopeless. Actually he has been a little better than I expected, thanks to his near death experience at the last election.

  71. Makka

    Sinc’s man Mal is so bad he feels the need to resurrect the Abbott666Satan debil just to show how good Mal really really is.

    They are both turds in a coward’s party.The sooner the LNP implodes the better. It’s the only chance of seeing conservative Govt ever again in Australia.

  72. Tintarella di Luna

    The Liberal party are a corpse that refuses to lie down.

    It’s a Zombie

  73. Tintarella di Luna

    I’m willing to bet London to a brick Abbott was rolled on 18c by various weak knees in the party room and fuckwits in the then Cabinet, and opted to spin the back-down in the manner he did to protect all and sundry, including the weaklings.

    That is exactly what Abbott told me personally, I also asked him why did he appoint Natasha’s Just a Spoiler to be some effing Women and Girl’s Ambassador when the first words out of her mouth after the appointment were to bag him — he said two words in explanation — Julie Bitchop – enough said.

  74. Harald

    You should never do something wrong to achieve something that’s right.

    OK. So for Abbot that leaves:

    1. You can do right to achieve something right
    2. You can do right to achieve something wrong
    3. You can do wrong to achieve something wrong

    Now 1 & 3 in my humble opinion are not Abbott’s problem.
    His problem is 2: his misguided notion of what’s right can steer him wrong – and it did. More than once.

    But that still makes him the better candidate for PM than the current guy who does not look at the world in right versus wrong – or good versus evil. Because Turnbull does what all men do who have no real values to underpin their thinking: they waver when they should act, dither when they should decide, turn ABC-left because they need clean air, pander when they should remind ppl of their responsibilities, spend other ppl’s money when they should say no, arrogantly blab when they should listen, waffle when they should attack, etc..

    Oh, and I don’t want Abbot back.
    I want them both gone.
    Because they both suck.
    But it was blindingly obvious that Turnbull sucks worse and only the stupid needed the actual experience of having this dud as PM to see that.

  75. Ruprect

    Whereas Abbott is corrigible on 18C, I’m afraid Davidson is incorrigible on honest conservatism.
    Truly, Abbott abandoning the attempt to repeal 18C when it became obvious that his own party would betray the effort was a godsend to the pseudo-conservatives like the prof. and the paki-derm. Suddenly, they were transformed into champions of the rights of the for inferior classes.

  76. The Pugilist

    I would take OK over what we have now.

    Exactly. I reckon Abbott has learned from his mistakes. The deficit levy was the first. He knows now that if you open the door, the left will march through it. We need a head kicker. Abbott is the man. Dutton might be an acceptable substitute. Sinc, you need to accept you’ve backed an abject failure. Just repent and the cat will forgive you.
    PS is there any reason why you haven’t posted any serious economic content lately? Australia needs your economic skills. Your politics are shit! If I wanted that, I’d pay for a subscription to the AFR and read Phil Coorey.

  77. john constantine

    The boats were just postponed for a few years, already the airlifts are underway.

    Australia must import mass numbers of third world peasant tenants, to beat the housing cycle.

    Treasury mandates this.

  78. Tim Neilson

    Just remember …. this is the same dickhead who couldnt find a single person in Australia worthy of a knighthood … so he gonged Prince Philip.

    Oh FFS. Why do we have “Sir Peter Cosgrove” then? There are others as well.

    Gonging Prince Philip was a mundane piece of conventional diplomacy – Philip had the highest level gong, the new super-platinum version was being introduced and so Philip, as an international dignitary, got a free upgrade. Only drooling braying middle class pinko’s with their unswerving and infallible obsession with the trivial and superficial could possibly have given a rat’s arse.

    Don’t you understand why the middle class pinkos went apeshit over knighthoods? Two reasons.
    The first and obvious one is that they go howler monkey over Abbott666 by autopilot and if it wasn’t this it would have been “blue tie! blue tie!” or one of their equally constructive contributions to public debate.

    The second is more important. By putting knighthoods at the top of the totem pole Abbott was giving all upper echelon middle class pinko “celebrities” an atomic wedgie. They’d either have to be content with a second tier gong or accept a monarchical type award. Can’t you see the heads exploding? This would be one area that it would be difficult for the middle class pinkos to commandeer. They’d be left with one “Australian of the Year” gig to hand out to Australia’s champion grievance monger, and “AoY” isn’t even a title for day to day use like “Sir” so and so.

    No wonder the middle class pinkos went ballistic. Pity Abbott666 didn’t get support from his supposed allies.

  79. Makka

    I reckon Abbott has learned from his mistakes.
    Gawd , give this old chestnut a rest ffs. He’s learned nothing. His jelly back let him down. It’s over.

  80. Infidel Tiger

    Just remember …. this is the same dickhead who couldnt find a single person in Australia worthy of a knighthood … so he gonged Prince Philip.

    There hasn’t been a worthy Australian in at least 50 years.

    Prince Phillip is one of the greatest men in history.

  81. JC

    C.L.
    #2347305, posted on April 6, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    Abbott chickened out.
    Big fat chicken.
    Face the truth, people.

    On somethings he did. On somethings he was terrible and turned out to be a terrible chicken. On some others he did good. He did stop the boats which is mentioned above. He also bit the bullet somewhat and stopped the financial carnage with the car industry subsidies. He ended the carbonic tax, which when added to the rest of the subsidy crap gave Australia the highest mitigation costs in the world. He lowered the renewball target. He got rid of the mining tax. He negotiated some decent free trade agreements and on foreign policy there was no ambiguity where we stood in the middle east – with Israel. He also re-orientated our foreign policy towards Japan and India as a bulwark against the communist regime in China. These are reasonable achievements.

    I won’t mention the misuses because there are so many and they’re frequently discussed here.

  82. JC

    Makka

    Try to be a little more contemplative. It’s not good that you’re always sent at the back of the class for general misbehavior and showing a lack of subtlety

  83. Oh come on

    I clearly recall many Cats becoming incrementally more dismayed over the course of Too Late’s Prime Ministership as he welched on one conservative principle after another, often in some bizarre, quixotic attempt to curry favour with a segment of the electorate that will always despise him, no matter what. He truly seemed to believe it was worth putting 30 conservative-leaning votes in jeopardy in an effort to secure one non-conservative vote.

    Too Late was indeed a problem. But Malcolm Turnbull was never ever the solution. Trumble was in fact an even more objectionable version of what conservative voters hated about Abbott. I don’t think many people here were especially surprised when Trumble rolled Too Late, though. It might have upset them because Abbott really was the last hope of the Liberal Party, so his failure as its leader meant more than the career of some guy who once showed promise jumping the shark.

    But now I think very many people here have processed the inevitability of the demise of the Liberal Party. In fact, they would probably be more than willing to hasten that demise if they could – without any pangs of sentimental attachment – if it meant clearing the political space so a superior LP replacement could emerge and better oppose the upcoming Shorten/Plibershay reign. And, when this is toppled or collapses, that superior LP replacement would hopefully make a better fist of running the country than any of the ostensibly conservative clowns walking Canberra’s corridors.

    I am an optimist by nature, I confess.

  84. Sally

    As I recall, he (she) also prefers Malcolm to Tony. Is there anyone on the blog page of Catallaxy (The Oz) with worse judgement than him (her)?

    Backatya!

  85. A Lurker

    Abbott may have been a dud, but Turnbull clearly is a traitor.

    In hindsight, I will take a dud over a traitor any day.

  86. Senile Old Guy

    A lefty like Malcolm Turnbull is far more logical a leader for the big government, leftist Conservatives in Australian politics.

    Too true, sadly.

    Gonging Prince Philip was a mundane piece of conventional diplomacy – Philip had the highest level gong, the new super-platinum version was being introduced and so Philip, as an international dignitary, got a free upgrade. Only drooling braying middle class pinko’s with their unswerving and infallible obsession with the trivial and superficial could possibly have given a rat’s arse.

    No, it was an utterly stupid, out of nowhere, move with no upside. It was another Abbott move that gave all his critics a free kick.

  87. Glynn

    There was no will within cabinet and the Liberal party room to support Abbott’s desire to change to 18C. He was forced to back down as a result. Report the facts please. Since then, the AHRC cases against the Queensland students and Bill Leak have given the Liberals a reason to fight for this change, but sadly Labor and Greens do not believe in freedom of speech. They prefer to control what people say and think, which is Totalitarianism, not democracy. The ex Prime Minister of Denmark called this out on Q & A.

  88. Adelagado

    Senile Old Guy #2347775, posted on April 7, 2017 at 7:00 am
    Gonging Prince Philip was a mundane piece of conventional diplomacy …..

    No, it was an utterly stupid, out of nowhere, move with no upside. It was another Abbott move that gave all his critics a free kick.

    More than a free kick. It was like 10 ‘own goals’ against an opposition that shouldn’t even have been in contention. I remember being so stunned I genuinely thought it was a joke. I wasn’t the only one. The first major tilt to topple Abbott was just 2 weeks later.

    Turnbulls reasoning that Abbott had to go because the Libs had lost 30 polls in a row and were headed for the opposition benches was entirely reasonable. As much as I hate to say it Turnbull was the only viable opposition for victory.

    The real worry is that the Libs seem to have no alternatives to Turnbull. Maybe Andrew Hastie one day.

  89. Adelagado

    Damn. That should say ‘option’ in last line of the second last para… not ‘opposition’.

  90. Stan

    George Brandis – “the right to be a bigot” killed any changes to 18c.

    This.

  91. Jannie

    Turnbull is only a few more major political failures away from being turfed. He will be hung by his own measure of repeatedly poor polls.

    Like it or not, after the Libs are left in smoking ruins at the next election, Abbott will still be there. Then the three years of economic meltdown under Shorten will make Abbott look like a saviour. He will be the last man standing.

  92. politichix

    Garry
    #2347404, posted on April 6, 2017 at 7:04 pm
    Abbott May not have been perfect of even very good as PM but at least he is genuine and honest. Had he been at Lismore he wouldn’t have used the misery of this catastrophe to create a photo opportunity for himself by pretending to clean up an already clean floor – he would have actually got in and actually helped out. I’ll back a genuine man against a pretender any day. And as soon as Abbott is reinstated as PM I will switch my vote back to the coalition.

    100%

  93. Siltstone

    The Sinclair/Savva obsession with looking backwards merely highlights their increasing realisation that there is no Potential Greatness to be found with Turnbull at all, and that the is a complete dud bumbling towards electoral disaster. Drowning in denial, they flail around looking for anyone to blame (except Potential Greatness himself).

  94. The BigBlueCat

    Siltstone
    #2348258, posted on April 7, 2017 at 3:55 pm
    The Sinclair/Savva obsession with looking backwards merely highlights their increasing realisation that there is no Potential Greatness to be found with Turnbull at all, and that the is a complete dud bumbling towards electoral disaster. Drowning in denial, they flail around looking for anyone to blame (except Potential Greatness himself).

    It’s a rear-guard action by those fearful that TA might one day become leader of the LNP again once the LNP realises that being neo-leftists has no future and dooms them to the political wilderness; they are unable to compete with true leftists like the Greens and the ALP.

    And of course TA might lead the LNP once again – shades of Bob Menzies. Savva of course is deeply obsessed, and every word she writes about TA reflects that. One might say she’s unhinged.

  95. bystander

    As the actress said to Turnbull: ‘do to me what you are doing to Australia, but much slower’.

  96. Andrew

    Abbott stopped the boats. The greatest political achievement in Australia this century.

    Yes I will give him credit for that, and we should all be grateful. But he was a one trick pony.

    So, 1 more than Pres Trumble then?

  97. .

    I’m pretty critical of Abbott, he seems like was a sprinter rather than a marathon runner.

    He did good. No carbonic taxation. He signalled that entitlement on the public purse was a bad thing (for public servants, ex MPs and the indigent alike). I liked him on a personal level because even back when he was the Minister for Welfare*, he said that there would always be poor people – he was a realist and I thought he was trying to say that welfare in a lot of circumstances, in the longer run, is destructive and creates more poverty than it ameliorates.

    S18 is still relevant – why it could be how he comes back from the political dead, but I don’t like his chances since the LNP are so split and moved so far to the left and don’t support free speech.

    I can’t understand for the life of me why he started upping taxes – other than his DLP roots were too hard to leave behind in his youth.

    *Whatever the hell it is called.

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