Open Forum: April 15, 2017

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  1. feelthebern

    Nick, it’s at Homebush.
    I do remember paying 7 bucks for a lite beer last time I was there.
    Plus about the same for a hot dog that has seen better days.
    Ah, no wonder people stay at home to watch it on HD.

  2. Makka

    That dreadlock punch picture documents a profound truth.

    I’l agree with CL that it wasn’t pretty. However, there’s no denying she truly deserved it.

  3. feelthebern

    The royals are a pack of inbred, nazi loving, tax eaters.
    The sooner they are sent into exile the better.

  4. calli

    Abbott is embroidering what decent people tell him. Because real people express themselves far too bluntly for the rarefied atmosphere of Australian politics. It might hurt their precious little ears.

  5. Boambee John

    Bruce of N at 0953

    Not so sure that the Russians wouldn’t grab the chance to get greater control of the Bosphorous.

    It has been a long term Russian/Soviet/Russian ambition, and these things tend to get a momentum of tbeir own, regardless of changing circumstances.

    Also, the Russians are likely to want direct sea links to their Syrian naval bases.

    Interesting to watch developments.

  6. Gab

    A female punched in the face by a male is wrong? But, but, equaliddy, surely?!

  7. Infidel Tiger

    The Trump fan who punched a jockey-sized girl is now a target.
    And when he gets his lights punched out, he’ll deserve it.

    That’s a patriarchal paradigm you are representing.

    In these gender fluid times, I saw an angry man get his just desserts.

  8. stackja

    At the moment there is a choice of MT/BS/TA.

  9. C.L.

    Oopsa-daisy.
    Daily Mail running picture showing one of Kim’s “missiles” coming unglued during parade.

  10. Nick

    Testify, Bern.
    Homebush is worse. Lucky for you the Dogs have already played, or you’d be in for a real treat lol.
    The food there is extraordinarily bad, even in the members section. Beer wise, there’s a James Squire outlet on the Western side, though I think you might need to have a members’ pass to access it.

    Alternatively, you can park and eat in Newington and walk over. There’s a very good selection of Asian food there in particular.

  11. incoherent rambler

    Plus about the same for a hot dog that has seen better days.

    Hot dogs at sporting events are a retail outlet for second sex toys.

  12. Geriatric Mayfly

    The magazine racks at the supermarket are about to explode. Rush! Rush! Rush! Harry lets it all hang out regarding his lost life after Diana’s death. No one like to latter Lady to set off an avalanche of fake news.

  13. Infidel Tiger

    At the moment there is a choice of MT/BS/TA.

    It’s like a list of diseases.

  14. calli

    A female punched in the face by a male is wrong?

    Yes. It’s shameful.

  15. Tel

    A female punched in the face by a male is wrong? But, but, equaliddy, surely?!

    Example number 9165911 of leftist hypocrisy. If it hasn’t bothered them yet, this won’t register.

  16. Nick

    The royals are a pack of inbred, nazi loving, tax eaters.
    The sooner they are sent into exile the better.

    Last night the news reported that fashion sales to British designers, based on what Prince Williams’ children wore, was some $10 billion! Colour me surprised.

  17. incoherent rambler

    At the moment there is a choice of MT/BS/TA.

    It’s like a list of diseases.

    It IS a list of diseases.

  18. feelthebern

    The royals should be subject to a 90% land tax.

  19. struth

    The little bitch that got hit was innocent?
    Live by the sword, sweetie!

    The young man who punched her is in deep shit.
    He will need a bodyguard and I take it there would be thousands of death threats on social media.

    How many times did we see women at Trump rallies being physically assaulted?
    Google it and it won’t take five seconds to bring up terrible images of the women bashed.
    And they weren’t fighting.
    They hadn’t lined up with the men for a bit of biffo.
    A bit of scalping, in this banshees own words.
    She, the other men, and any other females lined up to fight, deserve all they get.
    Live by the sword , die by the sword.

  20. calli

    Hypocrisy on both sides.

    The real bruises carry a little more weight than the painted ones.

  21. struth

    Where is the hypocrisy on both sides Calli?

  22. Makka

    The little bitch that got hit was innocent?

    I don’t recall that being mentioned.

  23. Snoopy

    Oopsa-daisy.
    Daily Mail running picture showing one of Kim’s “missiles” coming unglued during parade.

    I watched a report of the parade by a CNN reporter on location. He was stumbling over a description of the ICBM’s specifically pointing out that the carriers had eight axles which indicated that the missiles carried a lot of fuel which gave them the range to hit the US. It seemed obvious me that he was simply repeating something provided by the NK’s. Not a very convincing performance.

  24. calli

    We are meant to be struck with the horror of the lovely blonde Swede covered in bruises because evil “immigrants”.

    Yet we applaud a thug punching a horrid dready-girl in the face because dunno.

  25. incoherent rambler

    I am bemused by the reactions to video clips in the phone camera age.

    The chattering classes get to safely observe events they would never experience in the pre-digital age.

  26. Snoopy

    The little bitch that got hit was innocent?

    She was dressed to kill for a Tindr assignation and simply took a wrong turn.

  27. Bruce of Newcastle

    Not so sure that the Russians wouldn’t grab the chance to get greater control of the Bosphorous.

    Yep, they would.

    Istanbul is full of Sunni true believers though. The plebs in the countryside go there to get jobs, just like they go to Germany to get jobs. No way that you could clear them out of that city, and if you don’t control Istanbul you can’t control the Bosphorus.

    The western coastal areas which voted ‘no’ are the home of the secularized lefties. They haven’t so much gone to places like Germany since those areas are the more prosperous parts of the country. They aren’t likely to form an independence movement like Donetsk since the secular left are pacifists – it’s part of their platform these days. They’re prepared to demonstrate on the streets (for now), but they aren’t likely to arm up like the Kurds.

  28. C.L.
    #2356273, posted on April 17, 2017 at 9:51 am
    The Trump fan who punched a jockey-sized girl is now a target.
    And when he gets his lights punched out, he’ll deserve it.

    The jockey sized girl was practicing what the left has hidden behind for years – the strong moral values and conventions of western civilisation.
    Preaching sexual equality, she attacks verbally and physically, assuming her opponents will play by the old rules. No hitting women. Protect women and children. Act civilised.
    She will be OK. After all, haven’t women stormed the barriers of male dominated careers such as fire fighting and dangerous police work?
    She will be OK. Hasn’t her family protected her from life’s travails for her whole life?
    She will be OK. She has seen Hillary loot the country with no finger raised against her.
    But one man isn’t listening. He has seen her violence and will react violently. Bang! That’s equality.

    She will be OK. Her pain will go and she will have learned that actions have consequences.

  29. Top Ender

    Speaking of Diana Spencer, we will be subject to reams of print and hours of TV when the 20th anniversary of her death comes up on 31 August this year.

  30. Snoopy

    Speaking of Diana Spencer, we will be subject to reams of print and hours of TV when the 20th anniversary of her death comes up on 31 August this year.

    To ask the question is to answer it.

  31. Infidel Tiger

    We are meant to be struck with the horror of the lovely blonde Swede covered in bruises because evil “immigrants”.

    Yet we applaud a thug punching a horrid dready-girl in the face because dunno.

    The rules have changed. We owe no civility to those who don’t share our values.

    The evil slut deserved a kicking. Someone needs to teach that bloke how to throw a better right.

  32. struth

    We are meant to be struck with the horror of the lovely blonde Swede covered in bruises because evil “immigrants”.

    Yet we applaud a thug punching a horrid dready-girl in the face because dunno.

    Are you seriously saying that innocent Swedish women being raped is the same as this little mole who lined up for a fight?
    A bloody big hurdle you are trying to jump there, Calli.

  33. BrettW

    For those who were following the discussion last night about Safe Sex in schools and who was responsible today’s Cut and Paste in the Oz might be of interest.

  34. incoherent rambler

    moll – n 1. the girlfriend of a gangster

    Probably not the right word, even when spelt correctly.

    Unless you meant –

    Mole \Mole\, n. [L. mola.]
    A mass of fleshy or other more or less solid matter generated
    in the uterus.
    [1913 Webster]

  35. Jessie

    CL @9.59
    Is Abbott finally identifying with Pauline H and the plebs?
    Lordy lordy.

  36. struth

    moll – n 1. the girlfriend of a gangster

    Jarst u werd of warnun IR.

    I am an Incoherent Rambler.

    Mi spelling gets werse when I’m undar presher.

  37. C.L.

    No rules have changed.
    You don’t punch girls.
    There were about 200 leftist males on offer for that bloke to square off with.
    He chose the girl. He is a coward.

  38. notafan

    Cut and paste isn’t infallible.

    Started by Brumby continued by Napthine then rolled out nationally in 2013 with an official launch in 2014.

    Gillard was spruiking anti-bullying in 2010 as Education Minister, and there were other smaller state based programmes before the Foundation for Young Australians got the $8 million and they were always working hand in hand with LGTI bodies.

    FYA turns over around $50 mill a year, not bad for an NGO that most people have never heard of.


    cut and paste today beware the paywall

  39. struth

    Moyne two.

    I meant mole as in a burrowing creature that undermines solid structures above.but there are many ways of looking at it

  40. Infidel Tiger

    No the bitch came at him. He was left with no choice, although he needs to rotate his hips in future.

  41. .

    struth
    #2356288, posted on April 17, 2017 at 10:03 am
    I love the confusion last night regarding who is our queen.

    No confusion at all mein loon.

    All caused by governments disobeying the rule of our constitution.
    Nothing can be changed without a referendum.

    Wrong.

    s 51 (xxxviii) the exercise within the Commonwealth, at the request or with the concurrence of the Parliaments of all the States directly concerned, of any power which can at the establishment of this Constitution be exercised only by the Parliament of the United Kingdom or by the Federal Council of Australasia;

    It is therefore my opinion that the Queen of England is the queen of the commonwealth countries, and we are one of them, as stated in the original constitution.

    We were always ruled by the British, never the English. She is our Queen but her legal personage is separate to each realm.

    Dot will disagree and all those wishing to be free of this country being called The Commonwealth of Australia will look for loop holes as our politicians have done to grab more power, but on matters such as the Australia act, where was the referendum?

    I quite like the name Commonwealth. Good name for a Federation and a Republic. The constitution is a flawed document and if you want to hold the government to account you need really radical reform as the High Court has done a lot of damage through the external affairs and corporations power, but also the incidental and nationhood powers.

    Oh no you don’t need one, because England and the Queen agreed with the Australia act.
    But did she?
    There has been many articles written about the signing.
    The Australia act would have to be of the more sinister little back room deals that ever took place.
    Think about when it was done.

    It was done at the insistence of all Australian State Parliaments, the Commonwealth Parliament and the UK Parliament, agreed to by Thatcher, Hawke, our Governor General and Her Majesty.

    It was done quite publicly. There is no conspiracy. Federally Australia had independence in name but the States did not. The States and Commonwealth agreed that appeals to the PC were no longer appropriate.

    It was also done after some problematic cases and legislation regarding offshore jurisdiction.

    If you refer to the 1975 dismissal, that is how it should have worked and will continue to work. The Queen wrote a letter back saying she could not intervene.

    Australians were called British troops and Tommies.
    Australians thought of themselves as British and rightfully so.

    The loved the Queen and royal visits are big to this day but were huge events back then.
    WTF happened, all you experts?

    That’s nice.

  42. notafan

    And wiki says

    The primary activity of the Safe Schools Coalition is the Safe Schools Program that was developed to give support to teachers and schools who had been seeking assistance in the creation of a more inclusive environment for LGBTIQ students and their families.[10] The program began in Victorian schools in 2010 and expanded nationwide in 2013. The Safe Schools Program was the first of its kind in Australia. Schools are encouraged to customise the implementation of resources which are provided.[1][10]

  43. lotocoti

    Probably not the right word…

    Slunt may be more contemporaneous.
    If you turn up for a fight …

  44. War has been declared on alt-right Twitter. Bill Mitchell is attacking both Cucknovich and PJW. Tell us USSR, which side is the Satanist globalist rock spider cabal in this one? That 100-day mark is making Trumpkins nervous, seeing as he has exactly zero lasting accomplishments of his own to trumpet.

    Obama barely has to lift a finger these days to see his fiendish plans realised.

  45. notafan

    The Safe Schools program began in Victoria three years earlier. It was funded federally in the dying days of the Rudd Labor government, and announced by then education minister Bill Shorten and finance minister Penny Wong, a week before the September 7 election.

    When Tony Abbott’s government took office after the election, the contracts had been signed.


    What happened to the Safe Schools program

  46. notafan

    There was also some concern in the Tasmanian LGBTI community that the program relied too heavily on bringing in outside organisations to lead it, rather than building capacity within the state education department itself. As a result of such concerns, the Tasmanian government signed a memorandum of understanding with the Safe Schools Coalition. In that state, the program was restricted to the professional development of educators, not rolled out directly into classrooms.

    See what we mean about the luvvie gravy train?

  47. Mitchell has a point. Cucknovich threatened Trump that he would drop a bunch of oppo research if Bannon got boned. The WH is so severely factionalised that it can’t get anything done, just like Congress. The wheels are falling off and we’re only three months in.

  48. calli

    Are you seriously saying that innocent Swedish women being raped is the same as this little mole who lined up for a fight?

    Are you seriously telling me that the “Swedish” girl at the protest (there to extract an emotional, protective response) was genuinely bruised and beaten up?

  49. Nick

    The wheels are falling off and we’re only three months in.

    Deluded.

  50. Libby Zee

    The royals should be subject to a 90% land tax.

    Get back to Larvatus Prodeo, Fran.

  51. struth

    Lets get a bit of perspective.

    The Antifa are dressed in black with their faces covered, you’d be hard pressed to pick the sexes anyway, especially in that situation.

    When a female decides to not be a woman anymore and lines up to fight alongside men, she must own the consequences.
    You don’t hit ladies, women or girls.
    If they are lined up in a fight with men, they are none of the above.
    She went out to collect scalps and physically attacked people, and was attacking the bloke that hit her, and people here believe she should be treated as if she were some lady?
    These bitches are fucking the world because we have let them get away with everything and they’ve done it under the protection of the very men and culture they despise.

    I think we may need to stop living in the age of chivalry , and a little bit of reality like that may stop the real beatings and abuse they will cop when they insanely bring on moo-slum men as their masters.

    Right now, the reality is that they are screaming because a girl got hit.
    Yesterday they were as tough as men and were letting everyone know it.
    This well deserved defensive punch might just have woken some of (though I doubt it) the insane female population to the fact that they can only be the equals of,( and with the consent of) good men.
    They are physically not born that way.

  52. calli

    The biggest hurdle I’ve seen jumped is that it’s okay to punch a woman in the face. The right type of woman of course.

    The manly art of self- control must be one of the rules that have changed.

  53. notafan

    The program’s federal funding was allocated by the Labor government in 2013, when an $8 million investment was announced for the program convenor, Foundation for Young Australians.

    Where is MV ?

    So much for caretaker mode.


    Safe Schools: Malcolm Turnbull requests investigation into program helping LGBTI students

  54. calli

    New Fred!

    Bless you, Stacks! And here I was getting cranky. 😃

  55. notafan

    The main focus of the organisation is to challenge bullying and discrimination within schools. The program began in Victoria in 2010 and started receiving federal funding of $8 million in 2013 before being formally launched across all states and territories except the Northern Territory in 2014.


    green left weekly

  56. notafan

    Bill Shorten has confirmed Labor’s commitment to financing the Safe Schools Coalition, assigning an additional $6 million to the sexual and gender diversity program.

    The grant, contained within the ALP’s just-released policy costings, represents a $2m-a year allocation, restoring funding for the program to the previous level initiated under Labor in 2013.


    Federal election 2016: Labor commits $6m for Safe Schools

  57. struth

    s 51 (xxxviii) the exercise within the Commonwealth, at the request or with the concurrence of the Parliaments of all the States directly concerned, of any power which can at the establishment of this Constitution be exercised only by the Parliament of the United Kingdom or by the Federal Council of Australasia;

    of any power which can at the establishment of this Constitution

    Which means any power that they have while working under the constitution.

    That section is all about the areas the federal government has control of, like defence and taxation.
    The section you quote basically says that if the states and the British parliament agree on an area that will become the responsibility of the federal government it can.
    It doesn’t give anyone the right to change the constitution without referendum.
    The British just wanted an out from the problems of the grizzling states and were not tied to our constitution.
    Our constitution is a contract with the Queen, not the privy council.
    Yes it was done publicly.
    It was promoted as mere formality.
    But it wasn’t done correctly, and in accordance with the constitution.
    Many have grave doubts obout the signature, and wether conspiracy theorists or not, referendums and proper representative government following the constitution, would never have allowed those conspiracy theories to rise in the first place.

    So which part of our constitution can be changed by the parliament of the United Kingdom then or now?
    None.
    The Queen cannot change our constitution without our consent through a referendum.

  58. struth

    The manly art of self- control must be one of the rules that have changed.

    Who brought that upon themselves?

  59. .

    It doesn’t give anyone the right to change the constitution without referendum.

    The Australia Acts never did that, as you contend.

    Our constitution is a contract with the Queen, not the privy council.

    No.

    Many have grave doubts obout the signature

    No there isn’t.

    The Queen cannot change our constitution without our consent through a referendum.

    No one has done that.

  60. On a more serious note, it seems Erdogan got his referendum through, basically granting him almost absolute dictatorial power from 2019. That worries me a whole lot more than what is happening in North Korea, Iran and Syria combined.

  61. vr

    JC — from what I hear they get a pretty sweet deal.
    On a different issue, the lefties are upset about NYT hiring Bret Stephens. Calling for a boycott and such.

  62. egg_

    STFU Abbott. You had your chance, a very good opportunity. You fkd it up royally and created the perfect situation for Labor to take over. Piss of, really. Just piss off.

    Relevance deprivation syndrome?
    The electorate needs another dose of Labor to appreciate what a true Right Wing party has to offer.

  63. Tel

    Federally Australia had independence in name but the States did not. The States and Commonwealth agreed that appeals to the PC were no longer appropriate.

    The Commonwealth is a creation of the states, so it cannot have additional powers that never existed in the first place.

    If you grab your own shoes and yank very hard you might attempt to fly that way, but I’m guessing it won’t work.

  64. Andrew M.

    MV said:
    > the Abbott government’s approval and funding of the Ross Ward Safe Schools program.

    notafan cited:
    >> It was funded federally in the dying days of the Rudd Labor government, and announced by then education minister Bill Shorten and finance minister Penny Wong, a week before the September 7 election.

    Isn’t this all just a symptom of the conventions on continuity of government, or worse that the agenda is fixed and all elections are democracy theatre that won’t affect the trajectory?

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