Wednesday Forum: April 19, 2017

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  1. john constantine

    In economies where robots and artificial intelligence software are going to do all the basic jobs, why is their left so hellbent on mass importation of herds of people that cannot compete with tech?.

    Cannon fodder for left wing militias in the streets and branch stacking for left wing deconstructuralists in their back rooms seems to be the reason for their addiction.

    Tax robots to fund voteherd welfare plantations, how could it possibly not end well?.

  2. Marcus Classis

    Thanks Notafan.

  3. john constantine

    The troubles in their Venezuela are of course due to Trump failing to correctly subsidise Social Justice in South America.

  4. Empire

    There needs to be a list published of every Leftist and academic who ever supported this regime, with boycotts against their employers until they sack them.

    It’s a murky trail. You can get lost down the rabbit hole, or you can go direct to Rome. Take a look at Coral Wynter. I bet she has a ripper list.

  5. Snoopy

    Many who grew up in Sydney still have fond childhood memories of alighting a train at Central Station to the smells of beer brewing at nearby Kent Brewery.

    You had to be there.

  6. Libby Zee

    I didn’t ask for your opinion new fish.
    I don’t care about your opinion.

    That bothers me not at all. For what it’s worth, I believe you are a parody.

  7. .

    Some people just can’t help playing the victimhood card. It’s just their thing.

    If you wanna wear a crown of thorns around here, expect a crucifixion.

  8. But remember, Venezuela’s GDP is only down about 10% on last year, according “economists”.

    Marxist accounting practices only consider communally owned means of production.

  9. Antonin D

    I thought it was sweet of the usually stern JC to show that support for P. Really lovely.
    I don’t know anything about Walgett, but I’ve liked P’s stories. I did wonder why she used the letter ‘P’ to write under. Maybe it’s P for Patricia or Penelope or Pamela. But it isn’t my business.

  10. Bruce of Newcastle

    My conversations with P have been fine and entertaining.
    I don’t know why Cats want to be so vindictive.
    It seems simple to me: just take everyone on face value and respond to content.
    Politely and in good humour.
    Maybe I’m simple.

  11. test pattern

    Putin Linked Think Tank Drew up Paln to Sway 2016 Election:Documents

    ‘The first Russian institute document was a strategy paper written last June that circulated at the highest levels of the Russian government but was not addressed to any specific individuals.
    It recommended the Kremlin launch a propaganda campaign on social media and Russian state-backed global news outlets to encourage U.S. voters to elect a president who would take a softer line toward Russia than the administration of then-President Barack Obama, the seven officials said.
    A second institute document, drafted in October and distributed in the same way, warned that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was likely to win the election. For that reason, it argued, it was better for Russia to end its pro-Trump propaganda and instead intensify its messaging about voter fraud to undermine the U.S. electoral system’s legitimacy and damage Clinton’s reputation in an effort to undermine her presidency, the seven officials said.’

    http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/putin-linked-think-tank-drew-up-plan-to-sway-2016-us-election-documents

    Russian Institute for Strategic Studies

    https://en.riss.ru/

  12. entropy

    Venezuela is just another example of corrupt politicians abusing the noble goal of socialism for their own ends. It’s happened every time for over a century now. True socialism will only ever be properly achieved when a non politician, like me, gets to implement it under my watch.

  13. Empire

    A meeting Dexter would face with trepidation.

    Legendary serial killer verses pedant with a 1.5 wood. My money’s on Dexter.

  14. test pattern

    Putin Linked Think Tank Drew up Plan to Sway 2016 Election:Documents

    ‘The first Russian institute document was a strategy paper written last June that circulated at the highest levels of the Russian government but was not addressed to any specific individuals.
    It recommended the Kremlin launch a propaganda campaign on social media and Russian state-backed global news outlets to encourage U.S. voters to elect a president who would take a softer line toward Russia than the administration of then-President Barack Obama, the seven officials said.
    A second institute document, drafted in October and distributed in the same way, warned that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was likely to win the election. For that reason, it argued, it was better for Russia to end its pro-Trump propaganda and instead intensify its messaging about voter fraud to undermine the U.S. electoral system’s legitimacy and damage Clinton’s reputation in an effort to undermine her presidency, the seven officials said.’

    http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/putin-linked-think-tank-drew-up-plan-to-sway-2016-us-election-documents

  15. Notafan

    Well done BoN.

    Never condemned Grig for his vile ‘old lady smell’ comments iirc.

  16. Stimpson J. Cat

    It’s a murky trail. You can get lost down the rabbit hole, or you can go direct to Rome. Take a look at Coral Wynter. I bet she has a ripper list.

    The Greenleft Weekly is a treasure trove.
    I am looking for a definitive Raven or Di Natale quote for Fisky to use on Twitter.

    Just read this classic…

  17. Makka

    We don’t need incentives. We just need all the parasitic boots off our necks and their hands out of our pockets, we’ll take care of the rest ourselves!

    Getting the parasites out of our pockets is one of the biggest incentives, Howard.

  18. P

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2360663, posted on April 21, 2017 at 7:15 pm

    My conversations with P have been fine and entertaining.
    I don’t know why Cats want to be so vindictive.
    It seems simple to me: just take everyone on face value and respond to content.
    Politely and in good humour.
    Maybe I’m simple.

    You are anything but simple Bruce.

    I still today pray for the Church in Kenya, and in Walgett.
    Who knows how far reaching our comments on here may be.

  19. Bruce of Newcastle

    Do you ever look at stuff and wonder how it got there?

    One of the four had the whole MSM on his side.
    The others just had Finagle*.
    Now the MSM has dumped his ass.

    * Finagle’s law:

    The perversity of the universe always tends toward a maximum.

  20. Gab

    Oh goody! It’s a competition to see who can be more sanctimonious. I reckon we add a drinking game to it. Every time someone claims to be more holier-than-thou, take a swig of your favourite tipple.

  21. Leigh Lowe

    Regarding the kid who got the Cubs tickets from his Dad, it will play out like this:-
    He will get to appear on the Ellen Degenerate show. Ellen will ask him what he did to help out his Dad on the farm. The kid will say that they earmarked some calves and sprayed some crops. She will ask him what he did at the baseball, and the kid will say that he ate three hot-dogs and a large Coke.
    Within a day, the MSM will discover that earmarking calves without a local anaesthetic upsets Madonna therefore is, like, soooo wrong, and that Dad uses Monsanto sprays. We will then have a “parenting expert” questioning whether hot-dogs and Coke should be part of a balanced diet.
    The jury will return their verdict within 6 hours. Dad is a dangerous parent and the kid should be in care.

  22. Tailgunner

    Take that Stimpson!

  23. Stimpson J. Cat

    That bothers me not at all. For what it’s worth, I believe you are a parody.

    Of course you do.
    You lack the imagination to appreciate the originality of a mentally ill cartoon cat who actually is a mentally ill Cat who behaves like he is in a cartoon.
    Just take a look at yourself.
    You even changed your name when Sinc asked you to.
    You are literally Gollum, and Catallaxy is your Precious.
    Sad.

  24. Stimpson J. Cat

    Take that Stimpson!

    Don’t really like them, I saw Robbie Williams live once though.

  25. Bruce of Newcastle

    Every time someone claims to be more holier-than-thou, take a swig of your favourite tipple.

    Tonight the armour plating is Joya del Rio Toro 2015.
    A pretty good tempranillo. Goes well with a mite of Romano cheese.

  26. Leigh Lowe

    I am at the Bunnings at the designated spot.
    Where are youse all?

  27. test pattern

    There was movement at the oasis for the word had got around..

    ‘Then we heard of a race we had hoped for,
    To which was summoned cavalry from every horizon.
    I said to the groom: “Lead [the horse] and hasten,
    Perhaps in the race we may set it free.”
    We ascended the hill with it, we didn’t go to the plain.
    As it rose to the rough parts of it, its rocks cried,
    Like bereaved women lamenting their sons.
    In the clangor that defied detailed description,
    Rose a sound like pipers and a tambourine with bells,
    Till we came to a region with horses ready to run
    As fast as folding a cloak that had been chosen.
    We saw their act and did likewise.
    We ran, the running strengthening the horse’s muscles
    As we lessened its fat without making it thin.
    When most of the night had passed,
    Its forelegs having followed its hind legs,
    We rose to a great terror with fear
    Stretching a rope at a start line made straight.
    We said: Bring this horse forward and that one back,
    Urging everyone with an open shirt.
    The five-foot jockey riding the horse,
    Understood mentally, race being his job,
    So he overtook the other horses set free
    And a cloud of dust rose in the air.
    The horses fluffed up the dust they didn’t create,
    One time being covered by it, another time treading it,
    Like sand grouses overhead, their leader swooping down
    Unconcerned but with heightened fear.
    It set an example to whomever would learn,
    Flown by the jinn one time, and walked by them another.
    Its hind quarters swam as its front floated,
    And the jockey was quiet and refrained from kicking it.
    He gave it free rein, and didn’t ask anything of it.
    It was as if he clothed it with froth,
    Or with the cotton of carders, had it not been wet.
    You would think the horse was given musk to drink.
    We then received the jockey as he alighted
    From the horse’s high shoulders with unadorned neck,
    Whose belly was large and whose back was wide.
    The other horses arrived as we decorated it
    And the jinn surrounded it and kissed it.’

    https://ia801307.us.archive.org/8/items/TheUniqueNecklaceAlIqdAlFaridtheGreatBooksOfIslamicCivilizationVolumeI/TheUniqueNecklaceAl-iqdAl-faridtheGreatBooksOfIslamicCivilization-VolumeI.pdf

  28. Brexit: EU scuppers Theresa May plan to end European Court’s UK power
    New guidelines from the EU show the bloc will demand the court’s jurisdiction is maintained

  29. Anne

    Every time someone claims to be more holier-than-thou, take a swig of your favourite tipple.

    Did anyone else but a Bible this week?

    Gulp…

  30. Tintarella di Luna

    I am at the Bunnings at the designated spot.
    Where are youse all?

    Well I don’t know where youse all are but I’m definitely here.

  31. max

    If the French don’t get out in droves to vote for Marine Le P after today then nothing can save la belle France.

    It’s a worry.

    Yes, I know she’s a socialist. You’ve gotta start somewhere.

  32. C.L.

    The leftist fake news idiots at The Australian are ridiculing Scott Brown on their front page.
    No more than a male model – ha-dee-ha-ha.
    A Tufts graduate (cum laude) and JD (Boston College), he was also awarded for military service in the aftermath of 9/11. His boyhood was marred by tragedy – which he overcame.
    Now go and look at how The Australian are ‘reporting’ news of his appointment as ambassador to New Zealand. Front page header: Centrefold’s diplomatic post.

  33. Stimpson J. Cat

    Leigh is in the disabled toilets.

  34. Tintarella di Luna

    New guidelines from the EU show the bloc will demand the court’s jurisdiction is maintained

    Hope she tells ’em to go to hell

  35. Baldrick

    Gab
    #2360667, posted on April 21, 2017 at 7:18 pm
    Do you ever look at stuff and wonder how it got there?

    Hahaha chuckle, chuckle, snort!

  36. Bruce of Newcastle

    There was movement at the oasis for the word had got around.

    Poetry from al-Kipling!
    Would’ve worked better with camels in place of horses.

  37. Anne

    Don’t be cheeky, Antonin. 😉

  38. Leigh Lowe

    I am in aisle 14 near the mops and buckets.

  39. Anne

    Do you ever look at stuff and wonder how it got there?

    LOL.

    Clockwise: Accident, Accident, Accident, Goldman Sachs.

  40. calli

    Leigh! You knows the Cats will congregate in Power Tools!

  41. Antonin D

    Those “I am in aisle 14” comments are fascinating. He could really be there.

  42. Beef

    Every time someone claims to be more holier-than-thou, take a swig of your favourite tipple.

    Can I help the pisspots out? I stopped drinking alcohol quite some time ago!
    .

  43. Snoopy

    And the jinn surrounded it and kissed it

    Steady on, oldsalt. This is a family blog.

  44. Copenhagen IN FLAMES: Denmark hit by arson attacks as rampaging thugs remain on the lose

    EXCLUSIVE: ARSONISTS thugs are still on the lose as Copenhagen police are struggling to end a month long car-fire rampage.

  45. Stimpson J. Cat

    ATTENTION!
    Rake fight aisle 12.

  46. Delta A

    I am in aisle 14 near the mops and buckets.

    I thought the Bunnings Soiree was scheduled for Sunday.

    LL, you might need to have a stern chat with your social organiser.

  47. Stimpson J. Cat

    Steady on, oldsalt. This is a family blog.

    Literally jinned up.

  48. Fisky

    Tommy Robinson
    @TRobinsonNewEra

    Who remembers when Paris was known as the city of love & romance. Now it’s simply known as the city of terror & war thanks Islam
    9:42 AM – 20 Apr 2017

  49. Gab

    EXCLUSIVE: ARSONISTS thugs are still on the lose as Copenhagen police are struggling to end a month long car-fire rampage.

    Those damn Presbyterians!

  50. Bruce of Newcastle

    TP – Sorry, I was being a little unserious.
    Here is a nice article on Indo after the election from the Oz’s Amanda Hodge which I read today.

    Anies beats Ahok: Jakarta election stokes fears over Islamists

    “This is a very uncertain time, which is not a good thing in Indonesia.”

    And an uncertain time in Indonesia is surely not a good thing for Australia.

    The Islam disease is overwhelming Pancasila the same way it has overwhelmed Ataturkism in Turkey.
    If you have stuff in Indo I suggest you sell it up and get out.

  51. calli

    Every time someone claims to be more holier-than-thou, take a swig of your favourite tipple.

    I’m holier than thou!

    Cheers! 🍸🍸🍸

  52. Tom

    Do you ever look at stuff and wonder how it got there?

    You are our queen, Gabriella.

    Did Hungary ever have Roller Derby?

  53. Moslem sought redemption, France edges towards Martial Law

    Paris Police Shooting: Attacker Was French, Had Long Criminal Record
    …P
    rime Minister Bernard Cazeneuve also confirmed Friday that pre-existing arrangements that 50,000 police and 7,000 military personnel would be deployed for security during this weekend’s elections.

  54. john constantine

    Like their erdogan in turkey, the left in Venezuela will now be free to do a loyalty purge.

    Arm the Apex Predator left wing militias of their lefty socialist paradise, denounce the ‘wealthy’ regime opponents as legitimate non-persons and let it all go to hell in a handbasket.

  55. Leigh Lowe

    I thought the Bunnings Soiree was scheduled for Sunday.

    I knew that.

  56. Gab

    The Islam disease is overwhelming Pancasila the same way it has overwhelmed Ataturkism in Turkey.
    If you have stuff in Indo I suggest you sell it up and get out.

    Wonder how long it will be before they start sending “refugees” here by boat? I reckon a couple of years when ALP get back in.

  57. egg_

    I am in aisle 14 near the mops and buckets.

    ‘Cleaner to aisle 14… oh,wait…’

  58. Leigh Lowe

    Do we have a name for the French shooter yet? Jean-Claude? Pierre? Maurice? What is it?

  59. Delta A


    I thought the Bunnings Soiree was scheduled for Sunday.

    I knew that.

    Yeah, sure.

  60. Gab

    Yes, Tom. Believe they still do.

  61. Monstie is hiding in the green aisle reading Derrida’s Postmodernism.

  62. test pattern

    A nice story about Al Akhtal, the famous Arab Christian poet

    ‘One day, when Akhtal came to recite a brilliant panegyric, the prince asked, “Why don’t you become a Muslim?”

    “I will,” said the poet, laughing, “so long as you grant me the use of wine and an exemption from Ramadan.”

    Abd-al Malik, whose proposal was serious, took this ribaldry badly. “Know,” he said, “that once you become a Muslim, if you neglect even one of the obligations of Islam, I’ll have you beheaded.”

    Unfazed, Akhtal responded with these verses:

    “No! I will never observe the fast of Ramadan, nor eat the flesh of sacrifices.
    Never will I drive a young and robust camel towards the valley of Mecca in the time of pilgrimage.
    Never will I cry out like a donkey, “Come! To prayer!”
    But I will continue to drink the blessed liquor, and to prostrate myself at daybreak.”

    “But,” said the Caliph, “what attraction has this wretched drink for you?”

    “Sire,” replied Akhtal, “when I drink then I don’t worry about you any more than about the strap of my sandal.”

    “Improvise some verses on this thought,” said the Caliph, decidedly in a bad mood, “or I will lift your head off from your shoulders!” The poet had to comply; but luckily in this matter he was not taken off-guard:

    If my wish makes me take two goes to empty three cups of a generous vintage, I get up, dragging the folds of my robe as if I was your master, O Master of the Faithful.’

    Journal Asiatique

  63. Makka

    The perpetrator of the attack in Champs Elysees in central Paris is Abu Yusuf the Belgian and he is one of the Islamic State’s fighters,” IS claimed in a statement by the jihadists’ propaganda agency Amaq.

  64. Gab

    Amusing ad comparing coal to renewables:

    Don’t bother reading the comments. All hate and filth by ‘tards who think baseload power is not needed.

  65. calli

    Leigh is doing valuable reccie, you doubters.

    That’s my excuse for lurking at Bunnings and I’m lending it to him.

  66. cohenite

    Fisky

    #2360641, posted on April 21, 2017 at 6:57 pm

    Dear oh dear. Warren Mundine put his name to this piece of garbage???

    Dear President Chávez,

    We, the undersigned citizens of Australia, would like to extend a warm invitation for you to visit our country. We have watched developments in Venezuela with great interest. We have been impressed by the great effort that your government has taken to improve the living standards of the majority of Venezuelans.

    What a list; some of the most hateful and hating bastards currently befouling Australia. The list should be sent to Mundine who would shit his dacks at seeing his name with the rest of these vermin.

    The list should also be sent to Pauline and Bernardi .

  67. Fisky

    Theresa May’s promise to end the European Court’s jurisdiction in the UK has hit an immediate block after it emerged the EU will demand its power is upheld after Brexit.

    Detailed draft negotiating guidelines reveal the European Council wants the court’s UK role to remain, in particular when it comes to preserving the rights of EU citizens in Britain.

    One thing is becoming clear. There is absolutely no point negotiating with the EU. No deal acceptable to the UK will ever be struck.

    The UK just needs to spend the next 2 years pretending to negotiate with the EU while they prepare for a complete break with no deal. They should also consider a substantial military build-up to seize any assets/territory they might dispute with the EU.

    This is going to be a complete and possibly violent exit, so might as well use the time until 2019 to prepare for that.

  68. john constantine

    Their Venezuela has armed street gangs to act as judge, jury and executioner of regime opponents.

    In australia, their abc has a taxfunded billion dollars a year to run show trials of their opponents and remove the social licence to have political rights from tories.

    In australia, left wing militias can dynamite power plants and deindustrialise vast swathes of the country.

    In australia, Stalinist Transvestites can run school programs that inculcate the values of Stalinist Transvestism in the nation’s children.

    In australia, the State can import criminal street gangs, to roam and ravage the streets until the proles demand all-intrusive Judge Dredd Big State policing.

    At least the fuckers in Venezuela are upfront honest about being fuckers.

    Wait until little lapbanded Sloppy Bill gets to go all St Hugo Ibn Castro on our poor bastard country.

  69. Bruce of Newcastle

    Al Akhtal was a guy with big swinging balls.
    😀

  70. C.L.

    Theresa May’s promise to end the European Court’s jurisdiction in the UK has hit an immediate block after it emerged the EU will demand its power is upheld after Brexit.

    Or what?

  71. Leigh Lowe

    Time spent at Bunnings is never wasted.
    Where else can you go looking for a packet of screws and leave 3 hours later with a chainsaw, a trailer jockey-wheel, a tin of mystery paint from Dulux Death Row and a sausage in bread?

  72. JC

    C.L.
    #2360741, posted on April 21, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    Theresa May’s promise to end the European Court’s jurisdiction in the UK has hit an immediate block after it emerged the EU will demand its power is upheld after Brexit.

    Or what?

    Hans Blix will send a very angry letter.

  73. test pattern

    ‘Here is a nice article on Indo’

    It is total crap.

    The Australian media have framed the election badly. Do Bali, North Sulawesi, East Nusa Tenggara and West Papua elect Muslim governors? They do not. What hypocrisy.

    Bali is a PDIP stronghold. Would they elect a Muslim/Christian Governor? Would PDIP even dare to put one up as a candidate? No. Ahok would have lost in Bali too.

    Unlike the Jakarta election the non Muslim majority Provinces don’t need overt anti Muslim campaigns. Their sectarianism is systemic, quiet, implicit.

    Will Bali now take the high moral ground and elect a Muslim governor. Of course not.

    Widodo and PDIP are dumb. They could have run a horses for courses campaign, chosen a popular secular Muslim instead of Ahok, who is not from the mainstream, and would have won in a canter. It would then have been a battle between secular Islam v Fringe loonies. Prabowo would have had to think twice about allying himself with the loonies, the losers. He would have learned from his experience in E.Timor the folly of making an alliance with the weakest Party in a Civil War.

    The Australian media would then be praising Indonesia for its tolerant secular Islam. Instead Prabowo has just been handed the next Presidency. Then he’ll ditch the fringe groups he used to get there.

    In politics there are penalties for making mistakes and for gross stupidity, as Widodo and PDIP are about to find out. Noone’s to blame but themselves.

  74. calli

    ‘Tis a Place of Wondrous Wonders, Leigh.

    I have never escaped unscathed.

  75. JC

    Leigh Lowe
    #2360727, posted on April 21, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    Do we have a name for the French shooter yet? Jean-Claude? Pierre? Maurice? What is it?

    Pascal Beauvoir.

  76. Fisky

    LOL.

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    Another terrorist attack in Paris. The people of France will not take much more of this. Will have a big effect on presidential election!

  77. egg_

    Time spent at Bunnings is never wasted.

    Did you harangue Squalid for not rounding up the trolleys?

  78. Bruce of Newcastle

    and a sausage in bread?

    The latest extension of the shared path along Cockle Creek has now reached Bunnings at Argenton. The path was completed a few weeks ago. It’s excellent as the hordes haven’t found it yet, so I can treadly my way to the end and back.

    But at the end I am wafted the smell of sausages! Terrible temptation. I am going to have to bring money some day and indulge.

    Next is the ~2 km connection from Bunnings to the Tramway Track from Glendale to Wallsend. A bike group guy told me the path was in planning. I can’t wait – it’ll be a sweet 25 km round trip through fields of green and paddocks of horses that I can do without going on a road. I’ll shed so much weight it’ll be excellent!

  79. JC

    Who remembers when Paris was known as the city of love & romance. Now it’s simply known as the city of terror & war thanks Islam
    9:42 AM – 20 Apr 2017

    Funny you mention that, as wifey and I were talking about it over dinner this evening. We’re heading to Europe in June and basing ourselves in London. We were deciding where to go and I nixed Paris. I don’t think it would be fun there anymore. It’s not that I’m worried about a terror attack while I’m there or anything, but if there was one, the city would be oppressive to visit and just no fun. It wouldn’t be any fun without an attack either.

    Incredible, this is a treasure in European civilization and look what’s happened to the place.

  80. Bruce of Newcastle

    Will Bali now take the high moral ground and elect a Muslim governor. Of course not.

    Of course they will. If not now then later. Immortal souls are at stake according to the ferals, and the ferals are in ascendancy. Any candidate not Muslim will be mousetrapped into a blasphemy trial, since it’s now clear that works.

    Surah al-Maidah 5:51 ain’t going to change.

  81. Geriatric Mayfly

    Islamic night is snuffing out the City of Light.

  82. Notafan

    That’s in the north Makka.

    I was there at the beginning of March. As charming as ever in the Marais.

    Watched a crocodile of young [email protected]@ish schoolboys walking near Place de Vosges followed by a teacher who aimed a friendly kick at one rear end.

    Pleased me enormously that they still felt confident to be visibly [email protected]@ish.

    I will certainly go again.

  83. john constantine

    Should their top level of vicpol be able to make the law they wish to enforce, or merely act as officers enforcing parliment made law?.

    http://www.firearmscouncil.org.au/index.php/2017/04/19/why-were-taking-victoria-police-to-vcat/

  84. john constantine

    “The exemption used by Victoria Police extends to refusing to release the documents in the public interest.

    We claim that it is IN the public interest to release the documents. That’s because their advice to the Minister for Police fell outside its statutory functions and should enjoy no special privilege for what was a ‘common law’ utterance (legal talk for something they weren’t required to do – but chose to do anyway).

    Taxpayers have a right to know what Victoria Police is lobbying government on, and so do shooters who are directly affected by the actions of Victoria Police.

    It is also relevant to note that Victoria Police failed to disclose it’s actions to the Firearms Consultative Committee, which was set up as a collaborative forum involving DOJR and the minister’s own office to consider and test policy proposals.”

  85. JC

    Hey Makka

    I went car shopping yesterday.. window shopping.

    I looked at one model, which is thge updated version of the model I already own. The dealership was showing the price of the car without the government imposts vs the all up price. When you take into account the government charges, it can run as much as 40% of the price of the car.

    This is senseless fucking theft. I’m thinking of running down these cars to the bitter end rather than paying that sort of impost on a car. Fuck them… the government.

    They have a freaking luxury tax on top of a GST. The luxury tax was once imposed to protect the domestic car industry.

    Dude, last night you were indirectly supporting this sort of thievery.

    An unqualified..

    I’m really sorry JC..

    would go down nicely about now.

  86. Makka

    notafan,

    I’m sure there are plenty of locations in France still quite sublime. I know the SW rather well, Pyrenees-Atlantiques and it’s still very rural and with a heavy Basque and Spanish influence that I doubt Islam will ever touch. Thankfully. It’s gorgeous country right up to and including Bordeaux. However, I’m not too keen to visit Paris again, certainly not as enthusiastic as I once was.

  87. Infidel Tiger

    Of course they will. If not now then later. Immortal souls are at stake according to the ferals, and the ferals are in ascendancy. Any candidate not Muslim will be mousetrapped into a blasphemy trial, since it’s now clear that works.

    Surah al-Maidah 5:51 ain’t going to change.

    The Kingdom of Bali has withstood Muslim invaders for a Millenia.

    They will be fine.

  88. Armadillo

    JC, why don’t you buy a white horse to get about on? Enter him in a couple of races and claim him as a tax deduction.

  89. cohenite

    john constantine

    #2360757, posted on April 21, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    Should their top level of vicpol be able to make the law they wish to enforce, or merely act as officers enforcing parliment made law?.

    http://www.firearmscouncil.org.au/index.php/2017/04/19/why-were-taking-victoria-police-to-vcat/

    I wonder what these 2 are doing?

  90. test pattern

    ‘I was struck by how entirely similar Theresa May’s discourse is to that of the British National Party candidate I fought in Blackburn in 2005. That led me to turn to the BNP 2005 Manifesto, and I can see little significant difference between it and current Tory policy.

    The British National Party in 2005 advocated:

    – Severe cuts in immigration
    – Leaving the EU
    – Bringing back grammar schools
    – Increased military spending
    – More “security” and “strong leadership”
    – Foreign policy driven by “British national interest” not human rights
    – Reduce development aid

    Indeed, the few differences I can find between the BNP 2005 manifesto and the current Tory platform are in areas like the NHS, where the Tories are more right wing than the BNP were’

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/04/can-anybody-find-significant-difference-mays-policies-british-national-party-manifesto-2005/

    Craig’s take on recent op polling is interesting too.

  91. Makka

    Dude, last night you were indirectly supporting this sort of thievery.

    An unqualified..

    I’m really sorry JC..

    would go down nicely about now.

    Get knotted. I was advocating a better deal for youth job entry and training here, while you were advocating for allowing business parasites and rent seekers to bring in several million Bangladeshi’s through our open borders to build a new Dubai west of Rocky – and pay them a bowl of rice a day. You called it a “free market in labour”.

    After all the hassle you have with that German heap of shit you own, you go shopping for a new one? You’re a moron.

  92. Notafan

    That region was the focus of my last trip Makka.

    I mentioned Bordeaux for the unpleasant islamic quartier saint Michel in Feb. Further north was as good , it’s hard not to find beautiful places in France though one lady did tell me not to bother with her hometown of Brest, bombed too often during the war.

    I don’t spend as much time in Paris now because all up I’ve had around two months there and there are so many places in France I still want to see.

    I do like a dash around the Marais though. Still my favourite.

    My kids and I saw the new year in on the Champs Elysee in not so very long ago..

    I certainly wouldn’t do that again.

  93. john constantine

    Their granuard filth finally come out with their next barrel.

    No longer lone wolf with nothing to do with islam.

    Here is their guardian first draft.

    “The only sane response was from an early jogger in the Champs Élysées. Asked how she could be in such a place, she replied: “Why not? We continue as normal.”

    Fat chance. The presumed intention of the now dead attacker was to deflect the news agenda on the eve of the first round of the French election. If he was clever, he was also hoping to boost the fortunes of the right-winger Marine le Pen, and thus incur a responsive militancy among the Muslim community. He will have been encouraged by the global publicity given to last month’s stabbing of a policeman in London. By far the greatest risk of similar acts disrupting Britain’s forthcoming election is how far we publicise and react to this one.”

    There are no facts, there is no truth, there is only the Struggle for Political Victory.

  94. Armadillo

    On second thoughts, I once claimed my Labrador as a Greyhound on my tax return for a couple of years. Entered him in a few races and then pulled him out at the last minute. Claimed all his tucker and stuff though. Nerves got me in the end. What if those fuckers at the ATO turn up to have a look at him? Thankfully, he died last year. Unless they want to dig him up and inspect the bones, I’m in the clear.

  95. H B Bear

    I note the moribund Liberal party proposes to ask the Father of Middle Class Welfare to broker a truce between The Termite and Abbott — how to you make broker peace with a snake?

    If one was feeling particularly uncharitable towards the Lieborals (as you should) you would point out that the only reason Waffleworth was still in the Parliament was Howard convincing him to stay. Just like Emperor Barnett did in WA, Howard and Hyacinth Bucket left the Lieborals as a smouldering wreck and just walked away.

  96. hzhousewife

    Wonder how long it will be before they start sending “refugees” here by boat? I reckon a couple of years when ALP get back in.

    That’s why I disapprove of crocodile culls.

  97. john constantine

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/21/overreact-paris-attack-terrorism-just-never-end

    Diversity is the strength of Paris.

    Their French need a merkel, prepared to import another few million diversity activists, the obsoletes won’t have the courage to whine once they are the minority.

  98. john constantine

    At least the World had the sense not to let howard wreck Cricket as well.

  99. Makka

    That region was the focus of my last trip

    The rather small area stretching from Pau, into the Pyrenees and Spanish border, then across to San Sebastian in Spain then up to St Jean de Luz is my absolute favourite part. I’ve never seen such an awesome variation in geography, people , cultures and FOOD in my life. It’s still very cheap to live in that area.

  100. Notafan

    What is it that Guadianistas think we should do?

    Ignore them and they will go away?

    I don’t think Egypts Copts get much choice but still they don’t go away.

    #justdon’tencouragethem.

  101. custard

    JC

    Re your post at 8.54

    Under Australian consumer law (enacted by TLS) it is a legal requirement that all prices on (new) cars are expressed as a totally drive-away price.

    Yes, the impost of the taxes is truly sickening.

  102. Notafan

    It’s near perfect.

    Planning to stay in St Jean de Luz and Pau next time through.

    This time was San Sebastian and Bayonne.

  103. Snoopy

    The Kingdom of Bali has withstood Muslim invaders for a Millenia.
    They will be fine.

    I’m not so sure. Mosques and hijabs are everywhere.

    List of Mosques in Denpasar

  104. Infidel Tiger

    Mosques and hijabs are everywhere.

    List of Mosques in Denpasar

    There are more mosques and hijabs in Melbourne and Sydney than Bali.

    The Balinese are very proud of their culture and will not die wondering, unlike the effete girly men of the west.

  105. Leigh Lowe

    Wow!
    Just read in the Hun that “millionaires” are trying to get Peta Credlin to unseat Kelly O’Dwyer in tje seat of Higgins.
    That would be #winning x 2 to draft someone with a brain into that seat to replace the useless bint O’Dwyer.

  106. Makka

    It’s near perfect.

    I have the village picked out, if I can pull it off.

  107. Zyconoclast

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/794628/Brexit-painful-precedent-no-EU-member-leave-Brussels-Petteri-Orpo-Finland

    Why don’t they just leave. Why do they have to negotiate an exit on EU terms?

    Remember the UK has nukes.

  108. Notafan

    I hope it works out Makka.

  109. Tel

    The Kingdom of Bali has withstood Muslim invaders for a Millenia.
    They will be fine.

    Up until recently the Christians in Syria, Eqypt and Iraq were thinking along similar lines.

    Not so much anymore.

    That said, various fruit loops in Washington helped the process along a bit… arming rebels, destabilizing governments.

  110. john constantine

    Imagine the world if caliph hussein obama had been able to station Social Justice atomic weapons in Venezuela, under the control of chavez, like he did in Turkey with the Social Justice keys in erdogans hands.

  111. Mark A

    Tel
    #2360787, posted on April 21, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    The Kingdom of Bali has withstood Muslim invaders for a Millenia.
    They will be fine.

    Up until recently the Christians in Syria, Eqypt and Iraq were thinking along similar lines.

    Remember Lebanon with a Christian majority not so long ago?
    If it could happen there, it can happen anywhere.
    Vigilance and resolve we need but sadly, we lack both.

  112. Andrew

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/21/overreact-paris-attack-terrorism-just-never-end

    Diversity is the strength of Paris.

    Random question: When Paris was just filled with Parisiennes, did people used to look at it and think “This place is fucked, but it could be really nice if it just had a few million more Moroccans?”

  113. Infidel Tiger

    Bali is 95% Hindu.

  114. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    As a newbie (thanks No Longer Lizzie B)

    This ‘no longer’ is open to possible misinterpretation that Libby Zee was once Lizzie B (it is actually Grig’s idea of being smart, lol, which shows the moronic level of Grigs aka Libby Zee). Please note all, especially lurkers and those new to the site, that Libby Zee has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with me. I am not Libby Zee, even though she (it?) tried to emulate many aspects of my online name until asked by Sinc to desist from this.

    To avoid such confusion with the lame comments of this peculiar and entirely ridiculous identity thief (due to good evidence thought by most here to be our old troll Grigory) I now do not sign off here as Lizzie B. but Lizzie Beare (a name that has always been on my Gravitar). He seems rather annoyed that by not being B. but the full Beare he can no longer rhyme my ID. Tough luck Grigs.

    Back to normal transmission; Grigs’ posturing has had quite enough attention from me now.

  115. Fisky

    Random question: When Paris was just filled with Parisiennes, did people used to look at it and think “This place is fucked, but it could be really nice if it just had a few million more Moroccans?”

    Weirdo left-libertarians in the 1960s certainly did think that, and that is why Daniel Cohn-Bendit and his fellow traitors are still calling for millions more to enter France.

  116. Leigh Lowe

    Bali is 95% Hindu.

    And 2.8% Schapelle Corby if reports of her binge eating are to be believed.

  117. Makka

    Bali is 95% Hindu.

    Plus 2% Maduran.

  118. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    That would be #winning x 2 to draft someone with a brain into that seat to replace the useless bint O’Dwyer.

    She would be much missed as a commenter and adornment to any program, but her obvious future is in politics. A very incisive political brain. Waiting for the day.

  119. Armadillo

    Ayatollah Khomeini established an Islamic state in Iran directed from the suburbs of Paris. Thirty years on and the French are still harbouring Islamist radicals. Can’t help but think they brought this all upon themselves.

  120. stackja

    Governor-General Sir Peter Cosgrove’s mischievous ‘uncle Bill’ a beloved World War II hero
    Justin Lees, News Corp Australia Network
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only
    EXCLUSIVE

    AS Governor-General Sir Peter Cosgrove delivers his Anzac Day address on Tuesday at one of Australia’s most important wartime cemeteries, his mind will flicker, once or twice, to a grave a few metres away.

    And after finishing his very public speech, the highly respected former military man will walk over to that plot, for a far more personal encounter.

    The name on the stone is Cosgrove.

    It is the resting-place of Sir Peter’s Uncle Bill, a flight sergeant in the Royal Australian Air Force killed in a desperate and vital, but relatively unknown, chapter of our World War II story.

    “He made an open-boat escape from Sumatra or Java when the Japanese invaded, with a group of other Royal Australian Air Force personnel,” said Sir Peter.

    “After a long journey down the Australian coast they eventually made landfall somewhere in mid-Western Australia.

    Bill was killed on a mission in Papua New Guinea, his plane vanishing after taking off from Goodenough Island in the early hours of August 11.

    His body was found with the wreckage later.

    Lest we forget.

  121. egg_

    Libby Zee was once Lizzie B

    Not Libby ‘no phone’ from Tamworth, that he had an obsession with?

  122. Armadillo

    Not Libby ‘no phone’ from Tamworth, that he had an obsession with?

    The Dr Wakefields daughter from Dungowan who was “besties” with Mr Windsor? Surely not?

  123. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    On second thoughts, I once claimed my Labrador as a Greyhound on my tax return for a couple of years. Entered him in a few races and then pulled him out at the last minute. Claimed all his tucker and stuff though. Nerves got me in the end. What if those fuckers at the ATO turn up to have a look at him?

    Borrow a greyhound. The Labrador is your ‘other dog’.
    The idea has legs, four of them, for all dog owners.
    I wonder if Attapuss could be passed off as a greyhound?
    He has many doglike features and eats like a wolf.
    Maybe if I changed his name to Afterpuss?
    Some evil greyhounds chase cats don’t they?
    But such a name might focus unwanted attention on my claim. 🙂

  124. cohenite

    Mark A

    #2360790, posted on April 21, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    Tel
    #2360787, posted on April 21, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    The Kingdom of Bali has withstood Muslim invaders for a Millenia.
    They will be fine.

    Up until recently the Christians in Syria, Eqypt and Iraq were thinking along similar lines.

    Remember Lebanon with a Christian majority not so long ago?
    If it could happen there, it can happen anywhere.
    Vigilance and resolve we need but sadly, we lack both.

    Yeah, we’re stuffed.

    The 21stC belongs to islam; make sure you’re circumcised.

  125. H B Bear

    Not news at 9 – Carlton still shit.

  126. .

    Wow, looking into this jury nullification stuff more.

    US judges treat jury nullification and its advocates and even ignorant jurors like enemies of the state.

    http://www.constitution.org/jury/pj/7913_bdc.htm

    My conviction sets a dangerous precedent by creating a new legal duty for jurors to read the minds of judges and attorneys and volunteer confessions of any “improper” thoughts or knowledge about which they think the court might be interested. In effect, it requires jurors to accuse themselves of thought crimes under threat of prosecution.

    http://discoverarchive.vanderbilt.edu/handle/1803/6502

    Silencing Nullification Advocacy Inside the Jury Room and Outside the Courtroom
    King, Nancy J., 1958-
    Persistent Link: http://hdl.handle.net/1803/6502
    Published: 1998
    Abstract

    Jurors in criminal cases occasionally “nullify” the law by acquitting defendants who they believe are guilty according to the instructions given to them in court. American juries have exercised this unreviewable nullification power to acquit defendants who face sentences that jurors view as too harsh, who have been subjected to what jurors consider to be unconscionable governmental action, who have engaged in conduct that jurors do not believe is culpable, or who have harmed victims whom jurors consider unworthy of protection. Recent reports suggest jurors today are balking in trials in which a conviction could trigger a “three strikes” or other mandatory sentence, and in “assisted suicide,” drug possession, and firearms cases. Race-based nullification is also a topic of current interest.

    Interesting stuff indeed.

  127. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The Conversation: Business Schools Should Focus on Sustainability, Not Profit

    Hairy contributed occasionally to The Conversation when it first set up, invited to do so due to certain expertise. It was stuff like this, the extension of climatic nonsense everywhere, that made him tell them he no longer wanted to contribute and not to bother calling him again.

    Profit is now a very dirty word. The universal genuflection these days is ‘sustainability’, which can mean whatever the latest green-left fad requires it to mean.

  128. JC

    Just waking up, USSR? Big night ahead with all those tweets to past here, yea?

  129. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    #2360787, posted on April 21, 2017 at 9:44 pm
    The Kingdom of Bali has withstood Muslim invaders for a Millenia.
    They will be fine.
    Up until recently the Christians in Syria, Eqypt and Iraq were thinking along similar lines.

    That was my response to the hopeful statement about the Kingdom of Bali.
    We have to face it, the cancer of Islam has metastasized. Won’t stay in situ, is invading the West and all non-Islamic nations and digging in to them, and has become hyper aggressive in its MENA home sites.

  130. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The 21stC belongs to islam; make sure you’re circumcised.

    Women as well as men…

  131. Makka

    We have to face it, the cancer of Islam has metastasized. Won’t stay in situ, is invading the West and all non-Islamic nations and digging in to them, and has become hyper aggressive in its MENA home sites.

    Yet despite all the evidence , blood and slaughter , there are douchebags who want to import more moslems here.

  132. cohenite

    Jurors in criminal cases occasionally “nullify” the law by acquitting defendants who they believe are guilty according to the instructions given to them in court. American juries have exercised this unreviewable nullification power to acquit defendants who face sentences that jurors view as too harsh, who have been subjected to what jurors consider to be unconscionable governmental action, who have engaged in conduct that jurors do not believe is culpable, or who have harmed victims whom jurors consider unworthy of protection. Recent reports suggest jurors today are balking in trials in which a conviction could trigger a “three strikes” or other mandatory sentence, and in “assisted suicide,” drug possession, and firearms cases. Race-based nullification is also a topic of current interest.

    Similar process in English CL which became too strict so jury trials regularly released those guilty of stealing bread and facing the death penalty. Transportation became the default position/sentence as Equity developed to vitiate the hardness and inflexibility of the CL.

  133. Infidel Tiger

    That was my response to the hopeful statement about the Kingdom of Bali.
    We have to face it, the cancer of Islam has metastasized. Won’t stay in situ, is invading the West and all non-Islamic nations and digging in to them, and has become hyper aggressive in its MENA home sites.

    Islam has never been weaker. It could be ended tomorrow by 3:30pm

    It is only the wests moral failings keeping it alive.

  134. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Louis Althusser was another piece of ordure that emanated from Paris to pollute the minds of a generation of university lecturer/activists, a fading community now as they age into irrelevance, but their ‘structuralist’ (hard line) Leninist-Marxist influence shifted into environmentalism in the 90’s and thereon.

    And in the football, it’s a penalty shoot out and Hairy tells me someone’s going to miss; it’s terrible.

  135. cohenite

    We have to face it, the cancer of Islam has metastasized. Won’t stay in situ, is invading the West and all non-Islamic nations and digging in to them, and has become hyper aggressive in its MENA home sites.

    Islam is a disease, an infection. Is the West terminal: I would suggest not; islam is still objectively weak and could easily be squashed (reformation is impossible). The problem is the West is fighting a more insidious disease: leftism which is weakening the West and preventing the appropriate prophylactics against islam being applied.

  136. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It is only the wests moral failings keeping it alive.

    And that is how Empires die. With a whimper.

    Brisbane has won. With a save.

  137. Makka

    Brisbane has won. With a save.

    We’ll take it. The ugly ones mean more.

  138. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It is only the wests moral failings keeping it alive.

    I don’t know who I’m quoting here, apologies to whoever I pinched this quote off.

    “Muslims everywhere live with the shame of their medieval, failed, Third World, religious culture.

    The mere existence of a successful, secular, democratic Western culture is a mirror that only amplifies their own pathetic values.”

    Why the West bothers to pander to such a backward religion, I’ll be damned if I know.

  139. Tel

    The mere existence of a successful, secular, democratic Western culture is a mirror that only amplifies their own pathetic values.

    Same problem the socialists were always up against… they showed The Grapes of Wrath hoping to convince their comrades how tough life was in the West, and the audience said, “Oh! That poor family had a car.”

  140. Bruce in WA

    Where’s that :facepalm: icon when you need it:

    Fears bikie gangs using ice addicts to steal guns from farmers

    West Australian gun users are calling for tougher laws and communal weapons safes after a spate of gun thefts police are blaming on bikie gangs.

    Detectives have told the ABC they believe bikies are getting ice addicts to steal guns from farms in the Great Southern in exchange for drugs.

    They say the bikies then use the weapons as tools in the drug trade to enforce payment.

    Detectives have recently charged 10 people in connection with firearms thefts from rural properties in the Kojonup and Katanning districts.

    Gun thieves get no bigger penalty under WA law than people stealing common household goods like televisions.

    WA Firearm Traders Association president Bevan Steele said the situation was unacceptable and he wants tougher penalties for weapons theft.

    “There should be mandatory sentencing for those criminals that are targeting these gun owners,” he said.

    Mr Steele, who owns a gun shop in Narrogin, said the isolated nature of many WA farms made it harder for gun owners to protect their weapons from criminals.

    “Lots of police stations aren’t within cooee of these rural homesteads that are getting targeted by crime,” he said.

    In August last year thieves used tools from Wagin farmer Murray Pederick’s own farm sheds to break into his gun safe.

    His wife Elizabeth Pederick has been left terrified.

    “Never, never felt like that ever before in my life,” she said.

    “The violation of the whole thing has just been awful, and still to this day when we’re coming home from somewhere … we’re just scared,” she said.

    The Pedericks had CCTV and their safes were bolted down to the legal standard.

    But fearing another break-in they now stash their guns in a larger safe, which is hidden.

    “It’s become an invisible gun safe … where nobody can find it,” Mr Pederick said.

    The Pedericks think a better solution would be communal gun safes in towns where they can be overseen by police.

    Police Minister Michelle Roberts has promised to act.

    “Theft of firearms is an incredibly serious issue, I will be raising the issue of facilities to store guns with the Police Commissioner,” she said.

    Here we go … central armouries. Greens’ wet dream and a shopping bonanza for bikies and others. “Ooh, look. I’ll have one of those and one of those … oh, and two of those!”

    Note this:

    In August last year thieves used tools from Wagin farmer Murray Pederick’s own farm sheds to break into his gun safe.

    WA Police have threatened to prosecute anyone whose own tools are used to break into a safe. We actually are expected to lock them up so they can’t be used!

  141. JC

    Big weekend in France.

    If the Frogs move their Bernie Sanders lunatic into the runoff against Le Pen, markets are going to take it up the poker with the white hot rod.

    Interesting weekend.

  142. OneWorldGovernment

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2360812, posted on April 21, 2017 at 10:26 pm

    The Conversation: Business Schools Should Focus on Sustainability, Not Profit

    Hairy contributed occasionally to The Conversation when it first set up, invited to do so due to certain expertise. It was stuff like this, the extension of climatic nonsense everywhere, that made him tell them he no longer wanted to contribute and not to bother calling him again.

    Profit is now a very dirty word. The universal genuflection these days is ‘sustainability’, which can mean whatever the latest green-left fad requires it to mean.

    Lizzie,

    Well done your man.

    Talk about appropriation of the language by the leftist ‘borg’ when they disconnect sustainability of business from profitability.

    No-one looks at the failures and wanton destruction and filth that the USSR created and China is creating.

  143. Tel

    Islam has never been weaker. It could be ended tomorrow by 3:30pm

    Saudi Arabia: financial sponsors of terrorism, and also sponsors of your local school (and big donors to the Clinton Foundation while we are at it). The fact that so many people have difficulty figuring out what this means is certainly a problem on our side.

  144. MsDolittle

    I am at the Bunnings at the designated spot.
    Where are youse all?

    Oh no! I sent a Balinese Bunnings agent to let you know the jig was up. This can only mean one thing: um …which I will let you know later when I’ve worked it out.

  145. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Lots of police stations aren’t within cooee of these rural homesteads that are getting targeted by crime,” he said.

    I rang the local coppers (50 kilometers away) to report the activities of a group who weren’t on the place for the good of my health, on a Sunday, to get put through to a Police station over two hundred kilometers away..

  146. srr

    Tommy Robinson‏Verified account @TRobinsonNewEra 2h2 hours ago

    🇵🇰Pakistan: 3 sisters finally track down a man who committed blasphemy 13 years ago. Wearing Niqabs, they shot him 💀 dead and celebrated

    https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/855382591666618372

  147. MsDolittle

    Bernie Sanders lunatic into the runoff against Le Pen,

    Le Pen is a big gov, socialist knob with timely ideas about immigration. Surely there are other options for the undecided.

  148. Similar process in English CL which became too strict so jury trials regularly released those guilty of stealing bread and facing the death penalty. Transportation became the default position/sentence as Equity developed to vitiate the hardness and inflexibility of the CL.

    Is this fair dinkum? There were jury trials for transports?
    Coz not one of my ancestors had a jury trial.
    Each were tried, convicted, & sentenced by judge only.
    They were not even allowed to speak in their own defence.

  149. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    In this light we believe that a visit to our country by yourself would not only help to improve the awareness of the Australian people of developments in Venezuela, but also be an unparalleled opportunity to strengthen the ties of friendship and solidarity between our two peoples.

    ps no need to bring your own toilet paper, we still have a plentiful supply here in Australia. Kleenex for softness, and Quilton for all-round usefulness. Prices are very competitive (oops, sorry for that word but you know what we mean). Bring one of those big Chinese bags and you can take some home for later.

  150. Andrew

    Le Pen is a big gov, socialist knob with timely ideas about immigration. Surely there are other options for the undecided.

    Yes, a kleptocrat and 2 communists.

  151. Bruce in WA

    I rang the local coppers (50 kilometers away) to report the activities of a group who weren’t on the place for the good of my health, on a Sunday, to get put through to a Police station over two hundred kilometers away..

    Dad’s uncle on a dairy farm. Woke up to find a couple of blokes helping themselves to the fuel from his above-ground tank. Rang the cop shop 25 km away. No answer. Went outside and challenged the men. The response was along the lines of “Fuck off, old man, before you get seriously hurt”.

    Went back into the house, got the .22, went outside and fired a single shot into the air over their heads.

    The thieves left skid marks down the gravel driveway on their way out.

    He never did hear from the cops.

  152. New front door, side panels and frame = $3000!

    Really?

    FMD, I wasted my working career.

  153. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Is this fair dinkum? There were jury trials for transports?
    Coz not one of my ancestors had a jury trial.
    Each were tried, convicted, & sentenced by judge only.
    They were not even allowed to speak in their own defence.

    If your ancestors ran wayside shanties, purveying rotgut liquor and diseased harlots, to the unwary, they should have been hanged, and good riddance…

  154. jupes

    I don’t think it would be fun there anymore.

    The streets of Paris;

    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/sites/sbs.com.au.news/files/images/2/0/20160916001283460265-original_800x600.jpg

    I was there last October and saw scenes like that on the way from the airport to the hotel. However for the most part the Frogs were still holding the ‘reffos’ out of the good part of Paris.

    On a couple of occasions I saw a Muslima and her kids sleeping on the streets, probably as a pathfinder / advance guard. Once they are established the rest will move in I reckon. Once that happens it will be curtains for the Frog tourist industry.

    Soldiers patrolling Bordeaux wasn’t a good look either. That being said, the vineyards were still good to go. Let’s just hope they stay that way. As we know, when the Caliphate ruled what is now Israel, they ripped every vine out of the ground.

    Spiteful pricks.

  155. If your ancestors ran wayside shanties, purveying rotgut liquor and diseased harlots, to the unwary, they should have been hanged, and good riddance…

    Farm boys, drapers, coachbuilders, army, that sort of thing, general working class types of the 4 nations.
    There’s nothing to indicate any of them were guilty.
    Transported all the same.

  156. jupes

    Le Pen is a big gov, socialist knob with timely ideas about immigration. Surely there are other options for the undecided.

    The problem is that immigration is just about the only issue of importance in France at the minute.

    If they don’t stop the Muslim invasion then nothing else matters. France will be a police state or – there will be civil war.

    Main stream parties are the reason for it and must be sent packing.

  157. Infidel Tiger

    Waleed Aly is to Islam as Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman is to prostitution.

    You’re welcome. Spread it far and wide. You have my blessing.

  158. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There’s nothing to indicate any of them were guilty.
    Transported all the same.

    Makes me laugh with all the talk of “treaties”, “apologies” and “compensation.”

    Can a blanket pardon be issued to all those who were transported for crimes that, these days, probably wouldn’t have even gone to Court?

  159. Fisky

    Le Pen is a big gov, socialist knob with timely ideas about immigration. Surely there are other options for the undecided.

    With the exception of the rapidly deflating Fillon, there are no other options. You either vote Le Pen for the possibility of having a country, or you vote for oblivion. That’s it. The days of trolling your own country into destruction for lols are gone. Time to grow up people!

  160. JC

    Look who’s holding up necessary tort reform in the US senate. No, it’s not the D’rats.

    WSJ Review and Outlook.

    It’s good to be a Senator, especially if you are a Republican who is the most important opponent of tort reform on Capitol Hill. Witness the largesse that the plaintiffs bar is bestowing on South Carolina’s Lindsey Graham in its moment of maximum political peril.

    On Thursday Mr. Graham was feted in Houston at a fundraiser hosted by Mark Lanier, who can afford it. The Lanier Law Firm has vacuumed up some $13 billion in tort verdicts over the years from Vioxx to asbestos. The invitation asks Mr. Lanier’s tort comrades to share their wealth to the tune of $500 to $5,400 for “Team Graham.”

    “Our goal is to show Senator Graham an appreciation from both sides of the bar for what he can help do, especially with tort reform running rampant from the house,” Mr. Lanier added in an email. “It will take Senator Graham to help educate folks and lead the charge from the Republican side.”

    Mr. Graham has every right to take campaign cash from all comers, and in this case he is a true believer. He’s long fought tort reform, and his legal friends have rewarded him with some $3.7 million over his 24-year Senate career.

    Now his services are truly needed, like Bonasera the undertaker in “The Godfather.” Mr. Lanier wants Mr. Graham to use all of his powers, all of his skills, to bury at least two bills that have passed the House that address major tort-bar abuses.

    The Fairness in Class Action Litigation Act would crack down on trial-attorney fees that are many times larger than the payout to the class of litigants they represent. The Furthering Asbestos Claims Transparency Act would require the nation’s 60-some asbestos trusts to provide courts the records of trust payouts. This would reduce the plaintiffs bar practice of “double dipping”—secretly raiding the trusts while also pursuing claims via lawsuits. In court they claim the company they’re suing caused asbestos disease, but to the trusts they blame the defunct company financing the trust.

    Senator Graham is on the Judiciary Committee where Republicans hold a mere 11-9 majority. His defection on any tort bill would result in a tie that could kill it. Chairman Chuck Grassley will be loathe to move bills that he knows will fail, so Mr. Graham can whisper to Mr. Grassley that he is undecided and perhaps never have to take a vote.

  161. Fisky

    Things that no one will be saying in 2017 – “I’m a small government libertarian!” “I believe in social democracy”

    Going to be a little bit more fundamental than that I think! Grow up kiddies, do it quickly.

  162. JC

    “I’m a small government libertarian!”

    I’m more than pleased to go with that tag line, Fisky.

    In fact the President of the United States is inching towards that banner everyday. 🙂 Not even baby steps either.

  163. Fisky

    It’s nice to know that – in addition to all the big corporations, open borders lobbyists, foreign governments, etc that Lindsey Graham is completely bought and in hoc to – he is also controlled by all the ambulance chasers of America.

    How are these scum allowed to live? There have already been two assassination attempts on Trump, but none on filth like Graham.

  164. MsDolittle

    “It’s also very nice if you mix it with half a pint of artisan gin and then stand on the kitchen table singing Hit Me Baby One More Time.”

    Well that made me laugh. H/T Daily Mash

  165. sdfc

    So JC is now on board with Trump’s protectionist tendencies.

    Disappointing.

  166. JC

    The Euro nifty fifty are suggesting a Macron vs Le Pen runoff. Woe is me if that isn’t the weekend result on Monday.
    Fme.

  167. MsDolittle

    If they don’t stop the Muslim invasion then nothing else matters. France will be a police state or – there will be civil war.

    Serves them right. Exemplary morons.

  168. Fisky

    Macron is another fake Trudeau/Obama style globalist. He will achieve absolutely nothing except keeping the borders open and entoileting France even more. A more photogenic Hollande, is all he is.

  169. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Don’t have a link just yet, but the Oz is desribing the weapon used in the latest Paris atrocity as a “Kalashnikov, semi automatic machine gun…..

    F.M.D.

  170. JC

    So JC is now on board with Trump’s protectionist tendencies.

    Disappointing.

    No, not really, as I think he’ll tinker with that stuff and not go full retard. Every president including Reagan imposes steel tariffs. It’s almost comical how it’s almost become a right of passage. Win the presidency, raise steel tariffs. Go have a looksee. Everyone of them has done this.

    I’m not sweating the small stuff.

    On the other hand and I have continued to say… I like his deregulation zest, love his idea to eliminate large slabs of Dodd Frank and Sabarnes. Joyous he’s easing up on vehicle emissions regs. Love what he’s doing to the EPA and the State Department and adore his energy policies and potentially cutting the corp tax rate down to 20/15%. All good at the moment.

  171. sdfc

    Trump thinks Canadia is shipping too much petroleum to the US. He’s crazy.

  172. Fisky

    What I like about Theresa May’s approach is how she doesn’t even bother to describe herself in ideological terms. She’s throwing all that garbage in the bin. The era for ideologues has passed. No one cares anymore.

  173. OneWorldGovernment

    Bruce in WA
    #2360841, posted on April 21, 2017 at 11:18 pm

    I rang the local coppers (50 kilometers away) to report the activities of a group who weren’t on the place for the good of my health, on a Sunday, to get put through to a Police station over two hundred kilometers away..

    Dad’s uncle on a dairy farm. Woke up to find a couple of blokes helping themselves to the fuel from his above-ground tank. Rang the cop shop 25 km away. No answer. Went outside and challenged the men. The response was along the lines of “Fuck off, old man, before you get seriously hurt”.

    Went back into the house, got the .22, went outside and fired a single shot into the air over their heads.

    The thieves left skid marks down the gravel driveway on their way out.

    He never did hear from the cops.

    I have met some very fine Policemen throughout Australia.

    BUT

    Why would you join the police?

    What is the mindset to become a police’person’?

    Is it to protect ‘the public’ or protect the status quo?

  174. Tel

    Every small gun is a Glock. Journalists know these things.

    Large guns are all Assault Rifles of course.

  175. JC

    Macron is another fake Trudeau/Obama style globalist. He will achieve absolutely nothing except keeping the borders open and entoileting France even more. A more photogenic Hollande, is all he is.

    Macaroni is the fave now, no?

    How the Frogs could vote for the douche married to a a woman 150 years his senior is deplorable. Deplorable in the Crooked sense.

  176. JC

    What I like about Theresa May’s approach is how she doesn’t even bother to describe herself in ideological terms. She’s throwing all that garbage in the bin. The era for ideologues has passed. No one cares anymore.

    So you think say promising to increase welfare 20% a year, cutting spending while also promising to lower taxes could be a workable set of polices to take to the electorate seeing there’s no such as ideology anymore?

    Fisk!

  177. Fisky

    No one cares. It doesn’t matter anymore. The year is 1648. Only demarcating national sovereignty is important now. All the other details can be dealt with next century. There is no ideology, just ruthless reestablishment of borders and law-and-order.

  178. JC

    Trump thinks Canadia is shipping too much petroleum to the US. He’s crazy.

    He is a little crazy, true. But judge him by his actions and deeds, not his fat uncontrollable motor mouth.
    He’s approved the Keystone pipeline that gets Canadian tar sands oil from the prairies to the east coast, thereby moving the East coast away from the Brent basis. It’s not a cut in supply or a hope to curb imports from that Iceberg.

    He’s just mouthing off, SDFC. As I said, don’t seat the small stuff. Let him tweet and leave the fucker alone as he’s busy.

  179. Tel

    … married to a a woman 150 years his senior …

    The French aren’t too worried about that, but I guess the general public might be deeply concerned that he hasn’t been caught with a mistress.

    Perhaps they will bring her out for the run-off election.

  180. Infidel Tiger

    I find May quite attractive. Powerful women are very alluring.

  181. JC

    The French aren’t too worried about that, but I guess the general public might be deeply concerned that he hasn’t been caught with a mistress.

    Perhaps they will bring her out for the run-off election.

    Lol, so true. If the dude doesn’t show a youngish good looking girlfriend during the runoff he;s donesky.

  182. Fisky

    Macron is vulnerable in the 2nd round, if the FN are prepared to go there. What kind of Frenchman marries a generation older??? It never happens!

  183. Infidel Tiger

    I had a good look at Macron’s sheila the other day.

    When he was 17 she would have been smoking and no doubt he blew his nut all over her. Alas, like most Frenchies she is now like a boiled turkey left on a hot beach – think Bardot.

    I don’t know if he’s queer but he’s definitely a messed up person.

  184. .

    JC
    #2360855, posted on April 21, 2017 at 11:39 pm

    “I’m a small government libertarian!”

    I’m more than pleased to go with that tag line, Fisky.

    In fact the President of the United States is inching towards that banner everyday. 🙂 Not even baby steps either.

    Beautiful stuff. Delicious cake.

  185. Fisky

    You just don’t do that. It’s not normal. He’s another one of these weirdo globalists who’s been parachuted into the race because they’ve got the goods on him.

  186. JC

    Infidel Tiger
    #2360874, posted on April 22, 2017 at 12:05 am

    I find May quite attractive. Powerful women are very alluring.

    Dude! Like what the hell? Focus on the one on the left

    Oh I get it, you’re kidding. 🙂

    In any event, she didn’t have kids, which means sometime in her job she’ll go batshit crazy like the other barrens. Never ever chose a childless female leader, as it’s asking for trouble. The science is clearly settled and the debate is over on that one. “

    no kid, no job”.

  187. sdfc

    I reckon May would have been alright when she was younger.

  188. Fisky

    Hopefully May will exit the EU, repudiate their jurisdiction, and impose 35% tariffs on everything. It will make Tony Blair very angry!

  189. JC

    I reckon May would have been alright when she was younger.

    Bit tall and lanky I think. She kind of looks really uncoordinated too.

  190. Fisky

    Theresa May photo. It’s 2am. Last drinks. You’re not quite sure how old she is. The taxi rank awaits.

    What is your choice!!!

  191. Infidel Tiger

    May would be dynamite in the sack. Absolutely lethal.

    All you need is the right lighting and she would blow your mind. Just like Brexit.

  192. sdfc

    May’s legs aren’t as good as Brainard’s of course.

  193. srr

    Kelly‏ @OkKelly22 Apr 20

    Turkish police invade court & arrest 70 lawyers

    This is the new Turkey

    Democratic, secular Turkey…is truly dead
    https://twitter.com/NativiItaliani/status/854943962527920128/video/1

  194. JC

    What is your choice!!!

    Run. Run and don’t ever turn back.

  195. .

    You’re not quite sure how old she is.

    Ask her if she remembers the moon landing?

  196. Fisky

    Sorry – important element missing in my Choose Your Own Adventure plot….you’ve already knocked back 15 Jacks and Coke!

    Ha ha, be honest now JC.

  197. Infidel Tiger

    Growl her out for sure. Then talk Brexit.

  198. JC

    Fisk, Artiste , SDFC

    Are you guys experiencing simultaneous strokes and not thinking straight? This is May in her earlier days. Rack… ell Welsh she wasn’t.

  199. Fisky

    She looked horrible in the 1980s when she was trying to copy Thatcher’s hairstyle. What a wasted decade!

  200. Fisky

    Then in the early 90s she switched to a dyke haircut. Why???? It’s no wonder she has no biological descendants.

  201. JC

    Then in the early 90s she switched to a dyke haircut. Why???? It’s no wonder she has no biological descendants.

    Can you drum up a pic?

  202. Fisky

    Picture of May with her boyfriend (future husband) at Oxford in ’77. What a killer look she has! You can see she intends to drag him back to the dormitory in order to dominate his ass.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/07/09/theresamay6.jpg-xxlarge_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq9YXBEXUl60qgzSS7BcJleQlWVoRYK3j8WvEWKvBsIhQ.jpg

  203. Infidel Tiger

    She delivered Brexit. So sexy!

    Would definitely pleasure with tongue.

  204. JC

    Wow, I didn’t know this. She could topple over at any moment. Twice a day is serious shit.

    Courageous Home Secretary Theresa May has vowed to carry on her political career after revealing that doctors have told her she must inject herself with insulin at least twice a day for the rest of her life.

    Mrs May, strongly tipped to succeed David Cameron as Conservative leader, is suffering from Type 1 diabetes – which carries a risk of heart attacks and strokes – and now carries a needle with her at all times.

    Disclosing the chronic condition in an exclusive interview with The Mail on Sunday, Mrs May, 56, said: ‘It was a real shock and, yes, it took me a while to come to terms with it.’

    But she is determined to soldier on in her gruelling routine as Home Secretary, working up to 18 hours a day.

    ‘The diabetes doesn’t affect how I do the job or what I do. It’s just part of life… so it’s a case of head down and getting on with it.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2380142/My-shocking-illness-Home-Secretary-Theresa-May-reveals-Type-1-diabetes-needs-daily-injections–vows-continue-political-career.html#ixzz4etXzD5e7

  205. JC

    she must inject herself with insulin at least twice a day for the rest of her life.

    At least… like it could be more than that? This means she’s pricking her fingers every few hours!

  206. Fisky

    Notice how you would never talk this way about the Lying Slapper. I wonder why that is!

  207. JC

    Yea Artiste, she’d really horny at 1.00 am. She also sounds like a bubbly bundle too.

    workaholic vicar’s daughter Mrs May, who frequently works on her Ministerial papers until 1am, before rising at 6am, said: ‘It doesn’t and will not affect my ability to do my work.

  208. Fisky

    Speaking of the Lying Slapper, I was just arguing with her former squeeze on Twitter about the Miracle of Waffleworth story. He’s a full-blown Warringah Truther, he fully believes Turnbull’s robocalls swung the election for Abbott.

    Good lord, 3 years of constant beer goggles must do that to your judgment!

  209. JC

    Notice how you would never talk this way about the Lying Slapper. I wonder why that is!

    Me? I was the one who started referring to her as the Lying Slapper and later refined to just, the slapper. You have to be kidding.

  210. OneWorldGovernment

    If England doesn’t f*k off the EU then we should declare war on England.

    And if England doesn’t tell the scum Germans, French and Belgions to sod off then they can get f*ked.

    May, may do it.

  211. Leigh Lowe

    Still at Bunnings.
    I am starting to think I’ve been stood up.

  212. Senile Old Guy

    Still at Bunnings.
    I am starting to think I’ve been stood up.

    I’ll be there soon, although possibly not in the same city, or state.

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