Open Forum: April 22, 2017

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  1. calli

    Carland’s book should sell well in Saudi.

  2. lotocoti

    Any rousing Cossack tunes in there I wonder?!

    Sure.
    Just not performed by any actual Cossacks.

  3. egg_

    Phabulous Phil Coorey on the Couch Collective – Canberra PS ‘unsettled’ about forced moves to regional Australia – when Canberra is regional Australia.
    (Thinly veiled threat – not good at Budget time with Dept Finance & all).

    (Inadvertent) #Winning!

  4. calli

    LOL. Off to the design board then. Square wheels come to mind, easier on the cobbles.

  5. Zyconoclast

    That’s actually a sight I’ve seen quite a few times in Malaysia – it’s been explained to me as “the skinny jeans and the bare midriff show I’m with it, and Western, and cool, but the headress shows I’m a good Muslim girl, don’t play round with me.”

    But if you look at my hair, I’m a slut.

    Wouldn’t that depend on the time between the waxing and the viewing?

  6. Hydra

    I will be attending to watch my Bombers. If I don’t come back please unleash hell.

  7. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    imaginary travel diaries

    Emotionally Incontinent Rambler, I guess you refer to mine given the fingernail polish references, although Calli and Notafan and occasional others also produce travel impressions and tales.

    Please be informed that there is nothing imaginary about my travel diaries. You are trolling in this.
    Sinc would know from the country IP’s, if he cared to check, that I am where I say I am. Object to the diaries all you like; but don’t accuse me of making my travel tales up any more than you would accuse others of this. You have no reason, apart from blind prejudice, to do so.

  8. Mike of Marion

    Police have also declared the footy blockbuster between Essendon and Collingwood at the MCG a “high-risk match” and each gate at the ground will have police and resources boosted to deal with expected crowds of more than 80,000.

    Is Demetriou going?

  9. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Former deputy prime minister Tim Fischer has led the campaign for the posthumous promotion, arguing governments at the time were hesitant to promote Monash, who died in 1931, because he was J1wish and a reservist rather than a professional soldier.

    Given that the Australian Permanent/Regular Army only numbered about three thousand men at the outbreak of war – of who half were the “Staff Corps – the best and the brightest, to supply officers to the Australian Imperial Force, most of those who rose to high command would have been Reservists, anyway.

    I do think, with all due respect to Tim Fischer, he would be better off stepping up where David Morrison failed so utterly.

  10. Mike of Marion

    Now 8 years, 2 days up the road from Radical Prostatectomy.

    Still kicking.

  11. Tom

    Leftoids are trolling Sky Outsiders — a commercial from AGL for the renewballs scam and another from the Australian Education Union for Gonski funding were both in the last ad break. An excellent way of redistributing the left’s stolen public wealth to Ruperdink Mudrock. LOL.

  12. Libby Zee

    an 8 CD boxed set of music from the greatest Russian composers many of whom, incidentally, lived through and composed their best works during and as a result of the Russian Revolutions.

    Any rousing Cossack tunes in there I wonder?!

    Perhaps. You can download it here in mp3 format for $33.50. Then you can find out for yourself.

  13. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Yeow. People for lunch in two hours and I must start cooking. Salmon, salad, that’s OK, but OMG I must sort out that potato gratin recipe and set about burning it soon. This lot don’t drink much, so I can’t get them drunk first as a cover. And one of them is a double university medalist, Johanna. In hard science too. Oh me oh my, the company I keep. She’s actually quite a timid little thing too. 🙂

  14. notafan

    THE 2017 ELECTION promises to be the most disruptive presidential contest in France in decades. For the first time since 1962, when the direct election of the president was introduced, there is a good chance that neither the Socialist Party (PS) nor the right-wing Republicans (LR, successor to Charles de Gaulle’s Union pour la nouvelle République) will advance a candidate to the second round. Two features mark the novelty of the conjuncture: the collapse of the Socialists, whose wildly unpopular incumbent took the unprecedented decision not to stand for reelection, and the continuing rise of the far-right National Front—widely expected to make the ballot for the May 7 runoff.


    Landscape of Treason, at the New Left Review

  15. struth

    Tom, I’m thinking of doing something I never do .

    Bet.

    On Marine Le Pen.

    Whaddaya reckon?

  16. Gab

    Former deputy prime minister Tim Fischer has led the campaign for the posthumous promotion, arguing governments at the time were hesitant to promote Monash, who died in 1931, because he was J1wish and a reservist rather than a professional soldier.

    And these days, arguments against Monash’s posthumous promotion are to do with him being a heternormative white male.

  17. entropy

    Not that anyone ever took them seriously, but the power-drunk left, having trashed every other institution in the country, thought they might as well trash the Logies.

    Tom, how is it possible to trash that cultural cringe laden, shallow gene pool embarrassment?
    I wonder which overseas C list ‘star’ they will ring out to try to give it cred this year?

  18. incoherent rambler

    prattle

    Personally, I like the first two definitions.

  19. duncanm

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2361384, posted on April 22, 2017 at 6:48 pm
    …A relation of mine used to work for Fairlight before they went bankrupt.

    degrees of separation … is Kevin Bacon involved?

  20. custard

    Tom I saw that advert from AGL on Sky.

    I’m not familiar with energy providers over there in the east, but fair dinkum if you had an alternative supply and you were currently with AGL, those adverts would be reason enough to switch.

  21. Tailgunner

    Load up, Gunner. It’s on.

    I think you’re right,Tom!
    It’s Happening again!
    Go MLP!
    BillHill – 4/1
    Sportsbet – 4.33/1
    Betfair – 4.9/1

  22. egg_

    Another week , another sock puppet emerges.

    Where’s our parody sock – Frank?

  23. struth

    I just stuck a bet on at sportsbet.

    4.33/1

  24. I just stuck a bet on at sportsbet.

    4.33/1

    You just jinxed her. Oh the humanities.

  25. JC

    French per Cap GDP since 2005 hasn’t moved at all. In fact it’s slight lower.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/france/gdp-per-capita-ppp

  26. Tom

    I think you done good, Struth.

  27. Here’s what the first earth day loonies said back in 1970:

    “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” declared Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day, in the Spring 1970 issue of The Living Wilderness. In that same issue, Peter Gunter, a professor at North Texas State University, wrote, “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine” (REASON Magazine)

    47 years of getting it wildly wrong and still going strong.

  28. incoherent rambler

    I side with cat that said Marine Le Pen will not be allowed to win.

  29. Tom

    French per Cap GDP since 2005 hasn’t moved at all. In fact it’s slight lower.

    Imagine that: the same statistic that got Trump elected.

  30. Geriatric Mayfly

    I must sort out that potato gratin recipe and set about burning it soon.

    Simples Lizzie. Only from Aldi, four in a box: ‘Maitre D’ ‘ Potato Gratin. Also do a Spinnach and Ricotta Gratin. Just heat ’em up, brown (not blacken the tops) Both rather moreish.

  31. entropy

    Le Pen wont help the french economy, at least directly. She is a socialist just like the other candidates. The only difference is she has a bit of pride in her country.

  32. Snoopy

    Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine”

    97%?

  33. Le Pen wont help the french economy, at least directly. She is a socialist just like the other candidates. The only difference is she has a bit of pride in her country.

    The French election is all about three things – immigration, immigration, and immigration.

  34. Fisky

    Le Pen won’t fix the economy, but she will stop France being overrun by millions more Muslims and save a lot on welfare.

  35. incoherent rambler

    The French election is all about three things – immigration, immigration, and immigration.

    AND now that the UK has abandoned the EU threesome, a lot of French are also keen to abandon merkel and her baby.

  36. Geriatric Mayfly

    In hard science too. Oh me oh my, the company I keep. She’s actually quite a timid little thing too.
    The flashbacks one has. Reminds me of a flat mate of my future good lady in London. Church twice on Sunday mornings – one for her and on for her Catholic boyfriend. Then Evensong ‘ere nightfall.
    By day, she squinted into the microscope studying the semen of sailors.

  37. C.L.

    … unemployed Russian scientists found work in North Korea’s nuclear weapons program.

    It was either that or the CSIRO. They have some pride.

  38. Andreas

    Even Venezuela has a chance to one day escape the poverty and destruction socialism has wrought. Importing hoards of Muslims is something much harder to overcome.

  39. duncanm

    “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine”

    To be fair, parts of Africa and South America are in famine.

    Just not for the right reasons.

  40. Snoopy

    Living in gentile poverty in a free France is immeasurably more attractive than living with the ‘benefits’ of uncontrolled ‘immigration’.

  41. C.L.

    I side with cat that said Marine Le Pen will not be allowed to win.

    That was me.
    The anti-Muslim “far right” leader in Austria was banned from winning.
    État profond won’t let Le Pen win either.

  42. classical_hero

    The difference is that in France the President has more powers than Austria has.

  43. notafan

    Skin in the Game is necessary to reduce the effects of the following divergences that arose mainly as a side effect of civilization: action and cheap talk (tawk), consequence and intention, practice and theory, honor and reputation, expertise and pseudoexpertise, concrete and abstract, ethical and legal, genuine and cosmetic, entrepreneur and bureaucrat, entrepreneur and chief executive, strength and display, love and gold-digging, Coventry and Brussels, Omaha and Washington, D.C., economists and human beings, authors and editors, scholarship and academia, democracy and governance, science and scientism, politics and politicians, love and money, the spirit and the letter, Cato the Elder and Barack Obama, quality and advertising, commitment and signaling, and, centrally, collective and individual.
    But, to this author, is mostly about justice, honor, and sacrifice as something existential for humans.
    Let us first connect a few dots of items the list above.


    On Interventionistas and their Mental Defects

  44. egg_

    River Rocket Oliver

    Rocker Cover Oliver

  45. calli

    Here’s what the first earth day loonies said back in 1970:

    I have “The Population Bomb” on my bookshelves. The final chapter on how to convince others of The Dreadful Truth reads like an Amway recruitment manual.

  46. notafan

    Is it possible to bet on multiples in the French election.

    I would like to back a Le Pen Fillon quinella in the run offs.

  47. C.L.

    Turnbull should step in to the ring instead:

    Tony Abbott challenged to boxing match ahead of Brisbane Horn-Pacquiao bout.

    The Labor Senator [Anthony Chisholm] is ready to pull on the gloves and go toe-to-toe with the former prime minister in a curtain-raiser to Australia’s biggest ever boxing match in Brisbane in July.

    Promoters want the battle of the political heavyweights as the undercard to the Manny Pacquiao- Jeff Horn fight in front of a sellout crowd at Suncorp Stadium.

  48. Tailgunner

    Don’t be such a pessimist, C.L. – Trump 2016 showed the way!

  49. calli

    Living in gentile poverty

    Genteel poverty works too. Considering that J3ws are deserting France.

  50. stackja

    Just released cartoon by Michael P. Ramirez that covers my favorite topic. What the hell is wrong with young people today who cannot tolerate anything that doesn’t reinforce their happiness?

  51. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Living in gentile poverty in a free France is immeasurably more attractive than living with the ‘benefits’ of uncontrolled ‘immigration’.

    Fair comment, but I’m wondering what the effects on the French economy will be when they aren’t funding a few hundred thousand unemployed, unemployable, semi – literate, goat herders.

  52. Andreas

    Don’t be such a pessimist, C.L. – Trump 2016 showed the way!

    I suspect that whatever America does – Europe will do the opposite.

  53. incoherent rambler

    Great link notafan!

    From that link:

    So we end up populating what we call the intelligentsia with people who are delusional, literally mentally deranged, simply because they never have to pay for the consequences of their actions, repeating modernist slogans stripped of all depth. In general, when you hear someone invoking abstract modernistic notions, you can assume that they got some education (but not enough, or in the wrong discipline) and too little accountability.

  54. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I have “The Population Bomb” on my bookshelves. The final chapter on how to convince others of The Dreadful Truth reads like an Amway recruitment manual.

    I had that inflicted on me in High School…subtle brainwashing, to be charitable.

  55. egg_

    Watts has some photos up of the Marches for whatever

    Einstein had to make a showing.

  56. H B Bear

    Great link notafan!

    Taleb is ruthless on the IYI – Intellectual Yet Idiot. It is fertile ground.

  57. Tailgunner

    I would like to back a Le Pen Fillon quinella in the run offs.

    Yes, nota – At Sportsbet & Betfair you can bet on the Final Two as well as who will win the first roundas well as an overall winner.
    I’ve got a smoky on LePen/ Melenchon getting through to next week @13/1 but a Macron/LePen runoff is heavily favoured.

  58. struth

    just stuck a bet on at sportsbet.

    4.33/1

    You just jinxed her. Oh the humanities.

    Tom, Adam is probably right.
    Knowing my luck.

    However, I think the French are generally too socialist.
    Marine Le Pen has socialist policies the French will like.
    But they are not “globalists”( I hate that term, as there is no such animal when they only want the west to pull down it’s borders)
    They are patriotic to France before the E.U.

    Brexit will be embarrassing for them if they also don’t leave the E.U.
    The French have a competitive chip on their shoulder with regards to the English, but the hate the Germans, generally speaking.
    The left wing traitorous enablers of the Islamic invasion will end up achieving the exact opposite of what they set out to achieve, which is always the case.
    A strengthening of borders.

    This election is all about Islamic invasion primarily, but keeping face with the British and national pride with the French, is no small thing.

    The corruption during the election against Le Pen will be huge, and I won’t be surprised if she is taken out of the election and put in the slammer.

    Polls are biased and useless.
    Online betting gets closer to the mark and all things considered it was worth a coupla hundred.

  59. egg_

    I have “The Population Bomb” on my bookshelves. The final chapter on how to convince others of The Dreadful Truth reads like an Amway recruitment manual.

    Invite folks ’round for ‘pot luck’ and Kool Aid?

  60. struth

    Fair comment, but I’m wondering what the effects on the French economy will be when they aren’t funding a few hundred thousand unemployed, unemployable, semi – literate, goat herders.

    Their tourist industry is really suffering apparently.
    This is huge for France and especially Paris.

  61. srr

    Stefan Molyneux‏Verified account
    @StefanMolyneux

    107 cancer papers retracted due to peer review fraud
    New papers were found through investigations into previous fraud.

    CATHLEEN O’GRADY – 4/22/2017
    https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/04/107-cancer-papers-retracted-due-to-peer-review-fraud/
    ___________________________
    😡 … oh, Shut Up! and March! … 😡

  62. stackja

    More than 62,000 Australian soldiers died in World War I
    Grantlee Kieza, The Sunday Mail (Qld)
    April 23, 2017 12:00am
    Subscriber only
    ON this day 100 years ago, my grandfather was sailing towards the coast of England, ready to take his place in the greatest cataclysm mankind had ever experienced.
    His name was Jim Ramage and he was a 19-year-old railway worker from a hard-scrabble village in central Victoria, one of 1752 men on board the troopship Ballarat.

    As the morning of Anzac Day 1917 approached and the Ballarat entered the English Channel, the men on board were preparing for the commemoration ceremony honouring all the young Australians already lost on the killing fields.

    A German torpedo exploded on the Ballarat’s tail shaft, lifting all those in the near vicinity off the deck. A couple of the soldiers had broken legs but, although none were killed by the blast, the Ballarat began sinking. A bugle was sounded and an order made to man the lifeboats.

    Jim Ramage made it out of the war alive, despite getting a dose of poison gas in France and seeing one of his mates blown to pieces by an artillery shell.
    He came home to the Australian bush, changed forever by what he saw as the futility of war and mankind’s never-ending quest for self-destruction.

    He worked as a motorcycle cop for a while and then spent the rest of his life as a dairy farmer, raising a large family.
    A deeply religious man, he always said the Great War had been caused by fervent nationalism and the egotism of the world’s rulers and how, without risking their own lives, politicians sent millions to their doom.
    He never marched on Anzac Day.

  63. notafan

    Gunner

    Opened a betfare acct

    can you explain to a betfair novice how to back the quinella?

    I’m on the final two page

  64. Fisky

    Theresa May out to 25-point lead!

    ComRes/S Mirror:

    CON 50 (+4)
    LAB 25 (=)
    LD 11 (=)
    UKIP 7 (-2)
    SNP 4 (=)
    GRN 3 (-1)

    On those numbers the Tories will get 418 seats to Labour’s 146!

  65. egg_

    The thought of thousands of scientists marching together made me wonder … with all those polyester cardigans rubbing together, how much static electricity was generated?

    Almost as much static electricity as a skivvied trekkies convention?

  66. calli

    I love the IYI (Intellectual Yet Idiot) description:

    When plebeians do something that makes sense to them, but not to him, the IYI uses the term “uneducated”. What we generally call participation in the political process, he calls by two distinct designations: “democracy” when it fits the IYI, and “populism” when the plebeians dare voting in a way that contradicts his preferences.

    Lots of good stuff in Bear’s link at 11:51.

  67. stackja

    U.S. strategic planning after World War II centered on the Soviet Union and its satellite nations. In 1950, as the single most powerful nation in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, America gave first claim for its military resources to the defense of western Europe. Not only did the United States give priority to Europe over the Pacific and Far East, in April 1948 President Truman had approved a policy that no problems within Korea could become a casus belli for the United States. In January 1950, in a speech to the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., Secretary of State Dean G. Acheson announced an American defensive strategy in the Far East that excluded both Korea and Formosa.

  68. calli

    Almost as much static electricity as a skivvied trekkies convention?

    No way! Went to one of those in the late seventies out of curiosity. Hilarious and very strange.

    In these degenerate days, they would be considered mainstream.

  69. notafan

    An extension of this defect: they compare the actions of the “dictator” to the prime minister of Norway or Sweden, not to those of the local alternative. The third flaw is that they can’t forecast the evolution of those one helps by attacking.

    reminded me of someone.

  70. Tailgunner

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicde…sofvictory
    Quote:
    ”EURASIA GROUP and The Economist are frequently sympatico,” says Ian Bremmer, “but not on the French elections.” Mr Bremmer is the president of Eurasia Group, a risk consultancy. He recently took us to task on Twitter regarding our statistical forecast for France’s upcoming election. Our model calculates that Marine Le Pen of the National Front has a 1% chance of becoming the country’s next president. Eurasia pegs her probability at a far higher 40%, and Mr Bremmer wrote that our analysis was

    Sounds very familiar!

  71. Tailgunner

    Notafan,
    You should see the different combos for the Final 2, just check the blue box (not pink!) next to your selection then a wager amount box will come up.
    Go big,profit! 🙂

  72. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Jim Ramage made it out of the war alive, despite getting a dose of poison gas in France and seeing one of his mates blown to pieces by an artillery shell.

    One of my mob was badly gassed on the Western Front in 1917. He never fully recovered his health, and died in 1942. He was so disgusted at the treatment dealt out to those who would now be considered T.P.I. that he returned his medals in protest , in 1924.

  73. Fisky

    Tim Shipman‏ @ShippersUnbound 6h6 hours ago
    More
    Sunday Times/YouGov

    By 48% to 26% voters are content that May has called an election.
    The gamble has worked

  74. srr

    [Live Stream (NOW)] Dr. Jordan Peterson: The Devouring Mother
    Baron Media

  75. notafan

    I worked it out cheers Gunner.

    took the quinella and a couple of win bets on Le Pen.

  76. Leigh Lowe

    Where are youse?
    Useless bastards!
    Couldn’t organise a piss-up in a brewery.
    I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it any more.
    Youse are hopeless.
    Two whole days I’ve been waiting here at Bunnings …. no, wait … I’m at Mitre 10.
    As youse were.

  77. Tailgunner

    Go Cats&Kittehs!
    And go Pussycats over the Saints today!

  78. Fisky

    This guy edges out Sargon of Akkad as the world’s number 1 troll. Amazing job!

    Chelsea Clinton‏Verified account
    @ChelseaClinton
    Chelsea Clinton Retweeted Godfrey Elfwick
    My daughter asks for “One, no two, no four more stories” every night (not sure why she consistently skips the request for three more)

    Godfrey Elfwick @GodfreyElfwick
    I was 3 when I attended my first protest. Proudly marching alongside other like-minded toddlers in the ‘Kids Against Bedtime’ movement.

  79. Fisky

    Chelsea thought this guy was serious. Here’s his profile –

    Godfrey Elfwick
    @GodfreyElfwick
    Genderqueer Muslim atheist. Born white in the #WrongSkin. Itinerant jongleur. Xir, Xirs Xirself. Filters life through the lens of minority issues.

  80. Mark from Melbourne

    Sorry for the late reply,Mark – try Betfair.
    She’s favourite to win the first round – $1.70/1

    Not to win the first round… to win outright in the first round. Too late now. Sportsbet gave me a very niggardly 50/1 on a maximum $40 bet. Hardly seems worth it.

  81. Tom

    One of Hollande’s muppets attempts to soothe ruling class nerves:

    WASHINGTON—A French exit from the eurozone would be unpopular among French voters and near-impossible for any future president to pull off, France’s finance minister, Michel Sapin, said in an interview.

    French citizens will to head to the polls Sunday for the most tense presidential election in decades. Two of the favorites—National Front candidate Marine Le Pen and far-left contender Jean-Luc Mélenchon—have cast doubt on France’s place in the European Union and the single currency. Both could potentially make the runoff round in two weeks’ time, where the two most popular candidates are likely to face off.

    Speaking on the sidelines of a summit of global economic leaders, Mr. Sapin said the chances of “Frexit” are remote.

    “In life everything is possible, even the most stupid things,” the minister said. “But if there’s one thing the French are attached to, it’s the euro. I don’t understand why some have tried to make this into a hobbyhorse.”

    Nevertheless, French authorities have undertaken precautions to protect
    against any fallout from Sunday’s vote in financial markets, as any
    government would, the minister said.

    .Ms. Le Pen, who is expected to reach the runoff round, has pledged to hold a referendum on whether to leave the EU and hence the eurozone. A poll published last month suggested that almost three-quarters of French people would oppose a return to the franc.

    Any future French president would require support from parliament to enact the plans, even something like holding a referendum, Mr. Sapin said. None of the leading candidates is attached to a major political party, and Ms. Le Pen in particular is expected to struggle to win support in parliament if she wins. French voters will elect a new legislature in June.

    “Even if the worst happens—the election of an extreme candidate of the right or left—it won’t change the reality of the exercise of power,” Mr. Sapin said. “I really don’t see how the extreme [candidates] could have a majority in parliament. It’s absolutely not possible.”

  82. Fisky

    Don’t do drugs –

    Louise Mensch‏Verified account @LouiseMensch 8h8 hours ago
    More
    I believe that ISIS, funded and supplied by Russia, does not represent Muslims either. They burned shahid Muath Al Kasbeah in a cage alive

  83. Makka

    One of Hollande’s muppets attempts to soothe ruling class nerves:

    No need. The French know there is so much EU related dosh holding up much of the French economy , punters will be in no hurry to commit suicide by choosing to ditch their central position at that trough.

  84. jupes

    Police have also declared the footy blockbuster between Essendon and Collingwood at the MCG a “high-risk match” and each gate at the ground will have police and resources boosted to deal with expected crowds of more than 80,000.

    Lucky they have a prayer room at the ‘G to keep the more excitable Muslims happy and content.

  85. Mark from Melbourne

    And go Pussycats over the Saints today!

    Gunner, I knew there was a reason I liked you!

  86. Libby Zee

    I’ve got a smoky on LePen/ Melenchon getting through to next week @13/1 but a Macron/LePen runoff is heavily favoured.

    What is a smoky? $1o? $20? $50? $100?

  87. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    WORLD BREAKING NEWS
    Vietnam refuses to lift Anzac memorial ban

    In the humid pre-dawn light across Southeast Asia thousands will gather Tuesday at memorials marking Anzac Day.

    But Australian officials say Vietnam have refused to lift a ban on official memorials at the Long Tan Cross in Vung Tau province, extending a policy in place since August last year.

    The ban took effect hours before a planned 50th anniversary commemoration last August was to proceed.

    An Australian consular website notice said Vietnam had refused permission for official commemorations at the Long Tan site, including Anzac Day 2017. But “small groups” for “low key” private visits, and without media coverage would be allowed

    From the Oz.

  88. EJ

    Shall we pray..?
    Idea of government as all-powerful God is strangling Australia
    By Grace Collier, The Australian
    The Australian
    12:00AM April 22, 2017

    “Our government in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Government watches over me and will make my life better day by day. Government will dry my tears; make me feel accepted, happy, safe and loved. Government will clear for me a path in the jungle of life. Government will catch me when I fall, smite my enemies, feed and water me, and lead me safely to my destination. Blessed be thy three layers of government, and the power of Centrelink, for thine is the kingdom of the public servants that rule over us, and the Department of Human Services that sustains us, for ever and ever. Amen.”

  89. vr

    Last week Huffpost published a piece that called for white men to be denied the right to vote. Turns it was a hoax. Well. this week the Sth African ombusman has ruled that piece was hate speech against white men. The editor has resigned.

  90. john constantine

    Once was child star, Joannie Cunningham dies at 56.

    “She was reportedly kicked out of her trailer park in Indiana, along with her husband, because of their hard-partying ways.

    Erin was just 14 when she signed on to play Ron Howard’s brother in the TV classic Happy Days, which aired from 1974 to 1983.

    Her TV credits also include The Love Boat, Murder, She Wrote and The Bold and the Beautiful.

    She most recently appeared on VH1 reality show Celebrity Fit Club in 2008.”

    Sadly, it seems that getting kicked out of a tralier park in Indiana for being a pisshead really is jumping the shark.

  91. I have $200 on Le Pen to win. No big bets this time around as I doubt she will get through the second round.

  92. egg_

    Carland’s book should sell well in Saudi.

    They may enjoy photoshopping some FGM onto her?

  93. H B Bear

    Lucky they have a prayer room at the ‘G to keep the more excitable Muslims happy and content.

    Well that should make it easy to round up any potential threats then. I wonder why the Frogs haven’t tried this?

  94. test pattern

    #KellyWatch

    Has anyone here seen Kelly k-e-double l-y?

    The McGowan Govt has only been in power for a few weeks. Even so, here at Kelly Watch we’re pleasantly surprised that it’s taken the new Minister for Dead Surfers so long to fuck up. He seems to think he’s on a membership drive recruiting Great Whites for United Voice. He’s growing into his new job nicely and is even dressing like an undertaker. We’re looking forward to his next gaffe, which surely won’t be long.

  95. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Carland’s book should sell well in Saudi.

    Anyone care to imagine the reception the good doctor would get, if she ever set foot in Saudi Arabia to promote her book?

  96. val majkus

    Wow! Don’t miss Steve Kates’ post ‘Adversity is good for the Soul’ linking to David Archibald’s diary! As Steve says ‘It’s depressing but full of the sort of stuff you should know.’

  97. H B Bear

    Doesn’t DFAT normally send these tame muzzies on book tours through goat molesting deserts to try and bring them around?

  98. Last week Huffpost published a piece that called for white men to be denied the right to vote. Turns it was a hoax. Well. this week the Sth African ombusman has ruled that piece was hate speech against white men. The editor has resigned.

    So does the bloke who lost his job get it back?
    The one Huffpost badgered his employer to fire coz he’d written a joke article that Huffpost fell for & printed without factchecking?

  99. FMD, I want at bare minimum Two more Chefs. Anyone wondering why you’d hire from overseas should try job interviewing Australian Cooks.

  100. .

    Salvo

    I hope you enforce good customer service. That is the one thing I can’t stand about this country.

    “Whaddya want darl, I’m busy readin’ my stories?”

    Good diction and for you to not spit in my food?

  101. areff

    Fans of Philippa Martyr — and aren’t we all? — will find her Quadrant essay at QoL, just posted and out from behind the paywall.

  102. Roger

    I’ve never had much time for AFL, even less after the Adam Goodes affair.

    Now this:

    The AFL & Victoria Police (no less) are investigating an alleged “racist attack” on a Brisbane Lions trainer in yesterday’s game between the Lions & the Bulldogs. After the trainer, of Asian appearance, ran across a Bulldog’s player’s line of sight as he was kicking for goal, gifting a 50m penalty to the Bulldogs, a man in the crowd apparently yelled, “Go back to the fucking Chinese takeaway, you dickhead.” Several fans sitting nearby reported him to security, one having filmed the man while another took down verbatim notes of what he said (once bystanders would have pulled him in to order, now we are becoming a nation of dobbers).

    Boorish behaviour? Undoubtedly; and you wouldn’t want to be sitting near him with your kids. But a “racist attack”? Worthy of investigations by the AFL and the police (who walk past much more offensive language in the street every day)? News headlines? This is the sort of quip that was once commonly heard at football matches. Yes, I realise times have changed, but have we become such a nation of shrinking violets that we don’t have the resilience of spirit to refuse to take offence at a tasteless attempt at humour?

  103. Geriatric Mayfly

    Carland’s book should sell well in Saudi.

    Doubt it very much. ME Muslims don’t do books. Except for one that is.

  104. zyconoclast

    Carland’s book should sell well in Saudi.
    Anyone care to imagine the reception the good doctor would get, if she ever set foot in Saudi Arabia to promote her book?

    About as well as this book tour.

  105. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Anyone wondering why you’d hire from overseas should try job interviewing Australian Cooks.

    Lady who ran our local, back in the day, described Australian cooks as “Alcoholic, homosexual or demented.. The one we just got rid of was all three.”

  106. zyconoclast

    The Polish government will not allow a migrant crisis similar to that seen in Western Europe, Interior Minister Mariusz Błaszczak has said.

    “The policy of multiculturalism in Western Europe is bringing about a bloody harvest in the form of terrorist attacks,” Błaszczak told Polish Radio on Tuesday.
    He said that Europe is dealing with a “massive immigration crisis”.
    The Polish conservative Law and Justice (PiS) government has refused to accept migrants from the Middle East and Africa under an EU programme to relocate some 160,000 asylum seekers currently residing in camps in Italy and Greece.

    The previous Polish government coalition led by the Civic Platform (PO) party had accepted the deal signed by EU member states.
    “Our predecessors, agreeing to receive thousands of refugees – and de facto immigrants from the Middle East, and northern Africa – were striving to bring about such a crisis,” Błaszczak said.
    He added that while PiS was in power, it would “not allow a repeat of what we are dealing with in Western Europe”. (rg/pk)

  107. Bloke

    Tailgunner, where can I get on Le Pen to win in the first round?

    Sorry for the late reply,Mark – try Betfair.
    She’s favourite to win the first round – $1.70/1

    Went into my Betfair Acoount on the 16/04 had a balance of$275.21 when i last logged in. Balance on the 16/04 was now zero, Checked the account a winning bet of $275 @ $6.00 then a losing bet of $1,500+ on another soccer match, balance now zero. Quite upset about this my $275 kaput. Rang Betfair extremely upset with the firm , they said we do not accept liability for any missing monies in your account, somebody has compromised your account, we refuse to compensate you for your losses. I then after using a few choice words demanded they send me all logins to this account since Oct 16 , they brought to my attention that there was a login from overseas made by me some 5 months ago to check the account balance and that was how they would have captured my user name and p/w, I replied absolute crap there has not been an attempt to login in the 5 months until the 13/04 by any body other than me.

    The login info eventually arrived after more hassles, on checking the details the 1st login on the 13/04 was made from Thailand which was successful, within minutes the bets were placed in Melbourne by a Telstra IP address my account was then cleaned out by the bets being offset by the fraudster in what I believe was a lay bet. Any thoughts about what one can do, most certainly I will not be entrusting any funds to Betfair in the future.

  108. zyconoclast

    Vietnam refuses to lift Anzac memorial ban

    Their country, their rules.

  109. Roger

    Their tourist industry is really suffering apparently. This is huge for France and especially Paris.

    Yes, yet a friend living there advises me there is a pall of apathy over the general populace in Paris.

    Rather perplexing if he is right, but it does explain why Le Pen is not polling better there.

    Mind you, a Le Pen-Macron run off would still be big news.

  110. Stimpson J. Cat

    Godfrey is God.

  111. Sparkx

    A tip Salvatore, stay well away from kiwis. The few we employed were nothing but trouble.

  112. egg_

    Carland’s book should sell well in Saudi.

    Will she follow it up with a cookbook ‘Hummus in the Khyber’?

  113. egg_

    Of all the low-down trolls in all the blogs in all the interwebs, we get the boring transsexual Ukrainian.

    They’d be right at home on Q&A/ABC2/SBS2 – ‘Community Television’ standards.

  114. Stimpson J. Cat

    “Go back to the fucking Chinese takeaway, you dickhead.”

    Wong number mate.
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

  115. test pattern

    ‘why Le Pen is not polling better there.’

    She is doing worryingly well. The Le Pens basic share is 20% ie Vichy. Anything above that is worrying. Should Le Pen, a Putin acolyte, win, we may have to cancel the French sub deal. Should she then implement anti Muslim laws and bans, she will destroy the Francophone sphere and the economic benefits France derives from it. Should she withdraw from the EU we shall have to prepare to step into New Caledonia, or China will.

  116. custard

    Thanks for the notification areff that Philippa’s piece had been unlocked from the paywall.

    Wow. Great stuff.

    I have a very close friend who I think may have been abused as a teenager and I often wonder what may have caused it all to happen. I know both of the priests have either been convicted of abusing others or are under investigation posthumously.

    Well done Philippa.

  117. srr

    MSNBC Fake News:

    Rachel Maddow Implies Widespread Anti-Socialist Protests in Venezuela are Against President Trump

    Retracts Lie Online

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/04/22/rachel-maddow-airs-headline-linking-venezuelan-protests-trump-retracts-online/
    ____________________________

    So then all the #Fake&ShakyTrumpers should know they are silly.
    Yes even more silly than the Retched Madcow 😉

  118. egg_

    Ol’ Leathery is certainly in a grumpy, interruptive and querulous mood this morning.

    The Pence visit was a roaring success. Scrote just can’t handle the winning.

    An unwelcome visitation from ‘Planet America’?

  119. cohenite

    test pattern

    #2361920, posted on April 23, 2017 at 2:50 pm

    You’re funny, like watching a drunk vomit.

  120. incoherent rambler

    we shall have to prepare to step into New Caledonia, or China will…

    I reckon the Chinese are not that stupid (we on the other hand).
    The place is a powder keg.

  121. test pattern

    http://lobelog.com/how-to-lose-the-next-war-in-the-middle-east/

    Major Danny Sjursen, a TomDispatch regular, is a U.S. Army strategist and former history instructor at West Point. He served tours with reconnaissance units in Iraq and Afghanistan. He has written a memoir and critical analysis of the Iraq War, Ghost Riders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge.

  122. test pattern

    ‘like watching a drunk vomit’

    All over the place like a Les Patterson chunder

  123. Hydra

    The login info eventually arrived after more hassles, on checking the details the 1st login on the 13/04 was made from Thailand which was successful, within minutes the bets were placed in Melbourne by a Telstra IP address my account was then cleaned out by the bets being offset by the fraudster in what I believe was a lay bet. Any thoughts about what one can do, most certainly I will not be entrusting any funds to Betfair in the future.

    That is shithouse.

    Online scams and such fraud can be reported to your local state police and they should investigate.

  124. Frank

    egg_
    #2361799, posted on April 23, 2017 at 11:13 am

    Another week , another sock puppet emerges.

    Where’s our parody sock – Frank?

    Pseudonymous but no sock puppetry here.

  125. egg_

    That’s actually a sight I’ve seen quite a few times in Malaysia – it’s been explained to me as “the skinny jeans and the bare midriff show I’m with it, and Western, and cool, but the headress shows I’m a good Muslim girl, don’t play round with me.”

    Witnessed Oz Pakistanis observing same, Carland’s no trend setter.

  126. egg_

    Pseudonymous but no sock puppetry here.

    Twas a cue to ‘Frank Walker’.

  127. Frank

    Phew, wouldn’t want my good (fake) name besmirched.

  128. incoherent rambler

    That is shithouse.

    Worse still, the implication is that if it can be scammed with a change of carrier, the traffic is not encrypted or easily decrypted.

  129. Rabz

    Back in Sidders and back on the air! 🙂

  130. Baldrick

    Any thoughts about what one can do, most certainly I will not be entrusting any funds to Betfair in the future.

    Not much by the look of Betfair’s terms:

    Provided that we have been correctly supplied with the account information requested, we are entitled to assume that offers and payments are made by you. You should change your password on a regular basis and never disclose it to any third party. You undertake to protect your username and password in the same way that you would in respect of your bank cards and any failure to do so shall be at your sole risk and expense. If another person accesses your account, you are solely responsible for all their actions whether or not their access was authorised by you and you hereby indemnify us and hold us harmless against all costs, claims, expenses and damages howsoever arising in connection with the use of or access to your account by any third party.

    Googling ‘Betfair account hacked’ doesn’t inspire me with any confidence in opening an account with them.

  131. H B Bear

    Hummus in the Khyber

    Sounds more like the title to Wheelie Bin’s biography to me.

  132. .

    Why would France give up New Caledonia under Le Pen?

  133. srr

    Nothing to see here, scroll on by ………… 😀 ………..

    President Donald Trump – Captain of Global Trade and Finance…
    Posted on April 22, 2017 by sundance

    Sometimes geo-politics can be funny and deserve a little snark in discussion. The International Monetary Fund (IMF), and World Bank, are holding a conference in DC. this weekend. Deplorable Secretary Mnuchin represents U.S. and Trump interests.

    Amid the earlier G20 Summit the Trump effect ended up with changed language from the finance leadership. Titan Trump’s election changed the way the IMF and World Bank globalists talk about international trade. Bi-lateral and nationalism are no longer dirty words.

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – International Monetary Fund members on Saturday dropped a pledge to fight protectionism amid a split over trade policy and turned their attention to another looming threat to global economic integration: the first round of France’s presidential election. (more)

    However, funnier still is the resurfacing of a familiar face. You might well remember former Mexican Finance Minister Augustin Carstens resigned as Mexico’s central bank chief just after the election of Donald Trump. Well, apparently, the job of saving face for the changed approach of the IMF/World Bank is now squarely on Carsten’s shoulders.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jfd6_F7qvg

    Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/04/22/president-donald-trump-captain-of-global-trade-and-finance/

  134. test pattern

    ‘In your nation, as in mine, religion unifies – it doesn’t divide,” Pence said.’

    Hahahahahahaha

    http://www.benarnews.org/english/news/indonesian/Mike-Pence-04202017172319.html

  135. egg_

    ‘March for Science (CO2)’

    ‘First, they came for the trees…’

  136. Fisky

    She is doing worryingly well. The Le Pens basic share is 20% ie Vichy. Anything above that is worrying. Should Le Pen, a Putin acolyte, win, we may have to cancel the French sub deal. Should she then implement anti Muslim laws and bans, she will destroy the Francophone sphere and the economic benefits France derives from it. Should she withdraw from the EU we shall have to prepare to step into New Caledonia, or China will.

    France does fuck all trade with the Francosphere, less than 10% of their exports go to Africa and that includes countries that aren’t in the Francosphere.

    Nice try Oldsalt!

  137. Mark A

    Baldrick
    #2361936, posted on April 23, 2017 at 3:22 pm

    Provided that we have been correctly supplied with the account information requested, we are entitled to assume that offers and payments are made by you. You should change your password on a regular basis and never disclose it to any third party.

    I do all of that + keep only the minimal amount in the account. It’s a PITA to do, transferring money and withdrawing if winning but it takes only a few minutes.
    When working overseas BF is the only hassle-free account I can use, all others I have to go through my server in Melbourne and the two-way traffic slows things down considerably.

    No TAB or LUX will allow you to log in even when using paid for good VPNs.

    Lax security is a problem, it’s a warning.

  138. Boambee John

    “Vietnam refuses to lift Anzac memorial ban

    Their country, their rules.”

    How long before Turkey imposes the same rules at Gallipoli?

    Will they try a bit of financial or political extortion first?

  139. Boambee John

    test pattern at 1450

    “Should Le Pen, a Putin acolyte, win, we may have to cancel the French sub deal.”

    What more reason could we have to hope she wins, apart from hoping various Cats win their bets?

  140. Fisky

    “Should Le Pen, a Putin acolyte, win, we may have to cancel the French sub deal.”

    The dumbest deal this country has ever done. Good for France though.

  141. Libby Zee

    no sock puppetry here

    There is, but only in the minds of a demented few. They begin salivating every time a newbie emerges or a trigger word/phrase appears in a comment.

  142. test pattern

    ‘The Merlin diamond mine near Borroloola may be the northern tip on a vast east coast treasure trove.

    Geologists have unearthed evidence which suggests the NT and Queensland may be sitting on a treasure trove of rare minerals.’

    http://www.katherinetimes.com.au/story/4607876/diamond-hunt-on-again/?cs=1459

  143. Mark A

    Libby Zee
    #2361951, posted on April 23, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    no sock puppetry here

    Too much protest from you.
    Hitting home much?

  144. Fisky

    Thank you Mitch. The article is completely true. I would say the breakdown between diet and exercise is about 80/20. You might be able to cap your weight with an exercise routine, but you will never make inroads into reducing weight with exercise.

  145. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    How long before Turkey imposes the same rules at Gallipoli?

    Will they try a bit of financial or political extortion first?

    I’m glad I crossed Gallipoli off my bucket list…

    Purely as a hypothetical question –

    “A Kamirian invasion of Australia was repelled in 1942. How would Australians today treat Kamirian tourists who wanted to come to Australia, hold dawn services on the invasion beaches, and visit the monuments commemorating said failed invasion?”

  146. test pattern

    ‘A Kamirian invasion’

    Get it right moron. Kamarian.

  147. Mitch M.

    Fisky,

    It gets worse. A friend recently sent me an abstract stating that continual ingestion of carbs\sugars activates the sympathetic nervous system, this activation has long been associated with CVD. We’ve been fed garbage by nutritionists for decades and still many are reluctant to recant.

  148. Chris

    Philippa’s article
    Philippa thanks for this. It confirms a number of my suspicions, especially that there is a refusal to speak the truth because of the artificial orthodoxy about the nature of being ‘gay’ in the modern cuddly newspeak.

    We have heard of Voltaire’s Bastards, but Cocteau’s Bastards get a free pass. The influence of queerness in the development of postmodern ideologies eg by Foucault and all identity politics is huge. Those of us old enough to remember the drive for ‘open-mindedness’ from the 1970s also remember the queer-political sneers at ‘breeders’ and the ordinary family, the contempt for the rules especially the age of consent and supply of drugs and alcohol; and the rent boys that once were a staple descriptive in crime reports have now vanished.

    The fact is whether ‘forced’ by isolation from women or ‘abused’ as introduction to sex in a queer lifestyle or just flat out gay from birth, the ‘young stuff’ has always been the target of desire in queer culture. Their culture of extreme promiscuity is also concealed but ties with the abuse of large numbers of young people.

    We can particularly enjoy the ongoing sneers of those who claimed any slippery slope argument was just tosh, as we see the fist of the state and the lynch mob deployed against any who contradict the new orthodoxy.

  149. Libby Zee

    Did my comment trigger you, Mark?

  150. test pattern

    “We have to speak the language of truth: African growth pulls us along’

    http://www.france24.com/en/20131204-france-must-double-trade-ties-africa-hollande-economy

    The language of truth? Wha..? Fisky u lumpenhund u couldnt tell the truth if u were waterboarde. Ur a a 1970s concept album without a concept. Great cover art though. Like Aqualung. Just as I picture u sitting on a park bench eyeing little girls with bad intent, snot running down his nose hey aqualung…

  151. Bill Thompson

    Politicians are a funny lot. Always ready to nip off on a taxpayer-funded jaunt somewhere but stop & talk to a member of the public? Not if they can use the security entrance, instead… assuming they can find it. Here’s Peter Dutton arriving at their ABC for “Insiders” this morning.

    https://youtu.be/4uQsUcQY4d8

  152. Fisky

    “We have to speak the language of truth: African growth pulls us along’

    But it’s obviously not true at all – Africa makes up a tiny proportion of French trade. Not very complicated, even for a dummy like you, Oldsalt!

  153. Fisky

    Oh my god, Holland’s approval rating is only 4%! Why am I not surprised that Oldsalt thinks he is a credible authority.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/11/02/mon-dieu-francois-hollandes-approval-rating-is-at-four-percent/

  154. Chris

    In the 1970s we thought Kamaria was a lot closer than Japan.

  155. old bloke

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2361545, posted on April 23, 2017 at 12:06 am

    You’re up late, that’s not good for your health.

    Do you have a reference for this ‘dynasty’ and a floriat? I would be interested to follow it up.

    Not much I’m sorry to say. There is a Wikipedia entry here.

    It seems to me from what you say to be similar to what some call the Cunedda ‘Dynasty’, said to have been led by a Cunedda from Edinburgh to Anglesey to found the Kingdom of Gwynedd.

    I don’t know of the Cunedda Dynasty. The Norse on Anglesey were eventually driven out by the Cymry with the assistance of a mercenary Scottish army, but that doesn’t fit the timeframe of the presence of the Cunedda. It was unfortunate that they lost Anglesey as most trade between Ireland and England, both then and now, goes via Anglesey to Dublin. It would have been a real income earner, charging export taxes at Anglesey for goods bound to Ireland, and then charging import taxes at Dublin.

    Nevertheless, Anglesey retains its Scandinavian name. To the Welsh, it’s always been Ynys Mon.

    One other thought on Geoffrey of Monmouth’s reference to the round table – it may have some historic truth. The Vikings established parliaments everywhere they went, the Althing in Iceland, the Logting in the Faroes, and the Tynwald in Man.

    A parliament differs from autocratic rule in that the leader is regarded as the first amongst peers. The Norse appear to prefer consensual to dictatorial rule, and a round table fits into that style of leadership. Just a guess of course.

  156. srr

    wow, diets, sock puppets, even the naughty bad catholic church and homos, chuck every chat hook out there, but don’t go anywhere near the big global finance news on this economist focused forum … even when it’s as funny as fuck 😆 … 😉 …

    wolfmoon1776 says:
    April 23, 2017 at 12:15 am
    @ https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/04/22/president-donald-trump-captain-of-global-trade-and-finance/

    TRUMP EFFECT

    Trump: Hey, Christine – your underwear is showing!

    Lagarde: WHAT?

    Trump: Just kidding. Your global redistribution of wealth masquerading as “free trade” is over. Don’t worry – we’ll send you the new plan called “fair trade”. See ya, toots.

    Carstens: Christine – what was all that about? What did he say?

    Lagarde: Oh. My underwear was showing. Listen – I have an idea called “better sharing” which means “more inclusive growth” to prevent “inward-looking policies”.

    Carstens: Oh my God. Trump is on to us.

    😉 … 😆

  157. Fisky

    From Oldsalt’s link –

    Economic growth across Africa has exceeded 5 percent per year for the last 10 years and the expansion has been accompanied by growing economic links between the continent and emerging powerhouses like China, India and Brazil.

    France, in contrast, has lost market share across the region.

    Oh dear, we haven’t been telling porkies again, have we Oldsalt? Tut tut!

  158. Mark A

    Libby Zee
    #2361960, posted on April 23, 2017 at 4:19 pm
    Did my comment trigger you, Mark?

    No, not really. Mainly because I don’t give a crap what goes on between yourself and a few others, but try as one might it’s near impossible not to catch a glimpse of any post.

    That’s how I noticed your constant denial of being a sock-puppeteer and also your repeated defense of P.

    Don’t flatter yourself, you are less important than you think.

  159. Makka

    From testpattern’s link;

    President François Hollande called on French business leaders Wednesday to double their trade with Africa, saying doing so would create some 200,000 jobs in France.

    From a Socialist who has destroyed millions of jobs and brought moslem inspired misery to millions more. An economic giant.

  160. Stimpson J. Cat

    They begin salivating every time a newbie emerges

    How old is your persona again?
    Remind me.

  161. struth

    If Le Pen doesn’t win, it will be because socialists have successfully labelled her a socialist.

    Just a national one.

    Until the right pushes back on the lie that national socialists are right wing, people will vote for Hitler because they don’t want to vote for Hitler.

    This lie has been spread since immediately after ww2, started by Stalin.
    It is deeply embedded now and it is a major, major problem.

    When the left lie, (you can tell when they are doing it as their lips are moving) you fight the lie.

    Never let them call it a truth and then you pretend to be something else.
    Look where it has got us.

    ww1 led to ww2 and don’t think that war is still not having a deep effect everywhere.
    Nazis were left wing.
    Hitler called himself a socialist.
    Just like Gillard.
    On the same side as “punch a Nazi” Monty.
    A classic example.
    And that one fact Monty does not want to know.
    He avoids it like the evil fat prick he is.

    Nazis are govern from the top down, welfare state, social engineering , antifi creating , totalitarian socialists.
    It has long since passed as a time to kill the lie.

  162. Fisky

    Hooray! Dutton celebrates 1000 days without a single boat arrival!

    https://twitter.com/PeterDutton_MP/status/856032006198542336

    Moron in Dutton’s Twitter replies is still running stupid propaganda from January 2014. The cyclone season! Next up, remember most illegal immigrants are Pommie visa overstayers…

    Stuart Osborn‏ @StuartOsborn5 56s56 seconds ago
    More
    Replying to @PeterDutton_MP
    Yes they are working but during cyclone season you see less boats how many IFFVs have been apprehended this year?

  163. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    In the 1970s we thought Kamaria was a lot closer than Japan.

    I’m trying to remember the A.D.F. exercise, based on repelling a Kamarian invasion, in the mid Eighties, where, during the build up, the Greens announced that they had negotiated a peace treaty with the Kamarians, so the exercise wouldn’t be necessary.

  164. Libby Zee

    I don’t give a crap what goes on between yourself and a few others

    Of course you don’t, Mark. It was someone else who made that earlier comment under your name.

  165. herodotus

    Libby Zee is every bit as boring as Gargoolery.

  166. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I must sort out that potato gratin recipe and set about burning it soon.
    Simples Lizzie. Only from Aldi, four in a box

    Mayfly, it was an effin’ triumph. Fried the onions and a little garlic first in butter, whacked it in a large low dish of sliced potato with heaps of poured cream mixed in, ground sea-salt and pepper over the lot, a few knobs of butter in it for good luck, opened a pak of shaved top quality parmesan over the top (didn’t use it all, but hearty), and into the oven at 180 degrees for thirty five minutes to cook until brown on top but not all over coz that is burned.

    Neither of our just departed guests has phoned in yet with a heart attack. I reasoned that they were not yet quite in the range for that. I gave them alfoiled salmon in dill and a limed asparagus and green leaf salad to maintain their healthy standards. I neglected to mention they were having six thousand calories for every spoonful of my delicious potato gratin and they wolfed the lot like the calorically-deprived lifestylers they are. I thought we’d have some leftovers for the kids, but they even scraped the little brown bits off from around the dish. Hairy t’inks dis guy is always underfed; apparently he hits the pizza big-time whenever they go out to the footie together. He’s not allowed pizza at home.

    If they were drinkers we would still be carousing, but they are not so we aren’t. Even so, we had some pleasant conversation, and a few laughs of the more sedate kind. They are nice, younger than us, and not long married, not especially green or left and typical first home buyers. I gave them humungous serves of Streets Vanilla Ice Cream (Hairy’s supermarket choice, he has no idea) and fresh raspberries to finish off with, and finish it off they did. They went at that ice-cream like kids at a six-year olds’ party. Turns out Hairy did have some idea after all.

    Meanwhile their dog pee’d on our terrace and I heaved a sigh of relief that our Persian carpets missed it this time. Attapuss was cowering under his blankie all arvo in his room. He dislikes entertaining.

    I don’t mind it when everything works out well in the end, and I don’t stuff it up. 🙂

  167. test pattern

    ‘In the 1970s we thought Kamaria was a lot closer than Japan.’

    Kamaria was Indon. Dogfaces. Kamarian is a Moluucan Lang. The best they ever did was capture Wyndham one pitchblack.

    ‘..in the mid Eighties, where, during the build up, the Greens announced..’

    There was no Green Party in Darwin in the mid 80s.

  168. egg_

    They begin salivating every time a newbie emerges

    The ‘friendly persona’ mask is cracking?
    What’s next, Conchita’s Wurst?

  169. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There was no Green Party in Darwin in the mid 80s.

    Show me where I mentioned the Darwin Greens?

  170. Boambee John

    Zulu at 1609

    Reasonable question.

    However, the Gallipoli ceremonies actually give Turkey the chance to glory in its victory, as would your hypothetical Kamarian example.

    Long Tan, OTOH, was an Australian victory, giving a different dynamic.

    On the Turkey case, I suspect that Islamic triumphalism in the present will outweigh the joys of celebrating a victory in the distant past. After pushing for some infidel self abasement to keep the practice going for a while, Turkey will eventually declare the area a monument to the glories of Islamic victory over an invading Crusader army.

  171. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    However, the Gallipoli ceremonies actually give Turkey the chance to glory in its victory, as would your hypothetical Kamarian example.

    The guide that showed us over the battlefield did point out that the Turks, from a country regarded as “The Sick Man of Europe” did successfully repel an invasion for the fist time in hundreds of years.

  172. custard

    Baldrick

    I love those AIF memoirs you link to at the start of new open threads.

    Is there any reference to my great uncle Edward (Ned) Castieau?

    I understand he was in the 1st light horse.

    With Anzac Day just around the corner it has me thinking of his service.

  173. cohenite

    When Mom catches you playing with the other Antifa dickheads.

  174. Boambee John

    Zulu

    A collapse of the “off April” tourist market will hasten that time.

    While lotsa money is coming in, OK, but if Islamist harassment, official or unofficial, destroys the business then no more ANZAC Day ceremonies will be allowed.

    As an aside, I think there should be a project to remove Commonwealth war graves from Islamic nations, starting with the crazies like Gaza, Syria if there are any there, and Libya.

    Then work the way through the rest in decreasing order of Islamist craziness.

  175. Geriatric Mayfly

    Well done Lizzie. One eye on the pot and another up the chimney works every time. but keep in mind those inferior Aldi whatsits for emergencies.

  176. Tom

    Streets Vanilla Ice Cream (Hairy’s supermarket choice, he has no idea)

    Ahem, Lizzie. Hairy knows plenty. Don’t listen to the peanut gallery here. Streets vanilla is the Rolls Royce of ice-cream — the best by a mile.

  177. Mark A

    Libby Zee
    #2361976, posted on April 23, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    Of course you don’t, Mark. It was someone else who made that earlier comment under your name.

    You don’t read well or ignore the parts that don’t fit your narrative.
    I also said it’s near impossible not to notice parts of posts’ no matter how fast one tries to scroll, but have it your way.

  178. Their country, their rules.”
    How long before Turkey imposes the same rules at Gallipoli?

    Turkey lost that war.
    Spot the difference?

  179. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    As an aside, I think there should be a project to remove Commonwealth war graves from Islamic nations, starting with the crazies like Gaza, Syria if there are any there, and Libya.

    “Australia brings it’s dead home, to rest in peace, in Australian soil.”

  180. Boambee John

    Custard

    1754 John Edward Castieau embarked as a reinforcement fot the 10th Light Horse between February 1915 and February 1916.

    Given his relatively high number, probably later in the period.

    Do you want me to dig a bit more?

  181. srr

    A2 says:
    April 23, 2017 at 3:03 am

    OK. Those tweets you posted* (Andi Lee) are hors de combat. They have lost, and ‘they’ know why.

    It is a new day and and the twitter asshats you posted can not change that.

    *
    Peter McLoughlin @pmclauth

    Vatican, OIC, UN, EU, IMF: all want a one-world government.
    Talk of “global community”, oxymoron of 1st order

    http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/justpeace/documents/rc_pc_justpeace_doc_20111024_nota_en.html
    5:42 PM – 6 Apr 2017
    ___

    Sojourners ✔ @Sojourners

    Breaking precedent, Trump has not reached out to meet with head of state @Pontifex at Italy #G7
    https://sojo.net/articles/unusual-omission-no-trump-pope-meeting-planned-during-italy-g7 … @g7
    11:31 PM – 12 Apr 2017
    ___

    Ernest Radeljaš⚡️⚡️ @ERadeljasch

    #InfoSurf #HolySee! #Vatican says it would #welcome #visit by #Trump! #GB http://www.catholicnews.com/services/englishnews/2017/vatican-says-it-would-welcome-visit-by-trump.cfm
    1:59 PM – 23 Apr 2017

  182. Libby Zee

    I saw all of what you said, Mark. And here you are back again, still trying to justify your earlier comment.

  183. Mike of Marion

    Tom
    #2361989, posted on April 23, 2017 at 5:09 pm
    Streets Vanilla Ice Cream (Hairy’s supermarket choice, he has no idea)

    Ahem, Lizzie. Hairy knows plenty. Don’t listen to the peanut gallery here. Streets vanilla is the Rolls Royce of ice-cream — the best by a mile.

    Ahem!! Golden North Vanilla Ice-cream!

  184. Boambee John

    Custard

    A JG Castieau (could be a typo for JE) served during WW II in the WA 19th Garrison Battalion.

    There is a group photo including him in the Collection, number 058186.

  185. Gab

    Yes, I realise times have changed, but have we become such a nation of shrinking violets that we don’t have the resilience of spirit to refuse to take offence at a tasteless attempt at humour?

    Yes. Imagine that, no physical attack, just words and he should have been shouted down by the crowd near him for his idiotic remarks. And that should have been the end of it but just like neighbour betrayed neighbour during any fascist or socialist or communist oppression, Australians are behaving the same way in theory. A nation of dibber-dobbers indeed.

  186. test pattern

    Good job Malcolm

    ‘The Turnbull visit itself may go down in history as the most disastrous by any Australian Prime Minister. Turnbull crashed from one public relations catastrophe to another. In only a day and a half he managed to get the entire domestic media offside, to offend many influential politicians by interfering in domestic politics, to insult Kokoda Track veterans of both nations and to leave Papua New Guinea suspecting his Government is utterly clueless and utterly ineffective.’

    http://www.pngblogs.com/2017/04/a-desperate-turnbull-stands-by-weak.html

  187. egg_

    River Rocket Oliver

    Sure that’s not his pr0n name?

  188. Boambee John

    The personal file of 1754 JE Castieau is on line at the National Archives under Series B2455

  189. srr

    🙄

    Gab
    #2361631, posted on April 23, 2017 at 8:18 am

    In case anyone missed it amidst the srr deluge …

    What, you mean the deluge of a variety of hot topics at home and abroad (including the one you had to wave about, yet again), as opposed to the usual deluge from the usual bitter bitches bitching about bitter bitches bitching about each (imaginary) other … fuck you’ve become a desperately sad case.

    A n y w a y …

    incoherent rambler
    #2361728, posted on April 23, 2017 at 10:01 am

    I’m considering trolling a Lizard on the cat.

    A blog filled with imaginary travel diaries and nail polish colours does little address the pressing issues we face, like erosion of liberty, fscked education systems, political corruption, the rise of untouchable organized crime (CFMEU), our failing infrastructure (e.g. electrickery), the political power of the ABC.

    I’m coming for you tweety bird.

    Go for it, please. 🙂
    I can remember when the cat introduced me to people actually working on solving that heavy list of problems (such as J.B.P.), instead of being where those good men and their great works are routinely buried under rancid slews of betterer than thou cow plop.

    btw, that IMF news seems to have struck much of the world’s Soros troll army dumb; that, and/or the bloody mercenaries payments aren’t flowing quite as freely … 😀

  190. custard

    Boambee John,

    Thank you very much for these insights.

    My knowledge of my own families history is not up to scratch.

    I will consult the family tree and try and line up a few dots.

  191. srr

    Voice of Europe‏ @V_of_Europe 13h13 hours ago

    It Begins: Europe’s Rising Islam-Based Political Parties
    https://www.investigativeproject.org/6038/europe-rising-islam-based-political-parties#.WPuoXrjrOAU.twitter
    ..
    Armed police and soldiers banned from protecting French polling booths
    because of a ‘democratic rule’.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/795167/French-election-latest-polling-stations-terrorist-polling-booths

  192. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Philippa thanks for this. It confirms a number of my suspicions, especially that there is a refusal to speak the truth because of the artificial orthodoxy about the nature of being ‘gay’ in the modern cuddly newspeak.

    Yes, a well-constructed and argued article Philippa. I read it last week when our Quadrant arrived.

    Young boys have always been a gay target. You point this out well, and offer some useful suggestions for reform.

  193. rickw

    “Australia brings it’s dead home, to rest in peace, in Australian soil.”

    A bit fucking pointless when Government policy for 30 years has been aimed at turning Australia into a slice of Syria by importing every muzzo dirt bag they could lay their hands on.

  194. Infidel Tiger

    In an interview with Diane Sawyer on news show 20/20, Jenner said the children still call her “Dad” and added the reality of her transition has been difficult.

    Kids say the darnedest things.

  195. Drink-up Socrates

    A mate convinced me to reluctantly attend the Caboolture vintage aircraft air show yesterday.
    Reluctance soon turned to emotion.
    I didn’t believe that I would ever see a Bristol Fighter (Grandad) let alone see one in the air. That was a thrill.
    And then a Hawker Demon (Dad).
    The WW1 replicas were extraordinary including a Focker DVII with its screaming rotary engine.
    Well recommended.
    Dedicated deep pocketed people.

  196. Rev. Archibald

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2361788, posted on April 23, 2017 at 10:58 am
    Yeow. People for lunch…

    ..

    Cannibal.

  197. Gab

    “Australia brings it’s dead home, to rest in peace, in Australian soil.”

    A bit fucking pointless when Government policy for 30 years has been aimed at turning Australia into a slice of Syria by importing every muzzo dirt bag they could lay their hands on.

    Solid point that.

  198. calli

    Seven news full of North Korea’s threat to Australia, with a handful of wild-eyed academics jowl wobbling and warning portentously.

    Meanwhile, Pence pats koalas.

  199. Delta A

    Peter van Wrongalot suddenly touting for Kelly O’D. The $Oz – google:

    Peta Credlin could have shut down O’Dwyer challenge story quickly

  200. Rev. Archibald

    Grigory still slithering around wearing Libby Zee like a grotesque skin suit?
    Freak.

  201. Delta A

    Another disturbing report from the Weekend $Oz. Google:

    Revealed: How police grilled grieving son and blamed mum for flood deaths

    EXCLUSIVE

  202. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    erosion of liberty, fscked education systems, political corruption, the rise of untouchable organized crime (CFMEU), our failing infrastructure (e.g. electrickery), the political power of the ABC.

    There are often comments on the Open Thread about each and every one of these issues.

    Philippa has written a very interesting article in Quadrant about issues to do with homosexuality within the Catholic Church and in society at large. Enjoin a debate rather than whinge and support those who make threats (as in ‘coming for you Tweety-Bird’).

    Here’s a quote: “We may be telling Royal Commissioners that we now have transparency and accountability, and perhaps we do with children, but we have a long way to go when dealing with adult boundary violations and other failures in clerical celibacy”. Agree or not? Does she offer useful solutions? ie. better data collection re all types of violations, careful screening of candidates with better seminary experiences, better pastoral care of diocesan priests, recognition of the nature of priestly celibacy as a sacrifice for higher things. GO.

    As an avid watcher of Father Ted, there did seem to be in that other world of Ireland a social and spiritual ‘world of priesthood’ that validated an individual priest in his choice. Now lost?

  203. Tailgunner

    Not to win the first round… to win outright in the first round.

    Mark, we’re having a drink when you get back behind enemy lines.
    Respect

  204. Delta A

    Can someone confirm that the google links posted from the $Oz actually work. I’m reluctant to copy loads of text, but some of these articles would be of great interest to many Cats.

  205. Tailgunner

    Grigory still slithering around wearing Libby Zee like a grotesque skin suit?
    Freak.

    Libbezee is fine.
    Quality poster. Times against fitness competitors coming shortly.
    I’m more worried about P.
    IsPOK?

  206. Tailgunner

    Hey TopEnder – do you remember your Duck’N’Cover training?
    Fire up the Patriots mate!

  207. Boambee John

    Custard

    Back after a break.

    To read the file, go to http://www.naa.gov.au. Look for Search the Collection high on the main page, click, enter Castieau and the date bracket 1914-1919. Look for B2455 and choose your individual.

  208. Boambee John

    For the WW II person, same start but date bracket 1939-1945. Look for B883 or B884.

  209. Tel

    A bit fucking pointless when Government policy for 30 years has been aimed at turning Australia into a slice of Syria by importing every muzzo dirt bag they could lay their hands on.

    I have some Syrian neighbours and they are incredibly nice people.

  210. Baldrick

    custard
    #2361985, posted on April 23, 2017 at 5:02 pm
    Baldrick
    I love those AIF memoirs you link to at the start of new open threads.
    Is there any reference to my great uncle Edward (Ned) Castieau?

    custard, have a look here and here.

    The 10th Light Horse brief unit history can found here.

    The 10th Light Horse was involved in the ill-fated attack at The Nek. Seems your great uncle was allotted as reinforcements to the Regiment to bring it back up to strength.

  211. Nick

    I’m more worried about P.
    IsPOK?

    Better out than in Gunner and don’t drink it.

  212. Baldrick

    More on your great uncle here custard.

  213. calli

    Philippa’s areticle was insightful and very close to home. I’m still pondering parts of it.

    Thanks Philippa.

  214. Bruce of Newcastle

    Can someone confirm that the google links posted from the $Oz actually work.

    They don’t Delta – or at least without a subscription all you get is the paywall.
    The cached links do work however.

  215. Andrew M.

    Tel says:
    >> I have some Syrian neighbours and they are incredibly nice people.

    Muslim Iranian Kurds next door. They are supposed to be slaying me, the infidel, but all they do is send me their delicious charcoal grilled barbecued halal chicken about once per month. Taking care of neighbours is the charitable Muslim thing to do, they say.
    They’ve been doing it for nearly a year now, I’ve never given them a single thing in return.
    Not all Muslims are the same. Difficult to hate the stereotype when the reality is different.

  216. Libby Zee

    IsPOK?

    What is POK? And what (how much) is a smoky?

  217. old bloke

    Lizzie, I responded to your questions from last night at 4:29PM, but my reply is waiting for moderation.

    I don’t know why it’s there, I can’t see any naughty words.

  218. Tailgunner

    I saw all of what you said, Mark. And here you are back again, still trying to justify your earlier comment.

    Trolling101.
    It always comes back to Fundamentals in life.
    Get a 4chan account, Romanian.
    You’ve got the skills to pay the Bills.

  219. Roger

    She is doing worryingly well.

    Not in Paris, testpattern.

    Do try to pay attention.

  220. Tailgunner

    What is POK? And what (how much) is a smoky?

    Grigory IS just a program.
    Disappointing.
    No heads lined up in the 80s deep freezer JC.

  221. Tailgunner

    Dexter.
    #stillWinning

  222. Libby Zee

    I didn’t think Mark was trolling. Just trying to justify having commented.

    What is POK, and how much is a smoky?

  223. Roger

    As an aside, I think there should be a project to remove Commonwealth war graves from Islamic nations, starting with the crazies like Gaza, Syria if there are any there, and Libya.

    Seconded.

    There have already been reports of Islamists desecrating Australian (and British) war graves in Libya.

    Access to some of these areas may be problematic, but we should be working at it systematically.

  224. Tailgunner

    Better out than in Gunner and don’t drink it.

    P gave us Walgett.
    Bless.

  225. Roger

    They’ve been doing it for nearly a year now, I’ve never given them a single thing in return.

    You’re letting the side down badly, Andrew. Don’t be such a slacker! 🙂

  226. JC

    WSJ Review and Outlook

    Communist NYC mayor ignites a smuggling boom. (No pun).

    Bill de Blasio has a plan to make New York City more lucrative for cigarette smugglers, organized crime and terrorists. That’s not the way the mayor would put it. But that will be the effect of his new bid to raise the minimum price of cigarettes to $13 a pack from $10.50.

    High taxes already make cigarettes legally sold in New York state the most expensive in the nation, and New York City is even more expensive with its own layer of taxes. Not coincidentally, the Empire State has the highest smuggling rate in the country. A January study from the Tax Foundation reports that 55.4% of cigarettes consumed in New York state are from smuggled sources.

    Mr. de Blasio says making cigarettes more expensive in the Big Apple will drive down the number of city smokers. But what he’s really doing is feeding an already huge black market that funds terrorists and organized crime—in addition to folks like the Queens man busted last year after cops found hundreds of thousands of illegal cigarettes and fake tax stamps in a garage. Two years ago the State Department released a report called “The Global Illicit Trade in Tobacco: A Threat to National Security,” saying that cigarette smuggling provides funding for everything from terrorism and human trafficking to weapons.

    The smuggling boom means that New York’s police are devoting more effort to chasing down “loosies”—untaxed, black-market cigarettes. This can’t be the best use of scarce police resources, and Eric Garner died on Staten Island in 2014 after police put him in a chokehold after suspecting him of selling smuggled smokes.

    By increasing the already huge price difference between smuggled and lawful cigarettes, the mayor will drive up profits in the black market, diverting even more business from honest shopkeepers and bodega owners to those selling the cheaper, illegal smokes, and feeding other criminality. But Mr. de Blasio’s intentions are good, which is all that seems to matter in modern progressivism.

    Incredible.. 55% of cigs sold in NY are smuggled in ! Great racket.

  227. Mike of Marion

    Venezuela

    Really up against it!!

  228. Boambee John

    Custard

    I commented that 1754 was a highish number.

    Reason is that in WW I each infantry battalion, light horse regiment, machine gun company ran its own number series (not all of which were used). Atrillery, service corps, medical, flying corps ran their separate consolidated number series.

    Some lower numbers were used more tham 100 times. Even the higher numbers were used over 60 times (the number of infantry battalions).

    Officers did not have numbers, and soldiers commissioned from the ranks lost their numbers.

    A light horse regiment sailed with around 600 “numbered” men, but because not all numbers were used the numbers could exceed 600. About 1000 “numbered” men sailed with an infantry battalion.

    Sorry to bore the rest of you with this arcana.

  229. Tintarella di Luna

    Revealed: How police grilled grieving son and blamed mum for flood deaths

    EXCLUSIVE

    I read this with a mixture of anger and sadness. The details are just so awful. In a fit of pique a policeman punishes a woman and her son for what he’s decided is a capital offence. Those 2011 floods were absolutely devastating, so many families bearing losses will never be the same again, certainly Blake Rice and John Tyson won’t be, that’s for sure.

  230. Boambee John

    Roger at 1900

    There were problems in Gaza years ago.

  231. Top Ender

    What is this Patriots stuff, Tailgunner?

    Hey Phillippa, read your article – very interesting and well-written.

  232. Dr Fred Lenin

    Marine le Pen will probably poll really well in rural France and tge smaller towns which are the reak]l essence of France . These peopke are devoted to France and its traditions ,I cant imagine my Norman relatives supporting their country against flooding it with these sal etrangeres And the EU trying to destroy nations,and bring in big brother.
    The urban French will support Marine as they watch Their cities into no go ghettos and restricting their right to enjoy life without terror threats . The intellectual left the eurocrats ,and the crony capitalists will of course be against her but they are a minority as they are here ,people have stopped listening to their bullshit how low have the mighty fallen .

  233. Roger

    Heh:

    ABC describing former Socialist Party apparatchik, elite public servant and investment banker Emmanuel Macron as an “outsider”.

  234. Bruce of Newcastle

    Turkey lost that war.
    Spot the difference?

    They have nukes and we don’t?
    Daniel Pipes mentions this in an oped in the Weekend Oz.

    Erdogan: Turkey’s man of mystery armed with extra powers

    Removing US nuclear weapons from the Incirlik Air Base would be one step in the right direction; even better would be to put Ankara on notice that its ­active NATO membership is in jeopardy pending a dramatic turnaround in behaviour.

    He also has an interesting surmise:

    Erdogan’s Islamist supporters sometimes suggest that he is on his way to declaring himself caliph. As the 100th anniversary of the Istanbul-based caliphate’s abolition approaches, he may find this tempting; depending on whether he uses the Islamic or Christian calendar, that could happen, respectively, on March 10, 2021 or March 4, 2024. You read it here first.

    Sounds like ISIS has some competition in the caliphate stakes.
    Btw this is a cached link so should work.

  235. Boambee John

    “could exceed 600” = “highest number used among the “originals” could be higher than 600″.

    To clarify.

  236. Top Ender

    Oh, now I get you Tailgunner. For some reason I was thinking of the motorcycle group.

    I have three of these in my back yard already.

  237. H B Bear

    Libbezee is fine.
    Quality poster. Times against fitness competitors coming shortly.

    Think this could be a personal best. Don’t keep us in suspense Gargroogs.

  238. Delta A

    I read this with a mixture of anger and sadness.

    It smacks of collusion, skewing reports to exonerate the telephonist.

    I’m surprised there hasn’t been any Cat discussion about this – or other contentious articles – raised in the papers this weekend.

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