Open Forum: April 22, 2017

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  1. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A secret police video of an interview with an 11-year-old boy who watched his mother and brother drown in Toowoomba six years ago has cast new light on the investigat­ion that blamed the doomed woman for driving in floods — and publicly exonerated the triple-0 call-taker who castig­ated her and assigned the lowest priority for help.

    The video — filmed at Toowoomba police station on January 25, 2011, and obtained by The Weekend Australian — reveals that police relied on different sections­ of an interview with the child, Blake Rice, days after his family’s funerals, resulting in an official ­report that Donna Rice drove recklessly into the flooded intersection where she and her 13-year-old son Jordan died.

    Donna Rice’s family has ­endured six years of devastation, never able to set the record straight and clear her name. Blake, now 17, said yesterday: “It’s been six years of struggle, to prove what they already knew.”

    Donna’s partner of 30 years and father of their four sons, John Tyson, believes that blaming Donna for her and Jordan’s deaths enabled police to divert ­attention from the call-taker, Jason Wheeler.

    The role of Senior Constable Wheeler was described later in the police Taskforce Galaxy report: “On the evidence it would be reasonable for the Coroner to be … satisfied, within the terms of his investigation that the responsible services did all that was possible in the circumstances to respond to the emergency triple-0 calls ­regarding the deceased.”

    Yet Constable Wheeler had listed Rice as a Priority 3. During the subsequent inquest, another officer, David Isherwood, was asked what Priority 3 meant.

    “It’s, ah, routine,” Detective ­Inspector Isherwood said. Prior­ity 1 signalled a “life-threatening situation”, such as a homicide; ­Priority 2 meant “life-threatening urgency”; Priority 3 was “something you get to if you’ve got no Priority 2s and 3s to address”.

    For Donna and Jordan Rice, Priority 3 meant the difference ­between life and death. No help would be sent until bystanders rang 20 minutes later to report the family on top of their car in the water. By then it was too late.

    From the Oz. I’m with Tintarella…

  2. Roger

    Roger at 1900

    There were problems in Gaza years ago.

    Yes, back in the 2000s iirc, BJ.

    This matter is dear to my heart.

  3. Boambee John

    Custard

    Just noticed that NAA has two files on JE Csatieau, one under B2455 and one under PP869/1.

    Not sure what the latter is ahout.

    There is also a JGB Castieau, so the WW II photo might not be a typo.

  4. custard

    Thanks for the links Cats, my Anzac Day can now be a bit more focused.

  5. .

    erosion of liberty, fscked education systems, political corruption, the rise of untouchable organized crime (CFMEU), our failing infrastructure (e.g. electrickery), the political power of the ABC.

    You need to go hardcore on a constitution that is radical and plain language. Without it, it will simply be ignored and twisted out of recognition.

    Texas Constitution 2000

    Complete Document
    Adopted by the Texas Constitutional Convention of 1997
    on
    12 Dec 1998

    http://archive.li/C94Uz

    Article 2. Limits of Government

    Section 1. Government has no inherent rights or powers, neither implicit nor explicit. This constitution assigns certain functions to the artificial entities called governments created by this constitution and authorizes those artificial entities to take certain actions necessary to accomplish the assigned functions. No national or county government entity or official shall assume any function or authorization not specifically assigned or authorized by this constitution.

    Section 2. Government shall never infringe the rights of individuals nor modify any governmental processes, duties, responsibilities, or form of government as specified in this constitution.

    Section 3. Government shall never operate outside the limits of a budget which shall never exceed ninety percent of the revenue collected the previous year.

    Section 4. Government shall never grant monopolies or perpetuities nor in any way restrict or control the free flow of trade within or across the geographical boundaries of Texas.

    Section 5. Government shall never restrict individuals from assembling to train with arms for the individual or collective defense of life, liberty, or property.

    Section 6. Government shall never restrict nor control the manufacture, sale, purchase, ownership, use, storage, transportation, or carrying of any arms, parts, accessories, or ammunition.

    Section 7. Government shall never issue charters, licenses, certificates of competency, nor any form of recognition or registration for any organization or individual.

    Section 8. Government shall never promote, control, nor interfere with any religious or philosophical organization or activity.

    Section 9. Government shall never restrict nor control the free flow of ideas using any present or future form or medium of expression.

    Section 10. Government shall never invade the privacy of any individual without due process of law.

    Section 11. Government shall never operate, own, control, nor fund any means of education not specifically related to performing the functions of government authorized by this constitution.

    Section 12. Government shall never infringe the right of the free movement of individuals within or across the geographical boundaries of Texas.

    Section 13. Government shall never borrow money nor pledge the assets of individuals or non-governmental organizations.

    Section 14. Government shall never offer nor provide gifts, subsidies, or assistance of any kind to any individual, group of individuals, organization, or nation.

    Section 15. Government shall never accept gifts, subsidies, or assistance of any kind from any foreign government, organization, or nation.

    Section 16. Government shall never issue currency nor cause currency to be issued.

    Section 17. No organization established, controlled, employed, or enabled by government shall violate any part of this constitution.

    Section 18. Government shall never own title to any real property which is not specifically authorized by this constitution.

    Section 19. Government shall never restrict individuals from freely associating or assembling.

    Section 20. Government shall never extend payment, credit, gifts, subsidies, endowments, retirement benefits, nor anything else of value or worth to any individual beyond the time of actual service to the government in whatever capacity.

    Section 21. Government shall never impose taxation of any kind.

    Section 22. Government shall never own subsurface water nor unprocessed minerals of any sort.

    Section 23. Government shall never own methods of extracting any mineral, including water, from it’s source.

    Section 24. Government shall never regulate the use of publicly owned rights of way.

    Section 25. Government shall never impose emergency powers nor suspend any part of this constitution, neither in time of war nor for any other reason.

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    Incredible.. 55% of cigs sold in NY are smuggled in ! Great racket.

    I’m mystified that these people are fine with smoking pot, and one and all of them want to legalize MJ, but they regard tobacco like ebola. Very strange worldview.

  7. Roger

    I’m mystified that these people are fine with smoking pot, and one and all of them want to legalize MJ, but they regard tobacco like ebola. Very strange worldview.

    You’re skating close to heresy, BoN.

    😉

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    Pumped hydro power station ideal for SA Spencer Gulf site, EnergyAustralia says

    Betcha it just happens to be the only place in South Australia where the critically endangered lesser spotted newt lives.

  9. Bruce of Newcastle

    Doesn’t live. Sorry.

  10. Fisky

    Complete disaster for the Eagles! They will never win another premiership again!

  11. Tintarella di Luna

    Mr Rusty if you’re in the clowder. Will see you at the do on the 27th

  12. .

    There ought to be no taxes or regulation of tobacco or marijuana.

    The government already wastes too much taxpayers’ funds and in small amounts, neither are particularly harmful. There are unpublished benefits to tobacco use and marijuana can treat some forms of cancer, alleviate pain and treat otherwise rare, horrible and difficult to treat diseases.

    The indigent would have more disposable income and more potent drugs may be disincentivised.

  13. calli

    areticle

    Is anyone missing an “e”? Going cheap.

  14. Snoopy

    Pumped hydro power station ideal for SA Spencer Gulf site, EnergyAustralia says

    To reduce maintenance costs electricity produced from the pumped hydro power station could first desalinate the sea water.

  15. Roger;

    As an aside, I think there should be a project to remove Commonwealth war graves from Islamic nations, starting with the crazies like Gaza, Syria if there are any there, and Libya.

    Seconded.
    There have already been reports of Islamists desecrating Australian (and British) war graves in Libya.
    Access to some of these areas may be problematic, but we should be working at it systematically.

    I’ve been pushing this for five years now. Rebury our soldiers in a ring around Canberra. There’s enough to do it five deep.
    Remind the shiny pants bastards who saved their arses for them.

  16. Snoopy

    Is anyone missing an “e”? Going cheap

    I could have used one this morning but hopefully it’s all been forgotten.

  17. Zyconoclast

    Streets Vanilla Ice Cream (Hairy’s supermarket choice, he has no idea)

    Ahem, Lizzie. Hairy knows plenty. Don’t listen to the peanut gallery here. Streets vanilla is the Rolls Royce of ice-cream — the best by a mile.

    Tom
    No chance.
    It contains only about 7% fat and describes itself as fat reduced. It is also has a relatively high over run (pumped air volume)

    Connoisseur Vanilla has more than double the fat much less over run.

    Sara Lee French Vanilla is also a very good option with a similar fat and low over run.

    For cheaper, better than Streets, options Bulla Vanilla and A2 Vanilla are also good.

  18. .

    To reduce maintenance costs electricity produced from the pumped hydro power station could first desalinate the sea water.

    Great, snakes to eat bird eggs, gorillas to eat the snakes, hopefully winter comes and kills the gorillas.

  19. Chris

    Is anyone missing an “e”? Going cheap.

    ars technica
    This lot might own it…

  20. Roger

    Remind the shiny pants bastards who saved their arses for them.

    +1

    It’s one matter to leave Australian soldiers’ remains to rest in France, Belgium, Germany and even Turkey.

    Libya, Syria & Egypt are another matter entirely.

  21. MsDolittle

    doc is doing the dishes after Melbourne Cat meet. He is a good man. We had an extra good time here tonight..imagine being able to say what you want, when you want. Convivial party.

  22. .

    roger

    How much would that cost? Would their families agree? Would their churches agree? Would the host governments agree? Can we afford to do it now – you’ve seen the debt were racking up haven’t you?

  23. calli

    You’re a champ, Snoopy. 😃

    A genteel one.

  24. Bruce of Newcastle

    Why?

    Boy stopped at Broken Hill after ‘driving solo across NSW’ on way to Perth

    A 12-year-old boy has been stopped by police after he attempted to drive across Australia on his own, getting almost a third of the way there.

    He was stopped by Highway Patrol officers at about 11am when they noticed his car’s bumper was dragging along the ground.

    “Officers from Broken Hill Highway Patrol stopped a motor vehicle on the Barrier Highway due to defects which made the vehicle hazardous,” the spokesperson said. “Checks revealed the driver to be a 12-year-old boy travelling from Kendall NSW on his way to Perth,” the spokesperson said.

    To get that far he must’ve filled up somewhere. So he seems to’ve had money and the servo attendants let him pay for the petrol without saying much.

    Used to live in Kendall, which is about as obscure place a in eastern NSW as you can get.

  25. srr

    VOTING SUSPENDED AT FRENCH CONSULATE AFTER BOMB THREAT
    by BREITBART LONDON

  26. .

    Is this “March for Science” malarkey just another clanging of the begging bowl for universities and AGW research funds?

  27. Mullumhillbilly

    Is anyone missing an “e”? Going cheap.

    No, but I could do with a reticle for my monocular. Helps put it all in perspective

  28. .

    How much public funding did Thomas Edison and Nikola Tesla get?

  29. Sydney Boy

    There are unpublished benefits to tobacco use and marijuana can treat some forms of cancer, alleviate pain and treat otherwise rare, horrible and difficult to treat diseases.

    Absolute bullshit. Marijuana can treat some cancers? And the results are “unpublished”? Might as well go and join Meryl Dorey on the science thread, dot.

  30. MsDolittle

    Oh well Jupes.. at least you met us guys.

  31. Snoopy

    Is this “March for Science” malarkey just another clanging of the begging bowl for universities and AGW research funds?

    No, it’s serious. When there is at least one educated person on the loose that claims gorillas eat snakes, scientists clearly have their work cut out and need more dosh.

  32. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    How much would that cost? Would their families agree?

    Tony Abbott, when he was Prime Minister brought back the bodies of those soldiers killed in action in Vietnam, and, as was policy at the time, buried in a military cemetery in the nearest Commonwealth country – in this case, Malaysia. IIRC, the families were offered the choice, and some said, no, leave them there.

  33. Zyconoclast

    ABC describing former Socialist Party apparatchik, elite public servant and investment banker Emmanuel Macron as an “outsider”.

    This is correct.
    He is outside the presidential palace.

  34. Carpe Jugulum

    Connoisseur Vanilla has more than double the fat much less over run.

    Sara Lee French Vanilla is also a very good option with a similar fat and low over run.

    For cheaper, better than Streets, options Bulla Vanilla and A2 Vanilla are also good.

    That stuff is rubbish compared to Meiji ultra vanilla.

  35. Nick

    imagine being able to say what you want, when you want. Convivial party.

    What? Just wait till Aunt Gillian finds out.

  36. Snoopy

    I want this:a luxury tank

    I can see a racing competition of these eclipsing F1.

  37. egg_

    Is this “March for Science” malarkey just another clanging of the begging bowl for universities and AGW research funds?

    +1

    Trough dwellers.

  38. Bruce of Newcastle

    Nut news.

    Nuthouse: Walnut and chestnut pickers go to extremes in fruit picking frenzy

    Nut farmer Robyn Scrivener has seen people throw shoes, even logs, to remove walnuts and chestnuts from her family’s trees at Mt Irvine in the Blue Mountains. If they aren’t careful to “lock down picket fencing,” visitors will attempt to dislodge nuts with them, too, she said.

    While most visitors are well behaved, some go to extremes. Kookootonga warns visitors not to “climb or throw objects at the trees as the risk of falls and injuries is too high and the nearest hospital is 45 minutes drive away”.

    The March-April nut season in NSW is celebrated and promoted by the slow food movement, yet visitors to Blue Mountains chestnut and walnut farms aren’t always willing to wait until the ripe nuts fall to the ground.

    Ah. The “slow food movement”! Which apparently includes pulling star pickets out of the ground, beating trees with them and stealing the walnuts. Or something.

    After a huge Easter rush, farms were picked clean of nuts faster than expected.

    Anne Elliott, the leader of the Slow Food movement in the Blue Mountains, said chestnut and walnut growers had been “absolutely smashed”.

    Smashed walnuts to replace smashed avocado?

    Ms Scrivener said her family’s farm can never meet demand, especially for walnuts. “Because where else do you get fresh nuts?”

    I notice there was a whole march full of those yesterday.
    There are worlds of strangeness out there that I never have heard of. Marvellous!

  39. calli

    No, but I could do with a reticle for my monocular. Helps put it all in perspective

    Yikes! I’m in the crosshairs! Better exit to the vanishing point pronto.

  40. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Ahem, Lizzie. Hairy knows plenty. Don’t listen to the peanut gallery here. Streets vanilla is the Rolls Royce of ice-cream — the best by a mile.
    Tom
    No chance.
    It contains only about 7% fat and describes itself as fat reduced. It is also has a relatively high over run (pumped air volume)

    Oh goodie. There’s some left and because it’s low fat I can have heaps of it and it doesn’t count, right?

    Just watched today’s Outsiders; can’t complain when Timmy Blair makes up the third. Hilarious at times. But I’m cross-eyed from watching that hideous moving background they’ve put behind it.
    Get RID of it. It could send some people into spasms, and not of delight.

  41. MsDolittle

    What? Just wait till Aunt Gillian finds out.

    No kitchen table talk.. screw you Gillian. Certainly missed your company this arvo, Nick. You would have loved it.

  42. Snoopy

    AFL to aid police over racist rant aimed at Brisbane Lions trainer at Docklands

    Victoria Police have launched an investigation after claims a spectator levelled a vile racist rant at a Brisbane trainer during the Lions’ loss to the Western Bulldogs.

    Vision surfaced on Sunday of an unidentified man leaning over a grandstand railing at Docklands allegedly hurling abuse at the trainer after he incurred a 50m penalty at a crucial time in Saturday’s game.

    The man is heard to yell, “Go back to the f***ing Chinese takeaway, you d***head.”

    In a just world the trainer would be banned from AFL for life.

  43. Boambee John

    Roger at 1940

    Under Erdogan even Turkey is getting doubtful.

    I can see him at sone stage declaring the peninsula sacred to the heroic soldiers of Islam who defeated the Crusaders, and haram to infidels.

  44. .

    Sydney Boy
    #2362094, posted on April 23, 2017 at 7:48 pm
    There are unpublished benefits to tobacco use and marijuana can treat some forms of cancer, alleviate pain and treat otherwise rare, horrible and difficult to treat diseases.

    Absolute bullshit. Marijuana can treat some cancers? And the results are “unpublished”? Might as well go and join Meryl Dorey on the science thread, dot.

    You’e ignoring research. Look it up and apologise. You’re dead wrong.

    Plus you misread poorly written sentence. The known benefits of tobacco are suppressed by anti smoking loons. Do the costs outweigh the benefits? Maybe, but you cannot account for things like this.

    The benefits of marijuana are more well known. The journal below seems reputable. It has a critic who is a professor of librarianship who hates open source. (Wow…some people).

    Here is an example:

    Oncotarget (Journal Name)

    Cannabinoids as therapeutic agents in cancer: current status and future implications

    PDF | HTML | Order a Reprint
    Oncotarget. 2014; 5:5852-5872. doi: 10.18632/oncotarget.2233
    Metrics: PDF 4156 views | HTML 19583 views ?
    Bandana Chakravarti1,*, Janani Ravi2,* and Ramesh K. Ganju2

    1 Molecular Medicine and Biotechnology Department, Sanjay Gandhi Post Graduate Institute of Medical Sciences, Lucknow, India
    2 Department of Pathology, The Ohio State University, Columbus, Ohio, USA
    * These authors contributed equally to this work

    Correspondence:

    Ramesh K. Ganju, email: [email protected]

    Keywords: Cannabinoid receptors, cannabinoid agonists, cancer, signaling

    Received: May 19, 2014 Accepted: July 17, 2014 Published: July 17, 2014

    ABSTRACT
    The pharmacological importance of cannabinoids has been in study for several years. Cannabinoids comprise of (a) the active compounds of the Cannabis sativa plant, (b) endogenous as well as (c) synthetic cannabinoids. Though cannabinoids are clinically used for anti-palliative effects, recent studies open a promising possibility as anti-cancer agents. They have been shown to possess anti-proliferative and anti-angiogenic effects in vitro as well as in vivo in different cancer models. Cannabinoids regulate key cell signaling pathways that are involved in cell survival, invasion, angiogenesis, metastasis, etc. There is more focus on CB1 and CB2, the two cannabinoid receptors which are activated by most of the cannabinoids. In this review article, we will focus on a broad range of cannabinoids, their receptor dependent and receptor independent functional roles against various cancer types with respect to growth, metastasis, energy metabolism, immune environment, stemness and future perspectives in exploring new possible therapeutic opportunities.

    Anti-proliferation and anti-angiogenetic in vivo and vitro. Seeing this is a literature review study, there are several studies showing either of those properties.

    Apology accepted. I wrote something ambiguous. You’re wrong anyway.

    The idea that we’re better off by slapping a tax on stuff is just silly. People own their own bodies don’t they? If the argument slides all the way down to “the costs on the public sector”, you have to remind people of the inherent moral hazard of public services.

  45. egg_

    Just wait till Aunt Gillian finds out.

    Kim [email protected] wasn’t invited?
    Would’ve required doubling the catering?

  46. Zyconoclast

    That stuff is rubbish compared to Meiji ultra vanilla.

    Ice cream is only as good as its availability.
    Where I am Meiji, just ain’t going to happen.

  47. Roger

    roger

    How much would that cost? Would their families agree? Would their churches agree? Would the host governments agree? Can we afford to do it now – you’ve seen the debt were racking up haven’t you?

    Considering what we waste presently, I think the cost could be easily defrayed by off-setting it against present items in the budget, dot.

    Of course we wouldn’t do so without the families’ consent.

    Libya & Syria would be problematic re local government consent, but this could be worked through as the opportunity presents itself, given the fluid nature of the geo-political situation in these jurisdictions.

    I would not anticipate any objection from the churches provided they were consulted re rites of re-interment, which of course they would be.

  48. Nick

    Kim [email protected] wasn’t invited?
    Would’ve required doubling the catering?

    He’d be tweeting the other guests, complaining that too much white wine was served and someone had made a rude comment about a foreign beer, using a word that sounds like hiss.

  49. rickw

    The man is heard to yell, “Go back to the f***ing Chinese takeaway, you d***head.”

    This is a matter for police? What a fucking joke.

    (Also eminently defendable if the target has ever owned a Chinese Takeaway!)

  50. Nick

    Ice cream is only as good as its availability.

    Life is too short for shit anything. Streets? Meh.

  51. Rev. Archibald

    Everyone.
    I won’t tell you again.
    Stop saying “problematic”.
    You sound like communists.
    Or rabid lesbian social studies teachers from 1977.

  52. MsDolittle

    Would’ve required doubling the catering?
    Since you mention over catering.. I will now name those that said they would come to my party and didn’t: …just tricking… but had you going for a moment there, stupid Stasi munchers.

  53. calli

    How about “axiomatic”, Rev?

  54. Carpe Jugulum

    Ice cream is only as good as its availability.
    Where I am Meiji, just ain’t going to happen.

    Thankfully i don’t have to endure Peters, Streets, Bulla or other such bilge.

  55. Rev. Archibald

    I will rip your lips off and make you eat them if you keep that up, Calli.

  56. Nick

    Since you mention over catering.. I will now name those that said they would come to my party and didn’t

    I’d be disappointed if people said they’d come and didn’t, without a good reason.

  57. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Considering what we waste presently, I think the cost could be easily defrayed by off-setting it against present items in the budget, dot.

    I’d deduct part of the costs from the foreign aid budget of any countries where Australian war graves had been desecrated…

  58. min

    Just watched an AGL ad claiming they will be getting out of coal by 2050 and looking at renewables and wanting billions to do it.

  59. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lizzie, I responded to your questions from last night at 4:29PM, but my reply is waiting for moderation.
    I don’t know why it’s there, I can’t see any naughty words.

    Thanks anyway, Old Bloke. Maybe try a repost with a few changes. It is helpful for me to get feedback from people here to see what they think of the issues I raise re my theories. I am not in touch with others in the field. I don’t want anyone ‘in the know’ to swipe my ideas. Prefer to use the everyday Cat audience, which is the sort of audience I might attract anyway. Hairy says my audience is likely to be women with an interest in sleuthing and sex who like to travel (he is a bit touchy about one part where I mention arriving at a luncheon with grass stains on the back of my skirt because … ), but I think Gentlemen Cats have quite an interest in old historical mysteries too. 🙂

  60. rickw

    I have some Syrian neighbours and they are incredibly nice people.

    No doubt they are, I know some very nice Syrians as well. They even comment that they didn’t understand what had happened to their friends and relatives, “they had become extremists”. What had happened of course was that the muslim brotherhood had slowly managed to get the Assad’s boot of islams throat and islam had returned to it’s usual hideous form.

  61. Geriatric Mayfly

    Even very fine sediments suspended in fresh water take their toll on hydro turbine blades. Anyone know of what salt water does, and how this corrosive mix will up the maintenance schedule and costs?

  62. Rev. Archibald

    Anyone seen this Medici program about to premier on SBS?

  63. Mitch M.

    Cannabinoids as therapeutic agents in cancer: current status and future implications

    Thanks for that. The article is freely available. In Aus there is an active underground medical marijuana oil industry. In the USA there are now studies claiming the medical marijuana is reducing prescription opioid related deaths. The government should piss off, politics impeded research for decades and now politicians will hand over the control of production to pharma. It’s a weed, you can grow it on a porch.

  64. Bruce of Newcastle

    Just watched an AGL ad claiming they will be getting out of coal by 2050 and looking at renewables and wanting billions to do it.

    As I’ve said before I wouldn’t buy a single electron from AGL.
    Btw: they have a new logo. Enjoy…not.

    AGL puts sustainability and digital experience at the forefront in brand refresh

    I hope they paid absolute squillions to some deserving rapacious consultancy for that piece of high school graphic art.

    They’re in the process of reaping squillionty squillions from the artificial drought of gas on the east coast, whilst polishing their green credentials by building stupid solar and wind farms. I could forgive the solar farms, but not the bird munchers. I hope they go bankrupt.

  65. egg_

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2362130, posted on April 23, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    Desal plant maintenance is likely relevant here:

    There is such a thing as marine grade stainless.

    Which will end up clogged beyond use with marine organisms within eighteen months without regular maintenance, backflushing and scouring. Which is why there is no such thing as a cost-effective wave or tide power generator.

  66. Dr Fred Lenin

    The SA communist green government announced it has solved the power crisis . A huge hydro seawater pumping project for spencer gulf will solvev our power need the greek bloke said . The water will be pmped from the gulf to the mountains ,sterilising a strip of land ten miles wide with the salt water .then when we raise the – price of power by a factor of ten ,be released creating enough electricity to power the pumps to refill the hydro dam again .the project will take between three and twenty years ,and vost between $5billion and $687billion . There will be no elections during the construction period as the green communusts are the only people capable of such an inspiring project

  67. max

    Terry McCrann in today’s Hun writes that Trump is announcing details of his tax package Thursday morning our time. I had no idea this was coming up.

    McCrann thinks it will lead to several months of horsetrading and will have a negative rollercoaster effect on the market. Ultimately the 15% (or thereabouts) company tax together with uncertain gas and electricity supply and high power prices means Australia is headed for tough times.

    Our own budget is due in two weeks. It will be irrelevant.

  68. Snoopy

    Btw: they have a new logo. Enjoy…not.

    Stacks of mums with kids at daycare are going to get something very similar for Mothers Day.

  69. twostix

    Victoria Police have launched an investigation after claims a spectator levelled a vile racist rant at a Brisbane trainer during the Lions’ loss to the Western Bulldogs.

    Nobody quite knew the exact moment it became a criminal offense to call people names…

  70. twostix

    The “multicultural” managerial society is very, very brittle if it requires the police force to be intervening in name calling between adults in order to allow it to function.

  71. Bruce of Newcastle

    Anyone know of what salt water does

    Once I dissolved a pure titanium agitator in a chloride solution. Titanum is one of the most corrosion resistant metals there is (beaten only by zirconium and tantalum). I set the experiment going and came back later. The stirrer was still rotating but the solution was just sitting there. So I pulled the mixer out and found it had dissolved away just below the level of the liquid.

    Halides are awesomely corrosive, which is why I’m not a fan of the thorium fluoride molten salt reactor.

  72. .

    Nobody quite knew the exact moment it became a criminal offense to call people names…

    They should hear what goes on in a scrum.

    Seriously though, this is the start of falling down a slippery slope. If you don’t have free speech, you cannot dissent and perhaps cannot defend yourself in court.

    I can’t think of a country where they suppressed free speech and were better for it. Also, free speech in itself has intrinsic value. I consider it sacred.

  73. twostix

    I have some Syrian neighbours and they are incredibly nice people.

    No doubt they are, I know some very nice Syrians as well

    All these lovely Syrian neighbours can move to their own land area and form their own lovely country which I’m sure will not turn out at all like the one they all ready have.

  74. French election participation rate in Alsace is 5% higher than 2012.

    Muslim population in France is now about 10%, this is a disaster of biblical proportions.

  75. Gab

    My invite must have got lost in the mail MsD.

  76. twostix

    Victoria Police have launched an investigation after claims a spectator levelled a vile racist rant at a Brisbane trainer during the Lions’ loss to the Western Bulldogs.

    Also there’s that word again: “vile”.

    Look out when you see it as you’re about to get drenched in a sentence of emotive propaganda keywords.

  77. srr

    yes … it begins … no wonder the most guilty are suddenly, desperately, playing it too cool … 😀

    Bill Mitchell‏Verified account @mitchellvii 4h4 hours ago

    President Donald Trump – Captain of Global Trade and Finance… | The Last Refuge

    https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/856031189764886529

  78. Gab

    Nobody quite knew the exact moment it became a criminal offense to call people names…

    It began when a 14 year old lass from the country called a millionaire half Abo man an “ape”, not realising it was deemed a racist slur.

    Since then it’s been a slippery slope heading straight for fascism.

  79. Snoopy

    One can almost believe that multiculturalism was introduced with the sole purpose of destroying free speech. That’s the way it’s turning out.

    “Go back to f***ing pommy land you d***head” would pass unremarked.

  80. Gab

    You know what’s wrong with society today? No one drinks from the skulls of their dead enemies anymore.

  81. .

    The Goodes thing was racist in my opinion. So what? He’s a “tough footballer” and she was a 13 year old girl. Somehow he became AOTY. Why the police had to be involved is bizarre and cringeworthy.

  82. Fisky

    One can almost believe that multiculturalism was introduced with the sole purpose of destroying free speech. That’s the way it’s turning out.

    It took the Labor Party two decades after the introduction of Official Multiculturalism, to realise how it could be weaponised against their political opponents. No one even bothers to deny that the whole point of 18C is to shut down non-Leftist opinions.

  83. Gab

    Oops – too much Game of Thrones watching can lead to “vile” thoughts.

  84. Old School Conservative

    They should hear what goes on in a scrum.

    Pocock did. He was very upset.
    However, I hesitate to call him a snowflake.

  85. Andrew

    So pumped hydro is a thing now according to Weather-dill? Dams are OK? They no longer kill every endangered species? Or is that just dams filled by pumps attached to wind farms, not dams filled by rain?

  86. cohenite

    min

    #2362127, posted on April 23, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    Just watched an AGL ad claiming they will be getting out of coal by 2050 and looking at renewables and wanting billions to do it.

    AGL’s CEO Vesey says they will close Liddell in 2022 with Bayswater in 2035 and not invest any more in coal. He’s either mad or bullshitting to the greens; the later is preferable of course but without Liddell and Bayswater NSW would look like North Korea. It would be nice if someone like Vesey or some politician just says enough, renewables are bullshit. In the meantime over 50% of your electricity bill is caused by useless renewable costs.

  87. Snoopy

    Ms D, if you host another soiree, restrict the catering to Aldi’s ersatz Jatz. You can bundle up any leftovers and send a care package to you know who.

  88. MsDolittle

    It’s a weed, you can grow it on a porch.

    I’m not anti. I just don’t think there are any proper scientific studies proving the absolute benefit.
    Seems like every second patient of Doc’s is asking about THC ..which is fine (no question is a dumb question, right?) but it’s a bit sad that THC is suddenly marketed as a panacea for desperate people with progressive neurological diseases.. just saying (ie. cruel) THC should not become a medicare item…because that would be counter productive and another good reason to give up.

  89. egg_

    So pumped hydro is a thing now according to Weather-dill? Dams are OK? They no longer kill every endangered species?

    An EIS on sea-water flooded valleys?

  90. Fisky

    Germany, backed by France, has taken a hard line on the “cherry-picking” issue, insisting that a Britain must be worse off outside the EU .

    That view was echoed yesterday by Finland’s Finance Minister Petteri Orpo, who predicted that the Brexit deal would serve as a warning to other countries thinking of leaving.

    “This divorce, after 40 years of marriage, is inevitably going to be so painful that no one will want to feel it for themselves,” Mr Orpo said in an interview with Bloomberg. “I believe it’s going to be a precedent no one will want to follow.”

    These are not normal negotiations at all, there is no chance of a “deal”, and May should just go through the motions of negotiating for 2 years, agree to nothing, and then forcibly seize as much EU assets and territory as possible on the way out the door.

  91. Baldrick

    Victoria Police have launched an investigation after claims a spectator levelled a vile racist rant at a Brisbane trainer during the Lions’ loss to the Western Bulldogs.

    What is it about government intervention that will help people with hurty feelings?

  92. Time to remind Australians why Mustafa Kemal Ataturk is respected for his attitude towards former enemies.

    Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives … You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours … You, the mothers who sent their sons from faraway countries, wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.

  93. Snoopy

    What is it about government intervention that will help people with hurty feelings?

    Buck$?

  94. .

    I listened to Le Pen’s speeches and what she proposes for security and migration for the most part is sensible and tame. I don’t see the controversy except in the minutiae.

    Her economic policies are left of me. What a “right winger” is used rather loosely these days. Maybe we should name things accurately and junk the left/right rubric. Just call her a nationalist; Marcron is a centrist and Hollande is a socialist – but they’re French so they’re all socialists.

    “Far right candidate Marine Le Pen”….?

    I don’t think they’ve ever seen a “right winger”, Trump too is a centrist nationalist with some conflicting Jacksonian and classically liberal tendencies.

    Maybe Ted Cruz and Ben Shap are right wingers.

  95. Rev. Archibald

    The medical marihuana thing is obviously just a device for easing people into decriminalisation.
    If there were component parts of marihuana that worked as medicines, why wouldn’t they already be used?
    It all seems like a massive beat up by the usual suspects.

  96. Leigh Lowe

    Victoria Police have launched an investigation after claims a spectator levelled a vile racist rant at a Brisbane trainer during the Lions’ loss to the Western Bulldogs.

    Oh?
    So they’ve caught the Apex jungle-bunnies who kicked the shit out of the autistic kid on the bus then?

  97. .

    MsDolittle.

    Read the article I linked to and Mitch M relinked to. The medical benefits of marijuana are undeniable.

    THC should not become a medicare item

    No need! Just make it legal and it will be plentiful.

  98. I read this with a mixture of anger and sadness. The details are just so awful. In a fit of pique a policeman punishes a woman and her son for what he’s decided is a capital offence. Those 2011 floods were absolutely devastating, so many families bearing losses will never be the same again, certainly Blake Rice and John Tyson won’t be, that’s for sure.

    You don’t have to have much to do with Police to learn this sort of thing is far more common than one may at first think.

  99. Motelier

    Is this brain fart by weatherdill about pumping salt warer for hypro on top of the 5.5 billion dollars he and Malturd have announced to fix the south eastern states predicted electrical crisis, or is it place of the tesla batteries, snowy hydro 2.0 and enlarged tas hydro?

    There has to be easy money to be made here.

  100. MsDolittle

    My invite must have got lost in the mail MsD.

    You are always welcome Gab. We had a lota fun this arvo. It is odd the way certain types of people gravitate to the Cat. And then you meet them face to face and they are even more bettera.

  101. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Time to remind Australians why Mustafa Kemal Ataturk is respected for his attitude towards former enemies.

    Mustafa Kemal – criticized for his way of running Turkey from a table in the bar of his favourite hotel, and revered in Turkey to the point where it was an offense to “defame his memory.”

  102. Bruce of Newcastle

    They should hear what goes on in a scrum.

    Maybe ask John Hopoate.
    Proctological rugby

  103. egg_

    Motelier
    #2362169, posted on April 23, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    Looks like SA’s getting a well-deserved sea water enema.

  104. Boambee John

    OSC at 2049

    Unfortunately Ataturk is long dead and those who would follow his principles are mostly purged.

    I doubt that Erdogan would accept Ataturk’s sentiments on this subject.

  105. .

    Rev. Archibald
    #2362165, posted on April 23, 2017 at 8:51 pm
    The medical marihuana thing is obviously just a device for easing people into decriminalisation.
    If there were component parts of marihuana that worked as medicines, why wouldn’t they already be used?
    It all seems like a massive beat up by the usual suspects.

    AS FOR A RECENT LITERATURE REVIEW REGARDING THE MEDICAL BENEFITS OF MARIJUANA, READ THE ARTICLE PLEASE ARKY.

    HERE IT IS AGAIN.

    THANK YOU. YOU CAN JUST READ THE ABSTRACT IF YOU CAN’T BE ARSED. i HIGHLIGHTED THE SALIENT POINTS BEFORE.

    Why aren’t we using nuclear power and why do not have free speech?

    Why can’t I buy alcohol at a bottlo in NSW past 10 pm?

    Why is it illegal to chop down trees on your own land in Australia?

    Because people like big government as a security blanket.

  106. Fisky

    UK Labour’s campaign off to a brilliant start!

    Jeremy Corbyn refuses to say if he would authorise killing of Isil leader

    Jeremy Corbyn has signalled he could refuse to authorise a drone strike against the leader of Isil, would scrap the UK’s nuclear deterrent and end airstrikes in Syria.

    Asked whether he would be prepared to authorise a drone strike on Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the Isil leader, he refused to commit.

  107. H B Bear

    Pumped hydro power station ideal for SA Spencer Gulf site, EnergyAustralia says

    Pumped hydro will be the next desal. Billions in capex, hundreds of millions to run and all for bugger all at the end of the day.

  108. MsDolittle

    No need! Just make it legal and it will be plentiful.

    Sure, and I really mean that. BTW, just in case you haven’t been keeping up, pot is already plentiful and we (cops/society oooh lah lah lah) shouldn’t worry about it. Let it go.

  109. Delta A

    Is this brain fart by weatherdill about pumping salt warer for hypro on top of the 5.5 billion dollars he and Malturd have announced to fix the south eastern states predicted electrical crisis, or is it place of the tesla batteries, snowy hydro 2.0 and enlarged tas hydro?

    You forgot the diesel generators he’s ordered to ensure that there are no nasty blackouts during the lead up to the election.

    Nice, pollution spewing diesel generators. And he still brags that SA is an international leader in clean, green energy.

    I really dislike Weatherdill and his ignorant Greek sidekick.

  110. zyconoclast

    So pumped hydro is a thing now according to Weather-dill? Dams are OK? They no longer kill every endangered species? Or is that just dams filled by pumps attached to wind farms, not dams filled by rain?

    Dams high in the hills filled with salty sea water. What could be more natural than that.
    It will never happen, another feasibility study for $450k.
    by 2020, Weatherdill will be appointed ambassador to the lesbian (he has experience with these matters)capital of the world. Following (wallowing?) in Mike Rann’s example.

    This place will likely have more reliable/cheaper power than SA

  111. Mark A

    Gab
    #2362150, posted on April 23, 2017 at 8:43 pm
    You know what’s wrong with society today? No one drinks from the skulls of their dead enemies anymore.

    You are mixing with the wrong kind of drinkers.
    Skol, skull?

  112. Bruce of Newcastle

    Time to remind Australians why Mustafa Kemal Ataturk is respected for his attitude towards former enemies.

    Ataturk was a bastard, but the sort of bastard that you wish MENA had more of.

  113. john constantine

    Many of the marijuana greenchip minnows recently listed on the ASX are running on the basis of low or no THC content medication.

    I dismissed them for a start, so am only dabbling on volume and momentum.

    The story of medication based on exact levels of active ingredient from genetically low variation plantlines grown in enviroment controlled hothouses is interesting.

    Once a country is as broke as Australia is, legalising and taxing has a lot going for it versus the State devoting resources to the crushing and incarceration of plant users.

    I do not think there are as massive health benefits from zero THC medication as there are from sorting out the flaws in the current medical system/patient interface, or 3d printing medication, or artificial intelligence 24/7 online medical triage.

    When my understanding of the situation changes, so does my opinion.

    Not saying all the medical marijuana greenchips will be any good, but some people, in my best guess opinion will be helped.

    [having lived in a house with someone terminally ill and suffering the side effects of chemo, i cannot knock palliative treatments for those on the way out.]

  114. jupes

    Oh well Jupes.. at least you met us guys.

    Well yes, it certainly was the highlight of the day meeting the Melbourne Cats.

    Convivial indeed.

    The footy not so much.

    Roll on Anzac Day. This will be my first one in Melbourne.

  115. Mater

    Thanks for today, MsD. The Mater clan had a ball.
    The hospitality, yet again, flawless.
    I do hope we can return the favour sometime.

  116. Fisky

    The footy not so much.

    Oh god! You watched that massacre first hand? How amazing was CYRIL?

  117. .

    MsDolittle
    #2362179, posted on April 23, 2017 at 9:01 pm
    No need! Just make it legal and it will be plentiful.

    Sure, and I really mean that. BTW, just in case you haven’t been keeping up, pot is already plentiful and we (cops/society oooh lah lah lah) shouldn’t worry about it. Let it go.

    Sure, now we just need to stop putting people in gaol over it, along with the absurd search and seizure powers that exist – that can mean a landlord can lose his investment property if the tenant is growing weed at the place (along with other narcotic activity).

    The idea that we should tax it is just appalling. F^%$ off you greedy pricks.

  118. jupes

    Oh god! You watched that massacre first hand? How amazing was CYRIL?

    He played as well as he always plays against West Coast.

    Bastard.

  119. MsDolittle
    #2362086, posted on April 23, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    doc is doing the dishes after Melbourne Cat meet. He is a good man. We had an extra good time here tonight..imagine being able to say what you want, when you want. Convivial party.

    Miss D, thanks for the wonderful afternoon. Wine, food, company, wine, did I mention the wine?

    Just excellent. Anyone who said they were going to turn up and didn’t is a bum.

    (I told an old Hawky joke. Everyone was polite and laughed.)

  120. Makka

    “This divorce, after 40 years of marriage, is inevitably going to be so painful that no one will want to feel it for themselves,” Mr Orpo said in an interview with Bloomberg.

    The strange thing is that there are morons who still want to live under the boot of these fascist pigs.

  121. Hydra

    I look forward to the arrest of 80,000 racist fans at the MCG during the Ashes.

  122. Mark A

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2362183, posted on April 23, 2017 at 9:05 pm
    Time to remind Australians why Mustafa Kemal Ataturk is respected for his attitude towards former enemies.
    Ataturk was a bastard, but the sort of bastard that you wish MENA had more of.

    Second that, and anyone thinking he wasn’t a Muslim or against Islam think again.
    He introduced state rules to regulate and restrict but not forbid.

  123. Siltstone

    BoN 08:57pm
    Brisbane has a street sculpture commemorating the type of rugby league played by John Hopoate:

    http://www.weekendnotes.com/images/brisbane-city-sculptures-034.JPG

  124. Makka

    This tactic worked so well in Britain;

    Nobel economist Joseph Stiglitz has a warning for the clutch of eurosceptic candidates bidding for power in the first round of the French elections on Sunday.

    If they sweep into contention and markets sniff a serious risk of euro rupture – whether a soft or hard Frexit – they must expect to deal with a systemic bank run. Events could spin out of control in short order.

  125. Bruce of Newcastle
    #2362173, posted on April 23, 2017 at 8:57 pm
    They should hear what goes on in a scrum.

    Maybe ask John Hopoate.
    Proctological rugby

    That was Rugby LEAGUE, not rugby as in Rugby UNION.
    You know, the great game that is currently going downhill in Australia at a great rate of knots to the distress of many.

  126. srr

    FRENCH SECURITY 57,000 STRONG ON POLLING DAY

    Unprecedented security operation.

    http://www.westmonster.com/french-security-57000-strong-on-polling-day/

  127. sdfc

    What happened to your mob today Mark A?

    I tipped them and they went home early.

  128. People still play union? I thought it was all over. Or was that just Perth?

  129. .

    Bank runs are more likely staying in the EU. You don’t want to keep on bailing out Greece.

  130. BrettW

    Regarding the unpublished benefits of tobacco use I am curious. Perhaps I should be a smoker after all.

    Dot at
    #2362076, posted on April 23, 2017 at 7:27 pm said
    “There ought to be no taxes or regulation of tobacco or marijuana.
    There are unpublished benefits to tobacco use”.

    I thought this was some sort of error but clearly not as he goes on to repeat it after challenged and at 8:01 says :

    “Plus you misread poorly written sentence. The known benefits of tobacco are suppressed by anti smoking loons. Do the costs outweigh the benefits? Maybe, but you cannot account for things like this.

    The benefits of marijuana are more well known”.

    It is clear that Dot is making a distinction between tobacco and marijuana so it is not mistake.

    Please tell us Dot the benefits of tobacco. Since these benefits are unpublished I am eager to know what you base your two comments on. If there are benefits is it better to smoke 1 or 50 per day ? If you truly believe this would you encourage your kids to smoke ?

    I am not questioning your comment about marijuana.

    and who are the anti smoking loons who are suppressing these unpublished reports ?

  131. Bruce of Newcastle

    Majority of French Armed Police Support Marine Le Pen

    That’s one of the most interesting stories today, given this one:

    French Election: ‘CIVIL WAR’ could break out after election, warns Marine Le Pen advisor

    If the police are on her side the army probably is too. That was (and is) the case with Trump.

    If Le Pen wins and the left tries Bastille Day Da Sequel it may be a very short day.

  132. Rev. Archibald

    If you truly believe this would you encourage your kids to smoke ?

    ..
    Dot won’t have children of his own.
    He is just going to cannibalize yours for spare parts in his dotage.

  133. Mark A

    sdfc
    #2362202, posted on April 23, 2017 at 9:27 pm
    What happened to your mob today Mark A?

    Unless you mistake me for Mark from Melbourne, my ‘mob’ is a bunch of pussies.
    I follow the Saints as did my dad and I tell you, it’s nothing less than self-flagellation.
    Years ago they had a chance to rejuvenate and regroup and they missed it.

  134. MsDolittle

    now we just need to stop putting people in gaol over it,

    Agreed. Chronic pot smokers probably won’t hurt anyone but themselves. All good, still I don’t want to pay for any extras ie counselling etc. You pay your money and you take your chances H/T Yosemite Sam

  135. Makka

    Chronic pot smokers probably won’t hurt anyone but themselves. All good, still I don’t want to pay for any extras ie counselling etc.

    Agreed, ditto for smokers.

  136. Leigh Lowe

    Just excellent. Anyone who said they were going to turn up and didn’t is a bum.

    It’s over?
    I’m still in the car park at Masters Hardware.

  137. BrettW

    Rev A.
    Now that was a worthy LOL !

  138. .

    The benefits of tobacco use are mainly psychological. Tobacco however is anti inflammatory. There are benefits in Parkinson’s prevention and lowering obesity risk (appetite suppressant). Smoking seems to have an epigenetic effect in preventing allergies. Smoking helps fine motor skills, attention and memory. Inn paticular smoking helps OCD and ADHD. This might be shocking too but smoking whilst pregnant lowers the risk of preeclampisa.

    If you don’t believe it, google it, if you can’t find it, I can help you.

    The government spreads lies that there are no benefits from tobacco.

    Look at the black hat webpage design the government has used in stopping people from finding out this information.

    “Unpublished” might have been a poor choice in words. The government however certainly is suppressing the information. They publish information that lies and says “there is no benefits…” or write smart arse, ignorant webpages that list the downsides as benefits. Google ought to ban them as they would ban any other business using those search terms of art.

    From memory, up to 2 cigarettes a week stays below the level where health risks come in. That means zero health risk though. Up until a point, being fat, sedentary lifestyles and eating too much sugar is going to be worse than smoking.

    Smoke a couple of cigars at parties or at the end of the working week perhaps, every couple of weeks? Maybe we can have more.

  139. .

    If you truly believe this would you encourage your kids to smoke ?

    Maybe when they’re 25 and have a bit of stress at work. When they’re 13? No.

  140. Fisky

    Turnbull edges up to 48-52. Solid week!

  141. srr

    JohnWickofPolitics‏ @Gingrich_of_PA 9h

    #SNL on DACA and Fake Science Marches #Dixie Awaits the Emperor

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1kvJpQPQgMDxE

  142. Andrew

    The Goodes thing was racist in my opinion.

    Well they deny that the Mumbai crowd chanting “Symonds is a monkey!” was racist…

    Hypothetically, would the girl also have called 6’7″ Justin Madden a big ape? I suspect it was innocent.

    If I’m right he harmed her far more than she harmed him. It’s appalling.

    If we MUST have 18C the remedy should be limited to mediation, with no award possible beyond an apology. With no prospect of reward, the genuinely aggreived could seek an apology but 97% (being the professional claimants) would never bother.

  143. MsDolittle

    If there are benefits is it better to smoke 1 or 50 per day ? If you truly believe this would you encourage your kids to smoke ?

    As a working mum, I regularly forced transfats (Maccas) on my kids. Now they make their own healthy choices. Burp.

  144. Nick

    The Goodes thing was racist in my opinion.

    Miming the throwing of a spear into innocent opposition supporters spoke volumes about the man.
    I was there and saw it. It came out of nowhere.

  145. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    If we MUST have 18C the remedy should be limited to mediation, with no award possible beyond an apology. With no prospect of reward, the genuinely aggreived could seek an apology but 97% (being the professional claimants) would never bother.

    Uncommonly well said.

  146. MsDolittle

    It’s over?
    I’m still in the car park at Masters Hardware.

    It’s not over. I can whip up care packages for the long suffering.

  147. Fisky

    Matthew Elliott‏Verified account
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    French polling expert just told me their intuition (NOT their polling numbers) is Le Pen 27%, Fillon 23%, Macron 21% & Melenchon 17%

    We can only hope this is true!

    I thought the polls showing the Left candidate beating the Right candidate 60-40 in every 1-1 match up were very suspicious.

    I think the French voters might be lying to the pollsters!

  148. MsDolittle

    Miming the throwing of a spear

    I thought that was great. Why not mime that as a proud aboriginal man? I object to the mindless persecution of little girls though. It’s the footy not North Korea for god’s sake.

  149. Nick

    D, he could have done a dance and no one would have cared. It was pre meditated and deliberately provocative.

  150. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Miming the throwing of a spear

    And if the fans had mimed the firing of muskets back?

  151. Adam
    #2362203, posted on April 23, 2017 at 9:28 pm
    People still play union? I thought it was all over. Or was that just Perth?

    The Western Force have gently reminded the ARU of the binding contract which sees the Force in existence until 2020.
    The ARU, having told the Super rugby bosses that the Force will be axed at the end of 2017, are in media lockdown while they look for cigar butts and cognac glasses behind the leather lounges.
    One of the lawyers representing the Force once paddled out into the WA surf to rescue a mate whose surf ski had been bitten in half by a shark.
    Look out ARU.

  152. DrBeauGan

    You know what’s wrong with society today? No one drinks from the skulls of their dead enemies anymore.

    I do.

    I am running seriously short of enemies.

  153. MsDolittle

    A Connecticut dominatrix who describes herself as a “ruthless, plus size Bitch” in an online ad is locked up for allegedly extorting hush money from a 69-year-old man whom she recorded during their sessions, police report …performing oral sex on Ward, sucking and rubbing her feet, and undressing and cleaning the 5′ 6″, 216-pound dominatrix’s oven.
    Big oven.

  154. Mark A

    MsDolittle
    #2362223, posted on April 23, 2017 at 10:12 pm

    Miming the throwing of a spear

    I thought that was great.

    I’m with ZKTA here.
    Wonder what the reaction would’ve been?

  155. DrBeauGan

    Mind you, diet coke does terrible things to bone.

  156. MsDolittle

    D, he could have done a dance and no one would have cared. It was pre meditated and deliberately provocative.

    Absolutely agree.

  157. Bruce in WA

    It’s not over. I can whip up care packages for the long suffering.

    Thanks, MsD … I’ll send Doomlord my postal address.

    But no merlot … I am not drinking any fucking merlot!

    (H/T Sideways)

  158. JC

    Fisk

    If that’s right, markets should ballastic to the upside tomorrow. I was betting a macaroni Le Pen match up as the second best altnerarive. Fillon is Le Pen with serious economic reform. If fillon is in the second round he’ll win.

  159. Nick

    Whipping up a care package, a dominatrix with a clean oven, what are you reading tonight lol ?

  160. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #2362231, posted on April 23, 2017 at 10:22 pm

    Mind you, diet coke does terrible things to bone.

    Jesus! what a waste of good skull bone.
    I must be an odd one, only ever tasted coke once and found it an undrinkable swill.

    Not only that but if you want to spill any beverage on your keyboard let it be wine, you can save your keyboard.
    Be it coke? say goodbye.

  161. Complete disaster for the Eagles! They will never win another premiership again!

    Fisky, you do love overreacting.

  162. BrettW

    Dot,
    You are right unpublished was a poor choice of words. Nothing like a bit of exaggeration to boost your point of view. Sounds quite the conspiracy.

    You make it sound like the public should be taking up the filthy habit based on the benefits you state. Since the Government makes so much out of tax anyway why would they not be proclaiming the benefits you listed and raise their tax take ? Now that would be a worthy cause if we are to believe your listed benefits outweigh the many deaths and much suffering caused by smoking.

    I particularly liked your comment about the benefit for pregnant women. Does that one benefit outweigh all the negatives ?

    and you call the anti smokers loons.

  163. Went to see Their finest this afternoon.

    Not the world’s greatest movie but a very satisfying watch. The plot meandered somewhat, but it was held together by the actors, particularly Gemma Arterton, who is my new love. She has a very strong screen presence in the film.

    Apart from a few too many cinematic clichés, it was refreshing, although I doubt the lesbian (no plot spoilers) would have been quite so forward about her predilections in 1940s Britain.

  164. cynical1

    Fuck me.

    The benefits of tobacco use are mainly psychological. Tobacco however is anti inflammatory. There are benefits in Parkinson’s prevention and lowering obesity risk (appetite suppressant). Smoking seems to have an epigenetic effect in preventing allergies. Smoking helps fine motor skills, attention and memory. Inn paticular smoking helps OCD and ADHD. This might be shocking too but smoking whilst pregnant lowers the risk of preeclampisa.

    If you don’t believe it, google it, if you can’t find it, I can help you.

    For fucks sake, and everyone thought Grogery was a nutter.

  165. Armadillo

    LOL. Looks like Septimus got smashed about today. The “Transvestite Troll”. Too funny for words.

  166. Zyconoclast

    People still play union? I thought it was all over. Or was that just Perth?

    Adam
    You are right. Even the sequencing.

  167. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Apart from a few too many cinematic clichés, it was refreshing, although I doubt the lesbian (no plot spoilers) would have been quite so forward about her predilections in 1940s Britain.

    Depends on what circles she moved in. After the Violet Keppel/Vita Sackville West scandal of the 1920’s, the aristocracy would simply have described her as “not being like other girls.”

  168. Armadillo

    and you call the anti smokers loons.

    Probably because they are.

  169. MsDolittle

    LOL. Looks like Septimus got smashed about today. The “Transvestite Troll”. Too funny for words.

    Oh goodie. I’ll have to take your word for it as I can’t be fagged checking it out. I am pleased though. Ze is a total moron.

  170. Mike of Marion

    Antonin D
    #2361609, posted on April 23, 2017 at 7:36 am

    Ennio Morricone composed so, so many great pieces of music.

    In no particular order, my choice of his works are:

    From a concert in July 2009, “Ecstasy of Gold” with Susanna Rigacci at her most joyful best.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUNVBGHiBY0

    Deborah’s Theme from “Once upon a time in America”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuyYc0gINbU

    The Harmonica from “Once upon a time in the West” – with aural
    backup from a Choir
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we53TOJyt78

    From “Malena”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzJxHw4JF10

    “Sacco and Vanzetti” with Dulce Pontes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7mtmkoZG2Y

    and from 2015
    Hateful Eight and the stagecoach scene.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTwWp6VMNGs

    Just so many gems.
    Even Yo-Yo Ma did a collaboration with Morricone – that is one cellist who can play!
    Enjoy

  171. Zyconoclast

    Top Ender
    #2362241, posted on April 23, 2017 at 10:41 pm

    Potemkin village?

  172. Depends on what circles she moved in. After the Violet Keppel/Vita Sackville West scandal of the 1920’s, the aristocracy would simply have described her as “not being like other girls.”

    True … but this definitely wasn’t that circle.

  173. MsDolittle

    Probably because they are.

    Antismokers even worse than the Mothercraft Gestapo.

  174. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Potemkin village?

    The Norks? Never!

  175. MsDolittle

    What’s going on in France?

  176. Oh come on

    Did anyone watch John Conway Tonight on ABC2? Vaguely know the guy – he is an ex of a friend. He was starting to get into standup when they split. Am wondering if his show is as woefully unfunny as the rest of the ABC’s ‘comedy’ ‘talent’.

  177. min

    Only doing harm to themselves and not to others does that include the green senator who has admitted to self medicating ?

  178. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    True … but this definitely wasn’t that circle.

    No puns intended, but you are touching on a subject I feel quite strongly about, as an amateur historian – the attempts to impose modern mores and mindsets, onto those who lived in days gone by. Today’s SJW’s would be totally unable to comprehend that a lesbian in the 1940’s wouldn’t be able to be completely forward about her preferences.

    Can’t remember which King of England it was – George V? when the subject of homosexuality was raised, said simply “Good God, I thought men like that shot themselves.”

  179. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    If we MUST have 18C the remedy should be limited to mediation, with no award possible beyond an apology. With no prospect of reward, the genuinely aggreived could seek an apology but 97% (being the professional claimants) would never bother.
    Uncommonly well said.

    +1

    You know what’s wrong with society today? No one drinks from the skulls of their dead enemies anymore.
    I do.
    I am running seriously short of enemies.

    Recycle. It gives the skulls a proper wash-out.
    Or you could find more enemies. Visit your local Socialist Society and argue with them.

  180. min

    Well just seen that ABC won Logie for 4Corners hogwash about youth detention centres. Walid now due for his second . Guess that says something about the IQ of the voters.

  181. JC

    Cynical

    Dot is perhaps not being very clear. He should be referring to nicotine instead of tobacco. Nicotine is a great drug for all the reasons mentioned. It’s a wonderful drug.

  182. Rabz

    Bluddee hell – I don’t usually drink Scotch, but made an exception tonight. 🙂

  183. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Put this one on as loud as you can, and tell your neighbors to get stuffed. Pavarotti’s last performance of “Nossun Dorma.” I think he knew his time was running out..

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bluddee hell – I don’t usually drink Scotch, but made an exception tonight. 🙂

    The Cat will remedy this deficiency in your education, Squire – as long as it was a good single malt, and NOT Suntory, as certain Lefties drink.

  185. JC

    Benefits of nicotine

    https://selfhacked.com/2016/03/31/28-proven-health-benefits-nicotine-4-potential-risks/.

    It also says it helps with Tourette’s so rooster should smoke a few packs a day.

  186. When a man from Singapore had his wish to visit North Korea granted, he braced himself for the scenes of ‘barren lands’ and ‘really, really sad people’ that he had seen via a BBC Panorama documentary.
    But what he found blew his mind – for all the right reasons.
    Inside the communist enclave in 2013, photographer Aram Pan witnessed bustling markets, men and women enjoying themselves at a Western looking water park and miles and miles of crops ready for harvest, shattering all of his illusions about what a holiday to North Korea would entail.

    The article, for some reason, is sans photographs of these miles and miles of crops.

    There is one photo, of a crop, which for some reason the urbanite SJW captioner at the Daily Mail declares to be “ready for harvest”.

  187. Well just seen that ABC won Logie for 4Corners hogwash about youth detention centres. Walid now due for his second . Guess that says something about the IQ of the voters.

    ‘Gogglebox’ won a Logie last year. That’s about all anyone needs to know about the Logies ever again.

  188. Rabz

    Zk2A – it is JWG, which apparently is some sort of blend.

    Not that one gives a rodent’s – off to impress the hot Brazilian bimbette next door, by cutting her grass.

    🙂

  189. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zk2A – it is JWG, which apparently is some sort of blend.

    Rabz, normally the drinking of blended malts is a disgusting habit, with no hope of redemption, but, given your scintillating wit on the Cat, we will do our best to save your soul.

  190. sdfc

    Mark A

    Unless you mistake me for Mark from Melbourne, my ‘mob’ is a bunch of pussies.

    No. I got the right Mark this time. I was referring to the saints. Fell away badly today.

  191. Fisky

    Jonathan Karl‏ @jonkarl

    According to the ABC/WP poll, among 2016 voters, @realDonaldTrump would beat Hillary Clinton in a rematch — in the popular vote, no less

  192. Zyconoclast

    Not that one gives a rodent’s – off to impress the hot Brazilian bimbette next door, by cutting her grass.

    No need, she cuts her own grass.

    She cuts her own grass.

  193. Snoopy

    Eyrie
    #2361230, posted on April 22, 2017 at 2:36 pm
    I’m going to watch another couple of episodes of “The Expanse”. Great space opera, background of political machinations, a detective story and 6 episodes in, an impressive body count and number of spaceships destroyed. Rivetting.

    Thanks for the heads up, Eyrie. It is very good.

  194. Rabz

    Zyco – the hair is basically black – otherwise, spot on.

  195. Bruce in WA

    No puns intended, but you are touching on a subject I feel quite strongly about, as an amateur historian – the attempts to impose modern mores and mindsets, onto those who lived in days gone by. Today’s SJW’s would be totally unable to comprehend that a lesbian in the 1940’s wouldn’t be able to be completely forward about her preferences.

    Couldn’t agree more! My dear old departed Nanna, who was 99 when she finally pulled the pin, was talking to her neighbour about a murder in Perth, involving two women, many years ago.

    “They were ‘lesbians’ the paper says”, said neighbour.

    “I don’t care where they’re from — I can’t see why they just can’t be sent back to where they came from!” was Nanna’s reply.

  196. BrettW

    JC,
    Good of you to step in to try to cover up for Dots confusion.

    Now why don’t you take your anger management medication. Or just give yourself an uppercut.

  197. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My dear old departed Nanna, who was 99 when she finally pulled the pin, was talking to her neighbour about a murder in Perth, involving two women, many years ago.

    My own dear departed Nanna refused to believe women could do such things…Which murder in Perth would that have been?

  198. Rabz

    OK – since we’re discussing the big issues – anyone got a recommendation for a vacuum cleaner?

    Suffice to say, it needs to totally suck.

  199. .

    cynical1
    #2362242, posted on April 23, 2017 at 10:45 pm
    Fuck me.

    The benefits of tobacco use are mainly psychological. Tobacco however is anti inflammatory. There are benefits in Parkinson’s prevention and lowering obesity risk (appetite suppressant). Smoking seems to have an epigenetic effect in preventing allergies. Smoking helps fine motor skills, attention and memory. Inn paticular smoking helps OCD and ADHD. This might be shocking too but smoking whilst pregnant lowers the risk of preeclampisa.

    If you don’t believe it, google it, if you can’t find it, I can help you.

    For fucks sake, and everyone thought Grogery was a nutter.

    The evidence is all out there. If you want to be treated like a child and swallow the government funded propaganda whole, go right ahead.

  200. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My dear old departed Nanna, who was 99 when she finally pulled the pin, was talking to her neighbour about a murder in Perth, involving two women, many years ago.

    My dear old departed Great Nanna – she died at over 100 – achieved fame and fortune when at 90, she hit a would be burglar over the head with a rolling pin. The scoundrel was bound hand and foot by her, and her 65 year old daughter, with a clothesline, and when the local coppers were summoned — the offender was “known to police” – the cops were laughing so much, they could barely make the arrest…

  201. Bruce in WA

    My own dear departed Nanna refused to believe women could do such things…Which murder in Perth would that have been?

    Have no real recollection, mate. I think I was in my teens, so 1963 —> 1969 or thereabouts.

  202. .

    BrettW
    #2362239, posted on April 23, 2017 at 10:33 pm
    Dot,
    You are right unpublished was a poor choice of words. Nothing like a bit of exaggeration to boost your point of view. Sounds quite the conspiracy.

    Actually I was wrong, as you are now. Not published by the government; we are forced to pay for this crap and they self censor to keep the public less than fully informed. Worse still, they outright lie and make out certain facts do not exist. They do so in conjunction with a politically connected, loony anti smoking lobby and do it on taxpayer funds.

    It is a conspiracy. You don’t seem to understand what words mean Brett.

    You make it sound like the public should be taking up the filthy habit based on the benefits you state. Since the Government makes so much out of tax anyway why would they not be proclaiming the benefits you listed and raise their tax take ?

    People should consider smoking being fully informed, without the taxpayer funded, dishonest government propaganda stating that there are no benefits. This is pure Lysenkoism.

    As for a filthy habit, the air of built up cities can be just as bad for you as particulate matter.

    Now that would be a worthy cause if we are to believe your listed benefits outweigh the many deaths and much suffering caused by smoking.

    Up to a point far below a pack a day a smoker, but you seem to be innumerate as well as illiterate.

    I particularly liked your comment about the benefit for pregnant women. Does that one benefit outweigh all the negatives ?

    I have a friend who nearly died with her twins as well because of that condition. I’m saying the risk of developing cancer 40+ years on definitely would have outweighed the cost of her dying a couple of years ago. More costs: my other friend (her husband) being a widower at an early age with two premature babies he otherwise would have buried along with his high school sweetheart.

    and you call the anti smokers loons.

    That is because you are.

  203. .

    Amazing that people are so willing to believe the government so much on “health messages” that even with evidence, hearing something to the contrary is like telling the kiddies that Santa isn’t real.

    Sad.

  204. Rabz

    Dotters – vacuum cleaners, Squire – let’s have some suggestions, thanks.

  205. Mitch M.

    Many of the marijuana greenchip minnows recently listed on the ASX are running on the basis of low or no THC content medication.

    Which is a mistake because THC is important in inducing cancer cell death and protects brain cells by preventing excessive ion influx.

    Nicotine does have benefits but smoking is a huge net negative. There are even studies showing smokers have lower rates of Parkinson’s Disease, which possibly relates to how nicotine prevents certain immune cells going berserk. Economically smoking is quite possibly a positive because the ill effects don’t kick in til the 60’s and health costs begin to soar in the 60’s for everyone. The good thing is that lung cancer, CVD, and emphysema in that age range kills relatively quickly. 🙂

    seems to have an epigenetic effect in preventing allergies.

    Because smoking suppresses the immune response. That is not a good thing. It’s not epigenetic, it is a specific receptor that nicotine binds too which also explains his attention improving ability because it boosts dopamine, hence the benefit in ADHD.

    Smoking is a terrible way to obtain nicotine. Vaping is a good option.

  206. old bloke

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2362089, posted on April 23, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    Why?

    Used to live in Kendall, which is about as obscure place a in eastern NSW as you can get.

    Kendall, N.S.W. is on the same latitude as Perth’s northern beaches, if he travelled due west he would have arrived at Alkimos, W.A. Why?, maybe he wanted to check the surf over this side?

  207. .

    Let’s recap.

    The government says there are NO benefits to smoking.

    Here is a partial list of the benefits of smoking:

    The benefits of tobacco use are mainly psychological. Tobacco however is anti inflammatory. There are benefits in Parkinson’s prevention and lowering obesity risk (appetite suppressant). Smoking seems to have an epigenetic effect in preventing allergies. Smoking helps fine motor skills, attention and memory. In paticular smoking helps OCD and ADHD. This might be shocking too but smoking whilst pregnant lowers the risk of preeclampisa.

    However, some people are happy to pay taxes so they can be lied to like children about their dog not being run over despite looking completely different to the dog they had before.

  208. .

    Rabz
    #2362286, posted on April 24, 2017 at 12:22 am
    Dotters – vacuum cleaners, Squire – let’s have some suggestions, thanks.

    Seriously? Okay. Get an Electrolux. If you are cheap, get a Philips (same thing almost).

  209. Snoopy

    Dot recommends the Virginia Slim vacuum cleaner.

  210. .

    Actually I recommend IF and giving up sugar. So do IT and Fisk. As does Gary Taubes.

  211. BrettW

    Dot,
    So to be clear all pregnant women should be treated with nicotine to prevent the one thing you say it helps with. Glad we cleared that up. Have you told the medical fraternity as your findings seem quite ground breaking ? I know several females who have had babies and none have mentioned the benefits of nicotine or tobacco in the process. The Government propaganda must be working.

    You should be a Dr as you think you know stuff.

    Just to clarify as I thought JC corrected you. Are you talking about nicotine or tobacco as you are making a lot of references to smoking but none to nicotine. You are obviously aware that smoking is not the proper manner to take nicotine (hence patches).

    A really strange world you (and others) must live in when anti smokers are considered loons.

  212. Rabz

    The definitive psychedelic single of the last four decades:

  213. C.L.

    Meanwhile … Malcolm Turnbull just reversed a cost-cutting commitment, restoring funding to extreme leftists who hate the Liberal Party.

    ABC Online: Federal Government to reverse community legal funding cuts, George Brandis says.

    The Federal Government will restore funding to the community legal sector in the May budget, abandoning cuts outlined in previous budgets after a backlash from the legal sector.

    The sector has been preparing itself for a 30 per cent funding cut from July 1 with some services warning their ability to assist vulnerable Australians would be immediately impacted.

    Federal Labor, peak legal bodies, the community legal sector and every state attorney-general have called for cuts to the sector to be overturned in recent years.

    The Government will restore $55.7 million to the sector over three years, including $16.7 million for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander legal services…

    Attorney-General George Brandis said the sector would be “delighted” by the funding announcement and called for domestic and family violence services to be prioritised.

    “It is an important announcement for the sector,” Senator Brandis told the ABC’s AM program.

    “[They] have been waiting and hoping that the Government would see their point of view and we have done that and delivered for them.”

  214. Andrew

    by 2020, Weatherdill will be appointed ambassador to the lesbian (he has experience with these matters)capital of the world.

    Melbourne?

  215. Fisky

    Bwahhahahaha!

    George Megalogenis‏ @GMegalogenis
    This thread. With a great last line.
    Callam Pickering‏ @CallamPickering
    With politicians treating their constituents like fools, often aspiring to be like Trump, I take solace in the popularity of Waleed Aly.

  216. JC

    The Government propaganda must be working.

    Governments don’t propagandize according to Rooster. No siree.

    It’s amusing watching this idiot (and let there be no mistake, he’s is an idiot) navigate subjects of a basic nature which is why he gives us opinions on Ray Hadley’s latest musings. When the subject becomes a little more complex, Rooster veers off straight into leftism.
    We saw that with his comments about why he thinks corporations have to pay more than their fair share.

  217. BrettW

    Dot,

    I looked up preclampsia and whilst it is related to blood pressure I did not note nicotine or tobacco as a method of prevention or treatment. It occurs in 1 in 20 pregnancies.

    Even if you take those points you mentioned the damage and high probability of ill health caused by smoking far far outweigh your listed benefits.

    However feel free to lament the Government conspiracy and propaganda that prevents more people from developing your level of expertise on these medical matters.

    Now you will have to forgive me but even loons have to sleep.

  218. Uh oh, JC is championing the poor multinationals who are being picked on by the nasty ATO. Careful it might trigger a new thread on the subject by one of the blogs authors who like to stand up for the big guys.

    How much did the ATO get Chevron for in the recent court ruling ? Oh yes, 250 million and that is just one company.

    Google, Amazon, Facebook etc have made an art form out of avoiding or reducing their tax liabilities here and elsewhere. As many like to point out some of their activities might not be illegal. Good on them.

    However if the ATO can prove their case in court or come to a mutual agreement to secure more tax from those companies that is more than fine by me.

  219. JC

    Even if you take those points you mentioned the damage and high probability of ill health caused by smoking far far outweigh your listed benefits.

    You innumerate slob. Dot’s mentioned it is the repetitive, heavy long term smoking that may cause heath problems. Being a fuckwit, this hasn’t sunk in. Governments and their propagandists blandly tell people that smoking is bad for health without explaining that is is also very much predicated on the amount of smokes consumed and over a period of time. Heavy long term smoking is bad for you. Smoking per se isn’t. In fact nicotine consumption is beneficial.

    However feel free to lament the Government conspiracy and propaganda that prevents more people from developing your level of expertise on these medical matters.

    My GP has often expressed admiration for nicotine and has referred to it as a miracle drug. This isn’t something that’s unknown , you imbecile.

    Now you will have to forgive me but even loons have to sleep.

    Good, but before you depart, let me say this. Governments have no business being involved with the issue of smoking. Smoking is a private health matter and the decision can be made by adults as to whether they smoke or not. Fuddy duddies like you and governments ought to fuck right off.

    Furthermore more, taxes on smokes are very regressive, which means it directly impacts on the poor and reduces their purchasing power. Shame of those who advocate taxes, or bans.

  220. JC

    Uh oh, JC is championing the poor multinationals who are being picked on by the nasty ATO. Careful it might trigger a new thread on the subject by one of the blogs authors who like to stand up for the big guys.

    Lol. You dickhead. You’re a leftist through and through.

    How much did the ATO get Chevron for in the recent court ruling ? Oh yes, 250 million and that is just one company.

    Chevron used an internal loan to reduce their tax liability in Australia. As you know, the discussion on the thread in question was dealing with your demands that overseas domiciled online firms pay taxes here in Australia. The online issue vs Chevron are not the same, you pea brained nincompoop.

    Google, Amazon, Facebook etc have made an art form out of avoiding or reducing their tax liabilities here and elsewhere. As many like to point out some of their activities might not be illegal. Good on them.

    However if the ATO can prove their case in court or come to a mutual agreement to secure more tax from those companies that is more than fine by me.

    If the ATO had a case it would have gone to court by now. It hasn’t because they have no standing. You were arguing steadfastly on that thread that you believe they have a moral duty to pay taxes in Australia. You totally dismissed the legitimate reasons explained by me and many others why they weren’t liable. You’re a left wing imbecile who also happens to listen to Ray Hadley.

  221. Fisky

    Indian migration scam also being shut down in the US. Pretty soon the only country that will take them is Canada. And that will probably change soon.

    Further alienating Indians, especially among its highly educated class, is the Trump administration’s reassessment of H1-B visas given mostly for information technology jobs. More than 85,000 are granted a year, the majority to Indians.

    “America was the land of great opportunity,” said Sanket Bafna, 21, as he emerged one afternoon last week from an exam at K.C. College, where he’s studying financial management. “It’s not the same land.”

    This year, undergraduate applications from India fell at 26 percent of United States educational institutions, and 15 percent of graduate programs, according to a survey of 250 American universities by the American Association of Collegiate Registrars and Admissions Officers.

  222. Andrew

    Furthermore more, taxes on smokes are very regressive, which means it directly impacts on the poor and reduces their purchasing power. Shame of those who advocate taxes, or bans.

    I find the argument “tax XYZ is regressive and hurts the poor” to be as compelling as “climate change overwhelmingly hurts communities of colour” or “wymminz are paid only 78% of men.” Speaking as a rich non smoking white man.

  223. Rev. Archibald

    That thing about ripping your lips off reads different than it sounded in my head.
    Have to stop saying that to everyone at work.
    A stupid joke anyway.
    For the autists out there: NADT.

  224. Mitch M.

    Governments and their propagandists blandly tell people that smoking is bad for health without explaining that is is also very much predicated on the amount of smokes consumed and over a period of time.

    That’s an important point. They used to do that but now it is blanket condemnation. Nicotine is not the problem, they even trialled it for Alzheimer’s but the trial failed. The other problem with smoking studies is that smokers are often not health conscious individuals so there is the problem of other factors like poor vitamin A intake that can make matters worse for the lungs. As for the health stuff governments carry on about citing economic benefits, a recent British study found that the skinny and healthy people cost the NHS much more because the health nuts are always ordering tests, going to the doctor, and live longer into disability years. I’m fed up with the lies from both governments and the medical profession on these issues.

    Nonetheless I think vaping is better.

  225. OneWorldGovernment

    This says it all about Australian Liberal Party, Economics and Business

    John Robert Hewson AM (born 28 October 1946) is an Australian economist, company director and a former politician. Known for his 650-page Fightback! policy package, he was federal leader of the Liberal Party of Australia and Leader of the Opposition from 1990 to 1994. He led the Coalition to defeat at the 1993 federal election.

  226. Zatara

    Macron – 23.0%
    Le Pen – 21.7%

    At the moment.

  227. srr

    Nick
    #2362235, posted on April 23, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    Whipping up a care package, a dominatrix with a clean oven, what are you reading tonight lol ?

    ha, the very near future, and it’s coming very fast and it’s very terrible, and the only defence left them before total derangements is delirium and babbling

    it’s a good day

  228. Tintarella di Luna

    These are not normal negotiations at all, there is no chance of a “deal”, and May should just go through the motions of negotiating for 2 years, agree to nothing, and then forcibly seize as much EU assets and territory as possible on the way out the door.

    The gnomes of Brussels have all be cut from the same cloth as Turnbull the Termite, vicious, venal and soulless.

  229. rickw

    Uh oh, JC is championing the poor multinationals who are being picked on by the nasty ATO. Careful it might trigger a new thread on the subject by one of the blogs authors who like to stand up for the big guys.

    I doubt Chevron will ever do another large project in Australia again, less sovereign risk pretty much anywhere else in the world. The ATO is doing a great job.

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