Open Forum: April 22, 2017

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  1. rickw

    Majority of French Armed Police Support Marine Le Pen

    That’s one of the most interesting stories today, given this one:

    French Election: ‘CIVIL WAR’ could break out after election, warns Marine Le Pen advisor

    If the police are on her side the army probably is too. That was (and is) the case with Trump.

    If Le Pen wins and the left tries Bastille Day Da Sequel it may be a very short day.

    I can only hope for France that all her enemies, domestic and imported, show their hand, and get killed for it.

  2. srr

    JUDGE JEANINE: SHUTTING DOWN FREE SPEECH ON CAMPUSES PUSHING USA TOWARD FASCISM

    U.S. CAMPUSES LEAD RISE IN GLOBAL ANTI-SEMITISM

    CA SCHOOL DISTRICT PUSHES CAIR-ASSISTED ‘ANTI-ISLAMOPHOBIA’ PLAN

    … yeah, nothing to see hear … no worrying patterns … history isn’t crying out …

  3. 2dogs

    If we MUST have 18C the remedy should be limited to mediation

    If we must have any laws limiting free speech, they must all be heard before a jury. If not, they will be used politically.

    We already have juries for:
    – disclosing national secrets
    – sedition
    – defamation (at the request of either party)

    But somehow, whenever SJWs get a law, the right to a jury trial goes out the window. And not just here in Australia, the same happens in the UK, Canada, pretty much everywhere.

  4. Gab

    Macron leads in the first round. A socialist leads in French elections, eh? Quelle surprise.

  5. duncanm

    Pumped (salt) hydro in SA has got to be the dumbest thing I’ve heard this month… and its April!

    There are so many brokens with it, I don’t know where to start.

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    Of course…

    United Nations Elects Saudi Arabia to Women’s Rights Commission

    I wonder if the Saudi representative on the women’s rights commission will be female?

  7. Top Ender

    Zulu at 11:16:

    …the attempts to impose modern mores and mindsets, onto those who lived in days gone by.

    Have you heard the one by George Bernard Shaw — ‘He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.’??? It was in his play Caesar and Cleopatra.

  8. john constantine

    Pumped salt water hydro to store ruinables power so it can be baseload is a real winner.

    [For whichever Oligarch gets the contract to transfer public prole outer economy wealth into inner economy oligarch wealth.]

  9. Fisky

    Oh dear…

    Matthew Goodwin‏ @GoodwinMJ
    Fillon endorses Macron. “Le Pen wd lead country to bankruptcy, chaos, violence, extremism, division… reflect on your conscience”, he says

  10. john constantine

    http://www.msn.com/en-au/money/company-news/the-next-car-you-buy-could-be-your-last-the-robo-taxi-era-is-closer-than-you-think/ar-BBAcTuB?li=AAgfOd8&ocid=AARDHP

    The State will control your transportation all too soon.

    Once robots do all the driving, the State can install artificial intelligence software to monitor all the proles all the time in cars, the State can regulate no-go areas for proles, impose curfews, ration road access, all the good stuff.

    Anybody still believe that their shorten foundation Oligarch coalition wouldn’t use State control of car transport to crush dissent?

    [You can still keep your old car, but road registration will be ten thousand dollars a year. truckies pay more for rego, it is only social justice.]

  11. calli

    Rabz, on vacuum cleaners. Get a Dyson barrel style. I’ve had the same one for 13 years and have given it an absolute caning (including cleanup during house construction).

    If it gets a bit clogged, you can knock the whole thing down for cleaning. Just a simple washup. You’ll need a Torx head screwdriver for that.

  12. struth

    Matthew Goodwin‏ @GoodwinMJ
    Fillon endorses Macron. “Le Pen wd lead country to bankruptcy, chaos, violence, extremism, division… reflect on your conscience”, he says

    Good moaning.

    Without a hint of ironing.

  13. Gab

    United Nations Elects Saudi Arabia to Women’s Rights Commission

    Right up there with them being elected to head the UN human rights commission.

    The UN is seriously taking the piss and no one dare criticise them and the UN’s Arab Bloc, which really holds all the power.

  14. srr

    Vive la France?

    **Live Wire** Shock: Le Pen First Place?

    …Will Face Macron in Runoff

    Historic Defeat for Establishment

    Last Update : 2017/04/24 06:43Sort by : ↓ ↑

    06:31 Third Report Places Le Pen in Lead

    Italian media outlet Repubblica is reporting a slightly stronger lead for Le Pen:

    Le Pen 24.3%

    Macron 22.5%

    Fillon 19.4%

    Melenchon 18.2%

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/04/23/live-wire-france-votes/

  15. calli

    Wow. Le Pen has set the cat among the pigeons! Apparently her advancement has morphed her from “far right” to “extreme far right”. Next step will be cataclysmic.

  16. srr

    LIVE FRENCH VOTE
    Le Pen 23%
    Macron 23%

    Paris Riot Police Clash With ‘Anti Fascists’ Angry With Le Pen Breakthrough

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/04/23/live-wire-france-votes/

  17. cohenite

    If macaroni wins france is cheese.

  18. srr

    So, she walked it in and now the UN&EU Mobsters just have to terrorise the people into saying they believe she lost.

  19. struth

    Sportsbet out to 6/1 on MLP win.
    Expect that to change shortly.

  20. struth

    Macron is open borders.
    Marine le Pen has won, even if she doesn’t win.

    Civil war for France, or nearly.
    This is the breaking point.

  21. srr

    Seriously, how many, ‘sorry, you can’t have what you voted for‘ “results” does the EU&UN have to hand the world (and let the world know that’s what they’ve done!), before The Right does become ‘extreme’ and simply moves in on and swarms those little dicktators just as the the little dicktators have swarmed The Right with their mussie and antiFASCIST thugs ….

  22. srr

    …97% OF VOTES COUNTED…

    LIVE FRENCH VOTE
    Le Pen 23%
    Macron 23%

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/04/23/live-wire-france-votes/
    ____________________________________

    Makes one wonder what huge run away win she’s really had, and likewise for Wilders et al …

  23. Fisky

    Wow

    Andrew Neil‏ @afneil
    Macron now on 23.2%, Le Pen on 22.8%. Melenchon says he won’t make endorsement in 2nd round which, given choice for socialist, is remarkable

  24. srr

    Drudge –

    EU DEATH MATCH:
    LE PEN VS MACRON

  25. Fisky

    The Far Left not endorsing Macron is good news for Le Pen.

  26. struth

    Extreme right wing is anarchy.
    Extreme left wing is collectivism Fascism (a bundle of sticks) communism, socialism.

    Totalitarianism.

    Seeing no one is asking for no government at all, there is no extreme right wing movement anywhere I can see.

    I want all these arseholes going around describing everyone as extreme right wing, what that actually means, ……………………..let’s face it they don’t know.
    It must mean WWWWWAAAAAAASSSSIIISTTS!

    Dumb, brainwashed, violent ………………..

    We are going to have to fight them here as well.
    The sooner the less violence will occur.

  27. Tel

    Well Le Pen won the first round, which I think we all predicted.

    Big question is second round when it becomes everyone vs Le Pen… same thing that Trump was up against, all the media. Macron is totally the establishment candidate (no matter how much bullshit “independent” he wants to pretend to be). All of the establishment will get behind Macron.

  28. egg_

    Pumped (salt) hydro in SA has got to be the dumbest thing I’ve heard this month… and its April!

    There are so many brokens with it, I don’t know where to start.

    Catherine Tanna about to beclown herself?
    Are her Engineers just telling the bimbo what she wants to hear?

  29. struth

    LIVE FRENCH VOTE
    Le Pen 23%
    Macron 23%

    Funny how it’s neck and neck……just saying.

  30. Tel

    I wonder if the Saudi representative on the women’s rights commission will be female?

    I guess we will never know…

  31. srr

    … it links to this pathetically extreme pro-EU propaganda in the Daily Mail with this even more outrageously bias headline –

    France faces its own EU referendum as far-right Europhobe Marine Le Pen and independent centrist Emmanuel Macron beat two main parties to go head to head in presidential elections after tight vote

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4437156/Leading-candidates-cast-votes-French-election.html#ixzz4f72hYcjE
    __________________

    “First, kill all the lawyers journalists”

    Gotta give ’em a fair trial before we kill ’em 😉

    NADT, just kicking sand in the face of a speck of fly shit 😀 😆

  32. calli

    And naturally the usual suspects were objecting to the mere chance that Le Pen might get up.

  33. srr

    struth
    #2362355, posted on April 24, 2017 at 8:02 am

    We are going to have to fight them here as well.
    The sooner the less violence will occur.

    Correct.

  34. FBI Director James Comey distrusted former Attorney General Loretta Lynch because he believed she and other top Justice Department officials had political motives to hinder or downplay the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s email scandal, a new report reveals.

  35. Notafan

    Not much hope for le Pen if everyone else plumps for Macron.

    Darn it.

    Fillon is a greedy fool.

    Ruined it.


    Same as the other times

  36. Who is Emmanuel Macron?

    At a rally in Paris he told supporters: “In your name, I will be… the voice of hope for our country and for Europe.”

    “I want to be the president of the patriots against the threat of nationalists,” he said.

    Nobody believes this.

  37. If France implodes there must be no rear exit for globalists. In fact, this should be true everywhere. You cultivated bedlam, now you must own it. Hard.

  38. Infidel Tiger

    It’s over for France.

    Stupid dickheads.

  39. C.L.

    LOL: Gerry Harvey wages war on Amazon.

    Harvey Norman founder Gerry Harvey has launched a blistering attack on Amazon by stamping it the “Attila the Hun” of the retail world in its zeal to destroy everything in its path, while vowing to give the US online giant the fight of its life when it sets up in ­Australia.

    Harvey admits he’s been price-gouging the Australian public:

    Mr Harvey, whose furniture, bedding and electronics chain is considered by many analysts as one of the most vulnerable retailers to a full-on assault on the local market by Amazon, said Harvey Norman would “match or beat’’ any price put out by Amazon to defend its earnings.

    How will he defeat Amazon? Guess:

    Mr Harvey added Amazon had not paid GST for years in Australia, and was lobbying the federal government along with fellow online retailers Etsy and eBay to dump plans to apply the 10 per cent tax from July 1 to all sales under $1000 sourced from offshore websites.

    “They (Amazon) have had a free ride in this country now for such a long time, because they pay no GST and all the local ­retailers have — now they come here and will try to send all the local retailers broke.’’

  40. Tel

    Le Pen would lead country to bankruptcy, chaos, violence, extremism, division… reflect on your conscience

    Hmmm let’s compare that with the current government of France:
    === Bankruptcy?
    France has run a deficit every year since 1980. Government debt is 96% of GDP.

    === Chaos?
    Riots and burning cars have become NORMAL in Paris in the past decade. The government has officially accepted terrorism as just a fact of life. Country is under state of emergency and martial law, but that’s not actually solved anything.

    === Violence?
    Long list of dead: Charlie Hebdo, Bataclan, truck attacks… etc. etc. etc.

    === Extremism?
    Some fairly large percentage (about a quarter) of young French Muslims openly declare they are above the law. Presumably others believe the same but don’t openly declare it. Here’s a survey where one in six French citizens is willing to openly declare support for Islamic State:

    http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-citizens-support-isis-poll-finds-266795

    That’s the Islamic State that practices ethnic cleansing, murders homosexuals, burns people alive in cages, trades in sex slaves. There’s a non-trival number of people who support that. Also French citizens have gone to fight for IS and then come right back into French society.

    === Division?
    In France they have neighbourhoods of people were generations don’t work. They have people sleeping in camps on the street.

    How could Le Pen do worse on any of the above? Seriously.

  41. Infidel Tiger

    Le Pens weakest demographic is 70+ year olds.

    What a weird country. We must ban french immigration at once.

  42. struth

    There is even more at stake in the French election for global socialism than the USA, in the immediate future, because they have more invested in Europe and it was always going to be easier than the states.
    They have a stronger hold, and the French don’t have freedom of speech.

    If it wasn’t for muslim violence, France would have sleep walked into the abyss with the rest of Europe.
    It still may be too late.
    That is why I reckon the left have rightly stuffed up with choosing Islam as it’s front line forces.
    Now it is out in the open.
    The results prove there is massive support for sovereign nations.
    Either MLP wins and there will be violence on the streets that will make the US look like a prayer meeting,
    or she loses and there will be violence on the streets that will make the US look like a prayer meeting.
    It had to come to this.
    The evil of the left never rests.
    It should never have been allowed to get this far.
    In Europe, here or anywhere.

  43. Notafan

    Someone linked an excellent article on the French divide a couple of days ago.

    The French elite with their Moroccan/ Algerian gardeners and maids still don’t get it but then the ban lieus are out of sight out of mind.

    Until they’re not.

  44. srr

    LIVE FRENCH VOTE
    Macron 23.2%
    Le Pen 22.9%

  45. Mr Harvey, whose furniture, bedding and electronics chain is considered by many analysts as one of the most vulnerable retailers to a full-on assault on the local market by Amazon, said Harvey Norman would “match or beat’’ any price put out by Amazon to defend its earnings.

    I love me a dose of good old fashioned competition.

  46. Baldrick

    Harvey Norman founder Gerry Harvey has launched a blistering attack on Amazon by stamping it the “Attila the Hun” of the retail world in its zeal to destroy everything in its path, while vowing to give the US online giant the fight of its life when it sets up in ­Australia.

    Anti-competition cockhead Gerry is no friend of the consumer.

  47. Hydra

    So basically MLP has no chance in round 2 now?

    Just great.

  48. Fisky

    Le Pen won the 35-59 demographics. Fillon got everything over 60. I think Macron got 25-34 and the Far Left everything under 25.

    If Fillon had done the right thing and dropped out after his scandal broke…

  49. Baldrick

    The French just love socialism, even of it means sharing it with rogue truck drivers.

  50. struth

    Maybe we could ask Hollywood for their prediction on the French election.

    CNN?

  51. Infidel Tiger

    With the youth vote all going to outsider parties, civil war is inevitable in a decade.

    Let us pray that the vineyards of Burgundy and Bordeaux are not harmed.

  52. struth

    The French just love socialism, even of it means sharing it with rogue truck drivers.

    I agree, but we are proving to be no better.

  53. Infidel Tiger

    Matthew Yglesias‏ @mattyglesias

    I am 99% on board with totally phasing out fossil fuels, but I really don’t want to go back to cooking on an electric stove.

    Far out.

  54. egg_

    Anti-competition cockhead Gerry is no friend of the consumer.

    Dinosaur takes on Amazon.

  55. incoherent rambler

    Fillon got everything over 60.

    Not surprising.

    Anyone in this age group (as in AU) has been robbed blind by the state.
    Bad pension prospects. No chance of self support because they can’t get work.
    They need the state to support them. The street living demographic is not young.

  56. struth

    Gerry Harvey is the sort of bloke who would blame his competitor for winning the running race and not the arseholes that broke his leg.

  57. lotocoti

    Le Pens weakest demographic is 70+ year olds.

    They probably think she is no Big Charles.

  58. Fisky

    Mickey Kaus‏ @kausmickey
    By 61 to 30 voters disapprove Trump giving Ivanka and Jared Kushner jobs. Wonder what their approval ratings are… (link: http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/politics/post-abc-poll-trump-popularity-through-nearly-100-days-as-president/2198/) apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/politic…

  59. struth

    The French just love socialism, even of it means sharing it with rogue truck drivers.

    Australians just love socialism , funded by rogue truck drivers.!!!

  60. struth

    By the way, my money is still on Le Pen, the welfare state of Islamic countries compared to the welfare state of France , when it gets to the serious vote at the end.

  61. Roger

    France: largest Muslim population in W. Europe & highest rate of terror attacks.

    Macron: “No religion is a problem in France.”

    On the + side he has promised to cut taxes and spending. What chance the bureaucracy will advise him the country can’t afford to?

  62. srr

    MACRON: TERRORISM ‘PART OF OUR DAILY LIVES FOR YEARS TO COME’

    MACRON AGAINST ARRESTING AND DEPORTING RADICAL ISLAMISTS

    Marine Le Pen: Islamism Has Declared War On Our Nation, On Reason, On Civilisation

    And then there’s this video, that I still find one of the most gut wrenching –

    The Rebel‏Verified account @TheRebelTV Apr 22

    VIDEO: Ex-Muslim confronts leftist #Paris mayor Hidalgo over terror attack
    https://www.therebel.media/video_ex_muslim_confronts_leftist_paris_mayor_hidalgo_over_terror_attack … | #frenchelection2017 #tcot #Islam

    All those Parisians, standing around, watching, hearing, recording, knowing everything he says, everything he cries from the core of his being, is true … but … but … but do the French know, somewhere in the remains of their soul, that they deserve to die horribly for all the ‘liberty‘ from faith in God that they infected the world with, by raising it to ‘high art‘ and ‘high intellect‘ status?

  63. Geriatric Mayfly

    Cooking on smouldering cow dung is excellent for the very fashionable slow method, but not much good for a quick stir fry. On the plus side; the smoke will keep the mozzies at bay.

    I am 99% on board with totally phasing out fossil fuels, but I really don’t want to go back to cooking on an electric stove.

  64. val majkus

    on those marches for whatever:

    Are you against government-funded science? If you are, you must be against all science! That’s the conclusion of a large number of parasites and freaks who went to giant costume parties all around the world dressed in white coats to give themselves a patina of authority …

    a couple of excerpts of what they said and did:

    “I’m really concerned that Trump wants to cut the budget for the EPA,” April Castoldi said. “My mom was an employee of the EPA…” Emily Fink, 28, and Kayla Denson, 29, are biomedical researchers who drove seven hours from Buffalo to attend the march, and they said they fear the Trump administration’s proposed budget cuts will imperil their careers…. Craig Fryer, 47, marched down Constitution Avenue alongside several of his colleagues from the University of Maryland School of Public Health, all wearing T-shirts that read “Black Scientists Matter.” Fryer, a behavioral scientist who studies substance abuse, carried a sign that proclaimed “Black Scientists Speaking Truth to Power.” He said he and his colleagues are concerned about racial disparities in funding for research …

    conclusion:

    What none of these marchers addressed is the fact that even without government funding of science, most scientific research, especially most practical scientific research, is done by the private sector. That’s where most inventions come from. But under the guise of science, they claim that anyone against government funding of science is against science, just as they claim that anyone against illegal immigration is against immigration, and anyone against abortion is against women’s health, and so on.

    The slogan of the marchers is “There is no planet B.” How did planet “A” manage to exist and function before there was a government to spend billions of taxpayer dollars on “science”?

  65. srr

    Breaking News‏ @BreakingNLive 2h

    BREAKING; Damage and riots in #Paris as now 1300 protesters/rioters are on the streets.
    ‘Don’t go to #bastille now’

  66. val majkus

    a bit of history on whether or not climate science is influenced by politics:

    But political influence? Big surprise.

    After all, for at least the past eight years, atmospheric science in the form of “carbon pollution” is causing caustic chaos across the climate cosmos, has been practically front and center on the previous administration’s agenda. And the previous administration, like so many before it, was all about pure objectivity in science.

    Except that it wasn’t. Nor were earlier administrations.

    Politics influenced past scientific practice. Consider the roots of the global warming issue. Skipping the fact that the fear of the 1970s during the era of the first Earth Day – which began on April 22, 1970 – was the coming of the next ice age, the global warming frenzy began in earnest on June 23, 1988. On that day, Senator Timothy Wirth had organized congressional hearings on climate change, staging the event on one of the hottest days of the year. Senator Wirth and his staff left the windows of the hearing room open all the sweltering night before the meeting to ensure an uncomfortable event the next day.

    Furthermore, as noted in a recent commentary for The Washington Times, the year 1988 “also saw the establishment of the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. The IPCC’s stated role is to assess the ‘risk of human-induced climate change, its potential impacts and options for adaptation and mitigation[.]” Typically, scientific investigation is not directed to find a preordained conclusion. There is a tendency, rather, to heed what Upton Sinclair cautioned: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

    And the championing of the climate craze by political scientist Al Gore is legendary, as is his An Inconvenient Truth film and his anticipated to be equally mythical movie opening this summer, An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power.

    So, with politics already clouding climate science, is a dissipating of the political fog necessary by the current administration?

  67. Ragu

    There is such a thing as marine grade stainless.

    Which will end up clogged beyond use with marine organisms within eighteen months without regular maintenance, backflushing and scouring. Which is why there is no such thing as a cost-effective wave or tide power generator.

    It’s called 316 stainless. To suggest that an impeller in constant motion can become clogged up shows a complete lack of understanding of anything.

  68. Baldrick

    BREAKING; Damage and riots in #Paris as now 1300 protesters/rioters are on the streets.
    ‘Don’t go to #bastille now’

    Louise Mensch will be out with a Tweet shortly blaming Russian actors.

  69. srr

    Andrew Neil‏Verified account @afneil 5h5 hours ago

    If Macron v Le Pen then, as I was saying on Sunday Politics, 1st time in history of 5th republic, neither mainstream party made 2nd round
    _______________________

    Which means Le Pen IS THE Mainstream, and Macron is the bought, paid, bribed, blackmailed and outright lying and cheating EU/UN Sewer Rat.

  70. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Comment at the Oz, about the French election – “Le Pen or Le Caliphate.”

  71. Roger

    “Le Pen or Le Caliphate.”

    Le Caliphate, s’il vous plaît.

  72. incoherent rambler

    Le Pen is mightier than the scimitar.

    True/False?

  73. Geriatric Mayfly

    BREAKING; Damage and riots in #Paris as now 1300 protesters/rioters are on the streets.
    Philosophers one and all.

  74. Rabz

    “Could I speak to Utu?”

    No, you may not.

  75. Rabz

    United Nations Elects Saudi Arabia to Women’s Rights Commission

    The UN. Beyond parody since about 1967.

  76. struth

    BREAKING; Damage and riots in #Paris as now 1300 protesters/rioters are on the streets.
    Philosophers one and all.

    Hey Monty,
    You guys just hate democracy don’t you?

  77. Ragu

    The Western Force have gently reminded the ARU of the binding contract which sees the Force in existence until 2020.
    The ARU, having told the Super rugby bosses that the Force will be axed at the end of 2017, are in media lockdown while they look for cigar butts and cognac glasses behind the leather lounges.
    One of the lawyers representing the Force once paddled out into the WA surf to rescue a mate whose surf ski had been bitten in half by a shark.
    Look out ARU.

    Is Stookie still on the WARugby board?

    WA rugby took decades to put on a decent canteen at Perry Lakes. I would think lawfare may not be in the best interests of the board in considering that they pissed off anybody that had a clue about the game and how to look after the juniors.

  78. Baldrick

    Who the fuck is Sam Johnson?

  79. Tom

    Hey Monty,
    You guys just hate democracy don’t you?

    Is the pope a Stalinist?

  80. Rabz

    he (Macron) has promised to cut taxes and spending

    LOL

  81. Oh come on

    Runoff prediction – 35 to 65 for Macron. A good chunk of the commies will break for Le Pen, but most of Fillon’s supporters will stick with a lamestream pro-EU candidate. We’ll see Marine again in five years – assuming the centre right hasn’t adopted much of her manifesto, which seems far from unlikely considering what’ll probably take place over the next five years.

    A wildcard disruptor between now and the second round ballot will be a major terrorist attack.

  82. The Child Bride just rang up.
    CB: “A bloke wants to buy our fridge.”
    Big two door bastard. The fridge, not the bloke.
    CB: “How much do you want for it?”
    Winston: “Buggered if I know. How much does he want to pay?”
    CB: “Buggered if I know.”
    WS: “How about three slabs?”
    Winston loves Bloke Currency. Fungible as all hell. Except for Southwark Dollars. Really poor rate of exchange.
    CB: “Done.”
    The free market at work.

  83. struth

    United Nations Elects Saudi Arabia to Women’s Rights Commission

    The whole of Australia could stand up in one voice and denounce membership of the U.N. and you know it would fall on deaf ears.
    Our pollies are addicted to it.
    Our media will not cover a single issue about them unless they fear we are breaking one of their undemocratic demands.

    The best thing Trump could do right now, for the entire world would be to defund it.

  84. val majkus

    Piers Akerman on that conversion:

    But before praising Turnbull too effusively for highlighting the values beloved of and fundamental to Western liberal democracies, it must be pointed out that it has taken him a very long time to ­acknowledge the core philosophies that most conservatives consider essential to civilisation.

    This illustrates his essential weakness. Not only isn’t he a natural conservative, he’s ­indecisive and lacks commitment to any basic philosophy beyond the warm and wet luvvy environmentalism and flawed concepts of multiculturalism that have ABC staff swooning …
    In belatedly acknowledging Australian values and talking up an overdue overhaul of the 457 visa scheme, Turnbull is trying to recapture the votes of those who have written him off as a verbose, out-of-touch multi-millionaire.

    He’s trying to seize the ground his predecessor Tony Abbott naturally occupied but the electorate smells a phony.

    Turnbull needs the base he thought he could safely ignore when he went to the polls last July only to narrowly squeak across the line.

    But he will ­remain the verbose, out-of-touch multi-millionaire while ever he repeats his boring paens to multiculturalism and plays footsy with the environmental movement with thought bubbles about expensive battery-led plans to provide a greater degree of energy ­security to the nation.

    The federal government’s own plans to provide $50 million in back-up diesel generators for its $90 billion South Australian-based submarine and ship contracts would indicate that Defence Department realists better ­appreciate how dangerous it would be to rely on lunatic alternative energy sources than do those in Turnbull’s office who keep pushing the eco-freak message….

  85. struth

    Is the pope a Stalinist?

    Is the pope a Christian ?

  86. Nick

    A wildcard disruptor between now and the second round ballot will be a major terrorist attack.

    Le Pen’s voice alone during that time will also represent a sizeable opposition.

  87. Ragu

    There is no centre-right in France. It’s all different shades of socialism

  88. srr

    Paul Joseph Watson‏Verified account @PrisonPlanet 7h7 hours ago

    Trump would still beat Hillary today in the electoral college AND the popular vote, Washington Post poll finds.
    _________________

    And that’s with a Dem+7 skewed poll in a Rep Majority Nation, and with 90% Negative Media for Trump’s first 100 days, and … and the liars will keep loving the lie unto their eternal death.

  89. You lot have got this icecream thing arse about.
    Most of the ‘Luxury” icecream these days isn’t made the same as it was.
    These days, the stuff isn’t churned to break up the ice crystals, it’s thickened with gum. That’s why it’s so smooth.
    It’s crap.
    Make your own.

  90. egg_

    an impeller in constant motion

    By its very definition, it’s not, that would be defeating its design purpose – ‘storage’.

  91. Oh come on

    What sort of pissant military power is France if half of its army is permanently deployed on French streets policing its own citizens?

  92. Ragu

    The only redeeming difference between all political parties in France is whether a government employee can retire, on a full pension at 44 years of age or 42.

  93. Ragu

    What sort of pissant military power is France if half of its army is permanently deployed on French streets policing its own citizens?

    You are mixing up Police with Gendarmes

  94. A wildcard disruptor between now and the second round ballot will be a major terrorist attack.

    The crazy thing is that the muzzies have consistently demonstrated that they are stupid enough to do just this.

  95. calli

    Macron: “No religion is a problem in France.”

    In a way that’s true.

  96. Oh come on

    It’s useful to define what a “full pension” constitutes, too, Ragu. IIRC it’s 80% of your salary upon retirement. Indexed to some absurdly high metric, no doubt.

  97. Oh come on

    No, Ragu, a helluva lot of French soldiers are on the streets

  98. Oh come on

    And have been so for some time.

  99. stackja

    The Oz

    THE TIMES
    French elections: Emmanuel Macron, Marine Le Pen to battle for presidency
    ADAM SAGE
    The Times 9:06AM April 24, 2017
    A triumphant Emmanuel Macron basked in the acclaim of his supporters as he reflected that his unlikely assault on the French presidency was launched only last April. “In one year we have changed the face of French political life,” he said.
    His supporters erupted in joyful song at the announcement that he had triumphed in the first round of the presidential election. Hundreds of people who had packed into an exhibition centre in southern Paris greeted the news with hoarse renditions of La Marseillaise and chants of “Macron president” – a reflection of their belief that the pro-European centrist will go on to defeat Marine Le Pen in the second round two weeks from now.

    Ms Le Pen will attack him as the embodiment of a global elite rejected by ordinary French families – and the crowd of supporters who turned out to cheer him last night (Sunday) underlined her point. They were mostly middle-class Parisians with comfortable jobs that shelter them from the crisis affecting provincial France.

  100. struth

    Runoff prediction – 35 to 65 for Macron. A good chunk of the commies will break for Le Pen, but most of

    Fillon’s supporters will stick with a lamestream pro-EU candidate. We’ll see Marine again in five years – assuming the centre right hasn’t adopted much of her manifesto, which seems far from unlikely considering what’ll probably take place over the next five years.

    A wildcard disruptor between now and the second round ballot will be a major terrorist attack.

    Marine Le Pen has socialist policies.
    French are socialist leaning people.
    That doesn’t mean they are for tearing their borders down and becoming a caliphate.
    Welfare and big government dependent frogs will take the French State welfare over the welfare offered by the caliphate.
    French have Islam shoved in their face and are living with it much more than we are here.
    Women have seen it’s violent misogynist reality.
    Everyone has seen it’s violent reality in France.

    A socialist is not pro caliphate.
    A cultural Marxist is.
    Hey, most of the time they are both, and a cultural Marxist is always a socialist, but not the other way round.

    That’s where a socialist like Le Pen can win.

    And just for the record, I don’t think she is that much of a socialist, she has just factored in that economically she has to appear as one, and have socialist policies to defeat the E.U. Islamic invasion.
    it’s priorities.

  101. Baldrick

    Macron: “No religion is a problem in France.”

    Macron: “No religion, is a problem in France.”
    It fixes it.

  102. calli

    Ice cream. You can make a quite acceptable icecream without a churn. Condensed milk, whipped cream plus flavouring.

  103. calli

    It’s all in the emphasis, Balders.

  104. bystander

    Adam
    #2362379, posted on April 24, 2017 at 8:29 am

    I love me a dose of good old fashioned competition.

    Baldrick
    #2362380, posted on April 24, 2017 at 8:30 am

    Anti-competition cockhead Gerry is no friend of the consumer.

    Can someone explain how, if competition should reduce prices, restaurants and cafes in Canberra can defy the basic law of competition and operate with very high prices?

  105. struth

    That first sentence was also part of the quote.

  106. Rabz

    he will ­remain the verbose, out-of-touch multi-millionaire while ever he repeats his boring paens to multiculturalism and plays footsy with the environmental movement

    Every single day that fat waffling windbag remains as PM this country gets closer to economic and socio-cultural armageddon.

    The end result? Tits Peanut Head as PM.

    If I was leader of the gliberals, I would run a simple three message slogan for the next election. labor will:

    Put a CGT on your home
    Reintroduce death duties
    Steal “your” super

    With one other ad focusing totally on them flooding the country with moozleys (again).

    labor would be smashed. At least two of the four things above would be true if they won, so you couldn’t be accused of running a campaign completely based on lies.

  107. egg_

    The pump station is usually a wet well or sump structure in which pumps are mounted. It
    is located on-shore at a site that allows easy access and connection to the desalination plant. These
    structures can be quite large, as they usually include pumps, controls, chemical feed equipment (if
    necessary), large primary screening devices like bar rack screens, secondary traveling screen
    assemblies
    , multiple chambers, and a backwashing (sparging) system.

  108. Ragu

    I could be wrong, I usually am, but there is a distinct separation of the various types of armed enforcement in France.

    Yes, Gendarmes have no jurisdiction in cities. (Which is why you can tell a Gendarme to go and get fucked if he pulls you over in a department city or town) Neither does the Army. Only police, so they got around that by forming SWAT teams under the umbrella of the police force.

  109. Hydra

    Can someone explain how, if competition should reduce prices, restaurants and cafes in Canberra can defy the basic law of competition and operate with very high prices?

    Because everything is fucking priced highly in this country?

  110. Oh come on

    Remember when pundits thought President-elect Hollande would get tough with the BundesbankECB? Then he turned out to be a total poodle.

    Actually, Sarkozy was all pumped up to sandblast the Islamist scum out of their ghettoes, too. That went well.

    I expect Macron to tread the same pathetic path of abandoned promises.

  111. Oh come on

    Ragu, France has been under a state of emergency for some time.

  112. Hydra

    They were mostly middle-class Parisians with comfortable jobs that shelter them from the crisis affecting provincial France.

    Disgraceful buggers, the lot of them.

  113. Roger

    You are mixing up Police with Gendarmes

    No, oco is just about correct.

    France is in a state of emergency with 10 000 soldiers deployed guarding public buildings.

    Not half but enough to impact on operational capabilities abroad given that the state of emergency looks like being virtually indefinite.

  114. Baldrick

    Can someone explain how, if competition should reduce prices, restaurants and cafes in Canberra can defy the basic law of competition and operate with very high prices?

    There are always exceptions to the rule. Canberra having an artificial economy, supported largely by government handouts, is one.

  115. Ragu

    Ok, I forgot about that.

  116. Oh come on

    French are socialist leaning people.

    They are also intellectual snobs who won’t be able to bring themselves to vote for a non-elitist. Unless their backs are well and truly up against the wall. And even then….

  117. Ez

    If I was leader of the gliberals, I would run a simple three message slogan for the next election. labor will:

    Put a CGT on your home
    Reintroduce death duties
    Steal “your” super

    It can be hard to criticise policy you agree with.

  118. Roger

    Not half but enough to impact on operational capabilities abroad given that the state of emergency looks like being virtually indefinite.

    Which suits the Islamists in the Maghreb & the Sahel just fine.

  119. val majkus

    Put a CGT on your home
    Reintroduce death duties
    Steal “your” super

    +

    only allow transports to be driven by TWU members
    genderise your children
    reduce and/or destabilise your energy supply
    add to the budget deficit

  120. egg_

    a large number of parasites and freaks who went to giant costume parties all around the world dressed in white coats to give themselves a patina of authority …

    That’s what you get with Govt handouts.

  121. Oh come on

    Funny that a country that prides itself on its revolution whereby it purged itself of its monarchy and aristocracy, the Paris Commune etc etc wouldn’t dare countenance electing anyone not hailing from the political aristocracy.

  122. .

    United Nations Elects Saudi Arabia to Women’s Rights Commission

    Pull out now, FFS.

  123. Ragu

    They are also intellectual snobs who won’t be able to bring themselves to vote for a non-elitist. Unless their backs are well and truly up against the wall. And even then….

    Completely true.

    ‘you don’t understand, we are French!’

    Independent and fucked. Liberté, Egalité, Connards

  124. srr

    Jordan B Peterson Retweeted
    Benjamin Netanyahu‏Verified account @netanyahu 12h12 hours ago

    The more they kill, the more they get. RETWEET so that the world knows the truth about the Palestinian Authority’s payments to terrorists.
    https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/856112923202265088
    ___________________________

    Over a Billion paid out to Muslims gaoled for murder, in the last decade.

    Take in the whole thread.

  125. Oh come on

    Of course the ABC is running interference for Macron, claiming he isn’t a political insider because he hasn’t run for office before, in spite of his impeccable political connections with the elite.

  126. egg_

    What none of these marchers addressed is the fact that even without government funding of science, most scientific research, especially most practical scientific research, is done by the private sector. That’s where most inventions come from. But under the guise of science, they claim that anyone against government funding of science is against science, just as they claim that anyone against illegal immigration is against immigration, and anyone against abortion is against women’s health, and so on.

    Bingo!

  127. egg_

    United Nations Elects Saudi Arabia to Women’s Rights Commission

    Fox now running hen house.

  128. .

    I say egg. How much public funding did Edison and Tesla get? Not much except when they sold an actual system or product I’d reckon.

  129. .

    Mitch M.
    #2362312, posted on April 24, 2017 at 2:50 am
    Governments and their propagandists blandly tell people that smoking is bad for health without explaining that is is also very much predicated on the amount of smokes consumed and over a period of time.

    That’s an important point. They used to do that but now it is blanket condemnation. Nicotine is not the problem, they even trialled it for Alzheimer’s but the trial failed. The other problem with smoking studies is that smokers are often not health conscious individuals so there is the problem of other factors like poor vitamin A intake that can make matters worse for the lungs. As for the health stuff governments carry on about citing economic benefits, a recent British study found that the skinny and healthy people cost the NHS much more because the health nuts are always ordering tests, going to the doctor, and live longer into disability years. I’m fed up with the lies from both governments and the medical profession on these issues.

    Nonetheless I think vaping is better.

    Well said – now what is the legal status of vaping here in Australia?

  130. Ragu

    Funny that a country that prides itself on its revolution whereby it purged itself of its monarchy and aristocracy, the Paris Commune etc etc wouldn’t dare countenance electing anyone not hailing from the political aristocracy.

    Funny how a country that hated Nahzees turned to socialism as it’s saviour. Also funny that they hate the Vichy period but keep electing people from that region.

  131. struth

    Funny that a country that prides itself on its revolution whereby it purged itself of its monarchy and aristocracy, the Paris Commune etc etc wouldn’t dare countenance electing anyone not hailing from the political aristocracy.

    All of you guys have valid points, and the French are not really that predictable in this situation.

    But MLP got as many votes (and probably many more) than the EU puppet against her.
    Therefore they are voting for her in large numbers.

    Socialists in my view are predictable.
    A socialist will do better receiving the French nation largesse, than to live under no welfare in a totalitarian caliphate.
    The left is the politics of envy and entitlement.
    The largesse that should be going to them, is going to young male invading mussies, as they see it.
    They will vote with their hip pockets.
    But the election will very very likely be rigged.

  132. .

    Uh oh, JC is championing the poor multinationals who are being picked on by the nasty ATO. Careful it might trigger a new thread on the subject by one of the blogs authors who like to stand up for the big guys.

    Really Brett?

    You comment here as a “conservative” but you like big government, demonisation of corporations, high taxes, socialism and government lies about science funded by the taxpayer?

    This is why Ray Hadley ought to come with plain packaging and a health warning.

  133. struth

    Pull out now, FFS.

    Where have I heard that before?

    Anyhooooo,

    Could you imagine the response you would get from Malturd and skeletor if you suggested that to them?

    No public servant likes their department closed down.

  134. srr

    Nick DeSenso‏ @NickDeSenso 3h3 hours ago

    To the feral left, “tolerance” has evolved into meaning acceptance of a greater probability that your child will be murdered by a terrorist.

  135. Oh come on

    It is going to be interesting to watch what happens when President Macron’s private life is subjected to the scrutiny that Hollande and Sarkozy faced.

  136. .

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2855389/

    How does smoking reduce the risk of preeclampsia?

    Amazing. In terms of preeclampsia, it is the smoking, not the nicotine which is protective:

    Although smoking during pregnancy may lead to many adverse effects such as fetal growth restriction, placental abruption, stillbirth, and preterm labor, smoking is the only environmental exposure known consistently to reduce the risk of preeclampsia and gestational hypertension1. The manuscript by Wikström et al is a major step forward in understanding this protective effect2. Using data from the Swedish Medical Birth Register in a large epidemiological study of more than 600,000 Nordic women, the authors conclude that use of Swedish snuff, a smokeless tobacco, did not reduce the risk of preeclampsia and gestational hypertension, but that tobacco when smoked did. They infer that combustion products of tobacco such as carbon monoxide protect against preeclampsia, but that constituents of tobacco such as nicotine do not. The data strengthen and extend results of a prior smaller study using the Swedish Medical Birth Register, which had reported a similar association3.

    Maybe we evolved to sit around campfires?

  137. .

    Could you imagine the response you would get from Malturd and skeletor if you suggested that to them?

    No public servant likes their department closed down.

    Foreign policy is mostly bullshit. Trump knows this. Even Keating knew it.

    Defence, migration and economics. Foreign affairs can take a backseat and a paycut.

  138. Ragu

    The largesse that should be going to them, is going to young male invading mussies, as they see it.

    It’s part of department law. Gypsies, immigrants whatever have a basic right to a camp-site that must have amenities, easy access to schools and medical help.

    It’s a giant fuck-up. The federal government turns a blind eye because it’s a department problem

  139. struth

    Dot, I meant the U.N. itself is their government department.

  140. .

    Economics is easy too.

    Washington consensus. Taxpayer’s bill of rights. No active fiscal policy. Taylor rule or free market money.

    Done.

  141. Wanted to put 1k on Le Pen, but Billhill only allowed $500.
    Prix.

  142. Hydra

    We should be very grateful that multinationals elect to supply us with their goods and serviced and employ our people at all given we are so a) far away and b) against them…

  143. Hydra

    Wanted to put 1k on Le Pen, but Billhill only allowed $500.
    Prix.

    Interesting that BillHill hate free money

  144. egg_

    How much public funding did Edison and Tesla get?

    Precisely; I saw your previous post.
    Ditto Bell, Marconi, et al presumably.

  145. .

    Hydra
    #2362499, posted on April 24, 2017 at 10:11 am
    We should be very grateful that multinationals elect to supply us with their goods and serviced and employ our people at all given we are so a) far away and b) against them…

    A lot of the early FDI into Australia literature (Brash etc) noted the US executives used to like coming for a holiday. That was one of the primary motivators.

    We’d be rooted without good beaches.

  146. Hydra

    We’d be rooted without good beaches.

    Is that a conpetitive or comparative advantagre?

  147. Hydra

    Jesus I cannot type today. Advantage*.

  148. struth

    It’s part of department law. Gypsies, immigrants whatever have a basic right to a camp-site that must have amenities, easy access to schools and medical help.

    It’s a giant fuck-up. The federal government turns a blind eye because it’s a department problem

    Socialists never see government as a problem.
    They see other people as the problem.
    If mussies are taking their share of the largesse as they see it, it’s mussies that are the problem.
    Their heads are ruled by envy and entitlement.
    Working out how it came to be that the mussies came to get what they think is theirs, is a whole brain hurty thing they won’t even attempt.

  149. Top Ender

    Have worked in France twice in the last three years.

    The number of army soldiers guarding facilities and tourist attractions is considerable. Given many are open for extended hours seven days a week the personnel requirements must be enormous.

    Curious that any nation would accept that as “normal” and not be working towards an alternative.

  150. Can someone explain how, if competition should reduce prices, restaurants and cafes in Canberra can defy the basic law of competition and operate with very high prices?

    You live in Canberra? You poor stupid shitless bastard.

  151. struth

    Odds are still 6/1 on sports bet.

    I bet too soon it seems, at 4.33/1
    I thought it may have gone down by now.

  152. Hydra

    Socialists never see government as a problem.
    They see other people as the problem.

    They fail to see that government is made up of those other people that are the problem.

  153. Ragu

    It’s a curious part of French law.

    If a group of people decide to set up camp on a parcel of department land, the department has to, by law, provide that group with the basic human rights ™ that all natural born grenouilles enjoy.

    Functionaries hate it. The Fifth Republic is on its last legs.

  154. egg_

    “The entire inner surface of the reservoir was covered with an impermeable liner to prevent seawater from leaking and damaging the surrounding vegetation.”

    But the ‘Green’ SA Govt will just flood the open desert floor?

  155. Dr Faustus

    On the + side he has promised to cut taxes and spending. What chance the bureaucracy will advise him the country can’t afford to?

    A fair to moderate chance.

    France allocates a third of its GDP to social welfare spending; 20%+ of its workforce is employed directly in the Public Service, and a further 5%+ in nationalised industries. That’s quite an investment in the socialist status quo.

  156. stackja

    Macron, Le Pen in fight to lead France
    John Leicester and Lori Hinnant, Reuters
    23 minutes ago
    Centrist Emmanuel Macron and far-right populist Marine Le Pen have advanced to a runoff in France’s presidential election, remaking the country’s political landscape and setting up a showdown over its participation in the European Union.

    French politicians on the left and right immediately urged voters to block Le Pen’s path to power in the May 7 runoff, saying her virulently nationalist anti-EU and anti-immigration politics will spell disaster for France.

    “Extremism can only bring unhappiness and division to France,” defeated conservative candidate Francois Fillon said.

    The selection of Le Pen and Macron presents voters with the starkest possible choice between two diametrically opposed visions of the EU’s future and France’s place in it.

    It sets up a battle between Macron’s optimistic vision of a tolerant France and a united Europe with open borders against Le Pen’s darker, inward-looking “French-first” platform that calls for closed borders, tougher security, less immigration and dropping the shared euro currency to return to the French franc.

    With Le Pen wanting France to leave the EU and Macron wanting even closer cooperation among the bloc’s 28 nations, Sunday’s outcome means the May 7 runoff will have undertones of a referendum on France’s EU membership.

    The absence in the runoff of candidates from either the mainstream left Socialists or the right-wing Republicans party – the two main political groups that have governed post-war France – also mark a seismic shift in French politics.

    Macron, a 39-year-old investment banker, made the runoff on the back of a grassroots campaign without the support of a major political party.

    With 90 per cent of votes counted, the Interior Ministry said Macron had nearly 24 per cent, giving him a slight cushion over Le Pen’s 22 per cent. Fillon, with just under 20 per cent, was slightly ahead of the far-left’s Jean-Luc Melenchon, who had 19 per cent.

    France is now steaming into unchartered territory, because whoever wins on May 7 cannot count on the backing of France’s political mainstream parties.

    In Paris, protesters angry at Le Pen’s advance – some from anarchist and anti-fascist groups – scuffled with police. Officers fired tear gas to disperse the rowdy crowd.

    Two people were injured and police detained three people as demonstrators burned cars, danced around bonfires and dodged riot police. At a peaceful protest by around 300 people at the Place de la Republique some sang “No Marine and no Macron!” and “Now burn your voting cards.”

  157. egg_

    Can someone explain how, if competition should reduce prices, restaurants and cafes in Canberra can defy the basic law of competition and operate with very high prices?

    Because they can – due to consumer expectation.

  158. Roger

    The Fifth Republic is on its last legs.

    I suspect that is Macron’s hope and plan.

    He is more “European” than French.

  159. Ragu

    Even more stupid, if the gybbos take land on the side of a hill, the department, by law, has to relocate them to somewhere that is less on an incline.

  160. Roger

    Centrist Emmanuel Macron and far-right populist Marine Le Pen…

    By analogy. if we apply Einsteinian relativity to politics, whether a candidate is “centrist” or “far right” depends on the position of the viewer.

  161. stackja

    Roger
    #2362521, posted on April 24, 2017 at 10:27 am
    Centrist Emmanuel Macron and far-right populist Marine Le Pen…

    By analogy. if we apply Einsteinian relativity to politics, whether a candidate is “centrist” or “far right” depends on the position of the viewer.

    MSM is far leftist.

  162. struth

    Centrist Emmanuel Macron and far-right populist Marine Le Pen have advanced to a runoff in France’s presidential election, remaking the country’s political landscape and setting up a showdown over its participation in the European Union.

    Good Lord.
    Just a few years ago, a rabid open borders socialist would be called the extremist (or just purely a traitor)and LePen would have been called a lefty patriot.

    What is “far right” about Le Pen?

    How the f…k can you claim Macron is centrist?

    It’s all in the language they use.
    The problem is, they get away with it.

  163. stackja

    struth
    #2362524, posted on April 24, 2017 at 10:31 am
    Centrist Emmanuel Macron and far-right populist Marine Le Pen have advanced to a runoff in France’s presidential election, remaking the country’s political landscape and setting up a showdown over its participation in the European Union.

    Good Lord.
    Just a few years ago, a rabid open borders socialist would be called the extremist (or just purely a traitor)and LePen would have been called a lefty patriot.

    What is “far right” about Le Pen?

    How the f…k can you claim Macron is centrist?

    It’s all in the language they use.
    The problem is, they get away with it.

    I ignore the MSM lexicon.

  164. Oh come on

    When Macron first came on the scene, he was described as a leftist. Then the MSM got the memo.

  165. notafan

    Macron is a centrist because there were candidates even further to the left of him.

    300 people at the Place de la Republique some sang “No Marine and no Macron!”

    The socialist Benoit Hamon and ‘far left’ Melenchon.

  166. Geriatric Mayfly

    Calli at 9:29
    Ice cream. You can make a quite acceptable icecream without a churn. Condensed milk, whipped cream plus flavouring.

    Cuisinart make a handy little ice-cream maker, which I use all the time. Makes 2L. Same ingredients as yours plus vanilla extract, and any fruit flavouring you fancy. From memory they are about $130. If you are an entertainer you can buy an extra freezing bowl. The bowl incidentally, must be stored in the freezer for some time before making the ice cream.

  167. custard

    Presumably some clever Cats got a handy little return on the French election result overnight.

    #winning

  168. notafan

    The Socialist Party’s official candidate Benoît Hamon came sixth with a paltry 6.2 per cent of the vote, meaning the two major French parties mustered less than 27 per cent of the vote.

    that is 2.2% better that Hollande would have got.

    Furniture saved!


    At the tele

  169. Libby Zee

    France has been under a state of emergency for some time

    France has been dealing with Muslim terrorists for many decades following her involvement in Africa. Muslims are now 10% of the French population so the terrorism there is not likely to go away no matter who becomes the next President.

  170. IT;

    With the youth vote all going to outsider parties, civil war is inevitable in a decade.

    Let us pray that the vineyards of Burgundy and Bordeaux are not harmed.

    Perhaps we could form a militia specifically to protect these vital parts of the worlds economy and culture?

  171. JC

    Is macron socialist? Doesn’t appear to be with his economic policies.

    Macron says he’ll slash the cost of labor and raise take-home pay through reductions in payroll taxes, unify France’s disparate pension systems, encourage labor negotiations at the company level, but wouldn’t raise the retirement age or cut pensions. He announced plans to trim class sizes, give more independence to schools, and subsidize access to more culture for young people.

  172. srr

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  173. stackja

    Latest update : 2017-04-24 [france24.com]
    France’s beleaguered Socialist party suffered a severe and demoralising defeat in the first round of the French presidential election Sunday, a result that could spell disaster for the century-old party, according to analysts.

    The party’s candidate, Benoît Hamon, scored just 6.2 percent of the vote, according to projected results, putting him in fifth place in Sunday’s first round. Not only did he finish far behind the two candidates set to face off in the second round – the far-right Marine Le Pen and centrist Emmanuel Macron – he also lost out to far-left firebrand Jean-Luc Mélenchon and scandal-hit conservative François Fillon.

    “Symbolically, the fact that the Socialist Party (PS) is not in the top three and not even the leading leftist party is a disaster,” said political scientist Remi Lefebvre of the northern city of Lille.

    ‘The left is not dead’

    Hamon’s defeat was a swift reversal of fortunes for the Socialists, who just five years ago rode a wave of popularity that resulted in François Hollande being elected president, bringing the left back to power after three rightwing presidencies in a row.

    The party, founded in 1905, also secured a huge majority of France’s regions and even a majority in the Senate for the first time.
    But Hollande failed to turn around a moribund economy and saw his popularity ratings sink to record lows, leading to a decision not to stand for re-election and passing on the Socialist mantle to thee 49-year-old Hamon.

    Hamon tried to put a brave face on what he admitted was a “historic drubbing” on Sunday.

    “The left is not dead,” he said. “The fight continues… with the parliamentary elections.”

  174. JC

    European markets are up in Asia this morning. Seems like markets like the result pointing to a Macron win.

  175. jupes

    Curious that any nation would accept that as “normal” and not be working towards an alternative.

    This is what almost all western nations are doing to one degree or another. A gradual build up of security over the last decade or so will accelerate until we reach the French level of security.

    Tomorrow is Anzac Day. There will be a huge police presence in every capital city. If the Muslims manage to pull off an attack, next year there will either be soldiers on the street or no Anzac Day.

    Soldiers and bollards. That is the best solution the gutless morons in charge of our security can come up with.

    Too. Stupid. To. Survive.

  176. Oh come on

    It’s all in the language they use.

    Indeed. The editorialising isn’t even subtle. Note that the “optimistic”, “tolerant” and – by implication, light, enlightened, whatever – is more of the status quo, more terrorism, more militarisation of civil society, more assimilation into the EU collective that made this all necessary. And the “darker” – intolerant, pessimistic, benighted – approach is that which pushes back against the forces corroding a distinctly French civil society.

  177. notafan

    Nordic style

    He would reform the labour market to give companies more flexibility to negotiate working hours and pay, but he would also extend the welfare state, allowing entrepreneurs and self-employed to be eligible to unemployment benefits. He would lower companies and households’ tax bill by €20bn.


    Macronics

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    Can someone explain how, if competition should reduce prices, restaurants and cafes in Canberra can defy the basic law of competition and operate with very high prices?

    Here you go.

    ACT economy passes Victoria to become second strongest in Australia

    I wonder how they can be so rich? It must be all that mining and industry the ACT has.

  179. Roger

    Muslims are now 10% of the French population…

    And c. a quarter of all those under 25, a third of whom are estimated to be sympathetic to Islamism.

    Of course, these figures are estimates, since France does not record ethnicity in its census.

    Macron told the truth about one thing: terrorism is not going away any time soon.

  180. notafan

    Socialist Hollande is the one that put the army on the streets of Paris and tried to cancel citizenship of terrorists.

    Macron may want to be a a globalist but he will have to deal with reality.

  181. stackja

    jupes
    #2362539, posted on April 24, 2017 at 10:49 am
    Curious that any nation would accept that as “normal” and not be working towards an alternative.

    This is what almost all western nations are doing to one degree or another. A gradual build up of security over the last decade or so will accelerate until we reach the French level of security.

    Tomorrow is Anzac Day. There will be a huge police presence in every capital city. If the Muslims manage to pull off an attack, next year there will either be soldiers on the street or no Anzac Day.

    Soldiers and bollards. That is the best solution the gutless morons in charge of our security can come up with.

    Too. Stupid. To. Survive.

    Civil Liberties Australia does not want any ‘innocent’ persons detained.
    Evidence of a planned attack are needed.

  182. jupes

    Muslims are now 10% of the French population so the terrorism there is not likely to go away no matter who becomes the next President.

    Yet despite the most obvious example our stupid politicians and public servants are proud of our non-discriminatory immigration policy and continue to bring more Muslims into the country.

  183. Snoopy

    These are not socialist policies. Apparently.

    unify France’s disparate pension systems, but wouldn’t raise the retirement age or cut pensions. He announced plans to trim class sizes, and subsidize access to more culture for young people.

  184. Anne

    Why do Macron and his wife remind me of Malcolm and Lucy?

  185. stackja

    Oh come on
    #2362541, posted on April 24, 2017 at 10:50 am
    It’s all in the language they use.

    Indeed. The editorialising isn’t even subtle. Note that the “optimistic”, “tolerant” and – by implication, light, enlightened, whatever – is more of the status quo, more terrorism, more militarisation of civil society, more assimilation into the EU collective that made this all necessary. And the “darker” – intolerant, pessimistic, benighted – approach is that which pushes back against the forces corroding a distinctly French civil society.

    ‘1984’ provided the words: ‘peace’ ‘love’ ‘truth’ and The Ministries of Love, Peace, Plenty, and Truth.

  186. Bruce of Newcastle

    Is macron socialist?

    Being a minister in Hollande’s Socialist government until recently is a pretty good sign.
    Being a past member of the Socialist Party within the last decade is another excellent clue.
    Just sayin’.

    Btw this is slogan:

    “La France doit être une chance pour tous” (France must be a chance for all)

    What does that sound like to you JC?

    Themes from a presidential campaign

  187. struth

    Macron is a dead set socialist trying to distance himself from one of the most hated French presidents ever.
    A socialist from his party.

    While his lips are moving, he is lying.

    That’s why he is being advertised as centrist by the compliant Main Socialist Media.

  188. Snoopy

    Why do Macron and his wife remind me of Malcolm and Lucy?

    I’m reminded of Young Chip and Anne Summers.

  189. notafan

    Despite self-serving (look at me, I am opposing fascism!) shrieking, there is not a lot of fascism or neo-fascism in contemporary Western politics. Fascists and neo-fascists do, of course, exist but mostly as sad and nasty fringe groups–Golden Dawn in Greece is the most locally successful of the breed, as was the MSI in its early days in Italy (where it got much of its support as an anti-Mafia vote), though nowadays it is post-fascist as a necessary element in mainstreaming itself.


    Why there is so much nonsense spouted about fascism, at thinking outloud blogspot

  190. bystander

    Adam
    #2362508, posted on April 24, 2017 at 10:18 am

    You live in Canberra? You poor stupid shitless bastard.

    Quite true, but when one’s father who lives near Canberra is seriously ill, some poor shitless bastards feel they should do something.

  191. Sydney Boy

    The number of army soldiers guarding facilities and tourist attractions [in France] is considerable. Given many are open for extended hours seven days a week the personnel requirements must be enormous.

    13,000 in Paris and another 5,000 across the rest of France. It is having a severe impact on the French Army’s training.

  192. struth

    Snoopy, all up that has got to be one of the saddest indictments for the mental health of leftism.

    It’s subtle, and there are more extreme examples of course.

    That photo is art, and says so much.
    Pure vacant sickness in that woman’s eyes.
    It’s hard for me to put it all in words.

    Pure misery.

  193. old bloke

    egg_
    #2362513, posted on April 24, 2017 at 10:22 am

    “The entire inner surface of the reservoir was covered with an impermeable liner to prevent seawater from leaking and damaging the surrounding vegetation.”

    But the ‘Green’ SA Govt will just flood the open desert floor?

    The whole idea of pumping seawater into a reservoir is ridiculous. The pumping phase will consume more electricity than the outflow would generate, it’s a net loss proposal.

    They should go the whole hog on stupidity and cut a channel from Port Augusta to Lake Eyre, the tidal movements of that water flowing inland and back out could be harvested for electricity generation. The capital costs would never be recouped of course, but I would like to visit Birdsville by boat.

  194. notafan

    From an economic perspective Macron does not appear to be a socialist, or at least not a true French socialist, this is why the demonstrations in Place de Republique are against both him and Le Pen.

    A socialist is more or less a communist, if Macron is pro business, seeking to free up labour laws, reduce the civil service and decrease taxes on businesses he probably is more a centrist.

    What is it with putting people in boxes?

    Reality will hit Macron in the face, soon enough.

    Le Pen may be anti immigration but economically she is s welfare state socialist.

  195. Nick

    Hamon tried to put a brave face on what he admitted was a “historic drubbing” on Sunday.

    Wait till the ABC breathlessly report Hamon as Hanson out of sheer habit.

  196. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    13,000 in Paris and another 5,000 across the rest of France. It is having a severe impact on the French Army’s training.

    Au contraire.

    All the battles the French military will be fighting in the next 50 years will be on French soil, in French cities against fellow “Frenchmen”. It’s perfect training.

  197. Ragu

    Can someone explain how, if competition should reduce prices, restaurants and cafes in Canberra can defy the basic law of competition and operate with very high prices?

    There are legislated minimums of wages, and now, legislated electrical supply.

  198. Anne

    Welfare State -► Socialist State -► Totalitarian State

    Governments slide in one direction.

    It’s just a matter of time.

  199. Anne

    Governed Societies that is.

  200. duncanm

    It’s called 316 stainless. To suggest that an impeller in constant motion can become clogged up shows a complete lack of understanding of anything.

    sure – the impeller is in constant motion (maybe.. at a stretch). How about the inlets and outlets to said impeller?

  201. egg_

    MEI’s scoping-level capital cost estimates for seawater “turkey-nest” (reservoir) type PHES facilities are within the range of PHES capital costs found in the literature, and could be as low as A$100,000/MWh to A$200,000/MWh

    200 MW x 8 h = 1,600 MWh quoted capacity
    1,600 MWh x A$200,000/MWh = A$320M

  202. Bruce in WA

    It might seem like a good idea if you’re having your flu shot, pneumococcal pneumonia shot and combined tetanus/diphtheria/whooping cough booster shot, to have them all at the same time and get it over and done with.

    It is not a good idea.

    That is all.

  203. duncanm

    Macron: “No, religion is a problem in France.”

    Fixored for correctness.

  204. Ragu

    He would reform the labour market to give companies more flexibility to negotiate working hours and pay,

    It’s a lie. To do that, Macron would have to repudiate his entire socialist platform. The cost of business in France is more to do with EEC regulation than anything.

    Hollande ran on a similar platform, which turned into a whole bunch of bullshit.

  205. Ragu

    sure – the impeller is in constant motion (maybe.. at a stretch). How about the inlets and outlets to said impeller?

    Look, I’ll cop that. I dunno why (knowing the obvious flaws of ferrous metals) we aren’t building proto-type tidal generators from HDPE.

  206. duncanm

    Here you go.

    ACT economy passes Victoria to become second strongest in Australia

    I wonder how they can be so rich? It must be all that mining and industry the ACT has.

    And with all this wealth — why the > 1 GST share ?

  207. incoherent rambler

    With apologies to Peter Sellers.

    The French have a different view of the “lewer“, they believe that if something is made illegal then because it is against the lewer then it is as good as done. End of problem.
    Reality does not intrude. Freedom sacks are effectively illegal but the problem persists.
    Terrorism is against the lewer but Paris is under lockdown.
    The lewer is not working.
    Loss of faith in the once revered lewer has accelerated since gauloises were banned from cafes and bars. The traditions of coffee, gauloises, red wine and being pissed by lunchtime have been under threat for sometime.

    The Euro haters in France are the “coffee, gauloises, red wine and pissed by lunchtime” demographic.
    If Le Pen gets this demographic to be sober enough to vote, she might make it to being Prez.

  208. Hydra

    I am waiting fot Macron’s “lol jk no more immigrants”.

  209. egg_

    Estimated 1/3rd of A$Billion for a p1ssy 200 MW facility?
    I’ll bet the true cost is over one A$Billion.

    Versus a power station?

  210. Mater

    For ANZAC Day:

    An eye witness account by War Correspondent, George Henry Johnston, OBE, transcribed from one of my Grandfathers old books.

    I was just behind the front line at Gona, crouched down in the Kunai grass with a party of 21 infantrymen from South Australia. They had been in action almost constantly for two months. They were thin, haggard, under-nourished, insect-bitten, grimy and physically near the end of their tether. They were fighting on fighting spirit alone. And because that spirit was good, they were still superlative troops. They were talking among themselves about a Japanese weapon pit concealed in the butt of a huge jungle tree at the end of a clearing beyond the Kunai patch. The pit had held them up for two hours. Two of their number had been killed and five wounded when they first pushed through the kunai and ran into a scythe-like sweep of fire from the Japanese.

    Twenty-six-year-old Lieutenant G. T. Hicks was talking quietly to the men. “No use sitting around, I guess. We might as well get stuck into it!” The men grinned. The Lieutenant – who wore no badges of rank and was clad in the same green jungle uniform as the troops – turned to his Sergeant. “How much of that grass do you reckon they’ve cleared away between the post and the edge of the kunai?” “Seventy or 80 yards, I’d say,” replied the Sergeant. A couple of Privates nodded and a Lance-Corporal estimated it as nearer 100. “Well, there are 21 of us now,” said a stocky little Private from Renmark. “Once we get up to the bloody pit it would only take about six of us to dig the little blighters out.” He tossed a hand grenade a few inches into the air and caught it nonchalanty. “You ought to be one of the six, sport,” interjected another Private, lolling on his back with his net covered steel helmet over his eyes and a piece of yellow grass moving up and down rhythmically with the champing of his jaws. “You’re so bloody short, Tojo’ll never be able to get a sight on yer!” A soft ripple of laughter ran around the little group. But even that little burst of laughter was heard.

    From the Japanese post came the pap-pap-pap of a short machine-gun burst. The bullets zipped harmlessly high overhead. The man who was chewing the grass tipped his helmet back and looked in the direction of the enemy post. “Use ‘em up, Tojo,” he muttered. “You ain’t got much longer to go.” The Lieutenant buckled his belt and looked around his men. They grinned and reached for their rifles and Brens and tommy-guns. “According to Shorty here, this job’s going to mean fifteen of us won’t get through,” he said as if it were a grand joke. “Wouldn’t count on that,” said a lanky man, spitting out the well-chewed piece of grass. “He always was an optimist!” Another ripple of laughter. “Well, some come back, they say,”grinned the Lieutenant. He motioned to the men. They took a final look at their weapons, saw the grenades were ready and began to squirm slowly towards the edge of the long grass.

    As he moved past, the lanky man winked at me. “Give us a good write up,” he said. The advance of the 21 men made little movement in the grass, and the occasional shaking of the thick blades might have been only the wind blowing in from the beach. They reached the edge of the kunai. A few yards out in the cleared area were the twisted bodies of their comrades killed a couple of hours before. There was a sudden flash of steel as the Australians sprang to their feet and started running.

    They were yelling like madmen. For a split second there was no sound from the enemy position. Then it started. The wild brrrppp-brrpp of machine-guns firing with fingers tight on the triggers, the crack of Grenades, once, the scream of a man. The Australians were running in a straight line. It’s no use swerving or dodging when you’re charging into machine-gun fire. Their bayonets were at high port. Men were falling. One threw up his hands, stopped dead and stumbled to one side. Another fell as he was running, rolling over and over like a rabbit hit on the run. Another was spun around like a top before he crumpled up and slid to the ground.

    The little man who had predicted that six would get through had almost reached the Japanese pit when he fell. He went over backwards as if somebody had delivered a terrific uppercut. He didn’t live to find out, but his estimate was wrong. Nine of the Australians got through. They wiped out the post, killing every one of the 19 Japanese inside. That is the meaning of morale. I saw that happen.

  211. duncanm

    Ragu – don’t feel bad. I just followed a link above to the Okinawa Yanbaru Seawater Pumped Storage Power Station, and it turns out they used plastic tubing .. so I guess that problem can be addressed.

    Still — its a fuckin’ stupid idea to pump large volumes of what is essential a poison to most land-based things, inland.

    SA should go nuclear and become Australia’s energy and refining power-house.

  212. Oh come on

    Sarkozy went into the French Presidency with Trump-like expectations that he would obliterate the ridiculously generous civil service pension and welfare scheme. The man was supposedly a political Terminator. His opponents would melt away from the sheer force of his implacable will.

    He got absolutely bloody nowhere. Sarkozy was tough but you’d have to be messianic to reform the French labour and benefits system.

    Macron isn’t a patch on Sarkozy and nor does he have the party infrastructure in the legislature to change a damn thing. No chance whatsoever. Macron will be plumbing Hollande depths of unpopularity soon enough.

  213. H B Bear

    The French just love socialism, even of it means sharing it with rogue truck drivers.

    They obviously haven’t made the connection yet.

  214. Roger

    Macron isn’t a patch on Sarkozy and nor does he have the party infrastructure in the legislature to change a damn thing. No chance whatsoever. Macron will be plumbing Hollande depths of unpopularity soon enough.

    My thoughts exactly.

  215. FYI:

    Islam’s Effect On Society At 10%-19%
    When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
    Guyana — Muslim 10%
    Bulgaria — Muslim 10%
    Central Africa — Muslim 15%
    India — Muslim 14.6%
    Israel — Muslim 16%
    Kenya — Muslim 10%
    Russia — Muslim 15%

    You may now add France.

  216. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Indeed. The editorialising isn’t even subtle.

    Viva the internet. The only hope.

  217. Here – Have the lot.
    This was so predictable, that the results now constitute evidence of an Act of War against the citizens of the West by their leaders.

    Islam’s Effect On Society At 2%-5%
    At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:
    Germany — Muslim 3.7% (now 5.4% since this report was made)
    United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7% (now 3.3% since this report was made)
    Spain — Muslim 4%
    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
    Islam’s Effect On Society At 5%-9%
    From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
    France — Muslim 8%
    Philippines — Muslim 5%
    Sweden — Muslim 5%
    Australia — Muslim 6%
    Belgium — Muslim 6%
    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
    Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
    Islam’s Effect On Society At 10%-19%
    When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
    Guyana — Muslim 10%
    Bulgaria — Muslim 10%
    Central Africa — Muslim 15%
    India — Muslim 14.6%
    Israel — Muslim 16%
    Kenya — Muslim 10%
    Russia — Muslim 15%

  218. Anne

    “The French just love socialism, even of it means sharing it with rogue truck drivers.

    They obviously haven’t made the connection yet.”

    The connection they haven’t made is that France survives on Tourism.

    For every increase in Islamisation there is a corresponding decrease in Frenchness.

    I’ll never go back there.

  219. Fisky

    Sarkozy went into the French Presidency with Trump-like expectations that he would obliterate the ridiculously generous civil service pension and welfare scheme. The man was supposedly a political Terminator. His opponents would melt away from the sheer force of his implacable will.

    He got absolutely bloody nowhere. Sarkozy was tough but you’d have to be messianic to reform the French labour and benefits system.

    Macron isn’t a patch on Sarkozy and nor does he have the party infrastructure in the legislature to change a damn thing. No chance whatsoever. Macron will be plumbing Hollande depths of unpopularity soon enough.

    Macron’s policy “reforms” will be stopped dead when the Left take to the streets. They have no prospect at all of getting through.

  220. Fisky

    The main difference between Macron and Le Pen is their positions on immigration and the Euro. Nothing they do on any other issues will have any material effect, because it is actually not possible to abolish socialism in France. Won’t happen. All you can hope to do is stop importing more welfare clients.

  221. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    There’s a link on Steve’s French Election thread to some ‘assimilating’ Muslims having a practice run.

    We are all familiar with the car trashing and firing, but I hadn’t seen the truly contemptuous treatment of large lit-up Christmas trees in public areas before. No wonder the French are outraged.
    I was. These people hate Christianity in this most Catholic of countries.

    Where are you Charles Martel? Is your name now Le Pen?

  222. Des Deskperson

    “Can someone explain how, if competition should reduce prices, restaurants and cafes in Canberra can defy the basic law of competition and operate with very high prices?”

    Do they?? I’ve seen no evidence that prices, even on somewhere like Lonsdale St, are any worse that those in inner Sydney or Melbourne, while out here in the sticks – Weston Creek – you can still get an excellent cup of coffee for $3.70, and even in posh Yarralumla you can get a fill breakfast for $10.

    As for the ACT economy more broadly, the assessment in the article quoted above:

    “Economic momentum is on its side with firmer population growth, low unemployment and solid residential and engineering work,”

    well, it’s largely if not entirely the product of government projects such as ‘light rail’ and murky relationships with developers. There are still plenty of for rent signs in commercial premises all over the Territory and commercial and business properties are 18% unoccupied.

    None of this is sustainable in the long run. Not only are government rates and charges soon to skyrocket, but the whole shebang is, of course, heavily underwritten by the rest of Australia, both directly through Federal grants (43% of the ACT Government’s revenue) and indirectly though APS salaries, benefits and contracts.

  223. notafan

    I was going to say that socialist Hollande tried to reform labour laws and all he got was riots.

    Not only did they reject the end of the 35 hour week they demanded it be reduced to 32 hours.

    The damage and destruction I saw in Place de Republique at the end of March 2016 would have Australians reeling for months but the French barely bat an eyelid.

    And this just a few hundred metres from Bataclan.

    There is a militarized segment of the community but it is not the far right.

  224. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    New Fred, guys. Needs more company, only 4 so far.

  225. Combine Dave

    FYI:

    Islam’s Effect On Society At 10%-19%
    When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
    Guyana — Muslim 10%
    Bulgaria — Muslim 10%
    Central Africa — Muslim 15%
    India — Muslim 14.6%
    Israel — Muslim 16%
    Kenya — Muslim 10%
    Russia — Muslim 15%

    You may now add France.

    Too soon to add Germany after Merkel’s millions?

  226. Oh come on

    France will have to collapse before it can change.
    And the Muslim problem may have become so acute that it will be toxic to its neighbours (even with their own Muslim problems) and the failed French state will be occupied by Germany.

  227. Roger

    No wonder the French are outraged.

    Are they?

    Nearly 80% voted for someone other than Le Pen, with a candidate who says there is no distinctive French culture now the favourite to win.

    We’ll see what the second round brings.

  228. Snoopy

    Wish to do something practical about FGM? I received this email from a past workmate. I can vouch that this appeal is genuine. I have donated $100.

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    I am writing to you because I need your help to share the campaign if you are comfortable doing so. Perhaps to your friends through email or through your links on social media. Every “send” helps spread the word. You are also most welcome to donate – and of course, I appreciate there are many, many demands on your time, requests for help and donations – and respect your decision and views.

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  229. egg_

    seawater “turkey-nest” (reservoir)

    The earth-embankment dam is lined with ethylene-propylene-diene monomer (EPDM) rubber. Underneath the rubber lining is a 50 cm-thick gravel drainage layer, cushioned with polyester fabric to protect against sharp edges. There is no concrete or asphalt lining. This rubber lining has successfully withstood violent tropical storms and typhoons.

  230. bystander

    Des Deskperson
    #2362617, posted on April 24, 2017 at 12:09 pm
    Do they?? I’ve seen no evidence that prices, even on somewhere like Lonsdale St, are any worse that those in inner Sydney or Melbourne

    Des, I moved down from Pyrmont a short while ago and Pyrmont is not a cheap area for restaurant etc. The prices at many of restaurants around Civic, Manuka, Deakin and Kingston should make the owners blush. The restaurants are not multiple star level and nor am I opposed to paying these prices but I think they are significantly above those in many areas close to Sydney city despite the heavy competition in the number of outlets. My comment is directed at the apparent lack of competitive pricing.

    I would not dispute that there are less expensive places as there are in all cities.

  231. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Australia — Muslim 6%

    Who did these stats? The ABS?

  232. Bruce of Newcastle

    Look, I’ll cop that. I dunno why (knowing the obvious flaws of ferrous metals) we aren’t building proto-type tidal generators from HDPE.

    Because the ocean will break them in the first storm.
    The problem with wave and tidal generation is you have to have corrosion resistance and strength to take the conditions. You can’t do both and have a cheap enough unit.

    Incidentally ships don’t have 316 SS propellers, they have bronze ones to stop greeblies growing on them. Bronze has copper in it, which crustaceans and algae don’t like – which is why copper bottoming was such an advance.

  233. Ragu

    Bruce, HDPE is strong as fuck.

  234. H B Bear

    Ha ha – good luck getting anyone to click on an Anne Summers hyperlink. You must think we are complete maroons here.

  235. Boambee John

    Rambler at 1146

    The same attitude to the “law” seems to apply here, with the same delusion that once something is made illegal, it stops.

    Many of the same people seem to campaign for reduced sentences and rehabilitation for people who commit supposedly non existent crimes.

  236. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bruce, HDPE is strong as fuck.

    I’ve been using it for decades. Ditto polyprop, PVC, PDFE and PTFE. Also almost every grade of stainless up to Inconel 630 and Hastelloy C2000, lots of titanium, and even zirconium. I’ve busted plenty of HDPE stuff, it lasts OK for experimental work but not in an environment of shock and abrasion. I’ve also done lots of aqueous chloride chemistry.

    The bashing and mashing by waves on stuff in the ocean is lots. One reason why off shore wind is three times the cost of onshore. No one has built a wave generator that doesn’t fall to bits in a year or two from sheer mechanical pounding. If you build it so it doesn’t fall to bits it is too expensive for electricity generation compared to the yield.

  237. Bruce in WA

    Take back what I said about the price of breakfast here earlier.

    Had breakfast at Hillarys Marina this morning:

    scrambled eggs, bacon (2 pieces — not full rashers), grilled tomato and toast = $22. Plus the 15% penalty ‘cos public holiday.

    So, brekky for one plus a black coffee @ $4.50 = $29.80

    Wife poached eggs, tomato, toast (no bacon), plus 15% plus coffee = $22.25

    Brekky for two then @ $52.05

    Bargain!

  238. Bruce in WA

    Retards to the left of me
    Morons to the right
    Here I am
    Stuck in the middle with you …

    ‘Stop the war’ Anzac heckler arrested at Martin Place dawn service

    A self-styled “revolutionary warrior number one” who believes cannabis cures cancer was arrested after trying to disrupt the Anzac dawn service at the Cenotaph in Sydney’s Martin Place.

    During a minute’s silence following the last post, those gathered at the service heard a man shout a number of anti-war slogan from the George Street end of Martin Place, chanting “stop the war, stop the war” during the commemorative silence.

    Attention-seeking “General” Joseph Mekhael, 32, posted a video of his disrespectful performance on Facebook along with a photograph of himself with his thumb up after he was released on conditional bail by Surry Hills police.

    But Mekhael, who also goes by the name “Smokin’ Joe” and claims to be a DJ, was mostly drowned out by the trumpeter who brought the one minute silence to an end and no-one took the blind bit of notice about him as his silly protest fell on deaf ears.

    “I just got out of jail after disrupting the celebration of war that is #anzacday and being assaulted by some of Sydney’s weakest pencil-necked police puppets!” the Merrylands “revolutionary” posted on his Facebook page.

    “We must have the courage to stand up against those who are enslaving the human race!”

    He was arrested at about 5.21am and charged with behaving in an offensive manner in a public place and resisting an officer in the execution of duty. He claims on his Facebook page to have been “jailed” but he was quickly granted conditional bail to appear at Downing Centre Local Court on May 18.

    “The courageous will never be silent as long as these wars continue,” he shouted during the two minutes’ silence.

    “Senseless violence. Stop the wars. Bring peace to the world.”

    He claimed to be on day 226 of Operation Bring Down the Government and said his “Save The World Army” has 714 “certified revolutionary warriors from all over the world.

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