Poor Donald Trump

The latest Trump comment

No politician in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly

Really? What about Julius Caesar? Or Abraham Lincoln, Alexander Hamilton, James Garfield, William McKinley, Jack Kennedy? Or Anton Cermak, Huey Long, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Mahatma Gandhi and numerous other politicians in the US and elsewhere who have been assassinated or critically injured.

What about John McCain subject to horrendous torture? What about the Roman Emperor Valerian who was skinned alive by the Persians and forced to drink molten gold?

Anyhow you get the point. Trump’s claim is ridiculous and childish. As is his presidency.

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134 Responses to Poor Donald Trump

  1. Herodotus

    Trump’s presidency and its quality remain to be seen, but so far the ridiculousness and childishness is all down to the poor quality and viciousness of the American left and the corrupt media. No problems with the criminal activities of their preferred rulers.

  2. What about John McCain subject to horrendous torture?

    I see, so he was a politician when this happened, was he? News to me.

  3. Baldrick

    It’d be helpful to put the quote in context instead of singling out one sentence:

    “Look at the way I’ve been treated lately, especially by the media,” the US President told cadets graduating from the US Coast Guard Academy in New London, Connecticut.
    “No politician in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly. You can’t let them get you down.
    Never ever, ever give up.
    Over the course of your life, you will find that things are not always fair. You will find that things happen to you that you do not deserve and that are not always warranted, but you have to put your head down and fight, fight, fight.”

  4. Mother Lode

    Or…or…Tharg, chief of the This Side Of River tribe who, after introducing vital reforms such as free bits of Mammoth for the old and frail, and a new shade of ochre for painting bison on cave walls, was stabbed in the back by Zorg.

    Literally.

    Honestly, Lucy, this poring over throw away phrases with such dialectical rigour is unbecoming, and predisposes people to your less puerile posts less favourably.

    Should we make it a game that people pore over everything you type with the same energy and declare you an idiot each time you use less than legal precision?

  5. Bruce

    Lucius, just let it go. He won, get over it.

  6. candy

    Trump’s claim is ridiculous and childish. As is his presidency.

    Must disagree. He is treated grossly unfairly and the media says nasty things about his wife, too. He is doing the best job he can, and that’s the important thing in anyone’s life.
    Journalists, most of them of Left, are not kind people, to my mind. If half the things printed about D. Trump were printed about journalists themselves in the main media, they would be in the courts or shrivelling up and dying in a mental ward. I’m afraid left leaning journalists are for some inexplicable reason are prone to personal abuse and untruths.

    Look what his happening to Cardinal Pell right now. They want him dead. And he never raped boys, but other priests did, but it’s Pell that want dead.

  7. Mother Lode

    I dunno, Balders, Julius Caesar copped a fair bit of flack from talk-back scribes for that business with Cleopatra.

  8. Baldrick

    The relevant section of the speech (1:26 video)

  9. terry andrews

    pedantic aren’t you. no prez has been so ruthlessly and relentlessly attacked in the press in the last 100 yrs. if he gets shot will that satisfy you?

  10. Noodles Romanoff

    This deserves a thread? That you didn’t understand his reference was in relation to his treatment by the msm is possibly due to your own bias.

  11. Aussiepundit

    Trump’s own White House is filled with his enemies.

  12. As the comment was in regards to his treatment by the modern media – as you’re perfectly aware, Lucius, don’t pretend you’re not – it seems reasonable to me.

    After all, I wasn’t aware they had the New York Times in ancient Rome.

  13. Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus

    The reason why the media and just about everyone else criticises Trump is because he is an idiot and unfit for office. It’s that simple. If he acted reasonably and achieved things the media would go quiet.

  14. Razor

    Your statements are subbecoming LQC. About the role of the left press you insult intelligence.

  15. Bear Necessities

    Tax reform should of been the first cab off the rank with legislation. Then he could point to this achievement and have the momentum to look into Health Insurance.

    Trump’s problem is that he is always, and always will, be drawn into the weeds of controversy whenever he is attacked. He escalates when we should just ignore.

  16. Baldrick

    According to Leftards, Trump’s comments are bad, but when Illary blamed misogyny, the FBI and Russian hackers for her problems, they all cheered.

    Go figure.

  17. Diogenes

    Trump is facing an unrelenting barrage designed to destroy his reputation.

    At work people were carrying about Trump doing ‘this’, sorry that was introduced under Obama, or ‘that’ , again Obama, or the ‘other’ – no Obama again

  18. “The reason why the media and just about everyone else criticises Trump is because he is an idiot and unfit for office. It’s that simple.”

    Like when the media claimed – on the say-so of an anonymous friend of a friend of a friend – that Trump had prostitutes piss all over him in Obama’s bed in Moscow?

  19. Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus

    Trump is facing an unrelenting barrage designed to destroy his reputation

    No, Trump is destroying his own reputation by his behaviour.

  20. Mother Lode

    So, LQC, he is a idiot because the MSM says so, and when he says the MSM is being unfair, we can assume it is idiocy because…the MSM says so.

    well, you’ve convinced me.

  21. cui bono

    Well skewered Baldrick. Context is everything, yet obviously beyond Lucius and the lefty media who are now left spluttering insults.

  22. Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus

    As the comment was in regards to his treatment by the modern media – as you’re perfectly aware, Lucius, don’t pretend you’re not – it seems reasonable to me.

    ie: never take anything Trump says seriously. He is incapable of precision in language. And we should just forgive him for that.

    Well I don’t. I expect the president of the united states to be articulate. Most have been.

  23. Nov

    Leaving the main blog piece for now, your comment here LQC is nothing but whining leftist drivel. Even if he was, as you say, “an idiot”, then that is entirely irrelevant as to whether or not he was badly treated and to what extent. It is exactly the sort of non-argument, goal-post shifting deflection that is standard fare for lefty facebook comments. That you would even think your comment was in any way reasonable should be embarrassing to you. But it’s not. Because you’re a leftist snob.

  24. Mother Lode

    We are talking about the same press that still believes Obama and his Imperium was a golden age, and his legislative legacy a blueprint for universal harmony, aren’t we?

  25. calli

    If he acted reasonably and achieved things the media would go quiet.

    Yeah, Trump. Behave yourself and do stuff or we’ll bark at you.

  26. Razor

    To explain:
    You may be aware that there are public reports that the young man Rich who worked for the DNC was the leaker of 44000 emails of Podesta etal – not the Russians. This man was murdered just around the wikileaks release of these emails. The reports by private investigator and an ex FBI investigator was made public by Fox last Tuesday US time. Have you seen any reference to it in the Wapo or the NYT – shining examples of unbiased reporting.
    The Two furores generated by these outlets was to
    1. Allow them not to refer to this unsaluatory news for them because it puts a complete lie to the whole Ruski thing and also indicates so extreme criminality behind the Democrats/Clintons.
    2. Say to the reading public (mainly TheirABC reporters here) Don’t look at this hand (Democrat problems) look at this hand (Trump is an Idiot and persons like LQC write about Him in these terms to your readership -NOT). There is much more to be read about the young man Rich if you look past your MSM idols.
    You see you reveal what a simple approach you take – very subbecoming.
    (yes you managed to get a Troll response today)

  27. candy

    If he acted reasonably and achieved things the media would go quiet.

    The fact the media made fun of his wife, always looking for something to be nasty about, with stories circulating she was an escort/prostitute from day 1 is a big indication that the media would hate him no matter what. As well the media were looking for reasons for impeachment from the start.

    From day 1 this started. There was never to be a fair go for this president.

  28. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’ll just put this here shall I?

    Delingpole: Trump Derangement Syndrome Has Jumped the Shark

    As for me I’ve never seen such collective hysteria in all my time on this planet.
    Totally weird.

  29. Nov

    lol. And your second comment is just imbecilic. Anyone with a reading comprehension level beyond fifth grade can establish what he meant in context. My six-year-old son would be quite capable of establishing the extremely minimal nuance. That you don’t understand – willfully – what was meant does not mean you want him to be articulate, it means you’re requiring him to curb hus speach to that of fifth-grade standards. I shudder to think what your demands, devolved from petty, childish tantrum would mean to the works of any great writer – or even just good British standard comedy.
    What you ask is not better articulation, it is messaging for children incapable of comprehension beyond a simple sentenc.

  30. stackja

    Trump hysterics should calm down. US politics watcher Roger Kimball may be right when he points out the US media may be hurting itself more than they’re hurting Trump.

  31. Aussiepundit

    US politics watcher Roger Kimball may be right when he points out the US media may be hurting itself more than they’re hurting Trump.

    No, they’re hurting Trump more.

  32. stackja

    And Trump caused this?

    Key dates in the Chelsea Manning case
    Associated Press
    12 minutes ago
    Aug. 21: Manning is sentenced to 35 years in prison. The next day she announces she is transgender, wanting to be known as Chelsea.

  33. Zyconoclast

    Trump has hired two people that support him personally but probably have nothing but contempt for the plebs who voted for him.

    His daughter and her husband.

  34. Crossie

    John McCain has frittered away any respect people had for him by malicious attacks on his own party.

  35. Tom

    Trump’s presidency and its quality remain to be seen, but so far the ridiculousness and childishness is all down to the poor quality and viciousness of the American left and the corrupt media. No problems with the criminal activities of their preferred rulers.

    Precisely, Herodotus.

    But you forgot the global dementia of the left, like our fake Roman troll, who is like a three-year-old toddler throwing an endless tantrum, but evidently has compromising photos of the Doomlord, which enables him keep posting this emotive kiddie shit day after day, week after week, month after month.

  36. stackja

    Aussiepundit
    #2382684, posted on May 18, 2017 at 8:04 am
    US politics watcher Roger Kimball may be right when he points out the US media may be hurting itself more than they’re hurting Trump.

    No, they’re hurting Trump more.

    Trump hurt only if voters are gullible. Time will tell.

  37. Bruce of Newcastle

    As ZH likes to say, posted without comment…

    Artist’s Impression Of The Mainstream Media This Week

  38. The reason why the media and just about everyone else criticises Trump is because he is an idiot and unfit for office. It’s that simple. If he acted reasonably and achieved things the media would go quiet.

    It’s that simple eh? Simple statements for simple minds.

    As far as I’m concerned the media is behaving exactly as I expected it to – completely irrational with ever increasing levels of hysteria. This is because Trump is exposing the media’s overriding bias and lack of any so-called journalistic integrity. The two options available for the media were to self-reflect and then announce that they could do better and then act on their intentions.

    Or they could flounce around screaming to the heavens and having little tantys, like a wife caught cheating by her husband which is how Roissy has so beautifully put it:

    Confront a woman with incontrovertible evidence of her infidelity and she’ll be driven to hysterics, first denying the charge, then accusing you of distrusting her, then bashing you for being a horrible partner, then twisting your words to mean the opposite of what you mean to make herself look like the victim, then finally spitefully blaming you for pushing her into the arms of another man.

    The Gaystream Media is that cornered whore, presented with solid evidence of their journalistic malpractice and zero integrity shilling for the globohomo agenda, who, knowing its credibility is shot, lashes out with hysterical fury and film reels of psychological projection. The womanish hysteria is what a busted cheating whore resorts to when the jig is up. Now all that’s left is for Trump and his supporters to hold their ground, stay firm, and show the door to the frazzled media.

    That’s where you’re at, Lucius – the hysterical cheating woman who needs to up the emotional ante to nuclear levels in the hope that will get her out of the shit. You’re not making any sense, you’re not presenting any coherent arguments, all you want to do is to believe and it will be so despite all real world evidence to the contrary.

    Why you’re allowed to post threads here is beyond me but it does provide good entertainment factor to have such a low intelligence imbecile in our midst.

  39. A Lurker

    If he acted reasonably and achieved things the media would go quiet.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah…takes a breath…hahahahahahahahahahah!
    Oh, Roman, you are such a kidder.
    Really, you should do stand-up comedy.

  40. Bruce of Newcastle

    And another…

    Presumed Guilty?

    Cartoonists get it.

  41. PeterF

    The Washington elite,Dems and Republicans,refuse to share power with an outsider. They want all the goodies to themselves. The Republicans want him removed so one of the clique will be installed in his place,Pence is a career politician. If Trump is impeached and kicked out of office, all hell will break loose.

  42. calli

    Confront a woman with incontrovertible evidence of her infidelity and she’ll be driven to hysterics, first denying the charge, then accusing you of distrusting her, then bashing you for being a horrible partner, then twisting your words to mean the opposite of what you mean to make herself look like the victim, then finally spitefully blaming you for pushing her into the arms of another man.

    Just a small point. Swap “hysterics” for “truculence” and reverse the genders and you have the same result. When it comes to cheating, there’s very little difference between men and women.

    LCQ appears to be on the well worn path of obsession. It blinds its sufferers to reality.

  43. A Lurker

    As for me I’ve never seen such collective hysteria in all my time on this planet.
    Totally weird.

    It’s the madness of crowds, Bruce – and hysteria is a good name for it. Even males, who physically have no uterus, have contracted this ancient disease.

    In ancient Greek times women were not viewed in the same way as men. Women had very few rights. They were still under the control of men that held political office, and participating in the city-state or polis was prohibited. One of the possible reasons for this exclusion was due to their biology. Their constant mood swings and erratic behavior, which was referred to as “hysteria“, made them incontinent and unable to make rational decisions. The concept of “hysteria” is described in Hippocratic Corpus. The “Wandering Uterus” was another familiar term that went hand in hand with “Hysteria” . It was an ancient Greek belief that “a wandering uterus” needed to be confined and controlled caused women’s health problems.

    Methinks the Roman has mislaid his uterus, and should instead take a Bex and have a good lie down.

  44. calli

    Oh, Roman, you are such a kidder.
    Really, you should do stand-up comedy.

    Something Happened on the Way to the Forum? 😀

  45. Rabz

    Speaking of politicians being treated appallingly, I can’t believe no one has mentioned poor ol’ Jules Gillard, who is copping yet another pasting today in the Oz in respect of the NDIS.

    Oh da misgyneeeeee …

  46. A Lurker

    Something Happened on the Way to the Forum?

    Begs a musical interlude. 🙂

  47. Chris M

    Who is this crank Lucius?

    In the context of media he very clearly meant it Trump is entirely correct. Even a dope could agree on this. Of all thing things you might pick on Trump for this has to be about the most sub-dopey and lamest.

    The keys to posting at Catallaxy have been given to kooks now?

  48. JB5

    Dickhead.

    Everyone else has already made the case.

  49. Alexi the Conservative Russian

    Yes Obama was articulate but look at what he did. All talk and no action except Obamacare and what a disaster that is. So reminiscent of Rudd/Gillard.

    Also you are assuming Cat’s are unintelligent. We both know what Trump is referring to which has nothing to do with physical injury, murder et al. He is talking about the “cyclopic” press. So please don’t insult the readership.

  50. Fulcrum

    I don’t think any of us have witnessed such a ruthless and relentless series of political attacks on a democratic leader of a developed country.
    I fear for democracy as we, the people, are woefully prepared for the excesses of totalitarian states.

  51. stackja

    Ex-FBI boss to lead Trump-Russia probe
    Associated Press
    19 minutes ago
    The Justice Department has appointed former FBI director Robert Mueller as a special counsel to oversee a federal investigation into potential co-ordination between Russia and the Trump campaign during the 2016 presidential election.

  52. Megan

    If he acted reasonably and achieved things the media would go quiet.

    I’ll bet you believe in the tooth fairy as well.

  53. Richard Fleay

    Is Catallaxy Going the full NEOCON?

  54. iampeter

    What about the Roman Emperor Valerian who was skinned alive by the Persians and forced to drink molten gold?

    Now that’s a Saturday night!

    Persons. Say what you want about them, but they know how to party.

  55. iampeter

    *Persians?

    Whatever.

  56. Oh come on

    Rather than respond to the monotonous banality of Lucy’s Trump bashing, can I instead lament the degeneration of LQC, who I suspect is an iteration of a former contributor. IIRC, before Trump came along, Lucy had several intelligent, timely and interesting things to say about a range of matters. And if Lucy is indeed the retired former contributor that I suspect he is, well, that individual was also a respected and insightful contributor.

    It is a pity to see Lucy conduct himself in this manner, choosing to define himself as a shameless troll.

  57. Dianeh

    My guess is that most of the people who voted for Trump are no longer taking notice of the allegations being made. After so many allegations , all seeming to have no substance, the deplorables will at some point automatically disbelieve any allegations made by the media. I suspect we may be there already or not far away.

    I know I roll my eyes each time a new Trump allegation comes out. Ho hum is the attitude. Get back to me when you have some proof. And yet, when Obama had suspect acts, like Bengazi, or the guns to Mexican criminals debacle, or the IRs attacking political opponents etc, it is just silence.

    I am also wondering why, when the FBI has been so busy looking for Russian connections to Trump and his associates, that they didn’t stumble upon what Happened to the Rich guy (from a prior post) or make a public statement that he was the leaker. Surely as the Russians were blamed for the DNC hack, apparently in support of Trump, then the source of that leak should be front page news, as should be the fate of the leaker.

  58. iampeter

    Trump’s presidency and its quality remain to be seen, but so far the ridiculousness and childishness is all down to the poor quality and viciousness of the American left and the corrupt media.

    I know what you’re saying but is the media, Democrats or the left in general doing anything “wrong” by fighting what they believe in tooth and nail?

    Who stopped Conservatives from destroying Comey or Obama or Lerner or Lynch over any number of the scandals that would’ve annihilated a Republican President. Does even remember the frankly trivial stuff Nixon was impeached over in comparison?

    The left fights for their ideas, Conservatives don’t seem to have any ideas, they are one or two issues voters who care about throwing out immigrants and banning SSM/abortion. Whether you agree with them or not, a coherent political ideology this does not make.

    Democrats and the left care and fight while Conservatives don’t and don’t and then blame everyone for been meanies.

  59. Notafan

    Montesque level trolling.

    Trump is exactly how he was when America voted him in to office.

    You pick out a sentence here and there and go for the jugular.

    Just like the msm here and Abbott.

    Subtle as a sledgehammer.

  60. Tailgunner

    . If he acted reasonably and achieved things the media would go quiet.

    Lol!!
    What kind of “things” are you referring to,Lucy?

  61. Rohan

    MLK was a politician? Wow, that’s a revelation. And here I was thinking he was a Baptist minister who became one of the great civil rights activists of all time.

    Funny thing is I can’t find reference to MLK being a sitting politician, or standing for election for any party or as an independent, at any level of government anywhere. All those history books, and websites, and documentaries must have been fake news then. I’m glad we cleared that up.

  62. I know what you’re saying but is the media, Democrats or the left in general doing anything “wrong” by fighting what they believe in tooth and nail?

    I love how you lump the media in with the Dems and the left. Says it all really.

    Since when were the media supposed to believe in anything? They’re just supposed to do a job, report the facts.

  63. Peter

    Oh come on! Yes, Trump is given to hyperbole but don’t you fall for the same thing. The truth he IS facing a concerted effort to damage and delegitimize him based on little more than that he is Donald Trump.
    OK, how he verbalizes his concern over this is typically Trumpian, but this is just how Trump is. People voted for him anyhow and will no doubt continue to vote for him specifically because he does not speak in the dishonest and misleading, disingenuous circumlocutions normally used by mainstream politicians.
    I say – Donald, keep it up. The media and the deep state is trying to serve you a shit sandwich. Throw it back in their faces as we all know why they are doing it – their attitude is “This is our town and our government and no damned outsider is going to take it away from us especially when he was put there by red necks from flyover country”. I say screw the the insiders.

  64. If I was this blog editor, I would tell Lucius to calm down. We get that he does not admire DJT. He makes this point over again. We don’t actually need him to keep spouting on about it, ad nauseum. Think of another topic to write about for a change.

  65. Lucy, welcome to the scroll-by list of “contributors”.

  66. Razor

    Just to give further info the young democrat worker was:
    Rich Seth
    He was killed while walking home around 4 in the morning. The Police report it as a botched Robbery. However none of his valuables was taken. A local police person says that the police dept were told to stand down on the case (? the mayor) and the FBI are releasing nothing to the public.
    The fact that the FBI are involved indicates that it is actually seen to be more than a state crime.
    Apparently Assange has said that Rich was the DNC Podesta leaker – but I cannot find the source for this.

    There is a good analysis that the NYT and Wapo work as a tag team in putting out unproveable accusations by quoting unnamed sources. I wonder if they have totally killed any trust by Trump supporters by these actions. I would suggest LQC that Trump has his tactics already in hand to break the MSM anti-Trump echo chamber. One very good tactic he has employed all through the campaign and his Presidency is the have his opponents underestimate him – call him an idiot, buffoon, fool.
    You fell for it LQC. I ask, who is the idiot, buffoon, fool LQC?

  67. calli

    If I was this blog editor, I would tell Lucius to calm down.

    David, for pity’s sake warn him not to look at his watch too. We all know what happens next.

  68. Tom

    Why The Gaystream Media Has Descended Into Womanish Hysterics

    Great link, Adam at 8.14am. Can you tell me the name of the blogger you refer to only as “Roissy”?

  69. redress

    There is a good analysis that the NYT and Wapo work as a tag team in putting out unproveable accusations by quoting unnamed sources.

    Very good analysis here:
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/05/16/new-york-times-president-trump-asked-comey-to-end-investigation/

    Always remember the basic rule that has been proven accurate 100% of the time:
    When the CIA wants to leak a damaging story they coordinate with the Washington Post and ABC. (and vice-versa).
    When the State Dept. or FBI/DOJ wants to leak a damaging story they coordinate with CNN and the New York Times. (and vice-versa)
    This consistent pattern has NEVER been broken.

  70. struth

    Sad.
    If I said I hate war and was Donald Trump, luscious Quisling Cunninilingus would read it as “I hate”.

    TDS does that to people. Delusional , but due to the hatred in their hearts , unable to conceal it.

    F-

  71. Tom,

    That is Roissy’s blog that I linked to. He is a legend in the manosphere but his name is not for public knowledge.

  72. Razor

    Little bit more for you LQC
    Real News The Media Refuses To Cover: Seth Rich’s WikiLeaks Connection
    May 16, 2017 by CH
    I suppose it’s not surprising that the Fake News Establishment wouldn’t bother to report on Real News possibly implicating DNC operatives in the still-unsolved murder of former staffer Seth Rich, but here we are: Another day, another Fake Hysteria over MUH RUSSIA while very important news about Rich’s connection with WikiLeaks goes totally ignored by the propaganda arms of the gay mulatto and thecunt regimes.

    Refresher: those propaganda arms are CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, NYTimes, WashPost, AP, Reuters, Yahoo, MSN, and a bunch of others I can’t recall atm (I mean who can blame me? they all sound like the same shit tier media whores).

    The latest development in the case is that Seth Rich had sent 44,000 emails from Jan 2015 to May 2016 to a WikiLeaks contact. In response, the Rich “family” is denying the allegation, but through a PR flak tied to the DNC.

    At the very least, this sort of information demands at least a cursory investigative response from the gaystream media, but it won’t get even that. Phorce One Phaggots at NPR will instead snark something about the “debunked” Seth Rich rumors without providing any reporting of their own to substantiate their claimed debunking.

    And our march to Civil War 2 will continue unabated.

    FYI it’s a pretty good bet that an Israeli was involved with the leaking of Trump’s discussion with the Russian ambassador. #EST

    ***

    Canadian Friend explores the topic of mutiny/sedition against President Trump (and the Americans who voted for him), and urges Trump to take drastic measures to stop it.

    Guess who owns the Washington post?

    Jeff Bezo, the same guy who created Amazon

    Bezo has a 600 million dollars service contract with the CIA to build a private “cloud” it is a 10 year contract.

    Bezo is very close to the CIA

    the Washington post regularly has leaked information to hurt Trump, that information must come from the CIA.

    Trump can not even trust the CIA anymore.

    The Washington Post recently hired Podesta…the same Podesta who’s emails were leaked.

    Podesta was the campaign manager for Hillary.

    In 2015 Amazon hired Jay Carney ( Obama’s press secretary )

    an entire “army” of angry liberals full of hatred for Trump are all connected and have a lot of power

    Trump not only won the election, which was humiliating for all those little liberals but Trump has been highly critical of Bezo.

    An 8 year old could connect the dots; Obviously the Washington Post is not into informing or not even into news but into getting revenge for the humiliating defeat the democrats suffered and they will do all they can to hurt Trump…and they will do all they can to divert attention away from the wrong doings of Hillary and of important democrats.

    Trump will have to do something about this. I do not know what, but it is not healthy to have the main stream media run by the opposing party and have the CIA collude with both the MSM and the opposing party all of them trying to sabotage the presidency.

    I have no idea what can be done but , this can not go on, Trump has to do something.

    So far I seem to be the only person using the term mutiny ( I read a lot of blogs, I am obsessed with USA politics ) , but I can not find a word that fits better

    the USA is like a ship and Trump is its captain and more than half the staff is trying to make the ship crash and sink, they are more than subversive, they are into mutiny.

    mutiny ( wikipedia ) ; Mutiny is a criminal conspiracy among a group of people (typically members of the military or the crew of any ship, even if they are civilians) to openly oppose, change, or overthrow a lawful authority to which they are subject. The term is commonly used for a rebellion among members of the military against their superior officers, but it can also occasionally refer to any type of rebellion against an authority figure.

    This is a mutiny.

    The media hires people who criminally conspire to overthrow the president.

    call it sedition if you want, I think it is a mutiny

    In England mutiny used to be punishable by death because mutiny is something very serious.

    I am not saying Trump should punish by death those people, I am saying this is very serious and something drastic must be done to stop this mutiny.

    I was 4 years old when Kennedy was assassinated, I have seen a lot of things along the years but I have never seen such an organized criminal conspiracy to overthrow a USA president as I am seing now.

    I thought the left had reached peak insanity with Bush derangement syndrome but apparently there is a lot more crazy in them.

    The level of corruption on the left is way too high.

    I have no idea how Trump can drain the biggest swamp in the history of the world, and the richest swamp in the history of the world ( those people have access to trillions of dollars ) but he must do it, he has to do it. Those people must be stopped.

  73. redress

    Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus………listen and learn…….DJT telling it like it is.

  74. Bruce of Newcastle

    Scott Adams also has been addressing this in his last two blog posts (the most recent from today):

    The Slow-Motion Assassination of President Trump

    Today’s headline news is that an alleged Comey memo indicates President Trump tried to obstruct justice in the Flynn investigation by saying to Comey in a private meeting, “I hope you can let this go.”

    Key word = hope

    If you can sit passively while watching the Opposition Media turn “hope” into “asked Comey to end the investigation,” you are part of the slow assassination of President Trump. And you are also part of the slow assassination of the next president, and the next. If Trump goes down from leaks, Mutually Assured Destruction kicks in automatically.

    I might add that no one has seen the actual memo yet. Which is curious. It’s not as if the NYT couldn’t’ve included a picture of it in their story.

    A Quick Look at President Trump and the Big Picture (Monday)

    Let’s take a look at the things that are going well for President Trump, and the things that are not, and see if there is a pattern. Here I will include topics that are not necessarily the president’s accomplishments or faults. I’ll simply describe the current state of things.

    [long list of pros and cons]

    Did you find the pattern?

    All the important stuff is trending positive. Trump is not the sole cause of all that goodness, but he hasn’t broken anything important. That counts too. We’ve had plenty of presidents who broke stuff. Think of Nixon’s price caps, Carter’s hostage rescue mission failure, and Bush-the-younger’s Iraq war. When presidents don’t break anything, that’s a big deal

    The topics that are problematic for President Trump include unconfirmed gossip, rumors, fake news, irrational worries, imaginary problems, trivial matters, and simple differences in political priorities.

    The MSM by this endless assault is achieving success where they have always intended: the RINO herd. They are starting to go weak at the knees. Whether that will translate into anything meaningful I don’t know. But if I was a RINO I would be very careful of the GOP voters with baseball bats who I suspect quite like Trump and what he’s doing.

  75. Aussiepundit

    They don’t need evidence really, they merely need ongoing investigations in place.
    Forcing Trump and his inner circle to testify in their own defence could ruin him, regardless of the merits of the original accusations.

  76. Caveman

    Lucy, trolling your own post and not very well. I think you are psychotic having read one of your other posts “In defence of Donald Trump” i think your a retardo.

  77. Infidel Tiger

    Two things we know about John McCain:

    1. bad pilot
    2. VC successfully converted him.

  78. struth

    Trump is fine.
    If you don’t listen to the bullshit and look at facts, Trump is going nowhere.
    I think there are a few more than just the GOP elite that are paying way too much attention to left wing msm fabrication.
    Look at the facts.
    Even Polosi recognises hysteria is doing damage to her side.
    It’s just that the Don is getting close to really winning and the media will lose bigly and huuugely from this.
    This is the beautiful sound of the wolves being pulled from their lairs.
    The draining of the swamp.
    Rejoice in it .

  79. tgs

    Ehhh, I’m nowhere near the biggest Trump cheerleader on this blog but this was a pretty bad post – deliberately misconstruing the meaning of the Trump comment and all.

    One might even say it was… low energy.

  80. ned

    Anyone who is right-leaning and has ever read political news knows that the mainstream media has a left-leaning bias—and any Republican running for office was bound to receive far less favorable treatment than the Democratic nominee. If that Republican were able to win the presidency, coverage of them would also be hostile.

    The mainstream media have always been in favor of presidential power. For the next four years, the mainstream media will oppose presidential power.

    The Mainstream Media Are Undermining the Presidency. Good!

    I believed in a weak Presidency. I believed in Presidential impotence.

    by Gary North

  81. .

    Trump has been in office for 120 days.

    He was criticised from the right before he got into office. Too left on guns, taxes and abortion.

    He changed his tone and is moderately libertarian.

    If think he has done well on Syria and North Korea.

    His only real stuff up was drafting the 1st immigration EO. He’s done a lot of other good stuff, regarding deregulation. I’m not sure if he is entirely to blame for not putting Obamacare and the UN to the sword. Apparently, I have high standards and I am impatient.

    Let’s see how he goes over the next eight months, and give him an even chance.

    As a non-voting, non-American, I reckon his main priorities are tax cuts, balancing the budget and taking on the often illegally operating intelligence apparatus.

    Moving America away from acting like STASI and being solvent, and allowing people to save and own their own businesses is a good plan to MAGA.

  82. Mother Lode

    . (Dot)
    #2382848, posted on May 18, 2017 at 10:33 am

    +1

  83. struth

    Truth and honesty are huge bigly weapons.

    The thing that everyone needs to think about is that if there was anything at all, other than a pussy remark years ago, the forces of the left could use they would have.
    Their shit doesn’t work against good men.
    They haven’t seen one before.
    With the deep state and media and corruption of the swamp, the billions of dollars at their disposal and the overwhelming powers against him, do you think that if they had anything on him it would not be out there already?
    Would sacking one person stop it?
    Seriously?
    TDS is caused specifically by left wing heads when they have nothing.
    Obviously, they have nothing.

  84. old bloke

    Lucy, your obsession is quite unbecoming. For the sake of your reputation, give it a rest.

    PS. You forgot to mention that DT takes two scoops of ice-cream, shocking isn’t it?

  85. Mother Lode

    PS. You forgot to mention that DT takes two scoops of ice-cream, shocking isn’t it?

    old bloke,

    I read that it was two scoops of baby flesh (the issue of a ritualistic coupling of Trump as a demon with his daughter), served out with a solid gold scoop gifted him by Putin and blessed by a Satanic priest.

    The journos in attendance were forced to eat a scoop each as part of a ceremony to bring them under a spell where they would only report articles praising trump – but Trump and his minions had not counted on the valiant journos with their professional ethics so pure that there was nothing for the spell to latch onto, so they were free to report the truth.

    I hadn’t seen your version before, old bloke.

  86. struth

    Although they have nothing, they have everything to hide.

    Truth integrity and honesty.
    Every time the left attacks it shoots itself in the foot and I find this such great fun to watch while also depairing at my own country and waiting for the left’s successful assassination attempt.
    They only have violence left.

    To me, we are being reminded daily of just how much evil has triumphed when good men do nothing.
    A good man who refuses payment for his duty to his country in the face of all that evil, can’t even gain a stand back and watch approach from the likes of the pea brains LQC really reminds us of the inherent lack of maturity and integrity in our modern generations.
    LQC would rather Hitler because General Pattern embarrasses him with his gun slinging dress sense.

  87. The career and wisdom of Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus has been much embellished by legend.

    An old Vietnam vintage general once told a group of us, “Never fear a walk in the loneliness of your own convictions.
    If you do, neither you nor they, are worth very much.”

    That, of course, is 180 degrees opposed to our politicians who seem driven not by principle or service,
    but a maniacal compulsion to survive until pension time or a plum job.

  88. struth

    Apologies gen……spell check.
    And the first sentence is completely separate from the next.

    You’re not a general, testes.

  89. struth wrote at 11:17 am, “Although they have nothing, they have everything to hide. Truth integrity and honesty. They only have violence left.”

    Maybe that is why these things are happening Struth?

  90. old bloke

    Could any of the learned Cats here help?

    Just before Seth Richards was executed, I remember reading that his manager, I think it was the DNC’s IT Manager, was reported missing. I can’t remember his name, or if he’s since been found, does anyone know what happened to him?

  91. Empire

    The reason why the media and just about everyone else criticises Trump is because he is an idiot and unfit for office. It’s that simple. If he acted reasonably and achieved things the media would go quiet.

    You display either willful ignorance or dishonesty. Which is it?

  92. old bloke

    Mother Lode
    #2382884, posted on May 18, 2017 at 11:07 am

    I read that it was two scoops of baby flesh (the issue of a ritualistic coupling of Trump as a demon with his daughter), served out with a solid gold scoop gifted him by Putin and blessed by a Satanic priest.

    Baby flesh is OK, Trump is lucky that he didn’t eat an onion.

  93. Montesque level trolling.

    I am offended. I outrank Lucius by quite a few levels.

  94. JC

    Whether Trump is an idiot or not, it doesn’t matter anymore because the appointment of the special counsel to look into the Trump administration’s association with Russia is likely to sap any energy out of the president, the GOP congress and everything else. It’s a fucking disaster for reforms moving forward.

  95. Dr Fred Lenin

    Its the Fake Roman again with his Fake ” news” straight from party HQ THESE REGRESSIVES ARE MENTALLY DERANGED . they need medicating ,so full of unreasoning hatred for anything that doesnt follow the u.n.communist line . President Trump was merely telling the cadets the old maxim ,”nils illigitimus carborundum ” latin I will translate for the Fake Roman ,”dont let the bastards grind you down “,good advice ftom one who knows .

  96. Andrew

    Bruce
    #2382643, posted on May 18, 2017 at 7:33 am
    Lucius, just let it go. He won, get over it.

    Why is Lucy Turnbull allowed to rubbish this blog with puerile shit like this? I’m sure mOron’s blog welcomes guest posts from these brain-dead numpties and fuckwits.

  97. NewChum

    The reason why the media and just about everyone else criticises Trump is because he is an idiot and unfit for office. It’s that simple. If he acted reasonably and achieved things the media would go quiet.

    Although the author of this blog tantrum is clearly a troll, it does show the TDS at an advanced stage.

    Trump is an idiot? So how did he manage to secure the land and get permission to build Trump tower in his early thirties? I have some idiot relatives and they can’t secure a credit card application.

    Fitness for office is determined by the voters. Ergo, he is fit. Even the appalling Bill Shortern is fit for office.

    As for he concern trolling about how it would be ok if he just acted OK. The media invented a ‘Russia hacked the election’ story from nothing – not a shred of evidence,motive, payoff or even how it was ‘hacked’. They are still going on about it, I would say they will for the whole term. Just like how 911 truthers still talk about controlled explosions or whatever it is.

    Finally- Trump likes to serve up two big delicious scoops of rhetoric and hyperbole with every speech. He has always done so, he will always do so. Get the fainting couches ready, and strengthen the pearls because you’ve got a lot of concern trolling ahead.

  98. mh

    Just seen this thread. About to post but Adam (post #2) has summed up why LQC needs ignoring.

    Now i’ll go and see if there is anything worthwhile on this blog.

  99. terry andrews

    So you buffoon, you would prefer to see the trailertrash borgias in the white house again? It was one or the other. The more the left screams the more encouraged I am that hes the right man.

  100. Iampeter

    Not that we were having any good reforms anyway and it feels like the Democrats won the last election, but you’re right JC, this is going to be a show stopping problem.

    Hey imagine if Conservatives were as good at politics as the Democrats are, why Obama’s administration wouldn’t have even lasted a term.

    Oh well, they will just keep blaming the media, instead of their own lack of ideas.

  101. JC

    I hate the term, but Mueller sounds like deep state and aligned with the Bush family.

    This looks like a disaster.

    You know there’s trouble when the D’rats are cheering the Mueller appointment.

  102. Tom

    LQC is projecting his own stupidity and biases. No point in reading his rubbish, ever again! Hiding behind a nomdeplume is cowardly too.

  103. Robber Baron

    The Trump presidency is an awesome presidency. We live in exciting times.

    Sit back, keep an open mind that this is all political theatre to test The Donald. If he comes through this, he will be the best president in the history of the USA.

  104. will

    m0nty
    #2382921, posted on May 18, 2017 at 11:45 am
    Montesque level trolling.

    I am offended. I outrank Lucius by quite a few levels.

    so Monty has just admitted to being a troll, and offering nothing useful

  105. brennan

    More leftist drivel from Lucy. Sinc, please stop posting this twats rubbish.

  106. candy

    This looks like a disaster.

    jc, perhaps the inquiry will put the whole Russian interference into the election nonsense to bed?

    It seems 99.9% improbable that there was collusion between PUtin and Trump for Trump to win the election. I always felt it was a lefty journalist who made the story up in the first week after the election or so and the story snowballed because desperate to get him impeached. I don’t see Trump as a dishonest man, impulsive but not dishonest.

    If the inquiry says no evidence of collusion surely that’s the best outcome?

  107. If he acted reasonably and achieved things the media would go quiet.

    This is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard.

  108. Stimpson J. Cat

    “Like in any campaign, there are so many different crosscurrents and events, and some have a greater impact than others.
    Certainly misogyny played a role, I mean, that has to be admitted.”

    Hillary Clinton.

  109. Cynic of Ayr

    More one-sided lefty crap from the Roman.
    Learn to think for your self, mate. You might find it enlightening, or even enjoyable.
    Then again, maybe not…

  110. Pat Warnock

    There was no vindictive media running fake news day after day then.

  111. test pattern

    ‘Trump’s claim is ridiculous and childish’

    And all those who accept it are extremely poor judges of character.

    And character is at the heart of the problem.

    Enough US voters, though not a majority, voted for him even though they were aware of his character issues. They gave him the chance to do something good for the US – he never intended to do much good for the rest of the world. He is a geriatric. Surely by now aware of his own character issues, he either couldn’t care less or is too old to change, or both. He knew his opponents and the media would be waiting to clobber him, yet he continues to arm them with hammers and sickles. His character issues are destroying his Presidency, not the media, not a conspiracy. His imminent downfall is all his own fault.

  112. Shagger

    For the life of me, I don’t know why everybody gets sucked in by this Lucy fellow.

    He’s like an angler casting a big-arse, delicious-looking lure at a school of hungry Barra – he knows he’s going to get a shite-load of strikes.

    Fair dinkum, just ignore the muppet. Maybe he’ll bugger off.

  113. Adam D

    “Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
    #2382657, posted on May 18, 2017 at 7:43 am
    The reason why the media and just about everyone else criticises Trump is because he is an idiot and unfit for office. It’s that simple. If he acted reasonably and achieved things the media would go quiet.”

    Well there it is, the stupidest post I have ever seen on this site. “The media would go quiet” – FMD

  114. .

    His character issues are destroying his Presidency

    Such a stupid phrase. He can serve a maximum of two four-year terms. He has no less legal authority than on Jan 20, 2017.

  115. cynical1

    Anyhow you get the point. Trump’s claim is ridiculous and childish. As is his presidency.

    Which is all of six months old.

    And he is already a great President.

    He stopped that chancre Hilary.

    Suck it up Princess.

    And by the way, Chelsea.

    Don’t even think about it.

  116. Boambee John

    candy at 1239

    Just catching up.

    If the Mueller inquiry is to follow the “Russia done it” meme through, then it will have to investigate the DNC “hacking”.

    To do this, it will have to ibvestigate the Wikileaks claim that the leak was from inside the DNC.

    To do this it will have to investigate the Seth Rich murder.

    Interesting times ahead.

  117. Oh come on

    There is often a temptation in democratic politics for people to get excited about the same old shit rebranded as something exceptional and mould-breaking – essentially, that political gravity no longer applies. However, it always does. The Obama Presidency is an obvious example, but pretty much every Presidential candidacy has relied upon claiming it’s somehow different and exceptional from what has gone before it, and that political gravity doesn’t apply in that particular instance because Bill was the first black President, Obama was the first black President, Hillary’s a woman, Bob Dole’s a workhorse, Romney’s a…well, I don’t really recall. The trees are the right height in Michigan, though. It’s always the same old shit, and there is nothing new under the sun.

    That is, until Trump went and got himself elected, breaking every rule in the campaign book, doing everything that should instantly render a GOP candidate completely unelectable – and more. Yet he made it over the line. This was never supposed to happen. If you wish to deny that we are in uncharted waters, it is you that is delusional. You want to count Trump out now – you’re a fool.

    How many times has Trump’s political demise been declared? How many times does he have to defy the people making these declarations to convince them that what they’re witnessing is something very different to what came before, and the old rules they’re basing their Trump obituaries on may not be applicable?

    Do they really, honestly think he’s got this far by accident?

  118. Tracey

    I expect the president of the united states to be articulate.

    Words fail me. If the teleprompter malfunctioned Barry couldn’t string three intelligible words together.

    Re the Russian interference thing, if you believe that Putin’s preference was President Trump over President Clinton #2, the woman who gave him access to a third of America’s uranium, I have a lovely bridge to show you.

  119. Crossie

    Bezo has a 600 million dollars service contract with the CIA to build a private “cloud” it is a 10 year contract.

    If that’s the case then Trump needs to cancel that contract.

  120. Thank God Donald is an arch narcissist. None other could withstand the onslaught he is facing, and will continue to face, throughout his presidency.

    They will continue to through everything possible at him.

  121. Grace

    My understanding of DJT’s statement was that he was referring to the media. In that context I would have to agree that his statement is a 100 percent spot on.

  122. Tintarella di Luna

    I reckon Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus has tickets on him/herself

  123. Fulcrum

    I think it would be difficult to disagree that Trump is the most demonised leader in history.

    Unfortunately, semantics, allegations and mudslinging polerize opinion and hatred are the weapons of choice in the media today.

    The warnings of 1984 have come to pass, and our society is the worse for it.

  124. Yohan

    For every 5 negative Trump headlines, Trump is responsible for 1 of them, the other 4 being something benign that’s spun into a scandal, or just outright fabricated.

    Trump does make fucking stupid and needless mistakes, but he is under a media assault the likes we have never seen in history. And that’s what he is talking about, with his statement. Lucius is just being a Nevertrump idiot by pretending not to understand what Trump means, ludicrously comparing him to historical figures who were tortured or murdered.

    They don’t need evidence really, they merely need ongoing investigations in place.
    Forcing Trump and his inner circle to testify in their own defence could ruin him, regardless of the merits of the original accusations.

    Yes, the endless investigations are bleeding him. That is why he fired Comey, because Comey was going to let it run on and on to extract maximum damage.

  125. bobby b

    We elected him primarily because he is Not Hillary.

    For his entire first 100 days, he remained Not Hillary, making them the most successful First 100 Days of an American Presidency in history.

    When he begins to become Hillary, he may lose our support.

    Self-proclaimed American conservatives who call him a failure are merely yearning for the tender embraces of Hillary. Self-proclaimed non-American conservatives who call him a failure can go spit.

  126. classical_hero

    https://youtu.be/HdFyOFWaLys

    There’s so much evidence out that disproves the story that I’m surprised any even believes this.

  127. zaphod

    The Don will probably be relieved to get out of the US for a while when he jets off to Saudi Arabia on Friday. He’ll feel appreciated being entertained by the head loppers.A day late for the entertainment in chop chop square unfortunately, but they’ve arranged a packed schedule of events for Trump’s two-day trip, which includes figures as varied as Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir, who has been indicted for war crimes by the International Criminal Court, and Fox News host Bret Baier. He may get a chance to catch country and western star Toby Keith, who’s playing a men-only concert there on the weekend. Wonder if he’ll perform his hit song “beer for my horse”? The visit should be an absolute hoot. The Don can forget about all the Russian bullshit for a couple of days.

  128. iampeter

    For his entire first 100 days, he remained Not Hillary, making them the most successful First 100 Days of an American Presidency in history.

    But the very fact that he has governed the first 100 days exactly as we would have expected if Hillary had won (and if Democrats controlled all the branches of government) is why so many of us who supported him for the same reason as you have turned on him.

    Not only is the swamp not being drained, it is getting nicely topped up.

    The only thing I would add is that this is not all Trump’s fault. The lions share lions with the entirely ideologically bankrupt Conservative movement which has no legislative agenda to offer that differs in any way from that of the Democrats.

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