Scream Test: ABC edition

This comment made on Q&A Monday night is causing a kerfuffle:

You’re more right likely to be killed by a refrigerator, in the United States, falling on you.

As Rowan Dean pointed out on Tuesday – within hours 22 refrigerators fell on some teenage girls and their parents and friends in Manchester.

Then we had this testable hypothesis from Tony Jones:

…  I suppose, if you’re a young black American, you’re more likely to be killed by policeman (sic).

So according to the ABC refrigerators and policemen are the real menace to society.

Actually, no. According to the ABC, refrigerators, policemen and, our very good friend, Roger Franklin are the real menace to society.

As everyone now knows Roger wrote a rather impassioned response to the refrigerator menace.

It’s a monstrously absurd and obscene self-evident untruth to claim that refrigerators are more dangerous than terrorists, but it fits with the approved narrative, so not a peep from the man who is paid by the national broadcaster to promote fair, free, frank and factual debate on matters of national importance.

Now before we proceed I do want to point to a factual error Roger made. The ABC does not “promote fair, free, frank and factual debate on matters of national importance”. This is the organisation that claimed that Islam is the world’s most feminist religion, that people who question climate warming are paedophiles, that Australian navy personal tortured asylum seekers, that live exports to Indonesia were being mistreated before slaughter, that greyhound trainers were systematically abusing animals. I’m sure the list will be expanded in the thread.

Now I agree that the risk of being killed in a terrorist attack is somewhat slight. The risk of being killed in an aeroplane crash is very slight too – yet nobody ever argues that aeroplane maintenance is unimportant.

It is all a matter of perspective. As Roger then demonstrated:

What if that blast had detonated in an Ultimo TV studio? Unlike those young girls in Manchester, their lives snuffed out before they could begin, none of the panel’s likely casualties would have represented the slightest reduction in humanity’s intelligence, decency, empathy or honesty.

Well. What a blast it was. The bed wetters are beside themselves in outrage. Twitter is in meltdown.  Our friends in the fifth column estate are expressing more outrage over a thought experiment and value judgement as to their contribution to humanity than they did over a murderous terrorist attack on teenyboppers. It didn’t take an actual explosion for the luvvies to see the errors of their ways but the mere thought of an explosion.  According to the Guardian:

In a strongly worded letter to the editor of Quadrant, the ABC managing director, Michelle Guthrie, said ABC staff had to be reassured of their safety and safety experts had to be called in to assess if there had been any damage to security from the inflammatory words.

The ABC called in a safety expert! Why? They have Lawrence Krauss on hand. A man who just on Monday night assured Australians – and presumably the ABC – that people were more likely to be killed by a refrigerator falling on them than in a terrorist attack. Do ABC employees not believe the statistics they peddle on our taxpayer funded ABC? You are perfectly safe people. Just watch for those refrigerators.

Confected outrage – and the scream test at work.

The other interesting thing is Chris Kenny’s experience – himself a victim of ABC bullying. Last night on Sky he gave a nuanced appraisal of Roger’s op-ed. He thought the idea of a bomb blast at Ultimo over the top. Today he wrote a column in The Australian making the same point:

So the argument, and indeed the anger, evident in a comment piece published yesterday by Quadrant online editor Roger Franklin was understandable. But he went way too far — he crossed a line in public debate that should never be crossed and can never be condoned.

Franklin dared to wish such violence upon the ABC — apparently to teach them a lesson — and in doing so he not only destroyed his own argument but diminished public debate in this nation.

Hmmmmmm – publishing photoshoped images of people fornicating with dogs doesn’t diminish public debate? Calling global warming sceptics paedophiles doesn’t diminish public debate? I digress. For his troubles Chris Kenny is now being accused of  condoning violence against the ABC.

In the meantime I can I suggest that if you are not already a subscriber to Quadrant that you become one.

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267 Responses to Scream Test: ABC edition

  1. hzhousewife

    You couldn’t do a panel show called “Hypotheticals” these days.

  2. Cynic of Ayr

    A cat advised that the UK telegraph published an atriclew on Roger’s article.
    I quote from the Telegraph:
    An editor of a conservative magazine in Australia has been widely condemned for a “revolting” claim that the Manchester bombing should have happened at the headquarters of the ABC, Australia’s public broadcaster.
    In comments that have caused a storm on social media and have been referred to the police, Roger Franklin, the online editor of Quadrant, lamented on the magazine’s website that the victims of the bombing were not panelists who had downplayed the threat of terrorism on Monday night’s Q&A programme, which aired before the Manchester attack.
    If there had been a shred of justice that blast would have detonated in an Ultimo TV studio [where Q&A was recorded],” he wrote.

    This is outright lying! They even put words that were not written in quotation marks!
    How the hell do we all fight against that? I don’t know!
    I tried to contact Chris Kenny, but he’s hiding behind Twitter.
    Does anyone know how to email this arsehole?

  3. Cynic of Ayr

    Will this cockhead, Infidel Tiger, get the hell out of here!
    You are a sheepish fuckwit! You’re a paid-up member of the Traitor Class! Instead of reading the Quadrant article, you’re reading what your mates at the ABC are lying. What a drongo!
    Any slight thought by me not to re-subscribe to Quadrant was instantly dispelled by your rant.
    Quadrant should thank you, as I’m sure that quite a few will subscribe, merely because you advised against it!
    Get the hell out, you arsehole!

  4. Libby Zee

    I quote from the Telegraph:

    If there had been a shred of justice that blast would have detonated in an Ultimo TV studio [where Q&A was recorded],” he wrote.

    This is outright lying! They even put words that were not written in quotation marks!

    Cynic of Ayr, you seem to be somewhat uninformed. In your earlier comment you quoted the amended version of that sentence. The original version of that sentence was quoted here on the Cat and has been correctly quoted by the UK Telegraph.

  5. Bad Samaritan

    It’s all kinda amusing, the reaction of the ABC and it’s group-thinking herds, to Franklin’s “threat”.
    On the one hand there’s all this swaggering bravado about how much us naughty westerners deserve being blown up because of some imagined slight or failing of some description; how the coppers are knuckle-dragging neanderthals and racists intent on killing blacks (in Australia “in custody”)…..But then when there’s the slightest whiff of someone maybe possibly “inciting violence” against them, then it’s full on call the cops and have ’em all dragged away.

    Now why does this remind me of the ABC, always taking the side of the crims (see, most recently, the 4 Corners “kids in detention in the NT” beatup) when the crims are bashing raping and murdering Joe and Jill Citizen in the ‘burbs, but then going totally ape-shit and full-on “lock him up and throw away the key” when one of their very own colleagues is raped and murdered in inner city Melbourne?

    Could it be that (almost) every member of the ABC sees themselves as an aristocratic fox-hunting ubermensch (sorry, no umlaut for that u, on my keyboard) forever wondering why the peasants cannot submit to their authority? Yeap, that’s it, alright.

  6. Cynic of Ayr

    Libby Zee, you’re correct. I did not see the original, I only saw it after it was apparently edited.
    However… Roger Franklin was outraged at the murder of 22 kids. Genuinely outraged, not sanctimoniously outraged as 99.99 percent of the reporters and commentators were.
    Slogans of love and compassion for humanity, vigils, flowers, balloons and twits of pear clutching, is not outrage. It’s stupidity. A stupidity that encourages, rewards, and entertains our enemy.
    Roger Franklin had the guts to vent his outrage in a heart born article that actually told a truth.
    The truth is that the ABC is the enemy of a free Australia, and the enemy of a safe Australia.
    Almost ceaselessly, it promotes people who show a blatant disregard and contempt for Australia. Look no further than the cesspool that is QandA.
    The ABC itself, as a co-ordinated group, also shows contempt for anyone who disagrees with their agenda, and it is an agenda!
    It’s fairly well noted and agreed that Australia is at war with Islamic Terrorism. Millions of dollars are spent chasing, guarding, watching and investigating hundreds of people and suspicious actions at home. Millions are spent overseas for the same purpose. War costs a lot of money!
    By promoting Islam, as a culture, by actively refusing at every opportunity, to report on any activity or action that may oppose that culture, the ABC is, therefore, at war with Australia.
    So, do I feel disgusted, appalled, or any of the other fake and contrived nuances bandied about at Roger Franklin’s unedited version?
    No, I do not!
    I applaud Roger Franklin for having the courage to voice an opinion shared by many.
    Would I prefer a bomb at Ultimo, rather than one at a children’s concert?
    In a heartbeat I would!

  7. Boambee John

    m0nty

    You still have not defined “nazi”.

    Too difficult for you? Easier just to call anyone whose views you don’t like a nazi?

    No wonder you will not condemn the crimes of communists, the Red Nazis.

  8. cohenite

    ilajd

    #2390380, posted on May 25, 2017 at 10:24 am

    Roger’s spendid wit and wisdom now removed from the Quadrant page. Thankfully it remains here for all.

    Fuck it.

  9. Habib

    Quadrant sub now gone bye-bye. I keep hearing this mewling that “they can’t afford to defend themselves from the Big Bad ABC, and its taxpayer warchest“. Since when did “eat shit and die” cost a dinar? I’d deploy it for free on their behalf. What’s the ABC and its pathetic enablers on the treasury benches going to do, withdraw their advertising? Sue? For what?

    Sitzpinklers, every one of them.

  10. Bill Thompson

    I’m just putting together a selection of Q&A’s greatest “hits” from Monday night. I’ll be surprised if defamation suits don’t result & heads don’t roll…

    Here, physicist & self-styled political genius, Lawrence Krauss, feels free to insult both US leaders & the entire GOP & even the conservative-substitute on the panel can barely raise a whimper.

    https://youtu.be/lhopFXROIdQ

  11. Bill Thompson

    Q&A – I think I read somewhere that winning a defamation suit is easier in Australia than in the US. On the other hand, maybe Lawrence can demonstrate the truth of his allegations.

    https://youtu.be/-CDooeQO7UI

  12. Bill Thompson

    This is the bit that’s all over the web at present – I nearly gagged when Krauss led with the “fridge” gambit but Snowcone’s follow-up had me screaming at the TV. I’ve personally emailed articles to Jones many times, regarding the ongoing black-on-black bloodbath in Chicago & other US cities & asked him to kindly balance the rhetoric on Q&A & other ABC shows… Now this.

    https://youtu.be/ql74Jo7PV3Y
    youtu.be/ql74Jo7PV3Y

  13. .

    Cynic of Ayr
    #2390460, posted on May 25, 2017 at 11:29 am
    Will this cockhead, Infidel Tiger, get the hell out of here!
    You are a sheepish fuckwit! You’re a paid-up member of the Traitor Class! Instead of reading the Quadrant article, you’re reading what your mates at the ABC are lying. What a drongo!
    Any slight thought by me not to re-subscribe to Quadrant was instantly dispelled by your rant.
    Quadrant should thank you, as I’m sure that quite a few will subscribe, merely because you advised against it!
    Get the hell out, you arsehole!

    IT writes a lot of cynical or satirical comments. He’s trying to make you think. Calling him a traitor because he thinks the Quaddie and conservatives generally make tactical errors?

    No.

  14. Boambee John

    From the open thread.

    #2390798, posted on May 25, 2017 at 3:48 pm
    From the ABC Scream Test thread

    Boambee John
    #2390573, posted on May 25, 2017 at 12:55 pm
    m0nty

    You still have not defined “nazi”.

    Too difficult for you? Easier just to call anyone whose views you don’t like a nazi?

    No wonder you will not condemn the crimes of communists, the Red Nazis.

    m0nty

    Since you appear unwilling to define “nazi” (though quite happy to see Antifa thugs beat up anyone they or you consider to be a nazi) I thought a comparison table might help.

    Totalitarian government: nazi, yes; communist, yes.

    Secret police accountable only to dictatorial leader: nazi, yes; communist, yes.

    Arbitrary arrest and imprisonment: nazi, yes; communist, yes.

    Concentration camps for dissidents: nazi, yes; communist, yes.

    Show trials: nazi, yes; communist, yes.

    Execution of perceived “enemies of the state: nazi, yes; communist, yes.

    Does this help?

  15. Cynic of Ayr

    Dot, several times he called for readers not to subscribe to Quadrant. Several!
    That’s not satire, that’s stupid.
    What was his thought other than what he wrote?
    If he succeeded in convincing even one person to cancel, or not go ahead with a subscription, he’s failed in his endeavors to be “cynical and satirical.”
    If he succeeded in creating a swathe of new subscribers, merely to give him the finger, then he’s been successful. I suspect there’s only one Cynic he convinced there!
    Arguing for something, in the hope or expectation that the reverse will happen, is a doubtful procedure.
    I will not read him again. How do I know what his true beliefs, idea, or opinions are? How do I know if his writing are clever, or merely a subtle way of giving me the finger? Is he another Obama? No idea what he’s saying is true or bullshit?
    Anyway, perhaps I got too personal, but I suffer fools very un-gladly.

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