Plausible deniability

Yobbo emails to report these pictures all over Perth:

But Socialist Alliance are ahead of us – apparently it is all a hoax.

The group also posted a comment on their Facebook page to clarify it had nothing to do with the posters.

“Obviously we didn’t produce or put these up and we are committed to fighting racism and anti-semitism,” it wrote.

“Presumably they are made by the sad and desperate far right in an attempt to discredit us.

We’re invited to believe that it is a false flag operation.  But the Socialist Alliance is not  “committed to fighting racism and anti-semitism”.  As far as I can work out it is an active supporter of the BDS campaign.

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77 Responses to Plausible deniability

  1. Token

    As far as I can work out it is an active supporter of the BDS campaign

    What is the old saying about the 2 choices the left has when it comes to stardards?

    Double or nothing.

  2. Pete of Perth

    SA’s paper is off the planet: redflag.

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It’s Socialist Alliance putting them up, to claim it’s being done to make Socialist Alliance look bad..

  4. GerardO

    Sinc is perfect evidence that economists are the dumbest people on Earth.

  5. Mark A

    GerardO
    #2410724, posted on June 12, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    Sinc is perfect evidence that economists are the dumbest people on Earth.

    Well, I wouldn’t fight for your right to write stupid meaningless crap like this, the Doomlord may.

    But I have to ask, what does your comment has to do with anything, let alone with this thread?

  6. C.L.

    Good to hear from Yobbo.
    The SA probably has been trolled but, as Sinclair points out, it’s a hoax that bespeaks a larger truth.

  7. It is true that J&wish people are disproportionately represented in the ownership, control and management of the media and entertainment industries. However, that is the result of a couple of quirks in history, not some kind of conspiracy.

  8. GerardO

    Mark A
    Being anti-Israel/anti-Zionism has only tenuous links to anti-semitism. Israel =/= Jews (for the billionth time).

  9. testpattern

    This mirrors the poster used to discredit Waleed Aly in freo which accused him of child abuse and was, like this, a fake, claiming to be socialist alliance. The old van tongeren mob used the same tactics.

  10. GerardO

    I forgot about the sweJ thing.
    Stupid rule — just ban the troublemakers imo.

  11. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This mirrors the poster used to discredit Waleed Aly in freo which accused him of child abuse and was, like this, a fake, claiming to be socialist allianc

    It was actually used against Dr. Anne Aly – no relation to Waleed, to the best of my knowledge.

  12. Bruce in WA

    Sinc is perfect evidence that economists are the dumbest people on Earth.

    And you are perfect evidence that trolls are the dumbest ladies’ front bottoms on Earth.

  13. testpattern

    Wrong as usual cokebottle. Waleed not anne.

    http://freoreport.net

  14. GerardO

    Bruce in WA
    I’m sure you think everyone with a different opinion to yourself is a troll, Bruce.
    (that’s an opinion I receive all the time from SJWs, btw)

  15. Habib

    I call shennanigans. Or more accurately, kristalnacht.

  16. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Wrong as usual cokebottle. Waleed not anne.

    You are aware, aren’t you, that “Billy Cokebottle ” was a white man pretending to be an Aborigine? Lois Beers, on the old Barry Martin and John K Watts show? You woodduck.

  17. You are aware, aren’t you, that “Billy Cokebottle ”
    was a white man pretending to be an Aborigine?

    And didn’t the local Aboriginals love him.
    Right up to the moment they learned he was a white guy taking the p1ss.
    About two years, IIRC.

  18. testpattern

    U idiot. LB is from South Africa not Dutch as he claims. His parole officer got him a job in a hay st menswear store where he met watts and impressed him with his jailhouse routine, then was invited on radio. When Perth tired of his humour he moved to qld to entertain cops, the very ppl who locked him up in the first place. Clever conman. His parole officer was embarrassed but there were worse things.

  19. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    U idiot. LB is from South Africa not Dutch as he claims.

    I am confused. I have no recollection of LB claiming to be from anywhere, considering he was masquerading as an Aborigine?

  20. PB

    Ok, all line up to pledge your loyalty and sympathy to your Chosen overlords…again.

  21. The maths on the poster is incorrect. We were 1% with the arrival of the First Fleet, but diminished and stabilised within a few years at about 0.5%.

  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    And didn’t the local Aboriginals love him.

    I did have a certain Noongar tell me “One of our mob on the radio, you want to listen to Billy Cokebottle.” I didn’t disillusion him..

  23. Bruce in WA

    Bruce in WA
    I’m sure you think everyone with a different opinion to yourself is a troll, Bruce.
    (that’s an opinion I receive all the time from SJWs, btw)

    Umm, no.

  24. James Morrend

    Several of the richest people and families in Australia are Jewish, and it is true that they wield extraordinary influence.

    Whether that’s a good or bad thing is up for debate, but it discussion of this fact must not be verboten.

  25. J.H.

    Sounds about right for that mob. Face covering cowards. They’re the same ilk as the Islamofascists. Rotten to the core.

  26. alexnoaholdmate

    If it’s a hoax, it only works because it’s exactly the kind of thing they would do.

  27. alexnoaholdmate

    Oh, I get it. Gerardo believes in this J e w conspiracy crap.

    And anyone who doesn’t is “dumb.”

    Yikes.

  28. I am the Walras, Equilibrate, and Price-Take

    But the Socialist Alliance is not “committed to fighting racism and anti-semitism”. As far as I can work out it is an active supporter of the BDS campaign.

    Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism.

  29. Up The Workers!

    The “Socialist Alternative” is now allegedly “NON-anti semitic” and “NON-Racist”???

    That would come as a BIG surprise to their most famous member of the last century.

    Adolf Hitler was Fuhrer of the Nationalist SOCIALIST German Workers’ Party. He seemed to have some pretty firm views on Jews and race. Maybe the ovens of Auschwitz, Treblinka, Belsen, Birkenau and other such Socialist “Workers’ Paradises” were just a figment of the imagination?

    The socialists are just gillarding again.

  30. Is there a difference between Socialist Alliance and Socialist Alternative? Posters say Socialist Alternative.
    The posters are all over Perth? Yet the phone number listed is for Victoria.
    False Flag looks the better bet thus far.

  31. alexnoaholdmate

    Denying the J e w s the right to exist in their ancient land, with a state of their own for the first time in twenty centuries, IS anti-Semitism.

    And if you disagree, Walras – I simply couldn’t give a shit. This is one of those areas that is not up for debate, just like arguing whether socialism works or whether the Moon Landing happened. It doesn’t, it did, and those are the facts.

    I am right, you are wrong – and an anti-Semite.

  32. john constantine

    The glorious strategy of fractal terror cells, inspired by their left, but not linked closely enough to any central funding source to enable victims to sue means that the left can claim any victory and disown any over-reach.

    Simply nailing any leftist bastardry back to the best funded leftist activists should be a strategy for non-leftists.

    If they want to run left wing militias, deploying masked thugs on the streets of Australian cities, and send spies to infiltrate business to set up sabotage photo opportunities and corrupt the abc by spoonfeeding Stalinist propaganda for taxfunded broadcast, they shouldn’t get to walk away from incidents:
    “Paying homage to the style of Stalinism”

    Their left owns leftist bastardry, every filthy scrap of it.

  33. duncanm

    Socialist Alternative?

    Splitters!

  34. Rabz

    Fake but accurate, to use a preferred collectivist phrase.

  35. Louis Hissink

    “S” words, “S” words – as in Socialist, Stupid, the words are inseparable, cannot have one without the other. And due to their innate tendency to wear sandals, “S” people also experience more severe cases of shooting one’s footism as well.

    As Forrest Gump noticed, stupid is as stupid does.

    And when they outnumber you, do nothing but hide in order to live another day.

  36. Mother Lode

    If it had been Socialist Alliance I would have thought it unlike them to put out the poster and then deny it – anyone who had come on board due to the content of the poster would be more pissed off at the retraction than if they had said nothing.

    It would make more sense if it were a case of some local chapter going to the presses without the imprimatur of the higher ups.

    But I think Socialist Alternative might be a different group from Socialist Alliance – the same logic applies (unless Socialist Alternative actually want to endorse this stuff.)

    Socialist Alliance, Socialist Alternative, Alternative Socialist Alliance etc. It seems a trait of lefties which becomes more dominant as you move further left – that the instinct of lockstep in ideology (unquestioning devotion to which entitle the believer to any act no matter how repulsive to human based ethics) means there is repeated branching offs from previous branchings off so that there are myriad little clubs all of them ‘pure’ and all of them suspicious of the other.

    The Marxists in the 70’s were a brilliant kaleidoscope of retards.

  37. Andrew

    So hypothetically, if the SA is “far left” and this was an operation by the “far right” to LOOK like the far left (apparently successfully), and the far right is supposedly the anti-Semites, then why would anyone post ant-Semitism to look like the diametrical opposite of the far right? Wouldn’t it be a better impersonation of the far left if they had posted signs about their great love of Joooooz? (You know, the opposite of the supposed far right?)

  38. Andrew

    Anyhow, why would anyone care if there are Jooooz in the meeja? Presumably a Jooooish family has as much right as anyone to start a newspaper, or to bid on a TV station up for sale by receivers. It doesn’t appear to be a particularly lucrative or monopolistic industry – much of the meeja is actually closing down as they can’t cover variable costs. If the population is 1% Jooooz, then they can’t be getting much of a free kick from selling to their own community.

  39. Suburban Boy

    There are three major media organisations in Australia: the ABC, News Corp and Fairfax.

    The ABC is run (as far as the staff will let her) by a Chinese, News by a Presbyterian-turned-Catholic Scot and Fairfax by a rabble of no-nothing losers almost all of whom have Anglo-Celtic surnames. Not so much a case of “Spot the Aussie” as “Spot the Kike”.

    And as for SA’s enthusiasm for BDS while denying anti-Semitism: As Duncan Lewis might have said, “There is absolutely no connection between Israel and Jews.”

  40. Suburban Boy

    “No-nothing” should read “know-nothing”, of course.

  41. Roger

    Iirc, Socialist Alternative was deregistered as a student group by Monash Uni for “discriminating” against J e w i s h students, i.e. employing verbal abuse and physical intimidation against them. They were also in the habit of depicting J e w s on their posters and banners in a style straight out of Nazi propaganda.

    Socialislam.

  42. notaluvvie

    If it’s Socialist Alternative Perth, why does it have a Melbourne phone number on the sign? And it’s a landline! How 19th century, just like Marxism, communism and socialism.

  43. I suspect politics will be taking quite a different turn in the coming era.

    But this will be because the Left have scaled up the politics of deceit and obscuration in the post-war period & the Right is only just confronting the lead the Left has in the propaganda (now there’s an old word!) war.

  44. De Fred Lenin

    This is shocking someone making the SA anti Israeli mongrels look like anti Israeli mongrels .
    SA? SA.? Seem to remember a socialist mongrel in Germany in the 1930s had a gang of murderous thugs called SA, history repeats. Dont it ? Not noted for agility a d innovation yer socialists are they?

  45. gbees

    Don’t give these Useful Idiots any publicity.

  46. John Bayley

    And it’s a landline!

    Well, not necessarily. With the broad adoption of VoIP, it makes no difference whatsoever what number you have in relation to where you are.
    As an example, my work VoIP number, which looks like a QLD landline, worked perfectly fine for clients to ring my mobile while I was in Europe recently, with callers being up for only local call rates.
    And conversely, I could ring anyone back home and they had no way of telling that I was not at the office.
    So in this instance, the Marxists may not be as backward and useless – at least when it comes to communications technology – as their ideology.

  47. Louis Hissink

    Mises once remarked that the hatred between the various socialist factions exceeded their combined hatred for capitalists.

  48. gbees

    Where do these whackos get their operating funds from? Wonder if somewhere, somehow we taxpayers are footing the bill or if it’s another George Soros pet project?

  49. nilk

    This would be the same Soc Alt who once declared to me that “The state of Israel must be crushed”?

    Well, one of their organisers did, years ago. The same mob who don’t believe in a two-state solution and have no issues with chanting “From the river to the sea, Palestine must be free?”

    Yeah, totes not anti-Semitic.

  50. Luke

    The meme on the posters has been used by far right groups overseas before.

    Using it as a false flag both spreads the information they want to get out and exposes the absurdity of leftist ideology.

    The popular mainstream left concepts of Whiteness and White privilege are almost identical to the arguments made by the far right about Jewish power.

  51. nilk

    Baa Humbug, the Socialist Alternative split from the Socialist Alliance years ago because (iirc) the Socialist Alliance weren’t Stalinist enough.

    Or something like that.

    It was quite entertaining for a while to attend pro-Pal rallies and see the two trestle tables from the different groups vying for my attention and dollars while giving each other the evil eye.

    It’s like the difference between the Trots and Stalinists. Its just a matter of degree.

  52. Luke

    Alternative split from Alliance because the old DPS completely controlled it.

    The Alternative have replaced the alliance as the biggest extreme left group in Australia now.

  53. Oh come on

    Several of the richest people and families in Australia are J00ish, and it is true that they wield extraordinary influence.

    Whether that’s a good or bad thing is up for debate, but it discussion of this fact must not be verboten.

    No, it isn’t up for discussion unless you are a racist who thinks it’s reasonable to entertain the proposition that there’s some kind of J00ish religion-wide conspiracy going on to prosper at the expense of everyone else.

    Otherwise, they are a group of individuals who share a religion and a culture that is clearly very good at nurturing success, and consequently they are disproportionately successful. What’s the bloody problem here? Should we not celebrate the successful and try to emulate their success for the betterment of our own lives?

    There are other ethnic or cultural groups in our society that are similarly good at nurturing success, and they too are disproportionately represented in positions of success. Why do we not have dark, conspiratorial discussions about how these other groups have clubbed together to ensure that they are stealing a part of our pie (or whatever stupid nonsense the anti-Semites who resent J00ish success claim)?

  54. mh

    I expect GetUp is involved.

  55. Wayne Hickman

    Zulu , I was told once by a resident of the Barossa Valley S.A. , That the Abo impersonator came from there .

  56. Slayer of Memes

    Only ‘false flag’ here is the Socialist Alliance claiming not to have put up signs for the Socialist Alternative..

    The website is for the Socialist Alternative, the phone number for the Socialist Alternative…. so why was the Socialist Alliance so quick to put its hand up to claim no responsibility?

  57. Oh come on

    Only ‘false flag’ here is the Socialist Alliance claiming not to have put up signs for the Socialist Alternative

    SAme-SAme – they’re all brownshirts.

  58. alexnoaholdmate

    The most one can say is, “Gee, J e w s in the western world have done well, despite incredible prejudice. Perhaps there is something in their culture – a dedication to education and the work ethic, perhaps – that is the cause. Entirely admirable abd to be applauded.”

    Anything else is a conspiracy theory from the days of the pogroms.

  59. test pattern

    The Perth antisemites and haters of aboriginals are one and the same conspiracy theorists. Some are on the fringes of academia. They tend to gather at a bookshop owned by a notorious publisher who is a member of LOR.

    For those readers who have never encountered the Trots let me enlighten you. They infiltrate and try to take over targeted issue groups/movements of which they believe they should be the vanguard. Everyone else then leaves. Let them have BDS.

  60. Leo G

    Only ‘false flag’ here is the Socialist Alliance claiming not to have put up signs for the Socialist Alternative

    Socialist Alternative is the group to which Roz Ward (Safeschools) belongs. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a stunt by them, designed to give them plausible deniability, and intended to be tripped by the likes of us.

  61. gowest

    Don’t phone its a Scam!

    Problem solvered..

  62. Bad Samaritan

    Walrus. Israel occupies about 25,000 sq ks, of which about 5000 sq ks could be in any way described as “taken by force”. The rest was ceded by the UN, and the 5000 in question was captured after Israel was attacked by Jordan and Syria 9iw west bank and golan Heights0.

    Meanwhile the 15 million sq ks occupied by Muslim Arabs, Turks, Iranians etc was all taken by conquest and resulted in the mass slaughter, rape enslavement of tens of millions of the original inhabitants/

    That the anti-Zionists are so upset by the 25,000 sq ks, but not upset at all by the Muslim 15,000,000 sq ks indicates that their beef is not about conquest or occupation (or alleged mistreatment etc) of people at all, but is really about the people and the religion of the people doing the alleged occupying.

    Thus far there is no call for Turkey to give the western coast back to the Greeks; no call for Egypt to hand over land to Copts and Nubians; Lebanon to give the Phoenicians a fair go….or any other land “return”. So…anti Zionism can really be nothing else than anti-Jooishness, wouldn’t you say?

  63. GerardO

    alexnoaholdmate

    This is one of those areas that is not up for debate,

    I think we need a new term for conservative snowflakes like yourself.

  64. alexnoaholdmate

    I think we need a new term for conservative snowflakes like yourself.

    Yeah, you made it clear in your posts to Sinc above that you’re a disgusting, immoral J e w hater.

    That being the case, I feel absolutely no compulsion to engage with scum like you.

    Thus, this will be the last time I ever address you or bother to read your Nazi drivel.

    Fuck off.

  65. Tel

    Socialist Alternative is the group to which Roz Ward (Safeschools) belongs. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a stunt by them, designed to give them plausible deniability, and intended to be tripped by the likes of us.

    I think the point is that the same foolish misuse of statistics has been regularly put about by the “Progressive” movement and other envy mongers whenever it suits them. Things about violence against women for example where they just make stuff up, or fluff up the numbers.

    The entire concept of insisting that everything must come out exactly equal and balanced is brain dead. Do male weight lifters tend to lift more than women? Yeah, they do. How about that, it’s not equal, men have a genuine advantage growing muscle. That’s just how it is… learn to deal with it.

    However, that is the result of a couple of quirks in history, not some kind of conspiracy.

    Six sample points are hardly statistically significant anyhow… at one stage media was all about control of the distribution channel, and was heavily slanted towards economy of scale and therefore buying out all the small operators. That situation has not lasted, the Internet is killing those legacy media and depriving them of their relevance. If you can prove that some vast majority of blog posters are Jεwish then I would say you have an interesting result there… but even if it was true, that does not demand redress, nor should anyone be “smashed” over it.

    Are we going to “smash” the privilege of Hindu doctors because they are over represented compared to the general population? How about Chinese accountants? Should we “smash” the black basketball players with African heritage because FAIRNESS, EQUALITY, PRIVILEGE ? What about all those Muslims in the security industry, I’d say they are over represented compared to the general population. What about gays in hairdressing? We must surely redress this imbalance because “privilege”, right?

    I mean, it just gets more and more stupid. The poster is a perfect mockery of these socialist nutbags, and who knows, it might perhaps even be really from the SA, because it’s plausible when you think about how they operate.

  66. Andrew

    Should we “smash” the black basketball players with African heritage

    We should definitely be calling out black privilege.

    Also, we need to legislate that male underwear and swimwear models earn the same amount as Victoria Secret models because gender equlidee.

  67. Jessie

    My question, in no reference to the pasted posters, is why some Indigenous identify with the J e ws?

    Noel Pearson (German Lutheran/Aboriginal heritage) is quoted twice in The Australian many years back on this and more recently Warren Mundine (?Irish/Aboriginal heritage) writing on the Indigenous Chamber of Commerce site Yaabubiin. Including his statement on ABC Q&A that he has the genealogical histories maped of all NSW Indigenous.

    I have wondered for many years on what parallels they make their distinction with J e w ish people.
    And that no-one has questioned this.
    ?Genocide?
    ?Land
    ?18C
    More recently the very publicised and funded work towards separate nationhood, parliamentary advisory council, customary lore, seemingly economic development productive ideas and funding on lands/sea due to unproductivity, and title over sea, water sheds and water sources has confounded my question more.

    And more so with this tangent of ‘blaming the Greens’ for the lack of Indigenous progress. aka Adani.

    Anyhow commentator Phil in the Yaabubin link above stated some sense.
    Chatting with my Catholic friends they state in response:
    we think he has got quite a bit wrong too. In particular, he is wrong about the Bible – it’s historical accuracy is quite amazing. There is a lot of literature on this topic …
    Phil is obviously not a believer in the Judeo-Christian God.
    We are. And the Bible says God gave the land of Israel to the Jewish people. It is remarkable how they first got Israel and how they have won it back in modern times after 2,000 years.
    The so-called Aboriginal “connection to the land” is quite different. Rather than Australia being given to the Aborigines by God, the Aboriginal “connection to the land”, from a Christian point of view, is a matter of superstition and occult practice, if it exists at all in any level of reality. And remember, in traditional Aboriginal religion, it was a connection to ancestral spirits rather than the land per se. In contemporary “New Age”, Aboriginality there is a purported “connection” to the land. But it is a white European invention, inserted into contemporary Aboriginal spirituality………….

  68. However, that is the result of a couple of quirks in history, not some kind of conspiracy.

    Tel, as the author of that line I have no fvcking idea where your vehement attack is coming from. I’m not suggesting “smashing” anybody. Please note the use of the word “history”. I’m talking about J&wish migration to the USA over a hundred years ago, not the 21st century advent of blogging.

    The quirks of history I was referring to, was first of the rejection by the Eastern Establishment of the wares of J&ewish artisans, which ultimately led to the creation of the “Rag Trade” and the concept of the department store. The second quirk was the subsequent rejection of new-found J&wish money in the traditional areas of railways, mining, timber and manufacturing.

    The third quirk was the advent of moving pictures without sound. If sound had been available from Day One, things would have been very different, the first movies would have been reproductions of famous operas and plays, like Shakespeare. Establishment money would have flocked to finance them. But there was no sound, so moving pictures became an extension of vaudeville, which as far as the Establishment was concerned, was one step away from prostitution and crime.

    So on the one hand there were investors with new-found money from the rag trade and associated ventures, locked out of traditional areas of investment, and on the other a new, fledgling, potentially highly profitable industry, desperately seeking investors. The two met and became as one, and J&wish money interests dominated the entertainment industry for the better part of a century. In retrospect, it’s hard to imagine how it could have turned out otherwise, under the circumstances.

    No conspiracy, no internet, no Hindu doctors, no Chinese accountants.
    Just some quirks in history.

    I mean, it just gets more and more stupid.
    The poster is a perfect mockery of these socialist nutbags

    I’ll keep that in mind, next time I’m looking for an intelligent comment.

  69. Tel

    Tel, as the author of that line I have no fvcking idea where your vehement attack is coming from. I’m not suggesting “smashing” anybody.

    The original poster finishes with “#SMASHJεWISHPRIVILEGE” which is what I was referring to.

  70. Jimf

    If only other ethnic groups could be so successful and contributory to our society as our successful Jewish community.
    [Slight edit. Sinc]

  71. Yohan

    There are logical reasons why the Jews dominate media, banking and other fields.

    They have a much higher verbal IQ than other races. This means they will be vastly over-represented in professions such as law, finance, business and bureaucracy.

    They also practice an extreme form of racial nepotism underpinned by their blood religion, only their own kind is permitted to be promoted or partnered with where possible. They will band together to monopolize industries and force out competitors on purely an ethnic basis.

    So a thousand years of this evolution and we end up in the situation we are today. But its debatable whether the high verbal IQ of Jews is intrinsic, or an evolutionary result of being in those professions. For example, one theory as to why Jews ended up as bankers, merchants and financiers during the European middle ages was all other professions were excluded to them by discrimination, thus they could only do these ‘lowly’ tasks.

    Also the lending of money, ursury, was banned by the Churches, and Jews also banned ursury to one another, but not from the Jew to the goyim. So they were the only ethnic group that could legitimately do money lending and not be breaking religious taboo, and that’s why they ended up as banking dynastic families.

  72. GerardO

    The retardation levels of the people who comment at this site are off the charts.

  73. Phil

    #jewsworkhardandvalueeducation so sod off swampies

  74. Phil

    Several of the richest people and families in Australia are J00ish, and it is true that they wield extraordinary influence.

    Whether that’s a good or bad thing is up for debate, but it discussion of this fact must not be verboten.

    I don’t mind discussing it but I don’t want to sound like I’m bragging.

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