Some Gough Whitlam stories

Not much to laugh about these days. However the other night I dined with some new Chinese friends including a very impressive English lady who is the Director of a new cultural studies centre in the Western Sydney Uni at Parramatta.
The conversation drifted to the importance of good advice when travelling in foreign lands with very different cultures.
She said when Jim Cairns was in China his advisor told him to maintain face by demanding the biggest possible car and spending a lot of money to impress people.
That prompted me to ask if she ever met Gough Whitlam.
She travelled several times in China with the Whitlams. I suggested that he would have been very interested in everything historical and she mentioned a trip to the Summer Palace in Beijing. That was the one the allies burned after the Boxer rebellion one of he opium wars and it would have been in ruins.
She said it was in ruins (it has been rebuilt lately). She said Gough looked around and said in his big deep breathless Gough voice.
“I luuurrrrvve ruins!”
She also travelled in China with Malcolm and Tammie Fraser. Tammie was a likeable person and they become very friendly.
The lady was regularly invited to receptions in the Chinese embassy in Canberra and the Whitlams and the Frasers were usually there.
Tammie Fraser was short-sighted and wore glasses at home but did without them when she went out. At one reception as the night wore on she decided it was time to leave so she short-sightedly looked around for a tall man take her home.
She came up behind Gough and patted him on the back and said “Dear, I think it is time to go home”.
Gough did not miss a beat. In the special deep voice he replied.
“Just wait while I tell Margaret”.
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23 Responses to Some Gough Whitlam stories

  1. Habib

    Anyone who enjoys the company of politicians needs confinement and treatment.

  2. Zyconoclast

    So, did Tammy go home with Gough?

  3. Chris

    So, did Tammy go home with Gough?

    One leftist is probably much like another.

  4. dopey

    Our biggest mistake was throwing out Whitlam. He could have destroyed this country years ago, at a much lower cost.

  5. mh

    Not much to laugh about these days.

    Not sure if ‘Gough Whitlam stories’ is going to help.

  6. mareeS

    Not sure how many people managed to get one over Gough, but a friend of ours has owned the NSW number plate EGW111 since 1970s and refused all offers from the other EGW to buy it. Vanity plates have their uses.

  7. Chris

    Tammy’s best line: ” lower than a snake’s duodenum.”

    Gough’s best line:”I remember!”

  8. Suburban Boy

    The burning of the Old Summer Palace was at the end of the Second Opium War, in 1860, not the Boxer Rebellion. The burning was ordered by Lord Elgin as reprisal for the torture and murder of a score of British and Indian prisoners.

    As related by George MacDonald Fraser, Elgin was faced with the need to convey to the Chinese people the abhorrence Elgin felt over the sickening crimes committed at the hands of the Emperor. Rather than slaughter people – something the Chinese might have regarded as par for the course in losing a war – he destroyed something of theirs that was precious and held great symbolic value.

  9. Suburban Boy

    Chris, the problem with “Gough’s best line” is that he never actually spoke it, at least in the circumstances he repeatedly claimed.

  10. classical_hero

    My mother never had a good word to say about Whitlam, which is to say how poorly she thought of him.

  11. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My mother never had a good word to say about Whitlam, which is to say how poorly she thought of him.

    I’m only too pleased to say I despised the egoistical great windbag, and his whole sorry collection of shining examples of “the politics of envy.”

  12. Chris

    Chris, the problem with “Gough’s best line” is that he never actually spoke it, at least in the circumstances he repeatedly claimed.

    Nice, thanks for the update. So its a ‘darn wish I thought of that at the time’ line he claimed credit for even though it was made up later.
    What a swine.

  13. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    As related by George MacDonald Fraser, Elgin was faced with the need to convey to the Chinese people the abhorrence Elgin felt over the sickening crimes committed at the hands of the Emperor.

    Specifically, the torture and murder, of a group of envoys sent ahead to negotiate the surrender of the Chinese.

  14. DM OF WA

    The only thing that caught my attention in this drivel was that these people think that we need an 80 year old retired ex-pat pommy lady to be “Director of a new cultural studies centre in the Western Sydney Uni”. Talk about nepotism?

  15. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Is whitlam dead yet?

  16. Once hate speech becomes so pervasive in the MSM, something like this becomes inevitable.

    Pointman

  17. Up The Workers!

    At least Halal Mal’s munificent offsider, the Performing Stick Insect, has sufficient taste and decorum to never leave home without her Frequent-Flying boyfriend, David Pants-On.

    Far less embarrassing than the cringeworthy overseas exploits of Tamie Frasers’ former Left-Wing travelling partner.

  18. Dr Fred Lenin

    I remeber going to the pub after the GG sacked him ,there was a lot of happy layghing and joking by the workers about his sacking he should have been there ,it would have destroyed his ego,lifelong alp voters were looking forward to voting against him ,he was despised by the working men . The onlu unhappy people were some school teachers who kept quiet so as not to let the workers hear them moan .

  19. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Is whitlam dead yet?

    I do remember a State funeral, so I presume he was dead at the time…

  20. Exit Stage Right

    Rafe, My memories of the Gough years give me no reason to laugh whatsoever, can’t even crack a faint smile. The man was an out and out Communist prick, the only redeeming feature for the cretin was a rather stately sounding voice.
    He is still revered by the filth in their ALP.
    Australia is well on the way to Whitlamistan!

  21. Yohan

    Everyone is going to hate on Rafe’s amusing and light hearted stories about Gough.

    So my spoiling attempt is; remember when Saigon fell, and all those South Vietnamese wanted to get out, but Gough and the Labor party did not want a bar of it, cos, you know, they were right wingers and anti-communist?

    Those [email protected] Vietnamese Balts, as he called them and feared they would become. Because the european Balts were a pernicious Liberal voting block at the time, having actually experienced communism first hand, unlike Gough himself.

  22. Rafe Champion

    Knocking Gough is fine, there is plenty more to be said along those lines, like a reference to his grandchildren, the third generation of unemployed who throw rocks at paramedics.
    However you can credit him with a sense of humour and there is no call for the mean-spirited and uninformed abuse of the story-teller by DM of WA. It was obvious from her conversation and from other information about her career that she is an excellent pick for the position and I don’t see how nepotism is involved.

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