Open Forum: June 17, 2017

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  1. .

    Oh god. We can’t win, can we?

    Andorra.

  2. Roger

    I would certainly hope so Roger, but I don’t know for sure and will most likely never know.
    I know for a fact they are dead on Earth though.

    Perhaps you are not as far from the kingdom of God as you imagine, Stimpson.

    More grist for the mill: “Faith is the assurance of things hoped for.” Hebrews 11:11.

  3. srr

    Oh fuck off!

    Perhaps my original comments were hyperbolic but while I admire Peterson he is nowhere near sainthood just yet.

    You were all, ‘I’ve followed Peterson, Robinson [anyone making a positive difference I share with cats] longer than you [a lie, but that’s SOP for you], you’re not special! I AM!

    But it’s Chesterton I’ve referred to as saintly, and not just because there are Catholics working towards having him being recognised as such, but because anyone seeking The Holy Spirit, couldn’t help but recognise the saintliness about him from the first time they read him.

    Then something in a Peterson video triggers you and you cowardly attack Peterson as a way of attacking me.

    You keep dropping random little troll turds about obscure verbals you’ve verballed and lies you’ve lied, as if somehow by continuing to dribble shit through the threads, others will believe you’re ‘Winning!’.

    You are all over the shop.

    You are broken.

    You are blinded by bloody hate for an anonymous name on an anonymous blog and you are terrified.

    Now please piss off and find some actual Anti-Christian here to flick your nasty little gallstones at.

    You are no fun. You are pathetic.

  4. A Lurker

    Just read a report from the so-called The Independent newspaper about the incident in London.

    What I found interesting was this paragraph (I’ve xxxx’ed out the real name)

    As unconfirmed reports swirled, former EDL leader Tommy Robinson, real name xxxxxxx, was condemned for accusing the mosque of past links with extremists.

    Does anyone else see the publication of Tommy’s real name as a green light by the newspaper for someone to track down and attack him.

    p.s. I’m not supplying a direct link, if you are that interested, look it up online.

  5. srr

    Tommy Robinson 🇬🇧‏Verified account @TRobinsonNewEra 3m3 minutes ago

    On tonight’s attack

    https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/876621401255538688

  6. notafan

    According to the Bible, Jesus is our intercessor,along with the Holy Spirit. We need no other help with getting to God.

    So you don’t pray for anyone else, or ask anyone else to pray for you? Roger explained the Church Triumphant pretty well.


    Even Jesus communicated with the dead, and yes the bible tells us so.

  7. Ubique

    Muslim “terrorists” are always shot at the scene, why was this white terrorist given the privilege of being arrested?

    Because the cops knew the courts wouldn’t hesitate to convict him.

  8. notafan

    Then something in a Peterson video triggers you

    How is that possible if I didn’t watch them?

    You are once again deliberately misconstruing, I have made no criticism of Peterson, only your slobbering uncritical obsessive adulation.

    Your Christianity is an inch wide and an inch deep and I note you make no attempt to clarify your dead people worship comments.

    I”ll call out the faux and the bigots, and guess what, you can’t stop me.

    Any updates on the Terrorist of Tarneit, I keep checking to see if your ‘deep insight’ is correct but no luck.

  9. Stimpson J. Cat

    Biblical texts like Deut. 18:10-11 and Isaiah 19:3—each of which condemns necromancy—are employed to say “communication with the dead” is condemned absolutely.

    Explain Lazarus.

  10. notafan

    Biblical texts like Deut. 18:10-11 and Isaiah 19:3—each of which condemns necromancy—are employed to say “communication with the dead” is condemned absolutely.

    Explain Lazarus.

    Stimpy you need to direct that question to Jame White because the Catholic Answers column goes on to refute that argument.

    you can contact him here

  11. srr

    A Lurker
    #2416484, posted on June 19, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    Just read a report from the so-called The Independent newspaper about the incident in London.

    What I found interesting was this paragraph (I’ve xxxx’ed out the real name)

    As unconfirmed reports swirled, former EDL leader Tommy Robinson, real name xxxxxxx, was condemned for accusing the mosque of past links with extremists.

    Does anyone else see the publication of Tommy’s real name as a green light by the newspaper for someone to track down and attack him.

    p.s. I’m not supplying a direct link, if you are that interested, look it up online.

    Lurker, the BBC outed Tommy’s real name and all his security aliases years ago, and other monsters keep doing it, despite the fact that he shouldn’t have had to explain to anyone that he didn’t use his real name for the sake of his wife and young children.

    One of those monsters is none other than one of the cat’s beloved, who quite proudly outed him here at the cat.

    I believe it was the same cat who jumped on their unholy high horse to defend Hillary Clinton and declare that she did not rant at her own people that they, ‘would all hang from nooses’, if Trump became POTUS.

  12. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpy you need to direct that question to Jame White because the Catholic Answers column goes on to refute that argument.

    No need.
    Lazarus was a terrible mistake by Jesus in my opinion.
    Raising someone from the dead without their permission?
    Thankfully it’s only in John which was written last.
    Which probably says it all really.

  13. notafan

    One of those monsters is none other than one of the cat’s beloved, who quite proudly outed him here at the cat.

    What a pack of lies, there was no ‘proud outing’ on the cat. it is common knowledge and included in the articles that referred to his conviction on contempt of court charges , which you also linked, you moron.

  14. notafan

    I believe it was the same cat who jumped on their unholy high horse to defend Hillary Clinton and declare that she did not rant at her own people that they, ‘would all hang from nooses’, if Trump became POTUS.

    Another lie

    I simply pointed out that that particular allegation was most likley fakenews and opined that an American would not use the expression ‘hang from nooses’ but ‘get the chair’ or ‘get the needle’.

  15. Mother Lode

    Is there any chance that srr could just post a link

    Short answer…No.

    srr is a little like Echo, in Greek mythology.

    Echo was a contract killER for the Clinton CRIME hamILY-SYNdicate who ate enormous amounts of PIZZA a beautiful woodland nymph who provoked Hera’s ire when, while Zeus was doing the nasty with another nymph, by distracted Hera by engaging her in conversation.

    In her rage Hera lay a curse on Echo such that she could only repeat the last few words said to her.

    Later, after falling in love with Trump Narcissus, and then being rudely spurned by him, she wasted away until only her voice remained.

    Our srr only repeats what others say: Conservative Tree House, Mike Summanabitch etc.

    The internet is her natural medium too – no one can see that she is but a disembodied voice.

  16. Roger

    Raising someone from the dead without their permission?

    His sisters were interceding on his behalf.

    🙂

    Thankfully it’s only in John which was written last. Which probably says it all really.

    ?

    “All scripture is inspired by God…”

    Besides which, there is the raising of the widow of Nain’s son and Jairus’s daughter in the synoptics.

    But these are more than miracles, they are Christological statements. Lazarus, the widow’s son and Jarius’s daughter would each die again, but Jesus revealed his identity by these miracles and all who believed in him would live eternally.

    Naturally talk of raising the dead presents a problem to the modern mind, even though we have the power through medical science to do it ourselves and some people put their trust in cryogenics. But once one has the first article of the creedal faith down – ” I believe in God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth…” – the power and authority of the subject of the second article – the Redeemer – becomes less problematic for faith.

    (Sorry, not supposed to use “problematic”.)

  17. Roger

    even though we have the power through medical science to do it ourselves

    Bringing back flat liners, I mean.

  18. Stimpson J. Cat

    His sisters were interceding on his behalf.

    He specifically asked them to be raised from the dead?
    “Lazarus come forth” is a command.
    No choice involved.
    Unless you think a dead man is strong enough to resist the power of a God.
    In which case we would not be having this conversation.

    “All scripture is inspired by God…”

    Never trust a film that begins with the words “Inspired by a true story. “.

  19. Entropy

    Roger
    #2416557, posted on June 19, 2017 at 1:06 pm
    even though we have the power through medical science to do it ourselves

    Bringing back flat liners, I mean.

    I think they are about to release a remake of that movie.

  20. Roger

    He specifically asked them to be raised from the dead?

    Don’t be such a wooden interpreter, Stimps.

    The back story is that he suffered an untimely death and therefore would be happy to be back.

  21. srr

    What preceded the van attack –

    Media And Politicians Silence About International Quds Day
    Is Both Dangerous And Hypocritical

    Simon Harris

  22. Chris

    At the moment of Christ’s death on the cross, the sun was darkened, the curtain of the Temple was torn in two, and the dead came out of their tombs and went into the city and appeared to many.

    I find that problematic.

    I accept Christ’s death and resurrection and my salvation from His sacrifice on my behalf.

    But I think God doesn’t half-resurrect people. If they were raised, they should have had continuing lives. If they were dead, but came out of their tombs to be seen, more problems with independent witnesses very likely tob e found – but they are not found even in the other gospels. SO I conclude that this is not literally true but metaphor or illustration of God’s power and the gravity ad triumph of Christ’s death. Or something.

  23. srr

    btw, I have an excellent record at drawing out the savoury topped flatbread scum … just saying 😉

  24. Chris

    srr I love a nice Pepperoni or Seafood savoury topped flatbread myself.

    But fashion is smashed avocado toast, so what are we to do?

  25. Spider

    Say what you like about Putin but the impression that has come across in the Oliver Stone interviews is of someone who is decisive which is totally at odds with the way that most Australian pollies operate. He might be evil but he comes across as being very straight forward.

  26. Lysander

    Anything wrong with creating a new category of primary and secondary school called For-Profit School? (Could be public, private or non-government)

  27. Entropy

    Profit is bad, Lysander.

  28. Lysander

    But prophet is good 😛

  29. Lysander

    I already spend my hard earned cash on sending our kids to a non-government school. On average, each child is funded to the tune of about $12K p.a. each (a good chunk from us personally); then there are comparable public schools nearby that fund about $18K PER STUDENT with only voluntary fees from parents! Their class sizes are generally smaller and they receive worse grades, their teachers are on larger salaries and their discretionary budgets are larger (i.e. we pay out of our pockets for every excursion, camp etc…) but Birmo says Catholic schools are the problem ffs!

  30. stackja

    MFB bureaucrat faked sons’ CVs, hired them in plum taxpayer-funded jobs
    Matt Johnston, Herald Sun
    28 minutes ago
    Subscriber only
    A SENIOR bureaucrat at the Metropolitan Fire Brigade faked her two sons’ resumes after they changed their names to give them plum positions that cost taxpayers up to $400,000.

    The stunning manipulation of public positions and contracts by former MFB chief information officer Mary Powderly-Hughes was outlined in a report by ombudsman Deborah Glass and described as “deception where the family nest was feathered, plain and simple”.

    An investigation by Ms Glass shows that Ms Powderly-Hughes hired her son David Hewson and gave him pay increases without ever declaring they were related.

    The report says that including his initial contract, which began on July 9, 2014, “the total cost to the MFB for Mr Hewson was $266,060.88 for less than two years of work”.

    “After giving him a payrise and moving him into a permanent role, she then hired her second son, also falsifying his CV and ‘interviewing’ him at her home after he, too, had changed

    his name to conceal the relationship,” Ms Glass says.

    The second son, Barry Robinson, told investigators that as well as helping him “develop” his CV, his mother “trained him in the computer programs that were integral to the role”.

    Mrs Powderly-Hughes and her sons resigned or had their employment terminated around the time of their ombudsman interviews last year.

    “Some cases I have investigated over the years seem so unlikely you could not make them up. Except, as in this case, they did,” Ms Glass said.

    The revelations were brought to light after whistleblowers approached the Independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission, and the investigation was subsequently referred to Ms Glass.

    Ms Glass said she tabled a report into the case as a reminder of the importance of people reporting something suspicious in their workplace.

    She also recommended the MFB audit Mrs Powderly-Hughes’ “involvement in procurement processes with a view to identifying any irregularities or impropriety”.

    After seeing a draft copy of the ombudsman’s report, the MFB CEO Jim Higgins told Ms Glass “of his intention to refer the conduct identified in this report to Victoria Police”.

    The Herald Sun has approached the MFB for further comment.

  31. Arky

    I take it no deaths from white van man racist incident?

  32. notafan

    Also

    The driver of the van, a man aged 48, was detained by members of public and was arrested.

    He has been taken to hospital as a precaution, and will be taken into custody once discharged. He will also be subject of a mental health assessment, the police said.

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