Stop spending other people’s money

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  1. Rabz

    Stop spending other people’s money

    Speechified passionately to an empty chamber.

  2. Habib

    Didn’t he just give the nod to Money Gonski Mk 11?

  3. OldOzzie

    Habib No he and Cory Bernardi voted against Gonski 2

  4. Peter

    “Inequality in poverty is not something we aspire to”.

    But apparently we do aspire to this. Of course Labor aspires to this because it is part and parcel of the Leftist mantra that it is better to punish “rich” people than it is to benefit all. Hence the object of leftist tax policy is not to raise everyone up – it is to tear everyone down to the same level. i.e. poverty for all – as Churchill put it, “equality in misery”.

    And after all as it has often been said the point of socialism is not to share what you have with everyone else – it is rather to force everyone to share what they have with you. Socialists are not Robin Hoods they are rather robbing hoods, thugs – thieves in off the rack suits and bad polyester ties robbing anyone they think is too weak to fight back (and in politics, no one is so weak as voter who does not vote for you anyway) to buy influence, power and votes from others.

    Of course the people I really blame at present are the Liberals who are now officially “the other socialist party” . They should at least know better but evidently they do not. I do believe their recent behaviour under Turnbull is the death knell of the Liberal party which is doomed to now wither on the vine as they lose voters. They will become an historical irrelevancy devoid of principles and soon to be devoid of power. Sadly this can only mean government will go to the socialists as real conservatives will not be able to attract sufficient support from even the large number of disaffected Liberal voters to make much difference.

    And it has to be said, people like Senator Leyonhjelm who actually do have principles and brains are a mere statistical anomaly in Australian politics – a rounding error. Unlike rounding errors in Labor budgets which run into millions people like Leyonhjelm are a rarity.

  5. .

    The good thing is, some of the Lib Dems Au videos get over 200,000 views.

    That is pretty good. Better than teaching your dog ballet (teaching Kim Carr or Sarah Hanson Young about liberty).

  6. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Didn’t he just give the nod to Money Gonski Mk 11?

    Nope. That rumour was spread by the unhinged that haunt Catallaxy.

    He and Bernardi were brilliant in the Senate last night. They tried to pass an amendment that would not allow this Parliament to bind future parliaments to fiscal insanity.

    Only two to support it.

  7. closeapproximation

    Speechified passionately to an empty chamber.

    Yes, it is depressing that this seems to be the case always for DL.

  8. Tom

    Name me another Australian senator who believes in reversing the explosion in the size of government.

    Cory Bernardi.

    Two MPs out of 76. The rest are either socialists or communists.

  9. Habib

    Good. So there’s 2 in the entire parliament who aren’t craven idiots. FFS, I know there’s a lot of dickheads out there, but do we really get the politicians we deserve?

  10. Haidee

    Applause for David L.
    And of course Cory Bernardi

  11. Leo G

    I assume Senator Leyonhjelm meant to say “Equality in poverty is not something we aspire to”.
    Inequality in poverty is just the likely otherwise outcome.

  12. Up The Workers!

    The Parliamentary Speaker and his Deputy are supposed to be the most honest and fair-minded people in Parliament.

    In Premier Setka’s Victoriastan, the A.L.P. misgovernment searched its rank and vile members low, and even lower until they identified the two least dishonest members of Caucus they could find, and they appointed “Terrible Telmo, the Till-Tickling Tea-Leaf from Tarneit” as Speaker, and as his Deputy, they appointed “Dodgy Don Nardella, the Munificent Member for Melton (and Melbourne…and St. Kilda…and Frankston…and Ballarat…and the Ocean Grove Caravan Park-No Permanent Residents Allowed!”).

    Both of these “Honourable Members” – the very best that the A.L.P. could find – scammed taxpayers by claiming “Living away from Home Allowances” and “Travelling Allowances” that they were not entitled to.

    Neither of them “aspired to poverty”, and both kept a commendably close watch over the taxpayers’ funds involved, as they only ever spent it on themselves.

    A.L.P. – Accelerated Larceny Program!

  13. val majkus

    from the Oz today

    UPDATE: Liberal frontbenchers Simon Birmingham and Christopher Pyne have backed the process that delivered politicians a minimum $4000 pay rise from next week, with Senator Birmingham insisting their salaries were kept “well and truly in check”.

    Australian politicians have been handed a two per cent pay rise from next Saturday on top of their current $199,040 base salary.

    On top of that, they will get a tax cut as the 2 per cent budget repair levy is also due to be removed on July 1.

    In justifying the decision the tribunal said it had received submissions calling for salaries more in line with the private sector.

    “Over the past year there has been a notable increase in submissions to the Tribunal seeking higher remuneration for offices and individual office holders based at least in part on private sector remuneration,” the statement said.

    Mr Pyne said politicians have nothing to do with determining salaries and they’re not in it for the money.

    “We do it because it is a wonderful way of helping the society in which we live,” he told the Nine Network

    Senator Birmingham said the pay rise came after the minimum wage was bumped up.

    “It is an independent process and it was a two per cent pay rise this year, after a pay-freeze that the independent process determined last year. And of course just recently, the minimum pay rise for minimum wage was handed down at 3.3 per cent,” he told Channel Seven.

    While he acknowledged parliamentarians were well remunerated Senator Birmingham said they were not there for the money.

    “I think you can see the processes working to keep politicians’ salaries well and truly in check, there was a freeze, there’s a lower than the minimum wage as people would think it should be,” Senator Birmingham said.

    PM gets payrise

    Federal politicians, judges and top public servants will enjoy pay rises of up to $12,000 a year from next week, pushing backbench MPs’ base pay above $200,000 for the first time.

    At a time of record low wage growth and rising government debt, the Remuneration Tribunal awarded a 2 per cent pay rise to all senior public office holders yesterday, following another 2 per cent pay rise in January last year.

    The latest rise was necessary “to attract and retain” people of “calibre”, the tribunal said, pointing out that minimum wage workers would receive a 3.3 per cent pay rise ($22.20 a week) from next month and public sector wages had increased 2.4 per cent over the year to March.

    The boost means backbenchers’ pay, excluding allowances, will rise by just under $4000 to $203,020.

    The Prime Minister will get a $10,350 pay rise to $527,854; the High Court chief justice’s base pay will rise $11,461 to $584,511.

    “There has been a notable ­increase in submissions to the tribunal seeking higher remun­eration for offices and individual office holders based at least in part on private sector remuneration,” the tribunal said.

    It suggested the era of “economic restraint” that saw pay rise deferrals in 2014 and 2015 was over.

    Falling private sector wage growth, which earlier this week prompted Reserve Bank governor Philip Lowe to invite workers to ask for a rise, rose 1.9 per cent over the year to March.

    The Human Rights Commission president’s pay will rise to $423,650.

    Some MPs questioned the pay rise last night. Liberal Democrats senator David Leyonhjelm said: “I think we are already very well paid and don’t need a pay increase at the moment. Given the state of the budget in particular, it’s ill-timed.”

    Greens leader Richard Di ­Natale said “people have had a gutful”. “At a time when income inequality is out of control and wages are going nowhere, politicians get a pay rise,” he said.

    Cabinet ministers, currently paid a base salary of $343,344, will get nearly $7000 extra and will now be paid $350,210 a year.

    Heads of the 18 government ­departments in Canberra, who earn up to $861,700 a year, will enjoy pay rises of between $9500 and $12,063, the latter going to the secretary of the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet.

    The tribunal said public office holders were making financial sacrifices. “Office holders serve for the public good (and) many of these office holders do not expect or require that monetary compensation be set at private sector levels,” the tribunal said.

    The pay increase will occur as the government’s 2 per cent budget repair levy on top-rate taxpayers end.

    “This represents an increase of 1.6 per cent per annum over the 18 months since the last general increase” effective from January 2016, the statement said, noting increases were not granted in 2014 and 2015.

    MPs also receive a non-taxable $276 allowance for every night of the 18 weeks a year they are in Canberra.

    “This decision is a slap in the face for the thousands of commonwealth public sector workers whose wages have been frozen for well over three years as they’ve been stuck fighting for their basic workplace rights and conditions,” said Community and Public Sector Union national secretary Nadine Flood.

    The 170,000 federal public servants have not had a general pay rise since the Coalition was elected in 2013 and have been locked in a battle over renewal of enterprise agreements.

    Staff at the Defence Department on Wednesday became the second major department to agree to an enterprise deal which will bring a 6 per cent increase over the next 18 months.

    Staff at the Australian Taxation Office and at the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet are voting on the pay deal today.

    “This decision will certainly give frontline public sector workers the impression that there’s one set of rules for them and quite another for those at the top,’’ Ms Flood said.

    Public Service Commissioner John Lloyd said Ms Flood’s comments were “misleading”.

    “The main reason for the delay in employees receiving a pay increase is the CPSU’s persistent campaign opposing salary increases that have been on offer for 3 years for most of the employees. The increases offered have been for an average 2% a year over a 3 year term,” he told The Australian.

    “The generous pay and conditions of public servants are not under threat.”

  14. RobK

    It’s a shame that DL even has to give such a speech, I’m glad he does.

  15. RobK

    I believe we should be equal before the law, (and presumably god), as for the rest, it doesn’t work.

  16. Dr Fred Lenin

    Any brainless idiot can wreck things even political cretins like the national gangreen laboral bludgers ,cando it , but it takes work and knowlege to build things ,how about an IQ and psychological test for aspiring politicians . That would clean out the ones there now , it would be hard to get a worst team of incompetants than the present gang . The dregs of the lawtrade ,really scraping the barrel bottom .

  17. Nicholas (Unlicensed Joker) Gray

    Over-legislation is one of the two major defects of Democratic governments (the other is a belief that all voters either are equal in all aspects, or should be made to be equal).
    Politicians usually win power by identifying a problem that they claim to be able to fix, and then increasing the scope of government when in office, so as to fix that problem (The swelling mandate problem). I don’t know if this problem can be fixed. So we may need to tolerate the new laws, and the bureaucrats who will enforce the new laws.

  18. Dr Faustus

    Christopher Pyne takes the piss:

    Mr Pyne said politicians have nothing to do with determining salaries and they’re not in it for the money.

    “We do it because it is a wonderful way of helping the society in which we live,” he told the Nine Network

    Yes, winking the brown eye at the punters, when you have invested $50 billion in a failed state to preserve your poxy $350,210++ seat, is a wonderful way to help society.

  19. OldOzzie

    Where TurdBull Coalition/Labor-Lite Liberals are sending Australia

    CSR says rising power costs could force manufacturing closures

    Building products supplier CSR expects a sharp jump in energy costs over the next year and has warned that Australian manufacturing businesses could face plant closures and job losses if the situation continues.

    “There will be challenges in the year ahead, particularly as all of our businesses are facing higher energy costs,” CSR’s chairman Jeremy Sutcliffe told shareholders at the company’s annual general meeting.

    “The increase in energy costs will be one that many businesses, including CSR, will find extremely hard to recover, notwithstanding efficiency gains and cost control.”

    The company (CSR) has estimated the total energy bill for its main building products business will rise by 17 per cent from a year ago, to exceed $100 million in the next 12 months.

    Its Viridian glass business will be particularly impacted as it faces strong import competition from exporting nations not facing similar energy cost imposts, he said.

    “Manufacturing businesses across Australia face the real prospect of plant closures and job losses in high energy intensive industries if this situation continues,” Mr Sutcliffe said.

  20. OldOzzie

    Comments from the above The Australian Article – CSR says rising power costs could force manufacturing closures

    No problem – surely $90/year bonus will fix the issue.

    Ask Finkel, or Turnbull, they know..

    – How can we have let this happen??? 24 million people – and we have let this happen.

    At least the Greens will be happy as we de-industrialise Australia!

    – Expensive and unreliable energy supplies equal job losses pure and simple and here is the proof. Scrap the Paris Agreement, scrap the RETs, remove all subsidies and taxes or else watch plenty of Australian workers lose their jobs. Up to you Mr Turnbull.

    – Here we see the fruit of ideological energy policy. We traded one of our few competitive advantages – reliable, relatively low-cost electricity – for nothing much at all.

    We will make no meaningful impact on the world’s CO2 levels, if that even matters.

    – Its either save jobs or save planet. Voters have to decide? Oh wait, there is no policy difference between Labor & Libs? Oh well, good bye jobs & good bye Australia.

    This is the start of the recession our dumb, fat and happy state and federal politician will have caused by increasing energy costs to save the planet, whilst our international competitors consume our coal and gas, enriching their own economies at our loss. Poor fellow, my country.

    – Looks like the Carbon tax is working just fine. Make electricity so dear no one can afford it. I do hope all those unionists soon to be on the scrap heap remember their campaign to stop carbon pollution and to demonise coal is responsible for their layoffs. Decarbonising Australia is suicide and still the lemmings in all parties keep voting for the vandals. When will the lack of wealth creation start to impact the parasitic public service and academia?

  21. Rafe Champion

    The next best thing to hair on your head David, a Mark and Spencer cap!

  22. Chris M

    This old codger is so boring, any good points he may have are lost in the droning – everyone has long since left or nodded off.

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