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Too late, mate.
TOO FUCKING LATE MATE
Snap.
If he is true to his word then he will be arresting many a journo.
And we must remember they are guilty until proven innocent.
Wait what, he can reject a police brief, but the police can issue a CAN and then lump him with a case he reckons is BS?
I suspect the AG has intervened behind the scenes.
I think we need to petition the pope to give Pell a hearing before extraditing him, which will serve as an inquiry into the Anti-Catholic bigotry behind these charges.
Turn the tables.
This is what the radical left have been seeking for years now. The ABC has had two stabs at the issue (to my knowledge) with some of the dodgiest ‘victims’ you’d ever wish to come across, coming out in support of their conspiracy theory. And now, collectively, one of the most left wing police forces in Australia has decided to act on a case that reeks of dingos’ droppings.
Of course George Pell has sought leave to fight the charges, but don’t expect the egg on face to be widely reported. It won’t, but we’ll all come away believing the bloke is as guilty as hell, regardless of the outcome.
Unfortunately the majority has not as yet been weaned off the appalling ABC.
I’m of the opinion all CArdinal Pell is guilty of is having a detached type of personality, and not enough understanding/empathy at that very early time when the dreadful abuse came to light.
However, that has translated for the media to judging him guilty of raping boys.
Poor fellow, how terrible this is for him, just really awful to have his own country’s media against him, urging people to hate him and believe he is a child rapist. But he has the Holy’s Father’s support.
Get Pell MSM now be silent?
The first one to take it seriously enough to address the problem and to seek to help victims. First one to thereby publicly admit to something shameful.
I think, Candy, you are confusing those confected chest beatings and widely circulated press releases (which always have the effect of putting the one denouncing beyond blame or suspicion), all the nostra culpa with real compassion.
When the Cardinal has engaged with victims, listened to them, sought to reassure them and seek to make what amends lie within his power, what part of this do you think would need to be made public?
And how many victims do you think want to be paraded about at all, much less as a prop for someone else’s moral posturing.
ROFL at the comments here. Everyone has their pet nonces it seems: Right-wingers have priests; regressive Leftists lurve da Muslims.
You all suck shit.
You don’t believe in the presumption of innocence, Gerard?
The ABC TV program 7.30 pruducers must have missed the announcement.
7.30 tonight described the child sexual charges as credible, reviewed the previous allegations against Pell and his previous responses, gave a commentary accompanying the police statement, played a “statement of relief” by a victim of sexual abuse, described the high significance of the event, and aired the views of activist and “child sexual abuse survivor” Peter Saunders including a statement that failure to charge Pell would have been an outrage.
A part of the statement of charges by Victoria Police was shown with the police spokesman saying Pell has a right to due process, but no mention by the spokesman of the right to presumption of innocence during that process.
All highly prejudicial.
Is the ABC again demonstrating it is out of control?
No doubt you are celebrating the fact that no leftoid website would allow you to spew anything but your tribal leftoid revenge porn.
Leftoids have such small brains.
And, being a fucktard, there’s no prospect you will ever grow up.
Sad.
What I don’t believe in is screaming ‘HANG THE PAEDOS!’ when it comes to persons you don’t know or don’t agree with, but claiming a conspiracy, witch-hunt etc. when it’s closer to home.
Candy:
Far from it, Candy. Although the drumbeat of lying propaganda from the left and their MSM has been endless on this matter.
The problem was that male homosexual rockspiders infiltrated the Church to prey on the vulnerable. OK, that’s what those revolting perverts do.
Funny how that point of view is never, ever mentioned by the left and their MSM, isn’t it?
Cardinal Pell was the man who found out about the abuse and who started investigations which uncovered and stopped it, setting up the Melbourne Initiative in 1996 to assist victims and clear out the homosexual child molesters who had infiltrated the Church.
His actions and behaviour all through this has been exemplary.
That’s why the low-life rockspider-enablers of the ABC and Victorian senior left-wing society hate him. Not only did he stop the perversions of their besties, he had the moral courage to smack them around for supporting such vileness.
They turned on him like a pack of hyenas over 20 years ago to punish him for opposing them.
Please bear in mind that the ABC in particular and the Gramscian left in general has as their aim the same points as NAMBLA does when it comes to sexualising children (I present the child-grooming perversion of the ‘safe schools project’ in Victoria under the marxist trannie Mr Ross Ward as evidence), that the destruction of the Church is No.1 on their list and has been for nearly a century, and that they are all after someone elses money. In this case, the Church’s.
As gerard Henderson reported, as early as the 1970s the ABC was inviting NAMBLA members to Australia and propagandising about lowering the age of consent to 6. Like most of the left, the ABC has always seethed with homosexuals, perverts and rockspiders.
No, it’s a complete set-up and always has been.
Tom
I spent several years in prison for nearly killing two people. You may want to think hard about who you get spiteful with online.
Hey, talk about projection!
First time I have seen a proud-and-out coprophile at the Cat.
Easy tiger.
Take a chill pill dude.
The Coprophile:
What, you bored them nearly to death?
Yeah no. It’s online and recorded as written evidence forever and if anything happens to Tom, myself etc, you’ll be staying there until you pop your clogs, fuckwit.
LOL bring it Tory losers
Welcome GerardO! We like to have dissent here, do you have some thoughtful comments to contribute?
Hahaha.
You obviously haven’t spent enough time being a loser.
Fuck off, numpty.
Dot, you really have to chuckle at how emotionally immature and clueless the violent far left are. Little Gerry just gave any police prosecutor the case – any case – where he/she/it commits an act of politically motivated violence.
Must be a sturmarbeitelung antifa brownshirt.
Rafe Champion
I think my comments on the hypocrisy of Pell supporters were abrasive, but not abusive.
————————————-
ROFL at these candy-ass momma’s boys getting the mods involved.
It’s okay Marc C, I was being helpful, not spiteful – I simply gave advice.
Marcus C, yes. It is a stitch up because he was close to Abbott 666 and an upholder of church doctrine. I think this is a disaster for the Luvvies (ABC, FauxFacts et al) as any halfway competent QC will shred the cred of the dupes and stooges the prosecution bring to the witness box. Then again, sez I, maybe the Catholic factions in Vicpol and the DPP have staged this as a way out – present a paper thin case and have their briefs fall apart in prosecuting the case. All that said, I think the persecution of Pell is an absolute outrage. and yet another reason why the ABC needs to be crushed and destroyed.
Perhaps their ABC didn’t get the memo from the Director of Oublic Prosecutions? Or maybe their ABC doesn’t think it is a “media outlet”.
My politics are idiosyncratic, fyi. I hate ANTIFA, who are Islamist showponies.
hahahahahaha!
I rest my case.
Nobody, absolutely nobody in this country except for those worthless socialist alliance idiots calls people ‘Tories’.
And to call you lot of libertarians conservatives – what a twit.
Socialist Alliance, SturmArbeitelung, same thing.
He’s SA alright. Probably still living with mum at 28 after his degree in marxist tajikistani revolutionary poetry in 1921 proved to be useless at getting him a job at the ABC.
Treasure the addition of Gerard O’Coprophile to these pages. Loons of the Left are always such a hug.
Pell is a conservative therefore an enemy of the ruling elite and their regressive agenda. Therefore he must be destroyed by whatever means, including trumped up charges based on decades old alleged events. The corrupt and politicised police and the corrupt and political justice department and the corrupt and politicised judiciary will see to it.
Dot, I agree.
I am being insulting towards the idiot to draw out info on what sort of a SA member he is.
He’s smelling like a Trot.
Being SA, he will be so dumb as to not be able to avoid replying even when you tell him what you are doing.
hahahahahahahaha!
Priceless!
Sir, you win the internet for tonight.
Nice try, Rafe but I don’t this gerardo has any thoughtful comments at all. Just bile. He’s a sheep and a stranger to critical thinking.
Jesus holy Christ, when are they going to give the bloke a decent hearing, this is a trial by media and bloody left wingers. Look at the accusers, would you have them in your house unfettered? Where the f**k is our society heading?
Bill Cosby, Clarence Thomas…
“Nearly”
You weak xunt.
No no Marcus, I was not being spiteful so GerardO, failed mafia hitman could not have been threatening me, by his own keyboard warrior definition.
From what I understand he’s a bus driver who lost his job after running off the road after too much cough medicine, and some poor sods went through the front window… He tries to win arguments on the internet by pretending he’s a regular Paul “Walnuts” Gaultieri.
Therefore, Pell is guilty. Impeccable logic.
Dot, I love that comment.
It gives our mighty SA member the glorious title of Comrade Gerard O’Coprophile, failed mafia hit-man and bus driver of the revolution.
It’s like a thread on The People’s Cube.
Here’s why I have great trouble believing the allegations:
1) Child rapists don’t normally call public investigations into child rape. It would be a frightfully odd thing to do.
2) Having become a public figure as a Cardinal, and then from a prominent position called the enquiry, astonishingly none of the many alleged victims stuck their hand up in 1996 and said “Hey hang on, what about this bloke?” They decided to keep completely mute about the whole thing while money was being handed out bigly, and then only 20 years later in 2015-16 suddenly up and remembered that it was this Pell fellow all along.
There’s no doubt that Cardinal Pell has powerful enemies, and they haven’t rested,
but they won’t succeed in destroying him.
As for the ‘detached personality’, it’s an appearance of remoteness, that’s all.
It would take a mighty effort to “pray for those who persecute you”. Cardinal Pell will manage that.
A persecution of the worst kind
and a tragedy
An online public murder threat. What an intellect he has.
hey ho GerardO.
Comes in here – within five minutes he’s throwing his weight around with some sort of two-tonne block on his shoulder about kiddy fiddling.
Whatsa matter? Did you become the soap-boy in gaol?
I spent several years in prison for nearly killing two people.
Two paying customers contracting HIV from your anus doesn’t make you a tough guy.
Candy
People are guilty for having a personality?
No, dopey. people in this country are guilty for not showing the expected and requisite emotion in public that they deem should be shown.
GerardO, grammatically speaking, when it comes to persons, you don’t know, do you? Your deictic confusion betrays your immaturity. How old are you?
Improve your communication skills. You say you don’t believe in screaming in one instance but in another, “closer to home”, you believe in claiming conspiracy etc. Not what you intended, was it?
Too incompetent to kill anyone and too stupid to avoid being found out and convicted. Internet death threats ain’t what they used to be….
I’m looking at it another way. There are probably commenters on the Cat, that could eat this moron, raw, and without salt, before breakfast.
“That is the end of the road for George Pell in the Vatican, regardless of the outcome — he will be pensioned off when the court case finishes,’’ a Vatican insider told The Australian.
Jacquelin Magnay
The Australian
10:13PM June 29, 2017
To read the article, Google “Vatican insiders are already preparing to pension off George Pell”.
A sad day, today.
Nicely said Mother Lode at 7.45.
Cardinal Pell is 76, already a year older than retirement for priests.
I hope he does get to retire. A stent in his heart and other health problems.
Good and faithful servant.
Yes – I would have thought so. A trial and appeals will take years and he’ll be out of the political loop at the Vatican. So one way or the other the lefties will have destroyed his chances of promotion.
I’ve been commenting here for two years, on and off.
Anytime, anywhere, dweebs.
There are no more promotions possible, unless Pope Francis were to die, and Cardinal Pell is not well enough to be pope.
I’m sure some might enjoy the power but I suspect most take on the burden of responsibility in the Church for other reasons.
Sinclair Davidson
#2427252, posted on June 29, 2017 at 10:40 pm
That is the end of the road for George Pell in the Vatican, regardless of the outcome
Yes – I would have thought so. A trial and appeals will take years and he’ll be out of the political loop at the Vatican. So one way or the other the lefties will have destroyed his chances of promotion.
Which will be a win for them.
Probably – but it doesn’t have to be.
Ensuring in the first instance that Pell gets a fair trial must be the first priority.
Of course you did.
Yep, online tough talk.
An open challenge on a forum which includes no end of people who’ve worn a khaki suit to work, including but not limited to, several former SASR, being called “dweebs”.
Easy to see how this rocket scientist may have managed to do time not for any gain (i.e. bank robbery) but a street offence – which ain’t worth doing time for.
You weren’t dux of your school were you. (Just a hunch – but feel free to call me “Nostradamus” for guessing that).
That’s a double Scotch and a new keyboard you owe me, Salvatore.
Wow, the mouse that pissed its pants.
This is just another example of the Left exploiting the institutions of society it now controls to neutralise its enemies. There is no presumption of innocence for enemies of the Left. Cardinal Pell and the Catholic Church lose even if the case is dismissed.
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
#2427231, posted on June 29, 2017 at 10:04 pm
I’m looking at it another way. There are probably commenters on the Cat, that could eat this moron, raw, and without salt, before breakfast.
No way, I discovered recently that salt is not the villein it was supposed to be, so I salt my salt.
I think Gerard O’Coprophile is the genuine item, a copper bottomed Troll. He succeeded in sabotaging the thread anyway.
Back to the thread, I am with Lee Lowe and Pete M.
Its a bit friggin late for the man who has been judged and punished already.
+1
At the expense of further derailing the thread let me just say that trolls can only derail threads if other threadsters lack discipline.
On the other hand many trolls add value to the extent that they force people to confront counter-argument.
What happened?
Give out a couple of doses of gastro by not washing your hands after going to the bog in the middle if your shift at Maccas?
no end of people who’ve worn a khaki suit to work,
Oh wow — the big, scary people from the big, scary ADF. Tell me when a real fighter turns up, not some roided-up layabout getting a huge paypacket for doing fuck-all.
Woolly bulls are in season, dick head. Get one up you.
Exactly how does this add value or fit into the realm of counter argument:
Well, yes but….
Sometimes the amount of meat one can gouge out of the original thread topic is limited. On the other hand, the potential to laugh at internet tough guys is infinite and irrestistible.
GerardO – #2427079, posted on June 29, 2017 at 8:09 pm
Tom
I spent several years in prison for nearly killing two people. You may want to think hard about who you get spiteful with online.
Lol, your a classic arsehole, Arsehole. Nearly killing two people eh ?? What; was that before you nearly found out that you were an arsehole with a bullshit address, or, did your brain just nearly fall out ??
You may want to think hard about who you get spiteful with online.
That’s a bit off, it implies a threat. But its so weird that one wonders what occupation he pursues, Traffic cop, electrician, crop dusting, economics lecturer. The HRC?
there was no counter argument.
The evidence of widespread abuse in various groups, muslims, ‘asians’ in the UK, the churches, boarding schools and the churches is well established.
The notion that Cardinal Pell has any real evidence against him is bull. Any numpty can see that.
GerardO is not one of those trolls.
*you’re
Postulant troll.
Even a novitiate would know that the purpose of trolling is to distract the thread from the topic by baiting commenters.
This chap highlights the central concern of the thread, by suggesting that by favouring due process and a fair trial for Pell, we are “nonces” supporting our favourite “nonce” ie a presumption of Pell’s guilt dressed in ad hom.
He is not just a moral imbecile.
bugger it, I’m with these blokes:
http://www.executedtoday.com/images/Sacred_Heart_Christ_statue_executed.jpg
What’s the record number of charges of contempt of court in one case? The way this has been told in the media so far I think there will be heaps of contempt charges
If the Reclaim Australia mob were smart, they’d arrange for someone to come out and say they were sexually abused in some mosque youth group and demand a Royal Commission into sexual abuse in mosques.
How is it that Cardinal Pell has to face criminal charges yet Bull Shitten is on the cusp of the PMship?
Pell appears to have acted properly in his handling of p e d o’s infiltrating the church, it will be difficult for the Vatican to throw him under the bus.
They clearly want members of the clergy to confront this sort of evil, so they can’t punish or sideline Pell for having done just that.
What is particularly galling in this is that the p e d o enabling media, particularly the ABC have been hunting Pell on this for an eternity. Has the ABC been hunting their gay adoption poster men p e d o’s?
If true, it gives the Humble Pope an excuse to sideline a stalwart Defender of the Faith without too much fuss. The Pope doesn’t seem to have a problem with rockspiders at times, and is known to keep some questionable company (abortionists, atheists, Lutherans) and is considered by some to be, shall we say, not as supportive of faithful Catholics as he should be.
He’s very Progressive, and has set aside Cardinal Burke, so why not Pell?
GeradO!
lol, you clearly have no idea how the world works, there is always, always someone bigger, stronger, smarter and meaner than you GeradO.
So do keep shooting that mouth off, at least this planet, eventually, will be rid of the DNA challenged dick stain you are.
Nothing says “Idiot”, like threats of violence on an anonymous blog.
Post your true name and address and invite any willing participants around for a straightner.
Wanker.
I look forward to the ‘Bong’ now being raked over the coals. He was there too…
The pope refused Cardinal Pell’s resignation last year when he turned 75, knowing full well this was hanging over Cardinal Pell’s head.
Nothing has really changed.
Article on Cardinal Pell from a while back
Paul Bongiorno to be a witness?
A small investment in a cookery book can avoid these unfortunate incidents.
“Media coverage must be fair”
In the case against Pell he’s kidding isn’t he?
“If true, it gives the Humble Pope an excuse to sideline a stalwart Defender of the Faith without too much fuss. The Pope doesn’t seem to have a problem with rockspiders at times, and is known to keep some questionable company (abortionists, atheists, Lutherans) and is considered by some to be, shall we say, not as supportive of faithful Catholics as he should be.”
Remember that the Pope is a Jesuit and they have a long and highly questionable reputation when it comes to kiddy fiddling and cover ups.
The Left does have success in neutralising its enemies. Its enemy the Church? no, “the gates of hell shall not prevail against it”. Cardinal Pell is the stand-out good and faithful servant. There are many others, though not the champion he is. If he is weak in body, he’ll be strong in spirit.
Wonder when the “show trial” will begin ? The anti catholics have already selected a Liberty Victoria Hulls appointed judge , a jury of CFME members who can be relied upon to give a right verdict, in exchange foe free beer and pot . Under our soviet rules the accused will be presumed guilty untill he is found guilty. Probably the socialist gangreenist =pope will plead for clemency from his Victorian comrades to appease the media . There is an unseemly bitchfight amongst the meadia comrades to see which one will be prosecutor . The destruction of the catholis enemies of u,n,communism and the caliphate proceeds well . As long as the Evil Fascist Elected dictator Trump keeps out of their cunning plan . ( He wont comrades ,this will be another stick to beat you with )
I thought the Jesuits had , in fact, far fewer problems with historical child abuse allegations.
There was a newspaper article about it a while back and there has only been one name at Xavier bandied about iirc.
The child abuse scandals have never been consistently a worldwide problem eithet.
God will protect him.
Notafan
#2427468, posted on June 30, 2017 at 9:19 am
It should be remembered that the terms of reference of the Royal Commission precluded any look at government institutions.
If you want to know where the real problem is, it’s always wise to check what the government isn’t allowing to be examined.
That’s probably true of yourself, Sinc, LQC, Spartacus, etc, but the comments section are very much NOT areas where dissent is tolerated, least of all the thoughtful kind.
In fact the level of triggering and the speed with which it occurs here when the majority position is even slightly questioned is not something that usually happens elsewhere online. The comment threads of the Cat are a unique thing on the internet.
Really Nilk, Lutherans?
“I thought the Jesuits had , in fact, far fewer problems with historical child abuse allegations.”
Want the facts on how the Jesuits operated? Ask around those who went to a Jesuit school. Start with me if you like and I’ll give you some history on what is was like to be a boarder in the 1950s. Not everyone who was assaulted in those days has come out screaming for justice, but the memories still remain.
Pell exonerated in 2002. Still reported as ‘fact’.
SnOwFlAkE status report: TRIGGERED
Goodness me trolling and flouncing even here. I am weary of the constant sniping at Pell from the State Media. I want justice done good and hard. Shine the cold light into the case and fright the roaches into the open to be dealt with, as to thier deserts. Especialy David Marr. No more fannying around. Time this got real. I am not familiar with reputable Media in Australia or ckose to this case. Would apreciate any tips as to where a fair and robust reportage can be found. THX in anticipation.
Gerrard
Would you be willing to fight in a medically sanctioned MMA match to raise funds for this blog and a charity of your choice. Maybe we can get you a non-dweeb in the ring for you.
How many socks?
This is where we need an independent Alt Media chappy of good character to sit in the Court rather than just reporters reporting on the miasma of thier own corrupted gasses. Any one lives in Melbourne fancy chucking together a few sangers and jumping on the tram for a day out?
Sorry, dot, couldn’t resist. 😀
Not fair but certainly robust is the collaboration of Fairfax, the New York Times, and La Repubblica.
The NYT is using journalists Damien Cave, Jacqueline Williams and Michelle Innis to lead an expansion into Australia, and the Pell controversy is just the vehicle to support it. Former Fairfax Canberra office Williams started the Pell campaign with her story on Wednesday.
Cave is to open the new Sydney bureau and lead the Australian team. He has experience in blog management, which will be important in the Pell case, as it allows Australian commenters to publish comments on the Pell case on the American edition and avoid sub judice “complications”.
The La Repubblica (aka Repugnica) with its socialist-communist appeal will play for the Italian language fellow travellers in Australia, Italy and the Americas.
Pell has absolutely no chance of facing the charges in an environment of presumed innocence.
In mainstream media? Don’t make me laugh. You won’t find it on this planet.